hoi4-general

[fathom shard]

stealing all the warscore

[night stone]

I got a free conscription law up tier from an event, my last UK game I tried, and I was hoping it would pop by now.

[mystic nest]

22 tank div deathstack is insane

[faint fiber]

hey! no touchy germany, that belongs to the US

[dusky burrow]

japan is really easy to invade in this game since they send all of their troops abroad

[dusky burrow]

germany belongs to the US (repossessed for turning fascist)

[mystic nest]

rip i barely play the uk so i dont know how their conscrption restrictions work

[faint fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/tfs-i-am-the-hype-vegeta-dragon-ball-z-gif-17891515

[mystic nest]

invading the us from northern canada without having already owned canada is a straight up humiliation ritual

its so bad

[fathom shard]

yummy

[mystic nest]

i dont know why i keep going back to it and thinking it might work this time

[soft escarp]

Man in the high castle

[fathom shard]

next is italy

because they also stole warscore

and i don't tolerate that

japan still exists in the usa because i didn't have enough warscore

this is cursed

[soft escarp]

Endsieg clutched🥹

[mystic nest]

they shouldnt allow collapsed empires to stay on non core territory

[soft escarp]

3.50 AM btw

[mystic nest]

it just doesnt make sense

the japanese empire would not keep existing in seattle of all places

[soft escarp]

MODERATORS

!!!

POLITICALL SIGN!!!

[fathom shard]

yo how do you even see this bro 😭

[lethal slate]

who down for road to 56?

[soft escarp]

Not me.

just played endsieg for like 3 hours

that doesnt make sense

How cant you see that

[soft escarp]

Who can i tag bro

@Paradox Ceo

@Bill gates

@languid copper@fathom shard

wohooo

1k hours

[silk fern]

aint nuffin

[faint fiber]

even with cheats this is such a pain in the arse

[faint fiber]

thats nothing

[fathom shard]

i'm coming for you italy

[silk fern]

jobmax

[fathom shard]

italy try not to get your whole army encircled

[faint fiber]

this is insane, my troops and the soviets are all over the place

how do they have so many troops?! did stalin send the entire population?!

[woeful knoll]

How do i play fascist netherlands

My fleet just got smashed

1940

[faint fiber]

the perfect ending for the middle east

[ashen violet]

#pets

[fathom shard]

accept

[clear dagger]

oop sorry forgot bout rule 4? or 5

just a meme

[fathom shard]

more like rule 6 or 7

[clear dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324155832513855572/1449683717780930571/togif-27.gif

[tired jackal]

monarchy germany can still get free shit

they can actually get more free shit than normal germany

[polar radish]

What are some fun trees

[zealous junco]

Finland

Belgium

Chinese Soviet Republic

[calm delta]

Welp doing nothing atm so hoi4 it is

[calm delta]

What you interested in?

[polar radish]

Tomfooling

[calm delta]

What?

[upbeat tundra]

most unstable alliances ive seen

[upbeat tundra]

east india company

[calm delta]

Seems boring tbh

[inland falcon]

oh my god please

they need to add like a seperate little menu for these diplomatic requests i swear to God

[calm delta]

It’s really annoying isn’t it

[inland falcon]

it gets to a point

[calm delta]

Uh huh

I hate as commie china you barley get time to arm up and build up

[upbeat tundra]

what do i do to the tibetan child

[upbeat tundra]

i mean its realistic

[calm delta]

Yh I get that

It’s just annoying

[inland falcon]

i'd recommend a fourth option but it doesn't exist

[jade parcel]

very unstable

[upbeat tundra]

the balkan entente is just asking to die

THIS was the comintern on one of my playthroughs as communist china

[calm delta]

Yh I cba with commie china

[calm delta]

How do you get that much land as quick

[upbeat tundra]

germoney didnt do jack

this was like

1943 or something

[calm delta]

I’m doing British raj

[upbeat tundra]

china china china

china^3

[fair horizon]

Ah yes today i will click on the industry tab

[upbeat tundra]

you missing material twin

[vivid juniper]

I know that pain

[upbeat tundra]

can someone tell me how this happened though

like how is this possibly

possible

[inland falcon]

yeah i didn't have enough support equipment so unfortunately the soldiers don't get field hospitals anymore

[vivid juniper]

They’re able to create rival governments

[upbeat tundra]

oof

[upbeat tundra]

isnt that for dlc?

[vivid juniper]

No DLC

[inland falcon]

supply is more necessary than manpower

[upbeat tundra]

huh weird

still funny to see though

[silk fern]

stalin wtf dude

[upbeat tundra]

he has a vision

[vivid juniper]

I hate it. I hate it. I hate it.

[silk fern]

WHY is he liberating everybody 😭

[vivid juniper]

Is it US AI or Britain?

[upbeat tundra]

BE GLAD IT ISNT THIS

[vivid juniper]

It’s always those two

[upbeat tundra]

denmarkian nordic germanic reich

with the ruhr

[silk fern]

Its the stalin ai liberating shit

[vivid juniper]

I like player led peace conferences, but it’s exhausting having to do it for everything else you do not want to control

But this almost makes it worth it

[vivid juniper]

Even worse

[upbeat tundra]

this happened without plpc

i can never unsee this abomination

[vivid juniper]

I’ve seen Hungary make a mess

I tried playing Italy and my ally was hungry. They were stealing shit

[ember vine]

Average hoi4 experience

[upbeat tundra]

the nordic germanic reich with the ruhr

and the german republic

[vivid juniper]

At least for historical I think they should have a preset that forces the AI to stay historical with peace steel demands

They tried to, but it’s still a mess Britain steals parts of Germany

Hungary gets disemboweled by the Soviets

[upbeat tundra]

they prolly steal the parts of germany and put them into the british museaum

[vivid juniper]

It’s always in their occupation zone, but they make it part of themselves and not the occupation zone

[upbeat tundra]

wait lemme dig up the most cursed german partition ive ever seen

[vivid juniper]

This nightmare

Germany went nuts, and the communist countries went down their throat

[upbeat tundra]

oh yeah?

[wary silo]

where is id

[upbeat tundra]

nice job france

[calm delta]

There’s a lot of people playing multiplayer rn jeez

[vivid juniper]

It always can be far worse

[upbeat tundra]

how

france did that

how can it get worse

[vivid juniper]

Just saying

[upbeat tundra]

THEY DID THIS

[vivid juniper]

Yeah, that’s pretty bad

Have you ever played against a non-aligned Great Britain they steal literally everything and making your life a living hell

[upbeat tundra]

ionly time ive done that is alliance with the shade

for monarchist brit

not rly

[calm delta]

How is China winning wth

[vivid juniper]

If you’re allies with them, they can be invaluable, but they can also steal everything

[calm delta]

It’s 1940

[upbeat tundra]

LITERALLY the 3 kingdoms

[calm delta]

They just signed a white peace too

Its historical

[upbeat tundra]

forgive me for this but

[calm delta]

Everyone always says that but I Cba

[upbeat tundra]

whats cba

[calm delta]

can’t be assed

[upbeat tundra]

oh

sounds british

[calm delta]

Well if you check my bio you will see I’m British

[upbeat tundra]

nie

[calm delta]

?

[upbeat tundra]

nice

[calm delta]

Uh huh

Where you from

[upbeat tundra]

midel kingdom

[calm delta]

Never heard of it but cool

[upbeat tundra]

in my bio aswell

[calm delta]

Ahh nice China

[upbeat tundra]

fancy way to call china

[calm delta]

https://tenor.com/view/bailando-baile-china-china-bailando-asiatica-gif-16553062273408516338

[vivid juniper]

This was pain, but my crowning achievement as China with the northeast Army

[calm delta]

Sorry I have to

[upbeat tundra]

i dare u to try the china cancer mod

[calm delta]

Never heard of it

[calm delta]

Looks like my brain would explode by 1937

[upbeat tundra]

simmilar to kaiserreich controls ngl

[upbeat tundra]

you forgot the Ma cliques!!!

[vivid juniper]

They’re were all my puppets we joined the allies after SSSR attacked

Only a few of them were yellow

[upbeat tundra]

you should try china cancer mod 1 and china cancer mod 2

then

[vivid juniper]

Absolutely not

[upbeat tundra]

cancer 1

cancer 2

[calm delta]

Fair

[vivid juniper]

My crowning achievement as Japan

Also, I find it funny the allies keep releasing Ukraine at the expense of Poland

[upbeat tundra]

yk why this doesnt count?

because no random nations are in the greater east asian co prosperity

no argentina has joined the GEACPS

[vivid juniper]

I think with no compromise no surrender they have region locked Alliance better. I still have had communist Yugoslavia join communist China, though.

[upbeat tundra]

sad

[vivid juniper]

I don’t know how they do it, but when the world tension gets sky high, Yugoslavia is allowed to join the peoples front

It just happens

I’ve had it happened twice once when playing Japan and once randomly

[upbeat tundra]

josip broz tito went to mao and went pls big boy

[vivid juniper]

At least with my best Japan game, no one is independent except Afghanistan Nepal, and Bhutan

[winter fulcrum]

can they let us have saves in ironman mode or something? ive spent an hour just trying to get hitler as my leader as argentina

and yes historical ai is off

YES I FINALLY GOT IT

[night stone]

Its kinda a shame at the same time as learning the new naval system, I find that the AI, really doesn't know how it works either.

My first major naval engagement against Italy's full navy, they didn't even have a admiral. After that, mopping up was easy.

I still havent fixed my manpower problem but I still have the Netherlands in the fight.

[winter fulcrum]

ez

[eternal aspen]

isn't visible swastikas like, against server rules? idk if they've become more lenient about it or smth

question tho, how do I play as vichy? i can't remember if it's an event or what to be them or free-france

i've played france twice willingly, and both times i never lost an inch of french soil

[rich finch]

bro

i just had

2 million troops

on polands border

and

somehow poland killed them all

???

in the space of 30 seconds

[eternal aspen]

question 1, are you using mods

[rich finch]

no

well

[eternal aspen]

question 2, what's the template you're using

[rich finch]

rt56

thats it

[rich finch]

the default template

[eternal aspen]

that might be why

[rich finch]

i did have

loads of shock troops

too

so idk what went wrong

[eternal aspen]

ngl, i have no clue

[rich finch]

how did poland kill 2m troops

in 30 seconds

[eternal aspen]

did they have low supply (red box syndrome)

[rich finch]

no

supply was good

no attrition

nothing

[eternal aspen]

odd

[rich finch]

im not even gonna lie

i saw it happen

[eternal aspen]

both org and hp were max?

[rich finch]

and i just alt f4ed

[rich finch]

yes

fresh troops

trained ii

[eternal aspen]

strange indeed

tbf could be worse

you could have 5 million soviets on the german border

and get pushed to the urals before christmas that same year

[rich finch]

bro

[eternal aspen]

starting barb in october

[rich finch]

i just exited the game

as soon

as it happened

cause wtf

[eternal aspen]

lol

i'm ab to have real hell

i'm gonna play vichy france

[rich finch]

my game is hella bugged

this isnt the first time its happened

[eternal aspen]

and singlehandedly take the british isles and the 13 colonies

[rich finch]

ik im not doing nothing wrong too

cause

ive done the same strat

before

and ive taken poland in a few ingame days

[icy egret]

Uh did you get a massive pocket killed

[rich finch]

no

[eternal aspen]

has to be the case

[rich finch]

i didnt get

encircled

[eternal aspen]

wait, did you protect ostprussien?

[rich finch]

yes

i had seperate divs there

i was doing a pincer style attack

[icy egret]

Don’t tell me you battle planned

[eternal aspen]

battleplanning wouldn't matter

[rich finch]

nah i do it all the time

[eternal aspen]

if danzig falls, poland loses

[rich finch]

offensive plans from

slovakia

the main german poland border

and then prussia

[icy egret]

I dunno till I see photo evidence of 2 million casualties I’m not convinced

[rich finch]

2 million german casualties in september 1939

wtf

[coral gorge]

probably low max HP

[eternal aspen]

this is how much I hate germany but wanna play vichy

i will entirely abandon the remainder of france until the war ends

RK belgian-nordfranken can take Calais, germany can gladly take the maginot, i will develop the rest if i have time b4 i fall

[past wharf]

im mongol empire

[eternal aspen]

france shoul have a decision minigame for political violence

like they need to control the communists, fascists, and monarchist sympathisers in a TNO-style minigame mixing the balkan IMRO and US congress to keep the republic, well, a republic

[ember vine]

Best mongol empire is with Kumul Khanate

[eternal aspen]

<@&846894118219022336>

another scam bot

[ember vine]

I hate these theyre so annoying

[eternal aspen]

ong

[ember vine]

Seriously who is so dumb to get scammed like that

[restive sable]

ive seen those exact images used before

[eternal aspen]

lots of people are

[restive sable]

actually outrageous

[silk fern]

wow

mr beast

[ember vine]

Mistr best

[silk fern]

mist or beast

[restive sable]

real mr beast 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

[ember vine]

https://tenor.com/view/mrbeast-gif-10764304751790620059

Beast mister

Señor Monstrosity

[inland falcon]

peak

[ember vine]

Romanian internet propaganda be like

[ember vine]

Impostor among us ||edgy 12 year old Vlasov Russian Imperial Movement YT shorts edit||

[inland falcon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/water-spit-walrus-Priuav2CnPQxq

what beef could you possibly have with them my man

[ember vine]

Romania creating their master plan to rob anyone asking for directions in Bucharest

[eternal aspen]

what's the terms for the french navy split after france falls?

is it scripted like these ships go to free france, or is it a portion of my fleet?

[fair horizon]

Vichy france?

Im 90% sure its historical for the most part yeah

[eternal aspen]

yea, who gets what of the french navy, wondering if i should frontload my capitals before i fall so i can focus on DD/SS after the fall of paris

[fair horizon]

I know free france gets the bearn, mabye its anything not in a vichy port?

[eternal aspen]

idk lemme check code

it'd have to be an event.. right?

[fair horizon]

From what the google ai says its something to do with the attack on mers el kabir

[eternal aspen]

that's the french term for the toulon scuttle in 1940

when the french navy scuttled their own vesseles with UK support to prevent germany getting it

[toxic cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/945898196079616033/1281798851480784926/caption.gif

[eternal aspen]

then in 1942 irl, germany scuttled the remaining fleet out of fear that free french loyalists would give it to london

but ingame, the actual decision is bugged

smth like "france must not be democratic" or smth like that, it just doesn't work

[fair horizon]

Nah its when the british attacked the french in north africa

[eternal aspen]

ah mb

[south mountain]

If HOI4 was a WW1 game instead of WW2 game, would it be fun?

[fair horizon]

3rd july 1940

[eternal aspen]

GRW before it became crap

[silk fern]

no

great war mod is fun like once a year

[south mountain]

If HOI4 had the 1930 start date, would it be fun?

[silk fern]

just a bunch of industry build up to the war

so no

[south mountain]

Or if HOI4 had victoria 3 economy system and the diplomatic system would it be more fun?

[eternal aspen]

there's a mod for that too

[eternal aspen]

and a vic3 mod for that

[fair horizon]

From what im reading it seems that any ship not in france becomes yours when you capitulate

[eternal aspen]

wait this makes no sense, this is saying if germany is at war, but not with france, and vichy exists, operation anton (1942 fleet scuttle) can happen?

[south mountain]

Mods carry HOI4 😭

[eternal aspen]

so dock them in morroco, gotcha

also i feel like national state building puppets should reduce autonomy

like, this is useless unless you play UK in multiplayer

[fair horizon]

Id dock them in british ports just incase

[eternal aspen]

better yet, syria

[fair horizon]

Or in like guyana

[eternal aspen]

it remains vichy, it isn't france

[fair horizon]

or new caldonia is always free france unfortunately

[eternal aspen]

yea

no yea, guyana, i don't wanna trap my fleet in the med trap britain in the med with me

[inland falcon]

its not very fun, so no

[eternal aspen]

brittania may rule the ways, but i rule them better imo

this whole thing is tasked with one thing, and one thing only, get as many mines into the british coast as humanly possible

[feral hinge]

Hello chuds

[eternal aspen]

i'm ngl

historical ship designs are good in NCNS

only because the system doesn't go by IC anymore

[lethal ether]

are there actual benefits to using militia

[eternal aspen]

uhh, i can't remember

what are the stats for them?

afaik, they're just cheap infantry with less stats unless you go down Peoples Militia in the land doctrine infantry branch

[fair horizon]

Destroyer would be cheaper

you can put 2 minelaying rails on a destroyer

[modest grail]

whats the div cap per navy invasion against china as japan i dont wanna make too much troops

[inland falcon]

however many you want tbh

you're basically guaranteed to take a port with six divisions

you could prolly do it with less but it's nice to expand outwards a little bit

[modest grail]

so i can have 12 divs per invasion off the rip

[inland falcon]

i mean, there's technology limits but yeah

[modest grail]

i did 6 last time and landed with 12 total

but i just dont wanna make too many and be bound by tech or watever

[atomic grove]

make 1 invasion spread against multiple coasts

make it so theres atleast 2 divisions per coastal tile

[inland falcon]

tbh you can really get away with only landing in shandong. if you want to be really extra tho you could land in the south

[atomic grove]

shanghai is the best spot

u can use shanghai to encircle shandong

south is good but meh

barely any supply down south

[inland falcon]

fair. in my hist japan run i only landed in shandong iirc

rolled over china in like 3 months

they really made china too weak tbh

[past wharf]

How can I play with Kumul Khanate? I had to install a focus tree mod for Mongolia.

[inland falcon]

start as sinkiang and declare on the khotan ma

[past wharf]

I don't know why, but when the game first starts, Khotan Ma doesn't appear.

[inland falcon]

no DLC?

[past wharf]

Which dlc?

[inland falcon]

the most recent china one... NCNS

[vital cove]

you can just release yourself as kumul khanate immediately

[inland falcon]

lame.

[past wharf]

I need check if I have it.

[vital cove]

if Khotan ma doesn't exist then you don't

[past wharf]

But does it have a different focus tree than the warlords, or is it the same?

[inland falcon]

it has a few different focuses but its mostly the same. its just cool because you can stack cavalry buffs

[past wharf]

This mod I installed has all of that. But since I have it in Spanish, only the focus code appears, not the name, and that's what I don't like.

[inland falcon]

oh imma be real idk about the mod

[cunning pagoda]

hello

[eternal aspen]

i did legit defend france

the germans pushed one tile, and the whole front exploded

[graceful kayak]

why are my volunteers not doing anything in spain?

[inland falcon]

prolly poor supply. just micro them

[timber laurel]

is this a good peace deal for a total axis victory

[inland falcon]

italy got spanish Morocco?

[timber laurel]

yes

[inland falcon]

and spain doesn't get Gibraltar back?

[timber laurel]

they have gibraltar

[inland falcon]

???

[timber laurel]

i zoomed in on my screen

they own it

[acoustic wasp]

im a little new to the game guys and i heard there are mods.. is there one for like modern day? 2020s stuff cuz all i saw were alternate timelines of the cold war and stuff like that

[inland falcon]

not any good ones

[acoustic wasp]

how do u make the map look this clean btw

[acoustic wasp]

sad

[inland falcon]

unless you've got like a nasa super computer or smt millennium dawn is unplayable

[acoustic wasp]

I don't have a "nasa computer" my rig is medium at best

rtx 3060

[inland falcon]

just play red dusk instead lol

[timber laurel]

its a mod

[acoustic wasp]

is that also some cold war stuff?

[acoustic wasp]

name?

[ember vine]

Release as Sinkiang

[eternal aspen]

man vichy got screwed

[ember vine]

V is a B

[eternal aspen]

i kept no templates, i kept no XP, no production

i didn't keep my army either

all i kept was my stockpiles

and that's it

well, that is 75% of the navy

[timber laurel]

fps mad 1.17

[acoustic wasp]

thx

[inland falcon]

Alternate history modern day mod where the soviet union survived into the 2000s

[eternal aspen]

i think i can start building a real navy now

[eternal aspen]

red dawn?

[inland falcon]

It runs fine but it's pretty bare bones

[eternal aspen]

i bloody loved playing shiraq in it

[acoustic wasp]

i jus wanna play nations in the middle east in our days rn honestly that's why im asking

[inland falcon]

Red dusk

[acoustic wasp]

egypt iran iraq etc

[eternal aspen]

play iraq in red dusk, it's fun as hell

[inland falcon]

They've got Iraq content but if you aren't very good at the game I wouldn't recommend it

[acoustic wasp]

i lowk want egypt at the top of the list but ok I'll get better at vanilla first

[acoustic wasp]

ok I'll check it out thanks

[timber laurel]

treaty of rome vs treaty of london

lets see who wins

[eternal aspen]

another semi-fun mod for modern day middle east would be Millenium Dawn

though most middle eastern powers have the mods default focus tree

[acoustic wasp]

i think i looked at it but i was half asleep it had some gcc nasserism slop tree i think for egypt

[eternal aspen]

should i put 30.5cm or 38cm guns on my battleships?

[eternal aspen]

prolly, if you want a fun time with islamic states of central asia through to northern africa, play Iron Curtain

though that's set in the cold war, not modern

for some it's their childhood, others it's history lmao

[inland falcon]

TWR has some pretty decent middle east content

Except for palestine. The palestine content is kinda bad

[acoustic wasp]

i just wanted to play each country in a modern timeline and return it's "greater" versions but i thought it was gonna be fun because well in the current timeline it would be a bit hard due to these countries being broke or in civil wars

[inland falcon]

||~~the lead devs nationality shows in the events but I'll just leave it at that ~~||

[acoustic wasp]

and im not about to lay 60 bucks for supreme commander or whatever it's called

[eternal aspen]

fair

this BB is way overpowered, but that means i'll only need 3 or 4, one for every major sea region

4x3 38cm guns
2x3 120mm secondaries
8x2 113mm DP cannons
10x4 20mm AA

[acoustic wasp]

ok chat i need your opinions on my finnish play through

it's 1940, i managed to make peace with the soviets and sweden is in my faction, I'm fascist

i tried pressuring them many times to turn fascist but they just refuse,

now germany invaded Norway and took it, who do i fight first, liberate norway? because taking on the soviets i will need more than 2 and a half armies of infantry

or just put the play through to sleep

and go play something else

[eternal aspen]

who are you playing as?

[acoustic wasp]

fascist Finland

i wanted to annex all nordic countries and fight the soviets then the germans

but I couldn't in time

[eternal aspen]

what do you control currently?

like, did you take Karalia from russia?

[acoustic wasp]

just Finnish territory only, sweden is in my faction and the germans are friendly. norway is occupied by the germans

[acoustic wasp]

i started the uprising and went to sleep

but yes it's a separate nation now I'll help them

and they cut off the northern area totally I'll rush the port up there and encircle about 5 divisions

lemme open the game and ss

[timber laurel]

isnt there a keeper of the north focus tree

that makes u ask all nordic countries for their land

jsut do that

germany will hand over norway

[acoustic wasp]

I'll have to join the axis i think and i went down another line gimme 3 mins I'll show u cuz focus trees still overwhelm me a bit

[timber laurel]

go down this path

and get "keepers of the north"

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[acoustic wasp]

do i have to join the axis? i wanted to fight them later

[eternal aspen]

so, i think i've figured out when the stalin speech fires

it is either after the USSR reaches a 2/1 KDR on germany over 200k on both sides

or, after a victory in battle

either that, or it's after the USSR loses, then retakes a state that germany took from them

[lilac ginkgo]

yawn

[timber laurel]

german hegemony on europe collapses as the slavs in the east revolt , the german civil war between the non-aligned movement and the fascist begin

[timber laurel]

no

[lilac ginkgo]

what year is this bro

[timber laurel]

1955

[eternal aspen]

3x3 203mm main battery
6x2 113mm DP secondary battery
2x4 450mm torpedo tubes
8x 20mm AA emplacements

[lilac ginkgo]

so its twr right

why does spain have africa

[timber laurel]

no its a timelapse

i started the game in 1936

let it run till 1955

[lilac ginkgo]

ok then why is west russia a thing

thats only in tno

or twr

[timber laurel]

im using mods to make it more int,eresting

reichskommesiriat plus mod allows u to have a scripted peace deal with the USSR

[lilac ginkgo]

i know

[timber laurel]

yeah and when u do that

the USSR collapses

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah it does

well alrigt

alright

[mellow parrot]

Epic

[eternal aspen]

well, makes sense

i feel like PDX is missing a lot of smaller content like that

should i?

[lilac ginkgo]

clearly bro

[timber laurel]

it'd be great if the russian break away states had focus trees to reunify russia

[eternal aspen]

should I really, and i mean REALLY give my polar opposite it

[timber laurel]

but ion think theres a mod for it

[lilac ginkgo]

there are mods

[eternal aspen]

it would be cool if vichy had more content than a focus tree that screwed them

[lilac ginkgo]

theres a mod that adds focustrees to like half of the releasables

decent ones

[eternal aspen]

like, it should be more than just, fix issues join axis with france back in possession

[lilac ginkgo]

and they re different for each nations

[timber laurel]

no like

uh

how do i say it

like a mod that adds focus tree to the break away states after the USSR loses

not a releasable

[eternal aspen]

a generic focus tree for the breakaways

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah russia collapses via the reichskommisariats mod,then the releasable focustree comes in and siberia and the other breakaway states have focuses

[eternal aspen]

we really need a focus tree for the RKs

[lilac ginkgo]

breakaway states count as releasables

[eternal aspen]

technically they are releasables yes

[acoustic wasp]

i misclicked and joined them... anyways i encircled 13 divisions over here, the germans started fighting the soviets and im gonna take leningrad next after im done with this part

[eternal aspen]

the USSR involuntarily releases them

[alpine forum]

i genuinely dont know how to play

[eternal aspen]

how busy are ya

[alpine forum]

not at all rn

[eternal aspen]

gimme like 20 min to cut these taters and have some food, and i can show ya

[timber laurel]

great

whats the name of the mod?

[lilac ginkgo]

let me check

ive got like 100gb of hoi4 mods

jesus

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3609180292 and https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3640116818&searchtext=releasable

you need both of them

ig

and they re still working on more focus trees mainly in russia

[eternal aspen]

i don't think i'll be partaking in ww2

[past wharf]

haha

[lilac ginkgo]

i think ive got enough guns maybe

[eternal aspen]

however i do need to get through to the end of my focus tree ASAP

[ember vine]

Will still go to -40K within a month of war

[lilac ginkgo]

im in war

btw

[ember vine]

I don't understand logistics

Why

[lilac ginkgo]

ive got 400 divisions battleplanning into western europe

as russia

and im constantly winning

[mystic nest]

yeah

[lilac ginkgo]

and i still make a shitton of guns

[mystic nest]

average vanilla experience

[lilac ginkgo]

im playing kaiserredux

but

close

[mellow parrot]

lets goooo

[lilac ginkgo]

gg

[ember vine]

Gg

[mystic nest]

is this rng dependent or you actually managed to garrison the entire coast

i found when i played china i only had enough spare divs to garrison the ports

[lilac ginkgo]

i think ive done more than enough

[ember vine]

Fun fact: you have the best Hungary game when you're hungry

[mystic nest]

not enough blue and green on that screen

[lilac ginkgo]

soon bro soon

[ember vine]

I'm so hungry I could form Hunnic Empire rn

Gawt dam theres nothin to eat

[lilac ginkgo]

you sure buddy

[ember vine]

I dont wanna hurt my monies

[lilac ginkgo]

does your mom cook

or anyone in your family

[timber laurel]

after math of the 3rd great european war

[ember vine]

[timber laurel]

wait

the thing blocks it

hold on

[lilac ginkgo]

im sorry for your loss

[lilac ginkgo]

if thats where you re getting to

[lilac ginkgo]

well wow

[ember vine]

Nah my mom is just far away

Kinda my fault for sounding like she kicked the calendar

[lilac ginkgo]

its fine

[ember vine]

Im outside

Me hungy no monies

[lilac ginkgo]

so then go home and eat

if no money

[ember vine]

Maybe Ima eat monies instead

Change to pennies and eat

[lilac ginkgo]

alright

[ember vine]

Then israel gameplay

[lilac ginkgo]

why is everyone obsessed with israel

the idf and all that

[timber laurel]

i kinda feel bad for the poles

[lilac ginkgo]

mossad agents

[lilac ginkgo]

do you know

[mellow parrot]

I pushed Japan so hard that they didn't even ask for Indochina lol. By 1940 I was back at Beijing

[lilac ginkgo]

they ve been massacred like twice poles aint even a majority in poland by that time

[mystic nest]

zamn

[timber laurel]

most polish lands have been germanized

[lilac ginkgo]

well yeah

[timber laurel]

and like all of the german former lands are 40% german

so there will be a lot of instability in the new states

[lilac ginkgo]

did the ai cook this bro

how did they just invade germany

[timber laurel]

i instigated the russian unification wars and slav revolts but the civil and non-aligned vs fascist war was completly from the AI

[mellow parrot]

I did do a very different path though...

[heady lotus]

whats the price of the game?

it looks like a really good game

[mystic nest]

ajh

[lilac ginkgo]

you can grab it for 20 eur or so on sale

[mystic nest]

i was playing historical china

[heady lotus]

oh.

[mystic nest]

china in general feels deprefssing to play

[heady lotus]

ig not lol :/

[lilac ginkgo]

its not that expensive

normally its like double that but it goes on sale alot

[heady lotus]

yeah well for my country it is

[lilac ginkgo]

where u from

[heady lotus]

egypt

20 euros is like what

almost 2000 egp

[lilac ginkgo]

do people eat rocks in egypt

[mellow parrot]

I started HOI4 as Communist China before NSB, so it felt natural to return to the suffering.

[prisma saddle]

try kinguin os site like this that put it on 12 euros

[lilac ginkgo]

if 20 euros is alot how do you afford anything

[mellow parrot]

I shouldn't even really say return because I mostly played Asia lol

[mystic nest]

diabolical gameplay choice

[mystic nest]

have you travelled a lot??

[heady lotus]

well its my country

what am i gon do

[lilac ginkgo]

ive only left my country once

why

[mystic nest]

does hoi4 do regional pricing

[mystic nest]

ah yeah if you travel a lot youll know that like

[heady lotus]

steam doesnt even take egp lol

[mystic nest]

stuff in other countries is extremely cheap sometimes

and expensive other times

[heady lotus]

never left my country

[mystic nest]

oof

[lilac ginkgo]

alright well i live in a pretty shit region and stuff is sometimes expensive

[heady lotus]

its aigh :/

[lilac ginkgo]

but like 20 eur in my currency isnt that much

i could eat very cheap food for like a week or 2 with that money

but the cheapest

[mystic nest]

take a trip to like indonesia or almost any south east asian country ngl

except singapore

[mystic nest]

a week??

[lilac ginkgo]

i know other countries are cheaper

[heady lotus]

go to any country in africa

[alpine forum]

how do i attack a country

[mystic nest]

20 euros gets me a sandwich in the city

[heady lotus]

20 euros can last you like a good 2 weeks or some

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah but thats only eating bread with butter and maybe some ham ontop for 2 weeks

[mystic nest]

are you at war with them

[lilac ginkgo]

maybe some potatoes too

[mystic nest]

zamn

[heady lotus]

yeah :/

oh well

[lilac ginkgo]

also japan is cheaper than where i live

[heady lotus]

thank yall ❤️

[lilac ginkgo]

and japan is like very nice

im from romania

our gas prices are like 3x more than in the us

[mystic nest]

oh yeah i loved japan

headin back there again this year

[lilac ginkgo]

never went therebut i know people that have been

and its fairly cheap

[heady lotus]

btw any of yall know a way i can earn steam credit

or money or wtv

i mean earn

not free

[mellow parrot]

I am not excited to face this

[lilac ginkgo]

well u cant earn money

sadly

people can donate you money

[mystic nest]

you should be more scared of the terrain than the units

[mellow parrot]

Exactly

Its a mountainous region

[mystic nest]

i hated fighting the prc as historical; china

[heady lotus]

but noone is gon donate anything to a random person yk

[mystic nest]

i took almost as much casualties to them as against japan

[heady lotus]

so i gotta find a way to get my money

[mystic nest]

which is insane

[heady lotus]

idk what to do for that tbh

[lilac ginkgo]

the war of doom and despair

[mystic nest]

hoi4 isnt on sale rn anyway

[heady lotus]

oh

[mystic nest]

supplies mate

[lilac ginkgo]

no

its the fact that ive got 400 divisons stacked up there maybe

[snow rain]

Play cs2 and hope your weekly drop is worth a lot (do not do gambling)

[mystic nest]

you have like a bajillion divs stacked how are they not attritioning

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah uhh

no clue BUT

ive got like 800k guns

and over 100k in artillery and support eq

[mystic nest]

ah wait htis is the mod

idk how that mod works

[lilac ginkgo]

kaiserredux

[snow rain]

But you have no stats because no supply

[lilac ginkgo]

i dont care because

i can attack forever

and do nothing else

[snow rain]

No you can't

[lilac ginkgo]

ive got millions of men

[mystic nest]

red bubbling with like 100 divs attacking is insane

[lilac ginkgo]

im russia brochacho

i still win offensives

continously

[snow rain]

It takes months of no fighting for manpower to replenish. By constantly attacking you can't replenish it

[lilac ginkgo]

i have millions of manpower and ive been attacking for a year or so

so its fine

and im on extensive conscription

[heady lotus]

its haram to gamble lol

[snow rain]

And by the time you stop those head-onto-wall assaults, your enemy will just click

[heady lotus]

plus i wont install cs2

ion like it

[lilac ginkgo]

wym clicl

click

[snow rain]

It takes a month ofno combat to reinforce a div by 10%. It doesn't matter if you have them in reserve if you can't reinforce

[lilac ginkgo]

i just gotta wait abit and itll all be fine

well im still advancing

[snow rain]

Push

[lilac ginkgo]

ive stopped the offensives and they re not doing antyhing

so its fine

i couldve easily had like half my army and still won but its impossible to micromanage

cause i lag alot

from all the stuff thats happening

[snow rain]

You'd push so much easier if you had supplues

[lilac ginkgo]

its fine

i have supplies

its just that my army was constinously attacking for a year

[alpine forum]

no

[snow rain]

-80% breakthrough and -60% atk is so bad
It's -90% on both for tanks btw because no fuel

[lilac ginkgo]

i have fuel

[snow rain]

No you don't

[lilac ginkgo]

yes,i do

[mystic nest]

then you cant attack them

[snow rain]

It can't reach the divisions. All those red icons with supply indicate that no div has supply

[lilac ginkgo]

thats better

im not trying to fix shit

[snow rain]

I can't see more than 1 div supplied properly

[lilac ginkgo]

just let it go

it sucks sure

[timber laurel]

global superpowers come crashing down as the weakened japanese empire signs peace with both america and italy
the chinese ,indians and indonesian take this chance to revolt agaisnt their oppresive colonial regimes

[mystic nest]

average release everything run'

[timber laurel]

hey its accurate

[knotty vortex]

whoever told me frances navy is better than the UK lied to me

ive got 0 navy left now

thanks guys

[lilac ginkgo]

it can always be better

[timber laurel]

er guys

i have a problem

[lilac ginkgo]

yes

[timber laurel]

everyone keeps declaring war on eachother

how do i stop them

[lilac ginkgo]

you dont

[mystic nest]

well obviously if you throw any nations starting navy at the uks starting navy

it doesnt go well

[knotty vortex]

well what am i supposed to do then 😔

[lilac ginkgo]

and so it goes

coconuts take over the world

[grave sonnet]

Restore the timeline

[simple raft]

Guys how big of a chance is that vichy France, Germany and italy attack switzerland?

[lilac ginkgo]

wym bro

[mystic nest]

build up the navy first

[simple raft]

In historical ai

[grave sonnet]

Restoring the timeline by making coconuts win

[mystic nest]

eh ive seen it a few times

its not that rare

[lilac ginkgo]

they dont need my help

they ve done it already

[grave sonnet]

If you piss off Germany (have low relations) they will attack I'm pretty sure

[simple raft]

Bcs this is my first time seeing someone attacking switzerland

[lilac ginkgo]

coconut conquests continue

its over

[grave sonnet]

Because they will see you as non neutral

And atac

[mystic nest]

ive given up on trying to understand how the ai works

[grave sonnet]

If it's on Ur side it's dogwater

[mystic nest]

if its on the enemy side its still dogwater

[grave sonnet]

That's pretty much it

[grave sonnet]

Dogwater but it tries a bit better

[mystic nest]

eh ai germany cant even break the czechs most of the time if you go little entente france

[lilac ginkgo]

how

because ive done it before and czechoslovakia fell in seconds

they only hold if you ve got poland in ur faction

or anyone else on their border

[mystic nest]

yes

its wonderful when they hold

[lilac ginkgo]

it isnt

[mystic nest]

is it not

[lilac ginkgo]

hoi4 without historical ww2 is like a dog with no legs

[mystic nest]

my freest france games ever were going that route

oh

i mean in terms of how free the game becomes

[lilac ginkgo]

well

if u wanna take over the world then sure

kill germany like that

[mystic nest]

if im allies i end my games when germany italy japan and maybe russia cap

if im playing russia i end the game when the axis and europe cap

[lilac ginkgo]

its over

[mystic nest]

unless if im bothered to invade britain

[knotty vortex]

how do i combine my navy into one big army

im kinda confused about it

[lilac ginkgo]

son

[knotty vortex]

i want everything together apart from subs

[lilac ginkgo]

dont try to learn the navy as anew player

[mystic nest]

click to select

then right click on another navy

and boom

combined

[knotty vortex]

okay

i always get confused by the numbers

[mystic nest]

same as how you assign divisions and armies

its the exact same thing

[knotty vortex]

cause sometimes they just dont increase

[mystic nest]

because it takes time

for the navy to move to its newly assigned fleet sometimes

[knotty vortex]

oh yeah i see now

appreciate it

[timber laurel]

the war to end all wars is over

also the reason why germany is disunified is because they kept declaring war on everyone

[lilac ginkgo]

that was ww1

but uh

[timber laurel]

the 2nd war to end the wars

all

[lilac ginkgo]

that was ww2

maybe

[timber laurel]

the 3rd one then

[lilac ginkgo]

you ve probably had more than 3

[mystic nest]

just one more war guys this one will end all wars trust me i swewar

[lilac ginkgo]

by no

now

[lilac ginkgo]

one small bomb in north korea and we re alldead

[mystic nest]

i live in australia no one cares about this place

[knotty vortex]

as france, if im gonna attack the UK where should i set my navies homebase

[mystic nest]

the big kim would prolly forget i exist

[knotty vortex]

if i want supremacy in the channel

[lilac ginkgo]

you re kinda close to nort korea buddy

[mystic nest]

doesnt matter much

[knotty vortex]

ah okay

[lilac ginkgo]

hes nuking everything in his close proximity

[timber laurel]

no it was only 3 world wars

[knotty vortex]

ill probably just use one in the channel then

[timber laurel]

its like 1958 now

world peace is achieved

[mystic nest]

berlin is literally closer to pyongyang than like almost all the major cities in australia

[lilac ginkgo]

thats untrue

you re basically on the same continent

you re similar

[mystic nest]

🥀 🥀 aight man

[lilac ginkgo]

they eat spiders as a delicacy and you ve got them all over your country

[mystic nest]

truth

[timber laurel]

gdp from richest to poorestg

they're almost 3 times richer then irl

[lilac ginkgo]

well

[ember vine]

Theres a gdp in HOI4 wtf

[lilac ginkgo]

whats up with the flags

[lilac ginkgo]

its a mod

[ember vine]

Oh

[mystic nest]

no

[ember vine]

I don't play mods

Too lazy to download

[mystic nest]

dont give pdx more ideas for more micromanagement slop

[ember vine]

Aw hell na

[mystic nest]

ccant wait for them to introduce the feature where you have to manually allocate trains to armies

to keep them supplied

itll be wonderful

[ember vine]

Micromanagement more like micromanagingbuttsecks

[timber laurel]

?

[lilac ginkgo]

is that also a mod

cause some of these arennt in vanilla

arent

[ember vine]

Heck no

[timber laurel]

everything is a mod

anyway im gonna end the simulation here

[eternal aspen]

so i lost

miserably

[timber laurel]

the cold war is between italy and the US now

[eternal aspen]

i should send this to bittersteel to do ngl

[mystic nest]

its not even a disaster save

[eternal aspen]

yea it is

i'm vichy

[mystic nest]

oh

lmao

first mistake was not pushing britain out of the med

[eternal aspen]

germany can't push, italy has deposed benito

i couldn't until japan dec on me in 1943

this is 1944

all of africa went to free france other than north right away

like, as soon as we split, they left for free france

[mystic nest]

playing vichy france is just playing fascist france but with extra steps

[eternal aspen]

extra steps? it's basically like saying "here is 99% of france, oh and you gave EVERYTHING to germany"

if i still had flamethrower tanks, i'd have been able to easily hold the AI off

[mystic nest]

you dont need flamethrower tanks to hold

[eternal aspen]

yea.. you do

you need good tank divisions

[mystic nest]

no you dont

what

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[eternal aspen]

bc good luck with no MP, and no eco

especially on veteran

[mystic nest]

literally two days ago i did a world conquest with only 18 width inf divs

well not world

all majors

cuz world conquests are boring as hell

[eternal aspen]

in this image, i barely had enough PP to do the last concession

[mighty zephyr]

Never playing unhistorical again
I was Lithuania tryna unite baltics. I had destroyed latvia and estonia (partially). There was a single tile in tartu that became fascist during the civil war, i was justifying against them so i could finish the job. ONE day before i deckared that single tile ANNXED FINLAND???

[eternal aspen]

i took that focus ASAP to reduc the 40% consumer good to germany

[eternal aspen]

did they core it?

[mighty zephyr]

Pretty sure

The finnish army was there

I lost cuz i wasnt ready obv

[eternal aspen]

that's fair

ngl, i kinda wanna do a mp game as italy with a competent germany and just wreak the allies

like Wolfenstein that crap

[timber laurel]

goodluck building a big enough navy to cross the atlantic

[eternal aspen]

thats... easy

ik how to do naval

[mighty zephyr]

Good luck being italy

[eternal aspen]

i'm also good at italy

the 2nd country i learnt how to play

1st was ofc... old PRC

when i played vanilla, first time i actually spent more than 20min in hoi4 was Lanius' cohort back when NSB dropped

i should try playing them again ngl, i feel like i'd actually be a threat for more than 20 minutes since i actually know what makes a good div

[mighty zephyr]

The inevitable scenario of losing all of east africa to ethiopa on ur first playthrough

I remember doing so bad that ethiopa declared war on allies instead of joining them? Idk bro

[eternal aspen]

not really

i played them before i got BBA, so i didn't have a timer before they went to the allies

i did what i normally do

send my entire CAS/bombing fleet, blow them tf up, and call it a day

by mid to late april

ofc, it took me ages to recreate that bc i am still pretty booty cheeks at hoi4

[mystic nest]

sure

im down

[eternal aspen]

lol i closed hoi4 now it's stuck updating god knows what mod

[mighty zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/unc-still-got-it-gif-6384030002593541773

[eternal aspen]

oh, it's a few mods that just got NCNS support

so it might be like, an hour b4 i can even touch the game since i do wanna update the

[mystic nest]

💀 zamn

its 10 for me i can prolly play until one or two

three horus should be enough anyway

[eternal aspen]

tbf it's almost 7am and i should prolly get a little sleep

[mystic nest]

7am?? at that point js call it an all nighter lol

[eternal aspen]

asynch online school work

i could go to sleep rn, wake up at 9pm and do like 5 assignments or anything

[knotty vortex]

bro i give up

the uk is genuinely impossible to naval invade

[eternal aspen]

nah it isn't

technically in terms of aerodynamics, air is just less dense water

naval invade through the less dense air

[knotty vortex]

france air force 💔

[eternal aspen]

what year?

[knotty vortex]

39

cause i tried using navy

[mystic nest]

then paratroop