hoi4-general

[atomic grove]

then wait till 1938

so u can ready up completely

i recommend marine divs

[prisma steppe]

dont listed to @atomic grove spam 2 widths

he isnt enlightend by the 2 width gospel

[modest grail]

ive tried everything u can think of ive had like tons of infantry , i started to get mitsubishi cas rounded up to 300 planes to support my troops , but i got really close by using naval invasions BUT my main set back is i never really understood the micro managing i think if i do what im doing but just take my time and dont get lazy i could get em

[prisma steppe]

no no no

[modest grail]

so your saying like troops with one infantry

[prisma steppe]

build like 5k divs

[modest grail]

LOL

[prisma steppe]

yes

[modest grail]

thats really out of the box

[atomic grove]

dont mind him

hes bullshitting

[prisma steppe]

nah i am not

[atomic grove]

ragebait

[prisma steppe]

against ai its sound strat

[ivory hull]

what are you on about

[prisma steppe]

even in mp it works as org wall

you can attack and attack and attack

[atomic grove]

make marine divisions

like

[modest grail]

i have my doubts but i may try this just bcuz its interesting and funny

[atomic grove]

30 width

or 32 width

marines

[ivory hull]

*36w

[prisma steppe]

as if the org runs out the div dies and gets replaced by a new one thus continueing the fight

[atomic grove]

i want him to make more marine divs

but sure

[prisma steppe]

also it lags the game so its even more op

[atomic grove]

and your doubts are 100% righr

btw

make medium tanks

[prisma steppe]

i am 100% serios

2 width work

[atomic grove]

go to ur 12 inf bat infantry div

idk what its called

[prisma steppe]

better then most expect

[atomic grove]

move the 3 infantry bats on the right to the bottom

and add 2-4 medium tank battallions

[prisma steppe]

imagine you whole army is a single div that never tires and can fight forever

[modest grail]

i tried to make marines but i edited a existing template that was mass spread and told me that this is past my special forces cap so for the longest time i thought i could only have 1 😹 so i never had the chance to test marines i always sent infantry to the naval invasions

[prisma steppe]

that is the core mindset of 2 width spam

[atomic grove]

(make sure to make another copy but this time just 18w infantry with support companies)

[fair horizon]

bulgaria is as boring as iceland ngl

[atomic grove]

use the 18w as infantry holders

[prisma steppe]

that sound like skill issue tbh

[atomic grove]

especially when u land in shanghai and on the manchurian front

[modest grail]

thats exactly what i been doing landing on shanghai

[prisma steppe]

spam 2 widths and be enlightend as your pc explodes

[atomic grove]

and use 1 full army of the infantry and tank divs on the beijing front

[modest grail]

cuz thats what i seen all the people on youtube do lol

[atomic grove]

because its right

if u want an encirclement

[modest grail]

what makes the marines better for the naval invasion bcuz on paper the infantry look stronger once they land

[atomic grove]

use the inf and tank army to rush down to jinan

use the marines in shanghai to connect with jinan

to encircle shandong

[atomic grove]

marines are better than infantry for naval invasions

they have better buffs on amphibious, rivers, and marshes

special forces are just better infantry

amphibious buffs means that they perform better in naval invasions

[atomic grove]

and they do better against those bridges

[ivory hull]

bro tf is this

[fair horizon]

FREEDOM

[atomic grove]

how dedicated of u to spend ur time making this

[prisma steppe]

meta vs true fun

[modest grail]

the first time i figured out my special forces wasnt capped i made paratroopers and sent them into china and it went really bad

[fair horizon]

you spend the first 2 years just waiting for britian to say yeah you can do military stuff again

[prisma steppe]

just reused a old meme and recalibrated it

[atomic grove]

if u want more special forces cap

make more divisions

the special forces cap is based off of a certain percentage of how many BATTALLIONS are in ur army

[winged field]

That's like with all special forces. They are better than infantry in their respective terrains but will perform usually worse on plains terrain. You might think making special forces full army as good option but they will perform worse outside their respective terrains. And that's because with special forces you lose around 100hp. Which is a lot. Worse in a sense that you will take more eq and mp loses

[prisma steppe]

this individual is still typing

and hes saying i am wasting time making absolute peak painting

[prisma steppe]

the lion does not concern himself with the opionion of britons

[south mountain]

Ngl they should add a peace treaty system where the enemy can surrender

[atomic grove]

there is

its called conditional surrender

except

[south mountain]

Except that it is ultra rare

[fair horizon]

which they never do

[atomic grove]

the ai almost never does it

[prisma steppe]

but it isnt

nah it isnt even conditional surrender

[atomic grove]

so the conditional surrender option is kind of useless because they basically never use it

[prisma steppe]

its normall surrender

[south mountain]

I hope they add a system like in Victoria 3 I guess

[prisma steppe]

or every other paradoxic game

[frail bolt]

They should make that the player can do white peace

[south mountain]

HOI4 would be ultra complex if it had Victoria 3 economy system

[prisma steppe]

but ck3 has such a system too afaik

[sudden thistle]

Hoi5

[late valley]

hello

[prisma steppe]

Hoi5 will either be absolute peak or abysmal dogshit

[winged field]

It won't happen tbh

[late valley]

Ihoi 5 is gonna be a combination of victoria 3 and hoi 4

[modest grail]

i still dont fully understand how people operate the battle mechanics i get pretty lazy and just set the offensive line and never micro manage and just watch my army burn and get back on tarkov LOL i need to put more effort into the war , the times i did get close was when i did a bit of micro managing

[south mountain]

Will HOI5 be more similar with HOI4 millennium dawn or HOI4 BICE game mechanics wise?

[winged field]

If the game starts being irrelevant they will revive it as they do with Stellaris every couple years

[prisma steppe]

if thou are multi-task-gameing thou need a new hoppy tbh

[sudden thistle]

I prefer bice over MD every single time

[late valley]

i want a 2000 s sencario in hoi 5

[south mountain]

You have community mods for that!!

[frail bolt]

Typical Italy being braindead

[prisma steppe]

so we get the 9/11 super-event?!?!

[late valley]

no but like made by paradox itself

[south mountain]

They won't do that.

[late valley]

Ik bro

[prisma steppe]

triggered by saudi doin focus

[winged field]

Italy trying to be useful level impossible

[south mountain]

I would prefer a 1933 start date ngl in hoi4 or hoi5 when it comes out

[late valley]

if u were mussolini what would u do

[prisma steppe]

there is a 1930's start date mod

[frail bolt]

They already got humiliated by Ethiopia now it’s sultanate of aussa

[prisma steppe]

its so mid

[late valley]

eh

[prisma steppe]

2 widths everywhere

[late valley]

Lowk 1939 start date isnt bad if u just wanna conquer and not build up

[modest grail]

is there ever times where you have no offensive line and just move a battalion manually or is most of the battles done with a strategic offensive line and pulling troops away to micro manage the battles

[south mountain]

You can just use battleplans to do the micromanagement for you!

[winged field]

Honestly anything different I would do would make the domino effect. They were doomed to fail since the struggle was there already from within the party

[south mountain]

(But it is harder)

[modest grail]

what even is battle plans

[south mountain]

Game mechanics

[winged field]

If he was deposed sooner and replaced it would end the same

[frail bolt]

In my historical game Italy had a civil war late 1940

[modest grail]

is that like how i can set them to aggressive

[heavy vigil]

chat my last vic3 game was like a rollercoaster of economic depression, life is bad

[south mountain]

Ahistorical or historical?

[frail bolt]

Historical

[late valley]

If i was mussolini i would just build up and not so any wars of my own become germanys pet then start my wars

[south mountain]

Chose one, Ahistorical or historical

[frail bolt]

The ai was braindead

[fair horizon]

bulgaria run already over

[frail bolt]

It’s historical

[sudden thistle]

Just go Prussia ur Balkans

Ur fine

[south mountain]

Do you prefer ahistorical or historical?

[fair horizon]

im not fighting 3 majors with a half functioning army

[fathom shard]

the average hoi4 player would probably have better critical thinking than wartime mussolini

[sudden thistle]

Just naval invade the UK 🙄

[winged field]

That would maybe work if it wasn't the fascist party in charge. Their whole cult was centered around making Italy Great again so doing nothing would be political suicide.

[frail bolt]

Ahistorical i like watching the world suffer

[south mountain]

Ahistorical is fun

[late valley]

ye but if the country got more prospuers i think that wouldnt be bad

[late valley]

Its better than historical

[winged field]

Same way you could argue what would happend if Hitler didn't attack Poland and just stay cool after taking Czechoslovakia. The popularity within the Germany would crumble as the economy since it was centered around army production.

[south mountain]

"Why didn't x do y" always has the same answer in history, they thought about it but it was not good at their time

[modest grail]

ima start a new game on hoi4 rn , so u want me to have 12 units of pure default marines land in shanghai right

[late valley]

i said if

[atomic grove]

no

32w marines

make as much as u can

[late valley]

Yes thats why they invaded

[atomic grove]

with support companies

[winged field]

Maybe or they would just get annexed as Hungary did after they tried to minimize the participation in the war

[atomic grove]

and also

[late valley]

maybe

[atomic grove]

if u still have space after training as much marines as possible, change them to 36 width

[late valley]

But hey we arent poltician or leaders what do we know abt their decisions

[modest grail]

which support

[frail bolt]

Im literally on 1938 historical and Carlist Spain rose up and they are winning the civil war.
"Very historically accurate"

[atomic grove]

also i recommend staying to grand battleplan so u can get the army spirit that gives more special forces cap

[winged field]

Of course. We can always just speculate at the end.

But it's interesting to think about it

[atomic grove]

the basics

pioneers, anti air, logi

[late valley]

Alt history hitler doesnt invade ussr but does sea lion what do u think would have happened

[atomic grove]

those 3 u really need

[fair horizon]

coastal defense ships are abominations

light and heavy guns?

[atomic grove]

the 2 empty slots, u can add whatever u want, especially field hospital which i recommend

[modest grail]

kk

[finite plume]

The US needs to lose this much land to cap rn 🙏

[atomic grove]

also make a copy of ur 24w infantry division, add a few support companies and 2-4 medium tank battallions

[fair horizon]

GUATEMALA?

[finite plume]

I wanted to invade from a specific side

👍

[terse skiff]

with 3 collabs you can cap usa by going to the chicago-alabama line

[atomic grove]

and then for the ORIGINAL 24w inf template that u didnt change, make it 18w infantry and a few more support companies

[finite plume]

Modded, more VP's

[winged field]

They could dominate the air but even if they were preparing for it more the whole naval invasion possibilty is just too much. Especially since they would need to target even more USA ships which would trigger USA interference anyway

[modest grail]

and convert all the 24 to 18 ?

[winged field]

And sooner

[finite plume]

These are all the VP's I have for the US rn

New England region, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Florida, and Alaska are done

[fair horizon]

dominate the air how? they lost most of their best pilots over london

[late valley]

if they had a really gd air superiority they could have taken out the british ships in the english channel then done an invasion but i dont think anything like that could happen

[atomic grove]

make 1 full army of the inf-tank template for the beijing front, an army of just the better marine divs, 1 army of 18w inf to support the shanghai front, and 2+ armies of 18w inf to support the manchurian-beijing front

[split bane]

Bro every province in Florida is a VP 💔

[terse skiff]

germany lacked the capabilities to rule the air, and any attempt to sealion would be immediately destroyed since germany lost most of its naval invasion equipment in norway and a lot of the rest was bombed by uk during the battle of britain

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-skibidi-fortnite-war-nezy-fortnite-horrors-of-war-gif-7547138492306625384

[atomic grove]

if u cant afford the 1 full army of inf-tank divs, then just make it 18 divs of it instead

[terse skiff]

uk's air force was designed to britain's air space and at the time in history had the best defense (Dowding system)

[finite plume]

I like how you don't notice just how much VP's Alaska has lol

[split bane]

[atomic grove]

also, u should setup a max collab government for china

[heavy vigil]

germany only had the card of the uk not having like any domestic resources

[winged field]

Production wise they could increase it later on. It would depend how much USA would increase their lease

[split bane]

Why does ALASKA have so many?

ITS ALASKA

NOBODY LIVES THERE

[modest grail]

so u want me to have 24 divisions of infantry with 2 tanks in each one , thats gonna require hella tanks i will try tho

[winged field]

If they would actually belive that Germany is going for UK for real

[finite plume]

Most of them don't even have more than 1k people 🙏

[terse skiff]

i mean, it's not like the german fleet can destroy uk's naval trade system

[fair horizon]

could they replace the loss of expericnced aviators?

[split bane]

Then don't add them...
A town with 1k people shouldn't be a victory point

[atomic grove]

if u cant afford the 2 tank bats in the template, then 1 tank bat in the template is also fine

[south mountain]

Which mechanics do ya think hou4 should HAVE?

[split bane]

That's too little people

[finite plume]

IT'S THE BIGGEST US STATE

DO YOU REALIZE HOW BIG ALASKA IS

[terse skiff]

space marines are not useful anymore

[atomic grove]

just make sure to add more tank bats if u can as the war progresses

[winged field]

experienced? no, could they replace more aviators than the british? probably

[terse skiff]

just make specialized inf and armor divisions

[atomic grove]

he is japan

in 1938

[fair horizon]

probably not, ever plane lost over britian was a pilot lost too

[modest grail]

ok ima get started we will see how this goes

[terse skiff]

tanks in the mountains of china? without flame tanks?

[split bane]

Biggest yes
BUT NOBODY LIVES THERE
You take Anchorage and Juneau and there's nowhere else that's actually significant

[terse skiff]

just use inf and cas

[atomic grove]

oh yeah i forgot to tell him that

[atomic grove]

research special projects

[finite plume]

Realistically there'd be a bunch of oil refineries and mines in the outbacks of Alaska

[atomic grove]

everything except for super heavy howitzer

[finite plume]

So there WOULD be some importance

[cedar kite]

Tbf most us states are missing their capitals as vps 😭

[winged field]

yeah, I'm just looking at it manpower wise.

[finite plume]

😔 ✌️

Mississippi doesn't even have VP's

[cedar kite]

Like texas, Louisiana, new york

[winged field]

obviously that doesnt mean every german can become a pilot

[cedar kite]

Ik 😭

[winged field]

just that they could do it more

[atomic grove]

i also recommend changing ur medium tanks into sp artilleru

[split bane]

Well yeah but you shouldn't need to take every single province in Alaska since most of them don't even have enough people to justify a VP there
Like what
VPs should be a mix of importance and population
Alaska has neither of those

[modest grail]

ive tried infantry and cas a few times and i failed everytime but its prolly cuz im still trying to learn to micro manage the war and shit

[cedar kite]

Jackson ville, Orlando or Tampa Florida aren't vps in the game 😭

[atomic grove]

instead of normal medium tanks

[winged field]

now the question is for how long could they do that

not long for sure

[finite plume]

You can still snipe their VP's

In fact, more VP's actually help

[cedar kite]

I rather have more vos in the us in general they are missing a lot, even mexico are missing a couple

[finite plume]

Since they give supply

[cedar kite]

Mexico has a lot of hidden vps

[finite plume]

Anchorage has like 8 points

[cedar kite]

Including Merida which is the capital of yucatan

[modest grail]

ive made 100s of mitsubishi cas planes and had hella troops with like 40k supplies in stockpile and still got cooked by china lol

[finite plume]

Juneau's 2 and I believe Fairbanks is 3 or 4

[cedar kite]

But in game the capital of Yucatan is quetzumal

[split bane]

I agree
But Alaska shouldn't have VP spam

[cedar kite]

Used to be cancun but that didn't exist until the 1960s

[cedar kite]

Alaska can keep the vps as long as it's not required to cap the usa

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-doctor-pigeon-doctor-walking-t-mobile-gif-7871406254764076813

[cedar kite]

Like have them all be 1 and maybe Anchorage be 3

[fair horizon]

usa has to core alaska

[modest grail]

land warfare facility ?

[atomic grove]

yes

[cedar kite]

Not the only way to core Alaska though

[fair horizon]

neither hawaii nor alaska were states during ww2

[cedar kite]

Yeah we know

[atomic grove]

if u dont have one, build one as soon as u start the game

[cedar kite]

Neither is puerto rico

[modest grail]

i seen somebody do this on youtube but i seen it took 200 days and was like breh

but if its useful i will try it this time

[fair horizon]

and that means you dont need to cap them at all

[finite plume]

Oh it definitely isn't

[fair horizon]

only core vps matter

[atomic grove]

china is mountainy and has no supply

[cedar kite]

For howitzer or super railwaygun

[atomic grove]

of course it will take a while

[snow rain]

land warfare facility is basically a must have in all playhrough

[finite plume]

Lemme do the math rq

[atomic grove]

im telling him to research armored support vehicle and flamethrower tanks

he should research flame tanks first though

[cedar kite]

Like from modding I have realized just how much is missing lol

[cedar kite]

Ah

[finite plume]

Alaska has 65 victory POINTS

total

[modest grail]

and im guessing i spam military factorys after the facility ?

[atomic grove]

yes

[modest grail]

ok ima get started wish me luck

[split bane]

Ah hell nah
This is what I mean
This is not necessary
Keep Anchorage, Juneau, and Fairbanks but kill the rest it's just way too much

[atomic grove]

u should also make a few synthetic refineries later on

[finite plume]

SF alone has 60

[atomic grove]

but not too much

[finite plume]

So yeah you def won't need Alaska lol

[atomic grove]

dont spam refineries

after that, just mils forever

[modest grail]

for rubber ?

[finite plume]

Here's supply btw

[atomic grove]

yes

and oil

[modest grail]

i usually trade with siam for rubber off rip is that bad

[atomic grove]

research the refinery upgrades in the industry tab later on

[atomic grove]

its not bad

[modest grail]

bet

[atomic grove]

but if u wanna mass produce planes before 1941

then u need refineries

[modest grail]

ahh i see

[atomic grove]

not just rubber from siam

[grand inlet]

its safe to say ive won the naval war

[cedar kite]

No

[fair horizon]

wait isnt that commie ireland?

[heavy vigil]

vendrip

[finite plume]

US should've made their navy here

[fair horizon]

rt56 then?

[fair horizon]

yes casey?

[cedar kite]

Honestly Alaska should be split into 2-3 states just how big it is like mainland Alaska, panhandle in the east and then the archipelago in the west

[heavy vigil]

im struggling so hard in vic3 im actually like

[atomic grove]

oh nvm

[heavy vigil]

im actually strategizing now

[atomic grove]

it IS ireland

[fair horizon]

did you build a navy?

[cedar kite]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-american-psycho-oh-obviously-donald-kimball-gif-10547554943860686477

[heavy vigil]

like properly planning ahead

[heavy vigil]

it might be the optimal strat

[fair horizon]

i was watching a video on the new naval designer and it looks amazing

[cedar kite]

Are you playing as michigan

[fair horizon]

you can buy ships from other countries too

[heavy vigil]

it does come with the caveat of crippling my economy

[heavy vigil]

hawai'i

[cedar kite]

In all seriousness why is Michigan a relesable

[heavy vigil]

idk i dont play the EUA

[finite plume]

If I do split states that's prob what I'd do

[heavy vigil]

split states like the vic3 feature???

[finite plume]

I've never played Vic 🙏

[heavy vigil]

why not

[finite plume]

I just haven't

Idk if it's good or not and I don't own it

[cedar kite]

You should add the Haida Nation

[cedar kite]

Vic 2 was like 3 bucks in the steam sale

[main moat]

yo

[safe wing]

HA

[heavy vigil]

vic2 is like bad

it genuinely doesnt let you play like anything

[fair horizon]

honestly it looks way cooler than the hoi4 one since you go from wood hulls to metal

the innovation looks cool

[turbid thorn]

can someone help

[finite plume]

Holy deathstack

[heavy vigil]

what with

[turbid thorn]

i moving 14 troop but why they dint goi

[heavy vigil]

its moving 6

[finite plume]

You don't have naval supremacy

[heavy vigil]

you might not have navy

[fair horizon]

naval supremacy

[heavy vigil]

are you even at war

[finite plume]

The channel's red

[turbid thorn]

ye

what

[heavy vigil]

nvm you are im blind

[fair horizon]

you cant move troops through water you dont control

[finite plume]

Knowing the French navy, that control isn't changing

[turbid thorn]

then how i gonna get

[finite plume]

😔

[turbid thorn]

how i gonna get to uk

[cedar kite]

French and navy in the same sentence 😭

[fair horizon]

admiralty? sic Lord Nelson on the french

[turbid thorn]

?

[fair horizon]

get naval supremacy in the channel

[turbid thorn]

what?

where is it

[finite plume]

He's probably better off trying to use paratroops instead honestly

[fair horizon]

you move your navy into the channel and patrol

keep in mind the british have a way bigger navy

they will almost garuenteed beat yours

[finite plume]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1131788077728280658/1248873451771527201/gato_agua.gif

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/rule-britannia-gif-4611085850072101161

[fringe shell]

yo what should i play

im kinda getting bored

[fair horizon]

australia

[fringe shell]

nah im still traumatised

[heavy vigil]

vic3

[fringe shell]

i tried doing wc

wq

[finite plume]

Milan got censored I guess 🙏

[fair horizon]

by what?

[fringe shell]

i tried doing world qounqeust

[dusky burrow]

if you ever see this you know you're dealing with a noob

[fringe shell]

or whatever tf you write that

[fair horizon]

as australia?

[fringe shell]

yeah

[fair horizon]

should have built a grander navyt

[fringe shell]

f it im doing world conquest

give me country

[fair horizon]

australia

[fringe shell]

mf

[tulip thorn]

Skull icon, low strength and low org. Seems about right.

[atomic grove]

haiti

[tulip thorn]

Everyone knows the Unicorn icon is the best for elite units

[heavy vigil]

if the next vic dlc/update makes my gameplay hard im gonna cry chat

[fringe shell]

commune or facist

[safe wing]

lol

[atomic grove]

fascist

[fringe shell]

im gonna kil my self but alr

ironman random all

unhistorical

[heavy vigil]

just play dominican, they start fascist

[fair horizon]

ngl im gonna have to do another central american run

[atomic grove]

haiti is peak suffering

[heavy vigil]

it has more core pop than dominican

[fringe shell]

they dont know what a train is 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[heavy vigil]

its pretty good

trinidad and tobago is hard

[heavy vigil]

you dont need to make them anyway

just like capture/buy them

[atomic grove]

u still have to wait 2 years to not be a democracy

u can only form the antilles

[heavy vigil]

same thing for trinidad and tobago

[atomic grove]

ok maybe

[fair horizon]

ireland :(

[heavy vigil]

ireland is OP

you get like 10 civs

[fair horizon]

wut

[heavy vigil]

8?

i forgot

you get a lot

[fair horizon]

i thought it was like 6

[heavy vigil]

i forgot

[fringe shell]

fuh

my only neighbor is dominica

and there is no ships

i have to built a navy

🙏

[fair horizon]

sorry the usa kinda blowed up the mexican navy

[heavy vigil]

when

[fringe shell]

they have army offense genius

[fair horizon]

wait im thinking spanish navy

[heavy vigil]

heck

[wide osprey]

since i'm unemployed i'm gonna play equestria at war tonight 🙂

[oak kestrel]

where is focus to remove agarian society for india

cant find it

[cedar kite]

Search agrarian society in the search bar as theres multiple focus to reduce the nerfs from that

[oak kestrel]

i finally found it

wasnt wjere i expected it to be

[tepid crown]

How navy?

[sly venture]

pray every 10 minutes that your planes will actually do something

or just gamble

both options work

[fringe shell]

16 july 1938

after 20 min

i can start playing

will i be able to take dominican republic with this?

[heavy vigil]

you wont crit

use line arty if you dont have gun 2 and you have the IC from 1 factory on it anyway

[fringe shell]

but this 18 width should work

[heavy vigil]

anything is fine

[late tulip]

damn i didnt know over 40 people can play at the same time https://www.twitch.tv/kamiokuu

[fringe shell]

lets go

now rest of the world

[fair horizon]

doesnt that do a formable?

[fringe shell]

yeah it does

now how tf do i get my ass to cuba or sum

[fair horizon]

make a navy

and some marines

[keen pebble]

im trying to do a very simple naval invasion on panama who now has 0 divisions but i cant get navy supremacy

[trim lotus]

Do those fleets have their home base set anywhere near the target region?

[keen pebble]

and im not sure what i need

[buoyant portal]

seems so

[keen pebble]

how do i set the home base?

[buoyant portal]

oh wait i think they are repairing

[keen pebble]

sorry im kinda new

[buoyant portal]

when you select a fleet you should have another menu on the left

[modest grail]

i got side tracked and im barely starting now lol so u dont want me to make any light tanks only medium tanks

[trim lotus]

There should be the name of a home port and a gear icon when you select the fleet. You can hit that gear icion to auto-select a home port, set it manually from a dropdown, or ctrl-click to set a home port (and move to it)

[buoyant portal]

it should have somewhere a gear icon, click that and it sets it automaticaly

[atomic grove]

yes

light tanks would be okay if china didnt spam a million infantry

[keen pebble]

yup that fixed it thanks

[atomic grove]

so use mediums

specifically

medium sp artillery

(the tank type)

[modest grail]

the medium tank says 978 days to research tho or am i using a medium tank from the facility

[atomic grove]

dont research it immediately

[buoyant portal]

thats 1938 medium tank

[atomic grove]

research them once they are close to about 200 days

[trim lotus]

If speed were important in HOI 4, light tanks might be more commonly used, but as matters stand, you're more often limited by the time it takes to switch recently captured railroads to your gauge.

[atomic grove]

and btw

at about the same time ur researching medium tanks

research improved artillery and improved radios

let ur researches finish though

[ivory hull]

inter-war medium tank chassis is fine

[trim lotus]

The above is based on the assumption that you have a DLC (NSB?)

[atomic grove]

best time to start getting 1938 mediums is about late 1937

[atomic grove]

oh

u dont have any dlc?

[modest grail]

no what dlc should i get

[buoyant portal]

he wants to tell you to make a medium spg

aka the big explosion icon

[atomic grove]

no step back

[buoyant portal]

its better against infantry (what china is gonna spam)

[atomic grove]

and la resistance

[ivory hull]

yea def get no step back

[buoyant portal]

+by blood alone if you want plane designer

[atomic grove]

no step back is for tank editing and la resistance is for spies for collab gov

[atomic grove]

oh right thay

[buoyant portal]

arms against tyranny, gotterdamerung and NCNS are not that critical imo

[trim lotus]

Absent the DLC, what I'd do early game is just use special forces divisions; as Japan, you should be able to make a 36-wide marine division with a bit of army XP.

[atomic grove]

dont u need gotterdammerung for special projects

or no

[buoyant portal]

arms against tyranny is amazing for small nations since you can just buy guns

[buoyant portal]

pretty sure not

[atomic grove]

yeah i told him that

also told him to make some offensive oriented medium tank space marines for the beijing front

basically a better version of the japan template that has those inf with a tank

[ivory hull]

making tanks as japan is kinda expensive against china

[atomic grove]

its still possible though

because i did

i told him to add 1 tank bat only

[ivory hull]

the chinese dont have good divs, inf is usually enough in my experience

[atomic grove]

and as the war progresses and he gets more mils, more tank bats

[buoyant portal]

am i stupid for never using space marines?

[atomic grove]

nah

[ivory hull]

they are very cheesy

[sudden thistle]

japanese civ and dockyard greed

yummers

[modest grail]

does this 7.99 subscription get me every single dlc

[buoyant portal]

i always found them so op and thought they just ruin the game

[atomic grove]

im telling him to make better space marines because hes a noob

[buoyant portal]

as long as you pay monthly

[atomic grove]

he cant beat china as japan with inf and cas yet

hes not good at that

[buoyant portal]

imo just buy the individual dlcs to not feel forced to play hoi4

[fringe shell]

fuh this game

fuh italy

[ivory hull]

why are we playing fascist haiti

[atomic grove]

i told him to

[buoyant portal]

i think he got challenged

[atomic grove]

he asked for a country to do a wc as

[fringe shell]

world conques

counquest

[atomic grove]

commie haiti wouldve been easier

[fringe shell]

whatever

[fringe shell]

another mf said facist

[atomic grove]

but i told him to play fascist haiti

[buoyant portal]

dont be upset since haiti and any other small nation w/o a focus tree is hard to play

[atomic grove]

i mean

actually no i forgot

haiti cant get manpower without marx

[fringe shell]

gng i played for an hour

i decided i will help germany kill italy

and i will take navy as reward

[buoyant portal]

dont help ai

[fringe shell]

but no italy joined uk and usa decided to join too

[fringe shell]

gng im aint building navy as haiti

[buoyant portal]

try a new campaign if you wanna

it's "winnable" but really hard

and time consuming

[fringe shell]

im aint giving up

i will fuhing do it

[buoyant portal]

good luck then

[atomic grove]

he asked for a challenge

[fringe shell]

but not now im hopping on siege

[atomic grove]

and thats a challenge

[buoyant portal]

😭

[atomic grove]

the REAL challenge imo

is uhhh

[buoyant portal]

the real challenge is the friends we made along the way...

[atomic grove]

fascist trinidad and tobago

u quite literally cant do shit

[fair horizon]

i like how you read fr*nch and being like okay yeah thats pronounced "glory" and theres no other way you can pronounce it, then you hear someone speak it and its like cleour and you have to wonder how they ever conquered europe

[fringe shell]

wtf even is this

[atomic grove]

an abomination

[fringe shell]

where tf is it

[atomic grove]

i dont think you would wanna try that

[atomic grove]

u have to like decolonize as britain

[fair horizon]

like someone explain to me how glorie is anything but glory and where is there a c or a q sound in there

[atomic grove]

and then release trinidad and tobago

i think

idk how to play tat without using commands

[fringe shell]

nah if there is land border with venezuela its not that bad

[atomic grove]

venezuela is stronger than u

also what does making a faction with them help anyway

[fringe shell]

yeah but if you will kill every citizen of venezuela MAYBE you will be albe to take it

[atomic grove]

if i were u id stick to the haiti thing instead of fascist tat

[sand heath]

Guys

[fair horizon]

venezuela can be taken over by a single tank div its that weak

[sand heath]

Is there a way to increase the count of naval invaders?

[atomic grove]

other than venezuela and colombia wtf is he gonna do

still no manpower

[sand heath]

Guys?

[atomic grove]

because hes not communist

[fringe shell]

research

[atomic grove]

what

research what

[fringe shell]

not this

answer

not this message

[sand heath]

For me?

[fringe shell]

yeah

naval

[atomic grove]

oh

[sand heath]

Ah, thank you very much man.

[fringe shell]

nah but when i will try again haiti what do i do after dominican republic

[atomic grove]

idk

i didnt think of it

[fringe shell]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-get-a-load-of-this-guy-look-at-this-guy-come-on-bruh-gif-18066748999193463069

[graceful citrus]

Hey chat what dlcs should i buy (i only have battle for the Bosporus)

[fair horizon]

i think he can core cuba

[cunning burrow]

ncns gotterdamerung and no step back

[atomic grove]

yeah he can

but besides resources

[cunning burrow]

and the italian one is nice for air designs

[fair horizon]

research the naval invasion techs in the navy gun tab

[atomic grove]

what can he do after forming the antilles

[graceful citrus]

Why ncns? Id lowk rather get la resistance or bba since i play those countries more

[atomic grove]

no step back, by blood alone, and la resistance

[vital cove]

that doesn't help

[atomic grove]

prioritize those 3 the most

[cunning burrow]

la resistance is only good for agency

[vital cove]

you need to kill Britain

[fringe shell]

i mean i could join a war like allies vs italy and i could steal navy

[atomic grove]

agency is very useful

[vital cove]

then release yourself as it

[cunning burrow]

if u actually want to play good focus trees atp js get ur self a good mod

[graceful citrus]

Cuz they’re like main countries right

[atomic grove]

ik

[cunning burrow]

also what is bba i forgot

[atomic grove]

no

[graceful citrus]

By blood alone

[cunning burrow]

oh yeah

[atomic grove]

no step back is for tank designer

[cunning burrow]

get that

for air

[graceful citrus]

Oooh

[atomic grove]

by blood alone is for plane designer

[cunning burrow]

no step back is like required

[atomic grove]

and la resistance is for intelligence agency

[cunning burrow]

ncns is good for the doctrine and the asia content is really nice

i wish they added content for austrailia

[atomic grove]

ncns is kind of the least of ur priorities

unless u wanna play kodoha japan

[cunning burrow]

td force 😪

[graceful citrus]

So first buying these 2 is good?

[atomic grove]

gotterdammerung gives germany and other countries great stuff

[cunning burrow]

no step back

and gotter

def get gotter

[atomic grove]

dont buy goe

[cunning burrow]

what is goe

[fair horizon]

slopyard of empires

[atomic grove]

iran dlc

[cunning burrow]

oh

india is fine ig

[atomic grove]

the one that barely gives iran anything

[cunning burrow]

but yeah

[atomic grove]

besides india and afghanistan

[graceful citrus]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3796290/Theater_Pack__Hearts_of_Iron_IV_Thunder_at_our_Gates/?curator_clanid=9948323 hmm

Steam

Theater Pack - Hearts of Iron IV: Thunder at our Gates

Step into the heart of command in Thunder at Our Gates, a Theater Pack for Hearts of Iron IV. Expand on the art of organizing a campaign with new features such as military headquarters and navy captains, as well as unique new content for nations caught between rival empires; Australia, Siam and Indonesia.

Hearts of Iron IV: Thunder at Our Gat…

Price

$48.77

Release Date

Q2 2026

[cunning burrow]

goe should be like 5 dollars

[atomic grove]

goe is kinda shit

[fair horizon]

its actually pretty good if you want to play those but yeah

[atomic grove]

and overpriced

[cunning burrow]

should just be in ncns

[fair horizon]

JOHN PORK I DO AS WELL

they hate us though john pork

[vague abyss]

Am I cooked

[fair horizon]

they let the czechs get their dlc first

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-gif-3829522220925690445

[fringe shell]

btw i have bought dlc sub it ended but and it is canceled but i still have dlcs this bug or sum?

[cunning burrow]

no

[fair horizon]

wym? you got an amazing navy

[cunning burrow]

ai navy is trash

js dont loose supply

[vague abyss]

mine is quality

[atomic grove]

now that i think about it when is czechia getting their dlc again?

[cunning burrow]

spam 1k ic destroyers

[graceful citrus]

How much will it cost tho

[atomic grove]

2026 or 2027

[vague abyss]

mines more quality so

[graceful citrus]

Better be less then bftb

[atomic grove]

i forgot

[onyx echo]

guys im new how do i make infantry im in the right tab no?

[cunning burrow]

yes

[atomic grove]

train button

[fair horizon]

i hope a million dollars so people cant buy it because im salty they took my australia dlc spot

[onyx echo]

does that just train my existing infantry?

[graceful citrus]

Q2 2026

[opal nymph]

Look at all the potential buffs Finland can get lol

[atomic grove]

i meant peace for our time

not thunder at our gates

[graceful citrus]

same

[opal nymph]

I should play naval finland lol

[fringe shell]

it train templete that you use

[atomic grove]

no

it trains a template

[opal nymph]

?

[atomic grove]

do not spam infantry the whole game though

[opal nymph]

Wdym

[vague abyss]

did u see how many capitals and screens they have tho

[atomic grove]

oh

[onyx echo]

im doing it for aushwitz or whatever its called the focus where u get to annex austria

[opal nymph]

Are you talking about recruiting or exercising divisions

[graceful citrus]

They’re getting released in the same 3 months guys lets chill

[atomic grove]

i thought thunder at our gates was next

damn

[graceful citrus]

April to june

[fair horizon]

ITS NOT FAIR

[graceful citrus]

Sounds super far away

[fair horizon]

IT WAS MY SPOT

AND THEY STOLE IT

[graceful citrus]

😭

Im actually so salty that i got the exact 3 integrated dlcs

Bftb is my first dlc by means

[fringe shell]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bhoRGJHLkcNUz7aKSn

[onyx echo]

How i make the infantry 20% to deploy

[fringe shell]

wait

[graceful citrus]

YO WHAT

[azure palm]

Finland just started a civil war between the whites and the browns and the russians also went civil war. This is going a bit too historical for me

[fathom shard]

auschwitz the annexation of austria

[woeful knoll]

Bro im so dissapointed

[fathom shard]

how do you not know this

[woeful knoll]

during thr 1930s japan wanted to make a central asian calpihate with the ottoman pretender as the calpih

but u cant do it ingame

[graceful citrus]

Is Anschluss the concentration camp then?

[fathom shard]

yes anschluss is a concentration camp

[graceful citrus]

Makes sense

[woeful knoll]

Mate

Let them train

just let them sit there

[onyx echo]

bro how tf do i make my army 24x bigger than austrias

[graceful citrus]

Can i see your army

[woeful knoll]

firstly you dont need it to be 24x

it goes down

[fair horizon]

make more troops?

[woeful knoll]

secondly austrias army is really small and they cant even trai nnew ones

by historical u will need like 13x austrias like 12 divisons

[onyx echo]

its so much wont it make my economy collapse

[fathom shard]

say gambare gambare

[woeful knoll]

so just train infantry uo

and make tanks on the sides

[fathom shard]

but i do have to let you know, it's actually "ganbarre ganbarre"

[graceful citrus]

Can i see the amound of troops you have

[woeful knoll]

its not that hard

[woeful knoll]

your econemy ticks up

army doesnt effect it

non cores does

[fathom shard]

also i tried saying it right after i woke up so i could sound more like sukuna

[woeful knoll]

the more u conquer the more it goes up

[fathom shard]

so just fair warning

it's a bit cringey

Ganbarre Ganbarre

[graceful citrus]

I saw this TikTok

[fathom shard]

skibidi we put the rhythm to the tism

[graceful citrus]

What😭😭😭

[onyx echo]

isnt this enough for 24x

[fathom shard]

skibidi we put the rthythm to the tism

[woeful knoll]

Dude this train infantry and it doesnt need to be 24x

Just make an army

And make tanks on the side

You have plenty of industry and manpower as germany

[fathom shard]

autism is lit

oh yeah autism is lit!

and you wanna know why it is lit?

oh yeah i wanna know why

[onyx echo]

my army is like 700k

[fathom shard]

because.. we put the rhythm to the tism..

[woeful knoll]

what year is it

[fathom shard]

SKIBIDI WE PUT THE RHYTHM TO THE TISM

[onyx echo]

1937

[woeful knoll]

you will get events to lower the amount you need

wait for them and click the options that lower it

it goes down

700k is enough but keep training

[graceful citrus]

Brother

[onyx echo]

what

[safe ivy]

Should technically should be able to do it in 1936

[woeful knoll]

yes

[graceful citrus]

Thats like 2 armies

[woeful knoll]

like antichluss is super easy

these hoi4 noobs bro

[onyx echo]

wdym

[woeful knoll]

yeah, thats def not 700k

thats the base german army and 24 new divs

[onyx echo]

it says 800k

[misty fossil]

You need more ships to anschluss

67 ships actually

[woeful knoll]

ok that might be 700j

idk where they were in that screenshot

[fathom shard]

i have autism

[woeful knoll]

hover over the antichluss focus and show us

[fathom shard]

skibidi-tism

[graceful citrus]

785k bradar

[fathom shard]

i am autistic

[slim idol]

It also says 70k of that is in training

[fathom shard]

skibidi-tistic

you're an ableist

[fathom shard]

skibidi-toilet

autism is lit

skibidi-tastic

skibidi-woah

[woeful knoll]

just keep the game going and use the events

[fathom shard]

skibidi-what?!

skibidi rizz em with the tism

[onyx echo]

what events

[woeful knoll]

u will get events about antichluss

[graceful citrus]

“Only counting properly equipped units” can i see your templates

[woeful knoll]

come back in 2 ingame years if u still cant do it

[onyx echo]

whats template

[fathom shard]

you only need 34 infantry divisions

that are equiped

[onyx echo]

how do i equip them

[safe ivy]

Shouldn’t rlly matter just queue up infantry when you load up and start clicking deploy

[graceful citrus]

The template of your infrantry divs

[fathom shard]

by producing equipment

[woeful knoll]

click the edit divison in the train menu

next to train

[safe ivy]

You should be able to just bee line it

[woeful knoll]

templates are how ur divisions are made

[safe ivy]

The focus

[woeful knoll]

they might not have guns

[vague abyss]

next san francisco

[fathom shard]

produce like 15 infantry equipment, 5 artillery and 5 support

[onyx echo]

this

[woeful knoll]

check your production menu

[fathom shard]

and you should get through it

[onyx echo]

it says divison has no armed ofrces

[graceful citrus]

Also show the reqruit & deploy screen

[wicked smelt]

yo just started playing hoi with my frind (with 1000 hours) for the first time

[graceful citrus]

Armed ≠ armored

[fathom shard]

i love it when you call me señorita

skibidi we put the rhythm to the tism

[graceful citrus]

Interesting

[fathom shard]

stop making troops

[woeful knoll]

go to your production menu

[fathom shard]

you only need 34 to do anschluss

[woeful knoll]

with the factories

and send a screenshot of it

[onyx echo]

i fixed it i got anchluss

after 1m infantry

and in 1938

[woeful knoll]

go to ur production menu

[fathom shard]

show your logistics

[graceful citrus]

furherreich 🥶

[onyx echo]

wheres that

[fathom shard]

the last icon

[woeful knoll]

the wrench icon

[fathom shard]

with the book

[woeful knoll]

and that

show one

[graceful citrus]

yo get those 5 rubber gng (it wont fix it)

[fathom shard]

yeah you're in a deficit in what you need for infantry divisions

produce more arty and support

[woeful knoll]

click gear icon and show

your production menu

[onyx echo]

im gonna demand sudetenland

[woeful knoll]

your not using half ur factories

[graceful citrus]

fuhrerreich, its too late for this bro

[safe ivy]

Is it still updated?

[woeful knoll]

just pump up everything you have the red cross icon on with your other 16 fqctories

[graceful citrus]

idk, it works

[woeful knoll]

put more on arty then support

[fathom shard]

put 5 more in infantry equipment, 4 more in arty, 3 more in support equipment and the rest into infantry

and once you get plane tech produce planes

[graceful citrus]

dont abandon fuhrerreich its like my favourite mod

[woeful knoll]

@onyx echo also if u havent done ur army focuses yet do the prussian legacy path for infantry buffs as ur not gna be making tanks

[fallen hearth]

dawg

[soft escarp]

What

[fathom shard]

delete this save now

[soft escarp]

Im germany

I di

did

[fathom shard]

yeah you better

[onyx echo]

guys whats the national focus to declare war on czechoslovakia

[soft escarp]

Btw the jellyfish guy

Got me temporarily banned in this server, And Temporarily muted IN THE ENTIRE DISCORD

[fathom shard]

you did auschwitz?

[fallen hearth]

why my screenshot aint going

ffs

[soft escarp]

i couldnt send any dms, Call anyone. I coulndt literally do anythign

dude reported my message 😭 ✌️

[fathom shard]

the communist with no critical thinking?

[soft escarp]

yup

[fallen hearth]

i hate italy

[onyx echo]

yeah and demand sudetenland

[soft escarp]

I was temporarily banned from using the Discord app

[fallen hearth]

great early game and then they lose to ALBANIA

[soft escarp]

Had no ability call, Send messages, React or even join Voice channels

[fathom shard]

do first vienna award and then fate of czechoslovakia

[soft escarp]

Thanks @viscid stirrup

[onyx echo]

guys my map became like this how i fix it

[fallen hearth]

well this is new too

[fathom shard]

F1

[soft escarp]

What country you playing as

[fallen hearth]

germany

italy is dead

in 1937.......

[fathom shard]

why is hitler mogging in this

[soft escarp]

Son

[fathom shard]

what mod is that

[soft escarp]

Road to 56

[fallen hearth]

age of 56?

road*

[soft escarp]

Cuz he is a Mogger

[fathom shard]

ohhhhh

[soft escarp]

🤤

but yeah, Fair that i get all that and he gets nothing

[fathom shard]

can you do auschwitz (anschluss) in rt56

[soft escarp]

when i dindt even start the argument 😭

[soft escarp]

yes?

[bright sinew]

so im like

[fallen hearth]

italy and bulgaria died while i couldnt do anything 💔

[bright sinew]

doing second brazillian republic, and im kinda having a tough time figuring out...

[fathom shard]

hi like

[silk fern]

Hi like

[ripe slate]

Did Italy go on a suicide charge?

[fallen hearth]

war with albania then france decides to ally with yugoslovakia, romania and them

(i play with no AI historical)

90% of the times austria gets guarantees and i cant anschluss them so i reset, this time they didnt but ITALY DECIDES TO SCREW IT OVER

[ripe slate]

lol

[faint fiber]

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve"

[fathom shard]

did i just hear anschluss?

[fallen hearth]

LOL

[bright sinew]

eh this stupid long mess im typing:
TLDR(of what i was typing): I am playing Brazil and I am not sure what the best army comp is for the resources I have

[fallen hearth]

worst part is that i cant anschluss and fight them bc im at war

[fathom shard]

hello typing

[fair horizon]

MARJIN PLEASE DONT LET PARADOX RUIN AUSTRALIA

[bright sinew]

I can't really make an air force so uh... was gonna just spam anti-air guns and anti-air tanks, but I can't make the anti-air tanks tho lol

It's like Manchuria all over again

[ripe slate]

Ive infiltrated them and will remove Australia from the map /s

[bright sinew]

only i dont think i can swarm america with cavalry like i did china as manchuria lol(... i am gonna see)

[fair horizon]

its better than seeing it ruined by a dlc 😔

[ripe slate]

Why so pessimistic?

[fathom shard]

hello gonna see

[fair horizon]

i dont trust people

[fallen hearth]

dawg.......

[fathom shard]

scary

[onyx echo]

guys im in war with poland how do i set my troops to auto capture im losing so much

[split bane]

Probably will be better than now

But that's not saying much

[fallen hearth]

considering the fact im at war against france, yugoslovakia, albania and romania

i think it really is

[fathom shard]

"auto capture" this isn't rise of nations bro 😭

[fair horizon]

somehow i doubt that but theres a small amount of copium hoping thats true

[fair horizon]

tell them no

[fallen hearth]

i did now im at war

[fair horizon]

alright murdericate their country

[cedar kite]

I dont think these decisions are supposed to show up in places other than Iran right?

[onyx echo]

so how do i attack

[fair horizon]

move your units like an rts

[fathom shard]

watch a tutorial bro please

[onyx echo]

what is an rts and how do i move them

[fair horizon]

ngmi

[onyx echo]

bro fast they are almost at berlin

[fair horizon]

bros gonna lose to poland 🥀

[fallen hearth]

LMAO WHY ARABIA WANTS TO JOIN AXIS IM LITERALLY AT WAR WITH 6 COUNTRIES

[onyx echo]

this is my first game

[fair horizon]

it happens a lot so dw

[onyx echo]

how do i attackkkk

how do i capture their cities broo

[fair horizon]

how did you move your units before?

[silk fern]

Make a frontline

Assign them to a general

[fathom shard]

this is a common experience btw this has happend to everyone in their first few games

canon event

[silk fern]

This is true

[onyx echo]

BRO

I made a frontline with 91 stacks and they didnt do any shit

they just got berlin captured

[fathom shard]

my guy theres only 5 troops on the border

[onyx echo]

yeah thta was before are you autistic

[fair horizon]

your troops were on the wrong frontline bud

[onyx echo]

BRO THE FRONTLINE ARENT DOING ANYTHING

[silk fern]

That run is gone

[fathom shard]

or are you

🤔

[warm thicket]

I ain't got much time to waste I am wasted

[silk fern]

Just give it up, I would recommend playing the tutorial to atleast figure out attack