hoi4-general

[lime mist]

And move into the middle east

[woeful knoll]

im mad there isnt a option to puppet italy

u either ally with them or dont ally with them

[lime mist]

In reality

The historical path for the german reich is best

[fathom shard]

depends

in cores?

no

[cold frigate]

how do i invade poland

[lime mist]

Two ways

If you go early before anything else

[cold frigate]

i did danzig or war

[lime mist]

You can take it without problems just a little fighting maybe

[lime mist]

Declare war

But

Put armies on france border

[fair horizon]

put your armies on poland, draw an offensive line

and then press the engage button

poland dead in a week

[cold frigate]

how do i declare]

[lime mist]

Oh

Did u finish the focus

And did it pop up something saying "they know what happens next"?

[cold frigate]

idk half my pop ups get deleted before i read them

[lime mist]

oh

Pause time when a popup comes

Look at danzig

[cold frigate]

i do but like 30% of the time i miss it cuz the button is small

[lime mist]

Is that space connected on the top part of poland

[cold frigate]

ik where danzig is

wjat now

[lime mist]

Oh idk

Ask someone else ig

Because they didnt accept it

[lime mist]

Wait did you pause timer right as it finished

It may need to count down a little more

[spiral gorge]

it's the best spain

carliste

[fathom shard]

spain iss such a boring country

[inland falcon]

people who annex slovakia are the same type of people to eat cereal without milk

[fathom shard]

theyre the same people that use their brains

what purpose making a slovakia puppet gives you

[inland falcon]

larp

[fathom shard]

define larp

[inland falcon]

live action role play

[fathom shard]

yuo pass

[inland falcon]

plus germany just doesn't look good with a giant schlong protuding into eastern europe

[spiral gorge]

You're joking, I had to fight against the US, the USSR, the Poles, and the Italians with only the help of the English who hate me, the Germans who had surrendered, and the Japanese who weren't advancing.

[fathom shard]

don't worry they'll get that piece of land called poland 2 monthss latere

so it doessn't look bad

[inland falcon]

yeah but i also just like having my little puppets

[fathom shard]

all that with the ugly ass modifier nerfing your country down to something worse than liberia's industrial capacity

(only gets removed in 1944 btw)

[inland falcon]

i'm pretty sure there are benefits to releasing bohmen-moravia or whatever its called

[fathom shard]

there is

but it looks ugly asf on map

its like germany split up into little empires

[cold frigate]

what is happening

[fathom shard]

your loss

[spiral gorge]

No, I have the game without any mods, by the way I have to import hundreds of coal because I have the biggest industry of all the European countries.

[cold frigate]

whoever told me germany was the easiest country was lying

[fathom shard]

now try doing that in multiplayer and see if you have the biggest industry

[spiral gorge]

Of course, it has nothing to do with it, the game would be a little more balanced, but there's no point in being a hater like that

[fathom shard]

my job IS hating

[cold frigate]

yeah this game aint for me

[fathom shard]

how many hours on it

[opal nymph]

Netherlands unexpectedly joined Allies?

[cold frigate]

3

[fair horizon]

i think i see where you went wrong

[fathom shard]

son

[fair horizon]

attacking divs lose entrenchment

[fathom shard]

some people do the same errors with hundreds of hours

[opal nymph]

They always join allies around mid to late 1940

[spiral gorge]

litle importation

[fathom shard]

lock in and keep playing

[fair horizon]

so your ones on the netherlands lost entrenchment

and then got pushed when their org was low

[cold frigate]

what i might as well get a refund im alr past 2 hours but if i go ot like 10 i aint getting my 50$ back

[fathom shard]

you don't need org for netherlands

😭 😭

they have 6 unequiped divisions

[eternal aspen]

historically accurate North Carolina

[fathom shard]

dude

what

[opal nymph]

2 hours is the refund limit

Isnt it

[fathom shard]

this game isn't some type of game you play for 2 hours and master on the way

[opal nymph]

This game is yours forever now

[fathom shard]

it takes thousands of hours

[opal nymph]

Hundreds

[fathom shard]

thousands

[opal nymph]

Not necessarily thousands to get used to it

[cold frigate]

they usually give u some extra time

i got a refund on a game wityh 5 hours

[fathom shard]

used doesn't equal to master

[opal nymph]

Hundreds to not die

[fathom shard]

read what i say

[opal nymph]

Thousands to master yeah

[fathom shard]

yeah that's what i said

[opal nymph]

I noticed

[hearty robin]

Is there a way for the Phillipines to become a state?

[fathom shard]

I got 270 hours in 3 weeks this game isn't for the weak

and 1.4k total hours

[opal nymph]

You can probably give it a bunch of convoys and annex it

[buoyant flume]

ez

[knotty vortex]

what’s the template for space marines

[eternal aspen]

9/2 with a medium SPAA

[fathom shard]

uh none

[opal nymph]

Don't use them

[fathom shard]

space marines suck ass

[eternal aspen]

make sure to max its armour too

[knotty vortex]

what do i use then

[fathom shard]

expensive and useless

[knotty vortex]

because i genuinely suck at the game lol

[fathom shard]

tanks + reg infantry

[hearty robin]

Like playing as Phillipines and not Perseus independence

[terse skiff]

Just use regular inf and tank divisions

[knotty vortex]

infantry never do anything for me

[fathom shard]

thats the point

[knotty vortex]

i cannot beat germany EVER

[fathom shard]

they hold the lines

[knotty vortex]

with infantry

[fathom shard]

tanks push

[terse skiff]

Line art suck and space marines are from pre piercing rework times

[opal nymph]

Uh, you want to stay an American puppet forever? Is that what you want?

[knotty vortex]

and how am i supposed to get tanks as a minor

[fathom shard]

by producing them

[knotty vortex]

it’s not that easy

[terse skiff]

Inf hold the line unless you put the supports

[opal nymph]

Special forces

[hearty robin]

Worked out good for Hawaii

[terse skiff]

Then don't

[fathom shard]

space marines are way more expensive for a minor than tanks

[knotty vortex]

i can’t get the production to make tanks

[opal nymph]

We ate Hawaii

[terse skiff]

Build good mountaineers and push in green air zones

[opal nymph]

We overthrew their monarchy

[fathom shard]

minors are meant to be hard

[opal nymph]

They didn't choose to get annexed

[fathom shard]

why is the person in your profile picture so tuff

[knotty vortex]

i wish it was this easy

i genuinely just never beat germany

ever

[opal nymph]

Use special forces

[knotty vortex]

i only did it once as the UK

[fathom shard]

as who

[opal nymph]

32 width special forces are just as powerful as tanks

[fathom shard]

germany issn't that hard to finiish off

[opal nymph]

Or 36 width

[knotty vortex]

france, poland, ussr

[opal nymph]

Germany has the funny mefo spirit that blows up their eco

[terse skiff]

No it's Amelie Lens, a famoud techno DJ, although she was only fresh in 2015

[fathom shard]

those are the easiest countries to beat germany with

[knotty vortex]

yeah exactly

[terse skiff]

who are you playing as?

[knotty vortex]

i’m bad

[fathom shard]

they arent even minors

[knotty vortex]

i know

i just like playing minors

[terse skiff]

like what minor is in germany's way except czech and austria?

[knotty vortex]

they’re cool

and a bit easier focus wise

[terse skiff]

dude wtf ussr is not a minor

[knotty vortex]

i didn’t say that

[opal nymph]

Poland(?)

Poland is quite strong though

[knotty vortex]

i tried as czech

[opal nymph]

Or can be quite strong

[opal nymph]

To be fair, forts got nerfed

[terse skiff]

i mean poland isn't that hard, just release belorussia and ukraine if you really can't do a two front war

[opal nymph]

Forts get vaporized easily nowadays

[knotty vortex]

i mean i can’t even beat them as ussr

i’m genuinely that bad

[hearty robin]

We have pirate nations yet?

[fathom shard]

no

[opal nymph]

Why

Play KX for Pirate Horthy

[fathom shard]

just produce planes

and build forts

[hearty robin]

https://tenor.com/view/sean-connery-gif-24917564

[knotty vortex]

it’s not that easy bro

i do this

and i never win

[opal nymph]

Pirate states were back in the 1600s to maybe early 1800s at best

[fathom shard]

what planes did you produce

[knotty vortex]

CAS and fighters

[fathom shard]

son

i mean the designs

[opal nymph]

Do you actually fix your air force as the Soviets

[knotty vortex]

but germany have some ridiculously strong units

genuinely have 1 tank div holding off like 4 of mine

[fathom shard]

german planes are asss compared to what the player can do

[terse skiff]

just follow a ussr guide by ppl like bittersteel

[opal nymph]

Like the 5 focuses you need for the Red Airforce to actually not suck

[terse skiff]

also don't feel bad about that, most hoi4 players can't beat germany as ussr

[opal nymph]

There is always Stalin Line

[hearty robin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Resort_(TV_series)

[terse skiff]

like you only see the crazy encirclements but not the studying process

[opal nymph]

Or if you are really confident molotov line

[eternal aspen]

properly historical Brooklyn Class

[knotty vortex]

it’s just like

160 hours in

i just get a bit bored of not beating germany

[terse skiff]

no, just build the standard 1940 small frame and you can hold well

[knotty vortex]

over and over i try and i just never do it

[fathom shard]

i had that much hours in a week

play morebro

[knotty vortex]

i’ve got a job

and an education

[fathom shard]

i do too

[terse skiff]

this is me on +4 germany +4 italy and without any air focuses

[fathom shard]

i just play at night

[knotty vortex]

i get good sleep

[fathom shard]

i do too

[terse skiff]

it's a 1:8 kd ratio with just 20 factories on fighters

[opal nymph]

That is definitely a concept for a TV show

[fathom shard]

i'm exaggerating tho 160 hours in a week iss tough

[opal nymph]

1 season show too

[fathom shard]

more like in 2 weeks but yeah

you get the point

[knotty vortex]

temple OS mentioned

[hearty robin]

Take over small island with nuke sub

Play Tall af

[opal nymph]

1. This is hoi4
2. Why

Play Easter Island if you want a similar experience lol

[opal nymph]

You at least got the omega baby leading your country

[knotty vortex]

you can play easter island??

or are you joking lol

[opal nymph]

I think you can

[buoyant flume]

i think i messed up a achievement run

[knotty vortex]

no way lol

[opal nymph]

You can release them as Chile I believe

[knotty vortex]

that’s awesome

[fathom shard]

yes

[opal nymph]

They usually pop up when you go monarchist

[fathom shard]

and you can get a baby on the throne

[knotty vortex]

what’s their economy like

[opal nymph]

Literally nothing

[fathom shard]

like a quarter

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[opal nymph]

You got the generic tree

[buoyant flume]

ima kms

[knotty vortex]

anything but a peru focus tree

[hearty robin]

And there’s a secret mission involving a time traveler trying to 💀 the German chancellor

[fathom shard]

which is better than somle focus trees

i wouldn't complain

[opal nymph]

Oof, what achievement

[opal nymph]

I swear, half the time I see you on the server, you want some wacky mod ideas to be base game hoi4

[buoyant flume]

cap germany after fall of france as ussr

[opal nymph]

Remember when the community rioted over East India Company

Over meme paths

[hearty robin]

I loved those

[opal nymph]

Oof, did you take out Italy or something before them

[fathom shard]

is not playing on ironman common here

[opal nymph]

And the game glitched

[opal nymph]

I like when they are hidden

And not go absolutely crazy right off the bat

Senor Hilter, okay, that is alright for memery

Wojtek, lots of conditions to get

[hearty robin]

I’m mostly here because I watch a person play it on YT. Communitybif theirs suggested eIC

Now they’re thinking hoi4 again
And people are suggesting Philippines

[fathom shard]

whats the best argentina path

ive never tried the country out

[opal nymph]

East India Company, you blow up the economy and get a company in power?

[opal nymph]

Wait, did you ever actually buy hoi4

I thought the last time you were here, you didn't have it yet

[fathom shard]

they be giving thiis whole ass tree to argentina but won't rework france's 10 years old focus tree

[opal nymph]

Nonono

France has a 6 year old tree

I think they got updated in 2020

Or was it 2018

[hearty robin]

https://youtu.be/VZMEvfYvo-Q?si=sytcaiXXLd2U9anm

[opal nymph]

2020

[fathom shard]

la resistance expansion was 2020

[terse skiff]

but the spy mechanic was from a mod that came out much earlier

[fathom shard]

but why would you leave a major with a 6 year old focus tree and make countries like iraq get a goated focus tree

[opal nymph]

Is this one of the raw footage youtubers

[fathom shard]

how do you not fall asleep to this

[hearty robin]

150 episodes of 20ish minutes of EIC content

[opal nymph]

Bruh

Id rather play the game

The problem with raw footage youtubers is that you have to watch the boring stuff

Like sitting for 2 years building up

At least i have the decency to 4x speed my footage and cut it up lol

Not like it is top quality or anything

[fathom shard]

i would deadass rather be sent to a random place in the sahara with not food/water whatsoever and have to survive there for days than get myself to watch this whole playlist

[terse skiff]

just watch bice hoi3 playthroughs instead

[fathom shard]

hoi3 is straight up schizophrenia

[opal nymph]

Check my math, if there are 150 episodes of an India playthrough, each 20 minutes, that is a 50 hour playthrough

[fathom shard]

east india company is also boring as hell so that doesn't make it better

[opal nymph]

HIS LAST VIDEO IS IN 1997?

HE PLAYED INDIA UNTIL 1997?

[fathom shard]

1998

and didn't manage to conquer the world

[opal nymph]

Bro

What was he doing

It looked like he released every tag and tried to buy the world

[fathom shard]

idk but he isn't the best player for sure

defeated the allies in 90s

[opal nymph]

Maybe he tries to go for the longest series possible?

[terse skiff]

did he use any mods?

or is he stuck at 1945 tech?

[opal nymph]

Looked vanilla from what I could tell

I couldn't be bothered to watch the whole thing

[faint fiber]

I made Japan...less evil?

[fathom shard]

who could?

[opal nymph]

Eh? Maybe?

@hearty robin have you actually gotten hoi4 yet

[faint fiber]

the fascism stuff is gone, and everyone knows theres only 1 right choice, Yamamoto

[faint fiber]

if I remember right Yamamoto was not as anti western as the others

[opal nymph]

Yeah, but he also helped create Pearl Harbor

[faint fiber]

thats true

[faint fiber]

but he didnt want war

which he was right that they would lose

[opal nymph]

The whole gamble was that the US would wimp out and let Japan do its thing

Fun fact, no

[faint fiber]

lol

pretty much

[sly venture]

BROUGHT FREEDOM TO IMPERIAL JAPAN

[faint fiber]

HEY! no touchy britian! that belongs to the US

[eternal aspen]

mfw marines doctrine is done before 1937 even started

[sly venture]

Threat 1# eliminated time for threat #2

[woven gate]

these marines are gonna deglove the entire world

[nimble hornet]

say wallahi bro say wallahi

[hearty robin]

I really just watch it on YT

[cosmic vault]

IM CRYING

Sweden is so fun to play

[eternal aspen]

Ikr

[surreal pike]

are you stuck in 1812 bro

[nimble hornet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/say-wallahi-speed-put-that-on-allah-speed

[surreal pike]

thoughts on constantine?

[nimble hornet]

uhhhh pretty cool

im tryna save west rome rn

[surreal pike]

k

remember dont flank

[woven gate]

what's up man

[surreal pike]

thats for cowards

use a meatwall and run right in

[surreal pike]

hi

[nimble hornet]

what could go wrong

[woven gate]

you called for k, and so i'm here

[nimble hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332472572855455786/1485823550370615457/image0.gif

[woven gate]

i'm gonna play Sablinite USSR in TNO tonight

[surreal pike]

wow

[woven gate]

and cry my eyes out because i love Sablin so much

[surreal pike]

here comes taboritsky

[woven gate]

all my homies hate taboritsky

real ones know positivity is russia's way forward

"be strong in the belief that life is wonderful" -Valery Sablin

[nimble hornet]

Rlly feeling the west roman larp

[surreal pike]

how much manpower do you have

[nimble hornet]

1.26 mil but we have barely any industry

and surronded by enemys

to the south

to the west

everywhere

[surreal pike]

is there arty

are there like ballistas or smt

scorpios

[nimble hornet]

yea theres arty

[ancient fern]

I was wondering where the Japanese army was... found it once I built radar covering the home islands

[nimble hornet]

the research tree wasn't overhauled yet

[nimble hornet]

"expell the barbarians revere the emperor" ahh army

[ancient fern]

I nuked all the ports from in Japan so they are just sat in fallout of both thermo and normal nukes waiting for the port to repair (which it won't cause I have 8k strats up)

Was about to nav that tile too lol

[eternal aspen]

nah, no clue where they could be

[nimble hornet]

and 1 divs behind them

naval invasion would be crazy

[ancient fern]

Imma just nav hiroshima

But nuked them that many times at one point my game would crash when I zoomed in on them (nuking them more fixed the issue somehow)

The thing is, I wanna know where the rest of their army is

[eternal aspen]

USA larpmaxxing

[ancient fern]

Just gonna try naving hawaii and find 500 divs sat their waiting

[eternal aspen]

do they control any land elsewhere, by alliance or otherwise?

[ancient fern]

Green is them. But nuked Japan at the start of the war so most places (even australia, which they had from decades before I joined the war) only had 2 divs

[eternal aspen]

there will be roughly 5 or more divs on ceylon

[ancient fern]

Like New zealand is COMPLETELY empty

[eternal aspen]

a couple in new guinea

i'm shocked

wait nvm you'd know if they were in ceylon

[ancient fern]

The thing is, they should have more divs than 843 max

[eternal aspen]

true

6 research slots goes insane

[ancient fern]

I have 3k divs myself on the board lol

[eternal aspen]

holy crap

[ancient fern]

It is currently May 2024

[ancient fern]

Told a lie, there is 1 so far in Wellington

[eternal aspen]

so they'll prob have like 500000000 in auckland bc japanese AI

[ancient fern]

I took over Austalia, they had 2 troops over the entire subcontient

1 is Sydney, 1 in Adelaide

Like this is the home islands from what I can see (ignore the fire lol)

[eternal aspen]

holy Japan

[ancient fern]

They even have 47 million manpower IN RESERVE

[nimble hornet]

nvm were back

[heavy sleet]

is it ok to play without a dlc

[silk fern]

Yes

[ancient fern]

Normally best to do so if you are new to the game, less you have to learn

[whole canopy]

I’m using naval bombers over the English Channel but they have 0% efficiency, anyone know why that is? I have air superiority

[woeful knoll]

how

scraping the barrel + all of china?

[heavy sleet]

im assuming they dont differ away too much from the original?

[fathom shard]

false

[heavy sleet]

cuz im scared if i spend 200 hours just playing the basegame and learning it then going into multiplayer with all dlcs enabled ill get set back to 0

[fathom shard]

dlcs add interesting stuff you def want as a beginner

[eternal aspen]

how do i increase my goal limit? is it only from focuses?

[fathom shard]

start with dlcs

[ancient fern]

Apart from home island and some smaller islands, that only have those and All Adults Server. Just it's 2025

[fathom shard]

you'll struggle abit more but it's worth it on the long run

[heavy sleet]

theres no sale rn

😔🔫

[fathom shard]

there was literally 1 day ago unlucky you

[terse skiff]

you're really only missing nsb's tank designer, bba's plane designer, aat's mios, and ncns's faction quests. If you know how to use them they will help you be op but as a beginner you need to learn the basics

[fathom shard]

wait for the next one lol

[ancient fern]

There was 0 divs in new guinea and bismark....

[heavy sleet]

itll probably be in the summersale

[fathom shard]

nsb bba and la resistance are the only dlcs u need

[fathom shard]

easter sale maybe idk

or jst random sales

[terse skiff]

oh yeah la resistance's spies

[fathom shard]

and france focus tree

(which is 6 years old)

but who cares right

[terse skiff]

bba's plane designer is also nice to have since it means you will never lose against ai planes as long as you have self-sealing fuel tank and 2 armor plates

also gotterdamerung has special projects but the only one that matters is flame tanks and you don't need that dlc to have flame tanks

[fathom shard]

gotterdamerung is pretty

shitty

for the price

[vivid juniper]

Had a very good communist Argentina game

[heavy sleet]

man i dont feel like buying it i only have 10 usd left in my wallet 😕

[opal nymph]

Do not start with dlcs

Better to learn the game base and then add stuff to it

[fathom shard]

NCS should be 10 usd not 30

[heavy sleet]

rah guess ill stick with mods till a sale

[opal nymph]

PDX when they rework* 7 focus trees add give 1 mechanic

[terse skiff]

you mean break 1 mechanic

[opal nymph]

Factions?

Navy is a base game change

[terse skiff]

naval

[fathom shard]

i have ncs and i just have it off tbh

[opal nymph]

So it doesn't count

[fathom shard]

its juust so bad

who actually does faction goals

[opal nymph]

Why am I the only one who somewhat enjoys new navy

[terse skiff]

faction goals are very broken

[fathom shard]

what do they even do

[terse skiff]

they give you so much army xp and stab and pp and war support

[fathom shard]

yeah that isn't that usefull

[terse skiff]

and a guaranteed sea wolf trait

[opal nymph]

Give contribution points to do stuff

[fathom shard]

either way i'll say thank you to ncs for ruining the navy system

[terse skiff]

giving you 50 xp on day 1 is very useful

[fathom shard]

yeah if you have a faction day 1

[opal nymph]

Doesn't it also let the UK guarantee at a lower world tension percentage lol

[fathom shard]

aka 3 countries

and those are all majors

that don't need army xp

in the very beginning

[terse skiff]

uh no they do need it

[fathom shard]

for what

[terse skiff]

you want army xp asap so you can get mastery earlier

[fathom shard]

yeah if you're a minmaxer

in exchange you get a stupid faction mechanic

[terse skiff]

sure if you want to suck

jokes on you i don't minmax

[fathom shard]

yes because if i don't do a faction goal and get 50 army exp i suck

[fathom shard]

this is part of minmaxing

wrong

[terse skiff]

it's just playing a sp game

[silk fern]

one struggle

[fathom shard]

yeah let me just spend 30 usd for 50 army exp when starting

worth it

and also breaking the navy system

but thats besides the point right

[terse skiff]

ncns is also for the new japan and china trees

[fathom shard]

which are unnecessary

who even plays japan or china non ironically

japan is just the typa country you play to destroy china in 1937 and then just leave

because boredom has gotten over you

and you want to play an interesting country

[silk fern]

at least one person likes managing the ocean probably

what a lunatic

[fathom shard]

yeah everyone loves island hopping right

especially with the new navy mechanic

righttt

50 days to land on an island

worth it

[terse skiff]

are you serious

japan is one of the most popular countries in hoi4

cuz you do have to do all three branches of the army

[fathom shard]

said nobody ever

popular doesn't mean fun

you enjoy island hopping?

[terse skiff]

it is more realistic now

but you don't need to island hop

[fathom shard]

oh because hoi4 looks realistic to you

[fathom shard]

if you want resources like rubber you quite literally have to

or if you want to go and invade usa

[terse skiff]

do you know what island hopping is?

attacking indonesia is not island hopping

[fathom shard]

read

[fathom shard]

it quite is

though

you still gotta land like 3 times

[terse skiff]

sure just go back to an old version of the game and stack 3 oil tanks on your cruiser subs so you can invade san francisco from the kuril island

it was fun but everyone agreed it was stupid

[fathom shard]

who said anything about old versions?

we're talking about a dlc

[vocal sorrel]

Im crine an actual french offensive

[heavy sleet]

im gettin flamed

whats the best way to progress through the game

[vocal sorrel]

Whats your nation

[fathom shard]

playing japan like bmh

[heavy sleet]

like to learn about it

[fathom shard]

because its so fun

[vocal sorrel]

Japan/america then go thorugh the ingame tutorials

If you want theres official guides on yt

[unique parcel]

there gonna forget to defend the magiot line then the Germans are gonna reach Paris and it will be for nothing

[terse skiff]

try to recreate bittersteel's germany guide

[unique parcel]

I really want a girlfriend that plays hoi4 but no one I know irl plays it

[vocal sorrel]

It happened

[unique parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-facepalm-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-anime-gif-8141803197449171585

[vocal sorrel]

They were holding out godo for the first few months then got slimed after a big encirclement in belgium

[unique parcel]

what country are you

[vocal sorrel]

America

[unique parcel]

I’m 100% sure that the French ai is coded to lose because wtf

every single game France finds different ways to lose

[vocal sorrel]

Wait

Hold on

[vocal sorrel]

My playthrough had japan winning then guangxi and yunnan dominates china along with sinkiang

[unique parcel]

Asia is a shit show

[vocal sorrel]

I was preparing for ww2

A lot because japan managed to capitulate china but

The guangxi clique magically clutched

[silk fern]

iran what are you doing

[vocal sorrel]

ts historical right

[silk fern]

yes

[vocal sorrel]

oh hell nah

[silk fern]

and the soviets are an ugly color now

also because of irans bs

[unique parcel]

poo pee color

poop and piss

[vocal sorrel]

imma boot up a enw cabe

make axis trio super buffed

[unique parcel]

yeahh that world is gonna turn into the man in the high castle real fast

[heavy vigil]

they won??

[vocal sorrel]

hell nah

im gonna be america as a chalenge..

[unique parcel]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Man_High_Castle_(TV_Series)_map.svg/960px-Man_High_Castle_(TV_Series)_map.svg.png

this is how your gonna end up twin

[vocal sorrel]

hell nah twin

watch... america will win..

i have 1.8k hours anyways

[heavy vigil]

oh ive seen this in a WC4 mod

but the us was bigger and a japanese puppet

[inland falcon]

RFP type shit

[eternal aspen]

what is good for a division for defending islands?

it's coming to that time of history where the USA must defend its islands from the japanese threat looking to expand into the Asiatic

i'm thinking this, since i'm gonna use the phillieans for manpower

[opal nymph]

You get more org technically from having multiple smaller divs

[smoky prairie]

Molotov-Ribbentrop pact? what Molotov-Ribbentrop pact? (When the USSR defeats the Axis by feb. of 39)

[ancient fern]

5.67 million dead from the death stack in nagasaki

[unique parcel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1446808177982050316/1478764689188982956/attachment.gif

[eternal aspen]

i can fit 2 as my div is, plus the whole thing is i just gotta defend them and my islands, to curb their expansion before it happens

[smoky prairie]

No, I played as the Soviets. I just rushed Germany

[unique parcel]

how fast was the penetration of there front lines

or did you do it slowly

[smoky prairie]

a few months. I rushed them before they got strong. That's the secret to it. Germany starts pretty weak

[unique parcel]

did you go in or edge them a little bit before pushing in

[smoky prairie]

Justified on Poland with my first 50pp. Justified on Germany with my second 75pp while I was still at war with Poland

[smoky prairie]

Did it as fast as possible

[unique parcel]

did you lube your units

or just go in raw

[smoky prairie]

OK, that's enough. I see what you are doing.

You get what I mean

[errant stream]

i accidentally selected all of my fighters, including the carrier ones and put them all in a single airbase 😭

[unique parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-out-i'm-out-1-3-seconds-1-3-seconds-meme-sliding-gif-18353827383643920094

[tepid zinc]

Hmmm. How did I get this much rubber (dont pay any attention to asia)

[errant stream]

now i have to redistribute all of my fighters manually

[heavy vigil]

ok so

does the mod you use like

limit island combat width a lot

or is it bad

[viscid mason]

Hello Casey

[unique parcel]

my profile is hella tuff

[tepid zinc]

tuff

[eternal aspen]

it's... the phillipeans.?

that's my main defence

[unique parcel]

https://giphy.com/gifs/tuff-kraladam11-this-is-vapBjVJDwKOvt8YQpg

[eternal aspen]

because the islands increase their range, my range stays the same if they stand

[unique parcel]

I wish they added national communism to the game

[smoky prairie]

Sorry, that might have been a bit rough of a send off. But not everything needs to be sexual

[eternal aspen]

i'm not using a mod for this?

[unique parcel]

did you enter into Germany rough or were you gentle with it

[smoky prairie]

sigh

[tepid zinc]

i think theres a mod for stuff liek that

not sure what its called but i have it

[unique parcel]

what’s another ideological name for national socialist

like national socialist as in patriotic socialist

not fascism

[unique parcel]

tuff

[tepid zinc]

National Socialism

i think

[unique parcel]

I like national socialism

[tepid zinc]

kk

[unique parcel]

tuff name

[heavy vigil]

ohhhhh

[eternal aspen]

yh, mb i should have shown the full state

[woven gate]

GDP bad

[inland falcon]

this is actually a very cool idea

i think modders will also love not having to do that weird thing red flood does for it's regions

idk why they do that

[opal nymph]

Someone screenshot this

Someone ruin his life 15 years later when it shows up

[mystic nest]

this is with half my dockyards unused and spending a grand total of ten steel on army stuff

🥀

[heavy vigil]

what are u doing

[opal nymph]

Is this on the beta patch?

[mystic nest]

i have like twenty production lines of ships

[mystic nest]

no

197 dockyards

[opal nymph]

Beta patch might fix the issue partially

[heavy vigil]

I LOVE COASTAL DEFENCE SHIP META WOOO

[opal nymph]

They made ships cheaper i think

[mystic nest]

good

this steel is ridiculous

[heavy vigil]

CLs?

gun 3?

[mystic nest]

yes

yep

[heavy vigil]

downgrade to gun 2

[mystic nest]

ight

[heavy vigil]

or go to autoloaded gun

it will save abnormous steel

[mystic nest]

oh damn aight

yeah its eighty steel per preoduction line of cls right now

[heavy vigil]

like the final dual purpose one

[mystic nest]

thats js stupid

[heavy vigil]

they changed it in beta

[mystic nest]

what did they do?

[heavy vigil]

they remove dthis thing

they stopped modules costing steel

[mystic nest]

thank god bruh

[eternal aspen]

i have a suspicion about my focus tree

[heavy vigil]

but if youre not in beta CL gun 3/4 are unusable

[unique parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-facepalm-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-anime-gif-8141803197449171585

[heavy vigil]

theres not enough steel

[eternal aspen]

it may or may not be telling me to start mobilizing the people

[mystic nest]

found that out the hard way

[heavy vigil]

same as manchu tho

[mystic nest]

wdym

[heavy vigil]

i found out

[mystic nest]

oh

💀

[woeful knoll]

How do people find this fun?

[woven gate]

it isn't

[mystic nest]

late game allies experience

ten trillion convoys into the bottom of the sea

[eternal aspen]

how do i even use carrier planes?

do they just attack and allat on their own or do i actually control them?

[woven gate]

i think they do it on their own

[eternal aspen]

alr, also what's meta for paratroopers?

[drowsy karma]

#pets message

[mystic nest]

solo

but you have to train them manually

italy had nearly two thousand convoys a few months ago

[waxen citrus]

I just wanted a banana

[sudden thistle]

"small encirclement" by chinese standards

i think im doing decent too

[mystic nest]

i realised too late that i wasnt producing lcs

more carriers than light cruisers

[toxic cypress]

27 carriers wthout screens

[mystic nest]

yes!!!!

im so smart

[mystic nest]

dont forget the 20 bbs

who needs screens if your enemy just dies

[mystic nest]

funnily enough i havent lost a single cv or bb

since the start of the agme

cuz the battles end too quick for them to die

maybe this is the play

[sudden thistle]

a bit better

[mystic nest]

average china war gameplay

[sudden thistle]

its an expert ai mod too lol

i got rlly lucky with an 83 div encirclement

[mystic nest]

has anyone here actually played through a game of black ice

i took a look at it and it genuinely seems like its unplayable without a coop

[sudden thistle]

i got until the fall of france as germany

its a tedious mod

not hard

[mystic nest]

seems like it

theres just so much random crap to remember

and you get punished hard if you forget something

[mystic nest]

@fair horizon hey its a 2:1 ratio just like you suggested

[karmic viper]

africa in hoi4 is useless at least when it comes to factories

[lucid herald]

Be advised, everyone: I've heard reports that there may be a cyber attack on Discord tomorrow; BE CAREFUL.

[karmic viper]

omg your one of them

[lucid herald]

No, I just got word of this from a friend.

[karmic viper]

this frick happens every year

[lucid herald]

True, but from my intel, it's going to be a big one.

[mystic nest]

its good for preventing italy from getting obliterated with naval invasions

[lucid herald]

I'd still advise caution.

[karmic viper]

they say this frick every year

and nothing happens

[mystic nest]

this guy does not work at the cia bruh calm down

[mystic nest]

yeah

if the british have egypt

then you have to deal with naval invasion span

[karmic viper]

dog I took em out

[mystic nest]

which is just boring

i know

im saying if they HAD egypt

then yeah

africa has some decent rubber iirc

[sudden thistle]

i think this is good

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[karmic viper]

how do I stop my puppets from giving me useless expeditionaries

yall think I screwed over germany by taking the allies that give fronts

[green magnet]

is there any step by step playthroughs i can watch?

these tutorials are not working for me

[eternal aspen]

what's the trigger for the stalin speach?

bc it just triggered

[misty fossil]

how the hell do you get custom player names

[misty fossil]

mine is just player

[karmic viper]

k

[misty fossil]

try this? not sure if its what ur looking for

[eternal aspen]

when you are in main menu is shows

[misty fossil]

hm

[upbeat tundra]

me when

[eternal aspen]

pre-war sherman production

i'll let y'all know how that changes once i get my full industry going

i also got 5 mils on M5A1's

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/clock-closet-gif-21176249

[karmic viper]

a

[karmic viper]

its all shermans

always has been

[primal timber]

rommel watching 5,000 shermans blast through algiers

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-crazy-crazy-ishowspeed-speed-crashing-out-gif-13267980027367138180

[karmic viper]

pov japan taking 10 years to take china

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-tails-knuckles-freaky-gif-12830799583270855342

[primal timber]

support '30
looks inside
1918

[eternal aspen]

i think i get navy now

[eternal aspen]

i'm ab to get more

though i doubt i'd need it

my marines alone can solo japan

and i have 8

[long spruce]

i dont think this is the russia i wanted

[misty fossil]

m67

six seven

[eternal aspen]

i hope you go missing and the CIA says it was to get out of public view

/j

[misty fossil]

me when people fall for bait

[eternal aspen]

japan when it still hasn't

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-18338667365126853250

[eternal aspen]

should i make an obstacle removal sherman for funnies?

japan has 80 ships left

i left that much of a mark on them

[misty fossil]

reduce that to 2

[primal timber]

lore accurate sweden

[primal timber]

they aren't selling any so this is the next best thing

[void cedar]

Anyone wanna play some hoi4?

[primal timber]

spain is doing absolutely terrible today

[slow vortex]

hey guys Im new what should my 1st mod be

[void cedar]

@slow vortex Me and my friend wanna do a modded game if you are interested

[slow vortex]

Im in the middle of work lmao

[unique jackal]

Anyone know the fastest way to unify China with the dlc?

[slow vortex]

but thanks for offering

[inland falcon]

you asshole!

i saved this MFs whole ass country and he's pissing all over me like this!

[heavy sleet]

the ethiopia beginner horrors

[inland falcon]

Hey hearts of Iron 4 devs, please add an option to brutally murder Manuel Azaña, I think that would be pretty cool

[limpid field]

did they add new turkey focuses

[north merlin]

is there any way to just let an army division to go places wehre there's a lot of supply? i js beat france and pretty much all my troops are out of them but i have like 18 different divisions, how do i do that?

[lilac ginkgo]

It will get supplied as long as its connected to a supply hub or near one

[north merlin]

the problem is, that they are rn near a place with zero supplies, i don't want to move them 4 by 4 to places where there are supplies ;-; thats a lot of work

[lilac ginkgo]

For example just leave them on standby anywhere in Europe that you own and you ll get supplied as long as you have the manpower and equipment

[lilac ginkgo]

You can build railways,connect a railway to a supply hub and upgrade it, and they ll get supplied

[north merlin]

ah ok

[lilac ginkgo]

You can also use trucks to transport the supply faster but you still need railways and a supply hub

Or try to move your units to the nearest supply hub

[tepid zinc]

too ez

dont ask why theres a SSSR enclave in asia

[lilac ginkgo]

it this mp

or did you just only invade poland and russia

[tepid zinc]

okay so turkey refused a compromise for the bosperous

the USSR invaded turkey and romania

[lilac ginkgo]

so its mp

[tepid zinc]

is very complicated

[lilac ginkgo]

And britian is decolonized for some reason

They love jordan apparently

[tepid zinc]

yea britain went communist

[lilac ginkgo]

and they ve got jordan out of all places

the true british stronghold

[narrow lotus]

I beat ussr for the first timee

[lilac ginkgo]

new London here we go

[tepid zinc]

jordan's only in britains faction

[lilac ginkgo]

thats good enough

its still british

[tepid zinc]

so im fighting in romania now

[lilac ginkgo]

noo

leave them be

[tepid zinc]

lithuania should've accepted my demand for memel

[lilac ginkgo]

hm

well

too bad for them

ahaha

[tepid zinc]

frfr

[lilac ginkgo]

i bet they didnt realize Germany has space marines and some ufo shaped tanks

ahaha

[tepid zinc]

when you have enough troops, you win

[lilac ginkgo]

i know

But its also about quality

[tepid zinc]

the only quality i got was some logistic companies

[lilac ginkgo]

How did bro win with a block of standard infantry

Were your enemies that shit

[tepid zinc]

Air.

[lilac ginkgo]

God damm

[tepid zinc]

yeah i took the dutch east indes early so.

[lilac ginkgo]

I dont even know that much about air because i aint got the dlcs so i run on hopes and prayers

[tepid zinc]

hehe plaen go vroom

[lilac ginkgo]

i know how to build a decent airforce but shit it sucks being stuck to some ass design

the game gives you

[tepid zinc]

meh im doing pretty good with it considering i have ~1,300 hours

[lilac ginkgo]

dont know if I should say this but i bought the subscription once and i was still left with some dlcs after it ended but i reinstalled the game and i lost em

i gotta save up and buy the dlcs on god

[tepid zinc]

rip

[lilac ginkgo]

ive got like half that but i usually steamroll the ai

[tepid zinc]

just do NOT buy "GOE"

[lilac ginkgo]

Im buying them all

[tepid zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-no-no-no-gif-15094791629266170630

[lilac ginkgo]

Theres a bundle thats like 200eur but it usually goes for sale to like 80 that gives you everything

[tepid zinc]

NO DONT DO IT

[lilac ginkgo]

thats far cheaper

[tepid zinc]

alr

[lilac ginkgo]

than buying shit individually

Also why would I not buy it

[tepid zinc]

just dont go indivisually buy "GOE"

[lilac ginkgo]

Its included in the bundle i guess

[tepid zinc]

Look at the reviews

[opal nymph]

Only mostly?

[lilac ginkgo]

Well i dont give a shit about the middle east and it won't affect my gameplay

[opal nymph]

I thought recent was still overwhelmingly

[opal nymph]

Haha, if you have it, now you have the Iraqi front to deal with for about 35 days

And Iran front

Mostly meaningless

[tepid zinc]

played iran once, started crashing out in ~1940

[lilac ginkgo]

If i ever want to suffer ill play as Afghanistan and get myself into a civilwar then spend another 4 hours to get 10 factories

[opal nymph]

(Dont buy the DLC)

[opal nymph]

Afghanistan civil war sucks

[lilac ginkgo]

As i said,theres a bundle that gives me everything for around 80 euros when its on sale

[opal nymph]

Like it is painful

[lilac ginkgo]

So its a steal

[lilac ginkgo]

I know

[opal nymph]

Honestly, not the worst

But the subscription exists

[tepid zinc]

okay buy it 👍

[lilac ginkgo]

I bought it once but its not worth it

[opal nymph]

If you plan to play for more than a year and a half, get the bundle

[tepid zinc]

yeah but buying it permanently is more effective in the long run

[opal nymph]

I know

[lilac ginkgo]

I already have more than that and ill keep going

I always either played wirh someone that had dlcs or i used mods

[tepid zinc]

Europe in Flames is kinda fire

[lilac ginkgo]

I usually play rt56 if i want something close to vanilla but with good focus trees

Then theres twr that i love

Kaiserredux

Tfr

Old tno

[tepid zinc]

i gotta go to sleep i got school in the morning ):<

[lilac ginkgo]

Alright good night and sleep well

[tepid zinc]

gn

[lilac ginkgo]

Its 7am for me i guess

But i got school from 1 to 8pm

Gn

[warm thicket]

It's 1 am and I'm wasted

[lilac ginkgo]

Wasted as in drunk

Or just tired

And why arent you playing on the newest version of hoi4

[warm thicket]

Just tired I don't sleep well anymore

I don't know I accidentally installed a beta patch because I don't understand steam menuing

[lilac ginkgo]

I can help

There should be a gear icon on the right

Let me open steam and see

[lilac ginkgo]

Yeah click on the gear icon next to your total hours played

[warm thicket]

Thank you

[lilac ginkgo]

Click properties

And game versions and beta

And use the default one

[warm thicket]

Ok will do

[north merlin]

is there a good template for paratroopers?

[lilac ginkgo]

Well just use a normal 3x3 i guess it doesnt matter all that much imo

But i am wrong

Id say

[opal nymph]

18 widths paras are alright

[lilac ginkgo]

So a 3x3 works

[opal nymph]

2 widths is all you need to capitulate france

So literally 1 battalion paratroopers

[lilac ginkgo]

Yeah but for Britain that wont work

[opal nymph]

If you want to actually use them in combat, use 3x3s at least

So 18 widths or higher if planning to attack

[lilac ginkgo]

I assume you have more hours, is it fine if i use the same template for paratroopers from my infantry

I got a decent infantry template and i dont think some 3x3s can defeat stacked British provinces because sometimes they just got alot of troops in places

[opal nymph]

Make sure your support companies can be paradropped

[lilac ginkgo]

Yeay

H

[opal nymph]

Flame tanks for example cannot

[lilac ginkgo]

I know

I dont use flametanks for infantry

[opal nymph]

Maybe light ones, but I doubt it

[north merlin]

ok

[lilac ginkgo]

Ive got radio support,logistics,engineers and normal recon

[opal nymph]

You'd need airborne recon or use cav recon

I assume normal recon is cav recon

[north merlin]

also how do u get naval dominance, i set my fleet to naval invassion support but it's not getting any

[lilac ginkgo]

yesh cavalry recon

[opal nymph]

Because you need to patrol

[lilac ginkgo]

Yeay

[opal nymph]

Patrolling gives supremacy

[lilac ginkgo]

Thats if you have a good navy

[north merlin]

oh ok

[opal nymph]

Naval invasion support i believe is a mixture between strike force and convoy escort*

[lilac ginkgo]

Patrolling in enemy sea with a bad navy will just get it destroyed if im not wrong

[opal nymph]

AI can't use the new navy, so it is actually barely an inconvenience

[lilac ginkgo]

Well

[opal nymph]

But recent beta patch might have changed things

[lilac ginkgo]

If you dont know how to build navy and the enemy has its standard starting one you ll still lose

[wooden agate]

see AI is human after all, it can't use navy

just like us

[opal nymph]

Well you really just need 2 fleets

A patrol fleet and a strike fleet

[lilac ginkgo]

Well depends

[opal nymph]

The strike fleet can also be used to patrol

[lilac ginkgo]

Theres britain

[wooden agate]

And a raiding fleet?

[maiden bolt]

Grown ass man saying we'll depends 😭

[opal nymph]

So death stack continues to win

[wooden agate]

and a convoy protection fleet?

[wooden agate]

Good good

[lilac ginkgo]

Is that a problem

[opal nymph]

Who needs to protect convoys, go for the kill

Prevent your convoys from being raided by ending the war

[maiden bolt]

Grown ass man saying is that a problem 😭

[mellow parrot]

Holding the cost of China with Japan repeatedly naval invading empty lands just to get encircled is peak

[lilac ginkgo]

0/10 ragebait

[wooden agate]

Thats what you use paratroopers for

[opal nymph]

Level 5 AA in Britain hurts

42 ships can easily gain supremacy in the channel when patrolling at once

[mellow parrot]

Also, hello.

[opal nymph]

That is basically the kriegsmarine surface fleet if you let everything in the production menu complete

The UK only sends some screens which you vaporize

[lilac ginkgo]

Thats really untrue

[opal nymph]

Then a portion of the home fleet comes out, but you have the bigger fleet, so you win that

And by that time, you have supremacy to launch the invasion

Continue patrolling to keep your convoys alive

[lilac ginkgo]

I dont know how to build a navy because i actually really cant without the dlcs so i just sent my whole navy to the English channel and it was destroyed by what the brits had

as germany

i dont think some screening ships do that

[opal nymph]

Maybe the AI became smarter at using navy in recent patches

[lilac ginkgo]

Maybe

[opal nymph]

For a few weeks it was really dumb

[lilac ginkgo]

Because they had double my navy

[opal nymph]

Like I obliterated the Japanese navy with 8 task forces that had 1 escort carrier, 1 spotting heavy cruiser, and some destroyers as the US

[lilac ginkgo]

Well i guess it was broken when they added the new one maybe

[opal nymph]

They vaporized the screens to where the Japanese couldn't make a good enough strike force

[mellow parrot]

Are Assault Battallions actually worth putting on my Chinese divisions?

I haven't even realized these were a thing until I looked at the specific focus that gives them lol

[lilac ginkgo]

No just use normal infantry

I guess anything the game gives you is shit

[opal nymph]

Is that like the stormtroopers support company

[lilac ginkgo]

No its just some shit divisions that you cant disband

[lilac ginkgo]

or not

Og

Oh

Nevermind

[opal nymph]

Extra HP is nice

Decent stats, but probably optional

Might as well if you have the slot for it

[mellow parrot]

Well as it currently stands

[opal nymph]

10 support equipment though

And you have the crap economy

[mellow parrot]

I am kind of recovering lol

I did some of the economic focuses first

Took back Beijing in early 1940

But yeah my support equipment as of currently isn't the most abundant