hoi4-general

[lilac ginkgo]

i never said it was good but theres virtually no competition

[heavy vigil]

true

[timber laurel]

the chinese in germany capitulate , the UK barely holds on in korea, the situation is dramatically worsening for the allies

[lilac ginkgo]

Other than some other crap wargames that make you either pay a buck or wait a day for an offensive

Hoi4 is the only game

Of this genre

[primal timber]

and you can make it even more genres* with the mods
-# *genres only apply to time periods

[primal timber]

i wanna know what the poles are doing

or is that hungary

yeah that's hungary

the hell is horthy doing in helsinki

[lilac ginkgo]

..ok

and then still hoi4 even if you turn it into tno or tfr or whatever its still the one and only decent wargame for any period in time that has actual armies and functioning modern economies

I mean hoi4 would work for the 800s too

Or like 3000 bc

[timber laurel]

they seized land during the soviet civil war

[thick kettle]

which somehow makes the game so laggy especially with such as Millennium Dawn

[timber laurel]

which ended in a fascist victory

[polar sluice]

I'm just trying to defeat Ethiopia over here...

[heavy vigil]

if thats hard, then why not beat italy as eth

[timber laurel]

the sovietgs had full control over finland

[lilac ginkgo]

Depends on the mod..i can play tfr up until somewhere near the start of the third european war with no lag

[primal timber]

interesting

[lilac ginkgo]

But millennium dawn lags early on

[primal timber]

and wait a second i know you

[polar sluice]

Excellent point

[heavy vigil]

youll see what makes you weak vs what makes italy strong and otherwise

and so youll be able to adapt to that if you play italy again as well

[lilac ginkgo]

what makes you weak as Italy is the fact that you re Italy

[primal timber]

truth

[lilac ginkgo]

Italy in itself is ok

[primal timber]

only the pope can save italy

[lilac ginkgo]

But that one benito Mussolini ruins it all

[heavy vigil]

hes pretty nice

he gives buffs

[thick kettle]

yawn

[heavy vigil]

its actually possible to do every mussolini mission successfully

[lilac ginkgo]

I can survive without him

Plus hes good in hoi4 but irl he was a goner

So i dont like him

[thick kettle]

britain and france are somehow incompetent

very

[lilac ginkgo]

i can comfirm

[thick kettle]

AutoSaving (get outta here)

[primal timber]

i still don't understand the navy btw because i saw someone on reddit from 2019 say that you should have your screens on patrol and your capitals on strike which is equally plausible with the old system as today's system

[lilac ginkgo]

I forgot about the western front in a campaign today and they even reached berlin as i took Poland I just pushed them back in one battle plan and i even bypassed the maginot because their army was gone by the time i reached it

[lilac ginkgo]

I hate the navy

I usually ignore it

[primal timber]

can't ignore if if you're not a continental power or even intend on naval invading

i just spam destroyers with torpedoes

[lilac ginkgo]

Was gonna say that

[primal timber]

and throw in an iowa class because i felt like it

[lilac ginkgo]

I usually build an airforce and paradrop anywhere

[heavy vigil]

what

why that ship specifically

[primal timber]

because i like it

[lilac ginkgo]

Iowa is his kryptonite

Apparently

[heavy vigil]

throwing in a bahia class into my navy

[primal timber]

true i went to iowa and they called me slurs

so i burned des moines to the ground

[lilac ginkgo]

Are you american

[primal timber]

no

[lilac ginkgo]

Do you live anywhere near it

[heavy vigil]

i share a planet with it

[primal timber]

im basically 3/4ths the world away

[lilac ginkgo]

Do you

[primal timber]

there's a giant ocean between me and it

[lilac ginkgo]

Same

[heavy vigil]

yes

[lilac ginkgo]

Wow

I learn shit everyday

Iowa is on earth now apparently

[vital cove]

oh thats fun

[lilac ginkgo]

How big is your resource deficit

Or why

[copper cobalt]

Steal the navy

[primal timber]

sir your plane will be complete when your child will grow up and have kids

[copper cobalt]

make bombers

[vital cove]

that's not the issue

[copper cobalt]

works every time

[vital cove]

its 25 years without resources deficit

[heavy vigil]

iceland?

[thick kettle]

doing well

[vital cove]

Philippines

[heavy vigil]

oh makes sense

[vital cove]

license

[heavy vigil]

why need transport

[vital cove]

-90% -25%

[heavy vigil]

you have navy buffs

[vital cove]

why do you think

[primal timber]

yeah we sent all of our factories to produce san miguel beer

[trim lotus]

I'm reminded of how B-52s have been flown by the grandchildren of B-52 pilots.

[heavy vigil]

use ship

[vital cove]

im gonna do the classic

paradrop france

[heavy vigil]

use ship

[vital cove]

I can't naval invade france from the Philippines in 1937 can i

[heavy vigil]

yes

[primal timber]

why are you trying to invade france as the philippines in 1937

[heavy vigil]

youre not using your boats well enough

[vital cove]

i don't have no boats in 1936

[vital cove]

because its france?

[lilac ginkgo]

-bomb the hell out of britain
-land there
-uk caps
-allies surrender
-seize French and british armies
-invade the us through canada
-cap them and steal the navy
-invade japan by befriending and allying china
-soviets already dead,armies go to china and manchuria through there
-push japan out of china and korea
-paradrop in nagasaki
-cap japan and steal the navy
-big navy now exists but its useless cause u already won

[vital cove]

killing france is a canon event as any minor nation

[primal timber]

there's a giant hologram in canberra showing this right now

[heavy vigil]

license?

tbh the philippines look fun

but like

[lilac ginkgo]

No

[heavy vigil]

ough

[vital cove]

in how long will they be ready?

[lilac ginkgo]

Stop

[heavy vigil]

yes

[vital cove]

with one dockyard?

[heavy vigil]

year

[vital cove]

and -50% dockyard output

[primal timber]

i live here but i have zero plans on playing it

[vital cove]

clueless

[lilac ginkgo]

You could

[copper cobalt]

Prepare an invasion of the straight of Hormuz

[lilac ginkgo]

Theres a path of the Philippines that allows you to unite the hispanic people

Then its gg

[primal timber]

convoy raid the persian gulf

[lilac ginkgo]

2026 all over again

[primal timber]

go my chudlings

[heavy vigil]

have this instructional image based on the philippine scout division

educational* sorry

[thick kettle]

capitulated under 1 month after invading them in April

[lilac ginkgo]

As what

germany

A month isnt gigachad

[primal timber]

give me a moment its in a romance language

[thick kettle]

better than nothing

i still have the Benelux to coup

[lilac ginkgo]

Why not invade them

[thick kettle]

too boring

[lilac ginkgo]

I mean technically europe looks very funny if you own most of it with no wars

[thick kettle]

plus extra troops

[heavy vigil]

its in anglo saxon

[robust vale]

Viva portugal

[lilac ginkgo]

No

[primal timber]

no its very clearly an esoteric form of romanian

[lilac ginkgo]

Salut

Ne vedem la căpșuni

Pe spania

[robust vale]

I mean, Portugal is a balkan country so

[lilac ginkgo]

It should have been

[thick kettle]

the joke is gaslighting btw

[lilac ginkgo]

Portugal is west balkan

Somewhere near Hungary

[primal timber]

i don't know man looks very

south american if you ask me

[robust vale]

Portugal is actually living in 2500

[timber laurel]

hey guys in a partial axis victory, would france be democratic but have demilitirazed zones nd war reparations or would they be a german puppet?

[primal timber]

define partial axis victory

actually wait you're doing that

hmm

[robust vale]

Germany sealions but didnt break through the french mainland defenses

Very part8al

[timber laurel]

france falls and the UK signs peace after

the north african front also falls

[primal timber]

so this is like if dunkirk didn't work

i'd say they'd be a puppet

[timber laurel]

what type of puppet?

sattelite or?

[primal timber]

what leverage does london have here

if they don't have any we're most likely seeing a harsher situation for the french

[vital cove]

ok nvm France paradrop doesn't seem possible in time

[fervent estuary]

How can I generate world tension as a non aligned nation?

[vital cove]

I'll just get the Netherlands

[fervent estuary]

It’s late game and world tension dropped so I can’t justify

[vital cove]

what the hell

just as i got the 30% fascism i needed for the focus i got event that gives me 3% democracy support

[heavy vigil]

LOL

[vital cove]

who the hell designed this they should get fired NOW

[primal timber]

i'd say most likely a reichkom

if we assume a lenient germany then probably a vichy france situation

probably roped into the axis with them

[heavy vigil]

heck

[primal timber]

a lenient germany is possible if they're trying to woo the brits into accepting the deal right away but

the french and germans have a very strong distaste for each other

saudi arabia petrol state DLC when i am tired of buying all my oil from franklin delano roosevelt

[lunar oak]

w run? (first try btw)

[sly venture]

wrong universe

[primal timber]

finland

https://tenor.com/view/eating-the-chip-chips-chip-eating-chip-man-eating-three-chips-gif-18885184

[lunar oak]

bet

[thick kettle]

soon enough the dutch is mine aswell

[near otter]

https://tenor.com/view/cortisol-level-gif-2410901269072201082

[thick kettle]

italy joined the war early in mid-1940

[lunar oak]

there you go

[quasi osprey]

[lunar oak]

[wide osprey]

what is this interface 😭

[lunar oak]

TFR

[wide osprey]

B A D

i don't like it 👎

[lunar oak]

naw its pretty good

its just long

started in 2020

but it aint that bad

[olive mist]

https://medal.tv/games/hearts-of-iron-iv/clips/mnQUlXVihDsMryX-x?invite=cr-MSxLUkMsMjg5MDE1MTI4 Yugoslavia changing 3 times

[lunar oak]

someone give me a good mod

[winged field]

u like fallout?

[safe wing]

Kaiserredux

[lunar oak]

never tested the game

[lunar oak]

already tested

[winged field]

ah nvm then

[safe wing]

You said another mod

[lunar oak]

is kingdom of poland a mod or dlc

[vital cove]

dlc

[lunar oak]

dang it

[fathom obsidian]

none

no need for dlcs btw poland already has a focus tree

[lunar oak]

no but to get the kingdom

i dont have it

[fathom obsidian]

how

[lunar oak]

assembly the regency council

[fathom obsidian]

yes?

[lunar oak]

i dont have it in my game

[fathom obsidian]

lemme see

[lunar oak]

aii

u wanna call so i screen?

[heavy sleet]

blaa

[crisp socket]

!

[lunar oak]

@fathom obsidian

[fathom obsidian]

this is the latest focus tree

its vanilla no dlcs

[lunar oak]

ohhh

but u dont have it too

i mean i can't see

[fathom obsidian]

I couldnt find the kingdom path tho

I guess they just added this and removed the kindgdom path

[lunar oak]

bruh

[fathom obsidian]

I only knew they added a focus tree for poland I didnt inspect it closely

[lunar oak]

so ahh

[sly venture]

this has to work

[fair horizon]

why aa tank?

[sly venture]

shoot down planes while fighting

also the budget is tight and we cant afford normal panzer

[heavy vigil]

its 4 tanks per batallion and youll lose a lot less

because of more break

straight up might not be able to pierce ai tanks also lol

[fair horizon]

i need to find a way to nuke myself as australia :/

[heavy vigil]

is that gun 1 gaming

[heavy vigil]

does new zealand naval invade

[fair horizon]

not to my knowledge

[heavy vigil]

after they get the 2 ships

[fair horizon]

the only person ive ever been naval invaded by was the usa

2 ships wouldnt have enough supremacy

[heavy vigil]

theyre cruisers

[fair horizon]

leanders have 168 supremacy

so it would be like 7 short or something like that

at least im assuming this is the same design

[heavy vigil]

literally transferred over

like uk starts with them

if uk refits them you steal the ships

[south mountain]

Is this good?

[fair horizon]

if only i could get them to go take tasmania

[sly venture]

they broke thorugh maginot

[fair horizon]

casey i just discovered vic 3 has a ship designer

i must rule brittania

[worn cliff]

is playing fascist china, building a navy and making it a colonial power a gem idea?

[fair horizon]

yes

you had me at building a navy

[worn cliff]

chinese golden age ideally i wanna realize it by 44

i'll try my best

[fair horizon]

im gonna be very angry for a few hours

[south mountain]

What???

[hot oxide]

rate my encirclement

(for context, im the central american empire and im working with peru, sudoamerica, paraguay and the US)

[buoyant portal]

just keep attacking you'll get them eventually since they are encircled and they'll just lose hp since they cannot retreat

[winged field]

the swiss cheese of suffering

[fair horizon]

anyone know if reliability matters for garrisons?

[winged field]

Man I would love to be Swiss so much. Eating cheese everyday, climbing mountains and casually knowing 3 languages

[buoyant portal]

pretty sure reliability only matters if you are on low supply

so i do not think so.

[fair horizon]

chat whats the fastest way to go down this path?

[quasi sluice]

Hi guysI have a question

[winged field]

hmm?

[quasi sluice]

sorry one sec

I bought the game with
la resistance,
battle for bosporus,
no step back and
goetterdaemmerung

I'm missing BBA, AAT, Trial of Allegiance, Graveyard of Empires, Expansion Pass 2 which has no compromiuse no surrender, seaplane tenders and warships of the pacific

Did I miss any DLC that adds to the game in my lists?

Anyways it's probably a little steep considering I'm just getting into the game but I was curious if it's enough to follow most tutorials for germany or other countries?

What am I'm really recommended to do either way to learn more (I already played a little and I understand basic mechanics but I'm not really good enough to invade like the USSR as Germany (Fracne and Poland still starting in 1939) because I don't know if tutorials help enough (do they?)

Sorry for the text wall xd

[split bane]

BBA adds plane designers
AAT adds MIOs and world market
NCNS adds new faction system (honestly, not really necessary)
Imo, get BBA then AAT

[winged field]

it's enough, only one I would consider is BBA if you want to design planes too.

[buoyant portal]

by blood alone - plane designer arms against tyranny - country shop Trial of allegiance - south america focuses graveyard of empires - middle east focuses no compromise no surrender - faction system and the rest are skins

[winged field]

Then there is NCNS which locks away the best spg doctrine in game

[quasi sluice]

thank you so much guys this is the order I should get them in?

[winged field]

which is like great but I wouldnt get it just for that

[steel zephyr]

🥀 no transsiberian

[quasi sluice]

Do I need to right now though? Sorry I'm quite new so I don't know if I'll end up enjoying the game as much I think I will so I don't want to put too much on the line 😅

also should I do the tutorial

[split bane]

Nah, learn how to play the game first

[lilac ginkgo]

yolo

[split bane]

No
Watch YouTube tutorials instead

[fair horizon]

why is italy's starting navy so bad

[split bane]

The official tutorial is hot garbage

[fair horizon]

like their capitals are good but the cruisers are just so crap

[lilac ginkgo]

Because that's how it was irl

[fair horizon]

i mean half of them dont even have armor

[south mountain]

Did I "win"?

[winged field]

why is italy so bad just overall

[buoyant portal]

BBA is pretty fun AAT is for the shop which is good for minors and TOA and Graveyard of Empires are only if you want flavour in their respective regions and NCNS has the faction system which imo it's pretty fun to complete objectives

[winged field]

xD

[quasi sluice]

Do you know any good ones that take advantage of the DLC that I have wihtout using too much DLC where I end up not managing to imitate it

[sly venture]

quitting the game if ts fails

[winged field]

what can you expect from them

[lilac ginkgo]

..ok

[fair horizon]

gonna take forever to refit all this junk

[split bane]

Hmm, I'm not sure
I think Bitt3rsteel has a good guide for Germany but he has all the DLCs

[winged field]

push more

micro them

[polar sluice]

I'm just starting out with the base game with road to 56, and man playing as Iraq is a drag

[winged field]

if you are doing just pure inf you need more tiles

or they will just kick you out

[lilac ginkgo]

Maybe because its iraq?

[quasi sluice]

Are those all the DLC that I am missing btw

[lilac ginkgo]

everything outside of europe is a shithole

[polar sluice]

but all the main countries have so much going on, its scary

[buoyant portal]

you can take Portsmouth with the mountains and encircle the ones near London and Ipswich

[lilac ginkgo]

Go golden square coup path(trust me)

[quasi sluice]

The problem with that is I miss on aat and bba toa goe and ncns maybe i should do a tutorial with just germany no dlc and then watch specific dlc tuts?

[sly venture]

ANDDDD WE LOST

[buoyant portal]

if you do not want to spend a lot of money just get BBA and AAT and if you really want to have the complete "new feature" dlcs get NCNS

[polar sluice]

With these small countries do I really just sit with time passing until I get enough political points to do something?

[quasi sluice]

Thanks! Thats helpful I think Ill get bba and then aat in the future if I like the game ! I meant are those all the DLC that I am missing or did I forget someihtng

[buoyant portal]

if you want a trial of the dlcs just ask someone to host a game for you, since if they have the dlcs youll also get them ingame.

[lilac ginkgo]

Or you can use a mod called Road to 56 because it adds decent focus trees that are similar or the same to the DLC ones, you ll just not have some other features that arent that much of a thing to miss

[buoyant portal]

the music and cosmetic ones which are not worth it at all imo

[lilac ginkgo]

Depends

[sly venture]

PLAN B

[buoyant portal]

This, since TOA and GOE only add focuses

[polar sluice]

This game is like being in an abusive relationship; I want to love it but it keeps punching me in the kidneys and face.

[south mountain]

I JUST REALIZED!!!!!

[sly venture]

THE BAIT WORKED

[buoyant portal]

how'd you lose that naval invasion i swear you were one force attack away from the win

[buoyant portal]

also why are you naval invading with mountaineers?

[sly venture]

they are not normal mountaineers

[buoyant portal]

mixed with marines or what?

[buoyant portal]

pretty smart

[quasi sluice]

im failing to get ethiopia as italy

holy cow

[buoyant portal]

dw once you get good youll finish the war in like 2 months

[quasi sluice]

I can get poland though in 1945 with 0 troubles

like almost 10-1 kill ratio and eveything

is ethiopia normally this much harder or do i need to play more different countries 😅

[buoyant portal]

hoi4 is pretty hard to learn and to understand everything that's going on.

[quasi sluice]

higher green is better than low green and high red is better than low red right

[winged field]

u can get them in few months

like its usually quick

[quasi sluice]

yeah im bad but oh well

i even used instantconstruction xD

ok i need to lock in

[winged field]

just make two armies make a north frontline and one from south and you can just battleplan it. Move all of your troops from main Italy there.

[sly venture]

actual brick wall btw

[quasi sluice]

oh do i not have enough infantry

by default

[winged field]

u dont need to make new just select all you already have

[quasi sluice]

how can i get infantry to go there its marked red as its not in my homeland

[winged field]

just assign them to the same frontline as the troops that are already there

[quasi sluice]

oh that works and then they go there

thats nice thanks

[buoyant portal]

when you start the game you see the red division icon alert? if you click that it selects all troops and you can assign them in a army group

though i would suggest holding click, like in paint with the select tool to select multiple units and assign them to a new general, then set a new frontline

[wind robin]

Does pirating for dlc legal?

[buoyant portal]

obviously no

[quasi sluice]

Lets go im cooking

[wide osprey]

yo attack pls

[heavy vigil]

no

[wide osprey]

🙂

[wind robin]

And spend 300 dollars?

[buoyant portal]

very legal

[wind robin]

No

[sly venture]

level 100 fort btw

[wide osprey]

attack 🙂

[winged field]

tf u mean lvl 100 😭

[quasi sluice]

whats a good time to have invaded ethiopia

[sly venture]

i did they deflected it and counter attacked

[wide osprey]

and that was a plan!

[quasi sluice]

how do i have struggle in ethiopia the losses are 1-6

[winged field]

move your air there too

and assign superiority and close battle support mission

[quasi sluice]

ahhh good idea

whats a good time to win

[winged field]

2 months from start idk

it shouldnt be more then a year

[quasi sluice]

nvm i thought i was cooking

when does the game start

[buoyant portal]

it's a low supply war

[buoyant portal]

1 january 1936

[quasi sluice]

6 months 🥀

[buoyant portal]

you're a beginner right?

[vocal bolt]

aight I can get one dlc

whicch one

[safe wing]

What do you not have

[vocal bolt]

nvm sales are over

eh its not expensive anyway ill set get it

[vocal bolt]

just the free ones

am between no step back that one italy and swiss dlc and arms against tryanny

[sly venture]

i got pushed back to france btw

[ivory hull]

bro how do you lose after this?

just send the whole army

and airforce

[safe wing]

No step back first

[quasi sluice]

am i cooking

[quasi sluice]

yeah yeah ofc

but im good at taking poland if i start 1939

[ivory hull]

2 years late on that

[quasi sluice]

i spammed that in the past

[quasi sluice]

bad screenshot its 1936

[ivory hull]

oh thought it was 38

then its ok

[quasi sluice]

yeah i saw mb

im really new thats why

[buoyant portal]

then don't worry about not taking 2 months

[fair horizon]

how italian are you? this italian

[quasi sluice]

this game is gonna fix my dopamine

[winged field]

romania starts looking delicious

😋

[sly venture]

LIVE FOOTAGE OF ME ATTACKING A BRFICK WALL

[fair horizon]

very delicious 🤤

[fair horizon]

equipment

[mighty zephyr]

They made liverpool the capital its over

[sly venture]

EVERYONE IS HERE

[buoyant portal]

winable

[winged field]

try to nav to scotland

u kinda need to win fast

or you are screwed

[mellow nimbus]

I opened my 3rd game ever and set it to historical and suddenly britain is fascist, declares war on ireland, nearly loses all colonies, and the french are about to become communist

[buoyant portal]

no way the ai is pushing you with only 6 light tanks honestly

[sly venture]

YESS

[winged field]

Why is Mr House rulling UK

I guess the House trully always wins

[quasi sluice]

how come these guys have better supply than me

i encircled them accidentally

[silk fern]

They have capitol supply

You have no guns

[fair herald]

Why cant I assign this to my fleet

[buoyant portal]

press f4 and take a screenshot

[sly venture]

now way in 10 thousand heres i lose this

[fair herald]

it says its out of reach but its right there in the english channel

[ivory hull]

when you go non-historical, the ai does the same

[quasi sluice]

whats capitol siupply

[quasi sluice]

i got u

[timber laurel]

guys what am i missing for greater italy? i have malta nd crete and corsica

[silk fern]

Capitol city gives good supply, you could get supply by building some rails from your ports

[buoyant portal]

they have better supply, if you hover over their territory it shows a crate icon (suply depot) that everyone has in their capital

[quasi sluice]

its dry land here tho

[silk fern]

Doesn’t matter

[fair horizon]

well it shows you when you hover over the decision

[mellow nimbus]

the hell

[buoyant portal]

supply is basically preventing a huge nerf to your armies so try to go for supply depots and to connect depots with railways

[dusky burrow]

hover over the territory

but yeah aussa only has a supply hub when it is capital

[frigid pulsar]

Does anyone know why my Battlecry achievement didn't count?

[timber laurel]

no shit sherlock but it doesnt highlight the states i need

it just says what i need

and idk the name of all the tiles by heart

or their location

[quasi sluice]

huh? who said that? must have been the wind

[silk fern]

Arunchaddle pradesh(i can’t spell it) in India maybe

Or the port cities

[timber laurel]

like where are these located

[silk fern]

Should just be Yugoslavia

[sly venture]

HOW ARE YOU DEFENDING THIS AM I PLAYING ON ELITE???

[silk fern]

Britain locks in so much better nowadays

[timber laurel]

i have the adriatic coast tho

[silk fern]

Do you have lbjuania in Slovenia

[forest isle]

Ticino - Switzerland
Corsica and Savoy - France's island in the Mediterranean and their border with Italy
Zara, Dalmatia, Ljubljana - Yugoslavia
Malta, Crete, Dodecaneso - UK's island in the Mediterranean, Greece's island in teh Mediterranean and i'm pretty sure the Dodecanese belong to Italy

[silk fern]

Little province

[frigid pulsar]

🙏

[dusky burrow]

these should be the provinces you need

[timber laurel]

i have all of them

is it maybe because im at war

[dusky burrow]

these guys are just going to continue cycle attacking until you are ran to the sea

[quasi sluice]

high green number is better than low greenr ight

what if its red

[dusky burrow]

so you may have to use signal companies

[silk fern]

Low red bad

High red not as bad

[dusky burrow]

green means that your number is increasing
high means you're closer to winning, low means you're further

[viscid mason]

Hello

[buoyant portal]

debuff

[quasi sluice]

my number of kills?

[dusky burrow]

nope

[buoyant portal]

ah wait you mean bubble

[dusky burrow]

i think it is a ratio between your organization and the enemy's organization

[dusky burrow]

yes

[buoyant portal]

it's the percent of how close you are to deorg the enemy (make them retreat)

when your division loses all org (blue bar) it retreats and the enemy advances

[heavy vigil]

you havent officially annexed them is the issue i think

hiii livadeia

[quasi sluice]

three years with cheats still dont have ethiopia

brtal

[ivory hull]

you mean the green bar right?

[buoyant portal]

yeah

i might be colorblind...

[heavy vigil]

italy bad

[viscid mason]

Hello casey

[quasi sluice]

i tihnk im the problem to be honest

[fathom shard]

Yes you are

[buoyant portal]

i also struggled a lot as a beginner

[silk fern]

https://tenor.com/view/benito-mussolini-il-duce-joe-rogan-exhale-breathe-gif-22513891

[buoyant portal]

you''ll get used to it eventually

[rich holly]

guys can i play Napoleon focus branch for France without la resistance dlc

[heavy vigil]

well yeah but its not a good learning nation

[buoyant portal]

@tepid garnet if you want a easy nation try germany: you get a lot of industry for free, no nerfs, and lets you experience the game for free

[silk fern]

Idk I kept playing Italy like 100 times till I was good at the game and that worked out

[buoyant portal]

shit wrong ping

[fathom shard]

romania is better for starters

germany means u have to defeat uk and usssr

[cold frigate]

whats the best conscription law for hunagry historical?

[fathom shard]

he can't even get thru ethiopia in 3 years

[buoyant portal]

UK not really

[fathom shard]

uk yes really

autarky achieved

[quasi sluice]

in my prime i think i could not sure anymore

not ussr

but uk

i think

now i forgot eveything

[fathom shard]

the best way for starters is to just make a bunch of naval bombers

[quasi sluice]

i have to admit i started 1939 cause 1936 is impossible idc what people say

[quasi sluice]

ah to not deal with navy

[fathom shard]

1939 is harder than 1936

by a margin

[rich holly]

can i play Napoleon focus branch for France without la resistance dlc

[silk fern]

No

Probably a mod for a napoleon tree tho

[fathom shard]

https://googlethatforyou.com?q=can i play Napoleon focus branch for France without la resistance dlc

why is that not a hyperlink lmao

[quasi sluice]

I can take poland out like 10-1

[fair horizon]

YOOOO

[fathom shard]

then it means you don't know how to manage early game

and you need to train that

because the ai does absolutely shit

and you get that result in 1939

[quasi sluice]

Idk anythinf even fighting is bad but with superior army im good at making those linds

[frigid pulsar]

🙏

[sudden thistle]

What

[quasi sluice]

I was again now idk

[sudden thistle]

Romania is just bad

Not even fun to play

[fathom shard]

simple focus tree and you get free puppets

[fathom shard]

opinion based

it also doesn't require dlcs to have a focus tree

[buoyant portal]

Romania is a minor and does not have that many resources

[fathom shard]

exactly

a starter would do jackshit with a major

because majors are the main battlefields of ww2

[buoyant portal]

he's not playing mp

[fathom shard]

dude

most players die by poland

[silk fern]

Romania has oil that’s baller

[fair horizon]

FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE AGREES

[fathom shard]

real

[fathom shard]

guy with 2k hours on hoi4 can't think for a starter

[sudden thistle]

Romania in mp is even worse

[fathom shard]

then tell me a better starter country

[fair horizon]

romania is garbage

starter as in?

[fathom shard]

opinion based

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/slovensko-caputova

[silk fern]

Whatever you think is tuffest

[winged field]

:>

[fathom shard]

someone that just bought the game

[fathom shard]

requires dlcs to be good

[sudden thistle]

Oil slave while getting ur land taken

[fathom shard]

nope

[fair horizon]

probably a major

could do a dominion if any get a tree

[fathom shard]

most starters get obliterated by poland

nope

[fair horizon]

make him play colombia

[buoyant portal]

imo if you just started hoi4 might as well play a major since it's basically easy game and have a lot of resources.

[winged field]

still viable even without them, especially if you go for austrian hungary path

[sudden thistle]

Canada

[fathom shard]

you can't form austria hungary without dlcs

[sudden thistle]

I did actually use France in 1939 to learn the game

[fathom shard]

you do nothing the whole game

[buoyant portal]

France is pretty good

[prisma saddle]

wich is better?

[fathom shard]

not for starters

[sudden thistle]

Has bro ever played Canada

[fathom shard]

yes

multiple timess

all paths

[winged field]

fr? damm

[fathom shard]

think like a beginner

[winged field]

thats actually bullocks

[sudden thistle]

I literally used France when I was a starter to learn the game

[fathom shard]

yes plain hoi4 sucks ass

[sudden thistle]

It did work

[fair horizon]

and just like real life you're protected by one of the biggest majors to exist

[silk fern]

As a beginner I played Poland and Italy a bunch of times and it sucked

[fathom shard]

not everyone is like you

[fair horizon]

i used britian to learn tbh

[fathom shard]

i would recommend romania or a south american country like peru

[silk fern]

I have 2000 hours and 1 Britain game

[sudden thistle]

I capped literally every single time bro 😭

[fathom shard]

because you have no threats and can do very easy wars

well except soviet union although you can manage that easily as you'll join axis

[molten portal]

why my ships dont reach there

[fathom shard]

click the little gear

on the navy menu

[silk fern]

Gear

[fathom shard]

and try again

[silk fern]

Make the gear yellow

[fathom shard]

paradox making shitty modifications

[heavy sleet]

how does industry work ts so slow bro 😭

[silk fern]

Patience

[fathom shard]

whats the point of not making the gear on by default

[winged field]

who should I go for next?

[fathom shard]

the more civs = the faster you build stuff

[silk fern]

I hate the new navy so much

[fathom shard]

in the early gmaae most countries don't have much civs so construction is slow

[heavy sleet]

this shit is using 11 factories for cg

[fathom shard]

italy

it's free land

[winged field]

alr bet

[heavy sleet]

d i build infastructure first or rush civs

[fathom shard]

as which country

[silk fern]

Civmax till like 38 generally

[heavy sleet]

yugo

[fathom shard]

build mils

from the start

[prisma saddle]

someone?

[silk fern]

Depends on what kind of divisions your using

[heavy vigil]

assault

[fair horizon]

chat i may have messed up

[heavy vigil]

thats not australia

[fathom shard]

probably second one for most situations

[fair horizon]

i wanted to play a major but like not a major

[silk fern]

I always set Austria to historical so they don’t do this stupid bs

[heavy vigil]

mission type isnt great unless youre only defending

[heavy vigil]

ohhh have you tried indonesia

[timber laurel]

are these good borders for a greater italy or should i make more african puppets

[fathom shard]

yeah ik but first one also isn't that good

[heavy vigil]

grand assault is meta

its the best

[fathom shard]

i know thats what im saying

[prisma saddle]

when i saw +15 org i was like wow

[fathom shard]

field engineering is meh

which is what i meant

[heavy vigil]

woow org

[fair horizon]

i have no real army

[prisma saddle]

yea

[prisma saddle]

yes

[fathom shard]

try the second one with grand bp

[heavy vigil]

org isnt that good

[junior ether]

after having taken france and spain while holding greece and the soviets i got para/marines spammed and pierced by the soviets. . . .

this is so frustrating

unfortunmately i don t have an earlier ss

[fathom shard]

theater of doom and despair

[fair horizon]

fine ill use the stupid allies i got then

[junior ether]

ah mais vraiment

j en ai marre

[fair horizon]

chat i think i kicked off a second ww1

[timber laurel]

what could you possibl;y have done to wage war on all of euroasia

[silk fern]

What is this, some kind of world war 2

[prisma saddle]

so this one with inestaed superior fire power?

[heavy sleet]

6 hours on the game still no war won

[fathom shard]

son change field engineering

[prisma saddle]

with fire concentration?

[fathom shard]

if you use line arty

[sly venture]

ngl when invading Britain there is a 80% chance you bullzoe them a 10% chance you have a bit of trouble and a 10% chance you are fighting a brick wall with unlimited supply

[fathom shard]

if you don't then keep field cus i lowkey forgot all of the combat support subdoctrines suck ass

[junior ether]

i wanted to capitulate france and then turn to fight the russians, however given that half of the world was communist france called in spain and the soviets AND the peasants of poland foolishly joined the war, widening the frontline, the soviets were already fighting the massive japanese empire in the east hence why i didn t mind at first, in the end i didn t lose because i was worse but because i dind t have enough hands to manage all the fronts

this infantry and para spam is so toxic man

[fathom shard]

communist france in ahistorical is a headache

[junior ether]

they were weak, i didn t have time to break maginot and had to go throught the alps which was much easier but i lost precious time

in the end the japanese were useless

is this what hitler felt at the end of ww2?

[fair horizon]

wym? just use good units and your planes

90% of the time when i see someone invade britian its not them having an issue because of britian having a billion troops

its because they run out of equipment

[sly venture]

yea but when am thinking that I will get destroyed am capitulating them in 1 month and when I think they will,get capitulated in 5 seconds they push me out on the ocean

[fair horizon]

probably due to no equipment

[cold frigate]

what do i play i played a game as hungary and it was boring im very new

[timber laurel]

am i the only one that likes making fictionnal scenerios in hoi4

[fair horizon]

either that or you're getting CASed to death

[timber laurel]

like what if the allies peaced out with germany after june 1940

[sly venture]

my logistics are on 100%

[timber laurel]

or what if japan won in the pacific

[heavy vigil]

why sfp

[prime marsh]

that would be based

[fair horizon]

yeah its not a logistics thing its a production thing 90% of the time

[timber laurel]

the new world ordeer

[sly venture]

OHHHHHH

I FORGOT TO GET NEW GUNS

I WAS FIGHTING WITH GUNS FROM 1936 in 1940

[dusky burrow]

TNO aaaaa europe

[silk fern]

It happens

[sudden thistle]

@heavy vigil is this meta japan start

i did the china is truly china setting for 🐑

[heavy vigil]

whsat

[sudden thistle]

the image isnt loading is it

[heavy vigil]

wyhat

what

what

[heavy vigil]

what

[sudden thistle]

there we go

[heavy vigil]

WYHY ARE YOU MAKING TRAINS

[sudden thistle]

autism

[heavy vigil]

blocked

[sudden thistle]

🥀

should i put it on something useless then

like guns

[heavy vigil]

idk im listening music and playing wt

[fair horizon]

chat can i recover from this?

[heavy vigil]

help is underway

[sudden thistle]

lore accurate italy ww1

[sly venture]

Mussolini’s counter attack

[fair horizon]

so many austrians

help

[heavy vigil]

the french are sending their best

[fair horizon]

how do they even have supply

[dusky burrow]

so many soviets

in any case

[heavy vigil]

capitals

[dusky burrow]

it's not that bad

[junior ether]

too many

[heavy vigil]

europe moment

[violet quartz]

your troops when you look away for a second:

[heavy vigil]

theres so many supply hubs

[fair horizon]

why do they have so much manpower 😭

[violet quartz]

good thing the chinese ai is too stupid to even exploit the encirclement

[fair horizon]

which one of them had 900 planes i thought my planes alone would win this

[junior ether]

i don't think the austrians are the ones killing you buddy

[fair horizon]

i already got mountaineer

[fair horizon]

well im absolutely slaughtering them but they're using russian tactics and sending their very everyone at my wall in the alps

i just wanted romaian oil 😭

[crude bronze]

how do i find the real the fire rises?

they are so many fakes

[fair horizon]

wayament

[crude bronze]

why people like this bro

[heavy vigil]

sort by popularity

[crude bronze]

did but doesnt seem to work

the fakes with like 4 subscribers at the top

[heavy vigil]

all time

[crude bronze]

whos the original developer?

that will make it easier

is it the one by junge19?

[amber matrix]

Japan is so easy how

[fair horizon]

WOO GO BRITIAN

[fathom shard]

smartest uk ai

[fair horizon]

I HATE YOU LMAO 😭

[fathom shard]

uk never lands their naval invasions lmao

they always get encircled

[safe wing]

Try fighting them as KMT China then

[fair horizon]

they did they just went stupid

[safe wing]

Vanilla Hoi4 ai at its smartest

https://tenor.com/view/special-dumb-dummy-gif-7068419121745449264

[buoyant portal]

"We need more men defending that tile!"

[woeful knoll]

Is there a mod that adds alt hist portraits

[safe wing]

Yeah

[woeful knoll]

I hate how your generals still have swatstikas as communist germany for example

what is it?

[safe wing]

There was one for monarchist Germany I found a while ago

And the fascist uk

In the last one all the generals have black uniforms

[woeful knoll]

you already lost mate

You NEED to micro as japan fighting china

And you dont have nearly enough units

[woeful knoll]

do u have the link?

[gaunt garden]

I'm so bad at hoi4 that I even lost the Ethiopia invasion

[safe wing]

Because the fascist UKs army is the royal black army after all

[safe wing]

Give me a sec

[woeful knoll]

wdym by loaw

lose

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[woeful knoll]

its impossible to lose as italy

[safe wing]

Unless your a noob

[gaunt garden]

I lost the invasion of Ethiopia and lost land

[woeful knoll]

no like the ethiopians literally cant push you

[gaunt garden]

I'm a noob

[woeful knoll]

how tf do you lose that

[gaunt garden]

I js relised like a week ago

[safe wing]

Or deliberately loose the invasion of Ethiopia to get the pope back faster

[woeful knoll]

did you not draw a frontline?

[gaunt garden]

I basically just used the African soldiers

Didn't put all soldiers

[woeful knoll]

encircled?

thats the only way i guess

[gaunt garden]

You know I just like relised a week ago

Like to put all of a army

Like all of the Italian army

And then push

[woeful knoll]

Also make sure u put up motorization prio

[gaunt garden]

I just did the 18 up north and 7 down south

[buoyant flume]

Why is Britain so annoying

[woeful knoll]

Insanely overpowered then it was irl

They have wayyy to many divisions

[safe wing]

Not only that their economy was in the gutter

[woeful knoll]

They literally couldnt fielkd a single new div in late war irl, ingame they can field an entire army group every month

[safe wing]

Their army was underfunded irl too

[buoyant flume]

It's not that is just that they like to bloody guarantee everything also alot of there divisions arnt even there's

[woeful knoll]

Genuinely just use console commands

if your playing a little nation

[gaunt garden]

Bulgaria is one of the most underrated nations in hoi4 oat,like they're democratic path is fun and overpowered (unite Balkans,rare democratic fun focus tree),tsarist path is fun,fascist fun is too,communist path you can also unite Balkans

[woeful knoll]

if your like germany or italy ok, yeah, sure but if im estonia and they guarentiee latvia i just tag switch

[safe wing]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1274586364&searchtext=alterative+general+portraits+uk

found a german one for the monarchist path

[woeful knoll]

ty bro

[safe wing]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2590975096&searchtext=alterative+general+portraits+uk+fascist heres the other one

[buoyant flume]

I was playing the Soviets I already took Poland and Germany was gonna go for Italy through Austria but France and Britain exist

[gaunt garden]

I just got kaisereich,the mod,when I start any nation half of the path I can't even do yet💔

[woeful knoll]

thats hohnestly realistic

uk wouldnt allow the soviets to take italy

but ur soviets bro just spam infantry

[woeful knoll]

Dont play kaiserreich play kaiserredux

[split bane]

Yeah, you gotta wait for them
Either you wait for an event or you finish your current tree and something unlocks

[buoyant flume]

I was going through Austria they guaranteed Austria

[woeful knoll]

kaiserreich is trash

[woeful knoll]

yeah same thing

[split bane]

That's a really hot take

[gaunt garden]

Why does the British raj even have a option to lose land when they unite,like there's a focus to make Pakistan a nation which just makes you lose land lit

[woeful knoll]

every nation has a focus tree straight out of 2018, the combat is slow, and i personally dont like the event moddle

[split bane]

KR is good
KX is also good
Just depends on what you're preference is

[woeful knoll]

also kr has no unique content for 90 percent of nations

[gaunt garden]

@woeful knoll Do you know

[buoyant flume]

I do not have the time or patittance justify on the low lands to bypass Maginot and to be in a war with UK for ages because I can't invade UK besides I'm doing a new soviet run and going for the achievement to cap Germany after fall of France before allies take a core and I'm also taking Rome as ussr for the next achievement

[woeful knoll]

historical

[gaunt garden]

It's just trash

[fair horizon]

yeah i still really hate italy

[woeful knoll]

also you get a nice buff if you split up india so theres reasons to do it

hegemony of the subcontinent

[safe wing]

do the kings path

[fair horizon]

i did

i cant fix the stupid balance of power garbage

[woeful knoll]

which path r u doing as soviets

[brisk glen]

Is there any mod that gives Egypt a Focus Tree

[woeful knoll]

rt56

[buoyant flume]

Normal one I was doing but I'm doing a new run to get another USSR achievement as I can't do it in the current game

[stark wedge]

😅

[gaunt garden]

I once somehow made the red world as USSR but I became the weakest faction leader of the Comintern

[woeful knoll]

sure

[gaunt garden]

Like influence

[woeful knoll]

my advice for next time is dont do the anti fascist tree

do the anti capitalist tree

so u can be the one striking

[buoyant flume]

I never did it I manually justified on them

[gaunt garden]

USSR is so fun on non historical and is 1000 times better as a noob

I mean like other nations turn communist normally

Like it's the norm and idk why

Germany usually doesn't even pick the monarchist path ever

It's always communist

[vital cove]

you should play the pope

[fair horizon]

yeah this country sucks

last time i ever touch it

[faint fiber]

are there any mods to get rid of that stupid claim opinion?

[heavy vigil]

hiiii haafr

[vital cove]

heyy

[buoyant flume]

I got 2 out of 7 soviet achievements I'm about to get 2 more in one game hopefully

[vital cove]

should i play hoi4

wait i know i wanted to play Netherlands

[heavy vigil]

idk i play wt and even tho like 60% or more of my playtime is being afk

[vital cove]

monarchist Netherlands seems kinda fun

[heavy vigil]

ive unlocked the first vehicle which i dont just like for vibes but also actually like to play

[heavy vigil]

do the thing where you annex INS

[somber agate]

the swiss are asking for a trade agreement when im ass deep into them 👍

[vital cove]

ins?

[heavy vigil]

dutch east indies tag

indonesia

[vital cove]

oh

nah i don't wanna cap

[heavy vigil]

you dont have to i dont think

[vital cove]

i might annex them later tho

[heavy vigil]

theres puppet mechanics

[vital cove]

for the focus you do

[heavy vigil]

just use your infinite pp

[vital cove]

yea
that just takes time

and no free compliance

[heavy vigil]

it gives state buffs for more manpower its OP

state buffs stay for anyone but just fyi

especially if youd do it communist with liberated workers it should be better than coring?

but the path is like decolonize NOW

so idk

[flat mirage]

I'm trying to do the achievement "Pride and Extreme Prejudice", which is to sink the British pride of the fleet. But the UK just never puts out their navy. How do I fix this?

I can easily build a fleet to sink their navy. But they just won't put it out

[vital cove]

what the hell why do i need the Germans and the British to have 50 points each ti go monarchist 💀

why is the dutch focus tree so stupid

why does this mechanic even exist

[split bane]

Because of... reasons

[cursive cypress]

yo is anyone able to hop into https://discord.com/channels/183787140671471616/727260126481744033 and help me understand some im also looking for some cool people to hang out

[knotty vortex]

is eu5 harder than hoi4

[woeful knoll]

yes

[knotty vortex]

in what aspects

[terse skiff]

The game recently came out so we don't have "meta" yet

Unlike hoi4 where a lot of optimal things are already discovered

[knotty vortex]

i follow the hoi4 meta sometimes and still lose

[terse skiff]

I'm not sure if it's meta

Like when do you start building mils? What do you research after the first three industrial techs?

[knotty vortex]

depends what im doing

i do just suck at hoi4 in general

[fathom shard]

everything but war

[vital cove]

oh what the hell

the path is is locked behind being at war????

wtf

i take it back that is NOT fun

[heavy vigil]

you can bruteforce a war

you have occupied colonies

[vital cove]

ig

[heavy vigil]

just an idea

idk if its offensive or not when that happens but if its defensive you get doctrine too

might test

[winged field]

who next?

[winged field]

Im generous to them fr

I could spread the democracy to them tho...

hmm

[fair horizon]

china

[winged field]

sounds good

[lime mist]

How cna I break through the stalemate at netherlands and belgium?

[uncut wraith]

there should be a gamerule that turns off party popularity scaling effects

it’s annoying af

tell me why when i have around 50% support for a party it’s scaled by 25% that is so bullshit and anti fun

[sharp sierra]

nutty stats and combat modifiers

[uncut wraith]

especially when i’m playing something like millennium dawn and there’s like 5 other parties that have +0.02 and my main one has like +0.15 but it’s scaled to 0.00001% because of popularity so i lose 0.12 per day on my ruling party

tell me how on earth that makes any sense

[woeful knoll]

as germany?

[lime mist]

Yeah

[woeful knoll]

restart as if u go into attrition your dead

if u let allies fill up benelux your done

[lime mist]

I already restarted

[woeful knoll]

good

this time

blitzkrieg

not ww1

[lime mist]

Yeah I know I should do that but doesnt that involve the spearhead line and im confused on how it works

[woeful knoll]

Dont play millenium dawn it is the worst hoi4 mod

[sharp sierra]

just make a good unit and have air

[woeful knoll]

its genuinely unplayble

[woeful knoll]

Spearheads are for tanks or special offensinve units

[uncut wraith]

that’s true but it’s more fun than vanilla

[woeful knoll]

Or small thrusts

[sharp sierra]

JUST do this or that its JUST that simple

[lime mist]

K

[woeful knoll]

no its not lmao

vanilla hoi4 is playable

[sharp sierra]

millenial dung

[uncut wraith]

yeah but i’m bored of vanilla

[cold frigate]

what do i take?

[woeful knoll]

essentially: offensive lines are pushing up with your lines filled, spearheads are reach this point

[lime mist]

Oh ok

So they push through a line of provinces basically?

[woeful knoll]

historical for historical 1939 war, concerns for longer germany games

[woeful knoll]

yes, so u would make a spearhead to encircle a divison with your tanks then an offensive line to clear that encirclement

[sharp sierra]

i think everytime i played germany i always did heed von neurtath

[lime mist]

alright thx dude

[heavy vigil]

highkey so tired of talking to people rn, cya chatroom

[sharp sierra]

ok bye

[woeful knoll]

Did u try kaiserredux/reich

[lime mist]

I do the reorganize the werhmacht

[cold frigate]

so i should go from 1939?

[uncut wraith]

no

[woeful knoll]

your choice

[woeful knoll]

try it bro its better

its what if germany won ww1

[cold frigate]

im new whats better

[woeful knoll]

kaiserredux is what if germany won ww1 on crack

[woeful knoll]

reorganize

[cold frigate]

then do i do anschluss?

[lime mist]

Yeah

[woeful knoll]

yes

do antichuluss in 37-38

[lime mist]

Then u get austria then u get czech and then u go danzig or war and in the meantime make alliance with russia and then go through ardennes and then war with france and then get britain out of there and then go for the us

And dont turn on russia

And take spain

And portugal

And the baltics

[woeful knoll]

this isnt a good strat bro

because of that

you are the greater germanic reich

you are the nazis

you are europe the last battle

[lime mist]

Fine

[woeful knoll]

why would you ally with jewish slavs?

[lime mist]

What if you

[woeful knoll]

yeah for gameplay but for every other reason become the GREATER german reich

[lime mist]

Build nuclear and get atomic bombs and bomb russia

[woeful knoll]

just beat them in barbrossa bro

[sharp sierra]

*strangles you on ket and acid*

[lime mist]

Bruh

WAIT

I just got a better idea

Take down the allies

And then turn on italy

And then take italy, then hungary, then romania,

and bulgaria