hoi4-general

[patent thistle]

the train station is germany's main drug heaven and i am not even overexaggerating

[fair horizon]

instantly knocked out a destroyer

[upbeat vector]

Never understood f naval battles in this game

I look at it and go like: this is RNG?

[fair horizon]

no theres a formula

[upbeat vector]

My mind: yeah pretty much

[upbeat vector]

Spamming 1 trillion subs?

[fair horizon]

naval bombers attack the moment a battle starts whereas other ships have to wait 6 hours

[upbeat vector]

Other than that

[ivory wren]

how useful cavalry really is aside from being essentially a military police

[upbeat vector]

LISTEN BOY

NOTHING

But camels are actually goated

[fair horizon]

let me rename it paradox you cowards

[upbeat vector]

Make camel space amrines okay

@ivory wren

[patent thistle]

there is litterally dealers so obviously selling drugs there it isnt even funny

[ivory wren]

well i am addicted to one country in particular sooo

[upbeat vector]

Listen idc

[ivory wren]

and it doesnt have camels

[heavy vigil]

space marines are inf

[upbeat vector]

GET TO AFRICA THEN

[heavy vigil]

camel is cav

[upbeat vector]

Sir, im sorry to inform you

REPLACE THE INFANTRY WITH CAMELS

[ivory wren]

what should i consider when making divisions tbh

[heavy vigil]

well yeah its a good choice

its just a distinctly different thing

[upbeat vector]

Thats why i say camel space marines

And said

[ivory wren]

like im not sure if its just me having too much audacity to beef with germans as poland or i suck at making divisions

(i am a new player by all means)

[fair horizon]

the entire american army is trapped

[upbeat vector]

Is this mellinium down syndrom?

[fair horizon]

nope

just vanilla hoi4

[upbeat vector]

Tf?

[fair horizon]

my puppets arent fighting the usa but my allies are

so they gave mil access to the usa and they're both trying to move through the territory

also pax romanium

[upbeat vector]

The ai is dumb you can make them push into a pocket

Encircle them with like 2 tank div or something

Win

[patent thistle]

australia-roman empire is real

[ivory wren]

oh i didnt consider lackluster strategic skills i forgot

[upbeat vector]

Well, it is an irl strategy

It is just that the way you do it in game wouldnt work cause the distances are just way too great in certain situations

And i say it wouldnt work

(Dunkirk never happened trust)

[pulsar bloom]

What are the two leaders that you can get as the lecture group ascendent with Japan?

[upbeat vector]

Toyota and mazda

[pulsar bloom]

[upbeat vector]

If you win in a decisive batle you win sooner than later

So do it if you can

[ivory wren]

i mean my main problem is that they go from 30 divisions to like 90

[upbeat vector]

And the french do nothing

[ivory wren]

yeah

just like irl!

[upbeat vector]

French moment

💔

[upbeat vector]

Ironically charle de gaule was part of the higher.staff that was infuriated by them stopping after only like 30km or something

If it was up to him, it would be safe to assume ww2 would have lasted 4 months cap

[ivory wren]

wouldnt say itd last 4 months

it would be divided into two

as soviets would indeed eventually come

[upbeat vector]

Since the french would be the only one pushing into germany unhelped by the british and the polish not being strong enough to push themselves, no

Youd get the most boring possible ending of ww2

[dusky burrow]

fair

[ivory wren]

poles had a bad plan hoping for support of uk and france

they wanted to retreat and await the arrival of them

[upbeat vector]

They wouldnt be allowed by the british

If they did it would be seen, at the time, as an act of agression yet again by the soviets

Which were the most hated of europe

[ivory wren]

british did really do a good job at stopping soviets then

[patent thistle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2847203943&searchtext=rename+cities

[upbeat vector]

In our timeline they didnt do anything cauae germany already invaded poland when they did. In that timeline, germany is about to fall. If the soviet union go past poland britain would be forced to get in

Well churchill most certinaly would

He hated the reds so much

[ivory wren]

i must add that main reason of polish-british relations before the war is the fact that they didnt expect the obvious evil guy that takes land left and right to be evil and take land left and right

so im not sure how important that would be but they were not prepared for anything

or just cowards

[upbeat vector]

They didnt want a second world war but they got it and when it was time to put on their big boy pants the french were reluctant to do the killing blow right at the start

[ivory wren]

oh speaking of churchill
wasnt he the one who literally sold poland to soviets in return for help?

[upbeat vector]

I doubt that Chamberlin would have stayed in office much longer than our timeline with the invasion of poland and subsequent mounting pressure of france to help them in the fight against tyranny

The only way britain doesnt ger involved in this timeline is
1- soviet union doesnt interfere
2- churchill doesnt get nominated

[fair horizon]

a lone battleship?

[amber matrix]

its gonna win the battle trust

✌️

[upbeat vector]

No

[ivory wren]

pretty sure it wasnt only the americans

[upbeat vector]

He allied with them but he never aknowledged poland being part of the soviet union

[prisma saddle]

what is that?

[upbeat vector]

Pretty sure you miss understand the soviet + allies relationship

Was more of a situational relationship, in fact thats all it was

[ivory wren]

thats either way an ally sold away

he promised freedom of party choice to everyone

[craggy trail]

Naval headquarters part of NCNS DLC

[upbeat vector]

They never sold the polish away, but they couldnt tell stalin that he couldn't keep poland. The allies knew how volatile and untrustworthy stalin was

[craggy trail]

When a battle happens within a sea zone covered by a naval headquarters, taskforces in that sea zone get extra stats depending on the HQ Admiral's traits

[upbeat vector]

Stalin knew britain and france were initially in the fight for the liberation of poland

The arguement "they sold them away" like ive seen many times is just ignoring the obvious

"Tell them they cant have poland!"
"If they say no? Then what?"
"..."

[ivory wren]

fair

what wasnt fair was that this was not disclosed for poles fighting for them

which is just an usual lie tbh

[amber matrix]

naval headquarters, its honestly pretty useless lol

[amber matrix]

mine is better

🥶🔥

Honestly just cap vichy france as germany and u can beat britain with that navy

Its so easy

[upbeat vector]

Its more like churchill was so unnecessary about the whole thing he proposed operation unthinkable as a proposal

More like they didnt tell them cause they were not accepting it

[ivory wren]

whatever i hate how ww2 turned out

[cursive socket]

bro tf is this

[brazen herald]

how rare is this?

[craggy trail]

You are doing very well without carriers

[upbeat vector]

Dont think many people like how it turned out

Is like the deadliest conflict in human history you know

[sly venture]

LETS GOOO

[ivory wren]

fight for the winning side and have a worse fate than ur enemy

😭

[brazen herald]

it reads that Hess flew the Hindenburg airship across Northern Sea, parachuted out of it and is in London

on historical btw

[upbeat vector]

I mean poland wasnt sliced in two theres that

[ivory wren]

thats exacly the point

[celest dirge]

Why prx have to neft collab gov that bad?

[ivory wren]

half was in the hands of ppl who wont decimate economy

the debt poland currently has sprouted from communists

[upbeat vector]

What?!?!?! Are you telling me soviet communism didnt work

Insane take (trully lol)

Me when 1991

[ivory wren]

like pick either get ur country cut in half but have half of it actually not kill itself

or have entirety stay together

in a bad ideology

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/under-new-management-more-like-under-new-management-megamind-megamind-meme-jokez-da-joke-gif-19867663

[south mountain]

How could they intervene?

[ivory wren]

gdynia

[upbeat vector]

Theres also the fact the usa money dumped, forgive or rebuilt alot of industries in their side of germany, which mind you, was already the industrial part of germany

East germany did have some industries

Notice the did

[south mountain]

How could they get to gdynia?

[flint forum]

@silver sail ARe there any countries left for me?

[ivory wren]

how else do u get to a dock

and support was expected on western front too

[south mountain]

Why would they go to Gdynia

[ivory wren]

either go for western front or help out in the east since gdynia is as a matter of fact a polish dock that would allow movement of armies

[flint forum]

@silver sail Can i do UK?

[young lake]

Do I accept? Like Im gonna be real. WHAT are the odds the Americans actually land in Japan -_-

Like the Ai hates naval invasions when there on my side

[south mountain]

The answer is that they thought about it and decided it was not worth it.

[ivory wren]

they couldve stopped germany should they actually help

[south mountain]

I think this works in almost question "Why y didn't do x"

[south mountain]

It is not that simple.

[fair horizon]

its 1949... what

[ivory wren]

they were the core reason that WW2 happened in the first place

[young lake]

W TANK!!!

[fair horizon]

zero tanks in that div

[young lake]

xd

[south mountain]

I don't think they could have done better,

[ivory wren]

they ignored german violations of the versailles pact

[crisp wyvern]

Would the l4d2 tank beat Manstein's tanks?

[ivory wren]

germany did not pull their technology out of their ass

[south mountain]

They absolutely thought about that.

They just saw it was just not worth it at that moment.

[ivory wren]

whatever
dear menacing black pfp guy lets not continue it my 5 secs of attention span have ended

[amber matrix]

1950 navy battle

[south mountain]

What is the best mod that changes the game?

[amber matrix]

black ice trust

[south mountain]

I want a kaiserreich like mod

[knotty vortex]

whats the space marines template

[amber matrix]

its so fun

[amber matrix]

Black ice mod is so good it totally doesnt make you want to shoot yourself

trust me

[knotty vortex]

well i clearly did something wrong

people genuinely tell me this is eays

[dusky burrow]

when did you annex lithuania

[knotty vortex]

early

i just dont even know how to hold the germans off

[heavy vigil]

blep

[knotty vortex]

theyre so strong bro

[fair horizon]

holy crap britian actually doing something

[knotty vortex]

i cant even put up a fight

[hardy marlin]

yeah i mean you have like 70 divisions

[fair horizon]

ngl i like the new update because i can do things like this

[timber laurel]

why is ur germany in europe

mine is in china

[heavy vigil]

interesting

[timber laurel]

i didnt think it'd work but because i put on focus.nochecks it works

japan and china are at war

[young lake]

I HATE UNEQUAL TREATIES SO MUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[dusky burrow]

and then they fail and get mopped up

[ivory hull]

kaiserredux

[thick kettle]

Should i fix this

[dusky burrow]

china's going down

[young lake]

xd

[fair horizon]

thankfully for them that was sweden capitulating

[vocal bolt]

should line arty get a buff

[fair horizon]

no

[vocal bolt]

I feel like they should drop its combat widht

[viscid mason]

I think in a paradox dev corner they wanted to make regimental support companies, (put artillery battalions in the regiments)

[dusky burrow]

Yeah they did

[vocal bolt]

or make it have breakthrough

[flint forum]

@shrewd valley what?

YOu called me

[vocal bolt]

just make it useful please

[flint widget]

what is happening

[fair horizon]

NOOOOO

[fair horizon]

laser anti sub weapons

[pure ginkgo]

its so beutiful🥹 ✌️

[rich finch]

@ornate harbor vanilla?

[ornate harbor]

yes

[rich finch]

ok i host

[ornate harbor]

join vc?

no historical?

[viscid mason]

I think line artillery (imo line artillwry is misnomer as artillery fire in the back?) should be its own seperate thing from front line units and support compamys. I thought out making a better div designer but didnt bother due to modding constraints.

[rich finch]

im in vc

[ornate harbor]

good

:>

[rich finch]

made it

join

[amber matrix]

thats a defeat?

[vocal bolt]

duh

planes are cheaper than ships

[brittle cypress]

Test

[heavy vigil]

hi marcus

[thick kettle]

The Northern Invasion

[ornate harbor]

wait

cant understannd anybody

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[thick kettle]

time for invasion

[young lake]

Didnt even know you could run out of manpower as China, I am on volunteer only but still. I haven't taken too many casualties

[quartz needle]

you are still mobilising 2.5m more

[young lake]

xd

Didnt even realise lmao

[quartz needle]

its weird

[dusky burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lehM90lJ_E4

[young lake]

Do I need a level 10 airbase to paradrop?

[young lake]

I mean its 1943

And I thought I would have 100% mobilized xd

[fair horizon]

how do i do this?

[young lake]

Lose your land ig?

Let Japan take some

Then nuke it

[fair horizon]

that doesnt seem easy ngl

[young lake]

I mean I dont think its supposed to be xd

[fair horizon]

i mean japan literally wont attack australia

they cant make it there

[young lake]

Maybe non historical

Or does Japan only get a war goal on the uk if they decolonize?

If the Uk goes Communist

[fair horizon]

they get the war goal and they declare war

[heavy vigil]

no

[fair horizon]

but britian and america will intervene and kill them off first

[heavy vigil]

china is manpower limited now

low recruitment factor

[heavy vigil]

it can happen

yes

[young lake]

Yeah but who do they get the war goal on if the Uk has no colony's

On the colony's or on the uk?

[heavy vigil]

timor leste needs to be like your only enemy with no one called in and they need a navy

[fair horizon]

even if you join the war for instance you cant get them to invade

[heavy vigil]

it doesnt need to be timor leste

just put some nation like japan there

with peacedeal stuff

[fair horizon]

the only country ive ever got to invade me was the usa

[heavy vigil]

vendrip

does it annoy you that max core australia is uk path dependent

[fair horizon]

not really

a few thousand pop means nothing to me

[heavy vigil]

its about not having max core pop tho

[vital cove]

holy shit the Philippines suck so bad

[heavy vigil]

youre looking at it wrong

[vital cove]

pdx really made sure that fun is impossible as the Philippines

[fair horizon]

both islands have no build slots so w/e

[heavy vigil]

if you ignore its mils, it has navy buffs

your mils are a lost cause

[vital cove]

who cares about navy

[heavy vigil]

its all you have

[fair horizon]

ban him

[vital cove]

what am i gonna do with navy

its useless

[heavy vigil]

its all you have

[vital cove]

wow i can farm warscore

[fair horizon]

mine the barents sea

[heavy vigil]

your mils are not recoverable

[fair horizon]

keep japan from naval invading

[vital cove]

i mean that's not the issue

[heavy vigil]

your ground tech is also not recoverable

[vital cove]

I have industry

unlimited industry and manpower

[heavy vigil]

then whats the issue

mass mob

[fair horizon]

make a navy then

[vital cove]

the issue is research, steel, rng fest, and just thw way your nation is spread all over the world and you have to fight everyone at the same time and it takes years to reach anywhere

[heavy vigil]

yes

navy is the only thing you have

also exile tree

like in time

[fair horizon]

play the beta

ships are way cheaper

[heavy vigil]

coastal defense ship meta

[fair horizon]

look at this for 3 steel

[vital cove]

navy is not gonna help me get my formable 😭

[heavy vigil]

it will

trust the process

[vital cove]

its not

I have the us navy anyways

[heavy vigil]

oh yeah you can do that

ok then you have nothing

[vital cove]

its not like i need to produce navy of my own

[fair horizon]

rp purposes

[vital cove]

no i mean like. i killed the us

and took their navy

[heavy vigil]

you have a mediocre size core pop

[vital cove]

i have 130m core pop

and can get more

[heavy vigil]

a lack of research a lack of resources a lack of industry

[heavy vigil]

so like 4x less than china

[neon gull]

This game isn't about fun, it's about making you feel pain in it's purest form, and making you addicted to it

[heavy vigil]

so mediocre

[vital cove]

i can get more

my max core pop is like uhh

300m?

[fair horizon]

CURSE OF NO PLANE MIO

[heavy vigil]

entire world

[vital cove]

well

[heavy vigil]

anarchist spain

[vital cove]

ignoring that

[heavy vigil]

you core spain

ignoring that its still like all of south america

[vital cove]

i also ignore franco spain union

[heavy vigil]

ignoring that its still all of south america and central america

[vital cove]

Indonesia is like the biggest thing

that's 60m?

then Malaysia idr how much

[heavy vigil]

something like that

but yeah

[dusky burrow]

yeah indonesia is huge

[vital cove]

then i also get Taiwan, Madagascar

[heavy vigil]

philippines one of the weakest focus tree nations

[vital cove]

yeah

[heavy vigil]

up there with iceland

iceland is so bad

my iceland strat relies on getting strike event RNG

cuz its like the max buffs

[vital cove]

Iceland at least like. it makes sense it'd be bad

the issue is not the focus tree

[heavy vigil]

tbh i appreciate bad nations

[vital cove]

the focus tree just doesn't fix its issues

[heavy vigil]

philippines sucks and it should be appreciated as non mega bloat

also theres no strats for it

no one plays it who is good

im sure you could make some good strat from the rough

[fair horizon]

id never done this apparently

[thick kettle]

it may have been successful

[vital cove]

the thing is

its so much rng

[craggy trail]

Mine-d you, it's kind of an achievement people forget about

[fair horizon]

australia ❤️

[craggy trail]

[amber matrix]

i have 70 dockyards so idk aboutbthat for me

anyways im in england now

i killed the whole british navy

[young lake]

God I love being China and they steal ALL my resources I need for basic functions

🥹 ✌️

[amber matrix]

just change ur economy law

[vocal bolt]

id say this was a successful game

world peace at the coast of map gore

[young lake]

I dont have the pp -_-

[amber matrix]

w encirlclement?

[fair horizon]

coast

[vocal bolt]

L encirclement bc your troops touched manchester

[amber matrix]

son

anyways they just got capped

[fair horizon]

usa beat up the british navy

[amber matrix]

first time i ever capped the brits

[vocal bolt]

I dont make the rules

[young lake]

God I HATE the Allies WHY ARE THEY SO INCOMPETANT THE JAPANESE HAD 3M CASUALTIES AND ARE LITERALLY CRIPPLED HOW ARE YOU LETTING THEM NAVAL INVADE SUCCESSFULLY 😭

GENUENLY not even my issue, Its funny but also they could idk WEAKEN the Japanese

I mean garrisons weaken them so

Ig

[fair horizon]

where was your navy?

[young lake]

Im China.

Where do you think 😭

[fair horizon]

ok and?

[young lake]

BRO

;-;

[fair horizon]

you start with cruiser tech

[young lake]

Tbf I really SHOULD have a good navy

ngl

I just need materials

-_-

But also manpower

[vital cove]

???

what do you mean manpower

are you missing manpower?

[vocal bolt]

am watching a hoi4 guide and what the hell is this division bruh

[young lake]

Si

[fair horizon]

bittersteel?

[young lake]

xd

[vocal bolt]

some guy named balkan cowboy

[vital cove]

why are u missing manpower as china

[vocal bolt]

why would anyone use that division bruh

super expensive

[young lake]

Im on volunteer only ._.

[dusky burrow]

for a doctrine-less division this is actually pretty fine

[fair horizon]

smh haafr he doesnt want to kill all his civilians

[vocal bolt]

inf block my goat

9 inf support art aa and engi company

[vital cove]

ok and? you should still have few million manpower

[vocal bolt]

lowkey enough for world conquest

[dusky burrow]

but if you got your special forces doctrines and your infantry subdoctrines unlocked it becomes clear just how much you're losing by using line artillery

[vocal bolt]

lead those farmers to their death bruh

[vital cove]

remove engineers

[fair horizon]

dont listen to them

[vital cove]

most overrated thing in the game

[vocal bolt]

is special force doctrine still a thing

I dont remeber

[dusky burrow]

yes

[vocal bolt]

why

[fair horizon]

next thing you know casey will be telling you to do an australian civil war that costs the lives of 10k people

[vocal bolt]

I play defensive alot

entrenchment is goated

[dusky burrow]

engineers aren't that bad for a division of this size btw

[vital cove]

they're doing close to nothing on the offense and are very expensive for what they give even on the defense

[vocal bolt]

also movement bonus for tanks afaik

[young lake]

Not really? I have 2.5M casualties with 1.7M in the army. With a max of 4M manpower I really dont have much left xd

[vital cove]

movement bonus is useless

[dusky burrow]

they're really bad on divisions like 9/0s because compared to 9 infantry the cost of engineers is pretty high

But if you're comparing them to 13 infantry 3 artillery it's relatively proportionate

[vocal bolt]

lowkey carried me in the chezch run

[vital cove]

oh you're playing dlcless. well just go up conscription law

[young lake]

Yh 😔

[dusky burrow]

yeah because czechia has not a lot of manpower

[vocal bolt]

how does one figure that out from just the battle screen

[vocal bolt]

yeah I dont really play big nations

[young lake]

I lwk used all my manpower on trade laws. So Ill just tank the missing manpower for now

[vocal bolt]

so engineers are goated for me

[young lake]

;-;

[vital cove]

i see the warlords that don't exist with ncns

[vocal bolt]

ah

holy unemployment

are 7-2s still a thing

[vital cove]

i mean

xibei san ma

is pretty noticable

[young lake]

Idk how Germany is even alive with these casualties. Ussr lwk mogging on them

[dusky burrow]

although with a division of this combat width i would put signals somewhere

[young lake]

The frontline with the Ussr has barely moved in like 2 years. WW1 type shi

[dusky burrow]

because otherwise you're inviting yourself to get reinforce memed

[vocal bolt]

what does signal div do

also are tanks even needed for ai

[vital cove]

no

[dusky burrow]

(unless you're using a unit that provides initiative, like militia, mountaineers, or forest rangers)

[vital cove]

they're not even worth it

[vocal bolt]

You can do world conquest with just inf blocks if you play right

[vital cove]

in most cases

[vocal bolt]

invest in cas

[untold mountain]

https://teams.live.com/meet/9374170534804?p=6MB0cYQJ3zdWZcQwap

[vocal bolt]

9 inf will do just fine

also supply

[vocal bolt]

what

[vital cove]

like its not that tanks are not required for sp

[vocal bolt]

no one clicking that bruh

[vital cove]

they're just worse

in most cases

battleplan, and if you need elite units for breakthrough, special forces

[dusky burrow]

there are two things signals companies do
if you have multiple enemies in combat, it increases the damage focused onto one enemy division, making it easier to exceed their defense value and knock them out early
every point of initiative increases reinforce rate by 0.25%, so your divisions can reinforce the battlefield from reserves more easily

[vocal bolt]

which dlc adds the peace deal option to steal navy

[dusky burrow]

it's the second one that is the critical point

[vocal bolt]

not having that dlc makes early landlocked nations unbearable

[vocal bolt]

nice

[amber matrix]

german ai does not do barbarossa correctly

[vocal bolt]

are special forces that goated ?

[amber matrix]

im just saying

[amber matrix]

they are very good

[dusky burrow]

if you only have 2 divisions in battle, as is the case with a 35-width, it can be relatively easy to knock one division after the other

[vocal bolt]

only one I invest in are mountaneers

[amber matrix]

especially mountaineers

[dusky burrow]

making it really easy to have both retreat

[vocal bolt]

yeah I do those

[amber matrix]

marines are also good

[dusky burrow]

and thus get reinforce memed

therefore

[heavy vigil]

i wish battles were 2 dimentional

[amber matrix]

paratroops arent very good

only good for germany tbh

[vocal bolt]

Dunno what that means

[young lake]

They didnt even make it to Estonia bro 😭
I know now they aint too good on barb but I thought it would be BETTER than this

[vocal bolt]

I prefer them to naval invasions

[heavy vigil]

id be so balling

[vocal bolt]

drop into port

then just move troops there

[amber matrix]

The problem is that they have no supply when they drop and the brits always garrisoning

[dusky burrow]

basically it means that all of your actively fighting divisions get de-organized while you still have units in reserves

if you can increase the rate at which units from reserves enter active fighting, you can stop reinforce memes

[amber matrix]

i just took britain so easily

[dusky burrow]

and the rate at which units from the reserves enter active fighting is called reinforce rate, which signals companies increase

[amber matrix]

literally just battleplanned it because i have op tank divs

[vocal bolt]

I dont like tanks tbh

[dusky burrow]

yeah that's really rough

[vocal bolt]

I just dont like having too many stuff in general

managing alot of diffrent div templates is stupid imo

[amber matrix]

its May 1941 but i think im gonna wait until 1942 to do barb

because i need some time

[vocal bolt]

just have inf line holders and inf (preferably mountaneer) breaktrough stuff

[south mountain]

What to do here?

[vocal bolt]

protect your ports

they got naval supremacy

[dusky burrow]

beat them back even more

[heavy vigil]

tbh lowkey i think hoi4 battles struggle with putting 3d battles into 2d tiles

[amber matrix]

hoi4 battles are unrealistic because small field tactics dont exist

[young lake]

How do I overcome Communist China's mountains 😭

[amber matrix]

mountaineers

[young lake]

BRUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Can I just like brute force it

;-;

[amber matrix]

Oh.9'

[amber matrix]

sure if you can

but mountaineers are very good

[fair horizon]

chat i finally did it

[heavy vigil]

and also battle modifiers

[fair horizon]

:)

[young lake]

I mean they're not that well equipped and like as China. I dont wanna have to research mountaineers ._.

Wait I have a genius plan

[ember vine]

I wish all pickpocketers to die from testicle explosion

[young lake]

Im just gonna paradrop there Capital

[vital cove]

🔥

[late valley]

This amazing

[amber matrix]

ur weird for reasearching paradrop but not mountaineers

[wheat drum]

anyone got a good heavy tank design?

like division template

[vocal bolt]

dont

[young lake]

I need to paradrop Japan. I wasnt planning on it until I figured that out

;-;

[amber matrix]

heavy tank designer or div template

[vocal bolt]

imo best best use for heavies is just space marines

[wheat drum]

div temp

[late valley]

what country ru playing as

[young lake]

Well I was TOLD to paradrop Japan. But I think building a navy is lwk faster -_-

[wheat drum]

usa

[amber matrix]

as china paradrop japan because they never have anyone there

[young lake]

They have constant air there

And like

I have 50 dockyards. I think its just faster to naval invade 😭

[main spoke]

Hehehe LONG LIVE TO THE CCP

[woeful knoll]

omg the man himdself responded to me

[fair horizon]

oml my game just crashed

[young lake]

Pretty short lived

ngl

[amber matrix]

vro i have 225 mils and nothing to make

i have huge stockpiels in everything

[main spoke]

No need to try, CCP can't be beaten, the red sun Mao tse-tung shall cover this world in scarlet blood

https://tenor.com/view/mao-zedong-china-communism-ccp-cigarette-gif-14199294749066463830

[fair horizon]

chat i still have zero clue how paratroopers work

[heavy vigil]

click

[main spoke]

Damn they're not robbing enough equipment there

[young lake]

Trust trust

[main spoke]

Look broke as heck

[main spoke]

PEAK PROFILE

[young lake]

xd

[main spoke]

Boys

[young lake]

Thank you brochacho

[main spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1327029859452715109/1433869538063024228/attachment-12.gif

[fair horizon]

ok but where do i put my boats

[young lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440668422626213898/1440689737886077029/fur_sees_boy.gif

[main spoke]

Sure brochacho :33

[woeful knoll]

Communist china is the most op nation in hoi4 btw

[main spoke]

YES

[young lake]

xd

[main spoke]

I know, I only played it at the beginning

[heavy vigil]

not in the airfield

[amber matrix]

I have 2m fuel

[young lake]

Dont forget the mighty Albania!

[amber matrix]

🔥

[main spoke]

😨

[grave sonnet]

Hello chat how r we doing

[heavy vigil]

aetherr lets not bypass slur filter

[amber matrix]

i think i have some rubber

[main spoke]

Oh it's a slur? 😭 I didn't even know lol

https://tenor.com/view/self-control-type-bark-woof-gif-9489710035771535173

[grave sonnet]

When you go to free trade Ur gonna get a billion factories from allat rubber the other nations gonna buy

[woeful knoll]

Whats harder afghan or japan civil war

[young lake]

Can I have some

[young lake]

LMAOOO

[young lake]

HOW

[heavy vigil]

afghanistan is easy so civil war

[main spoke]

I'm French 😭😭😭 and I get call and call like that most of my online friends HAHA

[young lake]

BRO

[main spoke]

I'M JUST A GAYBO😭🎀

[amber matrix]

i think i acheived autarky guys

[young lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/220630053900255242/1384660812290854953/RDT_20250617_182255185185112856632487.gif

[main spoke]

Hoi4 protogen :

[main spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/885064523785064458/1463125567787499630/cat_in_pot_verysad.gif

[young lake]

Holy Rubber extraction. I've never seen it so high

[heavy vigil]

wdym youre importing like so much stuff

[amber matrix]

its all my puppets

[young lake]

Puppets

[amber matrix]

and yes i am doing the focus rn

[heavy vigil]

you need to own it directly or one of your puppets needs to fully fulfill a requirement just fyi

[amber matrix]

with puppets you get 80 per civ

[grave sonnet]

Autarky is when you are self sufficient and don't need other you are clearly importing which means you rely on others so no you didn't achieve it

[amber matrix]

im telling you its available

[amber matrix]

its my puppets for gods sake

[grave sonnet]

Ic mb

[young lake]

Ew

French

[amber matrix]

with puppets you get 80 per civ

so i use like 20 civs for this

19*

[young lake]

My game almost crashed when I said this, I take it back

I love the French

[grave sonnet]

I loved when we used to click print screen button on our keyboards

[young lake]

Trust

[amber matrix]

never

[fathom shard]

they/them

[fair horizon]

dont forget to lend lease them stuff

[prisma saddle]

TURKEY IS SO A PAIN my god ataturk help me

[fair horizon]

censor that word

[young lake]

Errrrr and what is this supposed to mean? 😭

[prime marsh]

french 🧐

[amber matrix]

im just building stuff lil

lol

[grave sonnet]

Only true chads grab their crappy phone camera and move away 5km and take a photo ☝🏼

[fathom shard]

idk you tell me

[prisma saddle]

VENDRIP HY TURJEY IS SO BADD

[woeful knoll]

Turkey has the worst focus tree tree in hoi4

[amber matrix]

so real

[young lake]

Like woowwwwww

Just wow 😭

[grave sonnet]

I mostly hate turkey because it's turkey so idk

[amber matrix]

worse than the default?

[prisma saddle]

i had very much time to realize😭

[woeful knoll]

No bro

[fathom shard]

no?

[woeful knoll]

whataboutism

[prime marsh]

true

[woeful knoll]

what ACTUAL focus tree is worse then turkey not new zealand

[grave sonnet]

Default is gold

[fathom shard]

skibidi with the tism

[dusky burrow]

casey be like

[amber matrix]

u said worst in hoi4

[main spoke]

Wha
Not u furry gaybo😭😭

[fathom shard]

tannu tuva

[main spoke]

Yes indeed

[flint forum]

Im i the only one who cannot hear and talk to other people

[woeful knoll]

The default focus tree is actually good btw

[amber matrix]

yes

[flint forum]

Bruh

[amber matrix]

no its not dude

[prisma saddle]

turkey beat also tannu tuva

trust

[young lake]

But like.... Its the FRENCH

[amber matrix]

its not fun at all

[grave sonnet]

Wdym

[fathom shard]

turkey doesnt not beat jackshiit

[flint forum]

When i was calling it says discord was having an regional something thing

[prisma saddle]

turket beat all

[prime marsh]

I am learning french for 2 years in school and I only can say il y a du soleil breh

[fair horizon]

YOU DARE CHALLENGE ME?

[woeful knoll]

yes, for poland or belgium its not, but every update it gets better. So tannu tuva can get 12 factories and huge research bonuses and 3 dockyards just from its focus tree

[fathom shard]

turks and albanians are on the same level of schizophrenic nationalism

[woeful knoll]

The smaller the country the better it is

[main spoke]

What about it? 😞😞😞 It's the best country in the world to live in for now (will not be in 40y cause no money left but for now we live privileged as heck)

[fathom shard]

worst country to live in

[main spoke]

LMAOOO

[main spoke]

What

[young lake]

ENG 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

Trust

[fathom shard]

have you seen the state of paris

im glad i dont live in mainland france

[flint forum]

Japan or Korea better i think

Or austria

[main spoke]

Imagine crashing ur economy cause u don't want migrants from the EU (only getting more migrants too)

[young lake]

Are you just always negative bro...

[young lake]

xd

[woeful knoll]

Africian Calpihate of Paristan

[main spoke]

And? What's up with it?

[young lake]

I love the country, hate the government

[prime marsh]

I doubt about korea

[fair horizon]

my puppets have 100 american divs trapped

[main spoke]

What
Why did bro mention the 2 biggest suicide rate on the planet in a row

[fathom shard]

fwsv described it correctly

[main spoke]

:p

[fathom shard]

paris is the capital of somalia

not talking about the air quality

it smells like dogshit there

[main spoke]

What :0

[main spoke]

Huh? No?

[flint forum]

Thats not the reason

[main spoke]

I even have a Chinese friend that came and told me it smelt like perfume everywhere LOL

[prime marsh]

because china has even worse air quality

[fathom shard]

LOLe xactly

[main spoke]

Nah not recently

[fathom shard]

have you been to a place with good air quality

[main spoke]

And we don't have a bad air quality?

[round spindle]

usa is so boring

[main spoke]

I've traveled most of the Mediterranean

[round spindle]

just waitin years for japan

[dusky burrow]

you can just go directly to japan tbh

[fair horizon]

wym? invade multiple islands at once

[round spindle]

not even at wart yet

[main spoke]

With UK, Bulgaria and Belgium too (and Portugal if its not in it?)

[fathom shard]

italy has the worst air quality of europe

[prime marsh]

my cousin went to china for university for 1 year when she came back and doctor said "how long you've been smoking" breh

[main spoke]

Only been there twice and Rome had no problem

[fathom shard]

roman eras italy probably was cleaner than todays italy

[fair horizon]

my point still stands, also you went with the wrong path

[vital cove]

yeah fre*ch is a slur

[main spoke]

LOL

[fathom shard]

LOL

[late valley]

thats nice

[round spindle]

how so

[woeful knoll]

Its not fun because u have too much

[main spoke]

Nah it was not French idiot

[woeful knoll]

the fun part is building ur country up

usa has infinete everything

not fun

[fair horizon]

because you could have already been at war

[woeful knoll]

and a horrible focus

[round spindle]

how

[late valley]

esp if u wanna go facist

[round spindle]

the panay thing

[woeful knoll]

thats fine but again ur too powerful

[fair horizon]

by switching ideologies?

[vital cove]

i know, i just wanted to make use of the opportunity
all jokingly, not serious

[vocal bolt]

am gonna go for my first world conquest

[main spoke]

While CCP is overpowered even if it starts small ✌️

[main spoke]

LMAOOO okie 😭

[round spindle]

why would i do that

[vocal bolt]

also britain is a lowkey goated nation bc I dont have to put effort into building a navy

[woeful knoll]

your point being?

[round spindle]

holy eco

[fair horizon]

TRUE

[young lake]

Please censor Fr*nch

[fathom shard]

bunch of geeks in the chat

holy

[vocal bolt]

for what reason would you need heavy fighters

[fair horizon]

THAT IS NOT A P47 😭

[round spindle]

its the auto name im not bothered to change it

[late valley]

this seems wronger the more i look

[fair horizon]

why would you not

[round spindle]

idk why not

[vocal bolt]

expensive

[round spindle]

why lol

[round spindle]

look at my eco??

[vocal bolt]

but I guess thats not much of a concern at that point

[fair horizon]

do you see the mil count?

[elfin rock]

You have given all your rights to ME. Because you are too afraid to live FREE. Klaus Schwab, World Economic 2023. PUSH AGENDA 2030. You will eat ze bugs in the Metaverse. OBLITERATE THE HUMAN PANDEMIC. We own you, und sons und daughters. POP POP POP POPULATION CONTROL. DAVOS! WE ARE HERE!

[vocal bolt]

there is no limit to the minmax

[prime marsh]

why a human being plays usa fr

[near otter]

Democracy

[vocal bolt]

do nothing for 5 years invade canada invade mexico close game

[prime marsh]

another reason to not play it

[round spindle]

FINALLY

[fathom shard]

first ever amphibious user recorded

[fair horizon]

chat is this fleet tuff?

[fathom shard]

literally light tanks but ass

[late valley]

u cant bully nations it aint fun bro

[round spindle]

literally just to use up my mills

[fathom shard]

LOL fair enough

[vocal bolt]

build strat bombers

[prime marsh]

playing usa is not funny as well 😭

[round spindle]

holy pp gain

[vocal bolt]

holy moly

[fathom shard]

democracy is the worst ideology of hoi4

[vocal bolt]

what the hell are you playing

[round spindle]

okay

[near otter]

Indeed

[elfin rock]

the larp rises

[fathom shard]

whole profile is just plain larping

[late valley]

Ikkk

[fathom shard]

meanwhile i'm actually Socrates

[round spindle]

okay?

[near otter]

Say something he’d say

[late valley]

what is the meaning of life

[elfin rock]

POP POP POP POPULATION CONTROL!

[fathom shard]

idk bro i know the tiktok socrates that throws ass

[vital cove]

bro went to hoi4 discord and was surprised to see geeks 💔 truly only Socrates is capable of this wisdom

[grave sonnet]

Is this the real Takagi?

[near otter]

Whose the real Takagi

[woeful knoll]

This is a neo nazi discord not nerdy one

[vocal bolt]

bomb the shit out of your enemy

[woeful knoll]

get it right

[grave sonnet]

You tell me man 😭

[south mountain]

Germany does not do that btw.

[near otter]

Idk man

[vocal bolt]

larp it out

[late valley]

ye she is

[grave sonnet]

Alr

[woeful knoll]

or you could hmm idk build a navy lmao

[heavy vigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/187017643448991745/1206926220365668362/caption-3-2.gif

[woeful knoll]

its not that hard

[vocal bolt]

never

just steal navy

[round spindle]

smallest usa fleet literally

[elfin rock]

nuke the poles

[vocal bolt]

it is downrigt horrid if you start landlocked

[south mountain]

Navy is not that important since Germany AI does not care about navy usually

[vocal bolt]

that why stealing navies is so good

[fathom shard]

and the germans

[prime marsh]

I guess bro

[fair horizon]

@patent thistle fleet check

[fathom shard]

aswell as the [REDACTED]

[vocal bolt]

@round spindle build carriers

[round spindle]

no

[elfin rock]

POP POP POP POPULATION CONTROL!

[woeful knoll]

german ai is actually broken on navy, it doesnt matter if they go rebuild the high seas fleet prussia path they will never build a navy

[round spindle]

by the time i have enough the wars over

[elfin rock]

world economic forum 2023

[late valley]

[woeful knoll]

Have you been playing one australia game for the past 2 weeks dude?

[south mountain]

True and I am not focusing on navy

[late valley]

have u played tfr

[round spindle]

we encourage reading in the usa suprisingly

[prime marsh]

does germans even have a proper navy

[near otter]

[elfin rock]

POP POP POP POPULATION CONTROL

[late valley]

[south mountain]

The AI never.

[fathom shard]

highkey only geeks and weirdos actually make proper navies

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/cortisol-level-gif-2410901269072201082

[near otter]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-beedrill-gif-10670967432879057706

[round spindle]

im justifiy on japan they talking too long

[elfin rock]

the larp rises

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-knife-gif-7513112569325797291

[woeful knoll]

e

[prime marsh]

😢

[paper bough]

hello, i just bought the game, i can see the playerbase is large in steam ccharts but bearly see any players in the official ingame lobby

[elfin rock]

nuke this person into oblivion

[fathom shard]

feedback gaming stopped botting the game

[woeful knoll]

majority of hoi4 players play singleplayer firstly

[round spindle]

oh

[fair horizon]

no only a few days

[woeful knoll]

secondly you need to find a private server for multiplayer i think never played it

[paper bough]

are you saying new players should play single player 1st ? cuz i am not new

[near otter]

Is no compromise no surrender still 50 bucks bro

[fathom shard]

yes

100% of this game is built for singleplayer

[paper bough]

i am not new i know the game i jsut stopped playing for a year

[elfin rock]

nuke the poles first

[south mountain]

Singleplayer is the best gamemode

[woeful knoll]

yes dude and you literally said you just bought the game

and what i was saying was a majority of hoi4 players dont play multiplayer

[elfin rock]

play as germany and larp the entire game

[woeful knoll]

thats why theres not a lot of ppl in public lobbies

[fathom shard]

do you only have larp in ur vocab

[paper bough]

there are other means you could use to play a game without buying it

[woeful knoll]

im not arguing with you bro

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/cortisol-level-gif-2410901269072201082

[fathom shard]

define cortisol as an hormone

[woeful knoll]

"i just bought the game" means your a new player if your not word it better

[round spindle]

i am not microing ts

[near otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664276554427269155/1132249166379221024/caption-3-1.gif

[late valley]

something that rises in my body when i see u talk

[south mountain]

Is this feature good?

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/no-noo-nope-never-sarcastic-no-gif-4776564746551978937

[round spindle]

nahh its terrible so i mgonna use it

[prime marsh]

sherlock? impressed...

[near otter]

https://tenor.com/view/front-line-infantry-gif-8288852057129662740

[paper bough]

ok since we established that i am not new, why can i bearly see any players in the ingame lobby ?

[fair horizon]

casey i ran out of tanks

[paper bough]

i expected to see nations

[elfin rock]

i just nuked them

[near otter]

They’re scared

[round spindle]

"just build tanks" lethal

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-watches-watches-speed-gif-11188016245055018266

[near otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/980668685729546244/1255083844210786317/togif.gif

[elfin rock]

oh no the germans are closing in whatre we going to do switzerland

the ever bountiful alps:

[fair horizon]

these are for garrisons

[near otter]

If isreal offered me money

Idk what id do

Cuz I’m broke

[round spindle]

i can garrison the world

[fathom shard]

1943 24% world tension

[late valley]

as a muslim im taking it:)

[near otter]

Alr a

Yeah

[round spindle]

so many things wrong w this photo

[fair horizon]

must be nice but unfortunately australia

[fathom shard]

as a muslim christian and pagan i'm also taking it

[elfin rock]

mods this person questioned me obliterate this philosipher

[late valley]

yo whose this guy

[elfin rock]

if you're a philosipher what're you without philosophy

[fathom shard]

Socrates

[elfin rock]

im going to nuke you

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/cortisol-level-gif-2410901269072201082

[prime marsh]

stop nuking ppl

🙏

[round spindle]

im hungry

[elfin rock]

mods this person is trying tp persuade me obliterate them

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[elfin rock]

im going to nuke you

[near otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/998409532676001873/1147207218333241424/image.gif

[fathom shard]

stop nuking people

[prime marsh]

socrates is ordering that as well

stop nuking people

right now

[elfin rock]

mffgmmgmhmhmhfdds

[fathom shard]

https://giphy.com/gifs/impostor-bro-thinks-hes-on-the-team-who-invited-my-man-blud-uC2GioVe4nyjE47wMJ

[elfin rock]

the feds are coming gfoprm you

[near otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/951330719181991937/1462442201526308874/attachment.gif

[fathom shard]

https://giphy.com/gifs/muslim-thanos-gifs-hands-please-memes-uPxEnSV2FoEKQEgOlQ

[prime marsh]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/893338197386473503/1267241278555295865/attachment.gif

[elfin rock]

tel avibtits

[round spindle]

"Just make PP" lethal

[near otter]

They done deleted my gif 😔

[elfin rock]

the larp is being deleted

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/oi-gif-6354330285527974391

[elfin rock]

obliterate ththj

[fathom shard]

damn we really getting regulated

[grave sonnet]

The larp never ends

[elfin rock]

SRTOPOTT

[near otter]

The other Netanyahu ones stay up tho😭

[elfin rock]

LMFFAO

[fathom shard]

mods are only half efficient

[grave sonnet]

Should have stayed quiet

[prime marsh]

he is gone

[elfin rock]

IMPRREESSED

[heavy vigil]

👁️

[near otter]

Suppression of the masses

[fathom shard]

TEL AVIV IMPRESSED 🙏

[late valley]

that photo was deleted by mossad

[elfin rock]

im shisisdtting myself

[near otter]

https://tenor.com/view/anchovy-recuerdos-de-vietnam-vietnam-girls-und-panzer-gif-2023649962985240430

[elfin rock]

im going to obliterate you

[prime marsh]

why there is isis in the word

[fair horizon]

i love looking at the tendrils

[elfin rock]

hhhg

[fathom shard]

bro what

[elfin rock]

nuke yourself

larp[er

[near otter]

Larp on larp violence

[fathom shard]

i have this exaact gif lmao

saved

[dusky burrow]

australia be like

[grave sonnet]

Death to the Daesh

[elfin rock]

_ _

[fathom shard]

mods there's netanyahu in the top right corner delete this

[heavy vigil]

do you guys really want to be timed out/muted like you can politely ask for it instead

[late valley]

sponsored by Israel

[prime marsh]

uhm nı

no

[late valley]

what rule did we break

[near otter]

https://tenor.com/view/cortisol-level-gif-2410901269072201082

[elfin rock]

can I please be muted for an hour

larper

[heavy vigil]

#server-rules 4, also the spam one

[fathom shard]

guy only has larp in his mouth

[elfin rock]

larp

[prime marsh]

puppet of the west

so yea

[south mountain]

You can ask moderators to be muted???? Can I get a 30s mute?

[elfin rock]

western powers trtying to mute my ass

larpers

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-annoyed-mad-pissed-trying-to-sleep-gif-5628725

[grave sonnet]

I'll stop talking about it since it's against the rules ,but based

[dusky burrow]

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[late valley]

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[heavy vigil]

i dont hate you i just am here to enforce the rules

[near otter]

https://tenor.com/view/how-did-we-get-here-minecraft-achievement-advancement-gif-25679370

[elfin rock]

schwab approved

[fair horizon]

australia should be able to form the eu methinks

[near otter]

Bros gonna get muted

[prime marsh]

enforce is such a tuff word and it makes me feel disturbed 😢

[elfin rock]

netanyahu is being deleted

[late valley]

rip

[south mountain]

#hoi4-general btw 😭

[south mountain]

💔

[near otter]

Suppression of the masses

[dusky burrow]

seems like people are getting muted today

[elfin rock]

oh this is hoi4 servee ri thought this was tfr server bruh

[late valley]

FFS

[elfin rock]

i was larping

[late valley]

WHAT IS THIS LARP

[fair horizon]

i hope they say yes id like some more core manpower

[grave sonnet]

TFR servers are hypercancer

[near otter]

Give me mod and none of this would happen trust