hoi4-general

[unkempt zodiac]

tier 5 aa along coast, paratroopers get shredded

[heavy vigil]

playing iceland since its been long since i have

strike RNG hates me i need strikes i need strikes i need strikes

[unkempt zodiac]

not when my divisions are getting CONSTANTLY attacked on 4 tiles and have zero strength and i cannot even counterattack to capture a port and if i send more supply dies

[tepid crown]

I still haven’t played a real game in like 6 months. Lmao. School been beating me down. More stressed now than ever

[unkempt zodiac]

and did i mention about THE 23 DIVISIONS ON DOVER

WHY ARE THERE 23 DIVISIONS ON DOVER

[heavy vigil]

damn hope it goes well for you

[faint fiber]

I made imperial Japan...less evil? no fascism

[trim lotus]

Try to do multiple naval landings simultaneously. Dump enough divisions on Britain's shores at once, and they won't know what to do.

[tepid crown]

Me too, didn’t do well on most of my midterms so gotta start investing more into classes now

[trim lotus]

$5 says the AI was planning a naval invasion from Dover.

[worn hollow]

Usa?

[unkempt zodiac]

nope, 1941 japan didnt do their thing yet

[patent thistle]

thanks greece for building that navy

[worn hollow]

Britain must be safe guarding

[heavy vigil]

world's most cooked army btw

[unkempt zodiac]

makes alot of sense actually

[worn hollow]

Or they won in africa

Or have no other place to fight

[unkempt zodiac]

nah bro forget that we bringing a new order to asia

[heavy vigil]

mnf;ajkflkhasefjlkhasfjkyh i hate this game

[worn hollow]

What i do is push them back in africa then buy time by adding spain and port to alliance

[unkempt zodiac]

its cus your playing as iceland

[heavy vigil]

no its because finland formed a nordic faction and if i join i get buffs but lose out on 350 weekly mp

[woeful knoll]

anyone got a mughal india guide?

[faint fiber]

let me have this!

[woeful knoll]

i cant push thru sinkaing

[unkempt zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[woeful knoll]

Mughal india without elephants might as well be the hardest path in the game without a doubt

[prisma saddle]

what od i stiil need? i made all the pope focuses

[worn hollow]

Can anyone tell me how to not lose my momentum when invading britain

[unkempt zodiac]

is the sun rising yet?

[worn hollow]

Bc when i sent my entire army to england they got pushed back and then my entire army collapsed

Into an encirclement

[faint fiber]

tibet be like "if I don't move maybe he won't see me"

[woeful knoll]

After a year or two u get another decision in that menu however it might be bugged/broken and ur in 1942

so if it doesnt pop up u need a restart

[prisma saddle]

nvm it popped

all good

[winter olive]

don't send in your entire army, just send in an invasion force and trickle troops in over time

[unkempt zodiac]

USE AIR USE AIR USE AIR

[unkempt zodiac]

lore accurate tibet

[worn hollow]

In ww2 japan actually invaded america

[winter olive]

make some naval bombers

[unkempt zodiac]

yeah a random island or something ik 😭

[woeful knoll]

Or you could build a navy and invade them after france bro

[worn hollow]

It was alaska i think

[worn hollow]

I did that

That parts easy

Its just the land invasion

[winter olive]

don't the british blow up frances fleet?

[worn hollow]

I lose momentum

[unkempt zodiac]

u can get vichy frances fleet and annex them later as germany

[woeful knoll]

Where did u naval invade

[winter olive]

did you research landing craft? did you use pioneers / marines?

[worn hollow]

How

[unkempt zodiac]

its pretty decent if i remember correctly

[worn hollow]

I never figured that out

[unkempt zodiac]

operation something something idk

[worn hollow]

Ik that but

[unkempt zodiac]

you need to take a certain city within a time limit

[faint fiber]

this is what happens when I get bored

[worn hollow]

Whats the req

[unkempt zodiac]

its in decisions tab

[worn hollow]

Toulon?

[winter olive]

when you land, don't send in your whole army

just send in as much as the port will allow for supply

[worn hollow]

It told me to send 1 divison to toulon

[unkempt zodiac]

this one better

[unkempt zodiac]

we got asuka as painter before gta 6

[faint fiber]

you didnt...

[unkempt zodiac]

I DID 😭

[unkempt zodiac]

i think so

[worn hollow]

I saw eva braun one time

[faint fiber]

its beautiful

[worn hollow]

As a pirate

[woeful knoll]

@worn hollow did you try using infantry and not tanks bro

[worn hollow]

Yeah

I usually go full inf

[clear dagger]

what about luxembourg

[woeful knoll]

try naval invade greater london area

[worn hollow]

I have 3m by 40

[safe wing]

Hull is better

[woeful knoll]

Nah bro

How

[unkempt zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-homelander-the-boys-homelander-sad-homelander-its-peak-homelander-peak-gif-14542009839452529163

[worn hollow]

I use marine corps

[woeful knoll]

U prob have a cheap template

3m by 40 is crazy

[worn hollow]

No

[unkempt zodiac]

what about luxembourg

[worn hollow]

They bulky

[safe wing]

London is asking for problems

[clear dagger]

whats their leader portrait

[worn hollow]

Ill send u it later

Im out and abt rn

[woeful knoll]

ok

[unkempt zodiac]

idk bro just luxembourg i guess 😭

[safe wing]

Anyways time to retake Constantinople from the Latin “Empire”

[clear dagger]

wait nvm found it

[unkempt zodiac]

its asuka only for deutschland

it changes nothing else

the mod

[prisma saddle]

FINNALLY

[unkempt zodiac]

they did NOT have to make chiang kai shek like that 😭 🙏

[unkempt zodiac]

ah i have this same mod

anime history right?

stalin has like white hair and stuff

[unkempt zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/chovypilled-chovy-gup-girls-und-panzer-handshake-gif-7087511589978408639

[safe wing]

The Latin Empire is this abomonation

[unkempt zodiac]

this one

[faint fiber]

everyone's favorite nutjob

[worn hollow]

Never understood this

Like

I sent one divison to every region in vichy

And it still didnt let me annex

[unkempt zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/kasane-teto-teto-kasane-freaky-freaky-teto-freakazoid-gif-5777676560481753011

[unkempt zodiac]

yeah its dumb but you get the fleet

[unkempt zodiac]

bro i have the mod too 😭

[woeful knoll]

Easialy the worst formable in HOI4, the literally focus tree to form it where u become a kingdom and u get the worst name in hoi4 "united provinces"

[unkempt zodiac]

united provinces is crazy work

[worn hollow]

I dont think i got the fleet either

[unkempt zodiac]

dw its not important anyway

its better than nothing but absoloutely cant challenge the royal navy

just build navs

[worn hollow]

It kinda is bc the german navy is terrible and i could use the french navy for a jump start

[unkempt zodiac]

its the vichy france navy

there is a difference somehow

[copper sluice]

me when I refuse to create an intelligence agency because in 1942 I can do a focus that gives me one for free

[unkempt zodiac]

i do this too

[copper sluice]

does anyone know why there only was one turn where I got points?

and why tf is every state so expensive huh

[worn hollow]

I watched an ultra germany yt tutorial and for some reason they sent volunteers to china

Can anybody tell me why 😭

[fathom shard]

GUYS

[worn hollow]

No

[unkempt zodiac]

cus chinese airports

[fathom shard]

if you start a 1936 game

as

saudi arabia

[unkempt zodiac]

HUH

[worn hollow]

Oh

[fathom shard]

AND LEAVE

[unkempt zodiac]

DID HE JUST SAY

[fathom shard]

YOURE RANKED

67TH

[unkempt zodiac]

WHAT I THOUGHT HE DID

SOCRATES

[worn hollow]

I thought u were gonna do that stupid AI stuff

[ripe slate]

Lets not

[fathom shard]

lets not what huhh

[worn hollow]

Uh

Yeah

Lets not

[unkempt zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/socrates-socrates-domain-expansion-domain-expansion-domain-expansion-gif-1437001399510962744

[fathom shard]

those are tenor gifs cmon

[worn hollow]

I think we all know

[unkempt zodiac]

so we cant philosophise now?

[ripe slate]

Only about hoi4

[fathom shard]

ohhhhhhhhhh

i forgot we're in hoi4 general

[unkempt zodiac]

does the admin powers control the man, or man control the admin powers?

[worn hollow]

Greece

[ripe slate]

People have written thesis about HOI IV soooo

plenty of possibility

[worn hollow]

Yo

Question

Can u tell me ur way of not losing momentum when invading britain as germany

[ripe slate]

If one invasion stalls, just doing a second one

[fathom shard]

if the first invasion is not your power, then comes the second one

[ripe slate]

or improving supply and bringing in tanks

[worn hollow]

Bc i plan like 5 different naval invasions and they all worked bc i mircoed them

But

I end up losing all of my momentum when I send all my army to england

[ripe slate]

i imagine sending cavalry and max 48 per invasion front would work well

[worn hollow]

Also i go full inf

I guess

[worn hollow]

I figured out tdy how to exploit anchluss in 36

I just spam 1 cav div battalion

[ripe slate]

I did it by accident because I like to go infantry-only early game, kek

[worn hollow]

I go inf only all the time

Idk how to use tanks

I beat ww2 as germany before using inf only

I end up having around 3M troops fielded by 40-41

[heavy vigil]

i need to minmax iceland again marijn

its so hard

the strike RNG is crazy

like if you dont get strikes its so bad

you lose out on like 850 weekly manpower or something

actually more like 800

but like

if you dont go for strike RNG you lose like 30% div attack or something crazy

[slow vortex]

Should I buy nsb and bba or should I get ultimate edition

[strong belfry]

Extra protein

[prime totem]

grosssssssssss

[worn hollow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/evan-burger-trevor-larkin-his-last-name-is-EfeCpU6dCSDnfgVXVW

[slow vortex]

Do I buy nsb and bba or nsb and gotterdammerung

[tulip thorn]

nsb and bba tbh

they give more

gotterdammerung has nice focus trees but the special projects really arent that useful

[heavy vigil]

missiles...

[ancient marsh]

i wouldve thought theyd have made it easier to inherit the allies as usa for the underpaid undersexed under eisenhower achievement

nope the ai just insta replaces you trying to remove requirements for changing faction leadership

[heavy vigil]

those arent mega hard requirements afaik, tho you can do it with a decision after a major war

you can form NATO

[ancient marsh]

they get practically impossible

[heavy vigil]

its not

but like, you can just form NATO after the war

which will help

[ancient marsh]

it scales with the uk, so by the time i'm close to one of the objectives uk already surpassed it

[heavy vigil]

youll be faction leader

[ancient marsh]

doesn't it create a new faction rather than rename the allies

or am i misremembering

[heavy vigil]

it renames, changes leader, gives an event to all members asking if they want to stay

im pretty sure

[ancient marsh]

also genuinely how are you deploying 11 million men as usa

that takes an unfathomable amount of time

[heavy vigil]

the only hard part is mobilizing enough

they dont even have to be equipped

[ancient marsh]

mobilizing them will take like a decade

and remember the uk also scales

[heavy vigil]

300mil? core pop

10% would be more than enough

[heavy vigil]

im aware

[ancient marsh]

its just weirdly irritating and time consuming for something that will probably just become an auto transfer when the us dlc inevitably comes

[karmic viper]

rate teh invasion

[ancient marsh]

it doesnt even do that

wow this sucks

wasted 3 hours for literally nothing

guess this waits till the usa dlc

[onyx hinge]

Is it basically impossible to assume leadership of the allies as the US after NCNS

[iron iron]

made in China

[fathom shard]

byzantine!

[drowsy bronze]

why did the soviets die so easily

[ancient marsh]

i cheesed it

that was unnecessarily difficult

[hard wedge]

what...

[iron iron]

Are people even aware of the unfunny amount of man power China has

And Japan

Cuz with all adults serve annexing all of China and Japan

Gives me 50m manpower

No commands

[heavy vigil]

china has about 480 mil jan 1st 1936

[sudden thistle]

the scale is too short

[maiden hare]

i know

[peak meteor]

Skirt isn't high enough

[maiden hare]

you right

[woven gate]

1200 hours and still the first one somehow

[maiden hare]

not everyone mutates

[woven gate]

i guess it's because my tactics are still from 1918

granted, they work well

[maiden hare]

apparently

im rocking 976 hours

[iron iron]

Real

[safe elbow]

anybody wanna play mp i dont mind how many hours u have just trying to chill open to any mods too

[weary estuary]

Guys should I make a p-1000 ratte with nothing but anti air guns? It has 486% air attack

Just throwing that idea out there yk

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/world-in-conflict-shilka-anti-air-gif-1206892096967880376

[versed copper]

I created new tactical strategy for WW2 RTS that I called "Angriffspanzer".

[versed copper]

Or "assault panzer"

Basically, it's like putting 19 German soldiers and a Tiger.

[weary estuary]

How do I make the anti air tank someone please inform me

I am struggling here lol

[clear dagger]

you add the anti air gun to it and make it from a "medium" or whatever tank it is curently to "anti air" tank

like how you would change it from "medium" to "flamethrower" for flame tank

[weary estuary]

OHHHHH

Ok lemme try

[eternal aspen]

we need more nation specific music packs ngl

the ones we have rn are very lackluster, and without mods it's boring listening to ingame music (until one of the triggers for a speech happens)

but we def need one for USA, ENG, SOV, GER, ITA, FRA, and JAP, the og majors

[rotund chasm]

I have music off, i play in absolute silence until i zoom in and get blasted by rockets and screams

[eternal aspen]

valid

where are good sources for division compositions of divisions of countries

[harsh nest]

think its time i slow down on this game

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/countdooku-justbeginning-beginning-gif-21275421

[eternal aspen]

nah

i'm at 2.3khrs iirc

it's not that horrid once you understand air

[harsh nest]

yeah def

I only play MP so I learned the game pretty quick

[eternal aspen]

valid

how interested would you be in doing a game with me going full LARP?

only asking bc i'm geeked, bored, and wanna larp in hoi4

[harsh nest]

idk about larping, but im down for a casual game, waiting for my buddy to hop off work and get on

maybe a lil larping......

[eternal aspen]

lol

i'm rn doing extensive research bc 1939, the winter war approaches

[harsh nest]

dms

[weary estuary]

Behold my new line of panzers

Navy is next

[harsh nest]

If anyone is lookin to hop in a game, me and my buddy bouta do smth, js casual

[cosmic scroll]

I am at 3k right now

[lean mica]

anyone wanna play some co-op?

[weary estuary]

Can someone tell me what the roles of fleet submarine and cruiser submarine are so I can design them accordingly

[viscid stirrup]

Never slow down

Accelerate

[tulip thorn]

Im about to get 2.5k

[opal nymph]

Long range submarines.

Fleet subs are faster i believe

[steep rampart]

What if I spam out 200 midget subs, does that work

[tranquil lion]

10

10 dudes lost

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-invincible-pathetic-gif-27565015

[tranquil lion]

Ok... however you lost 42 more dudes.

42 dudes with families

lives

[clear dagger]

yeah

and as luxembourg those are irreplaceable losses

gonna have to wait 20 more years

[tranquil lion]

Yeah it's like half your population

Battle of Jutland type scenario, tactical victory, strategic loss.

[eternal aspen]

soviet CAS/Frontline bomber of the winter war

as accurate as humanly possible

even though to make it accurate, Tupolev would need to be able to do tactical bombers

[steep rampart]

Are you basing it of the sb-2m

[eternal aspen]

yes

[steep rampart]

Good lad

[eternal aspen]

the ANT-40 was the 2nd name for the SB-2, and i'm basing it off the SB-2M-103 (as seen on wikipedia and cross referenced among other sources)

these tabs are just for the navy and airforce for the winter war

i haven't even considered the changes i'd need for the great patriotic war for the air, let alone "potential" ships that would have been built given the fact the USSR didn't get pushed hundreds of miles in a few months

[steep rampart]

What about the pe-2, wouldn’t that be considered a more effective plane

[eternal aspen]

they weren't in service until 1940

so around the time the winter war turned slightly in soviet favour

but i'll be basing that off the Improved small airframe

which i'll easily be able to afford the research for, as most the soviet navy are basic warships for hoi4

[steep rampart]

Are you gonna build warships that were built irl or are you gonna include “paper ships”

[eternal aspen]

including paper ships

specifically ones that were laid down

if they had at least a keel, they'll be put into production

as i do anticipate the germans will have a lot of steam to push my army

[steep rampart]

Are you doing a full historic kinda thing, with like as true to history division templates?

[eternal aspen]

as true to history as i can tolerate

i won't be oblivious and not have fallback lines for the stalin line or even safe areas like the dniper line, but i'm going to at least use historical divisions, equipment (where possible), and vehicles

[steep rampart]

Are you capping off division number to a certain size or can you spam out 35k t26 tanks

[eternal aspen]

going by a ratio

[dusky burrow]

pov germany in 1940

[steep rampart]

Like manpower or division number

[eternal aspen]

by division

[steep rampart]

Seems like a fun challenge

[eternal aspen]

it is

because i want it to scale with how the USSR actually was

ofc ion think i'll be able to crap out a dozen T-34's for every single one lost, but i sure as hell will try

[steep rampart]

Will you have your factory’s behind the urals before the war or will you only build them there after Barbarossa

[eternal aspen]

yes

[polar radish]

Is there any way to speeds up equipment conversion now?

[eternal aspen]

research

how much weight in explosives would y'all say is a tactical bombers bomb bay?

[polar radish]

They removed the equipment conversion tech, what gives it now?

[eternal aspen]

oh, it's integrated into the Production line

so it gives you +20% speed from basic to Assembly Line

which is +80%

plus some MIO's give conversion rate iirc

[steep rampart]

The fastest way is to research improved light tanks and make full divisions with only light tanks and nothing else

[polar radish]

Oh so it’s included in tools now alr

[eternal aspen]

yea

[steep rampart]

Will you be making tens of thousands of light tanks and armoured cars

[eternal aspen]

gotta

the 1939 division for infantry has armour car recon and 1bat of LT

my DB-3B as accurate as i can

this thing SUCKS omg

12.6 dmg on CAS or logi strike for ground units

6 strat bombing dmg

[steep rampart]

At least you get to make 7k of them

[eternal aspen]

ikr

i actually only gotta make 1500

1528 DB-3's of all varients were ever built

[steep rampart]

I thought 7 sb 2m were made in all variants, or is that the mig

[eternal aspen]

and 1500 is a lot cleaner, plus gives me time to build up efficiency for the IL-4

prolly the MiG

so take with a grain of salt, but it's roughly 1,528 DB-3's

[steep rampart]

Are you just gonna make generic versions of all tanks or have every different variants

[inland falcon]

hearts of iron 5 announcement

[upbeat tundra]

guys i made a meta div frfr

[eternal aspen]

varients for major improvements

[steep rampart]

I have favour to ask of you

[eternal aspen]

hm?

[steep rampart]

Will you make the t-35 land battleship

[eternal aspen]

i alr have

[steep rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-excited-balloon-waiting-childish-gif-11479571850392833242

[eternal aspen]

though it isn't perfect, i'd need more slots for it

also yes the MIO is even historically accurate

[steep rampart]

That’s gonna be a lot of work to do but it seems very fun

[eternal aspen]

yea, i'd have to add mods

but i'm tryna make this vanilla friendly

[inland falcon]

weird ass open beta

[eternal aspen]

"hey can you send me some T-28's? we're running thin on the front!"
"sure" (proceeds to send 500 T-28 SHT's)

[steep rampart]

Right now I’m doing a France but only light tanks, it’s really fun, but it’s gonna be a pain in the ass, I’d love a heavy tank division but I have all of my mils on light tanks

[eternal aspen]

lol i feel so bad

question, do you know what kinda armour the T-28 had? was it riveted or cast?

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

in hoi4 workshop theres a new Carriers mod

[eternal aspen]

here's a captured one from 1940 in Finland, it looks riveted as there's no screw/bolt's it's all smooth pins, like a rivet would be

[steep rampart]

Ooh that’s a tough one, I think it was riveted but I might just be thinking of the t28 e

[eternal aspen]

i'm gonna say riveted

just because this is pre-patriotic war USSR

[steep rampart]

I’m positive that it is riveted

[eternal aspen]

it's cheaper to rivet because welding takes time, and casting is bulky and slower per unit

[cedar lance]

hey

[eternal aspen]

Soviet T-28 Medium Infantry Tank

[steep rampart]

Seems to be as accurate as it is true

[eternal aspen]

howdy, yes we saw that, but currently Zakk and I are discussing designs for LARP ussr, and lurkers be lurking

[steep rampart]

Should I invest in flame tanks or is that a waste of resources for a tank only run

[cedar lance]

sorry

[eternal aspen]

nah it's alr

[steep rampart]

I’m not a lurker you don’t have to be one, just be a pervert

Be like me

[cedar lance]

i always like new HOI4 Mods

[eternal aspen]

they're not good unless heavy, but you can

[eternal aspen]

what's your thoughts of it? what does it do?

[cedar lance]

it adds new carriers and subs

[tulip thorn]

? are you saying that heavy flame tanks are better than medium ones lol

[steep rampart]

I’m using strictly Renault ft tanks, and I’ve actually pushed into Germany which is surprising

[cedar lance]

ill post the mod link in #modding

[tulip thorn]

Medium flame tanks are better than both light and heavy

[eternal aspen]

light*

heavy flames are better than light ones

[steep rampart]

Are they really

[eternal aspen]

yea

[tulip thorn]

yes, but mediums are better than both

[steep rampart]

If I can make 30 light flames for every 1 heavy flames are they really better

[eternal aspen]

fair

to both statements

[steep rampart]

Mine aren’t good at all though

It is a Renault ft with a flamethrower, and my main light tanks are Renault fts with machine guns, I’m making anti tank support companies

[woven gate]

dude that sounds sick

[steep rampart]

They are holding Italy in the mountains just fine… for now

[eternal aspen]

finally smth i can read!

[steep rampart]

You might need black ice to utilize all of this

[polar radish]

Just double checking but you can’t convert tanks between different hulls

[cedar lance]

hey yalls take a look in #modding

[eternal aspen]

yh

[eternal aspen]

you can

if you tick this box, when you get a new chasis, the game copies your design and applies it to the new hull

[foggy mauve]

wth is a black ic?

*ice

[steep rampart]

Do you know if Germany does the schlieffen plan even if I’ve done a successful ruhr offensive

[eternal aspen]

it's a mod that adds a billion levels of realism

[foggy mauve]

ohhh ok

[eternal aspen]

Schlieffen was ww1

[foggy mauve]

DAMN I MIGHT BE COOKED

[steep rampart]

Schlieffen 2 then

[polar radish]

I meant like div conversion in production

[steep rampart]

Will they do an offensive into Belgium and go around my armies

[eternal aspen]

you mean Case Gelb? they should around 1940

my brain hurts with how much reading i gotta do

[steep rampart]

Even if I’ve pushed into the sarland

[eternal aspen]

oh, then no

oh, saar maybe

historically you should be able to push it with little opposition

it was the french high command that let the nazis do so much

bc the maginot wasn't defended by germany, as it would lose its defensive abilities if the french pushed

so there was almost nothing on the maginot until 1940

[steep rampart]

Good thing I’m only playing as France, they needed a Canadian field marshal

I’ve pushed in and they’re amassing troops on the Belgian border even thought I’ve almost encircled them

It’s weird, I was always told light tanks were complete shite

[eternal aspen]

they are

but if you focus solely on them, you can WC as tuva with 1 mil

[cedar lance]

new good Hoi4 mods are always good

like ones that adds new techs equipments units Special projects etc

[upbeat tundra]

germany colony of israel

[steep rampart]

Did you make the mod

[cedar lance]

no

[steep rampart]

I think you did

I’m Peter griffin and I know everything

[steep rampart]

I saw a video of that done with Luxembourg but with regular infantry, has it really been done with tuvva

[eternal aspen]

tuva WC is possible

but many stop after siberian tiger

all i am missing is the logistic support company

this is still cancer

[steep rampart]

That’s my main division template minus the motorized, and light tanks recon

I’ve got 75 of them

[eternal aspen]

yea.. well this is what i get in 1939 until 1941 when the great patriotic war begins

[steep rampart]

I wish they’d add in the soviets invasion of Poland into the game

[eternal aspen]

they need to

make an event when germany invades poland where the USSR makes a deal with the allies

russia invades poland to "protect" polish people from the nazi war machine

allies don't join

[steep rampart]

It’s disappointing how the allies abandoned them

[eternal aspen]

not really

nobody thought germany would actually invade poland

and they closed the polish off from the sea pretty fast

[eternal aspen]

and when molotov-ribbentrop fires, USSR goes into WP with poland

[steep rampart]

Abandoned them to the soviets I meant, lwow is rightfully polish

[eternal aspen]

oh, yea that's fair

my 1941 div

i'm getting it ready now bc i know i will forget

[steep rampart]

Will you makes Soviet marines divisions or brigades

[eternal aspen]

divisions

i'll scale the brigades up to div size

[steep rampart]

Those guys are badass

They have sick uniforms

[eternal aspen]

they do

[steep rampart]

Have you thought about everything or do you have any cavalry left to make

[eternal aspen]

i've got a lot missing

like, a lot

i've gotta do the NKVD forces (only doing infantry), the horse cavalry, the motorized divisions, the special forces

they all play their role in hoi4

[cedar lance]

i like making Real life and historical units as Estonia

[steep rampart]

For navy will you follow guidelines for amounts of ships or will you spam out a shitton of historical ships

[eternal aspen]

spam at a decent amount

[steep rampart]

Make 300 midget subs

[eternal aspen]

did the soviets even use those?

[steep rampart]

I’ll see

[eternal aspen]

man i've been grinding XP here for ages

[steep rampart]

No

You’ve gotta send your tanks there

[eternal aspen]

i could

or i can save my LT's bc they are crappy divisions against germans and italians

[steep rampart]

What year is it in game for you? 38?

[eternal aspen]

december 1937

i do have the chasis for the T-34, but it will not be going into production until the fall of france

[steep rampart]

Just make a couple A 34s

[uncut dock]

Anyone now the best infantry template to invade Soviet union

[eternal aspen]

motorized infatry

[steep rampart]

Line artillery

[cedar lance]

are modern and super carriers worth it in Hoi4?

[uncut dock]

Alr

[steep rampart]

If you can make 1 then yes if you can’t afford it then no

[uncut dock]

Width?

[cedar lance]

alr

what about escort and fleet carriers

[steep rampart]

12cm

[steep rampart]

Escort carriers are, if your playing America and spam out a bunch then yes

[uncut dock]

Ok

[cedar lance]

alr

i like playing mostly as Estonia

[steep rampart]

I’m doing 30 minutes of hel tomorrow any advice

[shadow mango]

Is converting worth it anymore

Or do you just put all the factories on one design

[steep rampart]

It is, if you have good tanks it’s always worth it, if your like me making 35k shitty light tanks then no

[eternal aspen]

i'm building so many civs omg

i might go until 1939 for them bc i need so many

[steep rampart]

I hope you don’t manage to run out of coal

[uncut dock]

Has anyone played as Germany invade Mexico then attack America in 1939 then take out Britain, and invade Soviet union

[eternal aspen]

i legit can't

i'm selling so much of it on export focus

[steep rampart]

Will you utilize the international market

[toxic cypress]

i never did

i just sell my old shit

[cedar lance]

is building carriers worth it?

[shadow mango]

So as germany e.g
You make use inter war heavy tank with cheapest gun
And a medium with the cheapest
Let em build efficiency and then convert when you get the better gun

[shadow mango]

Depends on which country

[steep rampart]

I usually make the best I can at the time and then when I get more advanced research and If I have a surplus of old tanks I’ll convert

[shadow mango]

Okay thanks

[cedar lance]

alr

[shadow mango]

Why would you want to go trough Mexico kekw

[eternal aspen]

finally have 4 slots

for researching

[uncut dock]

Idk

[eternal aspen]

probably

[steep rampart]

Please don’t use brutal oppression laws on occupied Poland

Do it for my ancestors

[eternal aspen]

for that, i will specifically use use forces labour only in Lwow

[steep rampart]

Good thing my ancestor killed some commies and then came to Canada before the war

He won’t be affected

[eternal aspen]

lmao

[steep rampart]

The white army lived on in him until 1964

[eternal aspen]

i will 100% be taking the Gosproyektstroy concern just bc it's so much better

[steep rampart]

I’d be concerned if my name was that long too

[eternal aspen]

lmfao

June 10t, 1939 Trotsky will die

and I can double down on getting my nation working

[steep rampart]

If there’s anything Stalin do right it was killing trotsky, only because he had a stupid face

[weary estuary]

Ok fellas

Is the best tank combo easy maintenance + sloped armor + wet ammo storage

For the extra modules that aren’t the radio

[steep rampart]

Heavy cannon, and everything you said

[weary estuary]

I also went ahead and designed a p-1000 ratte with 480 air attack like I mentioned before

I named it the mobile anti aircraft bunker but in German so it was some long type of word

[steep rampart]

Mobiler Flugabwehrbunker

Seems expensive

[weary estuary]

I splintered off a save where I added a bunch of army xp with the console command just to try it

I wanted to try maxing all tank types

[steep rampart]

What year will you produce it by

[weary estuary]

I’d have to check lol

[steep rampart]

You should be like me and make 35k light tanks

[cedar lance]

i have millions Of ALL techs and equipments

[weary estuary]

I honestly thought that damiler Benz MIO was the best one but MAN had better stats

Benz was better for standard production but MAN outclassed it everywhere else

[steep rampart]

I don’t know what mios are, I click the upgrades that look cooler and I use the mio with the cooler logo

[weary estuary]

I try to click the upgrades that seem like they’d be smart in a historical context, like anything standardized or maintenance related

Cause as we all know

Soviets didn’t win IRL by having a better tank, they just spammed good enough tanks to win

[cedar lance]

i will Produce ALL Techs and equipments

as Estonia

[steep rampart]

Do a Ironman world conquest and post a YouTube video, I’ll like it

[cedar lance]

alr

[weary estuary]

They need to buff mini subs

[prisma saddle]

yo guys

[prisma saddle]

they exist?

[weary estuary]

I want to be able to spam a bunch of them as a costal defense

[weary estuary]

Yea it’s a special facility project

[prisma saddle]

39 tech?

[weary estuary]

Idk

[prisma saddle]

ohh ok

what they have different form the normals

visibility ig

[weary estuary]

They have like no naval dominance at all

Like 2 or smth

[prisma saddle]

damn

[weary estuary]

Versus a normal submarine

I’d think 30 mini subs would be better than one normal one if for example you’re fighting in the Aegean where it’s shallow and there’s a bunch of islands and inlets

[prisma saddle]

in the shallow one is +100% sub visibility

[steep rampart]

That’s my I make like 300 and have all set to convoy raids, and my main fleet as strike force, if the enemy fleet is spotted by convoy raiders my main fleet can attack it

[eternal aspen]

crap i'm late for winter war at this rate

[weary estuary]

That’s actually hella smart

[eternal aspen]

5/35 days for baltic security

@steep rampart as an idea for why i'm deciding to use the paper fleet too

no nvm, i'm right on time

molotov ribbentrop right before i get baltic security is accurate

[weary estuary]

I literally do not think I’ve played as the Soviets a single time

[steep rampart]

You need to get some naval bonuses from the focuses

[steep rampart]

It works better with cruisers subs but they’re more expensive

[weary estuary]

Just out of curiosity cause I’m away from the computer does Portugal have a focus tree or is it just the vanilla one

[steep rampart]

Yes, I think it gets one with a dlc or smth, I saw a video with a Brazil Portugal empire

[eternal aspen]

without the french-spanish DLC, no, but iwth it they have a decent focus tree

[weary estuary]

I need that South American and middle eastern DLC

[steep rampart]

Do any of yall collect military stuff

I’ve spent too much money on it

[eternal aspen]

man the USSR basically had their infantry on trucks for their mot div

[eternal aspen]

i wanna

[steep rampart]

What do you think of this

[eternal aspen]

sexy

[weary estuary]

That’s cool!

[steep rampart]

Spent wayyy to much money on my two Bulgarians in the back

[weary estuary]

I don’t judge I’ve spent 400 dollars multiple times on real katanas

[eternal aspen]

i wanna go to verdun to get ww1/2 stuff, as well as stalingrad and the rhine (screw the modern name) for some memoribilia, while also paying respects to all the med and boys who lost their lives fighting a pointless war over a country who was in a bad time

[steep rampart]

I really really want a cavalry sabre but I’m not ready to dish out 1000& plus on one item

[eternal aspen]

so the USSR never used mountainners from 1939-1945

[steep rampart]

I really want to go to the Netherlands and visit the war cemeteries so I can see a dead relative, he died 4 days after his 24th birthday

[eternal aspen]

mb no they did

[steep rampart]

I don’t see why they’d need to, unless they were gonna fight in the urals or the Czech mountains

[steep rampart]

Will you be prepared for the Manchuria offensive

[eternal aspen]

yes

[weary estuary]

I think special forces wise I’ll focus on the paratroopers and rangers

[eternal aspen]

mfw stalingrad region has mountains or smth

[eternal aspen]

USSR used mountaineers and paratroobers mainly in ww2

rangers were more USA in japan

[weary estuary]

One thing I do is whatever country I’m playing I name all the ships and units authentic names cause it helps with the immersion

[steep rampart]

Stalingrad can’t fall so mountaineers better be good at climbing buildings

[eternal aspen]

it won't

i'll use tanks and CAS out me arse

as well as enough bombers to flatten the city

anyways, gn for the night, fiance bitchy at me

[steep rampart]

Your a grown up?

[eternal aspen]

Yea

Tbf im also autistic for this typa shit, so I cant say "well I dony have a job", plus im in school bc dropping out

It is not worth it

[steep rampart]

No it is not I’ve showed myself that, good thing I’m young enough to have gone back

[craggy trail]

I had my first playthrough with the new China content today (historical path). It's pretty crazy. I will say though that it takes really long to integrate all your puppets though. In the meantime, you just have a bunch of 70 day focuses to complete @heavy vigil

[foggy mauve]

so guys

after I get the fate of czech what do i do should i make slovakia a puppet or take it compleatly

[safe wing]

Make Slovakia a puppet because history

[tardy pivot]

give it to Hungary

[rare crow]

I never knew that hoi4 uses the Stalin era Soviet anthem for the radio

[eternal aspen]

Slovak puppet

[honest night]

Take completely

[rare crow]

There's nothing in Slovakia that's really worth it.

So puppet

[honest night]

There is factories there quite a few actually

[rare crow]

I mean yeah but your Germany, you already have a large industrial base

[honest night]

Yeah and more factories don’t hurt you?

[rare crow]

.. no, they never hurt

[honest night]

If you have a option for extra factories you should take it

[rare crow]

Okay fair enough

[heavy vigil]

sometimes it can be pretty unhelpful

but theyre good

[honest night]

Wdym by this?

[heavy vigil]

what if you have no resources, or theres attack buffs/wargoal/its bad for flipping government like idk japan has that

[rare crow]

is this a good fallback line as the soviets? I want to try something

[safe wing]

no

[honest night]

If you have no resources extra factories means you can buy more, idk what you mean with the second point

[safe wing]

hold in central Ukraine near the big river in Kiev (Dnieper)

[honest night]

Remember Crimea btw

[safe wing]

like this

[rare crow]

okay but I do that every game I just want to do something new

[honest night]

I would recommend also holding Kiev itself in this

[safe wing]

true my drawing skills are bad though

[honest night]

XD

[rare crow]

thats usually pretty good

[slow vortex]

I have enough money for 2 dlcs I have la resistance already
what should I go for?

[safe wing]

No step back and By Blood Alone

[honest night]

No step back atleast idk for the second

[rare crow]

gotterdammerung

and no step back

[safe wing]

or Arms against Tyranny

No step back is mandatory

[rare crow]

if you want funny big tanks, get no step back

[slow vortex]

what does it add?

[ripe slate]

Yeh and if you take Latvia you can nicely do this

[rare crow]

Paths for Austria, Belgium, Congo, and alt history paths for germany

and special projects

[ripe slate]

Germany/Austria/Hungary/Belgium/Congo tree changes and extra special projects

[safe wing]

IK that trick which is why I rush the Baltic war goal focus as Tsarist Russia even

speaking of time to get Tsar Bomb

[rare crow]

this better?

[slow vortex]

I like italy is there any dlc?

[safe wing]

yes

[safe wing]

by blood alone

[rare crow]

By blood alone

[safe wing]

which also includes the plane designer

and more peace conference mechanics

[slow vortex]

is therer monarchy

[heavy vigil]

like idk i think research, politics and other foci that give combat stats usually are better than eco

[honest night]

Idk what focus your thinking of I can’t think of any like this in vanilla

[heavy vigil]

germany

theres prob plenty

[honest night]

What in Germany?

[heavy vigil]

im just a bit forgetful

[heavy vigil]

army branch germany

no eco given many combat stats given

[honest night]

Neither of those give Factories tho?

[safe wing]

yes

and you can reform Rome even as Monarchist Italy

[honest night]

Plus you do eco focuses first anyways you don’t say go day 1 for army focuses

[buoyant portal]

What would be a mod that makes the ai more capable?

[honest night]

Sheep mod

Makes the ai way stronger than before

[heavy vigil]

i would id rush the wargoals

:3

if allowed

[honest night]

And why would you rush them? For more factories

[rare crow]

Also do I stick with Stalin? Or go one of the alt communist paths? I already did the path of Marxism-Leninism

[heavy vigil]

i would rush them to kill enemies faster

[buoyant portal]

does it use meta divisions?

[heavy vigil]

and ig you get factories from that

[honest night]

And you kill then to gain their factories

[heavy vigil]

no i kill them for fun

[honest night]

Not exactly meta but it’s the closest the ai will get

[heavy vigil]

but yeah

[buoyant portal]

I see, thanks.

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[heavy vigil]

factories are something you get when capping nations

maybe

[honest night]

That’s a silly argument atp you can say navy is the best focus to go as it’s fun lol

[dusky burrow]

nearly full river line

that said

you can just push germany

[heavy vigil]

navy is meta to sealion trvst

[honest night]

Real

[safe wing]

gonna play Tsarist Russia for the bomb achivement on non historical

shouldn't be too hard

USSR/Russia gets nuclear research bonuses right?

[rare crow]

It should

And by that I think it does

[safe wing]

sorry I'm half asleep rn

[rare crow]

No worries

[prisma saddle]

yo best navy doctrine?

[fair horizon]

didnt even rename them smh

[rare crow]

thats a big fat lie

[heavy vigil]

do u like it :(

[fair horizon]

of course

[heavy vigil]

my game is straight up frozen because it hates me

im just trying to iceland

[fair horizon]

probably not counting as ones you can us edue to compliance

iceland was so boring id want to play it but it was just sit on my island and do nothing

[heavy vigil]

im giving up

thats because youre not meta

no but my RNG this run was soo bad tho

ok so

my strat is kind of a lot of RNG but its also like its like tech yk

you go fascist and then you want strikes

to go communist

so you get all the fascist buffs

but also communism

[fair horizon]

im not meta? 😭

[heavy vigil]

and then if you make a faction you also get 350 weekly men from nordic alliance focus

[heavy vigil]

you dont know how to play iceland

[stoic fiber]

boi time for my favourite part of a campaign

walking through brazil

starting at willemmstead btw

[heavy vigil]

no like its TAS

[stoic fiber]

love this game cuz brazil and australia is a major

[fair horizon]

ai australia became a major?

[stoic fiber]

yes

its 1946

im running out of manpower cuz i cant do eu since i forgot to declare on luxemburg

[prisma cradle]

normal ai day

[lilac hull]

@hollow mulch

[hollow mulch]

Yo

[fair horizon]

i dont remember having taken over argentina but w/e

[rare crow]

Every man a general apparently

[stoic fiber]

sending the entire german fleet to australia from america without suez 😭

simply lovely ❤️

[prisma saddle]

swiss and greece are like just there

and not forget about luxemburg

[stoic fiber]

i can intergrate greece

but swiss and lux

i justified on lux 3 times

i keep forgetting

and the war goal runs out

somehow not 100% world tension

even tho im at war with the rest of the world

right this game is playing with me

[fair horizon]

i always seem like i have to go to service by requirement as fascist nations :/

[rare crow]

Is the open beta just a navy tweak?

[heavy vigil]

so far yes

[rare crow]

Okay then I have no reason to play the open beta then

[prisma saddle]

wait

open beta?

[safe wing]

if Ukraine goes independent all their cities will be in their native tongues now

[shadow mango]

yall think anybody gon play this?

[inland falcon]

zip bomb

[slow vortex]

is ultimate edition worth buy?

[inland falcon]

please someone open that file it'd be so funny

[safe wing]

<@&846894118219022336> possible zipbomb alert

[heavy vigil]

can you confirm

lets not post suspicious files XD

[safe wing]

I ain't risking 5k dollars

[inland falcon]

i wouldn't trust the jesus pfp number guy who just joined and dropped a shady google drive link with anything but its really really funny

[fair horizon]

motorized takes less exp loss?

[heavy vigil]

fine its deketed

]deletedc

i can spell

[tropic ridge]

@hollow mulch

why would i want hitler as argentina leader

[shadow mango]

fair enough

is there a way to verify it isnt suspisious

like record a video or put it trough a virus checker thing

[vital cove]

you get cores on Germany

you used to get free nukes but not anymore

[tropic ridge]

germany hates me gng

they dont want me

[vital cove]

you do get battleship technology tho

[vital cove]

kill them?

[tropic ridge]

yeah im sure i can beat germany with 21 divitions

💀

[vital cove]

get more

[tropic ridge]

im making 3 per year gng

[fair horizon]

i hate ground combat

[tropic ridge]

what u expect from Argentina

[fair horizon]

cant even beat a single infantry div

[vital cove]

Argentina is big

and you get cores on all pf south America

[tropic ridge]

it isnt

horrible industry

also u need todo alot of changes to get a good country

[vital cove]

not really

[tropic ridge]

bc ur industry, army, equipment, research, are bad

[vital cove]

its a decent size minor

[tropic ridge]

im playing multiplayer

[fair horizon]

argentina is great wym?

[vital cove]

oh

that's another story lmao

[heavy vigil]

you could just post the straight game save ? it usually has a big HOI thing in it

like this

[vital cove]

supply moment

and probably terrain moment

also those are TDs aren't they

not really ideal against inf

[viscid stirrup]

87% of the words in ukranian, russian, and belarussian are the same

theyre all dialects

[heavy vigil]

hi jfish

jish

[fair horizon]

yeah but its ONE infantry div

[viscid stirrup]

hi

[safe wing]

I knew this its like how Italy and Germany were before they unified and the dialects began to disapear to a degree

[stoic fiber]

might have to call it quits

there is zero chance im going to saf

[vital cove]

Italy and Germany aren't really the same
German dialects are a lot more dialects than the Italian languages

[viscid stirrup]

all the languages are getting consolidated

[safe wing]

I didn't know this is as dialects aren't my area of expertese

[shadow mango]

its a folder containing like couple of different things for a coop

[viscid stirrup]

eventually well all have one single language

[safe wing]

gonna stop here for now because I'm bored ATM

I killed Poland BTW

and yes its non historical

[viscid stirrup]

monarchism🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[stoic fiber]

this game sucks

i had entirety of na at one point

[viscid stirrup]

i agree

[stoic fiber]

had to go cap saf and australia

came back and us has 200 div

[fair horizon]

might have to take out uruguay because it kinda looks like a tumor on my empire

[proud hemlock]

is this good for a first time player

[safe wing]

Time to play medivial 2 JLMP kingdoms

[spring relic]

heelo

may i ask why is mass assult good for big nations

[spring relic]

collab?

if no collab then bad

[eternal aspen]

how would y'all say I can represent the T-35's in the Separate Heavy Tank Division?

since idk how it'd work with little to no org

[spring relic]

do a 8/10 div

[eternal aspen]

k

[spring relic]

but add 2 heavies

8 meds 10 trucks and 2 heavies

1 heavy is good though imo

[shadow mango]

ye

aaaaaa

i read is mass asult good

[eternal aspen]

also for the infantry in 1939? it's 9/2, with a LT, and MT (BT-7 and T-28's used for infantry support)

[shadow mango]

kekw

[eternal aspen]

the BT-7 was a cavalry tank, and the T-28 was very similar to a driving mg nest

[spring relic]

do 9/0 good enough

[eternal aspen]

fair

[spring relic]

wait are u larping or wanting good divisions

[eternal aspen]

larping

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/aot-meme-aot-bp-larp-larping-gif-3516451944322480910

[fair horizon]

the hordes of peruvian men took brazil

[slow vortex]

Im gona refund general edition and buy ultimate for this game

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[eternal aspen]

it... wants mot.AT...

[slow vortex]

does anyone know if steam refund takes longer than 3 days because I dont want to buy when the sale is gone

[grave sonnet]

I sadly don't know since I haven't refunded anything

Best thing I can do is search up

[eternal aspen]

wait, Tank Destroyer... i can work with that

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/w-larps-w-larp-larp-larping-larps-gif-6157911013843603897

[grave sonnet]

Motorized is literally just block car

[toxic cypress]

i want my dam money

fym pending

gimme that shit

u took the game back already

[grave sonnet]

It's annoying smh

[toxic cypress]

fr

its 1-2 days btw

[slow vortex]

when do they give back

[grave sonnet]

1-2 days why can't they just instantly 😭

Gabe bro you gotta lock in

[toxic cypress]

prolly bankl shit

[slow vortex]

steam support is usually goated maybe U are on their coal list

[eternal aspen]

motorized actually means that it transports the brigade by mot/mech, so you can technically motorize marines (Amtracs)

[toxic cypress]

its prolly for fraud checkig

[grave sonnet]

Probably

[toxic cypress]

some people buy on credit after all

[grave sonnet]

My favourite terminator

[toxic cypress]

if they gave u straight after refund

[grave sonnet]

"my account was hacked help"

[toxic cypress]

basically just money laundering

[grave sonnet]

Get a message "the hacker is terminated"

[eternal aspen]

so a motorized anti-tank gun would be an ATG being towed by a truck

[toxic cypress]

or fraud

[slow vortex]

I bought with wallet am I fine?

[toxic cypress]

no idea

i rarely refund

my funds is cause i sell my cs skins

[grave sonnet]

I never refunded in my life

[slow vortex]

my friend once refunded 8 games in a day

[toxic cypress]

i need to buy another 160 case

u took out 30 from my contaner

[grave sonnet]

Holy

[fair horizon]

236k for brazil

[slow vortex]

steam will reject once u refund all the time

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[toxic cypress]

my friend did that

bum

[slow vortex]

they will say buying and refunding is not for testing

out stuff

[toxic cypress]

what did you think wll happen

[fair horizon]

chat help why do the allies have all the steel

[grave sonnet]

Because they own places with steel duh

[fair horizon]

YEAH WELL WHY DONT I OWN THOSE PLACES?

[grave sonnet]

Also maybe they aren't on free trade so they hording it

[fair horizon]

RIDDLE ME THAT

[grave sonnet]

Atac them

Take the places

[fair horizon]

i aint even got a real army

just a few hundred thousand peruvians with sticks

[limber jackal]

1941 germany vs USSR

[fair horizon]

look at this garbage

[limber jackal]

shoot wrong chat

[grave sonnet]

True

[grave sonnet]

Yeah....

[limber jackal]

how could this have possibly happened

[fair horizon]

sorry brasil