hoi4-general

[upper tendon]

Montenegro is the average wife?

[grave sonnet]

Ex wife that wants you ruined 👍🏼

[upper tendon]

True

[grave sonnet]

Also ur army has a crazy deficit at the start

So you Bassicly cannot attack Montenegro

If the event fires

[upper tendon]

Cant u do a fall back line to make montenegro army not capable of putting men in every tile?

[grave sonnet]

Turks lack Napoleonic equipment/ clothing

They are just naked men

With swords

Running at you

[grave sonnet]

The mod has custom peace events

If you take territory

Like if you play Prussia

[upper tendon]

Oh

[grave sonnet]

And push austria

It will white peace

And you will gain

The little Germanic nations

Same with Denmark if you push them

[upper tendon]

I hate custom peace deals sometimes

[grave sonnet]

You get a peace deal

[echo basin]

Ohhh soo it hides them?

[upper tendon]

Yes

[echo basin]

Oh

Cool

[grave sonnet]

Better than Having Turkish Austria that's located in Zimbabwe

[upper tendon]

True

But would be better if could disable for player nation

[grave sonnet]

Eh

I like it sometimes

Depends on my situation

[upper tendon]

Yeah

[grave sonnet]

If I'm trying to make the ai do stupid plays and idk Montenegro gets too much territory and white peace's and forms the Balkan union

If I'm trying to make the ai do stupid plays and idk Montenegro gets too much territory and white peace's and forms the Balkan union

Then I'll hate it

[prisma saddle]

guys id this a good ship?

for beat the uk in the canal as italy

[grave sonnet]

I genuinely have no clue

[prisma saddle]

😭

[upper tendon]

I think it good

I never do navy tho

But stats seem good

[prisma saddle]

YEA IT SI

[grave sonnet]

Yk you can just ignore Mediterranean (first put Ur navy in germanys port ),help Germany rush France and blitz naval invasion the UK in 40 early

That's how I do it

[upper tendon]

Ur bombers might do alot of the dmg

[prisma saddle]

i hope

[prisma saddle]

yea

[weak magnet]

hi

can anyone tell me how to sort of predict guarantees?

for example in my germany wc im gonna try justifyo n netherlands early after getting ribbentrop, since thats free

my other one will be nationalist spain for sure, but maybe i can pull of portugal too?

When i do with poland, they get guaranteed

i know 21%+ is nearly guaranteed for the UK to start guaranteeing people

[copper cobalt]

if you generate world tension or if world tension is high enough the democratic countries will start guaranteeing

so you could go f it we ball and declare anyway or start justifying against random countries

they will waste pp to guarantee them

Then you cancel and justify against the one you want

Tho you should try to fight them instead of trying to cheese

Unless the us is involved

[weak magnet]

man i cant beat the uK navy thats why

they are too powerful

[copper cobalt]

Paradrop

[weak magnet]

yeah thats why i go for netherlands

so i can produce a lot of

planes with their rubber and oil

[copper cobalt]

The UK army isn't that good you could just hold out till you can

[vapid bough]

what did they do to india.....

[copper cobalt]

If the famines raging then the map isn't the worst part

[upper tendon]

India thought it was china

[copper cobalt]

Did they change the name of Tibet in the new doc?

Dlc?

[prisma saddle]

epic

[steep ivy]

Is there a way to get rid of the state modifier on Shanghai?

the one with -35% invasion defence and -15% manpower representing the Shanghai international settlement?

[inland falcon]

no

[quick hare]

shitty balkanization

[wide osprey]

😟

[copper cobalt]

Every Ethiopia releasable gets their own generic focus tree but doing so for the Indian releasables it wouldve been too much effort

[sinful leaf]

haiii

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-discord-gif-6912537559157918304

north korea wtf

[fair horizon]

guarantees must be between same ideology countries, cant guarantee a fascist country as a democratic nation (i think unaligned is the exception to this)

[opaque zinc]

I need to get more achievements in hoi4

But I’m sooooo lazy

I don’t wanna try

I just wanna click click click

On my focus tree

I don’t wanna

[ripe slate]

You also need to play

Without mods 💀
In ironman mode 💀

[opaque zinc]

Ye

I made a mistake on a carlist Spain run

And the worst part is it was my earliest like Spanish civil war

For carlist

I beat it like mid 1937

But I made like one mistake

[upper tendon]

They so fast to get

[opaque zinc]

Not for me because

I’m bad

At the game

[upper tendon]

Bribe enemies

[opaque zinc]

What

I want to get polish achievements

But I’m too scared to play Poland

I have like monarchy is back in fashion it’s 1812 all over again the bell tolls for us stuff like that

[upper tendon]

It aint scary to play poland

[opaque zinc]

I’ve never like sunk a British pride of the fleet before or anything

Should I do nationalist Spain

And do the like achievements to take Paris before Germany

[grave sonnet]

If anything Poland is fun to pkay

[opaque zinc]

And do like a

[grave sonnet]

Considering how Overpowered they can get

[upper tendon]

Do anarchist s(pain)

[opaque zinc]

British Invasion or something

[opaque zinc]

No

No achievements

[grave sonnet]

Especially Romanov

[grave sonnet]

Spain is fun

I like the civil war

[upper tendon]

Ik

[opaque zinc]

Does anarchist Spain have any achievements

[grave sonnet]

1

[opaque zinc]

I do like the Spanish civil war

[grave sonnet]

And its winning as them

👍🏼

[opaque zinc]

Oh I’ll do that

But not rn

I’m gonna do some fascist Spain stuff I think and I’m gonna just try to do the achievement for carlist Spain

To own all French cores

But that’s so difficult

For me

[grave sonnet]

Ic

[opaque zinc]

Because the Spanish navy isn’t like good enough to invade uk

[grave sonnet]

It's easy

[opaque zinc]

And the air force

[grave sonnet]

When I did it

[opaque zinc]

Is also not good enough

[grave sonnet]

I did it first try

[opaque zinc]

Bruh

How

Obviously France is like pretty weak usually

But

What about uk

[grave sonnet]

Well Germany is shite

They don't know anything

It's easy to kill them

[fair horizon]

sure it is, you might need to augment it a bit and play against the ai but you can easily beat it

[grave sonnet]

Yes because the ai goofy and makes mistakes

[opaque zinc]

I am more goofy than the ai

And I make more mistakes

[grave sonnet]

Keep trying

You will eventually get it

[opaque zinc]

I’m at like 400 hours

[grave sonnet]

Hours don't determine skill

I know ppl with 600

That could obliterate ne

Me*

[fair horizon]

i mean you just gotta use your fleet in areas you would think otherwise to do so

[opaque zinc]

But for the two lands one king or whatever to own all French cores how

Just how

Like idk how to do that

[fair horizon]

cap verde plain and you can just kinda convoy raid them with your battleship fleets

[opaque zinc]

Is it worth it to try in the English Chanel

[heavy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/man-i'm-tired-tired-cat-tire-caption-meme-gif-6427457483111934614

[opaque zinc]

Or

Do I do it in the North Sea or whatever

Like around Scotland

[fair horizon]

not unless you're actually winning

[opaque zinc]

Isn’t that bad for supply

[fair horizon]

they prioritize protecting the british isles

you attack somewhere else you beat them for the most part

[opaque zinc]

What

[fair horizon]

they'll gut their fleet moving screens around

[opaque zinc]

Ok

I just how do I like

Build up a navy as carlist Spain

[fair horizon]

this si the area id fight in

[proud snow]

Guys how to use navy?

[fair horizon]

build up light cruisers or like go carriers if you feel like it

i wouldnt bother with battleships as heavy attack is kinda mid rn

but you should have 4 capitals?

2 CA 2 BB?

[opaque zinc]

I don’t know I’m not playing it right now

[opaque zinc]

I also don’t have ncns

Or gotterdamrung so

Ai is different I think

For uk

I only have la resistance and no step back

[fair horizon]

Yeah thats fine

i dont have ncns either

[foggy mauve]

just bought the game crashed out 10 times but on the 11 th game i finally won my first war 🥳

[fair horizon]

i beat the japanese navy with this -1 carrier as australia

they're a little weaker than britian

[foggy mauve]

does any one have any tips for new players?

[fair horizon]

like the ai doesnt use its fleets well and will dump all its screens into patrolling for a strike force until they're out of the m'

[foggy mauve]

oh ok

[upper tendon]

Get rid of ur wife and play hoi 24/7

[foggy mauve]

bold of u to think i have a wife

[upper tendon]

Get wife

[foggy mauve]

step 1 pls

not step 2

[upper tendon]

Touch grass

[surreal mist]

Research Guns

Research Tools

You wont go wrong by having a research slot dedicated to both of these in like, 90% of games

[foggy mauve]

did u look at my pfp i wont be doing that more

[foggy mauve]

how do i reasearch tools

wdym by "tools"

[surreal mist]

far left of industry research

[novel beacon]

How active is the community for this game? Do ya'll do multiplayer/coop on the daily?

I cracked and tried it out and while I'm shit at controlling armies I did like the economy building

might actually buy the game if there's people I can play with

[fair horizon]

tools is the left side of the industry tab

[foggy mauve]

its fun

[fair horizon]

starts with this one

[foggy mauve]

ohhhh k

[inland falcon]

"wow, I won a Naval battle? I sure hope it wasn't between my entire navy and two japanese Cruisers that were doing God knows what"

its so annoying why do they just do two cruiser fleets

[fair horizon]

tbf its not entirely unrealistic

[inland falcon]

i want glorious naval death wars on the high seas

[fair horizon]

but the old system felt better because they would fight you

gotta hunt their fleets down and port strike to get grand battles now anymore :/

[weak magnet]

i think you can play coop with some people and enjoy it

but if you play multiplayer its not fun in that way

its more like how every other game becomes minmaxxing and forbidden rules and all

[little owl]

How do I form the HRE as Monarchist Germany?

[warm furnace]

you need to get the kaiser but delete your army so the netherlands rejects the requestand take wilhem III instead, than you need to go down the accept british naval dominance path and also take the decisions to sharpen air safety regulations, modernize succesion laws, and reinstate the prince's right of succession

once you go down the british naval dominance path you will gain a decision to restore old british titles, send victoria as a liason and than you should unlock the focus

[novel beacon]

? Then how do you play

also was more asking in general if there are people to play with

how alive is the game

[ripe slate]

Quite alive

[ripe slate]

See multiplayer category

[novel beacon]

I can see what I assume is one group playing rn

[ripe slate]

You should first learn the game though, or specifically say that youre very new

[novel beacon]

well yes

but it's most fun with other people

one last thing

if I want to make nuclear yugoslavia I only need gotendamerung right?

[little owl]

Ok thanks

[lethal ether]

you dont need any dlc for nuclear weapons

[warm furnace]

i would say before you form HRE if you can form european federation so you can core parts of france and stuff that you cant core with HRE but it isnt that deep if your not trying to do world conquest

[turbid thorn]

can someone help

why i lose against germany

[tiny iris]

It could be a million different reasons.

Be more clear.

[turbid thorn]

?

[warm furnace]

what country are you playing as?

[turbid thorn]

unio

and they capture me in like 3 sec

[zenith charm]

unio?

ah

well

[weak magnet]

i mean that if you play multiplayer it is not the same feel as you feel now

[zenith charm]

is your air stable or do you have aa in your divs

[turbid thorn]

i using air

[zenith charm]

cn you send screenshots

[turbid thorn]

about

[zenith charm]

your frontline

[weak magnet]

Your divisions have low strength and they outnumber you with full supply

[zenith charm]

well i see that
your frontline is very thin compared to the german line: you don't have enough troops to hold
your troops arent fully equipped which is a issue as they wont fight with full force
unless you have like 5k cas and green air you won't hold the germans especially if no tanks to make a concentrated push

[weak magnet]

Even if your air is green or good with CAS, u will lose there

u need to spam divisions and create lines as USSR

U will win the war of attrition but they wont

[zenith charm]

something you could do is retreat to the vistula and blow up the railways to concentrate your divs more

[turbid thorn]

so what should i do

[fair horizon]

chat guess the country

[weak magnet]

bulgaria

[zenith charm]

make a defensive line to the vistula and blow up railways west of the river

[weak magnet]

or finland

finland

[fair horizon]

nope

[zenith charm]

other than that pray that you have green air and tanks soon cuz you'll need them

[zenith charm]

hungary maybe

[weak magnet]

na hungary has like 8mil people

[zenith charm]

hmm

[zenith charm]

do you have equipement to fill your divisions

or spam atp

[turbid thorn]

where i see

[zenith charm]

in your production tab

the gear thing i think

on top left of the screen yk

[heavy vigil]

he does not

[heavy vigil]

15 on guns is really low

[turbid thorn]

?

[fair horizon]

its ireland btw

[molten portal]

what i have to do

[zenith charm]

take factories away from artillery to guns

and support equipement

you have too much

[zenith charm]

yes nice

also tanks how many tank divisions do you have

[turbid thorn]

0 i think

i dont have temp

for it

[zenith charm]

how are you out of tanks then are you using the base soviet ones?

[turbid thorn]

so i dont do

[turbid thorn]

yea

idk what troops i need to use

[molten portal]

why i cant take this " The naval faction has at least one influential member."

[zenith charm]

ok take thoses and put them all in a single tile away from the frontline and click this button to merge your divs so you have less but better equipped

[zenith charm]

navy faction needs to be influential you can see how it is in the imperial influence thing

[zenith charm]

this

[turbid thorn]

should i start a new

[zenith charm]

yea unless you have backup troops they will keep pushing

[molten portal]

how i can do

[zenith charm]

you can click on the endorse or supress buttons

[tiny iris]

I dreamt that I played Black Ice.

[turbid thorn]

ok what should ido

[molten portal]

ah thanks

[prisma saddle]

how do i even breaktrhought all this

[grave sonnet]

Look at air

& Supply is killing you

[fair horizon]

by using divs that have equipment?

a lot of those are missing quite a bit of equipment

also you got quite a bit of ground id stop using all your units to attack so some can get entrenchment

[grave sonnet]

And org...

[fair horizon]

org is probably from coming over the ocean

[grave sonnet]

Probably

[turbid thorn]

and can someone help me ?

[grave sonnet]

Ur divisions have no eq

[fair horizon]

see those orange bars? they need equipment

[grave sonnet]

And no org

And Ur pushing into Slovak Mountains

[turbid thorn]

how i gonna give them

[grave sonnet]

Make the orange juice bar go up

[grave sonnet]

With equipment

Also ur supply

[turbid thorn]

its up

[prisma saddle]

i cant win air as italy

[grave sonnet]

AI design is poop

[grave sonnet]

You can easily

Obliterate

[prisma saddle]

no rubber

ok

[grave sonnet]

Talk about a surplus of goods

Also

Put some off

Trucks

[turbid thorn]

this gonna be enough

[grave sonnet]

You have 11K

[turbid thorn]

for equipment

[unique latch]

You dont need that much bruh

[grave sonnet]

Use the rubber

On planes

[grave sonnet]

You have no guns

That's the problem

The Germans have something

[unique latch]

Ur navy is just dead aswell so supply cant be transported

[grave sonnet]

You don't

[turbid thorn]

?

[grave sonnet]

The -27k

Guns

[turbid thorn]

how you get back it

[unique latch]

Make more

[grave sonnet]

You make more guns

[turbid thorn]

this not enough?

[grave sonnet]

Or you can change Ur occupation law

[unique latch]

And stop pushing when ur stockpiles are trash

[grave sonnet]

Talk about 1 gun for 2 men 😭

[fair horizon]

if you have a deficet of 27k no its not enough

[turbid thorn]

its ju

st go up

bruh

[tiny iris]

Guys, is 30 minutes of hell in BlackICE even possible?

[grave sonnet]

Halt Ur offensive

It will go up

[unique latch]

It just go up is not how the game works bro

[grave sonnet]

And then you attack

Also don't

Attack with infantry

[grave sonnet]

Bice is hell

Italy

30 days for 1 tile

I still have horrors

Of it

In my mind

[clever shuttle]

i was trying to do an fun non historical anarchist spain world conquest but what the f is ts, like what am i even supposed to do? i own italy but everyone else is allies

[tiny iris]

So 30 min of hell is not possible?

[unique latch]

Just dont

You do nothing

[grave sonnet]

Everything is possible

[unique latch]

Thats what you do

[clever shuttle]

wdym?

[grave sonnet]

It's just extremely difficult

[clever shuttle]

no

you get cores

[turbid thorn]

?

[unique latch]

Not that way bruh

[grave sonnet]

Stop attacking them constantly

[unique latch]

No way bros capping the entire world

[clever shuttle]

wdym i do tho

[unique latch]

You restart ur game

[tiny iris]

Well, I'll do anything if it doesn't involve going outside and talking to people.

[clever shuttle]

yea thats kinda bs

[grave sonnet]

I already know that

[clever shuttle]

i can maybe use nukes

[unique latch]

Ur run is ded bro

[clever shuttle]

nah bro

[winged field]

nukes... a lot of them....

[clever shuttle]

like russia will soon probably be kicked then i core them

then china

then japan

[unique latch]

You cant just core them

[grave sonnet]

"nah bro" starts justifying

[unique latch]

You need to kill em first

[clever shuttle]

wdym?

[stoic fiber]

is japan nd allie fighting

[clever shuttle]

yeah ik

[unique latch]

You cant even reach russia 💀

[clever shuttle]

yea

[stoic fiber]

then maybe u hve a chance

[clever shuttle]

naval invasion or smthing idk

[turbid thorn]

i stop but its still

[grave sonnet]

They are attacking you

[stoic fiber]

kill italy too since it has its own faction

[unique latch]

Bro has 33 divs

You think he has navy

Prob not

[turbid thorn]

now not but its dont

[unique latch]

Just wait till allies help you out

[stoic fiber]

where's ur front line bro 😭

[turbid thorn]

i deleted it

maybe its go up but no

[stoic fiber]

also wheres ur tank or motorised

doent sov start with 12

[clever shuttle]

i coul build anti tank division and just drain them

[turbid thorn]

like

[clever shuttle]

space marines

will maybe take years but they will have no men left

[stoic fiber]

holy fuh

why didnt u puppet poland

[unique latch]

Dude

Just release poland as puppet alr

[turbid thorn]

becasue germany joined and

i cant

[unique latch]

Wdym you cant

Ur occupying land for no reason

[turbid thorn]

how

[stoic fiber]

occupied territory

[stoic fiber]

in country tab

[unique latch]

Yea say bye to ur supply

Your navy is ded

[stoic fiber]

o are u still at war wit poland after capping them

[unique latch]

You either need to sacrifice ur fleet and kill uk before they reinforce the island or make a navy

[turbid thorn]

idk

[clever shuttle]

do u need air superoity to make succsful nukes

[turbid thorn]

ger got the last tiles

[stoic fiber]

boosts the raid's chance

[little owl]

Do I need to do this to form HRE

[clever shuttle]

icmbs then?

[unique latch]

No you keep the male line

Alpha males better

[little owl]

Wut?

[turbid thorn]

so how i gonna get guns

[unique latch]

You make them bro

[turbid thorn]

its dont do

[stoic fiber]

u retreat back

[woeful knoll]

Yes

u need to do all the decisions

[unique latch]

Wdym its dont

[woeful knoll]

btw make sure hindenburg didnt crash

[unique latch]

Just put more on guns

[turbid thorn]

its go up not down

[woeful knoll]

if u didnt click the aircraft safety decision restart

[turbid thorn]

?

[stoic fiber]

retreat back to a defensive line and hold until allie bail u out

[woeful knoll]

make a garrison template bro

3x2 cavalry

with mp

[molten portal]

guys what do i do to dominate the area i dont undestand the update

[woeful knoll]

every ship has an amount of naval dominace

[turbid thorn]

???

[woeful knoll]

ur number needs to be bigger then the enemy

[stoic fiber]

keep ur fleet on patrol in that sea

[woeful knoll]

so if u have a battleship with 500 dominance and the enemy has 750 dominace u arent in control

in order to get dominace put ur fleet on patrol

[woeful knoll]

make a new template with 6 cav and mp support and click the little divison icon in resistance and make it the new template

[turbid thorn]

am i cookin

[stoic fiber]

put a calv division with mp as the garrison so u dont lose as much gun and stuff

[turbid thorn]

o

[woeful knoll]

yeah but research mp too

[turbid thorn]

mp?

[woeful knoll]

and make it red arrow

[woeful knoll]

military police in support research

[turbid thorn]

and what

[woeful knoll]

yes that is good

[turbid thorn]

should i do

[woeful knoll]

also

[turbid thorn]

wtih tihs

[woeful knoll]

put it as ur garrison template

in resistance menu

also get collab goverments with spy agency

[woeful knoll]

yes bro thats good

[safe wing]

I wish I had free time to make my own France reworked mod

[turbid thorn]

and what should i do with this

[woeful knoll]

go to resistance menu

[turbid thorn]

i dont have that dkc

[safe wing]

I would give the player the option to continue the war from Algeria if they get capped

[woeful knoll]

this

[turbid thorn]

o

ye

[woeful knoll]

now clcik the helmet icon

[turbid thorn]

ye

[woeful knoll]

and put your new horse as it

that makes it your garrison template

[turbid thorn]

in up

[prisma saddle]

YO

[woeful knoll]

yes

[turbid thorn]

and why is this good

[woeful knoll]

supression stat

also cheaper

[fair horizon]

i love playing default tree nations

[turbid thorn]

should i do this with every country

[woeful knoll]

so ur infantry has 10 suppression for 10k guns and 20 artillery weekly

but your new garrison has 20 supression for 5k guns

so its better

[woeful knoll]

yes

[turbid thorn]

italy iss good?

[turbid thorn]

?

[woeful knoll]

?????

what do you mean italy iss good

[turbid thorn]

with tihs

[woeful knoll]

are u making them a garrison'

[turbid thorn]

ye

[unique latch]

Nah its very bad template never use only garrison

[turbid thorn]

i want for it

[woeful knoll]

yes its fine but u cant rlly make stuff for ai

[turbid thorn]

k

yo

[fair horizon]

bruh

[little owl]

Do I need Burgenland to form the HRE?

I think the Austrian Question gives it to Hungary right?

[woeful knoll]

KAISERREICH REFERENCE IN VANILLA HOI4

[woeful knoll]

WTF did you do

How much r u garrisoning?

[turbid thorn]

i changed to my other

country

but i deleted some troops i needed them

[woeful knoll]

did u unpause as italy

[turbid thorn]

for

special force

[woeful knoll]

show ur game map

[turbid thorn]

i need france

but i cant get it

idk why

[woeful knoll]

what are u playing

[turbid thorn]

italy

[woeful knoll]

and wdym u need france

[turbid thorn]

like i want to do smth

and i need to get france

but france always get me

[woeful knoll]

let germany take out france

justify on vichy

[turbid thorn]

he is ally o fger

[woeful knoll]

and take out vichy and take their navy

what

[turbid thorn]

yea

then i need uk

and its not work

[woeful knoll]

what the hell are you talking about

whats your end goal

you only need meditaranian to form firstly but

heres my strat

[turbid thorn]

?

i do moun

?

[woeful knoll]

that my strategy

[turbid thorn]

what

[woeful knoll]

read it

follow it in that order

[turbid thorn]

can you type it

or its with u?

happened

[woeful knoll]

bro my stuff is broken

i dont see any of those messages from other ppl

i dm u

[turbid thorn]

ok

[tiny iris]

First time playing BlackICE, so excited:)

[safe wing]

Get out while you still can

[unique latch]

Noooo

[safe wing]

BlackICE aka realism torture the mod

[unique latch]

I hate mods that sacrifice everything for realism

Fun goes right out the window

[safe wing]

Same

[tiny iris]

I am obsessed with strategy, not fun.

Are they fucing kidding me?
It's limited conscription, chill out.

[grave sonnet]

The India coloured United kingdom is so weird

[unique latch]

Its the best

[fair horizon]

best part about being a minor nation with no resources is that free trade is a benefit

[steel zephyr]

italy never fails to disapoint

tuff division

[slow vortex]

Greetings guys I have la resistance as my only dlc whats my next priority to get

[green lodge]

Guys

[nocturne radish]

Mod name?

[green lodge]

First come back game

What should I play 💀

[tiny iris]

BlackICE.

[green lodge]

Hmm, greece ?

Ok greece

[nocturne radish]

Hellll no

[tiny iris]

Try it out.

Atleast once.

It will be fun.

[grave sonnet]

I would go for either NSB or BBA

[nocturne radish]

I’ll pass 🗿

[nocturne radish]

Dont want to play with -900 debuff cause of a mountain

[grave sonnet]

Yes 👍🏼

Also

Prioritise going into Africa

You move extremely quickly

[nocturne radish]

As a german cool name!

[steel zephyr]

so cool an army of it smoked romania 🤤

once i clear up the balkans i gotta bail the italians out

[nocturne radish]

Good luck

[steel zephyr]

battleplanned the army of flammen-division to neutralize romania, serbia soon gonna go

[fair horizon]

oh

[steel zephyr]

but italy as italy does went to civil war

[prisma saddle]

yoo lord admiral

[fair horizon]

hi

[prisma saddle]

hru

[fair horizon]

im fine

[prisma saddle]

all good?

nice

[prisma saddle]

since tehyc hanged the british navy the best ships are stull the light cruiser with max light attack?

[fair horizon]

they're fine yeah

[prisma saddle]

because they vaporized mine

😭

[fair horizon]

what was your design? did you have any other ships in the fleet?

[prisma saddle]

it was the italian fllet and the design is this

[fair horizon]

probably got dumped on by the british carriers

[prisma saddle]

mh so i need more anti air

[fair horizon]

not necessarially

have capitals in the fleet and make them AA boats

i dont have bbs researched on this one but imagine this is a battleship

a few of those and carriers are not an issue

[prisma saddle]

oh super anti air

why no armor?

[fair horizon]

and that is the strong part of the british fleet

cause i was lazy and i dont have bbs researched

so on a bb you're forced to do armor

[prisma saddle]

oh ok ok

[fair horizon]

bb have high surface vis which makes planes target them more

[steel zephyr]

boom

[fair horizon]

so like make the littoros and the other battleships italy starts with have aa or something

also did you have fuel?

[prisma saddle]

yea

romanian one

[fair horizon]

like that yeah

[prisma saddle]

thank you admiral

🫡

[fair horizon]

plus if you really need planes just do naval bombers from land since you're pretty much just gonna fight for the med

[prisma saddle]

alright

[scarlet pier]

is there a way to get 1000+ soft attack SF without cheating?

[fair horizon]

slight miscalculation made but britian came to bail me out ❤️

[scarlet pier]

cuz that number seems insanely high

[steel zephyr]

comeback

[atomic grove]

why need 1k soft attack to win

[scarlet pier]

? wym

[atomic grove]

terrain buffs and breakthrough exist

[scarlet pier]

gotcha

[atomic grove]

1k soft attack is overkill

[scarlet pier]

i just vsed someone who had 1k soft attackl

[atomic grove]

planning already buffs every attack stat

[fair horizon]

chat rate the div 😎

[scarlet pier]

and wanting to know if its legit

[safe wing]

1k Soft attack is this

[scarlet pier]

wym

is it legit?

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-one-punch-man-saitama-gif-6192880

[graceful kayak]

what is this for bud

[scarlet pier]

yea I got fkn clapped

[steel zephyr]

goddam brits allowing there to be a france

[fair horizon]

wym is it not clear? smh

[scarlet pier]

had green air and got walked thru

[fair horizon]

ITS SO CRAP lmao

[knotty vortex]

how to win as finland 101

[grave sonnet]

Every plane getting shot down

[fair horizon]

aint doin nothing else

[knotty vortex]

guys how to win as finland

no shortcuts

[fair horizon]

beat the enemy before they beat you

[knotty vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flight-yikes-flight-meme-gif-12822158462297009384

i appeared to have had a lack of manpower problem

[grave sonnet]

https://youtu.be/YHTAcRNCJ9s?si=dTPF0zLHQZeCfinA

[scarlet pier]

white finland -> form nordics -> delete russia during barbarossa

[knotty vortex]

how about i destroy nordics and create greater finland

[grave sonnet]

You can kill Germany

In a blitz

[scarlet pier]

I mean yea but I find it more fun to take back what is rightfully urs first before u worry about stinky germany

[knotty vortex]

do i need high public trust even if im going democratic

[grave sonnet]

I worry about Stinky Germany because they have good industry I can use

[knotty vortex]

i dont really understand the feature

[grave sonnet]

Yes

[scarlet pier]

true

[grave sonnet]

It gives you buffs

[knotty vortex]

okay thanks

[safe wing]

You need this guy

[knotty vortex]

that seems like a classic finnish name

[safe wing]

He heard the USSR was pretty strong

[grave sonnet]

Al he's too strong give the ai a little chance atleast

[knotty vortex]

i fear i dont understand any of the hoi4 jokes

i need explanations

[knotty vortex]

its kinda difficukt

nobody trusts this guy

[grave sonnet]

You gotta lower

Extremist parties

Popularity

To get his trust ul

[knotty vortex]

bruh this is not fair

[knotty vortex]

im doing the decisions and everything

[grave sonnet]

You gotta wait

It doesn't go off instantly

If that's what Ur thinking

[knotty vortex]

ive done the focuses

[knotty vortex]

no but its still so high

[heavy vigil]

whats the build

[grave sonnet]

.

Here's the build

[heavy vigil]

theres a vision and i dont hate it

whats the tank design

also fix the supports

[young lake]

Finally figured out how to early Anschluss 💔

[heavy vigil]

ill do an ireland game

[steel zephyr]

larp continues

babarosa next

[young lake]

Ive never actually seen Italy do bad in my games 😭

[vocal bolt]

is this w div

[heavy vigil]

its dlc dependant

with all dlcs they dont cook

but less dlcs and italy is better

[steel zephyr]

yea

I got all dlcs

very nice fighter design for me

always served me well

[young lake]

I just have Götterdämmerung, La resistance, No step back, and By blood alone

Idk which help or hinder Italy

[heavy vigil]

same

[steel zephyr]

greece fumble..

the other is hollan

netherland

[young lake]

Mefo bills pmo

[snow rain]

not enough range, swap the useless electronic for extra range

[steel zephyr]

not useless

reduces night penalty

but sure ill increase range

actually i cant

too much weight

[celest dirge]

observe(spectator) command mess with AI behavior? So what should I do to observe AI in their normal condition?

[vocal bolt]

what does ai do when you pull them into war early

how does that affect their focus progression

[unkempt zodiac]

the glorious asuka reich

[safe wing]

Mymy from ongezellig be like

https://tenor.com/view/legendary-battle-worthy-opponent-finally-a-worthy-opponent-our-battle-will-be-legendary-gif-14616660

[unkempt zodiac]

i fully strengthened all of the ai btw

the ussr had like 11mil casualties in the end

[woven gate]

worth the buffs though

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[steel zephyr]

😭 second time italy fractured, it ain't even under threat

I suppose me annexing south tyrol is what did it

shouldve just annexed the whole thing next time

[languid patrol]

are map mods fixed yet

[fair horizon]

HOLY CRAP THAT HORSE IS MASSIVE

[unkempt zodiac]

bulgarian tanks are for some reason also massive

[fair horizon]

:)

[turbid thorn]

best dlc

[safe wing]

NSB or BBA

[turbid thorn]

bba?

[safe wing]

No step back or by blood alone

[azure palm]

I just had the idea "Hey, playing Fascist Communist China would be cool". Then I started thinking.

[turbid thorn]

götter?

[untold shoal]

What country is currently the strongest minor, with non historical path? I wanted to play 1v2 versus my two friends but because they aren’t really good at the game I offered them to play major countries and I’d pick some minor one, what are the best picks to have a fair chance at winning?

[safe wing]

3rd best

[safe wing]

Poland on non historical mode

[unkempt zodiac]

100% no step back

[turbid thorn]

what blood give

[safe wing]

Plane designer and the ability to steal navies via peace conference

Also Italy, Switzerland and Ethiopia focus trees

[unkempt zodiac]

yeah but nsb literally changed everything else 😭

[safe wing]

True

But I would prioritize the 4 DLCs NSB, BBA, AAT and GDR

Then NCNS and after that the country packs

[novel beacon]

isn't it gdr for icbms

should've clarified, intercontinental nuclear yugoslavia

[safe wing]

ICBMs not atomic bombs

[novel beacon]

you can make icbm nukes tho

those I meant

sorry

[safe wing]

With gdr

[novel beacon]

that's all?

[turbid thorn]

götter is more and its price not betteR?

[novel beacon]

honestly dlcs are a bit of a mess

[safe wing]

Gdr is special projects, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Belgium and the Congo

[novel beacon]

like what should you even buy on steam

[safe wing]

yeah

[safe wing]

Attila total war for the 1212 ad kingdoms mod

[turbid thorn]

what götter do

[novel beacon]

I need my commercial reactors too I love them, they're cute

[safe wing]

This @turbid thorn

Steam and GoG my beloved

[turbid thorn]

which give u eye

[novel beacon]

I meant which dlcs should you get

for normal gameplay

[safe wing]

Tbh they are grossly overpriced

[novel beacon]

yeah

I can tell

which is why I tried cracked game first

[safe wing]

I Would get no step back, by blood alone and and then arms against tyranny first

[novel beacon]

normally you'd have a bundle with all content up to latest dlc and it be like 40 or 60€

so you know, normal people can join in

but I can see this isn't one of those games

[vapid bough]

mod

[buoyant portal]

if you're willing to spend 100 euros and want all the expansion packs i would suggest the big nations bundle along with buying by blood alone and la resistance.

[safe wing]

For my good ol Rome total war and medivial 2 which I got on gog for a combined total of 20 usd it’s called a gold edition

I got 2 classic games with all the additional content for 20 dollars

[novel beacon]

sounds like a dream

[fair horizon]

Y I NOT ABLE PUPPET

[novel beacon]

I assume I can't play multi with cracked so I might just grab the 18€ thing and gdr for nukes

[buoyant portal]

imo if you want just the bare minimum, by blood alone is good for the plane designer and no step back for tank designer.

[upper tendon]

I think some ideologies cant puppet or smth

[unkempt zodiac]

cus you already took everything

[fair horizon]

nope

[unkempt zodiac]

idk or your games broken

[fair horizon]

that was the first round

[unkempt zodiac]

im like 99.5% sure thats not true

[snow rain]

democracies liberate

or change governement

[unkempt zodiac]

how come america can puppet japan

[upper tendon]

America built different

[fair horizon]

communism

[buoyant portal]

i think it depends on the type of democracy

[snow rain]

change governement create a puppets iirc

just a low tier one

[fair horizon]

i think its because it was a 3 way war

[vocal bolt]

is line arty that bad

[buoyant portal]

not really, from what i know it's bad as it is not as efficient compared to it's production, but it can deal quite a bit of damage.

[snow rain]

well, idk, probably linked to one of your country rule

[fair horizon]

games just borked or its part of the 3 way war

[sly venture]

I always take like 3 minutes to name my divisions

[snow rain]

motorized div :(

[novel beacon]

they are not in for fun are they

[upper tendon]

It would take me 30 mins per letter

[unkempt zodiac]

why is bro touring serbia

[weak magnet]

hmm i keep struggling to paradrop in the uk

any tips as germany?

i take netherlands before anything, and by 1940 can take out the entire RAF practically, so the issue is that i just get destroyed when i land and cant take a port successfully

[fair horizon]

i forgor to take myself off free trade...

[weak magnet]

should i maybe take a few more months to build up airbases and all and send CAS and stuff?

[snow rain]

create good paratroopers, not the awful starting ones

[fair horizon]

so im playing ireland that doesnt have any resources anyways so i was on free trade and now i have resources...

evil economy law

[weak magnet]

i have artillery and they are 36 width

[timber laurel]

hey guys

i have a question

how do u dominate as a minor nation

my special forces are always so weak

[fair horizon]

make good units

[timber laurel]

but they are good

[fair horizon]

you dont need many good attack divs

[timber laurel]

i make 30 width mountaineers

with a single tank for the armor

[fair horizon]

yeah that isnt that good...

[timber laurel]

why

[fair horizon]

because armor is averaged out

[snow rain]

you have light flame tanks with loads of breakthrough ? only using gun 1940 tech in those divs ? are those divs lvl 3 in experience ? you have all other support companies ?

[weak magnet]

yes i do, breakthrough no tho

how do i get breakthrough?

[timber laurel]

wym

[steel zephyr]

1941

[timber laurel]

if i do a high armor tank the armor in the division will be lower ik

but like still

it should have like 30 armor

[weak magnet]

yes level 3 also, support companies yes, but which ones should I have?

I do, artillery, logistics, field hospital, engineers, and flame tanks

however i think i swapped field hospital for recon or something. not sure, but more or less thats what it was

[fair horizon]

does it?

[timber laurel]

i think field hospital and logistics dont matter

[weak magnet]

oh

[timber laurel]

yes i do high armor med tnaks

[weak magnet]

i thought logistics would matter most for paradro;

damn ok

[fair horizon]

but does the division have 30 armor?

[snow rain]

this but full of paras and engineers instead of pioneers

[timber laurel]

yes

[fair horizon]

it still gets pierced by tanks so

[timber laurel]

yeah thats the problem

[fair horizon]

or anything with aa support

[weak magnet]

noted ok i will try agian

in that case

how many paratroopers, and whats the way to do it?

[wide osprey]

why are you using trees as soldiers

[weak magnet]

do i drop around naval base, then attack?

[timber laurel]

it beats regular infantry but loses to tanks

[fair horizon]

crap ally troop even has anti-tank

[timber laurel]

how do i make a division that holds agaisnt tanks and beats infantry

[fair horizon]

right because tanks actually have stats and breakthrough lol

[vagrant hinge]

no stop why would u do that...

[snow rain]

ai isn't smart
or we would all be using anti tank

[fair horizon]

im not saying it is, im saying 30 armor is borderline worthless

[weak magnet]

maybe anti tank inf with arty?

[fair horizon]

crap german infantry pens it too

[slow vortex]

hello guys I am going to buy the game with these 3 dlc no step back, by blood alone and la resistance are there any other dlc I need just for starting

[weak magnet]

my line holders are always pumped up

i think those 3 are the best

[timber laurel]

hey can u help me

i ne,ed a special forces template

[weak magnet]

la resistance is my favorite if you stick with it, the spy system is very fun

but it might be overwhelming, the g ame is very overwehlming

[timber laurel]

i cant afford that as a minor

[weak magnet]

are u just defending?

[timber laurel]

no attacking too

[weak magnet]

u could just scum it and increase ur armor

[timber laurel]

for territorial expansion

[weak magnet]

then put a tank with high armor in ur divs so they cant pierce

just like irl

xd

[snow rain]

which one

[fair horizon]

most infantry can pierce low armor divs

[timber laurel]

mountaineer

[weak magnet]

if u put a few tanks its ok

[steel zephyr]

a month later

[weak magnet]

4 medium tanks with high armor

diabolical inf

is it even inf at that point

[snow rain]

if you can't have rangers as well ,just use full mountaineers and if you're attacking mountains, don't exceed 32.6 combat width

[fair horizon]

no anti-tank and just improved aa and this easily pens low armor divs

[weak magnet]

do AI use anti tank in their divs?

[fair horizon]

yes

[timber laurel]

why armored recon and not normal recon?

[weak magnet]

oh damn

i thought these systems were mostly prefabed for user

my bad

[weak magnet]

also will re-ask

how should i approach paradropping in the UK

[fair horizon]

space marines arent meta for a reason

[timber laurel]

then why do people use space marines if u only need 1 anti tank?.

[weak magnet]

I was trying to encircle dover

[fair horizon]

they dont lmao

[weak magnet]

but this wasnt working well

[fair horizon]

like if they have a tank its probably flame or recon support because sometimes the minors dont use stuff that pierces

[weak magnet]

im also trying to find a nation to scum early on with netherlands

[fair horizon]

but not for the armor anyways

[weak magnet]

but i dont think its possible

as germany

i take the netherlands early as a puppet, makes life easier

[timber laurel]

why not naval invade?

[weak magnet]

the UK

this is impossible to me

air on the other hand is very feasible

[timber laurel]

im pretty sure if u prepare ur naval invasion beforehand

even if they have naval superiority it launches

[weak magnet]

what

i dont understand wdym

[timber laurel]

ok imagine

[weak magnet]

i saw bittersteel do something where he sacrficed his navy to invade the UK

[timber laurel]

before taking poland u set up ur naval invasions on northern UK

[weak magnet]

yes

[timber laurel]

you put ur navy to patrol the areas it'll go through BEFORE u go to war

which means u get naval superiority

[weak magnet]

ahhh i get it

so you mean

[timber laurel]

cuz the AI wont contest it till war

[weak magnet]

ill have the dominance

then i do it immediately

hold on

[timber laurel]

then u launch and the UK wont respond fast enough

[weak magnet]

I could do this in the e nglish channel, too then

[timber laurel]

yeah but wouldnt u be at war with the UK

because u took france

[weak magnet]

nono

i take the netherlands

immediately

i use ribbentrop justify thing so i get before 21 world tension

they become my puppet

[timber laurel]

try it

but the british fleet would already be in the channel

they'd jsut have to deploy

[weak magnet]

true this makes sense

[timber laurel]

try it from the north sea