hoi4-general

[fair horizon]

If you get any, premium vehicles are good for grinding. Thats what i did with the italy air tree

[lime mist]

Guys is it important that as I capture more places that I build supply hubs and railroads connecting them

[lime mist]

in those places

[cedar lance]

alr

i like German empire in Rise of nations

[heavy vigil]

i have the tigris.

thats it

[cedar lance]

it has SO MANY TECHs and equipments units etc

[heavy vigil]

and also some american tank i dont care to play

[fair horizon]

Good tank

[sharp gulch]

wrong game bro 😭

[heavy vigil]

wdym

[sharp gulch]

this is hoi

[lime mist]

Guys should I take over the aussa place right by ethopia while fighting ethopia or wait till after if I conquer ethopia

[lime mist]

Or just dont take it over>

[heavy vigil]

yeah?

[hoary pecan]

guys whats the new meta for naval invading uk, what ports?

[fair horizon]

Abandon ethopia and depose mussolini

[heavy vigil]

dover lets you kill garrisons and leave safely

[fair horizon]

Any if your units arent bad

[heavy vigil]

just encircle it

portsmouth is a bit hard

plymouth is like dover but to the left

hull is for when no air

[fair horizon]

I prefer invading in the north

[hoary pecan]

so whats the best south

[heavy vigil]

all 3 at once

[hoary pecan]

i usually invade dover and portsmouth but apparently its not good now

[hoary pecan]

ports and plymouth?

and hull?

[heavy vigil]

just the whole southern coast

with air

should be good

[hoary pecan]

ok

[fair horizon]

The more you invade the better

[hoary pecan]

i used to be able to easy, but the new updates changed it

[cedar lance]

@fair horizon hello

you should Def check out the Rise of nations mod

[fair horizon]

Lore accurate chinese navy

[delicate hamlet]

real

didnt even steal a single navy

[fair horizon]

torpedo destroyers moment?

[fair horizon]

Not my fault i didnt see it

[quasi osprey]

[delicate hamlet]

I used roach destroyers and light attack spam on light cruisers

[snow rain]

what happens when 3 to 1 odds

[weak magnet]

Yes

Objectively

Are you on civilian difficulty?

[delicate hamlet]

I mean I had trash capitals and no carriers

[snow rain]

capitals have a hard time hitting fast ships and their carriers had no planes on them (well, there was 2 of them on 7 carriers)

[delicate hamlet]

I mean this

AI's navy system should be fixed

[steel zephyr]

might play an actual tank game as reich today...

all my other reich games i just use support flame tanks for the breakthrough and armour

[steel zephyr]

does france ever react to rhineland?

played quite a few non-his games, haven't seen a reaction yet

[patent thistle]

they have the chance to react but they never deny it in my experience

i have seen it ONCE, in my entire game career

[steel zephyr]

oh wow

just remilitirized, no reaction

[patent thistle]

and i have been playing since like 2019 or so

[steel zephyr]

I suppose all they though is protest

classic french

do nothing but protest

[patent thistle]

its the fr*nch what do you expect?

they are always a pain in the ass

even modern day

[steel zephyr]

only started in 2025 christmas

a bit over 500hrs

been playing a lot of germany recently but before then only did minors like latvia, finland and hungary

yet to do the other majors

[unique osprey]

paradox add anticheat fs

every mp lobby getting crashed 24/7

[honest night]

Just play disc lobbies

[steel zephyr]

does diplomatic pressure increase chance of anschluss

[quasi osprey]

[lime mist]

guys will the years keep going or will it end at some point

[quasi osprey]

[jade ore]

time will never stop

[trim lotus]

There is an "end" in 1949 when it pops up the score, but you get to continue anyways. Other than that, my assumption is that eventually there'll be some sort of integer overflow.

[jade ore]

oh u meant in hoi4 lol

[safe wing]

Fr*nce was tough until the Revolution made them weak

[patent thistle]

censor that disgusting word

[fair horizon]

Ty Al

[patent thistle]

good.

[quasi osprey]

[safe wing]

What Hitler dreamt about in 1942

[safe wing]

Oh German empire

[patent thistle]

time for some suffering. ig.

[fair horizon]

Why did you leave the dutch alive

Take them too

[quasi osprey]

dont have a wargoal on them

[safe wing]

Thoughts on the Empire of Nicaea?

[patent thistle]

??

[safe wing]

Are they better than F*nce

Why am I even asking this

I know the answer

[patent thistle]

anything is better then Fr*nce

[slim nexus]

[safe wing]

It has more prestige than Fr*nce being a Byzantine successor that eventually restored the empire in 1261

[patent thistle]

too bad the ottomans arrived and ruined the fun.

[lime mist]

I finally won my first war

[safe wing]

Nah that was Andronikos II

Ottomans had their work cut out for them by him

He disbanded the navy and most of the army when Anatolia was under serious threat

[orchid pewter]

come mp1

guys

[light goblet]

why does this tab consider china a major

[winged field]

congrats

[light goblet]

🧐

they clearly are not

[safe wing]

Because they can become a major once they unite China

[light goblet]

still

they arent

a major

in 1936

[safe wing]

They totally aren’t

[light goblet]

🧐

[safe wing]

But they 100% would be if they controlled modern Chinas borders in 1936

[light goblet]

which they

didnt

👀

[safe wing]

Well Communist China did

[light goblet]

its time to torture myself anf play csr

[safe wing]

In 1949

[light goblet]

wow

[lofty yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/jamcat-spongebob-squarepant-shower-money-gif-11807509709588091757

[fair horizon]

Livin it up there

[light goblet]

historically accurate

chinese people after calling the deadliest civil wars ever a rebellion

[quasi osprey]

💀

[light goblet]

ok at least the csr doesnt kill every single person in their country

unlike

the union

take your time

[iron iron]

How do I add units to an army without reassigning the army

[fair horizon]

select the units and right click the general

[iron iron]

Cheers

[lime mist]

Does anyone have tips to beat Ethiopia faster because I finally conquered them but it was in 1941

[fair horizon]

What

Did you not use your planes?

[lime mist]

They wouldn’t do anything

I had them assigned to an army too

[fair horizon]

Did you use your mountaineers?

Did you give them a task btw?

[lime mist]

How do I do that

[fair horizon]

They'll sit around any units around an army too so if you manually micro them they're better

[lime mist]

K

[fair horizon]

Click the close air support button

Right click region in rang

Profit

[lime mist]

Alright ty

[ocean flume]

Yo, ive got a question is there a mod that just adds post ww2 content to the vanilla game? Like cold war focuses, mechanics etc.?

[iron iron]

What

[vocal bolt]

how

[snow rain]

use the bombers you start with
send more divisions and delete all cav and tanks to get gun stockpile

then just battleplan or micro

[vocal bolt]

no like

how does it take that long

[cedar lance]

hello

what are yalls MOST fav hoi4 mod?

[vocal bolt]

hoi4 irl

[cedar lance]

what

[ocean flume]

?

[fair horizon]

Sigma of iron but it needs updated

[jade ore]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3413890094 this adds research i guess

[vocal bolt]

name of mod

[patent thistle]

time for some suffering

[patent thistle]

lets be honest this might be my only naval game i go with subs

[jade ore]

its only the hoi4 ai really suffering

[jade ore]

you can kill the entire worlds navy with that anyway

[patent thistle]

ye i meant that i usually go surface fleet

[jade ore]

ik lol

subs are superior

except for shallow sea....

[fallen garnet]

How do I do operation sealion

cant get naval superiority

[plain halo]

stuck in spain even the war is over

[jade ore]

hope your weekend is going week guys

[viscid stirrup]

ussr is just pulling all the strings

[viscid stirrup]

of course you do

[fair horizon]

🤮

I wish subs were better than they are

Lemme pull off stuff like operation pedestal where i can get eagle

[dire quail]

Third day trying to get this achievement and it seems pretty hard ngl, any suggestions how to get it ? Should I join axis and help them first ?

[cedar wyvern]

yall have an infantry brick template

[fair horizon]

Nah just take over the world

[steel zephyr]

maginot larp crashed the game

[weak magnet]

Wtf is this new ethopia system with italy?

Whoever thought of this needs to be fired xD

[fair horizon]

Wym?

[weak magnet]

Like if you dont capitulate them in time you have to stay messing with this weird system to supress them

[cedar wyvern]

hello uhh how do i activate the fire rises

[fair horizon]

If you have any difficulty capitulating them in that time idk what to tell you

[weak magnet]

regardless

stupid system

anyways, you need to kinda cheese it to be that precise

[fair horizon]

No you dont? Just use mountaineers and air

[weak magnet]

cheesing

[fair horizon]

Its ethopia they have no guns and manpower

[weak magnet]

damn

are you married to paradox? Xd

[fair horizon]

If using air is cheesing then idk what to tell you bud

[weak magnet]

this is one of their shenanigans they like to pull off

just like coal

[fair horizon]

Its not even a new system

[weak magnet]

bloat my game...

i know its not

i just dont use italy enough

[fair horizon]

Or air it seems

Or good units

[weak magnet]

hahahaha

you need help

it is obvious this is overzealous

[fair horizon]

Gl with fighting a minor nation 👍

[weak magnet]

i dont know what else to tell you

xD

[weak magnet]

if you read what im saying you'd know i dont mean that

[steel zephyr]

price of poland, baltics, france and yugo

[weary lagoon]

"All DLC"

look inside
no asia DLC

[vocal bolt]

we might have a roblem how do I fix this

I may or may not be at war with england as czech

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[fierce grotto]

hello fellas

[outer nymph]

i have played hoi4 for like 150 hours now. and today i realized there's a button called strategic deployment which i've never used. no wonder why my divisions from the west took forever to reach eastern borders as ussr lol

[random needle]

Is this good for a eu play thru

I’m winning a lot

[wooden agate]

I would like a word with a PDX rep, over serious issues once again

[steel zephyr]

yikes

[trim lotus]

First time this has happened (prob because of the update): playing USA, Japan sank every single one of the 27 early/basic subs I had in the Pacific.

I've reaped a bloody toll in return, but wow, every single one of the submarines I had there.

[light goblet]

astonishing performance

[trim lotus]

You've probably already figured this out, but strategic deployment does kill their organization. It's best used for long-distance moves, where it's faster to get there soon and then spend a few days re-organizing.

[woeful knoll]

Right vs left oppoition, which is better?

[trim lotus]

(The one other use for strategic redeployment is when your armored units run out of fuel)

[woeful knoll]

also for snaking fast

if u need one more vp

u can strat redeploy to it

but if they get caught the unit isnt coming back

[trim lotus]

So much like the use of my ELITE SPEARHEAD DIVISION template (composed of one cavalry battalion)?

[steel zephyr]

can the RAF even come back from this wow

[trim lotus]

Rookie numbers.

(Granted, this was me as USA versus a mega-Axis)

[steel zephyr]

not enough british planes to get such numbers 😢

on a 16>:1 kdr in the channel

[trim lotus]

Part of my issue on that one was just capturing enough French airfields to get my air force up. With Britain going communist, I kinda had to yolo my invasion across the entire Atlantic Ocean.

[patent thistle]

what the hell do you expect me to do i dont have the naval industry to compete with the entire dam world

[fair horizon]

Tbf is that before planes?

Like timewise

[patent thistle]

i like to have something on the seas + planes dont have he range to attack the atlantic

[patent thistle]

1937 the world will declear on me

[fair horizon]

which mod is it?

[copper sluice]

guys who else is excited for hoi4 full release??

[trim lotus]

Anywho: I can't be the only one to find it funny when adding a medium flametank company to your 36W marine template still gives it enough armor to reduce damage from many AI infantry templates.

[patent thistle]

ragnarok 1937

i am gonna try and cheese it

[fair horizon]

wait thats actually kinda cool ngl

[trim lotus]

You can lay some groundwork and get it done faster by pumping fascist ideology in Czechoslovakia.

[patent thistle]

i just Beg this doesnt start the war early because the focus before make the czechs go into civilwar

[fair horizon]

it does make it so any ships you'd make have to be your own which is kinda cool

[patent thistle]

only bonus i added is this which is a small mod my friend made just so he can use the oder line

also yes austria is already gone

early anschluss

[prisma saddle]

someone good with italy? like formed roman empire how you invade the uk

[steel zephyr]

reich

soon to cap uk, 50k in total for the war

[cedar lance]

hello

is the RON mod still worth to play

[drowsy karma]

Is it normal for Germany to join the Chinese United Front

[woeful knoll]

nice historical accuracy

japan is now unable to push past bejing

why do they do this?

holy japan nerf lmao

[prime totem]

what the

no it aint normal

[woeful knoll]

do they have quingdao/tsaoting

that would be probally the only reason

[quasi osprey]

If I am a non aligned nation that wants to expand more but is limited through lack of world tension and the only large war is the chinese japanese one should I destroy japan or wait and justify on other nations?

[woeful knoll]

use your focus tree

what nation r u playing

[quasi osprey]

german empire

[woeful knoll]

bro

you get war goals and can diplo annex all of europe with ur focus tree

use it

dont justify

[drowsy karma]

Imma start sending HOI4 Cursed Images, every day at Noon ET

[quasi osprey]

I conquered france,britain,poland and soviets the only threat is japan and I want to destroy america and I dont think I get a wargoal on it

[woeful knoll]

oh yea

now make sense

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[prisma saddle]

someone?

[woeful knoll]

u should probally take out china first

then take out japan

[quasi osprey]

do I get a wargoal on them?

[woeful knoll]

i think u do if u do the colonial focuses

[quasi osprey]

oh yeah but I didnt do much in that part of the focus tree so it will probably take some time and by then america will be probably more powerful than me

[woeful knoll]

do u have canada

[quasi osprey]

yes

[woeful knoll]

take out us by invading from north

then take asia out

what i would do

[quasi osprey]

I took east canada and the rest is a puppet

[torn rampart]

why cant I see

any other troops

even though they are in my faction

[quasi osprey]

ok yeah that was almost my plan just hold manchukuo border, take out america as quickly as possible and then finish of japan and then at the end attack china while it is still incapacitated by the previous war

[woeful knoll]

yea that sound good

[quasi osprey]

probably clicked the button to hide foreign troops either M or N I think

try and click one of those again

[torn rampart]

they all different colors

not the universal green

or red

[drowsy karma]

How 2 defeat Luxembourg

[quasi osprey]

there is a button for that on the console where you change view from infantry to naval and air and other stuff

[weak magnet]

does "enemy troops bombed" count as a casualty?

[weak magnet]

bottom right press the head

or M

[trim lotus]

If you're dealing strength damage to enemy divisions, that's going to mean at least some casualties dealt.

[weak magnet]

weird

i mean once i shot down around 3000ish planes from a couple of zones and dealt no casualties to my enemy

im not really sure how that worked

[young lake]

Whats an actually fun challenge that wont take like multiple days to do?

Like I dont want to be doing like a wq as Luxembourg or sum 😭

[steel zephyr]

new germany run, a nice early anshluss

[trim lotus]

I'm unsure if it'd be fun, but at least funny: play USA, never take your economy off of undisturbed isolationism.

[young lake]

Ok but like the Usa is so easy. I lwk dont think it would even be a challenge

Icl

💔

[fair horizon]

Button in the bottom right

[heavy vigil]

i need to lock in im so ass at this game 💔

[vocal bolt]

whats the next dlc

[fair horizon]

Is it going well?

[fair horizon]

WT?

[heavy vigil]

hoi

but also wt

most games really

[fair horizon]

Same

If the ai paradropped me id lose like every game

[echo moss]

I got molested by Italy as fascist greece bc i declared war on albania BUT i was in axis + i had a non agression pact with italy

I hate HOI4 but i love HOI4

[echo moss]

Germany :

[uncut pollen]

Same

[languid mango]

i started by command annexing norway iceland sweden denmark as finland

and now i count as major country

[merry sequoia]

If you haven't figured out how yet I got you ^^
You'll download it through the steam community workshop, open the launcher, go to mods, turn it on if its not already, go back to the play screen and select initial playset (or whichever one you enabled it in) and then hit play

[steel zephyr]

yeah ok maybe i was not ready for ww2 in 37

[quasi osprey]

And I wasn't ready for Netherlands having 30 divs when I attacked them

[steel zephyr]

maybe i am ready...

[celest dirge]

even with better AI, Italy still perform worse than Iran and Iraq

[plain temple]

Хуйня, Переделывай

[steel zephyr]

wow is germany easy

sloppy army still slimed france with early war

[icy crescent]

Portugal can finally release Timor as puppet.
Finally awesome feature. xd

[snow rain]

been there since man the guns dlc but whatever

at least I'm almost sure it did then

[spiral gorge]

rip me

[steel zephyr]

wait isn't there an achievement to cap poland and france before 1940?

gonna go for that one

[spiral gorge]

I don't know what you think about it... but I think I am dead

[lethal ether]

send it over to bittersteel

it would make for such a funny video

[spiral gorge]

?

[lethal ether]

u dont know bittersteel?

[spiral gorge]

no

[lethal ether]

ok nvm then

[heavy vigil]

no

it was added with like NCNS

[snow rain]

decolonization status were added with MTG though ?

[gaunt garden]

If being a w game is your power what are you without it hoi4

[heavy vigil]

not timor leste

not papua

[snow rain]

withthe bazillion country tags

[heavy vigil]

not singapore

not the state in borneo

those are new

also like

in mtg they clearly didnt add this

because they made the "melanesian federation" a releasable but is has FIJ as tag

like they did not add small releasables back then and it still pmo

[steel zephyr]

😭

[unique grove]

what air doctrine for fighters

[prisma saddle]

is that good?

i mean

15 org

[prisma saddle]

battlefield support ig

[steel zephyr]

realistic time to invade poland, i suppose

[prisma saddle]

"did i forgot something?"

[steel zephyr]

so close to getting true blitzkreig

i gotta lock in bruh maybe got to form an actual army for poland

[patent thistle]

had to do something which is why i didnt continue

yet

[opal nymph]

Only a few months in and the Germans have already gotten rolled

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[heavy vigil]

hiii johnathan

[uncut pollen]

After i declared on germany

I lost

Hard

[quick hare]

is it normal for ww2 to still be going in 1949 on rt56 😭

[woven gate]

Battlefield Support is my usual one

Air Dominance is my favorite Fighter Doctrine

[patent thistle]

NO WAY IT WORKED- @fair horizon

[uncut pollen]

@heavy vigil how do i win war?

[icy crescent]

It can be cheesed by setting the game on non-his.
Because post-civil war, Germany is really weakened.

[uncut pollen]

Ah

But will i still get the achievement?

[icy crescent]

If it is Ironman, ye.

[uncut pollen]

Great

[icy crescent]

Gotta win the gamble, that Germany goes non-fascist tho.
Setting specific nations to a specific path disables achievements.
You'd see the warning, if it isn't the case.

[heavy vigil]

idk i lost war today

[cunning burrow]

36w gun 3

[uncut pollen]

I lost too

[uncut pollen]

Alright

[fair horizon]

Brunei town?

[uncut pollen]

So i gotta justefie in the civil war?

[heavy vigil]

whats your fav tank

[fair horizon]

Nice free core and industry

[fair horizon]

Like irl model or ingame?

[patent thistle]

i almost forgot that switzerland was a thing to worry about

[heavy vigil]

tank

imagine you get a tank and you have to choose

what it be

[fair horizon]

idk

Thats a thinker

[knotty vortex]

what countries have fun paths that arent ridiculously difficult

[fair horizon]

South american countries

[steel zephyr]

latvia

[knotty vortex]

i played argentina but i never got off the continent

which wasnt that fun

[fair herald]

Is it no longer possible to attack a puppet of a guaranteed nation to avoid the guarantee?

[heavy vigil]

attack portugal

[knotty vortex]

i need to make a navy for that though

[young lake]

So as China you want to just sit behind the yellow river right. But like how long? Do I just keep building divs until Im strong enough to push back or what. What is the end goal when sitting behind the yellow river?

[fair herald]

I justified on Iraq's puppet Jordan, it says UK will join the war if I attack

[heavy vigil]

no?

[knotty vortex]

and i dont really know how to do that

[heavy vigil]

you start with one and you get more from brasil etc

and the portuguese navy is like worse than your starting one

[fair horizon]

South american countries had battleships btw

[knotty vortex]

how do i even get troops across the atlantic

[heavy vigil]

boat

[fair horizon]

Rivaled smaller european nation navies

[knotty vortex]

this doesnt help 😔

[fair horizon]

brazil had a bigger navy than spain btw

[heavy vigil]

use boat

[knotty vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[patent thistle]

these lines should hold, shit is about to hit the fan.

[fair horizon]

Hold the alps

italy cant push you there

[patent thistle]

i dont have the troops i need to concentrate a lot so the soviets dont try shit in the east

[fair horizon]

Where real army

The attack ones

[cursive socket]

if i have more then one naval invasion order on a general is there a way to only execute one of them

[fair horizon]

No

They'll trigger when they finish planning

[cursive socket]

thanks

[knotty vortex]

so which south american nation do i play

[patent thistle]

i was trying to get tanks but my friend (the one who also made the poland thing) it would be funny to basically make it even harder to get them with research debuffs

[icy crescent]

[fair horizon]

Cruel

[icy crescent]

It is a waiting game after forming.

[fair horizon]

Based achievement

[daring geyser]

coooome to brazil

[icy crescent]

Can be combined with that.

[patent thistle]

hey it makes the start still easier so?

[fair horizon]

You should do aa tanks

[cunning burrow]

holy tuf

[fair horizon]

UK when adressing any issue on the malaysian front:

[daring geyser]

classic 1.17

[woeful knoll]

chile

chile is the best one

[icy crescent]

You had to calculate that?

[patent thistle]

otherwise i would have to hold the oder which is a way longer line then the vistula line

[fair horizon]

Peru

[cunning burrow]

no but its funnier w an explanation

[woeful knoll]

chilean french empire, hispanic empire, hispanic union

[patent thistle]

.

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[woeful knoll]

pacific empire

[quiet vessel]

how do i make it in the available thing in making a focus, that the focus can be done if atleast one of the conditions are true

[woeful knoll]

mapuche world core path

[fair horizon]

All the south american countries are good and i hate it (im boiling with jealousy)

[icy crescent]

Mapuche is really micro heavy.

[woeful knoll]

mapuche overrated

antione is better

[fair horizon]

Mapuche is weird though because it has like zero manpower till later

[woeful knoll]

argentina is trash

[knotty vortex]

why do the south american nations seem to have links to germany

like argentina and senor hitler

i managed to get that randomly

[fair horizon]

100m core pop is never trash

[woeful knoll]

fun wise

[cunning burrow]

https://gemini.google.com/gem/1dASPnlFgr2uUAx2GdE6wHJgKS8OezGXr?usp=sharing

[icy crescent]

I mean.
There is Hitler in USA and Greece too.
Sooo it's not limited to down there.

[cunning burrow]

uploaded entire modding wiki to gemini

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon

[knotty vortex]

argentina wasn’t fun, i just ended up in a crap war with the british in northern brazil

[fair horizon]

they had political ties to them and stuff

[fair horizon]

?

[patent thistle]

.

[fair horizon]

You core whatever you take anyways so w/e

[woeful knoll]

chila has all the schizo paths brazil is the germany of americas and then argentina has nothing to di with it

just generic boring

[fair horizon]

I mean the tank thing

[woeful knoll]

unite south america

[patent thistle]

ye i meant with that he made the holding basically easier

[fair horizon]

??? argentina cores all of south america and can easily take the steel

[woeful knoll]

OMG

CORES

CORE

[fair horizon]

You can force a defensive war with brazil yoo

[woeful knoll]

ok so can the other 2

[patent thistle]

i take a stronger defensive over a strong offense in a situation like that

[woeful knoll]

what im saying is

argentina is boring

nothing special

[fair horizon]

And the other 2 are basically the same

[patent thistle]

and also has that fourth reich path

[woeful knoll]

yea but argentina is the worst and most boring one

[fair horizon]

If you say so ig

[woeful knoll]

fourth reich is the only intresting argentina game

[patent thistle]

paraguay and uruguay existing:

[icy crescent]

With Senor Hitler you can get wargoals against all of South America.
This is kind of special. Most boring? Is a bit tooo subjective.

[patent thistle]

-venezuela and peru cause they are fascist

[fair horizon]

Argentina also has one of the only woman leaders in the game (also didnt realise she was because sigma of iron gave her a jawline that could slice the continent in half)

[icy crescent]

Eh. Enough tension and small wargoals.
Still works well.

Greater Paraguay.
Greater Uruguay.
Their colors are actually nice.

[fair horizon]

I wonder if uruguay is fun

[patent thistle]

they are still worse then the argentina path tho

[vagrant hinge]

she mogs everyone

[patent thistle]

after taking your 2 states you basically got nothing to do anymore

[woeful knoll]

lets see what u can do as TOA countries
Chile:
become a native americian empire
become a neo french empire
become a conquistador hispanic empire
become a united south america communism
become a pacific sea kingdom
and historical
Brazil:
unite south america in 10 different flavors
Argentina:
unite south america but have it be really bland and boring because brazil is much more fun and intresting

Objectively worse

[icy crescent]

I mean.
Forming Greater Uruguay/Paraguay for the first time is a nice feeling.

[patent thistle]

uruguay and paraguays focustrees are objectively worse

[woeful knoll]

not counting them but ur right

[patent thistle]

then argentinas

[vagrant hinge]

nah argentina is way more fun than brazil

brazil only works if u wanna go monarchist in s.a

[icy crescent]

You know what.
Yes. You gave me some really good arguments.
I agree with you.

[vagrant hinge]

argentina is fun bc u can do a lot of stuff with pretty much all the ideologies

[heavy vigil]

TAC

[woeful knoll]

Brazil vs argentina focus tree btw

[vagrant hinge]

so?

[celest dirge]

Is there any AI mod that actually work with overhaul mods?

[vagrant hinge]

having a bigger focus tree means nothing brotato pie 💔

[snow rain]

submods of the mod you're using

[icy crescent]

They look same size.

[woeful knoll]

historical/democratic end game paths compared

you can see one is objectively more fun

[noble garden]

How is everyone doing?

[patent thistle]

what the funniest bit of the south american trees are is the navy getting a bunch of battleships for free

[woeful knoll]

second argentine republic Vs united states of south america

[icy crescent]

Me and da boys.

[vagrant hinge]

thats not the historical argentinian path

the non-aligned path is the historical one

the one that lets you conquer all of latin america

[fair horizon]

I think id have to narrow it down to like 3, the m18 the m60 or the of-40

[green magnet]

world war is going in my favor

[patent thistle]

and it began-

[halcyon pasture]

peak

[fair horizon]

Why did you split chad in half

[raw shale]

WHY ARE mongolia and tanatuva not soviet puppets cuz they where irl

[rain loom]

how common is it for the netherlands to reject wilhelm's return?

[nova trench]

Tfr is awesome

[ivory hull]

just have a big enough army

like 20 divs or smth

[nova trench]

I can't

[ivory hull]

should be enough i think

[rain loom]

i have had a smaller army and they have accepted

no idea why they didnt this time

[ivory hull]

how many divs did you have?

[rain loom]

then i had maybe 13

now i had 15

and they rejected

[ivory hull]

for me 20 divs always worked

[rain loom]

eh idrc free dutch

[ivory hull]

you can easily get 10 more divs right after the civil war

[rain loom]

ik

eh

i just wanna have fun with tank

and idk who to play as

[ivory hull]

historical germany ig

or soviets

or france

[rain loom]

oh hell no too scary

[rain loom]

maybe ig i just cant invade uk but i think it is a skill issue

[ivory hull]

sealion is pretty easy

just paradrop

its the easiest way

[rain loom]

true

ah fine might as well

[fair horizon]

Literally the best major in the game

[rain loom]

but i have skill issue ngl

[fair horizon]

Its so good you dont even need to worry about that

[rain loom]

ah

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i could

but what path?

[wet summit]

sounds familiar

[halcyon pasture]

they got this

[fair horizon]

You know the one Comrade

[rain loom]

ah

well

aight bet

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/comunisto-dogo-gif-15433861177915232836

[fair horizon]

How goes the war?

[fierce grotto]

How do I counter soviet as bosnia

🥺

[fair horizon]

You dont

[green magnet]

resign

[unkempt zodiac]

just hold your breath when it goes in

[coarse hull]

world tour

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-the-bosnian-knight-bosnia-knight-gif-27282235

Well i guess you could deploy the bosnian knight

[fierce grotto]

Dont mess with bosnia

[woeful knoll]

Fascist poland is officialy the worst path in hoi4

[unkempt zodiac]

scream if you love bosnia rahhhhhh

[green magnet]

call vaidra

[fierce grotto]

Rahhh

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/iowa-scream-scream-if-you-love-wwe-wwe-scream-gif-712136759786834990

Most beautiful US state

[fierce grotto]

Hell naw

[unkempt zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-scream-screaming-scream-if-you-love-wwe-gif-7385632418733039796

[fierce grotto]

Its clearly Texas

[green magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/yugoslavia-republics-former-scream-you-gif-17380430729311301414

[fierce grotto]

Cowboys and stuff

[unkempt zodiac]

YES

[fierce grotto]

Raaahh

Dont mind bosnia

[unkempt zodiac]

what is going on bro 😭

[fierce grotto]

🫡

[unkempt zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-miku-hatsune-miku-angry-not-happy-gif-10473291184535189680

not sigma

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-israel-gif-2018082299890338940

[silk fern]

One Struggle

[unkempt zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/all-quiet-on-the-western-front-aqotwf-still-talking-paul-baumer-gif-12832666743070848580

[woeful knoll]

antisemite

[fierce grotto]

Amm playinnn

[unkempt zodiac]

no

[woeful knoll]

cant belive ppl are still antisemetic in 2026

[unkempt zodiac]

there is a difference between jewish people and the state of israel

[woeful knoll]

stop noticing

[woeful knoll]

your literally antisemitic

[unkempt zodiac]

no

[woeful knoll]

im going to get your bank account disabled bro

[unkempt zodiac]

what do we say 3 times

JOKE

[fierce grotto]

Hail hail hail

Furer

[unkempt zodiac]

realest thing i saw all day

[uncut pollen]

I dont like the this chat rn

Rule 5

[woeful knoll]

they are antisemetic

[fierce grotto]

Sowwy

[woeful knoll]

im visibly shanking right now

[unkempt zodiac]

• literally him

[uncut pollen]

Also rule 5

[woeful knoll]

shaking*

[fierce grotto]

This too?

[woeful knoll]

disgusting

im visibly shaking

[quiet vessel]

what do y'all think of romania's first expansion path for the fascist path in my mod? any improvements or suggestions? im gonna add some wargoals on germany and ussr i think at the bottom for funsies.
im probably gonna add more to the political bit before u start eating ur neighbours because i feel its lacking rn

[unkempt zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/hideo-kojima-absolute-cinema-kojima-mgs-metal-g-gif-8385765503625102568

[quiet vessel]

bradar vat is this

[uncut pollen]

And again rule 5

[fair horizon]

Is it as bad as romania in base hoi4?

[unkempt zodiac]

itsa movie

[fierce grotto]

This is peak bradar

[quiet vessel]

i hope not

[woeful knoll]

ussr path

but besides that its good

[fair horizon]

Romania is probably my least favorite nation to play

So anything that makes it better than regular hoi4 is good

[quiet vessel]

me too.. that's why i'm making this

its got so much potential

too bad i suck at modding 😭

[woeful knoll]

together for victory are the worst countries in hoi4

[fierce grotto]

Hungary demands north transylvania

[fair horizon]

No

[fierce grotto]

🤔

[woeful knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/atatürk-ataturk-mustafa-kemal-türkiye-gif-3360507236947562063

[quiet vessel]

hitler and codreanu will enter a very active relationship so he won't give hungary anything

[fierce grotto]

Allrriiightttt

[woeful knoll]

add a hidden andrew tate meme path

[buoyant portal]

just make romania be able to form eatern roman empire.

[daring geyser]

yesac

[fierce grotto]

Are you serious right now?

[unkempt zodiac]

yes bradar

[fierce grotto]

Romania has nothing to do with romans

[woeful knoll]

legionary rome?

that osunds cool

legionary romanum

[fierce grotto]

Roman empire just puppet them and were living there

Idk why the damn countrys called romania

[buoyant portal]

because it's a latin country?

[fierce grotto]

I would name it south moldova

[fierce grotto]

That changeees everythinggg

[buoyant portal]

honestly they should be called smt like Eastern Venezuela or smt.

[woeful knoll]

Legionary Romanum: Rize of Romania

[quiet vessel]

that is pretty tuff tbf

[unkempt zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-disappointed-gif-15109451105839273800

[patent thistle]

currently i am shitting on the allied fleets in the baltics

[fair horizon]

Nice

Might give that mod a try

[patent thistle]

my subs have also started but i doupt that much will happen with them given most are still basics and early

[unkempt zodiac]

bradar what is this 😭

[woeful knoll]

Russian-Aryan Mikureich

[patent thistle]

you just will not get the good vistula line i am rn using in the east

you have to use the oder

[fair horizon]

Look at what positioning did to your fleet btw

[fair horizon]

Yeah thats fine

[patent thistle]

the captain of this destroyer must HATE enemy subs

[unkempt zodiac]

bradar they deleted the russian aryan mikureich image

[patent thistle]

knew it was a good idea to release my qindao as a puppet state

it has been distracting china for quite a while now

[upper tendon]

Why is the downloading paused...

[patent thistle]

current situation: my line is, to say the least, REALLY, unstable.

in the east

if it really comes to it i will have to pull it back to the oder river line.

[undone vale]

yo does anyone know why i have a different checksum than my friend? we have same mod and same mod versions, i already cleared user directory and verified game files

[patent thistle]

let me guess, road to 56?

[fair horizon]

One of your mods didnt update

[unkempt zodiac]

LMAO 😭

[undone vale]

great war redux

[patent thistle]

same issue

[fair horizon]

Both unsub and resub to the mod

[undone vale]

what the issue

[undone vale]

we just downloaded it lol

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon funnily the ONLY pressure is coming from the east, and THAT IS the issue.

[fair horizon]

You need tanks or something so you can encircle a few russians

[fair horizon]

None of you have any other mods in the playset?

[undone vale]

we have great war redux, gwr expanded and better mechanics optimization, other than that none

[fair horizon]

Check those ones too

[undone vale]

we did, he said i should reinsatll so thats what im doing, not sure what thats supposed to do lol but i might as well try haha

[fair horizon]

Are you using sonar?

[patent thistle]

i am going to those areas the ai is programmed to not place its fleets in

[patent thistle]

nope-

cant affort-

[fair horizon]

Just lucky hits while patrolli.g then

Very nice

[patent thistle]

WHY DID I HAVE TO JINX IT EARLIER 😭

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[silk fern]

How did you get in this situation

[patent thistle]

its called ragnarok 1937

[silk fern]

Is that just total war from the start?

[patent thistle]

yep.

[silk fern]

Good luck lmao

[patent thistle]

its NOT going good.

[safe wing]

That’s how it feels playing the western Roman Empire in Attila too

[patent thistle]

yeh i have to completely abadon the maginot and go completely back to the rhine

it seems like the americans have arrived-

nah its actually just angry frenchmen

[safe wing]

Starting out at war with the Saxons, Jutes, Quadi and Ostrogoths

With many more willing to dogpile you

[upper tendon]

America in 1937 is weak so it should not be a problem

[silk fern]

1937 America will just waste all their equipment making dumb attacks

[knotty vortex]

how do i go offensive against the ussr as finland

when they invade me

[silk fern]

With or without dlc?

[knotty vortex]

with

[upper tendon]

Just wait till they run out of guns

[knotty vortex]

okay

i might do the communist path

[patent thistle]

did i forget to meantion that combat width is tripped?

[knotty vortex]

but just anatagonise the soviets lol

what do i do about the public trust finland feature

i want low public trust to remove non-aligned support?

[silk fern]

Finland has so many buffs as long as you fill the line soviets die

[patent thistle]

yeah i am retreating to the oder line. damit.

[knotty vortex]

oh sweet

do finland get any buffs for certain units

[silk fern]

Probably, it’s been a while since I’ve done Finland tho so I wouldn’t remember

[patent thistle]

and my game crashed. yeah hell naw i aint continueing this hell-

did i forget to meantion the AI also gets this shit just to REALLY rub it in?

(catched it before it crashed)

[upper tendon]

That aint even making them much more powerful it just makes them not f the supply up

[patent thistle]

it does make it hell tho when there is the entire worlds army on the F***ing front

[upper tendon]

Well thats kinda the point of the mod

[patent thistle]

ik and thats why it crashed for me-

[upper tendon]

Get stronger pc

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[maiden bolt]

rip

[weak magnet]

how do i make my naval invaders better

im trying to naval invade spain in 1939 as germany but they actually taking my divisions out

[silk fern]

Using marines?

[weak magnet]

still

not so strong i cant get a port

what do i put in the division

i have naval support too

planes dont reach tho

[silk fern]

Throw some line artillery on

[weak magnet]

hmm ok

im trying armored cars too is that fine here? they seem better for this

[severe monolith]

Hello!

[ivory hull]

what are we saying

line artillery is bad

[ivory hull]

armored cars?

no

[woeful knoll]

line artillery is good early game

after 39 gun its bad

[silk fern]

Idk he’s struggling to naval invade Spain it shouldn’t be that difficult

[ivory hull]

yeea and he said he is in 39

[woeful knoll]

bro

just push through the mountains

[ivory hull]

just tell him to use good marine divisions

[woeful knoll]

are u trying to naval invade voulenteers

[lavish flint]

why is ottoman empire renaming istanbul to konstaniyye

lmao

[silk fern]

it wasnt istanbul till after the ottomans

[lavish flint]

bro

turkey

[silk fern]

stupid attaturk

[lavish flint]

into

ottoman empire

why would they rename

the renamed city

back to the greek name

this game is so bad

[terse skiff]

Konstntinyye is a turk name

Constantinople is the Greek name

You're just being an idiot

[lavish flint]

stupid

[harsh linden]

Great path

But now having to fight axis

[split bane]

It was called Konstantiniyye by the Ottomans, the Greeks called it Kōnstantinoupolis
It was renamed to Istanbul by Ataturk in 1930

[lavish flint]

br

its unrealistic

to rename it back

but hey nothing is realistic in a video game

[safe wing]

Constantinople is the Anglicized name

Konstantinoúpoli is the Greek name

[terse skiff]

He definitely does not know that

[lavish flint]

im tr bro

[safe wing]

I knew that thanks to Stainless steel historical improvement project as it calls all the cities in the factions native tongues

Also Constantinople became Istanbul in 1930

[harsh linden]

Can you give me any tactics to win against this? I thought of took all of my allies troops and not calling any of them to war, and then attacking Germans from Bohemia while it holds divisions in other borders.

[safe wing]

By the Nationalist government of Turkey not the Ottoman Empire

[knotty vortex]

how do i remove the public trust thing as finland

[daring geyser]

@heavy vigil hi im playing as germany and i messed up can you help me

[safe wing]

I’m pretty sure Tuchesvsky wasn’t German

[daring geyser]

dont you see he's manstein

[upper tendon]

Just start another campaign

Oh bruh my brain stopped braining...

Thought that was some german civil war or smth

I think i should sleep

[opaque zinc]

How do I get the It has my name on it achievement bro

[dusky burrow]

tukhachevsky is the pinnacle of germanness

what are you talking about

[opaque zinc]

I think I’m gonna try for it tonight as Estonia cuz I want Esti is scandi

Side note I could go on and on about how much I love Estonia

🇪🇪💜

[opaque zinc]

I prefer

[torn agate]

Is this game more complicated than stellaris? Me and my friends saw it on sale and were going to grab it

[opaque zinc]

What is stellaris

[stuck fiber]

ItalyPower VS USSR Hourse

[opaque zinc]

Hoi4 is very I guess complicated

It’s more just

Like

Annoying to have to do everything at once

Individual like things aren’t complicated

It’s just having to do all of them

[torn agate]

Different game, same devs

[upper tendon]

Just invade state that touch baltic sea

[opaque zinc]

Russia

Is

The difficult part there

Actually ok

I think what I’m gonna do

[upper tendon]

Germany harder

[unkempt zodiac]

im crying bro drew over the german flag and wrote germany over it 😭

[opaque zinc]

Ah yeah

[upper tendon]

It soviet flag

[opaque zinc]

Idk vro

Atleast for

[unkempt zodiac]

OH LMAO i didnt even see

[opaque zinc]

When I attack Russia I’m going to like

[daring geyser]

really? i'm flabbergasted

[opaque zinc]

First get Finland as my puppet then attack Norway and Sweden and Denmark and everything get the Nordic unification thing

[upper tendon]

Same took me like 3 mins to realize

[opaque zinc]

And then I’m going to wait for German war on Russia

[unkempt zodiac]

we might just be slow bro 💔

[opaque zinc]

So I join axis

The only difficult part will be Germany I guess

Ok yeah no that’s gonna suck

[upper tendon]

Well i have slept for half a hour per night on average in last month or 2

[unkempt zodiac]

doesnt this basically lock you entirely out of your industry tree?

[opaque zinc]

And I can’t steal navies because I don’t have the dlc for it

It’s evil

[upper tendon]

Take a loan

[daring geyser]

gonna rush the western allies as soon as i make an army not composed of farmers 20% having rifles

[daring geyser]

why would it?

[unkempt zodiac]

when you declare on a major nation

it locks you out of the five year plan decisions

as the soviet union

[daring geyser]

oh yeah it disrupts the five year plan

[unkempt zodiac]

yeah

im assuming you havent finished the tree at 1937

[daring geyser]

yeah but it's whatevs

[unkempt zodiac]

by the way

[daring geyser]

if im rushing germany im not playing optimally and the ai can be outsmarted by a toddler 😔

[unkempt zodiac]

immediately at the start of the game

if you justify on turkey

[daring geyser]

im aware

[unkempt zodiac]

you get both turkey and romania for free

[daring geyser]

i just didnt want to

[steep rampart]

You need to play France and do light tanks

[daring geyser]

[fathom shard]

son 😭 😭 😭

best way to get out of this is

esc -> exit to menu -> singleplayer > new game

[upper tendon]

Why would he get out of it

[daring geyser]

yeahh.thanks for the advice, socrates...,...

im a big fan....

[fathom shard]

i mean lowkye the only thing you should do

[amber matrix]

why cant i form the second united front?

[fathom shard]

read

[amber matrix]

i did

all options said that the second united front will not form

if i choose them

[heavy vigil]

fridge flip you should should uhh river

[steel zephyr]

cap'd france and poland before 1940, no achievement..

[icy crescent]

Check the ingame achievement tab.

It usually has more information.

[steel zephyr]

where's that again

[upper tendon]

Top right

[slim nexus]

is owning a pirated version of the game against the discord rules

[icy crescent]

It's technically even against the law.
Sooooooooooo...

And publicly sharing that you do is stupid.

[slim nexus]

the law cannot be enforced upon those who are precautionary. discord server rules can

and anyways i don’t live in a country where it’s illegal i don’t think

[icy crescent]

Not reading the server rules is against the Discord TOS.
And yes. Piracy is not allowed.

Are you too lazy to read?

[slim nexus]

am i gonna get banned now

also i was hypothetically asking

i don’t actually pirate or own pirates video games

there’s no proof that I wasn’t

[icy crescent]

Well saved.
But seriously.
Consider reading.

[slim nexus]

you’re right

sorry

[icy crescent]

Is Rule 6 btw.

[fathom shard]

by this phrase he isn't admitting to anything, it's just a hypothetical question

but people like you like to jump to conclusions

[icy crescent]

It wasn't clear, that it was hypothetical.

And it should have been clear, because the TOS demands, that people read the rule set of servers.

[fathom shard]

it is a clear hypothetical smart person

how is it not

[heavy vigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/187017643448991745/1206926220365668362/caption-3-2.gif

[icy crescent]

If it was a smart person, they would have read the rules. o.o'

[icy crescent]

France and Poland exists.

[steel zephyr]

one of the following

not all

both capitulated

[fathom shard]

"it" referring to someone is pretty weird

[icy crescent]

True, typo.

[icy crescent]

What does it say at your tab?

[heavy vigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/724031429234917386/1371943500563873852/togif.gif?width=704&height=940

[steel zephyr]

the war tab?

[fathom shard]

well yeah that's true but asking that question doesn't mean they have done that specific thing

[icy crescent]

The achievement tab.

[icy crescent]

We are in a circle of argument, that doesn't see an end.

We better stop it at that.

[slim nexus]

smart people don’t waste their time doing that: they rely on common sense. which i did not do either

[steel zephyr]

larp

oh well ill try it again my next germany game

[weary dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1465109722339479702/1485054780182102047/togif.gif

[fathom shard]

define a smart person

[icy crescent]

Ye, they exists.
Sorry, mate.

[slim nexus]

me and everyone i like

[steel zephyr]

😢

[icy crescent]

Annex all next time.

[leaden mulch]

someone that is smart

[icy crescent]

[fathom shard]

thats subjective so it isn't a definition

[fathom shard]

unhelpful

[icy crescent]

A definition cannot use the word that it is trying to define.

[leaden mulch]

he said define "smart person"

[icy crescent]

Neither synonyms.
Otherwise it would be one.