hoi4-general

[lofty yoke]

huh

[worldly schooner]

dont land in dover btw
i forget the new meta place but dover and portsmouth is never going to work

[copper ridge]

i usually landed in Scotland

[restive sable]

they actually guard those and put up a fight now

[hoary pecan]

oh ok

[fair horizon]

Leave them alone

[hoary pecan]

i cant even get there tho

they wont drop their damn guard

[worldly schooner]

the port guard right?

[patent thistle]

i wasnt even trying to look for that GiF i just got it when i bonked someone with the phoenix bot

[hoary pecan]

like the ships

in the area

[copper ridge]

the border gore

holy shit

[restive sable]

what could've happened here

[steel zephyr]

fascist estonia that annexed finland

[hoary pecan]

i usually wait for them to drop guard, spam every ship and it will give me dominance for a few seconds enough to send a naval invasion

[worldly schooner]

oh 💀

1. what year is it
2. have you been making new ships
3. have you been making naval bombers

[steel zephyr]

was on axis for a bit, so was at war with soviets and america

then i invaded them to form ostland

[hoary pecan]

1939

how do i make naval bombees

[lofty yoke]

that peak pro

[worldly schooner]

if you have all dlc you can make them via the air frame designer use naval bombs on the first bomb slot

[copper ridge]

if i have to say. i love how you can do reichskommissariats in North America, South America and Asia.

[green magnet]

WW3 officially begins

[hoary pecan]

no dlcs

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/so-it-begins-raining-rainy-day-théoden-lord-of-the-rings-gif-16521230

[coarse hull]

spam naval bombers

[worldly schooner]

i lowkey forget how to do it then 🥀

[old acorn]

old way standard research

[worldly schooner]

oh bet

just research them then

[fair horizon]

You can blow up their ships with naval bombers 👍

[digital aurora]

Wait with factory output multipliers from concentrated industry does that also affect civs? Meaning construction is faster

[old acorn]

no

[digital aurora]

Ah shame

[fair horizon]

Nope

[digital aurora]

I was gonna say if it does then I might start going concentrated but I’m gonna stick with dispersed

[snow rain]

without DLCs you just research naval bombers
they are their own plane category

[worldly schooner]

ty guys 🙏

[fair horizon]

Concentrated is 25% more output

[woeful knoll]

Go dispersed

concentrated doesnt even make sense

cuz its bad for ur country roleplay wise

concentrated is for chuds

only good for north america nations

[fair horizon]

Cant win an air war? Smh

[limpid field]

is this normal

[fair horizon]

Yes?

You have to patrol ships now to get dominance

[limpid field]

is this not patrol

[fair horizon]

Well thats why you have no dominance

[limpid field]

wdym

[fair horizon]

Oh i read that wrong

[woeful knoll]

Do u not have the dlc

cuz u have a generic admiral

[fair horizon]

Nah patrol takes time to build up but also coastals arent real cruisers

[old acorn]

You're being dominated by the enemy fleet you cannot assert dominance while being dominated

[limpid field]

all dlcs

[woeful knoll]

why do u have a generic admiral

why do u have capitals on spotting

[limpid field]

why would i know

[limpid field]

but our control ratio is 82%

[woeful knoll]

why do u have so many fleets

[fair horizon]

Heavy cruisers are good for the job

[limpid field]

why so many questions

[woeful knoll]

because its confusing

[limpid field]

i annexed my puppets and took their fleet

[old acorn]

then honestly idk but just by ship amount is highly unlikely that will do anything

[woeful knoll]

bro make a deathstack

combine everything

[fair horizon]

Should be enough even if they were all destroyers, it takes 150 for english channel

[amber matrix]

im singlehandedly encircling 100k japanese and manchuko soldiers as communist china

🔥

we almost back at shanghai

and they never even got to vietnam

its 1943

[amber matrix]

mongolia op

sad that its not in vanilla

what mod is it

[faint fiber]

how is it fake

[amber matrix]

sorry

[faint fiber]

my own

[amber matrix]

are u gonna put it on workshop?

[faint fiber]

and the focus tree isnt even close to being done, but it does look cute right now

[inland falcon]

mongolia is never getting a vanilla tree 💔

[faint fiber]

maybe, theres something I need to fix first

[amber matrix]

[faint fiber]

for example I got rid of that stupid trial in Japan

[amber matrix]

pushing japan out of china

[faint fiber]

and I changed this because screw fascism

and everyone knows theres only 1 right choice

Yamamoto

[amber matrix]

vro they are finished

they cant even cover the front lines anymore

lets gooo

[patent thistle]

agreed.

[amber matrix]

we got nanjing back

[faint fiber]

and I added this to france, because why not

and this brings back the ottoman empire as a constitutional monarchy

[patent thistle]

the daily fascism?

[faint fiber]

what?

[patent thistle]

oh you meant the focus all together

[faint fiber]

yes

[patent thistle]

but why even add the line "Fr#nce will be known as F#nce"?

[amber matrix]

🔥🙏

[faint fiber]

for something reason it does that, it changes it so that democratic France is called the Kingdom of France

[amber matrix]

hige encirclement soon trust

[amber matrix]

this a little op

[faint fiber]

well theres only 1 education focus right now so

besides researching things in this game takes forever

[amber matrix]

YES the reorganized gov capped

now i just have a huge encirclement of Japanese

[silk fern]

Get off aggressive assault it’s clearly not working lmao

[faint fiber]

while mongolia was not technically a kingdom, screw you its my mod

[amber matrix]

im not china

those red bubble are all the ai

im communist china

i have like 30 divs

[silk fern]

Ohh

[faint fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-kill-fuego-matar-incendiar-gif-5307315

[silk fern]

Nevermind keep the assault up

[amber matrix]

all the green bubble are mine

[silk fern]

https://tenor.com/view/mao-ze-dong-waving-wonderful-fabulous-good-job-gif-12479086

[amber matrix]

this me

the rest is the ai

[patent thistle]

HELL YEAH

[amber matrix]

so real

[opal nymph]

The many state solution?
(Be friends and absorb everyone)

[silk fern]

Friendmaxxing

[patent thistle]

yep, the only true option. not whatever this other guy send

[amber matrix]

😔

[lime mist]

Guys my troops arnet moving for some reason and I had it unpaused for a little before this

Wait I just saw

They need to reorganizwe

[fair horizon]

Lucky

[latent estuary]

became communist Ukraine and friended the Russians (i like playing custom games of strategy games)

[inland falcon]

I love how destabilizing northern Iraq isn't even remotely worth it

Uprising by the Kurds that immediately gets hit with the full might of the allies

[waxen citrus]

hisstoricaly acurate

[amber matrix]

Thats actually the leader

historically

i know history

trust me

[broken beacon]

Did the german AI get nerfed? Im playing historical japan and I feel like theyre doing literally nothing

[lofty yoke]

Is the tree focus of Iraq unique?

[silk fern]

Is this just the formable nations mod?

[silk fern]

With the dlc

[lofty yoke]

Yep

[silk fern]

But not very good imo

[lofty yoke]

lol

[lofty yoke]

[latent estuary]

100% communist ukrane (any tips)

[faint fiber]

mine's better

[safe wing]

Get that fake Nikita krustchev out of power

[latent estuary]

idk how to stage a assassination like the USA did with jfk💀

[faint fiber]

authoritarianism with elections, how would that work

[safe wing]

You can’t because you can’t assassinate leaders or characters outside of Trotsky

[latent estuary]

come on, i wanted to make ww2 start the same way as ww1😭

and also partly to assassinate Hitler in 1939

[safe wing]

Yeah it sucks but I kinda get why they did it

It would be op and abused frequently

Also some leaders do die ingame @latent estuary Kaiser Wilhelm II will die randomly after you get him back as imperial Germany

[latent estuary]

he did die sometime during ww2, another reason why hoi4 is the most realistic ww2 strategy game ever

he actually died in germany

[patent thistle]

easiest border war ever

[safe wing]

His portrait in game which you probably saw

[trim lotus]

Playing as monarchist Germany, you get to (try to) assassinate Mussolini.

[trim lotus]

Pretty sure at least one other country has a focus for that too, since when that happened in my monarchist Germany game, it sure wasn't me assassinating Mussolini.

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

[patent thistle]

they do have the wargoal

thats why i left my army from the border, to trick them into declearing

what did they expect would happen?

[cedar kite]

Mussolini, Quezon, Hirohito, Chang Kai Shek, get edward the 7th killed, you can also kill the entire german imperial family

[inland falcon]

I gotta be the first person ever to be playing communist iran

[cedar kite]

nope

[inland falcon]

Yes I am

[cedar kite]

it kinda sucks

all the paths kinda suck

[patent thistle]

the whole DLC sucks*

[safe wing]

Oh yeah

[cedar kite]

you cant even create a faction in the monarchist path

[inland falcon]

sorry but no, this DLC is peak because for whatever reason the vanguard divisions are completely untrained, fully equipped and have the shark symbol upon spawning

[cedar kite]

also iran just sucks to build up, i can get more industry as afghanistan in the same time

[patent thistle]

i am pretty sure also afghanistan starts with an bigger army

[atomic grove]

iran is the worst out of the goe nations

worse than afghanistan

[cedar kite]

also with some tank tech researched

[atomic grove]

from my experiences

[cedar kite]

it literally is 😭

[atomic grove]

fr

u cant even create a faction

[cedar kite]

iran has like 4 to 5 focuses in each the industry and army branches that give factories and most of it is 1 for the focuses

[atomic grove]

and they expect you to be able to conquer afghanistan, turkey, and india early

(in the focus tree)

[cedar kite]

eiether some paths you can, or if you can it doesnt set the rule to create factions

[atomic grove]

without that great of a buff

(the conscription is nice though)

[cedar kite]

you waste a lot of time as iran

[atomic grove]

the only time where u can create factions as iran

[cedar kite]

it takles to to long to get and industry, fix yourr army and go down the political path

[atomic grove]

is non monarchist fascist iran

im pretty sure

idk about the 2 other anti monarchist paths

[cedar kite]

communist iran can if its anti-stalin

[cedar kite]

democartic can in one branch

[atomic grove]

i havent played democratic and communist

[heavy vigil]

hi jerl

[atomic grove]

and i dont think i will

[inland falcon]

I love giving up half my country to kurds and azeris yayyy

Communist iran is so good

[cedar kite]

but reza shah just makes a faction without the rule to create one and his son doesnt get any faction

[cedar kite]

hi

[heavy vigil]

just dont

[cedar kite]

also kinda sucks the max research slots you can get is 4

[heavy vigil]

genuinely its so good to not puppet them

you get a defensive war and can go the doctrine

5% recruitable

then you do all but the last of your defense of iran tree

and then cap them

[atomic grove]

there are worse things than that

[heavy vigil]

its so good

[inland falcon]

How about I keep larping instead

[heavy vigil]

its so meta

[cedar kite]

from my experience playing iran sometimes the uk doesnt even remove the iraq gurantee even when iraq completes the anti-british focus thats supposed to do so

like cmon

pp buffs are nice though

[patent thistle]

turkey happy, i am not happy yet,

f you turkey for invading syria so early on.

@fair horizon are ya happy?

[silk fern]

is this a mod?

[patent thistle]

rt56

[silk fern]

ahh

[patent thistle]

YOU SHOULDNT HAVE CREATED WORLD TENSION TURKEY~

[blazing river]

tuff right

[latent estuary]

i tried to declare war on romainia as ukraine and the alies declared war on me, this is my first playthrough btw, am i cooked

oh ya also im allied with the soviets

[fair horizon]

No because i didnt get to do that

[patent thistle]

sucks to be you ig

[fair horizon]

Didnt even do any cool names for your ships smh

[patent thistle]

atleast i have names for my ships when i dont have names shoved down my throat by the game

also if i chose names from religions i can garantie you i would piss off someone from either religion

[fair horizon]

My ships my rules

[patent thistle]

what ships? those you never give names?

[fair horizon]

I give ships names when i know enough to give them good ones

[patent thistle]

happy?

[fair horizon]

No

[amber matrix]

they are almost out of china

[patent thistle]

for the love of man do it better yourself then

[fair horizon]

Cant not home

[patent thistle]

then give me names you would use

thats what ya get for stealing syria from me turkey

[uncut pollen]

[Rule 2 - Avoid Controversial Topics]
⮞ Avoid discussing real-life religion, politics, or controversial topics.

[random needle]

Is it bad I only play on non historical

[uncut pollen]

nope

[random needle]

Ok tuff

[merry sequoia]

Nop, honestly non historical os fun by how wild it gets lmao

[random needle]

Real

EU Netherlands is lowkey fun

[merry sequoia]

I was playing as Netherlands to get EU and saw france join the united Chinese front become fascist and then get taken over by Belgium

[slim nexus]

hi everyone

i’m new

[merry sequoia]

Helloooo

Welcome ^^

[random needle]

Hi new I’m tipson

[slim nexus]

that was REALLY funny, you sure gave me a big chuckle there 😂😂😂😂❤️❤️

it’s a splendid play on words

[random needle]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[latent estuary]

ima play eu4 now (in 67 ad because why not)

[amber matrix]

Invading Manchucko

in 1943

[cedar coral]

67

[jade ore]

with 0 supply and strength 😭

[edgy wedge]

Can anyone with NSB confirm me smt?

[fair herald]

what focus allows me to create puppets in indochina as japan

i remember seeing decisions like that before

[viscid sleet]

hey question! im playign as germany, usa are commie in an aliance with japan, UK is commie ina a seperate allaince with India. is there a way to use spies to effect the UK and make them declare on usa?

[jade ore]

i dont think u can make a country declare war on another country

[viscid sleet]

ok damn. i need uk to do something and help beat usa

[latent estuary]

something is a little off about this, i just cant put my finger on it

[fair horizon]

Just blow up the american navy

Also you can call them into the ear if they arent already

[viscid sleet]

oh that part was easy, did a run and tried invading late game. couldnt. im not allinged with the uk

[edgy wedge]

Heya, anyone here has nsb?

[viscid sleet]

im just restarting this game and trying new things, like trying to get uk to join

[pallid stone]

Hi guys

Pineapple on pizza or no pineapple on pizza

[edgy wedge]

pizza on ocean

[pallid stone]

Actually yoy know what dont even

[edgy wedge]

italian navy

[pallid stone]

Are yoy a therian

[edgy wedge]

I am a brazilian with italian blood

[pallid stone]

Brazilians are hot

[edgy wedge]

Yes, 44°C in winter

[pallid stone]

You know what else is hot

The middle of australia

During a hot ass summer day

Actually wait Brazilians arent hot

Cause if you think about it every ethnicity has its ugly and good looking

[manic wharf]

90283242373975067 non hist all dlc staring soonish

[pallid stone]

So everyone is hot

[edgy wedge]

37°C

[pallid stone]

But hot is a superficial word to describe the attractiveness of someone depending on how sexually appealing their appearance is

So good looking is a better word

Guys next time you wanna call someone attractive say "Your face is biologically pleasing to look at"

[edgy wedge]

Got accused of being dog people 😭

[pallid stone]

What

[edgy wedge]

lol

[pallid stone]

Are you a dog person

[edgy wedge]

no

[pallid stone]

What the hell is a dog person

[edgy wedge]

the therians

[pallid stone]

You know what lets not

[edgy wedge]

fair

[pallid stone]

Im waiting for my bestfeiend to wake up

I hate timezones

[pallid stone]

How do you even have hair

[edgy wedge]

what

[pallid stone]

Do you play hoi4

Because i dont

Im just different like thst

Guys be honest kinetic sand or play dough

Kinetic sand was THE shit for me when I was a miniature human

[manic wharf]

true kinetic sand best

[pallid stone]

Yes

[merry sequoia]

Well time to start a new save its 1937 and the ussr declared on me and I have nearly no military

[dusky burrow]

which country is this?

[merry sequoia]

Barvaria (modded)

[viscid mason]

is it fembavaria /j

[merry sequoia]

Felix is angry by the Austrian Posturing

[manic wharf]

i just wanna east india company in mp

be a businessman you know

[minor eagle]

Anyone wanna run twos

[merry sequoia]

I would if I had wifi, am on a cheap cell connection though TwT

[dusky burrow]

ussr declared war on bavaria 😭

[viscid mason]

Why would the ussr declare war on Bavaria specifically?

[late trout]

Stalin was paranoid about bavaria

[viscid mason]

Yes the biggest threat, femboys.

[vagrant hinge]

uhhhhh

national security...or something

[cedar wyvern]

Hello!

[karmic viper]

this guy has this encirclement and is refusing to do frick

[dusky burrow]

that's not an encirclement, crimea is connected to kuban via the kerch strait

you can block the kerch strait with ships though

[karmic viper]

still something that could be worked on

[silk fern]

why is winston a major power 😭

[fair horizon]

The Jewel becomes the crown

Gave the whole royal navy to them too

[dusky burrow]

you do this by moving a fleet onto the red strait connection

and it could just be a 1-destroyer fleet

[karmic viper]

supply from one choke point

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[fair horizon]

convoys taking supply to crimea

[vivid field]

i want to buy ultimate bunldle of this game but after i check 1 by 1 DLC i see many Mix and Negative

[fair horizon]

Thats how paradox dlcs are, most dont like the buisiness model

[vivid field]

it seem Dev put too many crash to DLC

i just want full game not for cosmestic of audio

some DLC is Overwhelmingly Negative

now i need check 1 by 1

To be honest, game developers these days are becoming increasingly dishonest

i see some DLC call Country Pack do u know what is it ? @fair horizon

[silk fern]

country packs only add a few focus trees with no new core features being added to the game

[vivid field]

@silk fern thank u it got so many negative review

[merry sequoia]

Wow this war with the USSR is going great I might win it!
The 39 American tanks of doom and despair right next to my capital

https://klipy.com/gifs/aww-aww-cute-4

[ember sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-lebron-bron-scared-im-scared-gif-9086856978205918508

[polar radish]

Low casualty Barb

My tactical genius is frightening

[feral canopy]

After playing 1k hours with the dlcs there good

But i dont like the price but i dont think anyone dose

[vivid field]

@feral canopywhich DLC u use ?

[feral canopy]

I have all of them

I just save like 50 bucks when i hear about a new dlc

[north merlin]

how do i get alingn hungry and puppet bulgaria nation focus as romania if i can't achieve 400k man power in divisions at the start of the game?

i don't have enough mills to produce guns

and 13 civs can't build anything in time

[inland falcon]

surely you have enough time to get 400k manpower out

[leaden summit]

I have a question that I've had a hard time answering despite me playing almost 150 hours

What's the point of this game... like why do people play it?

This isn't from a point of hate, I like the game

But I'm having a hard time answering this

[north merlin]

i have enough man power, but i don't have enough guns

what do i do?

i've been trianing for like 2 years now

[inland falcon]

put mils on guns lol

[north merlin]

i have 6 mills on guns

and i have 9 mils in total

[inland falcon]

to have fun i guess. there isn't really a single goal, just larp as whatever your chosen nations goal was

[inland falcon]

really not sure how you're struggling with production then, does romania start with some debilitating production debuff? i've never played them

[north merlin]

nope

im js having a bit of trouble getting 16k guns

i've been on gun shortage for like 2 years now

[inland falcon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

you could try only building mills

[north merlin]

im prob gonna be able to declare war on both countries before i can do the national focus lol

[north merlin]

yeah thats what im doing, but 13 civs is slow

[inland falcon]

are you researching industry tech?

[north merlin]

yeah

[north merlin]

i alrady finished construction 2 and dispersed industry 2

[leaden summit]

Mmm...

[inland falcon]

good luck then idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[leaden summit]

I usually play the game like "How do I fight against one of the major powers?"

But Idk

I'm having a hard time finding a reason to play without some kind of goal. I don't find larping... fun I guess?

[inland falcon]

hoi4 is a sandbox game

[north merlin]

;-;

[pallid stone]

Did you guys all pay for hoi4

[inland falcon]

yes

[pallid stone]

💔

Nothing is free in this world

[inland falcon]

i wouldn't admit to pirating it here though the mods don't like you doing that

[north merlin]

alright, i puppeted both bulgaria and hungry light work

[pallid stone]

How

Tell me

Now

Nooooooqowwwwwwww nooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[inland falcon]

whuh

[pallid stone]

Nnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeoeoooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Gimme free

Wait lemme see

If you see this, it all rhyme

[inland falcon]

dawg i paid for the game

[pallid stone]

But.....................

You said yoy pirated it

[inland falcon]

im not gonna tell you how to pirate it

[pallid stone]

You lying liar

[inland falcon]

no i didn't

[pallid stone]

Why

Whats pirating

Is it getting it for free

[pallid stone]

Its anada girl 🥹

Hi girl 👋

Xx chromosome

Its xx right

[pallid stone]

For hirl

And xy for guys

[pallid stone]

You better delete that text then

Uh ih

Casey

[heavy vigil]

@pallid stone this chat should be related to hoi4, take it to #off-topic

[inland falcon]

well now i'm definitely not telling you lmao

[pallid stone]

Wait would yoy possibly get mad and ban me from the whole server if I continued to talk about things that arent related to hoi4

[pallid stone]

Why not 😐

Oh nevermind shit sorry

[heavy vigil]

i feel like you are bothering chat users with your current topics and assertive personality.

[pallid stone]

Im assertive?

[pallid stone]

Im actually so sorry I didnt see your profile

[leaden summit]

Would be fun if they had like a system where you tried to do a task in the game like get a minor to a certain number of factories or destroy a certain number of units. Like they have premade scenarios and such

Simple but fun

While keeping the game a sandbox

But oh well

Just a thought

[misty fossil]

67

[inland falcon]

it's not quite the same but there are in game achievements separate from the steam achievements for things like this

[leaden summit]

Perhaps

[inland falcon]

if you really want some kind of direction on how to play the game you could chase that

[south mountain]

Did anyone here play hoi3?

Was it good?

[smoky lark]

Can I capitulate France early without a war against the British somehow?

[dusky burrow]

typically you paradrop france

they don't start out with aerial supremacy, so you can just drop a few cities immediately after war declaration and be done with france

[exotic bridge]

can someone tell me how I core places

I need mexicos oil

[silk fern]

Focus’s, sometimes formables

Who are you playing as?

[exotic bridge]

USA

[silk fern]

Don’t think you can core Mexico as USA

[vagrant hinge]

france joins the allies a bit before anschluss i think

[heavy vigil]

YES maybe

justify on their puppet and maybe or justify someone france guarantees like yugoslavia

[smoky lark]

Okay, can they join the allies while at war? And how could I push into france? Taking a port?

[silk fern]

The can join the allies while at war, naval invading a port or using paratroopers would work

[smoky lark]

Oh okay

[smoky lark]

Never did navy, paratroopers have do the job

[loud stream]

Somebody wants to play sheep mod with me?

[misty fossil]

no politics

mods!!

[leaden summit]

How are you supposed to do those without a guide though?

[viscid stirrup]

67 died

🤮

[inland falcon]

i mean, there's nothing stopping you from using a guide lol

[misty fossil]

not so long as i still breathe

[leaden summit]

Sad... I wish it gave you the tools to figure it out yourself

Oh well

[viscid stirrup]

Stop breathing

[misty fossil]

why are you sending me death threats

[inland falcon]

yeah paradox games are just kind of like that sadly

[viscid stirrup]

To make you stop saying 67

[misty fossil]

mods this guy is sending me death threats

[viscid stirrup]

Its a plague to society

We have to burn away the cancer of 67

Permanently remove it from our sacred realm

[heavy vigil]

HI MR MAPPING

[viscid stirrup]

Hello

[heavy vigil]

this is rude to say !

[viscid stirrup]

I know

[heavy vigil]

im gonna ask something very very hard from you

only the top 1% of hoi4 players can do this

but please dont send death threats or post political content here !!

[tiny iris]

What is @pallid stone doing?
She is going to get me banned.
I can't even leave her alone to go to sleep.

[viscid stirrup]

Oh thats so difficult

Ill try to do it

[heavy vigil]

thank you :D

[exotic bridge]

new map just dropped

[tiny iris]

By the way, if you ever ban my friend, don't ban me.

I went to sleep and when I woke up, I see her in this server, causing havoc.

[heavy vigil]

why would you be banned if she was banned ?

assuming its unrelated

[celest dirge]

Is this mod good?

[tiny iris]

Because I am her friend.

I invited her in here.

A lot of moderators would think it's just effective to ban both of us.

You're different though, that's good.

[faint carbon]

uhm, pretty sure you are in the wrong region/tile

[north merlin]

does anyone know what space marines are and what they do best? i kept on hearing that term from other hoi 4 players but have no idea what they are

[tiny iris]

It's tanks in infantry templates.
They are good for minor nations but if you play a major, make the tanks a division of it's own.

[north merlin]

oh, im playing romania, and my friend is gonna send me 8 armor divisions later(we play 2s) are they like good for everything? attacking? defending? or just a specific criteria?

[north merlin]

heavy tank medium tank or light tank?

[azure topaz]

hey

[tiny iris]

Medium.
Always.

[azure topaz]

anyone knows what's wrong with soviet china in road 56?

[tiny iris]

They are good for everything but they are expensive so don't make space marines if you can't afford it.

[azure topaz]

I can't invade Guyuan even after the raid successed

[north merlin]

kk

[north merlin]

how expensive are we talking? like 20 mils 30mils?

[tiny iris]

One tank in your infantry template is 50 tanks and how much it costs to make those tanks, it depends on which tank design you make.

[north merlin]

uhh can u give me a good space marine template? i'll have to see the template to see if it's worth it

[light goblet]

is this necessary in any way

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[ripe slate]

Youre just wasting pp at this point

The system tends to around 50/50 with random events, only when you need larger majorities for focuses should you invest some pp

[light goblet]

it looks aweso,me though thats all that matters 😎

im the super best president EVER

[tiny iris]

Why do you have a South Park character as your profile picture?
Seems so random.

[tiny iris]

Totally not rigged.

[light goblet]

nevermind china is fascist now its time to stop being neutral 😡

[ripe slate]

I used to like it and I needed a pfp

[tiny iris]

I like it too.
What do you think of mine?

[ripe slate]

Idk who the character is but 👍

[tiny iris]

He's from Death Note.
Goated anime.

[inland swift]

Hi guys can I ask you a question? I restarted playing HoI4 after several years and there is a bunch of new stuff added to the base game even without getting the new DLCs. For example the special projects. I'd like to know what was added to the base game and what changes with DLCs like Götterdämmerung. Where can I see that?

[gilded halo]

damn i didnt know this

[inland swift]

For example, about special projects, the Steam page for Götterdämmerung just says special projects were added, but they were also added to the base game. The Wiki also doesn't specify the differences

for example is the german focus tree different?

[tiny iris]

Look, if you don't want to spend like 200 Dollars on DLCs.
Don't buy a Paradox game.
Paradox Grand Strategy is not a hobby, it is a lifestyle.

[inland swift]

well you can subscribe for 7$ to all DLCs

but i actually dont want some DLCs

[gilded halo]

yeah thats the best option

you can cancel when you dont feel like it

[gilded halo]

oh just buy the ones you want 1 by 1 then

[inland swift]

I dont want the plane designer for example, it makes your basic planes worse than in the vanilla game

[tiny iris]

Yes, but it will become more expensive if you only use the subscription.

[inland swift]

yea so where can I see exactly what was added by those DLCs and in the base game?

so I can decide if I want the new DLCs or not

[gilded halo]

i never use navy for attack in the game, i have 210 hours, am i cooked i also cant get to even get the improved frigate or improved boats, my navy is just spam basic subamrines and i never got jet engines too

am i cooked

[inland swift]

for example watching gameplays I noticed they added the P 1000 Ratte, I think thats only in the Götterdämmerung DLC and not the base game

but idc about it

[cedar lance]

hello mark

[inland swift]

hello

[cedar lance]

wassup

[inland swift]

im not buying the DLC just for the P 1000 and some other stuff

is the german focus tree different?

apparently not

so most of the new stuff is free in the base game

[heavy vigil]

it is, only ahist though

[inland swift]

alright

[hoary olive]

Is it worth Adding line artillery for marine divisions? More specifically for Marines which target will be malta, and gibraltar

[snow rain]

Never
It ruins your org and amphibious atk buffswhich are the whole point of marines
And it doesn't give much bang for the buck, only giving you slighly more soft atk than inf, which isn't the only stat you need

[hoary olive]

thank you

[vivid field]

hi Which is better for Air Superiority: Agility or Air Defense? And should I use Fighters or Heavy Fighters?

[light goblet]

ahistorical really is something

[cedar lance]

i like using Real life/historical templates

just incase i need more Divs on the frontlines

[lilac ginkgo]

its expected

theres a ton of paths so theres a big chance itll go from ww2 to just world civilwar 2 instead

[light goblet]

🧐 and for some reason world tension will spike up at like 1939 between like 5 different factions

[lilac ginkgo]

maybe because by 1939 everyone is like kinda done with their civilwars

and guess what happens when their civilwars end

[umbral gull]

are these all the dlcs

[light goblet]

non-civil wars 👀🔥🔥

[lilac ginkgo]

they re civil but like 10x more people die

i call that manly

[cedar lance]

i like the TGWR mod

[light goblet]

china might just be the worst major 🧐

[exotic bridge]

new map guys

[heavy vigil]

theyre not a major

[light goblet]

arent they in the

interesting majors tab

if im not wrong

oh wait no im

stupid

😡

if so then it would probably be france

[cedar lance]

as Germany i like Mass producing and building the Panzerschiff and Pre-Dreadnought

[light goblet]

what is he doing

[gloomy hill]

Does somebody know why the soviets keep attacking me even if they lose all the Battles?

I can win offensively but i have no occasion to do that cuz im perma pinned

[light goblet]

because they can take

no step back 👀🔥

??

[spiral gorge]

historical game ;-;

[light goblet]

🧐

[gloomy hill]

And i also have green air

[north merlin]

any recommended cheap spacemarine templates for small nations like romania? I prioritize quantity of quality

[light goblet]

NOOOO!!!! LET ME KILL HIM!!!!

[lilac ginkgo]

Yes

[sharp gulch]

Jan 1940 am I doign decent

[cedar lance]

i like these German empire ships pre ww1 during ww1 and post ww1

[exotic bridge]

bye bye argentianians

[wide osprey]

why you ain't playing historically then

[hoary pecan]

ohh thank you

[exotic bridge]

rate the map guys

[viscid stirrup]

what timeline is this?

[exotic bridge]

ww2

well I skipped ww2

non historical so I decided to go the united america's route

[lime hinge]

whats the best hoi4 tutorial for beginner

[viscid stirrup]

the in game tutorial

[light goblet]

hopes and prayers

[lime hinge]

ok ty

[light goblet]

2 major powers brutally pummel 3 third world countries for conceiving the thought of being communist

monroe doctrine hell yeah

[heavy vigil]

sounds like my average run

[light goblet]

ok i completely forgot about war plan green 🧐

im not joining the allies theyre gonna drag me into more conflicts 😡

[fair horizon]

Why not own the other bits too? After all why shouldnt you?

[cedar lance]

im SO BORED

[lilac ginkgo]

what start date

[sharp gulch]

1936, im new to hoi4

[lilac ginkgo]

so you re cheating it seems

[sharp gulch]

I forgot that USSR attacks too on r256

why

how

[lilac ginkgo]

Its impossible to hold on against both Germany and the ussr

[sharp gulch]

civillian diffucily

[lilac ginkgo]

Plus you re still democratic/non aligned

[lilac ginkgo]

That doesnt make the ai that dumb

[vital cove]

its not lol

its definitely possible

[lilac ginkgo]

For a new player it is

[vital cove]

well yes

[lilac ginkgo]

he clearly mentioned hes a newbie

[sharp gulch]

Im not exactly new like ik what everythng does

but not navy lol

[small canyon]

does anyone wanna run MP and teach me a bit about this game? id be really grateful

[sharp gulch]

or how to make good tanks or the mate and all that

[lilac ginkgo]

How old are you

[fair horizon]

Tutorial needs a rework i agree

[small canyon]

20

[snow rain]

Too personal of a question

[lilac ginkgo]

Seriously now im asking because if you re 12 im not going to talk to you

[sharp gulch]

since then the germans proke my lines and the eastern fornt is a mess

[small canyon]

lowkey yah

[vital cove]

tanks are not really relevant most of the time anyways

air matters more

[sharp gulch]

i literally dont have enough divs

and have a 10k+ infantry equipem,nt deficit

[light goblet]

unc 😭

[lilac ginkgo]

How is that really personal i just dont want to talk to someone who isnt of age

[fair horizon]

Ngmi

[sharp gulch]

\im getting bombed into oblivion as well

[small canyon]

stfu😔

[vital cove]

this was a fun game

[sharp gulch]

any tips

[snow rain]

Asking randoms their age isn't a good behaviour

[light goblet]

🧐

next time just cede danzig first

[small canyon]

chill out

[snow rain]

Personal info like this are sensitive info

[light goblet]

then deal with the ussr

[sharp gulch]

and face russia?

ok

[small canyon]

dont argue about my age

[light goblet]

yeah

[sly venture]

whenever I defeat the Soviets Japan justifies on me for no reason

[lilac ginkgo]

Thats not sensitive and id rather ask than talk to a 10 year old without knowing

[snow rain]

I'm not angry or anything, just pointing it out. Be careful about your data online

[sharp gulch]

31k infantry equipment dificit

[small canyon]

to be fair i dont really expect anybody below the age of 15 to play this game

but sure

[sharp gulch]

im so cooked

[exotic bridge]

I'm tired and I felt like that was good enough for today

[lilac ginkgo]

Ive been playing since i was 13

[vital cove]

if you own any territory in asia, the Japanese will justify on you

[small canyon]

yeah, thanks but dont worry

[lilac ginkgo]

I mean here and there

[small canyon]

you a tuff guy then

[lilac ginkgo]

I quit

Because it gives me a big headache

[sly venture]

if I puppet the boarder with Japan will I be able to stop them from taking like 5% of Siberia

[lilac ginkgo]

I might come back to hoi4 soon

[sharp gulch]

Why is germany not doing wesserubung??

[lilac ginkgo]

I just had a break

[sharp gulch]

its spring 1940

[vital cove]

not sure

[fair horizon]

Not if they're at war with you already

[snow rain]

Poland not dead and rt56 changes A LOT

[vital cove]

they won't do it if they're still fighting Poland

[sharp gulch]

ohh got it

[fair horizon]

Puppets released during war are put into the same conflict

[vital cove]

its like that in vanilla too

[sly venture]

because what I do most of the time is puppet the boarder with Japan in the peace deal so they don’t take Siberia

[sharp gulch]

oh i see

[sly venture]

then when the peace deal ends they do a war with me

[vital cove]

they will attack the Benelux and france even if Poland is holding

but not denmark and Norway

and not the ussr

[surreal pike]

i accidentally made my government democratic
can i refascist it

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah

[surreal pike]

greece

[lilac ginkgo]

no

its a lost cause

[surreal pike]

YO IS THAT HIPPOCRATES

are you real hippocrates

[sly venture]

yes

top 5 real news

[surreal pike]

prove it

[sly venture]

how

[light goblet]

😡 catholic mexico spawned during my war with socialist mexico now they wont let me enter

[surreal pike]

only hippocrates would eat food

[sharp gulch]

welp gg

that was pretty fun ngl

[sly venture]

I call every Greek restaurant food authentic Greek cuisine

is that enough proof

[surreal pike]

wow

its really hippocrates

[vital cove]

don't use line artillery and don't use cav

[small canyon]

so aint no one here to run some MP?

[sly venture]

can someone tell what the bath tubs next to the tanks are

[light goblet]

🧐 cant you go cossack king for cav rush

[vital cove]

there were not using cossack king so

[sly venture]

Also how do I unlock the 4 spaces down below

They are locked for me

[light goblet]

wow

[sly venture]

is it a dlc or smt

[vital cove]

doctrines

[sly venture]

What doctrine?

[vital cove]

depends on your grand doctrine, it unlocks when you finish a specific subsdoctrine

[sly venture]

As Germany can I get it?

[sharp gulch]

LMAOOO

[steep quiver]

Guys, my pc is so ahh whenever I launch HOI4, it lags so much I have to shut it every time 😭

For now i'll just watch y'all play

😭

[vital cove]

as any nation you can

it just takes time

[sharp gulch]

this is the div im using

[sly venture]

For me it’s exactly the opposite I have like 3mbs of internet and the cloud can’t sync but my pc is a beast

[steep quiver]

WHAT pc do you havew

i may buy a new one sooner or later

cuzz this one is so laggy

it's my first pc too soo

it aged

[sly venture]

I use an rx 9070 xt and a 9800x3d

[lilac ginkgo]

What pc

Stick

[steep quiver]

Price?

[sly venture]

idk I bought a while back the price might have changed

[steep quiver]

nono bro it's a laptop 😭

[lilac ginkgo]

specs

[steep quiver]

i said pc cuz it's shorter

[tulip thorn]

pc is correct for laptops

[steep quiver]

i mean i say pc for boths

[steep quiver]

oh ok

anyways you feel me

[tulip thorn]

pc is correct for both Laptops and Desktops

[lilac ginkgo]

What specs

[steep quiver]

HOI4 on a laptop

[tulip thorn]

Since pc means personal computer

[sly venture]

my old laptop could not even run Google maps bro

[steep quiver]

want a screen recording to see how laggy it gets?

[lilac ginkgo]

Omg bro tell us the specs

Please

[tulip thorn]

What are the specs

[steep quiver]

bro the laptop i have has like 2 years and is already worse than GTA 6 on a 1990 Nokia

[steep quiver]

specs meaning

[sly venture]

say the specs

[steep quiver]

WHAT DOOES IT MEAN

[sly venture]

the parts on your laptop

[tulip thorn]

Like the cpu ram and gpu

[steep quiver]

where do i see them

[sly venture]

also don’t get a pc rn cause ram is overpriced

[steep quiver]

i'm saving

[sly venture]

Task manager

[fair horizon]

The single greatest battlion to exist. amtracs. They're like marines but 10x better

[tulip thorn]

Control+Shift+Escape

[steep quiver]

yeah mine does NOT have all this stuff

[steep quiver]

lemme check

[lilac ginkgo]

Specitications

Specifications

[steep quiver]

kkk

lemme see

[tulip thorn]

Mine doesnt even have all that much

[sly venture]

How do I get em

[tulip thorn]

2 of those things are only my storage

[fair horizon]

Research them, first tab in the truck line

[fallen garnet]

how come Im always getting destroyed in spain, do I need better Mountanieers?

[sly venture]

k

[tulip thorn]

512 gb nvme ssd and a 1tb 8 year old harddrive

[steep quiver]

doesen't exist

it only has

google search

[tulip thorn]

Bro

[fair horizon]

Imagine a mechanized div that gets bonuses for attacking over rivers 🤤

[lilac ginkgo]

Mines got an rtx4060 and an i512th gen with 32gb of ram

[steep quiver]

bro my pc is so cooked

[tulip thorn]

Hold control+Shift+escape

[sly venture]

open task manager ctrl shift es

[lilac ginkgo]

Or open task manager

[steep quiver]

nothing works

[fair horizon]

Right click your taskbar bud

[tulip thorn]

Right click on tast bar and click task manager

[steep quiver]

btw it's a chromebook so don't expect anything good

[steep quiver]

that's why i'm getting something new

[lilac ginkgo]

are you 11

Get off discord

[steep quiver]

15

[sly venture]

bro how can it even launch hoi4

[tulip thorn]

Brother

[steep quiver]

it can't

[light goblet]

goobsmooch

[lilac ginkgo]

And you dont know how to click on 2 buttons

[tulip thorn]

That would have been important information

[tulip thorn]

Yep

Very peak

[steep quiver]

it won't work dude i'm saying

[lilac ginkgo]

So your mouse doesnt work

[steep quiver]

nothing happens

[steep quiver]

when did you mention the mouse

[light goblet]

the war gets harder every day

[tulip thorn]

Just put chrome://system into your browser

[steep quiver]

ok ok

[jade hinge]

when is the next dlc coming out

[tulip thorn]

Just use geforce now my guy

That be the only way

[steep quiver]

now what do i have to do

after the ://system thing

[tulip thorn]

You just click enter

[heavy vigil]

HII DEMPSEY

[tulip thorn]

Hello casey

[steep quiver]

pok

ok

[heavy vigil]

do u play wart hunder i forgot

[tulip thorn]

I tried to get into it recently for more realistic naval battles

Didnt really like it

[heavy vigil]

i just killed an object 211 with the I-Go Ko

feelibg proud fr

[tulip thorn]

Tuff

Epic

[heavy vigil]

the tank for reference btw

(its so bad)

[tulip thorn]

Yeah I looked both up

[heavy vigil]

its like

the i-go ko is very bad at range fights because of a low velocity low piercing gun

its very slow so its bad at catching up with enemies

and its bad at close range because it has like 17 mm armor as front plate

its not very good

[fair horizon]

Japanese tanks are so funny because half of them actually do something and the other ones tickle people

[heavy vigil]

the i go is good

but its slow

and poorly armoredf

[fair horizon]

Chi Ha long gun

[echo basin]

Paradox...plsss...bring hoi4 on mobile...im tired of hoi4 wannabe mobile games slop

[heavy vigil]

im uptiering this thing to 5.7

might be a poor choice but i did better than in the chi ri

got a kill and assist

[light goblet]

mobile phones after detonating at the sheer thought of running hoi4

[fair horizon]

i like using the memeball launchers in italy

90/53 i think

[heavy vigil]

i hate the chi ri so much

it has such a good gun and fine frontal armor

[light goblet]

surrender 🥺 please 🥺

[heavy vigil]

but no sloped armor and the side armor just isnt there

and its huge

so you have this huge thing where you can never show your sides or you die

[fair horizon]

I dont bother worrying about armor anymore in war thunder, getting shot at in the first place is a mistake

[heavy vigil]

and its hit profile is just huge

[heavy vigil]

ive survived many shots in the chi to

because its armor is goated

[fair horizon]

Great gun too

[heavy vigil]

i just had the foolish expectation the chi ri would be like a better chi to

its like if the chi to was worse

[fair horizon]

Same gun right?

[heavy vigil]

yes

but larger hit profile and worse side armor

roughly same frontal armor

save for this plate on the chi ri

thats just a huge weak spot to the front armor

the top of the turret too

[fair horizon]

See i like to do something funny in war thunder that the american tree just teaches you naturally. Why bother being in front of the enemy when you can flank wide

[heavy vigil]

because my SIDE ARMOR SUCKS

[fair horizon]

Big flanks and german mains tunnel vision

[heavy vigil]

35 mm </3

[fair horizon]

Thats the best part, so does everyone else's armor

So you shoot them in the side

[heavy vigil]

notice how this side armor has significantly less weak spots

and its 1 br lower

[fair horizon]

44kph? Thats pretty quick

[heavy vigil]

its messed up

[heavy vigil]

theyre not slow

[cedar lance]

does the rise of nations mod still work?

[heavy vigil]

btw thoughts on the I-Go Ko speed

[fair horizon]

Could be faster

[heavy vigil]

its actual

1 kmh FASTER than the wikipedia speed

actually*

[fair horizon]

Im angry that the snail gave us the speed of the busted tog 2 instead of its real speed

[cedar lance]

can someone answer

[heavy vigil]

it might still be faster than the I-Go no?

[fair horizon]

No clue what that is sorry

[heavy vigil]

idk probably not

[cedar lance]

alr

[fair horizon]

If it had its real speed it would be but it goes half the speed it did irl because the one in the museum has a busted transmission or w/e

[cedar lance]

it is compatible with the last update

[fair horizon]

Give it a try

[heavy vigil]

how fast is it busted

[cedar lance]

ill do it when i can

[fair horizon]

Like 14kmh?

[heavy vigil]

thats not that bad

[fair horizon]

Its not horrible but like everyone races around you

Good gun tho

[heavy vigil]

just pretend to be faster

[lilac ginkgo]

I asked you to click and you daid it doesnt work

Said

[fair horizon]

I just pretend panthers dont have armor

[steep quiver]

maybe

nono ctrl + shift + esc didn't

[cedar lance]

i like RON mod a LOT

its my MOST FAV mod

[heavy vigil]

ive never played the US

ive played some US tanks tho

is it fun

to you*

[fair horizon]

Tog is british, i prefer italian tanks. No armor still but i get s gun i dont have to aim for pixels on. love me shermans though

[heavy vigil]

i liked italian tanks until i got to the sherman

and then i crashed out and didnt try them again

hungary is goated tho

[fair horizon]

Turan goes hard

[heavy vigil]

lowkey wanna go for this because its reverse speed looks so good

[quasi osprey]

[viscid stirrup]

yes it is

[cedar lance]

hey yalls

[fair horizon]

I cant play vehicles like that, i suck at using overpressure vehicles

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/escanor-5

[cedar lance]

who else here likes and plays the HOI4 rise of nations mod

[heavy vigil]

idk how to play anything

i just vibe

[fair horizon]

I just shoot german mains in the side of their tanks

Very enjoyable

[fair horizon]

Use them resources

[quasi osprey]

just got them in a peace treaty so didnt have time yet

[heavy vigil]

i play because i want to experience certain vehicles in tank v tank game

[fair horizon]

What even is it about?

[heavy vigil]

idc about american british or us tanks

or planes

tho i play planes a bit

[fair horizon]

I did that with the abrams but i mostly just play planes now, boats sometimes too

[heavy vigil]

how do u have such high level,,,,,,

[fair horizon]

Suffering builds character or smthn like that

[heavy vigil]

it always feels like everyone has had their lives to play war thunder

i got it maybe 2 years ago

[cedar lance]

its a BIG mod

[fair horizon]

I only started playing like 4 or 5 years ago i wanna say

[cedar lance]

it adds stuff from 1900 till 2060

[fair horizon]

Intervesting, i may check it out

[light goblet]

GIVE UP 😡

[heavy vigil]

im also very bad at shooter games because im just very bad with my eyes and brain