hoi4-general

[obsidian sigil]

those officers love getting nuked dont they

thats why you never forgive the japanese ww2 regime

[deft tangle]

Makes one wonder if peace would actually have been made if Japan didn't get two terrible blows in the form of the nukes

[obsidian sigil]

its 2 main things, the nukes and the soviets barreling into china

according to some historians, being communist is worse than getting nuked

at least in the perspective of japanese

[safe wing]

Yeah I can confirm this

[mossy cairn]

What😭

[obsidian sigil]

yeah

[safe wing]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall

[obsidian sigil]

uh released russian/soviet states have occupy eastern poland decision available

weirdly

even if soviet did it already in 1939

if it isnt ironman @mossy cairn just use console to fix

its a glitch and shouldnt happen

[mossy cairn]

Game 10/10
Dlc 10$/10$

I never play for ironman

[safe wing]

the plan would have also required the USSR @deft tangle

[obsidian sigil]

yeah then use commands

[safe wing]

USSR, USA, and UK would be invading Japan

[deft tangle]

Damn

[obsidian sigil]

depends, cold war mentality was already in place

[deft tangle]

I always assumed it would be just the usa, uk, and maybe australia

[obsidian sigil]

usa might not want soviets in the home islands

soviets will go into korea and at most hokkaido

[safe wing]

I read that the US high command predicted it would take till 1946 to take the main island

[fair horizon]

Tiny navy

[obsidian sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-sigma-alpha-how-bro-felt-after-saying-that-sigma-lion-gif-13957304746104521882

[safe wing]

and also the Atomic Bombs were supposed to be used on Germany originally

but by the time the first one was tested Germany was defeated

[obsidian sigil]

surprisngly the nukes arent really that much worse than regular firebombing, just far more instant shocking

and*

tokyo firebombing caused far worse

[safe wing]

fire bombings in Tokyo caused worse

[deft tangle]

At the time did they have any hope of Japan surrendering without the nukes nor without the invasion, like a prolonged siege?

[safe wing]

I mean all of Japans high ranking leaders were pretty set on the whole fight to the death thing

[deft tangle]

Talking about nukes, I'm probably going to have to nuke these mfs

[obsidian sigil]

dresden caused like 20k deaths over a few days

[safe wing]

Tokyo was 100k I think

[obsidian sigil]

but tokyo also had a lot of people

density is a factor

[safe wing]

and was made of wood

[obsidian sigil]

dresden is more similar to hiroshima

over a week

[deft tangle]

True, it might as well have been common sense that Japan would not give up without a fight

[obsidian sigil]

deaths can easily rival a nuke

with firebombing

do you think japan would be oiled up enough to face these

lol

[fair horizon]

They couldnt even face ships be brought back from the dead

[obsidian sigil]

in my game japan didnt even finish yamato before i downfalled them

sadge

[deft tangle]

Germany has 8k more fighters than I do

It's going to take a while to catch up

[deft tangle]

70 mils producing fighters

I accidentally tagged you btw didn't meant to do it lol

[heavy vigil]

@fair horizon navy

[obsidian sigil]

only 65 dockyards?

[latent estuary]

Hi (first post bc I just got the game)

[obsidian sigil]

uhh looking at my montana classes

they do kinda be

glass cannons

hmmmmmm

eh sinking is for losers anyway

ALWAYS ENGAGE

[deft tangle]

Sup

[azure walrus]

this happens

[late trout]

Pretty fire map mod

whats it called?

[azure walrus]

decided to be fair and split the world along these lines

[late trout]

Spain and portugal

[winter olive]

I'm debating whether to make a macro that pauses the game after 5 minutes, leaves it paused for a minute, then unpauses it, for multiplayer

[deft tangle]

Its pretty awesome indeed

I forgot the name tho, I'll take a look at it in a few minutes

[heavy vigil]

i havent done any conquering and its russia

the big deal is the amount of output

they get a lot

• raiding MIO

[late trout]

alr

[copper sluice]

man conquering usa as japan is pretty fun

[azure walrus]

brussels treaty signed; "nato" dissolved

"no more mr nice guy" ahh us

[modest kelp]

@kindred hedge i gotta go

[deft tangle]

There, it's called vintage map mod

[deft tangle]

May find it in the steamworkshop

[dusky burrow]

japan is screwed

[obsidian sigil]

i wish you could sell old ships

[obsidian sigil]

wait how did u get iceland puppet

i didnt get it in my game

iceland wont even join my faction

[azure walrus]

fr, hiroshima is going to be eating uranium

[azure walrus]

idk im not the us

[winter tapir]

is anyone losing connection?

i keep losing connection

[sudden grotto]

noice

[winter fulcrum]

nice

what year

[sudden grotto]

39 lol

49

imma ruin this by making the reichkomissariats

[copper sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

[obsidian sigil]

why

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[winter fulcrum]

im at 56 and i cant beat the usa

[sudden grotto]

because yes

why the prince of wurttemberg is the leader of hindustan lol

[obsidian sigil]

because german india is the peak of schizophrenia so why not

[sudden grotto]

all of this and austria is not cored

P E A K

[obsidian sigil]

did u

fail aunchless

[sudden grotto]

they went hasburg.

[sudden grotto]

dawg, they rushed hasburg and got inot EU

[obsidian sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[sudden grotto]

austraia nad nz can live, i am not that motivated to create australia rk too

[obsidian sigil]

new zealanders somehow avoiding german dictatorship because hitler's mapmakers forgot them on the map

[sudden grotto]

49 and yet i got finish the focus tree

[sudden grotto]

never bother a kiwi lover

[deft tangle]

Diabolical

[sudden grotto]

too lazy for devs to make the flag for mexico rk lol

[winter fulcrum]

im losing alot of men in this war so im making them lose more

[obsidian sigil]

get rk+ if you want more rks

[sudden grotto]

i am done with germany for a bit 💔 took the whole day to do this

[late trout]

Okay thanks

[winter fulcrum]

im about to unleash all of hell upon the usa with my 8 nukes

[winter olive]

i made a macro that pauses the game every 5 minutes, leaves it paused for a minute, then unpauses it. to use it you install the macro program, boot up hoi4 and pause it, then play the macro using the program

its for multiplayer

[winter fulcrum]

genuinely what is the point of this

[winter olive]

so you can take a breather every 5 minutes playing multiplayer

[winter olive]

you want it?

[winter fulcrum]

why not js pause it urself

[winter olive]

because you lose track of time

and if someone pauses everybody else pauses too

[winter fulcrum]

japan being a goat 🥹

[azure walrus]

america partition

its like im in some king of high castle

[winter olive]

texas wasn't having any of it

[winter fulcrum]

how do i get out of this mess

[winter olive]

if japans invading america, were invading mexico

[winter fulcrum]

i had 10m available men and now im down to 1.5m

[winter olive]

are you down to scraping the barrel?

[winter fulcrum]

no

i cant egt it

get*

i dont have enough war support

[obsidian sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-gif-19534315

[winter olive]

did you use the war support options?

send attaches?

[winter fulcrum]

i did not do that

thanks for reminding me that it gives war support

[winter olive]

does the film industry option reknew or can you only press that once?

[winter fulcrum]

how do i have more tanks than guns bruh

[winter fulcrum]

i think its only once

[winter olive]

also you have those other decisions that give war support for casualties

[winter fulcrum]

yes

[winter olive]

you cut off the heavy tanks on the bottom but i can see.. thats a lot of tanks

i had like 7k light tanks just sitting around

[azure walrus]

rare w for wang jingwei thinkers

(all cored btw)

[winter olive]

but 28k heavy tanks is redonkulous

[winter fulcrum]

romans are goated as always

[obsidian sigil]

fire whoever is in charge of production ong

[winter olive]

pretty nice navy

[obsidian sigil]

navy...you say?

[winter fulcrum]

navy?

[winter olive]

damn dude, docks going gangbusters

[obsidian sigil]

i cant see capital ship count

[winter fulcrum]

so peak

[winter olive]

lol, duke. legends never die

[fierce grail]

Average MP game in this discord bro

[fierce grail]

well... at least our trains run on time...

[winter olive]

lol

why does everybody want to conquer europe? the weather isn't even that nice

[obsidian sigil]

uh

um

they wanna immigrate

yeah

lol

[fierce grail]

this achievment has so much aura ngl

[azure walrus]

is there a cores mapmode

[fierce grail]

nah

paradox hates us

[azure walrus]

😠

[obsidian sigil]

hmm

might yunnan this

1k hours and i never play ironman

[azure walrus]

time for unification

apparently the uniquely-named puppets are all japanese settlement zones?

cool

is there a focus or smth that lets me core all this

interesting

[gilded wasp]

Bit cursed but.. Austria Hungary is BACK baby, the combined forces of Italy and Germany can NOT stop this stanky ass empire.

(All before 1942 btw. What do I do now.)

[azure walrus]

where are my cores gng

i was told i would unite asia under one state

where is my asian state

all I see is great japan

[gilded wasp]

That Empire is.. Very... Great.

I mean a good chunk of it is places nobody wanna live.

Mountains, frozen tundras.

[azure walrus]

and yet another good chunk of it is probably places people wanna live

australia, the japanese home islands

singapore

[gilded wasp]

Oh yeah very good chunk-

Did you just say

[azure walrus]

china

[gilded wasp]

Australia is considered a place people want to live in

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[azure walrus]

idk i havent been there but i guess there's sea enjoyers and marine biology enthusiasts whod like it

i havent been so idk

feel free to correct me

anyway theres also california

i think people might like california

please dont leave the empire

[gilded wasp]

This was hirohitos wet dream.

Or Tojo, idk alot about japanese politics around that time.

[gilded wasp]

Speaking of which. Wut now.

I got 86 divs and im about 20k guns deficient

I wanna wait till I get 120 divs and then give it a shot but

Allies looking chunky

[azure walrus]

why is fascist japan the only path that cant core asia?

[silk fern]

It’s not

[azure walrus]

or is monarchist japan prevented from doing it too

[silk fern]

Fascist japan can if I’m not mistaken

[azure walrus]

mb i dont have ncns

oh how

[silk fern]

Somewhere on the right side of the fascist Japan tree

[azure walrus]

you mean this right

it doesnt give cores

[gilded wasp]

@silk fern What would u do, deficit dissapears in 180ish days

My airforce weak.. Sad, very sad.

[silk fern]

Consolidate

[gilded wasp]

400 dinky planes

[silk fern]

The divisions

Give up on the air force

[gilded wasp]

Theyre all inf. (NOT THE TEMPLATES.)

With a few tanks I stole from the czechs

(thank you my wonderful czech friends for the tanks I havent touched and battleplanned sinc etheyre so shit

https://tenor.com/view/larp-sorry-kid-larp-or-be-larped-rise-of-nations-nation-rising-simulator-gif-18202816756838931088

Wonder what mod I should get

Gotterdamburg? I was trying to do a funny austrian thing but that didnt work since its the base template

Js wanna play more nations beside a few.

[restive sable]

fascist japan is supposed to be oriented around puppeting asia

not integrating and coring

you do get a formable for greater japan but it cores pacific islands

nothing really of note

[fair horizon]

better garrison div and click the decision that gives 3% back

[fair horizon]

Where carrier

[pliant ginkgo]

Just a calm little Sweden game. It’s my first time playing (but it had the basic focus tree, so I had to make do with what I had)

Btw I decided to not join the axis

Since I don’t want to become part of that shitshow

[woven gate]

today, in episode 2 of me and bro screwing around: LITHUANIA and FINLAND @crisp wyvern

[zinc plume]

is there a modding channel?

[crisp wyvern]

We were talking as if we were depressed, which really suits the miserable experience of playing Finland and Lithuania 😭

[woven gate]

i was having hella fun

[crisp wyvern]

I was surprised that I was even doing something at all, especially after cutting murmansk in half

I'm truly, Carl G mannerheim

[woven gate]

and i took minsk with french help

24 Width Infantry is broken to say the least

[crisp wyvern]

ugh, french

frauds

[crisp wyvern]

half the Baltic population in a single division template

https://tenor.com/view/finland-hetalia-aph-axis-powers-tino-väinämöinen-gif-14620152517857737840

[woven gate]

somehow mobilized 615,000 men

granted, i was on All Adults Serve

[crisp wyvern]

I mobilized like, 445,000 men in all adults serve

Could mobilize up to 1.22Mil men

Million men army as Finland is crazy

[woven gate]

https://tenor.com/view/lithuania-hetalia-happy-anime-gif-7477239

[winter fulcrum]

now they are cooked

[crisp wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/finland-hetalia-aph-axis-powers-tino-väinämöinen-gif-14620152517857737840

[winter fulcrum]

hmm why is a bomber flying alone to ottowa?

[woven gate]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flight-surprised-shocked-gif-14940640833910619525

[raven lava]

Thank u

[azure walrus]

Then what’s with the focus description for “Promote Pan-Asianism” focus talking about uniting Asia under one state?

[winter fulcrum]

now 2 more alone going to vancouver and seattle? whats going on?

[karmic viper]

yup

this makes sense

[quasi osprey]

Why does hungary get so much in this german path

[faint fiber]

stop eating other nations

[quasi osprey]

Wdym

[faint fiber]

you ate half of poland and romania

[quasi osprey]

I am protecting the Hungarian population from soviet threats😇

[quasi osprey]

Also I didn't do that hungary did that

[faint fiber]

wait are you germany

[quasi osprey]

Yes

[faint fiber]

oh nevermind, carry on

[quasi osprey]

Ok

[quasi osprey]

Idk if thats the best option but I released the non core Chechoslovakian land as a puppet.

But they dont have much I can really get from them so I think this is best

[vagrant hinge]

i love how the island nations are safe

[winter fulcrum]

thanks for reminding me

[quasi osprey]

Not all of them😭

[sudden kettle]

im playing the fascist path for the UK and i just defeated the US and all of my former puppets capitulated along side them, I annexed the US and puppeted all of my former dominions but they just declared independence after the war.

[winter fulcrum]

why would you repuppet them

[sudden kettle]

Im trying to do the Imperial Federation, am i not supposed to repuppet them?

[winter fulcrum]

oh idk ive never dont that before

[vagrant hinge]

they had high autonomy i guess?

i struggle with autonomy

[sudden kettle]

Idk they just declared independence like a day after the peace conference and im doing iron man mode so i cant go back to check

[pliant ginkgo]

Are these normal casualty amounts for 1943? Thank god I stayed neutral and didn’t join the meat grinder

[vagrant hinge]

that sucks mann, maybe you can puppet them forcefully again since i think they have very low manpower/army when

[winter fulcrum]

How long was the war going on

[pliant ginkgo]

Usual starting time of June 22nd 1941

[winter fulcrum]

Okay so 2 years? I mean i think thats average since both ai’s will have large armies by then

[exotic bridge]

never seen yugoslavia split so much before

[pliant ginkgo]

This is Europe rn. Germany has been stuck there since Barbarossa started

Like I don’t think they even reached Moscow

Let alone Minsk or Riga

[vagrant hinge]

💀

thats why i have the demand mod

[pliant ginkgo]

I’m not even kidding, I’ve been watching the eastern front and the Germans haven’t lost or gained a single tile for the past 3 months

[sudden kettle]

im trying to get achievements, im guessing i need to either do the decisions to start like civil wars in the dominions or like first annex them then release them

but the decision to start the civil war in them are so expensiveee

[vagrant hinge]

it mightve been the low autonomy, or a war bug

i usually try to leave my puppets out of wars but absorb their military divisions

[weak rivet]

why does playing as uk seems the most fun for trolling

[exotic bridge]

easiest blockade I've gotten ever

blockade?

I meant encirclement

[weak rivet]

oh lol i was trying to figure out what it was

what major country should i play next (i have played ussr, and germany)

[quasi osprey]

When you played germany did you play historical or non historical

German democratic and monarchist paths are quite nice

[green magnet]

def alot of things missing but the general stuff is done

shaped the borders the best i could

and gave everyone research all

[exotic bridge]

alt history is actually hilarious

[vagrant hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-no-no-no-tanklorde-gif-13191678230910881285

hungary probably

[exotic bridge]

yeah I'm backstabbing those guys real soon

I think allies are overrated

[iron plume]

I'd be mad if I couldn't win without breaking rules too bro its ok @empty mural

[quasi osprey]

Are you germany?

[exotic bridge]

yes

[quasi osprey]

Oh ok

Wondered if you were poland or smth

The peasant union poland

[exotic bridge]

I never liked playing poland

but I just turned off historical ai everything is random

it's funny

[quasi osprey]

Yes they are often quite boring

[quasi osprey]

Either giving in to germany and destroying soviets or the other way around idk

[exotic bridge]

yeah I found poland to be too challenging to the point where it's just not fun

but now I'm trying arm up for ww3

[quasi osprey]

Yeah even countries like Austria can be way more fun

[quasi osprey]

When I played Austrian empire I ended up with an empire stretching from Northern Italy to the eastern tip of Kazakhstan

I wonder who will cause the most world tension If germany is monarchist

[exotic bridge]

how many years did this take

[lofty yoke]

300 yer

[exotic bridge]

well that's bold

I didn't even want poland

they attacked me

[atomic grove]

finally

[exotic bridge]

generals only able to operate 10 divs is lowkey sad

but beautiful achievment tho

[inland radish]

Whats a good inf to art ratio in single player as a minor country

[quasi osprey]

Approximately until 1942

[exotic bridge]

that's pretty good

[quasi osprey]

This was about half a year before

[exotic bridge]

I might try this actually

[quasi osprey]

It's very nice you get lots of cores plus you are fascist which is the advantage compared to Austria hungary

And you can core all of germany if you control germany

[exotic bridge]

holy moly I'm about to encircle like 20 polish divs

[oak kestrel]

does it need gottedammerung, and how to deal with germay

[inland radish]

?

[lofty yoke]

what is inf?

[acoustic crystal]

I’m new to HOI4 and my friend is helping me out get started and I suggested to my friend that we invade Switzerland as Austria and some other country and he said “yeah for defense, Switzerland has like 12 people and they fight with sticks, we would not be beating Germany” lmao

Or something along those lines

[lofty yoke]

if i understand you , you want to invade Switzerland

[acoustic crystal]

Well i thought maybe they would be good country to invade but then again don’t know much about HOI4

I’m sure there’s someway to make it work, but with my experience there’s a better chance of hell freezing before that happens

[lofty yoke]

you are Austria that right or your friend

[acoustic crystal]

Well im part Austrian, not full blooded

[lofty yoke]

in the hoi4

[acoustic crystal]

Oh

I’m playing as Germany and he’s playing Italy

[lofty yoke]

ok yo can win esay to others country

[exotic bridge]

sometimes I regret playing alt history

[acoustic crystal]

Why?

[exotic bridge]

look at my situation

[merry sequoia]

Can someone help me figure out why as soon as I go to war my entire military just spontaneously falls apart?

[grave sonnet]

Only thing that can make this worse is Sweden being a major

[acoustic crystal]

I’m currently new to the game so im not very experienced

[acoustic crystal]

.

[exotic bridge]

supplies and dog water equipment/divs

[exotic bridge]

yeah but it says the faction names

[merry sequoia]

Yeah but its me (with very good supplies and decent equipment, versus bicyclists

And then my entire military collapses same day

[lofty yoke]

don't wary Germany tanks soo good , but tanks on the Poland

[acoustic crystal]

I’m sure you’ll be able to overcome it

[rich nacelle]

I once had each of the Chinese warlords be a major in the commintern with the Soviet Union as the leader.

[exotic bridge]

are you producing enough? sometimes in a big war supplies just evaporate

[rich nacelle]

There were at least ten majors in each faction.

[merry sequoia]

Its a pretty small war, Netherlands versus Belgium

[lofty yoke]

but a line

[exotic bridge]

damn

then I don't really know

[lofty yoke]

huh

[grave sonnet]

Talk about a warlord

[rich nacelle]

Do you have air superiority? Could you also share your template and what equipment you are producing? Are you letting your division gain planning bonus.

[rich nacelle]

Pretty much every ahistorical game I play ends up with half the world being majors.

[merry sequoia]

Well i lost on Ironman so im doing another run, and i do have air superiority against the Belgians

[grave sonnet]

My ones endup with supercharged allies

[grave sonnet]

Italy ,France, UK,USA & more countries

[lofty yoke]

air support could help

[rich nacelle]

For me it’s alway the Comintern. I don’t even think god would know how the Soviets naval invade Japan and the UK.

[inland radish]

Infantry

[rich nacelle]

I always play USA too

[inland radish]

?

[grave sonnet]

I like playing minor nations more than majors

[merry sequoia]

Actually what would a good division width be for going into belgium?

[rich nacelle]

I never find minor nations fun tbh.

I have tried most of them

[grave sonnet]

I dislike majors Because they are too ez

[rich nacelle]

For me, it is spend 500 years getting enough infantry equipment to make one division.

[lofty yoke]

idk, arty is good

[rich nacelle]

Only minors I haven’t tried are the South American ones, and I haven’t tried them because I don’t feel like using all my civs for trading steel.

Most I did was try to form Gran Columbia as Venezuela during one of my first times playing hoi4. I remember being so happy having beaten Columbia.

[pallid stone]

This could age well

@tiny iris

[rich nacelle]

I got to go to bed lolz

See the reply tmrw

[tiny iris]

There is some things in HOI4 that sounds so bad out of context.
Minor nations, meaning nations that aren't that strong, they are called minors.
The short word for command power in the game is even worse.

[pallid stone]

I know you flopatron

[tiny iris]

Political power is called pp.

[pallid stone]

Bro I cant even say pdf

[lofty yoke]

for new players i recommend this mood ( Modifier Icons )

[pallid stone]

I tried to say it and the server owners or something have to view it

[tiny iris]

The filters here are very strict, no doubt made by Casey to control the server.

[pallid stone]

I mean reasonable

You gotta go?

In ten minutes?

[tiny iris]

I think Casey is in the illuminati.
I think he controls all of the world's superpower's nuclear weapons.

[tiny iris]

It's Friday, I go later.

[pallid stone]

Oh yeah I frogot

[pallid stone]

Your gonna get us banned solodude

🥹

[graceful kayak]

hey quick q: i sent some volunteers to spain but they dont want to move to the marked frontline, why?

[tiny iris]

I speak the truth, no matter the consequence.

[exotic bridge]

all these divs encircled

[tiny iris]

Why did you let D Day succeed in the first place?

[exotic bridge]

it didn't

it's 1940

[pallid stone]

Guys can qnyone else feel their organs touching eachother

[lofty yoke]

Click on your mouse

[exotic bridge]

poland declared war on me

[toxic urchin]

I don’t understand navy

[tiny iris]

And America joined.
When did you declare war on Poland?

[exotic bridge]

I was relaxing in my balkan unified fascism and then got sucked into a war

[tiny iris]

I thought you played Germany.

[exotic bridge]

I am germany yes

[empty fox]

How to manage supply to troops in frontline I was playing germany attacking belgium and Netherlands had allies italy sent unit also what happened was there was many units in borders and supply collapsed how to manage that ?

[honest night]

You can turn of allied supply and make sure to have trains and trucks so you can motorise supply, also logistics company can help

[exotic bridge]

increase railroad levels and use trucks for close supply

[empty fox]

Do I have to add logistics in both infantry and tank template?

[honest night]

If your able to yes, if you don’t have the equipment use it for just the tanks

also if you have any line arty that eats up supply like crazy

You might also need to turn of the channel as it could be sub raiding as well

[empty fox]

I upgraded bottleneck rail did not know about allied supply so that did not help also it was showing red over supply hub option in supply map

[exotic bridge]

main character syndrome ahh

what does bro think he's doing

[honest night]

Template looks mostly fine abit large on width, also if possible could you show me the supply map where your having issues with supply?

[lofty yoke]

lol , i just want to help other plays i have no problem

[honest night]

Oh I see your talking to the other guy

[lofty yoke]

yes

[lofty yoke]

if no one use arty, that arty advantages

[merry sequoia]

Okay, got around having to invade Belgium because the finally for one run, decided to join my union

[lofty yoke]

What you want pro 🫩😂

[exotic bridge]

turbocharged FW190 with 6 20 mils and 4 50's

[quasi osprey]

A bit late but when you do the focus to reform the central powers germany gets scared and stops trying to anshluss you and it does need goterdamerung

[keen pebble]

ive got no supply on my frontlines so i cant push and they cant beat me in a defensive battle, what do I do?

[exotic bridge]

supercharged stuka with 34 ground attack

[oak kestrel]

might try it out today then

[exotic bridge]

who needs tactical or strat bombers when you have the bombers

[oak kestrel]

just never played austria

[wide osprey]

uuuuuuuuuuh build supply nodes? 🧐

and why do you think you need 3 armies in there

[lofty yoke]

Oh yehh

[cyan spoke]

.

[lofty yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

[exotic bridge]

this might be a little slow for 41 but I was a little delayed...

[last cave]

Eid Mubarak for the Muslims brothers!

[heavy vigil]

no have

[grave sonnet]

Allah razı olsun ☝🏼

[lofty yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/say-wallahi-speed-say-wallah-put-that-on-allah-speed-speed-cry-gif-7244792130029393544

[lofty yoke]

I want IRELAND so Bad 🥹

[vagrant hinge]

fr i love playing small nations

for me its more fun going from nothing to a regional power then a major one

[vagrant hinge]

gosh i hate the amazonas

[woven gate]

real

[keen pebble]

I dont really know im new

[woven gate]

i played Lithuania yesterday

very fun

Lithuanian Junta

you get a ton of Military buffs

[keen pebble]

I just thought that when im in war I put all my soldiers on the enemy border?

[vagrant hinge]

peak

ive been playing netherlands

[woven gate]

i'm not quite sure how to play the netherlands

[vagrant hinge]

you can let them gain some land to get them out of the amazonas and then do a naval invasion on the mainland

or just keep them inside the amazonas

[vagrant hinge]

i united the low countries and idk what to do next

ill probably go to war with france or germany

[woven gate]

prepare for the actual onslaught of germany i guess

[vagrant hinge]

probably both to form lotharingia

ill need to join the comintern tho

i hate joining big factions they take all my points

[woven gate]

what's lotharingia

[vagrant hinge]

its like

[woven gate]

i joined the allies and got 36% war score against the soviets as Lithuania

[vagrant hinge]

a remnant of the carolingian empire i think?

[woven gate]

if you wait till 1939 to unify the Baltics and then reform your military, you're gonna have a Big Industry and Competent Military

[vagrant hinge]

it was basically the benelux all the way down to switzerland

[woven gate]

that said it's risky as all hell

[woven gate]

must be a new update, i only have up to NSB

[vagrant hinge]

i wanna play as any nordic country to form scandinavia and the baltics

thatll be fun fr

[vagrant hinge]

its a mod heh

[woven gate]

i think it was a stroke of luck that the Soviets took till like late 39/early 40 to demand annexation

maybe not i just read that it's usually later

MAYBE i found the Liet strat of all time?

[vagrant hinge]

frfr

now form the commonwealth

[woven gate]

i unified the Baltics and went from like 16 Factories to 62 Factories

[vagrant hinge]

i always try to stay neutral until later so i can at least defend myself from majors

and build up my intelligence agencies to the max so i can have advantages

[modern torrent]

we frying them lowk

craziest part is i naval invaded them from greenland

[woven gate]

it ended badly for them (my buddy was playing Finland)

yes i liberated Belarus it's a running gag

[quasi osprey]

Yeah its quite fun I you know the strat and most of the land is basically just you asking other countries for land and then fighting when you already have cores on all of austria hungary

[woven gate]

i was on All Adults serve, had an Army Size of 615,000

[oak kestrel]

Do you get them as puppets like austria hungary or do you annex the lands immidiatly

[woven gate]

42 Divisions i think

24 Width Infantry with Support Artillery

great division

[quasi osprey]

Thr Austrian empire path you just annex them which is way easier

[oak kestrel]

ok thats good, its annoying when you onlly get them as puppets

[quasi osprey]

But do the central powers focus and the focus after coring bohemian or hungary that turns into the Austrian empire which requires you to own sudetenland as well which germany will ask u for

[oak kestrel]

should i just rush the political path or do other focuses at the same time?

[vagrant hinge]

i didnt check my army size as the benelux but i had 2 armies of 24 divisions and one with 14 or so, with medium tanks, artillery and stuff

[quasi osprey]

Mostly political but if you have time also do the focus to revive the phoenix insurance company

[quasi osprey]

But you will have to wait a bit for that

[vagrant hinge]

so im ready to defend myself but its tricky trying to build a large army as netherlands since theres a national spirit that nerfs the hell out of your manpower and war support

[woven gate]

i didn't have any tanks

i'm not really a tank user

i like Shock Infantry

i can use Cavalry well too

[vagrant hinge]

i started using tanks recently

[vivid field]

I have a confusing situation: I haven't activated any planning, but I'm still getting the planning bonus.

[woven gate]

i can use them i just don't unless i'm a major power

[vagrant hinge]

lol all the medals vs just one

[vivid field]

@vagrant hingewhich medals have that effect ?

i dont active planing before battle

i sure that

[vagrant hinge]

im still trying to understand which templates to use with which countries so i just test and go with what feels okay

[vivid field]

this is bug ?

[vagrant hinge]

i used to only use infantry lol

[woven gate]

i mostly still do but with really good doctrines

[vagrant hinge]

idk but if i had to guess id say theres a base bonus that gets better with time?

[woven gate]

Assault Infantry and Defensive Postures are my favorites

[vagrant hinge]

so u only have the basic percentage, or you have a medal or something

[woven gate]

Rapid Domination and Mission Type Tactics are great too

sometimes Infiltration Tactics

[vagrant hinge]

ohhh

[woven gate]

literally ALWAYS use Field Engineering

[vagrant hinge]

i use a lot of artillery so i mostly do superior firepower and stuff that enhances them

then i use hella planes

[woven gate]

i generally use either Superior Firepower or Grand Battleplan

[pastel aspen]

hi

[woven gate]

sometimes i'll use Mobile Warfare if i wanna speedrun

but that's only as a few countries (Germany, Britain)

[vagrant hinge]

mechanized wave is peak i think

[vagrant hinge]

hi

[woven gate]

mechanized is fun when i feel like getting it

generally i main the Dominions of Canada and Australia though

so not much reason to make mech

[winter olive]

field engineering makes regular engineers too good, you never use armored engineers anymore if you take that

I could see the one that reduces artillary width being useful

[inland falcon]

wow, i just woke up from a horrible nightmare where the doctrine system looked like this!

[winter olive]

the new one is pretty great, isn't it?

[inland falcon]

also some very odd things going on in west asia

[inland falcon]

its a lot better yeah, although i swear they changed it pretty recently to the old new one

[winter olive]

wait, they changed it back?

why would they do that?

wait i'm not following

[inland falcon]

what? no

[winter olive]

whats the old new one?

[inland falcon]

there was the old system where you researched it like any other technology

[winter olive]

ohhhh

[inland falcon]

then they changed it to this

and now the new one

[winter olive]

the OLD new one. makes perfect sense

i thought you were talking about a new new one

[vagrant hinge]

ive mostly played argentina and sweden

[inland falcon]

paradox creating a brand new doctrine system just to immediately change it within less than one update

[winter olive]

i'm save scumming a lot

[woven gate]

never really played either

[winter olive]

i mean, i'm not loading that often but i save every half hour or so

[inland falcon]

baffling statement, why?

[vagrant hinge]

theyre fun and beginner friendly

[inland falcon]

huh. valid

[vagrant hinge]

i enjoyed conquering most of south america as commie argentina

[inland falcon]

its kind of wild to me this game still brings in new players after almost ten years

[vagrant hinge]

and forming the nordic defense pact as sweden is also fun

[fair horizon]

Paradox games be like that

Also the addition of a sub makes it feel more approachable

[winter olive]

eventually this game is going to be a subscription or open source

[fair horizon]

And once they click buy on the sub its too late

[vagrant hinge]

ill make sure my kids know about paradox games

theyre peak

[winter olive]

if EU V was any indication, paradox is going to have push a lot harder if they want to make EUV a viable platform

So if they try to make an HOI5, you know its going to be like trying to dislodge a very settled fanbase

[lofty yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/housewife-hula-hoop-vacuum-cleaning-house-gif-22767401

[inland falcon]

1000 years of hearts of iron 4

[lofty yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-lmao-meme-lmao-gif-lol-lol-cat-gif-4552813418803199403

[inland falcon]

in this DLC, we are giving poland its 357th rework

[winter olive]

I've wanted to go back to playing Shadow Empire, but i feel like i can't quit until I've taken out Russia on a mostly historical game

as germany

there are still some people who play hearts of iron 3. I wanted to learn it first but it had a bug and would crash randomly.

[tulip thorn]

I wanted to learn hoi3, then I got to the air system

Went right back to vic 2

Aka the best paradox game

[fair horizon]

(colombia still dorsnt have a tree)

[lofty yoke]

hoi3!

[winter olive]

is there a way to just transport troops normally by air without paradropping them?

[tulip thorn]

nope

[fair horizon]

Stellaris is because i can play an authoritarian regime of space butterflies

[winter olive]

that seems.. i dunno, important

[tulip thorn]

I could never get into stellaris

[winter olive]

ha, yeah i've done that before

[fair horizon]

Its not for the faint of heart

[winter olive]

isolated philodospher king space butterflies with an imperial government

[tulip thorn]

Still easier than hoi3

Way easier than hoi3

[winter olive]

I didn't like the nerf to citizen service

i think it used to give like 10% specialist output

[winter olive]

or was that something else.. i don't remember but i tried making a race of Star Trooper Space Koalas and was flustered

[tulip thorn]

You arent a paradox game player till you form Italy as Tuscany in vic 2

[lofty yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-beyond-the-boundary-kyoukai-no-kanata-mirai-kuriyama-gif-4302316077637802160

[tulip thorn]

Without the help of the french or Austrians

[inland falcon]

we are ALL waiting for more latin america content

[winter olive]

is it normal for your nation in EU 4 to be broke and have to borrow money from the pope?

[fair horizon]

Ive never even played vic2, brain not powerful enough to understand 3 paradox games

[tulip thorn]

Idk maybe

[tulip thorn]

I fully understand 2 paradox games

Hoi4 and Vic 2

[vagrant hinge]

its a requirement even in ck3

[tulip thorn]

And I partially understand Eu4

[lofty yoke]

Imagine they added an alt history to America

[tulip thorn]

Imagine they added real alt history content to america

The current alt hist paths dont count

They dont exist

[winter olive]

just seems like the game should be a bit more upfront about that, you might never know and wonder why your too broke to fight all the time

[tulip thorn]

I've never had to because every single Eu4 playthrough I do the pope hates me

And I mean he hates me

[lofty yoke]

I want to see the others president wow that wd be peak

on tree

[winter olive]

EU is the period of history i had the most trouble with during history. i missed a lot of class at the time and couldn't focus on the material, it just seemed so boring.

[fair horizon]

I like stellaris because it lets me make all the ugly aliens do the manual labor in my utopian empire (utopia for my moths not them)

[tulip thorn]

And my rival is always the the head of the papal thing and constantly excommunicate me

Over and over again

[fair horizon]

Just be a prodestant and they cant or something like that

[vagrant hinge]

i bought almost all stellaris dlcs, played three times and had a hiatus bc i literally exterminated three races at once

[winter olive]

its actually difficult to make enough consumer goods to use utopian living standards

[vagrant hinge]

had to for my state of mind

[fair horizon]

I was playing a borg-esque faction the other day

Assimilating all the evildoers (literally any empire weaker than me)

[winter olive]

i kind of don't want to get the new china dlc because it turns china into a clusterfook

[vagrant hinge]

i was playing a xenophobic hive mind

[winter olive]

and i'm sure it will impact my pcs performance

[vagrant hinge]

assimilation was not an option, for security measures of course

[lofty yoke]

Tr

[winter olive]

why do spies suck so hard in paradox games? they are honestly one of my least favorite parts of the game. They take forever to do anything, consume massive amounts of resources, require constant attention, and deliver pitiful results.

[fair horizon]

Because it was a dumb system they decided to add into every game

[winter olive]

gestalt consciousness really limits your diplomacy options, and i'm not really sure why it does

[lofty yoke]

You made me laugh, because I put spy on usa in there hoping he'd bring me inner peace, but he failed miserably.

[vital cove]

uh yes pitiful results and its doubling your factory count and increasing your damage by 50%

[winter olive]

there are probably a lot of people who feel burned by la resistance. its just annoying babysitting. Ugh, and spies getting captured is the freaking worse

[vital cove]

truly

[winter olive]

its only doubling your factory count in hoi4 because you have low ocmpliance which halved it to begin with

[vagrant hinge]

when ur only spy gets captured and u just sit there waiting for him to die so u can have a new one

[lofty yoke]

and that like 200 days

[vital cove]

yes? that's how the game works. that means spies are good

[lofty yoke]

peak

[fair horizon]

If we had like 5 spys by default id be more inclined to use the systemv

[vital cove]

we do have 5 spies by default

[vagrant hinge]

literally, just kill him already bro i give up 😭

[vital cove]

if you can make a faction

[winter olive]

i mean, the ideas are all solid, but the mechanics are just so nerfed, you could just adjust some numbers and spies would be useful

[vital cove]

which you most of the time can

[fair horizon]

We have 3 with a level 5 spy agency and a whole political slot wasted on it

Just for them all to be captured within the time it takes to build up to 20%

[vital cove]

we have 7 without a political slot wasted on it

if you have just a faction

[fair horizon]

Im not the spy master ever

[vagrant hinge]

ive had 5 max

[winter olive]

there should be an option to eliminate spies that are captured. it might not be the most effecient mission, but it would be satisfying

[vital cove]

the issue is being in ai factions

[winter olive]

you have failed me for the last time

[vagrant hinge]

i think the pills do that

[vital cove]

you can take over spy master anyways

[winter olive]

no, i mean specifically to kill a spy to shut him up

[vital cove]

if you're say, in the allies

[vagrant hinge]

you cant kill them but theres a chance they take the pills and die faster

[vital cove]

you put a faction goal ypu can fullfil at the start to get a point

[lofty yoke]

No

[vital cove]

such as expanding bases on some territory you own

meanwhile you upgrade your spy agency to have 3 upgrades

[vagrant hinge]

dont they work like that?

[vital cove]

then pick the faction goal to appoint spy master

and take it

easy

[winter olive]

a spy getting captured should be devestating. if they spill the beans it should hurt

[lofty yoke]

chance 20% idk , but never work

[fair horizon]

So up until the new dlc that hasnt been a thing

[vital cove]

yes? that's how it works

[winter olive]

it should be rarer, but more impactful

[vital cove]

your enemy gets intel

from catching spies

[lofty yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/sheev-palpatine-emperor-chancellor-kill-him-now-gif-14424446

[winter olive]

like i said, most of the spy stuff is fine in theory, its just that the wait times are ridiculous, the requirements are exhaustive, and the results are underwhelming

I wish spies got a huge buff

[lofty yoke]

Yep

[winter olive]

so they could be useful

[vital cove]

its really not underwhelming results

[winter olive]

i disagree

[vital cove]

you just don't realize how big it is

[winter olive]

it demands too much of your focus without any payoff

[lofty yoke]

Imagine the spay stuff was like a facility like the navy and do stuff with it

[vital cove]

you don't realize how big intel bonus is

how big removing enemy planning and entrenchment is

and collabs are obviously big

[winter olive]

nobody does anything but collabs or occasionally flips a nations ideology

[vital cove]

that's because people don't know

lol

[winter olive]

because thats all you have time for

its the best use of the spies and its boring

[vital cove]

infiltrating army is strong

stealing techs can also be pretty strong

[winter olive]

yeah, but you'll never know if it is strong, because you won't have time for it, because spies take forever

[vital cove]

i agree that the missions should be shorter but

its still strong

[winter olive]

when you get decision fatigue, spies are the first to go

they are the least important mechanic because they are the least impactful

[heavy vigil]

god

[lofty yoke]

kill him

[heavy vigil]

vladivostok as russian capital is straight trash

its worse than chita /gen

because like your army wants to use convoys for supply ough

[lofty yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-powerpuff-powerpuff-girls-mad-fire-gif-6830673407618742614

[vagrant hinge]

i agree

also surprise strikes

[winter olive]

i don't want to get rid of spies, i just want them to be more powerful. You need to be able to like, que up missions or something so you don't have to babysit them

[vital cove]

block the sea

[fair horizon]

All the negatives of an island nation and none of the benefits of a mainland one

[lofty yoke]

.

[winter olive]

also, i don't know if these were features in HOI 3, but trapsporting you units by air between friendly airbases should be a thing without needing to paradrop them, and you need to be able to make a second supply source so all supply doesn't run through your capital

[vital cove]

you can tho?

[vagrant hinge]

like breakthrough research labs??

[heavy vigil]

why

[vital cove]

you can do automatically execute and automatically repeat

[heavy vigil]

im doing a navy build anyway

[vital cove]

which is what you do for collabs

you only need to set it up once for 3 collabs

[lofty yoke]

Like missions with the spy

[lofty yoke]

yep that

[vital cove]

idk where are you fighting

are your convoys getting raided

[winter olive]

haafr you can, but itll eat up all your constuction resources, your supply kits, and your stockpiles of guns

[vital cove]

worth it

i mean obviously don't collab Afghanistan but

[winter olive]

coups are useless because they start with too few troops and always just get blown out

[vital cove]

100% worth it for france or the soviets

[pallid stone]

Im bored

[vital cove]

coups are useless since la resistance yes

they were funny before

[lofty yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/konata-lucky-star-thinking-loading-anime-gif-15680289644544200178

[pallid stone]

Has anyone tried yodeeling

[winter olive]

they overcorrected

[vagrant hinge]

you can steal blueprints with the spies which is cool

[winter olive]

the tech buff you get from spies isn't great, and you don't get much of a choice in what you steal

[fair horizon]

There was that one kid in walmart that did

[lofty yoke]

I never tried it what it do

[winter olive]

like getting to bonuses to heavy plane models is just.. ugh

[pallid stone]

Yeah exactly what I was referencing

[winter olive]

two*

[pallid stone]

Whats he doing singing songs like that

[fair horizon]

Research bonuses

[vital cove]

the real reason coups are useless regardless is not because it gets crushed
its because its just another nation that will have cheaper price on taking states because its cores

[vagrant hinge]

gives u a research

[vital cove]

so you'll get less

[lofty yoke]

Hmmmm , no , dont like it

[vital cove]

and its not puppet or anything

[winter olive]

that would be terrifying, somebody starts yodling at the top of their lungs in a walmart. be like a prelude to an active shooter event in our minds

[fair horizon]

They can be really strong if you build for them but imo waste of time

[lofty yoke]

tr

waste of time

[tepid nova]

Maybe Hoi4 should update the difficulty selector to be AI intelligence and then they focus on improving the Ai

[lofty yoke]

Ai not good it all , if im stil alive in 2050 mby

[winter olive]

well, i don't know if its a priority, but i feel like buffing spies by reducing the resources they require, the amount of time operations take, producing better results, and reducing the amount they get captured would be a solid improvement over the current system

and because its mostly just adjusting some numbers, not messing with the UI or such, it would be a lot easier to mod

id be willing to playtest it

[lofty yoke]

if that dlc i wd ply it

[pallid stone]

Whats dlc mean

[lofty yoke]

huh

[winter olive]

downloadable content

[pallid stone]

👌

Guys tag solodude

I wanna bug the shit out of him

@tiny iris

@tiny iris

@tiny iris

@tiny iris

@tiny iris

@tiny iris

@tiny iris

@tiny iris

[heavy vigil]

ai locked in

[heavy vigil]

lets not spam, please

[pallid stone]

Casey dont get me in trouble

[lofty yoke]

Ma🫩

[obsidian sigil]

i wish you could nudge a puppet towards doing a focus

because goddamn

[pallid stone]

We'll see whose really annoying after this solodude

Solodawh

[obsidian sigil]

i want my brazilian puppet

to do united states of south america

[pallid stone]

Solocommander

[obsidian sigil]

so it can core all the useless south american states

BUT IT WONT

IT RATHER WOULD DO AIR PRODUCTION

[pallid stone]

How did you become a mod

[vagrant hinge]

theres a mod that overhauls the spies system

[winter olive]

what does it do?

the mod i mean

[vagrant hinge]

am i able to send steam links?

[winter olive]

i think so

[vagrant hinge]

ill send it in offtopic just in case lol

[fair horizon]

MARIJIN I HATE THIS TAB

[copper drum]

T

[pallid stone]

Guys

I think he might be dead

[lofty yoke]

Rip

[pallid stone]

Im gonna visit his grave everyday

But from the comfort of my own home

Imagine his grave 🥹 in my head 🥹

[lofty yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[pallid stone]

Rip my bestfriend

He was my bestest best friend ever

Who died from caffeine overdose

Okay now im bored

He better not actually be deaf

Dead

[lofty yoke]

Don not drink caffein drink tea 🤭

[pallid stone]

Why is there a man lying on a bed as your pfp

The animation thing when you open your profile is so cool btw

[lofty yoke]

i love kpop

[pallid stone]

I dont

I love

Froyo

[lofty yoke]

Huh

[pallid stone]

Im sad

Cause its not sunday yet

I wanna eat eat eat

Apples and vananas

I wanna eat eat eat

[lofty yoke]

Ate

[pallid stone]

Eated

[fair horizon]

OH FFS i was 5% off this stupid thing

[pallid stone]

Aten

[lofty yoke]

PP pro

[pallid stone]

Support 💔

[heavy vigil]

are you having fun tho

[pallid stone]

Are you a she or a he or a something else

Because me and solodude think your a he even though I think your a she

[fair horizon]

im gonna go play something else

i had it at 100%

i know because i did the math before contiunuing focuses

[heavy vigil]

fair

[fair horizon]

ive said it before and ill say it again, any country with that stupid power struggle garbage is not worth playing

[heavy vigil]

but the civil war is fun...

[fair horizon]

im not even mad about the civil war i could have crushed that

im mad because i lost the focus tree that i was doing

[heavy vigil]

oh yeah

union is lowkey boring

compared to like the other stuff imo

i think i tried some paths

[fair horizon]

yeah but i had plans to conquer syria which kept like half their country

also free lebanon

[heavy vigil]

ohh

if you play israel sometimes they become free and join

based on playing it ages ago

like join the war

same for egypt

[vagrant hinge]

is that a mod¡

?

[fair horizon]

rt56

[vagrant hinge]

ohhh

[fair horizon]

didnt want to play them tbh

[heavy vigil]

fair

[fair horizon]

i liked the whole idea of the union

[heavy vigil]

yeah its wholesome

[fair horizon]

instead i get a whole tree to start in 1940...

might give it another try sometime

[wanton echo]

Freaky hitler

[lofty yoke]

When hitel Discovered that people love Poland

[azure walrus]

left hoi4 on overnight

2 years passed

[mental mantle]

Eva under the table

[woven dragon]

Wha. Just uhh why huh????

[quick hare]

chat is it fun to play the ussr in rt56+expanded with historical ai focuses, you do human_ai from 1936 to 1946 and then play the rest yourself and change the course of history from 1946 to 1956

[woven dragon]

I have been playing KX a lot recently

[mental mantle]

Seems Fun

I think the rail problem is worse though

[grave sonnet]

Based

[lime mist]

Guys at the beginning of my game should I have it paused while I start building stuff and organizing things?

Also if I play historical AI with germany what happens if I dont invade Poland

[quick hare]

i do that bc sometimes im slow at clicking things and then theres the annoying popups

[lime mist]

k

[atomic grove]

how tf am i even supposed to survive this

and yes i core all of these lands that are in the screenshot

[azure walrus]

hmm, the empire of great japan could be greater

lets have one final hyperwar between the sphere and this rump german alliance

[lofty yoke]

He just a baby 🥹

[azure walrus]

yeah

still really pissed that i dont core any of that land

[heavy vigil]

you get more factories non core

[azure walrus]

i guess this doesnt really promise cores

[azure walrus]

but also i have to garrison it

[heavy vigil]

so what

[wide osprey]

uuuuum like dis?

[heavy vigil]

if you want max manpower/minimum garrisons use 50w pure medium tanks, cheapest design possible with mp support

non core is lowkey just better than coring unless you desperately need the manpower, which you dont

also because you have india, china, indonesia

thats like a billion people

[winter olive]

one thing i like about shadow empire is you don't have to mix tanks with infantry

[quick hare]

this mod is so crazy 😭

[azure walrus]

what mod

[quick hare]

the fire rises

[azure walrus]

did you mean to reply to someone else

[winter olive]

uh no, i'm just starting a new topic

[azure walrus]

no not you, i meant Ana

[azure walrus]

whats shadow empire

[winter olive]

i think there are a lot of bots in this channel

its a game modeled after another old strategy game that has been given a sci fi twist

[azure walrus]

ahh i see

[atomic grove]

oh thats what i was planning rn

thanks though

[winter olive]

its modeled after advanced tactics, if you've ever played that

[atomic grove]

they took montgomery though

[winter olive]

anyway, the point is that in hoi4 you can't just run tanks without infantry or they are terrible

[atomic grove]

so i retreated from atlanta to tallahasee

(i abandoned washington dc)

[winter olive]

in most other strategy games you can run tanks as a seperate units without infantry

[grave sonnet]

You playing Atom Waffen you ain't surviving

They are the weakest faction

In the US

[atomic grove]

i know

however

[winter olive]

i mean, i get that combined arms forces exist

[vivid field]

Can dropping a nuke on the capital make a country surrender?

[grave sonnet]

No,Bomb the front line

[cyan prairie]

Sadly no, theres a mod for it tho

[atomic grove]

i wanna see what happens with this focus

im curious

[vivid field]

ok thank u very much @grave sonnet@cyan prairie

[cyan prairie]

What country is that xd

[grave sonnet]

Knowing Atomwaffens ideology they will probably end the game/nuke the world

[atomic grove]

atomwaffen division

[grave sonnet]

Atomwaffen Division

[atomic grove]

in hoi4 tfr

its really hard

by really hard i really mean it

[cyan prairie]

Is this tno?