hoi4-general

[mild shale]

My brother already plays the game and has played in Iraq he performed very well conquering many regions such as Russia, Britain, and Germany. I thought Iraq was a strong and suitable game for me as a beginner

[proud tapir]

oh thats cool, he can help you aswell besides youtube

[woeful knoll]

only play middle east if u hate urself

[proud tapir]

People who are seasoned can make any nation look easy tbh

[mild shale]

He told me about the game actually and he wanted me to try it, and I like it only by seeing it (:

[woeful knoll]

only good countires around there is iran and a little bit of india/raj

[mild shale]

LMFAO

[proud tapir]

i watched a guy do a world conquest with Slovakia

[winged field]

middles east is out of supply attrition speedrun basically but once you learn to deal with that you will be fine

[mild shale]

Isn't Slovakia so powerless in 30s?

[winged field]

nah

:>

[proud tapir]

Yeah, you can play slovakia by releasing it as a puppet as Germany and selecting to play with it. Its not even a selectable nation

[mild shale]

Britain controls most of them and it's clear that getting rid of them will be difficult

[shell turret]

is that poland in romania

[winged field]

yeah that just happens

[mild shale]

Coooll bro🔥

[proud tapir]

Romania is actually pretty fun, as you have a focus that lets you switch sides in the war

[shell turret]

i wonder what happened

[winged field]

peace conference at its finest

[shell turret]

aah this makes more sense now

[winged field]

allies still fighting ussr me just chilling

[barren coyote]

Playing WW1 Germany, I think I have enough guns to serve the entire war...

[mild shale]

I really have to buy a psu asap to build my empire, I'm so excited for it

[proud tapir]

im gonna dm you some nice youtube guides that will help you

if thats ok

[mild shale]

It would really help me bro

[winged field]

unironically you can eat those supplies in like few months

live laugh rifle deficit

[barren coyote]

True

I also made a whole bunch of factories to

[winged field]

cheers

[sly venture]

just realised we dont even have an army

how am i supposed to invade the soveits

[proud tapir]

how did you

nevermind

[languid saffron]

Everyone against everyone

[proud tapir]

I guess its time to spam train 18 width infantry?

[sly venture]

this is what am using

[hard wedge]

hii

[winged field]

you could replace logistics with hospitals since its not eq demanding div.

[winged field]

[sly venture]

too expensive

[winged field]

valid

[umbral vessel]

I'm completely new to HOI4- what are some easy countries to start off as?

To just learn the game really

[sly venture]

the airforce can not be that good

[sly venture]

germany

or hungary

[winged field]

hungary

[umbral vessel]

Thank you, I'll give Hungary a shot then

[winged field]

u start small and can get a lot bigger

[umbral vessel]

Is there a wiki or overview that I could look at for the country to look at what it excells at?

[winged field]

I mean there is wiki but you can also read what each focus gives ya and base your strategy around that

[proud tapir]

Like i said earlier, for general guides
Bittersteel is an amazing youtuber
The wiki isnt really there to teach you the game

[winged field]

for me wiki is just kinda messy

[umbral vessel]

Funny you mention that guy haha

[proud tapir]

In general, youtube is your best friend for learning hoi4

I also like general gameplay videos from popular hoi4 youtubers to just see how they play the game

[umbral vessel]

Alright, appreciate it

[proud tapir]

alongside actual guides of course

[proud tapir]

goated video

goated youtuber

🔥 🙏

[umbral vessel]

I watched the HOI4 beginner's guide they linked in-game and now I'm onto this video

I bought the game in like 2020 and forgot about it and played Stellaris instead

[proud tapir]

whatever you do, dont play the INGAME tutorial. Its a useless mess

as for a good begginer nation? Germany def

[sly venture]

easyyy

[proud tapir]

Romania is a niche but a fun one

and you get to flip sides trough your last major focus

[umbral vessel]

👀

I'll give it a go after I finish this video

[proud tapir]

so if say Soviets blasted Germany and they are at your doorstep

You can have the king coup the country and join the allies/soviets

[umbral vessel]

Does terrain matter in land battles in this game?

[proud tapir]

not to mention trough cearful saving up of political power you can eat almost all of Yugoslavia for free

[proud tapir]

yes

very

And supply too

Supply is king

[umbral vessel]

Assuming by railroads mostly?

[proud tapir]

For example, a plains tile will be great for tanks. They can quickly and effectively push

But if you use them on say a mountain tile?

Very diffirent

many penalties

Works the same on the defensive side
Easier to defend a mountain than a plains tile

[proud tapir]

yeah

[umbral vessel]

So the composition of your divisions may vary for different tiles you fight in for maximum effectiveness

[languid saffron]

this is chaos

[proud tapir]

yeah

[umbral vessel]

I think ur at war with everyone

[proud tapir]

Diffirent divisions can have diffirent terrain modifiers

[umbral vessel]

Ah okayokay

[proud tapir]

And also rivers play a big part to

[umbral vessel]

I'll probably get extremely addicted to this game

[proud tapir]

attacking against a river is also harder than say without a river

and this can stack, mountain tile BEHIND a river?

[proud tapir]

Most likely

You play stellaris?

[umbral vessel]

Yeah I played it a lot

[proud tapir]

nice it looks fun

[sly venture]

i forgot the fact that i was not supposed to bomb the british navy

[fair horizon]

Dw destroyers are cheap

[fair horizon]

Very true, doesnt even teach navy

[umbral vessel]

It is, especially with DLC. It's a paradox game as well so I can find some similarities in the UI, but that was about it 😭

[heavy vigil]

more expensive than a submarine heheheh

[proud tapir]

i love subs

Watch das boot guys

Its free to watch with subtitles on youtube

Best submarine movie ever

like ever

[heavy vigil]

they suck for winning tho

[fair horizon]

Submaries are meh tho

And destroyers are so versatile

[proud tapir]

but they have aura tho

[umbral vessel]

Would subs be good to put out for raiding convoys?

[fair horizon]

Wrong, its down periscope

[heavy vigil]

i need to get better at the video game

[proud tapir]

sea wolves hunting convoys raaaaagh

🔥

[fair horizon]

Casey i was trying to figure out naval chance to hit earler today instead of sleeping (i still havent slept)

[proud tapir]

i played a lot of uboat, cant wait for the type 9 dlc

[heavy vigil]

why not talk to the navy guy

[steel zephyr]

from almost capitulating to czechia to this... may we win soon againts commies

[heavy vigil]

i was confused about navy once and then i dmed delnar ersike and he yaps

[proud tapir]

is that

[fair horizon]

I literally cannot figure out the math, everything said around like 20-40% chance to hit off of base stats

[proud tapir]

is that eva braun

[steel zephyr]

ye, hitler got killed in an event

[heavy vigil]

talk to the guy who wrote the wiki?

[fair horizon]

Like i think one of the numbers just isnt supposed to be there

[heavy vigil]

simple solution

[languid saffron]

No

I am denmark

but lowk france cooked

[fair horizon]

Yeah i was doing the wiki calculation with the adjusted stats from the last patch

[heavy vigil]

did they change calc? (short for calculations)

[fair horizon]

Nah they just changed a few numbers around

[proud tapir]

its calculator 😢

[fair horizon]

Heavy guns are easier to hit with

[heavy vigil]

banned

[fair horizon]

70 stat instead of 80

[proud tapir]

you wont force me to view it otherwise

i will never submit

(CALC)ULATOR

[fair horizon]

Casey's just using slang guys

[sly venture]

this or this for the soveits?

[languid saffron]

longest civil war in hoi4 ahh

[proud tapir]

they should use calc (short for calculator) in their calculations

[heavy vigil]

if i had no other options i would use the left

[fair horizon]

yeah they changed some stats and stuff

[languid saffron]

They left france with algeria

and liberated all of africa

[sly venture]

that is what i always use i was just thinking about doing smt diffrent

[heavy vigil]

i wouldnt use either, tbh

[proud tapir]

the two options in question:

You know, i recommend everyone tries Infantry germany once in their life

its so fun

to battleplan the soviets

and cap them with just infantry

[sly venture]

it works and if it works am using it

[proud tapir]

fair enough

we must remember its singleplayer, so everything works

only fun matters

not meta

[sly venture]

ive done 3 world conquest as germany and always do them with that template

[languid saffron]

holy friendly fire

jk the game bugged

not in the faction

[fair horizon]

65 support equipment 🥀

That thing is gonna be hemmoraging more support equipment than guns at that rate

[heavy vigil]

im going to make an image so people conflate stats better but i cant be asked to set my game to english for it

so theyll just have to learn to read

[fair horizon]

Brasilian

i just read it and extrapolate

[sly venture]

WHO IS THIS

[fair horizon]

what even forms that?

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kiwi-fruit-3

[fair horizon]

Fascist samoa or something?

[quartz valley]

what do the dlc add ?

nothing ?

[fair horizon]

Ship models

[winged field]

game mechanics, focus trees etc.

[fair horizon]

Not for the faint of heart mind you

[quartz valley]

focus tree ?

[winged field]

like battle for bosporus

or was he saying specific dlc?

[obsidian sigil]

Unhistorical be like

Its fascist new zealand

the kiwis

[fair horizon]

No clue tbh but they did just release warships of the pacific

[quartz valley]

the new, today

[fair horizon]

Literally just ship models

[sly venture]

WE ARE SOMEHOW OVERRUNING THE SOVEITS ON EVERY FRONT

[steel zephyr]

soviet slop

[winged field]

thats just bums 😭

[fair horizon]

Inb4 equipment deficet

[fair horizon]

Take that back

[obsidian sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/i-sleep-meme-sleep-meme-go-sleep-sleepi-ng-gif-26260737

[quartz valley]

hopefully only 6$ for that if it was 20/30 i would kms

[winged field]

shoutout to that one navy main who is gonna buy it

[obsidian sigil]

Like 5

soooo eh

[fair horizon]

Thanks i appreciate it

[quartz valley]

navy is pretty fun tbh

[fair horizon]

the most important part about it is that it adds basically every single ship design that australia used during ww2

[obsidian sigil]

How i play navy
Spam subs
Spam light cruisers
Make 1-5 super crazy good ships for pride of the fleet and larp

[fair horizon]

make carrier, make carrier screen, make destroyers because carriers are just that good rn

[obsidian sigil]

I never make destroyers tbh

[quartz valley]

i use so much escort carrier

[obsidian sigil]

light cruiser

screen is screen

[fair horizon]

ive started doing destroyers a lot more

dont even need light cruisers to take care of screens anymore

carriers do all the work

[obsidian sigil]

Full send light cruisers

[obsidian sigil]

Question

I usually outfit my carriers

[quartz valley]

light / heavy cruiser, escort carrier and some battleship and i destroy every navy in a 1vs2 fight

[obsidian sigil]

With bomber fighters

As in a fighter with a torpedo also attached

Will those fighters

use their torpedo as a torpedo bomber ever

[fair horizon]

i mean they have the ability to i dont see why not

[obsidian sigil]

Im just afraid they all classified as fighters and will only do fighter things

[fair horizon]

do it backwards then

torpedo first gun second

first slot is what makes a plane something

[obsidian sigil]

Then flipside problem lol

[quartz valley]

i do torpedo bomber and fighter i don't trust how they will work in a fight

[fair horizon]

if you're not playing mp its a waste of ic

like the ai will never contest you on naval bombers

[heavy vigil]

everything that relates to something else colour coded

[wanton whale]

~<

[fair horizon]

casey what does HP mean

[heavy vigil]

health power

[obsidian sigil]

I play with better ai, better ai designs, better ai lot of shit mods

[fair horizon]

ty for translation

[wanton whale]

Basically - if the unit is out of org - it uses its HP - if its out of HP it dies

[fair horizon]

then id make dedicated fighters for your carriers

[heavy vigil]

no

[wanton whale]

Thats how I got taught

[heavy vigil]

thats not how it works

[obsidian sigil]

Yeah with my modset

britain is SCARY

[heavy vigil]

look at the image

hp is different colour

[obsidian sigil]

600 naval bombers

In sea tiles

[heavy vigil]

it is related to cost, losses taken

[wanton whale]

Ahhh

got it

[heavy vigil]

not to org

[quartz valley]

is unit with very much org powerfull ?

[fair horizon]

it means it fights longer

usually

[heavy vigil]

org is related to width because its how much org fits in that width

if you use larger divs you sacrifice org for more hp and less losses

so you sacrifice the ability to in theory draw battles out longer

which isnt too relevant in singleplayer

you would rather not get crit (attack exceeds defense/break)

[fair horizon]

I mean i wouldnt even bother still. Ship aa usually does more damage

To planes

[obsidian sigil]

I thought it was bigger division-> more org

At least more infantry more org

[woven gate]

depends on what batallion

[obsidian sigil]

Yeah because i try making max org marines

[winged field]

@fair horizonbtw I was wondering if I spam enough aa BB's do I still need air supremacy?

[sly venture]

is this a good k/d ratio

[fair horizon]

I hate BBs because they're worthless

[obsidian sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749998197786542214/1482912374506655765/image.png?ex=69baa785&is=69b95605&hm=cb9fe44877d386e0da838e7da3638cad6f3f4ef18f42a3df6b9d82428b780ef9&
hehe

some tech from a mod

But yeah

[quartz valley]

why belgium surrend ?

[quartz valley]

what's the mod ?

[heavy vigil]

target practice

[obsidian sigil]

Ett60

[fair horizon]

Heavy attack doesnt apply well so i personally only use them as floating aa, you wont have to worry about planes but they're crap at actually killing stuff

Which is dumb because they're amazing at shooting smaller ships irl

[obsidian sigil]

with my ai improvement mods my super heavys are just super aa batteries

[young lake]

"Rate my stockpile!!"

[obsidian sigil]

Cause countries

Like germany and britain

will spam hundreds of nav bombers

[quartz valley]

i ve never seen a bigger nav bombers than uk

[heavy vigil]

novus vexillum or road to 56 or mildawn chat what should i play

[young lake]

Novus

[obsidian sigil]

I learned my lesson after larping as horthy hungary and making a super ac just for britain to spam 2k naval bombers against it

[winged field]

Ik I would spam aa on it, im just wondering if its enough

I hate planes

I hate tanls too tho

[obsidian sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/bismarck-azur-lane-iron-lood-gif-1565736192170764999

[winged field]

basically I hate everything that is not square into one template and production

[heavy vigil]

play vicky 3

[quartz valley]

never had problem with that but sometime i just can't see the manche

fr

[winged field]

if my pc could run it 😭

[obsidian sigil]

I use ai improvement mods so theyre more competent

[heavy vigil]

my pc is good and it takes like a solid 10 minutes to launch the game lol

[winged field]

so its all paradox games

lovely

[quartz valley]

got any mods more ?

[heavy vigil]

the mod is like

change your settings to ENGLISH or have really annoying red text all game

sucks

bad mod

[obsidian sigil]

What u need

[heavy vigil]

hoi4 launches like twice as fast

[obsidian sigil]

I have like 50

Although 20 are cosmetics

[winged field]

on a good day

[quartz valley]

well everything with tech

[winged field]

I literally have to do a ritual before launching hoi 4

[obsidian sigil]

New horizons 1990

Road to 56

[quartz valley]

everytime i find something with tech it is with whole map, tech tree and all

[heavy vigil]

gonna play mildawn just because i dont wanna change my game settings

their localization also sucks but its like above average

for mods

[quartz valley]

rise of nation is good

[obsidian sigil]

Ett only changes tech tree special projects and some doctrines

[winged field]

rise of nations mentioned 🔥

[ripe slate]

road to 56 mentioned 🔥

[quartz valley]

ofc, spammed so much when the reichstag fire event didn't work

[heavy vigil]

does it add releasables

[winged field]

you either choose rise of nation or age of empire no in between

[heavy vigil]

this is the first time in ages im considering playign road

[ripe slate]

Yes

[young lake]

Road to 56 is pretty good

[umbral vessel]

How complicated is Naval in this game?

[young lake]

I just spam subs 😭

[ripe slate]

Its mostly just spamming the meta boat type

[quartz valley]

roblox rise of nation, hoi4 rise of nation, war selection

[winged field]

its not

SHBB + destroyers or carriers + destroyers

[quartz valley]

very easy

[obsidian sigil]

Shbb is for larp buddy

[quartz valley]

what's SHBB

[heavy vigil]

where can i see the list

[obsidian sigil]

Super heavy battleship

[ripe slate]

nowhere

[winged field]

Larp or not its supreme

[steel zephyr]

italians so incompetant that i had to accidently encircle the soviets with infantry...

[quartz valley]

oh this slop

[umbral vessel]

So if for example I had a CV focused fleet, would that dominate easily?

[obsidian sigil]

Ai is INEPT at navy rn

so yes

[quartz valley]

light / heavy cruiser with escort carrier and you can easly dominate

[winged field]

yes, just watch out for overstacking

[obsidian sigil]

You can put out shitters and will get dominance

[obsidian sigil]

500 carriers

[winged field]

optimal

[umbral vessel]

Do CL and CA both fight in the screen? Or would a CA be with BBs

[heavy vigil]

:(

[obsidian sigil]

Usa build

[obsidian sigil]

Uuhh light cruisers are screen

[umbral vessel]

And CA?

[obsidian sigil]

Also meta

What’s ca again

[umbral vessel]

Heavy cruisers

[obsidian sigil]

They’re ok

Not ic optimal tho

[quartz valley]

CA for heavy cruiser not HC ?

[umbral vessel]

No, CA

In USN at least

[heavy vigil]

cruiser armored

[obsidian sigil]

Then again its more ic optimal to forget carriers exist as well

[umbral vessel]

And is there a differentiation in this game for a CV or like a CVE or does that not matter

[obsidian sigil]

Uuuhhhh cve is escorted right?

escort

[ripe slate]

ye

[umbral vessel]

Escort Carrier yes

[obsidian sigil]

it’s a special project

Not worth

Just make destroyers or light cruisers with seaplanes sonar and depth charges

[snow rain]

I don't get why they made it a special project

could have been an easily accessible research card

[winged field]

is this ic optimal?

[steel zephyr]

they're just asking for it

[quartz valley]

fr ? i always use them cheap and all

[snow rain]

you're telling me it ttakes almost a year with elite scientists in an expensive facility to create a smaller carrier ?

[quartz valley]

yeah

[sly venture]

why cant i do tis

[quartz valley]

hoi4 logic

[obsidian sigil]

Make it partially sink

Slap a torpedo

And yes

[winged field]

kamikaze boats on top

[obsidian sigil]

Ig midget submarine lol

[quartz valley]

iran navy actually :

[obsidian sigil]

Denmark

Annex it

[obsidian sigil]

actually******^^^^^^

make it fly

[snow rain]

one of the state you own (meaning one you started with or annexed during a peace conference) is occupied by the enemy

[quartz valley]

heavy navy or light navy ?

[pliant ginkgo]

Is it perhaps… a New WORLD Order…?

[obsidian sigil]

Oh wait i mixed it with autarky

[pliant ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/new-world-order-klaus-schwab-world-economic-forum-parody-r-u-ready-4-ze-new-world-order-gif-10007432617932751756

[obsidian sigil]

Nvm

[restive sable]

one more austria game in kx before the rework..

[obsidian sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1206045887093149768/1246965868743622716/attachment.gif

[restive sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/945898196079616033/1281798851480784926/caption.gif

wonderful gif, thank you

[quartz valley]

most funny thing i ve seen this month

[obsidian sigil]

I have more

[quartz valley]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-cia-janitor-OYcUqKyb6BF53hrBWp

[obsidian sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1188336658823790602/1215402548249362452/attachment-2-1-1.gif

[pliant ginkgo]

5 billion rockets? Damn, you must prepare for an angrier world with how much destruction you could cause with those

[obsidian sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265373037746720769/1265378189631426612/rasicm.JK.gif

[quartz valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/945898196079616033/1281798851480784926/caption.gif

[winged field]

the irony

[obsidian sigil]

Id vote for it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440880262404899029/1476420987162722587/c3c32b704e0745dd9fcd0d1f293c3b5atplv-jj85edgx6n-image-origin.gif

[quartz valley]

i was going to send a gif but saw the n word and remember it's not a friend group

[obsidian sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021458324249653250/1406234391163961496/Screenshot_20250815_214024_Instagram.gif

[winged field]

average polish from warsawa

[sly venture]

sneaky attack

[quartz valley]

racism is good

[lost wing]

am trying to do multiplayer but it doesn't work

host has the game normal and other players stuck on start time

[obsidian sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267756749314855063/1278803713028260033/turk-1-1.gif

We might get smited by mods lol

https://tenor.com/view/makima-is-listening-palantir-chainsaw-gif-8858623813799380375

[quartz valley]

never again say i m turk. i am FRENCH

https://giphy.com/gifs/happy-sunglasses-glasses-9oT5Fe2VJsLPmC3GIF

[obsidian sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/ww2-occupiedparis-gif-27700203

[quartz valley]

https://giphy.com/gifs/demons-francais-franceallemagne-VaYzZzNqZAxw9DaOfN

[obsidian sigil]

The dragon does not concern itself with defending

🏳️

[quartz valley]

https://giphy.com/gifs/oldschoolacademy-napoleon-bonaparte-gM1UfpqqRHm455UKt5

[quartz valley]

https://giphy.com/gifs/napoleon-53f1z8Q52NlaOW3u2X

[fair horizon]

they arent owned by reichkomkisariots are they?

[winged field]

last time i did that I had to capitulate all allies

[woeful knoll]

check if u own south denmark

[quartz valley]

last time i needed to bully my ally to give land

[woeful knoll]

China war as japan is the hardest war in the game

[quartz valley]

?????

[woeful knoll]

Yeah im not afraid to say it

[heavy vigil]

its not

its like practice for war

[sly venture]

nice defense bro

[heavy vigil]

you gotta beat your enemy in time

[woeful knoll]

They have infinete teleporting units with the ai cheats

and its meant to be one sided

[heavy vigil]

thats not what happens

the ai doesnt cheat in any way, sure they experience bugs more often but thats just not what they do

[woeful knoll]

Ai doesnt have supply

and increased movement speed

[heavy vigil]

what happens is that your units dont crit the enemy, stall and take attrition from poor supply and from mountains/forces attrition tiles

and then you lose

[heavy vigil]

they do lol

[quartz valley]

always asked myself how ai can still fight with nothing, no gun, tank and all but when it's me my unit loose / despawn

[heavy vigil]

and like every war in this game you have to control the supply to win

if your enemy has supply but you dont, then thats bad

[woeful knoll]

because they have special game rules

along with other things like literally perfect micro

[heavy vigil]

they dont lmao

[woeful knoll]

explain why my divison straves but 10 of theres has no attrition

[heavy vigil]

lets not post modern politicians #server-rules

[quartz valley]

ah

[heavy vigil]

because their units are small and take little supply

and also they control the supply hubs in the region

[woeful knoll]

yk what im gonna try again

[heavy vigil]

and have local victory point supply which isnt a ton but its enough sometimes

[quartz valley]

https://giphy.com/gifs/son-jjk-oEPyO83kEnoyfwmewB

is it better ?

[steel zephyr]

geeked

still cant believe that i almost capped to czechoslovakia early

no tank divs

[quartz valley]

eh

[sly venture]

Is this world conquest material

[quartz valley]

wich one ?

[opaque zinc]

And they justified it by going well they had to get more land

[opaque zinc]

Poland

They killed many poles

[quartz valley]

didn't know

[sly venture]

?

[opaque zinc]

Yeah during like Soviet occupation

They also said Hungary deserved the harsh conditions the soviets gave them

[restive sable]

they've done like dozens

[opaque zinc]

And that they shouldn’t have had an uprising

[steel zephyr]

expected the soviets to collapse a lot sooner, it is just one or two collabs though

[violet veldt]

German mindset

"Socialist" acting like germany

Both times

[opaque zinc]

For more explanation he was 13

[violet veldt]

Theyre just petty nationalists not commies tbh

[opaque zinc]

And that’s the most 13 year old thing to say ever

Soviet= they can do no wrong

[violet veldt]

They aint red

Soviets were just social democrats with a love for violence

[opaque zinc]

Yeah

[upbeat burrow]

What's a good jungle template for Asia-pacific?

[wanton whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1330259158347415713/1339293725771432016/attachment-2.gif

[wanton whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124576882348797986/1364680104122384434/togif.gif

[leaden mulch]

no

[quartz valley]

goated game choice and goated bio

[wanton whale]

thank you thank you

I could say the same

[woeful knoll]

what does the supply icon on ships mean

[quartz valley]

thx thx

[wanton whale]

It needs supply

[quartz valley]

finally heli 13.0

[tulip thorn]

The fleet isnt getting full supply

[wanton whale]

The dockyards dont give it enough

[woeful knoll]

how do i give it supply its a max naval base

[tulip thorn]

More ports around it I guess

[quartz valley]

it's like feeding big mom with salad

[sly venture]

do I attack the USA rn or wait

[woeful knoll]

what are you waiting for

every second usa gets stronger

[quartz valley]

wait a little

[wanton whale]

Smaller port = more supply trust

[quartz valley]

get a good economy, good stock and al

[tulip thorn]

Just invade the moment you have all your army ready and attack

The more time you waste the stronger the us will get

And they will just be very annoying

[quartz valley]

HOLY

[sly venture]

if I invade them will it be possible to do a world conquest

[wanton whale]

I made the Japan player rage quit ^w^

(he was the host)

[quartz valley]

wait wtf

[wanton whale]

I had 4 Super heavy battleships

He had 2

and didnt even refurbish them

[restive sable]

that is a beauty

[fickle thicket]

set those reserves up on the stalin line

[leaden mulch]

why is bros reserves spaced out😭

[hazy kernel]

Just imagine

defense in depth

[fickle thicket]

paradrop precautions ig

[leaden mulch]

is this against the ai?

[hazy kernel]

Yes

[leaden mulch]

cuz if it is then ai doesn't do paradropping

[fickle thicket]

with 1 unit per tile

[hazy kernel]

Its defense

kinda

[fickle thicket]

no its ass

[hazy kernel]

Its so based

E-Sportssss!!!!

[fickle thicket]

ew dankus lover

[hazy kernel]

Bokoen1 :3

[fickle thicket]

peak

[leaden mulch]

nah

segl

[fickle thicket]

bo and isp are peak

[leaden mulch]

this guy is am peaksten

[leaden mulch]

those who waste their pp

[amber matrix]

Didnt even waste it btw

[hazy kernel]

Okay I have 326 units on that area

its about 2 units a tile

[fathom shard]

wyd turn commiie

[woeful knoll]

china war is impossible

they literally teleport

[fathom shard]

as japan?

[woeful knoll]

yes

[fathom shard]

you can cap china in early 1937

[fickle thicket]

just on the stalin like i recommend at minimum 8 per tile with forts for a good hold imo

[fathom shard]

without naval invasions

[woeful knoll]

How

i dont have enuf units to cover the front with 6 army full group bro

[fathom shard]

just try out feedback gamings guide (i know this dude is annoying but that video isn't bad)

[hazy kernel]

Stalin line is cringe

Fighting the germans at every point is based

[fathom shard]

he caps them in june i think but yo ucan def do it in april

[woeful knoll]

ok

[hazy kernel]

The thumbnail is so true

[fathom shard]

wait hold on

[woeful knoll]

wrong vid bro

but perks is underrated

[fathom shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFvmrKJHq3M&t=640s

this one

[leaden mulch]

forts are unneeded

[fickle thicket]

in my experiences lvl 2 forts on plains can hold

[leaden mulch]

in my experience no forts can hold

[woeful knoll]

reinforce meme 💀

[fickle thicket]

excluding that

[leaden mulch]

add signal companies

[woeful knoll]

what does that do

does signal make u not reinforce memed

[leaden mulch]

more reinforce rate

[leaden mulch]

yes

[woeful knoll]

Reinforce rate is how fast strength replenishes

like reinforced ur manpower

not that

[leaden mulch]

no

wrong

incorrect definition of reinforce rate

reinforce rate is how fast your divisions get back into battle

[amber matrix]

confederacy

[leaden mulch]

initiative modifies reinforce rate

[woeful knoll]

"feedback gaming doesnt viewbot"

[fathom shard]

LOL ive noticed this too

for once though his video isn't bad

[ripe slate]

the low comment count?

[leaden mulch]

check how much comments are liked

[woeful knoll]

300 on top comment

[leaden mulch]

people may just not have anything to say

[leaden mulch]

oof

[woeful knoll]

and 100 on the other 2 then everything else no likes

[woeful knoll]

Comment count and likes like this on every video

check hansen video on it

feedback gaming tried to sue him lol

[fathom shard]

legit graph

[hazy kernel]

Im actually kind of throwing

didnt make AA or enough planes as soviets

[fickle thicket]

do u have enough tanks?

[hazy kernel]

21 med tank divs

[fickle thicket]

year?

[hazy kernel]

The Germans outnumber my tanks I think

[hazy kernel]

42

[fickle thicket]

scale back massively on tanks and go up on planes

[dusky burrow]

oof rough

[hazy kernel]

I also cant pierce their tanks half the time because theyre cringe and went heavy tanks

and I didnt foreplan to get AT guns

[umbral vessel]

I am still learning on how to play the game. I started as hungary just now and I have -4 steel. Is Trade the best way to set that up for now?

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-blunts-shooting-gun-firing-gun-gif-12832312566919546837

[tulip thorn]

Love when the ai just spams ships like no other

Spam anything but screens

[digital aurora]

I love it when they have so many capital ships but like 3 cruisers and 7 destroyers

[tulip thorn]

fr

The american sortie efficiency much be god awful

[digital aurora]

I wish we could “mothball” ships, so you can basically reduce their MP requirement but to reactivate them you need to kind of refit them

It would also mean the AI can spam ships into mothballing

[tulip thorn]

When I heard they were "reworking" naval mechanics

I thought it would be more than just changing how naval supremacy works

The ai doesnt even really use the navies they have

[digital aurora]

Yeah, like let me spam destroyers into a mothball fleet that has less calculations per ship

[tulip thorn]

Without mods I can hardly get the uk, us or japan to engage their giant fleets with me

[digital aurora]

As the Soviets I just used tons of torpedo bombers and maratime bombers to basically destory japans fleet from Vladivostok

[sudden grotto]

1M 💀

[tulip thorn]

Im someone who loves looking at huge naval engagements in hoi4

[tulip thorn]

They need more

[sudden grotto]

they got more in the navy than army at this point

[tulip thorn]

Maybe

[sudden grotto]

ok wtf

[tulip thorn]

Its 1948 lol

With several mods to make the ai still bad but slightly less bad

Like a mod that makes the ai produce more ships and actually use the fleets they have

Thats why they have so many

[sudden grotto]

"what if AI had a make division buff"

[tulip thorn]

Sorta

They only have so many because of another mod I have that tries to replicate real life naval production during ww2

The ai doesnt have anything I dont

[steel zephyr]

port farming lwk tuff

[dusky burrow]

czechoslovak forts be like

[tulip thorn]

lol

[digital aurora]

Same, I just forgot to train my fleet so my super heavy battleships would have been reef’s by day 2

[tulip thorn]

Hell denmark made carriers lol

[steel zephyr]

bombed to bits and still sending 100k on 100k to die in dunkirk

[digital aurora]

Just one more push, one more push!!!

[tulip thorn]

One more game, one more game

[digital aurora]

Just one more new start, this time I’ll hold the dniper!!!

[sudden grotto]

doiong it just for the love of the game ig

[rapid furnace]

to the people who have france expanded how do you win the eletions

[hard wedge]

bruh.

average fehlinger tweet

[fair horizon]

How?

[umbral vessel]

Did I mess this up

[azure walrus]

what are you trying to do

[fair horizon]

Depends what you wanna do

[umbral vessel]

I am playing for the first time and wanted to remove the "Disarmed Nation" and move it to the next one, but it said that Treaty of Trianon was preventing it. Looked it up, saw that with a path to it, but can't seem to progress further into that cus I can't select "Economic Prevention" anymore and go down that line

[azure walrus]

theres a separate tree that removes the treaty of trianon and lets you move up conscription

something called the bled conference iirc

[umbral vessel]

This one?

[tulip thorn]

yes

[ember vine]

Czechoslovakia deserves brutal oppression for inviting my enemy in their stupid entente

Idc if it's not strategic

I hate them for this

[hazy kernel]

Ooorah!

[hard wedge]

my troops are so powerful they one shot every troop and js have only 93 casualties

[winter tapir]

guys

wich type of bundle do i buy?

im buyin hoi4 tmrrw

wich one do you guys recommend?

[leaden mulch]

No step back and By blood alone are the only dlcs i could truly recommend

[winter tapir]

i meant in steam

look at my ss

[winter tapir]

.

😭

idk what to call them

[leaden mulch]

yeah

buy them seperately if they are not bundled

oh

[winter tapir]

im soo confused

[leaden mulch]

and arms against tyranny

[winter tapir]

??

js pick wich one

[fickle thicket]

historical btw

[woeful knoll]

Dont buy a bundle

buy base game and the subscriptain pass for 5 bucks

[winter tapir]

soo the 57 dollars one?

[woeful knoll]

if you like it start getting dlcs if u dont you saved all ur money

[woeful knoll]

no, base game and subscription

[winter tapir]

my friend did promise to give me some

can u say wich one

Buy Hearts of Iron IV

Buy Hearts of Iron IV: General Edition

Subscribe to Hearts of Iron IV

Buy Hearts of Iron IV: Ultimate Bundle

Buy Hearts of Iron IV: Big Nations Bundle

im hella confused

[fickle thicket]

btw if u plan to keep the game for more than like a year aint worth it to get the subscription

[woeful knoll]

none of them are good

get the subscription

if you cant

[winter tapir]

i want to keep the game i dont want subscription bro

i already watched to many vids

i like the game

[fickle thicket]

then cough up like 80 bucks for all the dlcs atm

[woeful knoll]

watching vids doesnt mean u like it

[winter tapir]

my friend told me he will give me some dlcs

sooo...?

[woeful knoll]

Get bba, no step back, and gotterdamerung

[winter tapir]

i dont or not

[woeful knoll]

None of the bundles are good

[winter tapir]

yk what

i will js buy the normal type

57 dollars

and i will get the dlcs

from my friend

[woeful knoll]

Good luck

[winter tapir]

wait bad idea?

broo

ur making me regret now

wth

[woeful knoll]

No not bad way

good luck good way

have fun playing the game

[fickle thicket]

his money his rules

[sudden grotto]

aint much but its honest work

[fickle thicket]

average spain

[sudden grotto]

facts

got it in early 39 but meh, if estonia wasnt guaranteed i would have liked a baltic puppet

[fickle thicket]

balkans look juicy

[obsidian sigil]

sometimes

i hate

larping

like

i also fuccing hate geologists rn

[winter tapir]

yo guys

[obsidian sigil]

i usually name tanks after mountain ranges

but

WHY ARE

MOUNTAIN RANGES SO COMPLICATED

[winter tapir]

can i add no step back in the "Buy Hearts of Iron IV: General Edition"

[obsidian sigil]

BE CONSISTENT WHY ARE THERE 50000 UNCLEAR SUBDIVISIONS

[winter tapir]

like can i remove "battle for bosphorus" ,and add no step back?

[obsidian sigil]

i swear geologists are drunk

[winter tapir]

is that possible

?

[obsidian sigil]

likely no without buying stuff seperately

[hard wedge]

walter white? HEISENBERG?

[obsidian sigil]

if you are buying a pack that has stuff included, you get that pack

you can turn off dlcs that you buy/get in a pack

but additional ones you need to get seperately

[winter tapir]

soo i can buy general game

and buy the packs seperetly?

[obsidian sigil]

yes, but thats very expensive

[winter tapir]

dang...

[obsidian sigil]

you can do 3 things if spending 200-300 dollars isnt your thing

[winter tapir]

can i js get dlcs?

[winter tapir]

yea i wanna buy the 69 or the 57

but unsure

[obsidian sigil]

1. subscription, like 10 dollar smthn a month
2. mods, road to 56 gives a bunch of focuses, but some features like special projects wont be in the game
3. i am legally not allowed to say this, but aaaaaarrrrr buccaneers

[winter tapir]

yeah

my friend said he has mods

that he can give

i dont mind downloading mods tbh

[obsidian sigil]

honestly.....

i mean

how do i put this

la resistance is a very basic dlc

but basic to the point of essential

[winter tapir]

im gonna sound stupid if i said

but chatgpt recommended it

and

recommended

[obsidian sigil]

but bosphorus is bad

[winter tapir]

no step back

yeah

chatgpt told me that

[obsidian sigil]

gottedamerung is a good dlc

[winter tapir]

can i js get a mod on it ?

like add a mod on the hoi4?

for no step back

[obsidian sigil]

thing with no step back, la resistance, and gottedamerung, is that they add completely new features

the way paradox coded things

is that mods can only edit preexisting features

no step back adds supply stuff

[winter tapir]

soo not worth it

?

[obsidian sigil]

la resistance agency

and gottedamerung special projects

[winter tapir]

soo not worth getting mods

?

[obsidian sigil]

mods adds tons of stuff to generic features

mainly focus trees

which is why road to 56 is so popular

[winter tapir]

idm that

ok

so mods its!

im a buy the 69

Buy Hearts of Iron IV: General Edition

then get some mods/ dlcs from my friends

[obsidian sigil]

but yeah no step back im pretty sure adds the tank designer

[winter tapir]

thats what he told me he will

[winter tapir]

is it important?

[obsidian sigil]

aaaaaaaaaaa

yes, also yes, but no, and maybe no

[winter tapir]

if unsure

then idm

on not having it

[obsidian sigil]

if you are playing big countries and wanna minmax, very much yes

players will fight to the death over the best tank design

[winter tapir]

i want to play big countries

[obsidian sigil]

its like soemthing players will treasure and boast about

[winter tapir]

idc how the tank looks

tbh

[obsidian sigil]

then yeah

get no step back

[winter tapir]

i js wanna have fun on the game

[winter tapir]

soo no mods?

[obsidian sigil]

mods are free

get as many as you want

[winter tapir]

but didnt u say no step back says it give designs

[winter tapir]

OK

u couldvbe said that

at the first place

[obsidian sigil]

dlc+mods

[winter tapir]

ima js get mods

for ww2

and many other things

welp thank u

ima js buy thre 69

Buy Hearts of Iron IV: General Edition

tmrrw morning im going to buy

[ember vine]

Why is non historical so annoying

[violet veldt]

Lowkey playing defense is so goated

[umbral vessel]

How do I add a lone divison I have into an army?

[violet veldt]

"Oh hey look a cheap unit with high defense high org and high hp, low soft attack no breakthrough and no speed + no terrain buffs, im gonna push with it!" Statements uttered by the utterly deranged

Dont push with infantry unless yours is
A. Better than theirs
B. All that you have
C. Designed for that

[sharp sierra]

eith a billion planning and cas

[violet veldt]

Genius

Idk i have been using mobile warfare for the exact opposite of what its intended for

Lowkey nobody likes cas but everyone loves using cas

Cas cannot be too overpowered or underpowered or else the game is unplayablr

Lowkey does anyone have any alternatives for line arty

[sharp sierra]

wdym the best alternative is not using it

[violet veldt]

All my divs feel underpowered

[leaden mulch]

spgs

[violet veldt]

In my infantry divisions? Smh my head

[sharp sierra]

with late game gun tech an all infantry unit literally attacks better than it would with artillery battalions

[violet veldt]

How often do i have late game gun tech

[leaden mulch]

all the time

[violet veldt]

Ohh let me just get gun 3s in 1939

[leaden mulch]

gun 3 outperforms 1942 arty

[sharp sierra]

line arty is only useful in 1936/37

against china and latin america basically

cuz their tech is booty and line arty is a quick edge

id just rather not deal with having to produce so much of it

[violet veldt]

Idk i just left a kaisserreich game

I was playing communard france and germany was pushing me back

[sharp sierra]

well that shit might be different than vanilla

[violet veldt]

Its singleplayer dw

Its like vanilla but like

Slightly different

[winter fulcrum]

so close to the roman empire

[merry sequoia]

building up my military might now

[woeful knoll]

Austria most op nation in hoi4

no air force BTW

[merry sequoia]

I have no military therefore i am more powerful /j

[hardy mirage]

who do i report a DM spammer too

it's someone from this server

[pliant ginkgo]

Guys I’m doing German civil war in Road to 56. Wish me luck. I already did all of the decisions and both the UK and France agreed to send divisions when the civil war starts

[opal nymph]

Should be easier

Easier than vanilla since you get spawn ins and the enemy ai doesn't seem to want to attack

[winter fulcrum]

a femboy playing hoi4? im in heaven 🥹

[split bane]

Make a ticket by Dming the PDX Bot

[hardy mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[storm tartan]

so paradox drops a mini DLC for navy but has the navy AI in the worst state it has ever been in lol

[exotic bridge]

is this enough rail roads

[merry sequoia]

Vanilla is pretty easy too, create a bunch of small width infantry and a group thats just artillery give the enemy a division thats only 2 artillery pieces and they die as soon as you attack them, atleast thats my way of dealing with the civil war

[split bane]

It's a cosmetic pack like all the tank and plane packs they released in the past

It's not supposed to add anything major

[winter fulcrum]

so close to beating spain

well not close but

its better thanhow it was before

me and the goys beating spain

spain is cooked

[wraith blade]

tf is this border gore, i lost 4 braincells

[winter fulcrum]

theres like 20 wars going on

[wraith blade]

Fair enough

[brave walrus]

how do i get german denmark to stop asking me for support with their independence

[wraith blade]

Conquer them

[winter fulcrum]

tell them "hey stop please i dont like that"

[opal nymph]

Vanilla is easy enough without cheese

[winter fulcrum]

what is a quick way to reduce autonomy?

[wraith blade]

lend lease equipment that you made, so no foreign stockpile and build stuff in the puppet

[storm tartan]

It’s more concerning that they are dropping cosmetic packs (alongside patches btw) and yet navy AI has been broken since December 2025 and no one on their dev team cares lol

[winter fulcrum]

what should i build?

[wraith blade]

infrastructure and civs

[woven gate]

there's a reduce autonomy focus

[wraith blade]

infra for the resources, civ because they are expensive

[winter fulcrum]

ikr? like everytime i put my navy in the english channel to naval invade the british, the game just removes all my ships! so wierd

[wraith blade]

also send them a buttload of convoys

[silver latch]

Yall i am new , I finished the war how do i do the terms i dont understand it can someone help me?

[winter fulcrum]

ww2?

[silver latch]

Yh

[winter fulcrum]

hmm

well js annex everything that u can

[silver latch]

Can u vc and tell me what to do

Its too complicated xD

[winter fulcrum]

sure

[storm tartan]

i think it would be hard for even a new player to lose to the current naval ai

[winter fulcrum]

it was a joke but its not that hard

[storm tartan]

i'm just concerned that it's getting too easy idk maybe someone will mod it to be challenging but the actual devs seem to be making things worse instead of better lately

[merry sequoia]

a whole eight factories 🥹

[woven gate]

what country is it

[merry sequoia]

Luxembourg

[woven gate]

you have my utmost respect for subjecting yourself to that

[split bane]

It's obvious that this pack was planned for long before the navy AI broke

[merry sequoia]

ive got roughly 2 years until german invasion

[woven gate]

maybe build some forts

i'm not sure how you'll hold but you've got me invested now

[merry sequoia]

already have max forts and max infastructure

building my army rn

[woven gate]

what's the Div Template

[woven gate]

pretty good but i think you'll be low on manpower

maybe field hospitals would work

[merry sequoia]

skipped my infastructure focuses because i maxed my infastructure out in 1936 so i can do research and civilian factory buildup before the rest of my military focuses

[woven gate]

makes sense

[merry sequoia]

true, my main goal is to let the french tire the germans out whil i defend then cut them off in belgium and encircle them with the french and british on their way to Paris

[woven gate]

how much manpower do you have in your reserves though

if you run out while almost to the coast you'll probably have to struggle for a while and get taken over with your troops away from home

[merry sequoia]

not much right now as im pushing to create as much infantry as i can handle before early 1940

[woven gate]

oh and you went communist because it'll make you get more weekly manpower

that took me a second

i wanna see how it goes though i'm interested

[merry sequoia]

yeah needed to lol

building more land forts rn now that ive researched to build even more

[woven gate]

i'm tired though, very long day

[celest dirge]

YESSS!

[woven gate]

what level are we on

[merry sequoia]

level 4 building to level 6

[woven gate]

that should hopefully work

[merry sequoia]

also going grand battle plan for more entrenchment

and faster fort construction

[woven gate]

we got snow surprisingly and i had to go shovel the porch

[woven gate]

with Great War Infantry?

[merry sequoia]

yeah

[merry sequoia]

same, got snow today its going to switch to 80 degrees tommorow

[woven gate]

sounds like my city

it was literally 72 the day before and we had snow today

[merry sequoia]

lol, are you from the midwest?

[woven gate]

i'd like to think i am

Pittsburgh, basically the edge of the Midwest

[merry sequoia]

nice, im in the missouri-kansas area

things are starting to change very quickly now

[woven gate]

i guess all we can do is hope

[woven gate]

i have friends literally everywhere in the country but none from Missouri

[merry sequoia]

lol >.<

[woven gate]

has the war started yet

[pliant ginkgo]

Guys war has been going on since Aug 17 1936. March 1937 and we are now at the gates of Berlin

[merry sequoia]

no, but its looming closer, early 1939 right now, just got static defense for even more entrenchment

[woven gate]

alright this should go well

at least i'm hoping

[merry sequoia]

3 more months until WWII starts

there it is, its begun

[winter fulcrum]

chat am i goated?

[winter fulcrum]

what country are you playing?

[merry sequoia]

Luxembourg

[winter fulcrum]

ur cooked

[woven gate]

get ready

[merry sequoia]

polands now gone

1941 artillery by 1940 🥹

[winter fulcrum]

how i feel when i get atomic research in 1986:

[merry sequoia]

lol