#hoi4-general
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Until I was counter encircled and lost 1/5 of my army
both
yippeee
OUCH-
lol
ur china
u have inf manpower
It didnt matter
Never doubt the Chinese economy ๐
We ALL have guns fr
that is way too many divisions with way too less strength
i never had that happen
consolidate your divisions
meanwhile me chilling with space marines (lets not pretend that maybe 2 divisions have 2 heavy tanks in this division rn)
how do u have gun deficir as china
Bro It was a last ditch desperate effort
no
a few functional divisions is better than 2m guys fighting with sticks and stones
Like I was already -70k guns here.
Not against 10000 functional Japanese divs
yeah you should've never got there to begin with
id just defend and build more guns
they work fine for defense
stacking more useless divisions that eat supply but can't fight doesn't help
china cant be that hard right
Also why in gods name does THE USSR need mp.....
Trust
never give them a single bit of manpower
they are helping the CCP
it isn't, and they're playing without dlc so its even easier
bad garrisons prolly
It wasnt until I lost half of my GOOD army in Qingdao because I had to convoys to escape
China is ez trust
-_-
without ncns
so
"Spam a bunch of 6 width divs, just give them some kind of gun"
first time i played i pushed out japan by like 42
Ok but by 42 I was in Korea
So
I didnt listen to the advice until I was already 2 years into the war
So
I was running behind fr
punch the japanses?
I was trying to make a bunch of decent troops
btw cas is king
And I literally couldnt produce enough
id recommend making a few good divisons rather than lots of bad ones
always build air
I literally dont have the industry ;-;
don't make cas as china
Or tech
or, if you do, do it post japan
or make aa
no
Like I had -70k guns with EVERYTHING on Guns
you don't have research or industry
prolly, yeah
i dew it
i start building in like 41 tho
when i actually have stuff
I mean the Japanese weren't too good after I lost my coastline. So I think I know where it was all going wrong ๐ญ
Also when I tried to retreat I got like 200 divs encircled
I just dont know how much to garrison. And they land beside and obliterate my guards
Huh?
do the soldiers you train just throw their guns in the trash every day bro ๐ญ
you can always make port traps
theyre supposed to hold out till ur actual divs arrive
WHAT DOES GARRISON DO?
I was just making more divs without guns because I lost like 40 good divs. So if I didnt spam divs with no guns the Japanese just melted me immediatly
I needed to ykwim
how many factories do u have
I did something REALLY stupid
send ss
That was my last game, I won that
Too ez fr
well what are the two types?
one is the garrison that automatically fills up your captured territory to lower resistance
the other is port/coast guards
Anyways I gtg for like 10 mins
hungary
explain?
do you have the dlcs
yea
the focus tree is quite fun
This is in the game files for some reason
you have ataturk its aura
the illusion of free choice is real-
hoi4 update leak??
north korea elections
only that its all communist
This is how hoi5 will look like
Give me the best trait combo you can think of
What is "Good"
full strength
that's not how the game works
10 divisions at 10% strength are much worse than 1 division at 100% strength
Alr fine, whats a good div?
For China ofc
just 16 width block of infantry
12 width also fine
your starting troops are fine, just make sure they have equipment
hi, are you having problem playing multiplayer?
Afghanistan
emirate path
or
or Kuvait
actually sultanate Ausa has the most
which dlcs do you have
18 widths prolly
Ok but like. I can get out like at most 600k fully equip troop's by time Japan declares
lemme play a game with the same settings so i can see what exactly you're facing
Lemme check fr
How do I check without closing? ;-;
ok
My issue tho is I can deploy 600k fully equip troop's by the time Japan declares, but I cannot gain much more guns during the war fast enough to slow the Japanese enough
I cant make more troops without taking equipment from my other divs
Or starving all my divs of equipment
do you only focus on the economy path to get production growth up? (assuming youre playing china)
I do my army one, then get the 2 free civs and then go down nationalism
For the puppets and pp
I use the pp for military advisor for experience
I dont rlly do the eco tree that much because it doesnt seem that good tbf
i'd say build only mils
Unless I spend wayy too much time on it
if you want to win the war pretty fast than only focus on production growth rate and than do the focus on rural to get rid of commie support and get that research bonus than go down your military focus tree
but at that point id focus on doing the attack side rather than defence (1k hours here)
but if you're not comfortable than defence always helps
just make only infantry divs, always works (16 width)
and focus all mills on infantry
always works as china
cause the only reason they push is lack of weapons, and army debuffs
Bro THIS is my main eco tree (Not including foreign investors tree which barely do anything other than the first focus)
Nopeeeee
;-;
It cant matter too much frr
then make only meat divs
its two different playstyles with pre dlc and post dlc
Wdym
completly ignore art and support untill 1942
BRO Ive been told to make good divs but now Im being told to make bad divs
WHAT DO I DO ๐ญ
like the NCNS dlc changes what your priorities are, what to do prety much
line arty or support?
nothing
What about equipment thooo
only infanrty
guns guns guns, did i mention more guns
they will die
dont care ur china
nvm
I dont got enough to make more than 600k fully equip troop's by time Japan arrives
"One can remain 24 or if necessary 36 hours without eating, but one cannot remain 3 minutes without gunpowder." - General Bonaparte
gunnnss gunnns and people
damn frenchie
yoo bro napoleon the goat
Fr
I'm new zealand with anglo-cornish descent and I think he's the goat so I have a right considering he's my bloods mortal enemy
thats why the dlc is important for efficiency growth
I just rush industry tech lwk
mod?
yo based?
idk millenium mb
My efficiency is fire trust ๐ญ ๐
ew millennium dawn
oh thats completely fine only 2409
mine fav mod is kaisershizodux
This is pre war im just making divs
kaiserredux?
its some axis cold war mod either tno or twr maybe
Should I go with the 1918 gun or the first gun
minionz what is your profile picture meant to be
or french chaliphate with 4000 percent organistaion buffs
what you have rn is fine
The base gun?
yeah
or extremly based trotskiy from antarticta
Alr
dont bother switching it out for an upgrade that just ruins efficiency
sticks out like a sore thumb considering its my national flag
are you from russia?
or any slavic country lowkey i cant tell the difference in the language
oh wow!
Question btw
yo
my friend is obsessed with that region rn because his favourite ufc fighter is from dagestan, obv not checen but your neighbor
Should I actually defend until I fall to the yellow river? Or max entrench
hmmmm
And shortern my coastline a bit
i remember i tried to do that and sometimes they push like they dont care and succeed
but i mightve been stupid
should i push hoi4 to all achievments?
if you can build forts then you could try
I have level 2 forts on most of it
there's no way you got every eu4 achievement...
A ai with an iq too high?
you could try, remember you dont have to hold the WHOLE frontline
I like to let them spill in near mongolia and go as west as they please
word "impossible" is only found in dictionary of fools -napoleon bonaparte
because the more their spilt out in desert land with no supply and no factories and no resources is nothing but a complete waste of resources and men for them which helps make the line youre holding with them easy
steam achievement hacks is also not impossible to grab...
what hacks?
wait there were hacks? so i spended mine time for nothing?๐
no your account get deleted most of the time
but people still use them
Ok but I like to puppet all of china and not invite them fr
And as someone said, steal my puppets troops to guard coastlines
oh okay than its good thing i didnt know abt them
this is your fault for deleting your ENTIRE army ๐ญ
how do i change which order the planes get converted? Like i dont want to make all my fighters into bombers, i wanna convert my old bombers into new ones
lowk mine father forced me to delete steam
Why? ๐ญ
studies
Im first re filling my stock piles then units im just finding it funny how is the ai going to even attack me there 2-3 countrys in the way...
no clue, i've never used that feature
i think the polish peasants republic is also communist and so is germany so they might make a faction to war you
i found out about it right now
We must restore democracy to Europe but first i gotta do some quick production
horrid
yo guys i remeber there was a mod where hitler accepts islam and instead of deutsh reich we have deuths chaliphate, but i cant find it in steamworkshop
did they delete it?
might be out of date
can i see ur logistics page
like ur equipment stockpile
the man in the high castle ahh germany
Here
Wait the start of the war actually looks GOOD
oh u got some crazy mods on
Hold on I might cook fr
1960s tech tree plus usa and russia rework tech tree and lastly simga of iron
The war start doesnt actually look bad yet ๐ฅน โ๏ธ
u can make a whole army of mechanized/motor rifle divisions it looks like
atleast like 30 divs
ik but im waiting till like late 1940s to do it
mostly cause i want to see what the ai does first give the game some fun
ill have to try those mods
so like 1948
game ends by then
Yuh
keep holding twin
Ok so I've made good divs, with ACTUAL equipment and in 3 months Ive lost like 3 whole tiles ๐ฅน โ๏ธ
(Last time I was like almost at the yellow river)
ur playin as china?
should be an ez roll
just make some basic fighters and cas with those divs and they're cooked
I have no dlc's gng I have NO eco tree
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Might be a lil cooked rn ๐ญ
always hold the right side, you can lose the left
let them go to sinkiang for all you care
WITH WHAT BRO ๐ญ
I have no spare divs
Im using port garrisons to hold the Quingdao lines
is your army in shanxi
1 tank and its gone xd
or are u just holding your borders
Im holding
yeah just dont send any armies to the west
guardin ports and have backup divs incase of a landing?
They wont see it coming fr
This encirclement could lwk help so much if it works ๐ญ
Nvm
They connected ;-;
FINALLY got war of resistance
Its so back fr
canada has no where to go now
I think they have their own discord
The Japanese tanks are too strong bro ๐ญ
The second I try to take a port back they do a mass counter attack and Im being pushed everywhere ๐
imagine 4 20mils and 4 50 cals on one p40
What happened to my stockpile.....
did your pile blow up
Then all out mass assult by Japan
sit like this, behind the river
The river is GONE bro
you can hold this position basically indefinitely
bro how bad is your attrition man
The Japanese naval invasions cooked it
Im getting mass assult charged by Japan with a bad industry bro
next time, just don't even try to hold in the north
ah china that figures
Its not going THAT bad fr
For aug 1938
the americans should help in like 4 years maybe 5
ignore the east
just started a monarchist sweden run๐ญ
the warlords can hold there
I am
sit behind the river where you still can
Just retreat?
oh Sweden is fun to play I like that but painful to start up
yup
in most cases, on the defense, you do NOT want to fight for every single tile. you want to choose the best defensive position you can and fight there
make sure you're close to the supply hubs and they aren't
honestly only problem i gotta prep for is fighting germany
norway and finland will fall quickly
and that you are behind rivers, on mountains, hills, forests etc where possible
if you're behind a major river, even numerically superior japanese force just can't do anything to any most of the time
Anyone play kaiserreich
528hrs in game, first time playing fascist germany now
Free trade will be the death of me ๐ญ
but it gets one shot by a 30 cal
that's what this plane is
but yeah that would be a hefty plane
I'm just experimenting there is like no plan here
yup that works well
My current line is holding well anyways so
The Japanese have around equal army size
So its not so bad
i wasn't looking for a second and got naval invaded all over the qingdao region lmao
got encircled and killed 10 japanese divisions as a result tho so that's a win
Do you think its worth my hand at a counter offensive to the yellow river?
So few Japanese
should I?
sure
1 good thing of losing so many ports. I have way more divs to actually guard ports xd
before pressing that button learn what mefo bill cancel exploits are
So its like 100x harder for Japan to push
Since all there pushes have been as a result of naval invasions
The push was immediately worth it ๐ฅน
lmao
do you know what port cheese is?
๐ฅ
what a division
how do i delete all my saves
Windows button + L
Wait these Casualties are actually fire considering I've been doing offensives ๐ฅน โ๏ธ
u got me
It sends a command to the game and it deleates all of your files
o
when im in game
Huh?
Yep
im not in game
so it just put me to login screen
i thought u were trolling me
You need to be in the game
Is my pfp bad
I would never
I kinda forgot to research amphib drive for my amphibious marines but this is good enough
Its technically just an unfortunately patterned cat
Yeah
Ok
my saves are still there
The conclusion of my war against the western allies in my Germany run. the USSR and the USA are still unconquered at present however.
And a super heavy battleship
Technically its still a r4
Since the cat represends a certain man
Ok I finished
dont even bother naval invading
just go striaght for the cap on britain
How come
its way easier?
Ur right
Was it his cat?
yup
not really
It is
just how the game works
Be fr
for a temporary measure just replace 3 spgs with 3 amtracs
It is cheesy
How dare you
you get near 50% amphibious bonus but, well, it's an interim measure
You get like 5% atmphib attack in replacement of like
80 soft attack
Yeah 6%
Which is a rip off
This is why we attack with dedicated offensive units
Im China.
Okay
Vanilla China
Idk what that is
Enough can deal with it
;-;
Oh
Do you guys think 10 marines and 24 inf is good enough to cap AI britaijn
Since you can actually produce stuff
and when u beat soviets
Yh its sep 1939 and Im doing counter offensives. Ts easy trust
give them all of central asain
I just need guns
Have you put a mil or 2 on arty?
and china gets those central asian cores too
Support arty does wonders
actually probably not the worst idea tbh. but also puppet them in their least populated province
All on guns like I was told by everyone
since they won't get china cores
And base guns
Yeah, initially
Ok
also it's better having resources under your own name than a puppet
You get 1936 guns as your first tech
what is the looking for mp call for?
And you now get stats
Its actually 1939
Well, you seem to be in a pickle
Can't switch to better guns
Forced to have crap stats
Unless you take the production hit
also dlc china starts without production capacity, so no biggie if you lose your nonexistent production capacity
He has no dlc it seems
so yeah you should have rushed 1936 guns
He said vanilla china
can you license
Welp
Before NCNS, you could deal with Japan and get the event to white peace by war with Poland time
stabilize the front line and then switch to maybe guns 2 at this rate since this is 1939
the peace is still there
I mean war done by late 39
look guys i made an encirclement ๐
Early 40
I think the AI did too
nah
yeah you can still have war done by 1939 with dlc i believe
Is it a good thing if me and ai France are almost at Frankfurt with in like the first month of the war
yeah
Iโm going to loss 24 division which are basically all of them
ive almost retaken shandong
Iโm going to be cooked
you're germany?
Anyway when ever I get home Iโm going to do some multi player anyone want to join
UK
i mean yeah having frankfurt in month 1 of the war is a really good thing
Yea Germany gained no land
all men shall die
you can plan some naval invasions too
rough
we got 13.5% of the population to kill
France pushed in while I defend the line and then pushed my men in the opening and we are like 40 units away from taking out the whole Germanyโs home guard
are you trying to kill more soviets?
as the soviet union?
yes.
3 women for every man
I want to make a joke
then.. make a joke?
Canโt

Yea itโs funny but you can probably assume
are you okay
Has to do with this
Maybe not to sure
you need an emo bart pfp
Man you almost have Berlin
is this a good tank div?
how do you fix the fact that the game always crashes post 1950s?
Looks to be
Canโt have the time
To hard to run
slow speeds or optimization mods
im usually fine post 50s tho
you wont be able to afford it
like the 1950s have a crash every once a while
its 1943 and im the soviets
Dose it save aleast
but once u get to 1960s and usa or china is still alive the game crashes
somewhat inconsistently
u can only like make a few of that division
i know it says so equipment but its only infantry equipment
why wont the game let my have some fun with thermonukes ๐ญ
you can afford it but get rid of that template its atrocious and its gonna ruin your supply
kinda too late for that tbh
Man when I get on later
lmao
Iโm gonna need help with get the u.s making better stuff
where does the ai like to stack divisions?
ah the spoils of war
Usually it likes to stack units on railways to attack your supply hubs
plan naval invasion then nuke the citys
i nuke them the second cooldown expires ๐ญ
the allies are at like 30mil casulties
I HATE Japanese Naval invasions SO MUCH
democracy rings
communism.
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hmmm I prefer my troops well fed
their.. fed
WHAT ARE YOU GIVING THEM ROCKS?
well I guess you won at least
What do I even do here....
restart
seeing this after nuke strike is beautiful
Its not even like Japan is too strong
hold out then
They just walk into land I didnt have troops to defend
Wtv Im going to the best fall back line in history fr
or the navy task forces, do i deploy mixed or seperate groups
like how i have it, its all the same in each section.
but when i click a patrol mission. it says 1/6 so i figure that is wrong
so basically
its hard to explain
everyone zone has one of the 6 task forces inside
each icon in the top left is a taskforce
so ive sent a taskforce of soley repair ships by themselves to get blasted lul
whats a good composition of ships for a taskforce
IE 6 destroyers per 1 crusier per 1 capital ship
I overpushed and did something stupid...
Cus Japanese naval invasions every single SECOND OF MY DAY
As I forgot to garrison newly gained land -_-
turns out they're actually cheap enough to mass produce so I can just keep throwing them
happens
Eh most my industry wasnt there so
I lwk forgot to flood the yellow river....
Huh
you're not supposed to
What if I abandon it completely tho?
Like If I plan to abandon the river completely and the tiles it effects
fair
clearly you didn't
so
it lasts quite long
so if you wanna later take it back
ok bro ๐
terrible reich game so far, but capitulated czechia after heavy losses and got these lovely puppets
I hate non historical when the Allies give you NOTHING
And the Little Entente forms
thankfully only againts france
yh
I had a game exactly like this
Except Russia, Usa, and Uk were also against me ๐ญ
From the start
accidently moved my line but proved pretty good bait
temporary setback for breach of the maginot
Hungary before trianon
Just believe lwk
Or go through Belgium
Either or
Both are good options fr

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censoring thw swastika in an ww2 game ๐
Ok but last time I sent an image with a swastika I got told I couldnt>
Its discord gng
grinding through slop maginot ๐ข
already breached it
about to take advantage
W
i gotta actually use proper tank divs, im still just using space marines because i got that minor country mindset
xd
what 350hrs or so of finland gameplay does to one
Im ass bro I refuse to use tanks
just play inf only
tanks suck
Dont matter the country
just not worth it
I played inf only Poland and cooked fr
in no step back they're nice
wanna invest more? build air
slop division thats most of my army
what year is this in
39
๐
aa modcheck
Be a man, air support isnt required
my divs in 39 deal 200+ soft attack
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should also use railway guns
not holding shift ๐
ello
Britan won't let me join the war
Heya. How are you?
atp just autoplan them
after this small encirclement
not like it'd matter
Im usa and its jun 1939 and britan won't invite me to his cool club with France and stuff
wait until 40-41
personally I'd declare war on them for that
When japan strikes pearl harbor
And guess what guys
chicken butt
Im doing the Manhattan project
i though macedonia was ukraine for a second
Something is happening to poland
Thats cus your bad
You can just deal with cas through sheer willpower
And it doesn't look good
You're
I suck because i use tanks
MY SPY GOT CAUGHT
You can just deal with cas through sheer willpower.
I should just push with inf and no cas like a normal person
You forgot your full stop.
WHAT DO I DO
nothing
I*
Just ignore cas
Its the dialectically materialist thing to do
I NEED TO DO SOMETHING
absolutely nothing
Attacks are supposed to come from the ground not the sky
NO
heโll die soon and youll get a new one
JAPAN IS GONNA KILL HIM
The contradictions will settle themselves smh my head
I LIKE HIM BETTER
i mean you can do a resque operation
HOW
If you dont want cas bombing your divisions then you just suck at the game
go into the spy mode
Take the flat damage like a real hoi4er
Ok
then go look at japan
Im looking
3s
and then press at your spy
Improved cannon
im in 1941 (january), i got 1943 medium tank advanced chasis
Advanced/improved radio
Pressed
Or best cannon you have idk
2 heavies
Either a doser
give a screenshot
Or a stabilizer
give screenshot
Chrystler
ofc
Riveted
okay ig
No
Thatโs good to hear 
Do I need another one
go into spy upgrades and press at tye recruit thingy upgrade
never save your agents its a waste of effort
exactly
But he looks like frank Sinatra
theres more franks in the sea
good
discord does that
discord setting
To be honest japan gets so many buffs to naval bombers
and tora tora
that on default if i just ugprade my old ships and do light cruisers with air dominance which i also get early and i have better mio's then america
you really can't do much
and if you can i can still take india and malaysia and call it quits that
while going into russia
yeah sure but against AI all I need to do is just get AA cruisers and the doctrine and I'm fine if I bring good fighters too
UK still aint inviting me
?
what year is it
has japan gone after indonesia yet?
ask that in the kr discord
40
all it took was to cap austria and i get all of this ๐น
did japan attack you yet
No
when japan attacks you and indonesia uk will invite you
Why is Mexico united Mexico states
so get ready
official name
i meant for in battles
make some super heavys
โค๏ธ
nice, free achievement
heavy organized navy
Who needs naval against Japan as the Soviets anyway? Just spam naval bombers, torpedo bombers, maritime bombers etc
all other axis members but argentina are my puppets
And port strike
can you
yea
if you see the green check they will always accept
what year
How
build collabs next time
he went alt
and got lucky
he got free europe as alt history
no i didnt
Fix your production cap
austria refused, czechia refused
and there hard to kill?
had to fight france, czechia, romania and yugo at same time early, lost quite a lot and got pushed back
that not tht horrible.
Just go around smh my head
yes but its not ideal
Did you fight uk?
no i pushed through maginot because im a chud
not yet but they are commie and gaurantee poland
it not hard
holy shit this map is amazing
"no one understands what hell is "
france was so encompetant the maginot was light work
Invade through the alps ig you have yo
Uk be like ๐
might just puppet commie italy for the sake of it
so it doesnt join britain's commie faction when the time comes
im italy with my NEW NEW NEW (8 hrs) friend as ger
???
also help out bulgaria, you get absolutely nothing out of it and they still wait to join the war anyway
they are my puppet
and so is the rest of the balkans
everyone but argentina in the axis are my puppets
tf is a syrmian. i swear the balkans are just making shit up for the sake of having wars now
bulgaria must be kept tightly on a leash or they'll fly off and destroy your entire empire
the kasier path for germany is busted
i just capitulated the ussr i9n like a year nd a half
yeah realising more and more you lwk right king ๐คค
all of europe is free
I will literally never run out of anything
where tha spitfires at
w borders?
How to paratroop
Order
Thing
I wnat my paratroopers to land in Germany but they wont
still no clue how navy works but i suppose this is nice
invading the us
who are you playing as
germany
nice
has anyone else tried to get the huge-oslavia achievement recently?
austria keeps getting cores on bohemia when i puppet them even though they should be locked out of that part of the tree when they're not independent
hmm, got the why die for danzig achievement accidently from this
nice
annoying that i cant form ostland like this
Were you trying to form the holy roman empire? I mean I don't know about you but it looks similar
nope
just playing the reich
Whats the meta light cruiser design
One time I was playing Democratic Germany with the EU and I had to capitulate tibet (because they were leading a faction) and the supply was so bad I just gave up
@crisp wyvern and i just did this in the WWI mod
i made russia extremely overpowered and i think he lost his mind as serbia
He absolutely clapped the Austrians after degloving Germany btw
I genuinely did, this is what playing Serbia does to a mf
But atleast I reclaimed most of the Serbian empire lands of the medieval ages
Operation Bagration came like 30 years early
anyways i'm tired as hell
degloved is such a funny ass word
mystery man
