hoi4-general

[violet veldt]

Youre still a capitalist country

You have capitalist relations with other countries

[finite plume]

Deal with it

🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

[grave sonnet]

Cry me a river man idk

[violet veldt]

"Alr youre ragebaiting"

[finite plume]

Cope and seethe

[grave sonnet]

A world revolution is impossible

I mean go for it

[violet veldt]

Wow so tough

[grave sonnet]

The left would come out disappointed

[violet veldt]

I bet you say "bad morning" to the kindergarten teacher

[finite plume]

"Sadly from 🇺🇸 "

[finite plume]

Lmao

[violet veldt]

Youre so cool btw that stench coming from you is just your aura

[finite plume]

You're*

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-doctor-pigeon-doctor-walking-t-mobile-gif-7871406254764076813

[violet veldt]

Dont be a grammar fascist

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-get-a-load-of-this-guy-look-at-this-guy-come-on-bruh-gif-18066748999193463069

Wait till he realizes what family of languages English is

[violet veldt]

"No no hans you forgot a comma"

[violet veldt]

He?💔

[grave sonnet]

Medics so cool I would yap about what I did today but I'll zip it and I won't be boring

[uncut pollen]

Its annoying

[finite plume]

Do you use field medics in HOI4

[violet veldt]

Pronounce in bio smh my head🙏

[grave sonnet]

Ofc

[finite plume]

Same 🗿

[grave sonnet]

🤝

[finite plume]

Especially for minor countries

Every soldier counts

[grave sonnet]

True...

[grave sonnet]

Not if Marx starts spawning them in

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

https://giphy.com/gifs/500-cigarettes-firepeg-qOSNC24lvEWTzplsJJ

[grave sonnet]

The homeless man after I give him money :

[finite plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256056033600868425/1354974225152217109/Andando.webp

[timber laurel]

whats a good amount of CAAS to use

[violet veldt]

Lives in a gated community btw

[rapid basin]

how do i get victoria

[finite plume]

Man you just ache for an argument huh

🙏

[violet veldt]

Stop being so argumentable then

[finite plume]

All silent till he sees something he can argue about

[violet veldt]

Look in a diff channel

Go talk about hoi4 then

[finite plume]

This is HOI4 wdym

[grave sonnet]

Find a tut

Wait a sec

[finite plume]

Wrong channel for your political posting 🙏

[grave sonnet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/aSKa3up1jjM?si=p6ThhclSVpkMSEqz

I'm not sure if they changed anything

Since this is outdated

[finite plume]

They might've if that's pre-Gotterdammerung

[grave sonnet]

It's before Got.

[grave sonnet]

Politics Server exists for a reason

[grave sonnet]

This yes

[rapid basin]

how do i have more air safety

is it a focus?

[grave sonnet]

It's a decision

[rapid basin]

i need that female leader achievement

[grave sonnet]

Woman in the high castle?

[rapid basin]

yes

[grave sonnet]

Alr good luck

I did mine with Eva Braun

[finite plume]

Ngl I wish Communist/Socialist paths in HOI4 gave more industrial focused content and buffs

[rapid basin]

i need the carribean thing aswell

[finite plume]

Com-China did pretty good with that but Germany for example lacks a bit

[grave sonnet]

Especially Economic buffs

[finite plume]

Yeah

[rapid basin]

pretty sure i can't get the admiral anymore since i don't wanna promise to reider

[finite plume]

Like for example it feels weird that a country that's labelled a "Worker's Paradise" has no industrial buff or spirit

[grave sonnet]

☝🏼

[grave sonnet]

I still gotta do the commie china achievements that I said I would do 1 month ago

[vital mirage]

what mode is better twr or red dusk?

[coral lark]

kaiserreich

[grave sonnet]

Kaiserreich yes

The only answer

[rapid basin]

can i even do this if the UK goes communist

[coral lark]

Socialist uk is one of the most fun playthroughs

[rapid basin]

"decolonisation"

https://tenor.com/view/pc-fire-gif-18709628

[coral lark]

uk only has uk is KR playthrough, you start as a socialist union

though you can invade iceland over fish, that's always fun

if anyone wants a game of multi i would be down, haven't done a socialist coop yet

[fossil dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/overheat-computer-explosion-boom-spark-gif-17323916

[rapid pumice]

What is worse, cavalry or irregulars?

[rapid basin]

austria went habsburg, pog

[fossil dragon]

Cavalry is 100% stronger and faster

[rapid pumice]

How come? I thought neither were upgraded by the doctrines so

[heavy vigil]

cav

irregulars are goated

30 hp, terrain buffs, doctrines do buff them

[rain aspen]

i see

[valid cipher]

oh, and yes, the focus tree usually does not get deleted 😉

[valid cipher]

why should cavalry be bad? it is faster than normal infantery, but needs a bit more wapons, ...
just make sure they have support companies, ...

[valid cipher]

doctrine bonuses, maybe, may depend on the doctrine. but at least they can have support companies, or you can add a tank. I think some wile ago they even had lower need for supply, ...

[timber laurel]

do units progresivvelly lose XP if they dont fight?

[trim lotus]

No. XP loss comes primarily from either taking casualties or from changing unit template.

[proud tapir]

its so funny seeing estonia go fascist on none historical and the fascists lost the civil war within like the first month or two

[quasi osprey]

is this a nice comitern for 1937

[proud tapir]

returned to deafult settings by itself

[proud tapir]

rush Poland, puppet them and also puppet Lithuania and Finland and you have yourself a wall against barbarossa

[quasi osprey]

they are guaranteed by the brits

[proud tapir]

in 37 already?

wow

are you playing historical?

[quasi osprey]

and the french

[quasi osprey]

I conquered romania turkey and bulgaria which made the brits gurantee anyone I justify on

[quasi osprey]

and this is still pretty nice because it severy shortens the border with the axis

wdym

[spring quest]

howdy yall

[safe wing]

Hey

[spring quest]

how yuns be today

any thing good going on in here

[heavy vigil]

no

[safe wing]

I just got up so I can’t confirm

[spring quest]

word i feel that one

[rustic basalt]

Guys I'm starting to get the hang of the game

[patent junco]

Guys how do I gain cav leader

[sudden thistle]

By using Calvary

I’m not going to address the elephant in there though

[patent junco]

I mean over 40% of my division is motorized

[sudden thistle]

Wait

I think trucks count

Idk about mech

[snow rain]

That's not how that ratio works
It needs to be the ratio in battle with mot/mech/cav in battle

If you have 2 divs attacking along with inf the inf counts towards it as well

[patent junco]

so no tanks

[safe wing]

I'm gonna civ greed as Imperial Germany

gonna be at war by 1940

[snow rain]

Civ greed in that case would be to build civs past mid 1937

Don't forget to NOT go for autarky either

[safe wing]

I never go for Autarky as Imperial Germany anyways

considering PEG is better for them

[snow rain]

Good choice

[latent raven]

Time traveller moves a stone

[broken thorn]

Fr

[winter badge]

Mossad files

[strong umbra]

since when does this even exist?

[ivory hull]

PEG is also better late game for normal germany

[safe wing]

true

[ivory hull]

pretty long

[safe wing]

MTG

[broken thorn]

Guys

[ripe slate]

@broken thornPlease check #server-rules

[broken thorn]

Thank you i was looking for the rules

Couldnt find them

for some reason

[viscid mason]

I thought you meant magic the gathering at first for some reason kek.

[safe wing]

Man the guns

But yeah magic the gathering too

[viscid mason]

I know. the server I was in to play hoi4 also plays magic the gathering lol.

[safe wing]

The event was part of communist Mexico trying to get the western powers to decolonize the Caribbean which usually leads to wwii on non historical

[safe wing]

Used to play alot of magic from 2016-2018

[snow rain]

Since man the guns dlc iirc

Monroe doctrine was always a thing in hoi, it just takes a while (forever) before US actually does the focuses for it

[viscid mason]

I only play a little bit of online magic the gathering because my online hoi4 mates play it lol

[winter badge]

Tf is that

[broken thorn]

idk

[azure palm]

what in the name of marijn is that?

[winter badge]

How many oberkommandos are on this server

[azure palm]

I think only two

knax and me I think

[broken thorn]

6-7

[winter badge]

Heer, luftwaffe, wehrmacht and kriegsmarine?

[winter badge]

Is this popular 67 or answer since i cant tell

[azure palm]

only two, oberkommando des heeres knax, and me

[broken thorn]

idk

[winter badge]

Ok

[winter badge]

Idk either

[safe wing]

played with a friendgroup in person after highschool as part of a afterschool club

[strong umbra]

oh dayum

[winter badge]

The longer the time passes, the bigger is the US army

And they have huuuuge idnustry

[strong umbra]

holy shi

i think my kd ratio is pretty good

[wide osprey]

i saw this mod and now i wanna uuuuh i wanna um huh
make a mod where you uuuh your county is a big um candy factory and you need to produce candies, chocolates, gummies, lollipops...

[mint ice]

Valid

[wide osprey]

make hoi4 censored edition

like pyroland in tf2

😮

[strong umbra]

w us air force

[molten forge]

as benelux should i attack germany in 38?

[safe wing]

@heavy vigil can you show me a good medium SPG design?

nvm

[sly venture]

Every dlc on discount but no compromise no surrender

[wide osprey]

it was released 4 months ago

[untold current]

enemys air force is made out of paper

[woven solstice]

hi

I found a Bug

[untold current]

how many divs are you making bru

[woven solstice]

100

[untold current]

thats why

[woven solstice]

?

why?

[untold current]

you are training 100 divs

[woven solstice]

100 divisions is not casting 92.209.766

Equipment

[safe wing]

It is because they need guns

[untold current]

idk

[woven solstice]

cost

[untold current]

maybe resistance?

[woven solstice]

I'm not training 100 I have 100

[untold current]

battleplanning?

[safe wing]

Plus some of your divisions might not be fully equipped

[woven solstice]

division

I don't know why it just came up

when I looked at my Equipment

hm

guys?

I remember

One Thing

I send the Soviet Union 20.000 Equipment

[green moss]

ahem

[woven solstice]

what?

[wide osprey]

pretty common bug due decimal overflow

🙂

[woven solstice]

oh

ok ty

[wide osprey]

you produced too much equipment so the game said "nah man i can't"

[heavy vigil]

yes

im capable of that

[safe wing]

Nvm I found one from Topzand

[woven solstice]

hi

I have a question

How can you challenge people?

like in multiplayer

[sudden thistle]

Elaborate

[woven solstice]

?

what is elavorate?

[sudden thistle]

Explain more

[sly venture]

how is blud alive

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-confetti-awesome-gif-11884906

[dawn mango]

if you guys dont know this is colonial france back when french colonies werent independent

[grave sonnet]

Did the mod get any updates

I have the urge to play it again

[green moss]

they added Cognoscenti path for Union of America

essentially it's about Deep State taking control over America

reconstructing Twin Towers, taking all the freedoms

enacting Patriot Act II

and conquering the world

[grave sonnet]

Ic

Thanks for the information

Loji

[south mountain]

Is this good chat?

[grave sonnet]

Historical ahh

[high nest]

kto polak?

[grave sonnet]

Btw railroad the divisions in the Netherlands to the front

[grave sonnet]

nie

nie kto polak

[strong umbra]

im almost done conquering the world the last true major that can oppose me is about to die

its done

[woven solstice]

Can you tell me how to fix My Profile

???

[tame spear]

wallahi I’m finished

hoi4 sale ends 6 days before I get my pocket money

so when is the next sale

does anyone know

[tame spear]

elaborate

[green moss]

THE LONG MARCH after initiating 'The Second Leap Forward' came up with a conclusion. The fastest way to achieve common happiness is to end the root of all suffering. The life and the belongings

[grave sonnet]

The Chinese civil war in TFR some crazy shit

[green moss]

that's Eternal Golden Dawn

[grave sonnet]

Yes ik it isn't Tfr

I'm just saying lol

[green moss]

but yeah

[grave sonnet]

I want them to give every clique a focu stree

[green moss]

I unified China as Mao's clique and began my own "Great Leap Forward" (thru cheating)

[grave sonnet]

Baaed

Based*

[crisp wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/qing-beloved-qing-dynasty-locket-china-gif-26873563

[green moss]

the only correct way to play 2CCW (if there is no Loji)

or through Heavenly Father's path

but meh

[grave sonnet]

Ic

[crisp wyvern]

remember unifying China as manchukuo and then launching a naval invasion of Japan soon after I unified the lands

and launched a nuke in tokyo

deserved

[grave sonnet]

Great now Conquer all of Europe and make everyone fall under the Franco British Union

[green moss]

Did you get nukes faster than Uncle Sam

[crisp wyvern]

I always do

[green moss]

oh god

that's a rapid progress

[crisp wyvern]

I also nuked the koreans

And the indochinese

Just to keep my borders safe with puppets

half their populations were wiped out by the nukes

[wanton whale]

yessir

[grave sonnet]

What are they doing to my boy Yugo 💔

[broken thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/city-boy-gravity-falls-cityboy-city-gif-7883969618059930120

[green moss]

THE LONG MARCH wiped the slate clean and formed "THE COLLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE" alliance, whose members are surely not forced to be part of!

[broken thorn]

well it is real

cuz asians are smart

[uncut pollen]

English only

[green moss]

some mods are so blank that I have to write lore all by myself

[broken thorn]

you play on mods?

[green moss]

yeah

that's Eternal Golden Dawn

[broken thorn]

i play vanillaa

[green moss]

Vanilla is great, but I'm bored of it

[broken thorn]

how

[green moss]

DLCs are rareee

[safe wing]

Dislike a the option that Napoleonic France can ally Germany in road to 56

[grave sonnet]

At least we won't be under Romania (Hopefully)

[green moss]

I've tried out like half of the paths in vanilla game

[safe wing]

I jump games a lot whenever vanilla gets boring to me

[grave sonnet]

RT56 is coal and trash

[green moss]

RT56 is DLC HOI4 for the poor

[grave sonnet]

☝🏼

But ngl if you don't have any DLCs go for it

I can't lie

[green moss]

I mean

[grave sonnet]

I used to use it

[safe wing]

Napoleonic France should have the options to ally Italy and Britain against Germany and the USSR in my opinion

[grave sonnet]

When I had no DLC

[green moss]

DLCs are pretty expensive

[grave sonnet]

Truke

[green moss]

especially on usual days (not sale)

[grave sonnet]

True

[green moss]

greedy company that produces peak

[safe wing]

Same goes for creative assembly and most other gaming companies as well unfortunately

[green moss]

Paradox Interactive games are not really a steal

[safe wing]

Agreed

[green moss]

optimisation though (millions of calculations per frame)

[safe wing]

But I hate ea more because they killed Westwood studios

Which made my childhood command and conquer games

And pandemic studios which made the 2005 battlefront 2

[green moss]

that's how brutal monopolisation is

[safe wing]

Cronyism at its finest

Though tbf no one has tried to make a total war alternative for example and the people who have tried aren’t good at it or come close but still miss

Stratgeos came close

Ultimate admiral seemed promising but the devs were just as greedy

Imagine charging people to buy a multiplayer option

[green moss]

I don't really like overdetailed games on the level of EU5

but I like adding some complexity to the vanilla

[vital mirage]

Do thousands week Reich have alots of content or not enough?

[safe wing]

Same

[green moss]

just enough

[grave sonnet]

They ruined EU5

[vital mirage]

I did try to play Italy and I didn't enter an war for 8year... where is the war goal or any focus for wars?

[green moss]

I heard that you can delegate some elements to the AI

or I'm delusional

[safe wing]

They are going to ruin Medivial 3

[grave sonnet]

Medivial 2 gang rise up

[green moss]

"similar to previous Paradox grand strategy games" I don't remember that

[safe wing]

I just love how the people on the total war discord defending the trailer saying it wasn’t ai when it clearly was

[vital mirage]

How much time does 1 game in twr take? In game year

[grave sonnet]

AI slop using more water than the water bottle industry is crazy to me

[green moss]

like three good hours

oh

[vital mirage]

In game year?

[green moss]

in game year it's probably less

I was saying overall

[safe wing]

Even worse they said that Rome total war Medivial 2 were inferior to Warhammer total war

[grave sonnet]

[vital mirage]

Like 6y? (When fo all the war start like 2year or 5year or even 8year?)

[safe wing]

Yeah

[green moss]

the first proxy war you're going to fight is French Civil War

then German Civil War (if you reject compromises)

then expand everywhere

[safe wing]

They even thought hoi4 was worse than warhammer and as bad as paradox’s dlc policy is Warhammers is even worse

Somehow

[vital mirage]

No like world war that i fighting alots of cuntry and when like in 5year from the game start?

[jade ore]

lol im so good at the game

[green moss]

oh nvm

[green moss]

probably

[rare rock]

hey guys, is it possible to report a host that breaks his own rules so that they cant host anymore?

[jaunty sinew]

no

[quasi osprey]

can someone tell me if this soviet game is any good its 1939 and I conquered romania,bulgaria and turkey, took half of china and am currently destroying the fins.

[green moss]

I think MPs operate by unspoken rules (the ones declared by host)

[sudden thistle]

It’s nice for some parts

[green moss]

so I advice you to just switch sessions

[sudden thistle]

Especially when ur learning the game

[sudden thistle]

No

[rare rock]

ok, cool. i thought there was some reporting system here for bad hosts or something

[high nest]

hello, any1 would be so nice and shows me how to prepare war plans on voice channel?

[green moss]

the only rules are like don't talk about modern politicians and don't beef with each other

[south mountain]

What to do here?

[green moss]

naw I'm about to sleep sorry

[opal summit]

i reccomend getting supply

[high nest]

hello, any1 would be so nice and shows me how to prepare war plans on voice channel?

[broken thorn]

Why

[green moss]

bureaucracy and a lot of balancing

every DLC they produce is good regardless of how small it can be

[broken thorn]

But why

[green moss]

because it's easier to make a mod and spread your own vision in small mod-making collectives instead of doing a lot of checks in a huge company and deeply ensure that none of the mechanics violate the main game

dunno how to elaborate any further

[proud tapir]

how

7 cruisers

[jade ore]

😇

[fervent minnow]

i did NOT know battelcruisers were THAT good

damn

[jade ore]

uh i mean

its super expensive lol

but it works

im convoy raiding britian with 9 of those

[azure palm]

I am currently playing france, allied with axis, have 62% war score, capitulated britian and ireland and only lost 51k soldiers. Italy has 33% war score and lost 626k

[safe wing]

Rome total war only had 2 DLCs or expansions as they were called

Barbarian invasion (fall of the western Roman Empire)

And the lackluster Alexander

[ebon wolf]

hello, im failing to take down france as germany, any tips? what mediunk tank division template should i use

[safe wing]

SPG’s and CAS my friend

[ebon wolf]

what is SPG?

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/k9-thunder-firing-self-propelled-howitzer-artillery-spg-gif-7427021126688841622

[ebon wolf]

Artillery?

[fervent minnow]

are self propelled arty even that good

[safe wing]

Self propelled artillery

[jade ore]

we retreated due to low strength but lol

[safe wing]

Yeah

[fervent minnow]

i usually just go all in on air

[ebon wolf]

I think I need blitzkrieg

[safe wing]

They are meta now

[spiral sphinx]

what yall fav template to defend

[fervent minnow]

hoooly shit

[opaque zinc]

1 infantry

[fervent minnow]

ok im def doing battlecruisers

[safe wing]

Mine is 9 infantry

[uncut pollen]

is that a no no symbol from germany i see?

[jade ore]

idk why its even a battlecruiser i think its cuz of the armor

[fervent minnow]

how do you mix them in a tank div

or an inf

[opaque zinc]

No it’s the iron cross

[safe wing]

Sorry didn’t see that symbol

[opaque zinc]

That’s not a bad symbol

Don’t delete that

[jade ore]

no theres definitely a swastika on the back of the plane

[uncut pollen]

look at the end of the plain

[opaque zinc]

Oh

[safe wing]

Look at the end of the plane

[opaque zinc]

I only saw the iron cross

[safe wing]

Same

[opaque zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1378077680540586104/1443324171965698119/IMG_9346.gif

[spiral sphinx]

0.5 infantry better

[uncut pollen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/google-im-reddit-BIZkwFtu2xDlS

[opaque zinc]

1 artillery

[safe wing]

36 width infantry

[spiral sphinx]

that is op

[safe wing]

Yeah why do you think I use it

[spiral sphinx]

mh

[winter badge]

Nah 0.25 mountaineers the best

[uncut pollen]

no nazi flags/imagery please.

[spiral sphinx]

Marines are better

[safe wing]

👍

[spiral sphinx]

use mountaineers for naval

[safe wing]

I prefer the empire anyways

[fervent minnow]

goated

[opaque zinc]

My templates usually use a fighter plane

And that’s it

[fervent minnow]

the empire was so cool

[safe wing]

It is my MOST played Germany path

[fervent minnow]

its my most played hoi4 path lmao

[safe wing]

Same

[fervent minnow]

which side do you do

[opaque zinc]

I’ve played Germany twice

[fervent minnow]

brest litovsk or eastern front

[safe wing]

Kaiser + PEG + Prussian infantry

[safe wing]

Depends

[fervent minnow]

i do kaiser peg tanks, you become very strong that way too

but i really like the OHL way too

[safe wing]

True

[fervent minnow]

like its very fun to do OHL

cuz the entire point is hey we're the military

we can do whateevr

[proud tapir]

how much did it take you to build

a single one

[safe wing]

Cooler flag as well

[fervent minnow]

cooler leader as well

and name

[jade ore]

it says the preduction cost in the bottom right, but idk

[proud tapir]

finally a fellow military dictatorship enjoyer

[jade ore]

atleast a year lol

[safe wing]

Leaders*

[proud tapir]

the flag is just

superior

[fervent minnow]

OHL path is jsut soooooooo good bro especially topped with brest litovsk borders

[fervent minnow]

agressive german empire

[proud tapir]

Infantry madness

very good bonuses to planning

[fervent minnow]

i prefer tanks but yes, theyre very good

inf as german empire is very very good

you get a lotta bonuses to it

[proud tapir]

When i want to do a pure battleplan and go infantry build i play Germany with military dictatorship

[fervent minnow]

thats just i have no brain and i must paint map

which is very reasonable

[proud tapir]

Kaiser works pretty much the same but the military path gives a little more bonuses

plus

like way cooler

[safe wing]

Playing Victoria for the achievement as my ongoing campaign

[fervent minnow]

OHL is far more cooler man

[fervent minnow]

i tried that

[proud tapir]

i like seeing green bubbles without doing anything myself

[fervent minnow]

very fun route but kinda mehhhhhhhh

i'd rather ohl

[proud tapir]

Indeed

[safe wing]

My goal is to kill the USSR first and build and then build a giant navy

[fervent minnow]

yeah and ignoring the casualties

[fervent minnow]

good luck

[jade ore]

no way i starved britians's fuel reserve with 10 battlecruisers

[snow rain]

deal with eco of conquest boy

[proud tapir]

my last run as the ohl had me rushing down the USSR at the start of 1941 without fighting the allies

[snow rain]

check decisions

[proud tapir]

absolutely demolished them

[jade ore]

im not playing the actual game i cba im just making goated battle(ships)cruisers

[fervent minnow]

yeah and thats whats fun you can completely ignore the allies as the empire

[proud tapir]

and i capped them in november so less than a year

[safe wing]

Which I’m doing

[snow rain]

BC can't be goated 🥀
also, you get more buffs with less eco of conquest and more decision clicking with price controls and gold pillaging

[proud tapir]

rushing Poland and the baltics is my way to go as the ohl/kaiser

[jade ore]

i mean i can take on the entire british fleet with the 10 BC's i have rn

[proud tapir]

i mostly ignore France and the UK before i deal with everything east

[jade ore]

also idc about eoc im just watching my ships play lol

[snow rain]

but that's because AI's ass
not because they're good

[snow rain]

less debuffs = more ships

and it's like button pressing level of difficulty

[jade ore]

i dont really mind

[jade ore]

boooringgg

they are meta bc';s trust

[opaque zinc]

When them basic heavy ships ain’t so basic no more😂😂😂😂✌️✌️

[jade ore]

they are sooooooo basic !!!

[safe wing]

Why would you build heavy ships as Germany with mefo

[jade ore]

only 13k IC sooo basic

[safe wing]

I do PEG as Germany

[weak magnet]

hi

[jade ore]

because free will and not everyone plays the game the same

[weak magnet]

how do i declare war if late in game and non-aligned so 0 world tension

i thought la resistance lets me do some funky stuff agains 2 majors but apparently i was wrong so im kinda stuck

[fallen hearth]

my first time managing to invade the uk im happy icl

[jade ore]

holy supply bro

congrats anyway

[fallen hearth]

it was actually easy and supply wasnt a problem

i dunno why

most of the times the supplies were ok

[unkempt zodiac]

guys please just.... help 😭

i built maxxed light cruisers only

i had like 15 and they all still got destroyed

i have 500 fighters on interception 500 on superiority and 1k on nav bombing over the channel too

still lost my entire navy

[jade ore]

15 light cruisers aint gonna do anything

[unkempt zodiac]

how much do i need

[jade ore]

show us the template too

[unkempt zodiac]

just maxed light attack

light attack battery 2 with armor

[jade ore]

i mean u prolly just needed more

ur germany so ez rebuild of navy

[unkempt zodiac]

how many more

[snow rain]

deathstack the SURFACE fleet
go out with air cover if outnumbered heavily

[jade ore]

bro i dont have a set number for you

[snow rain]

adding subs to surface fleets ruins positionning (and thus, their stats)

[jade ore]

true probably

just do the roxuub strat and build battlecruisers

[snow rain]

20 good cruisers do destroy the AI
as long as you have a few ships around it

but it requires you to NOT use subs at the same time in battle and not getting bombed into the sea

[unkempt zodiac]

ok but should i just keep building light cruisders do i need to like build other stuff too

[jade ore]

dont listen to this guy!!!1!!1

[snow rain]

I meant cruisers, not DDs, my bad

only cruisers

[unkempt zodiac]

oh okay

wait give me a sec ill send the design

[jade ore]

my strat superior

[snow rain]

secondary guns everywhere
light cruiser batteries where you can't put secondaries
maxed armor (lvl 2 minimum)
lvl 1 AA in AA slot
firecontrol system

ideally 1940 hull

[jade ore]

lol the italian ai doing the roxuub strat

[jade ore]

1940 hull sucks

[snow rain]

guh?

[jade ore]

u gotta research stuff so thats not good

[snow rain]

1940 cruiser hull is excessively easy to get early on and is best cruiser frame
maybe the best frame in the game in terms of IC-stats

[jade ore]

ye but for 1936 hull u get it straight away

no research required

and can easily win navy war without doing allat

[snow rain]

yes you can
still not the best but you can

[unkempt zodiac]

is this good

[jade ore]

oh wow

[snow rain]

no

[unkempt zodiac]

i just need supremacy for one second btw

im gonna steal their navy after

[jade ore]

replace the light guns for the other things

[unkempt zodiac]

i just need a naval invasion to kick off

[snow rain]

lvl 1 AA max
NO LIGHT BATTERY. Only light cruiser batteries and secondary guns

you need 7 piercing at minimum

8 is ideal but hardly obtainable early

[unkempt zodiac]

i added aa just cus i can but i have alot of fighters should i just not add it

[snow rain]

and add an MIO man ...

[jade ore]

no aa

[snow rain]

aa lvl 1 is enough because of AA calculations

[jade ore]

aa is for noobs

[snow rain]

but it's not even required, I just advise it because it's full-proofing for 60ic

[jade ore]

or just dont die to naval bombers lol

[unkempt zodiac]

is this good

[snow rain]

yes

you can ditch the sonar, no point

[unkempt zodiac]

ok i will

[snow rain]

no depth charge = no point detecting subs

[jade ore]

u dont need armor level 2 aswell i dont use it

[unkempt zodiac]

so do i just build 30 and put on patrol

[snow rain]

armor is good

means less damage from crappy AI screens

[jade ore]

i kill ai navy easy with no armour what

well 1

[snow rain]

you spam BCs ...

[jade ore]

no i legit

[snow rain]

and you tell me no armor

[jade ore]

i only did it once lol

this is my first run doing this

[snow rain]

and yes, you can beat AI navy with no armor
but it's always better to use armor because it means you can take on WAY more AI ships at once

like 2 to 3x more

[jade ore]

at that point just invest in capitals

[unkempt zodiac]

ok but im supposed to put all on patrol right

also which level engage priority 😭

[snow rain]

always engage

[snow rain]

yes, with ALL THE FLEET

except subs

[unkempt zodiac]

ok got it

30 is enough?

[snow rain]

should be if you're not getting bombed

[unkempt zodiac]

okok thanks

[snow rain]

also you need full org

[woven gate]

who is GLUBB bro

[jade ore]

y u disrespecting glubb

[woven gate]

i just need to know who the hell he is

[jade ore]

i bet glubb knows how to take a screenshot on pc 😠

[woven gate]

i bet glubb doesn't know that i use discord on my phone

[jade ore]

i bet glubb would call that a skill issue

[grave sonnet]

He probably does

[vocal bolt]

what route should I go as france

If I wanna expand

[safe wing]

Napoleonic

[vocal bolt]

which is ?

[safe wing]

Monarchist

[vocal bolt]

Do I go popular front or national bloc

[safe wing]

National bloc

Then rally the leagues

Then the council of whatever

Then revise the constitution

[vocal bolt]

am gonna try to decline rhineland

[safe wing]

Don’t

[vocal bolt]

why

they back down most of the time

[safe wing]

It’s not necessary

[vocal bolt]

and then they cant get austria

[safe wing]

They can

It just takes longer

[vocal bolt]

pluh

ill still do it for the love of the game

[safe wing]

Just attack Germany during the Munich conference

Thats what I do

[slow hazel]

guys

[safe wing]

Yes?

[slow hazel]

can anyone teach me how to make actually good infantry and how to beat ussr

i played a germany once literally took all of europe had over 500 divisions and i still good whooped

[safe wing]

18 infantry battalions

Or 36 width infantry

[slow hazel]

i wanna make infantry that just kills a shit ton

[safe wing]

They do

Especially with grand battleplan

[slow hazel]

bro my infantry just goes and dies like hamsters bro

[vocal bolt]

how

its not there

[vocal bolt]

supply

[safe wing]

Do you have La resistance?

[slow hazel]

with max supply

and max equipment

idk im doing something wrong i think

[safe wing]

Line artillery

[vocal bolt]

no

[tough patio]

el salvador cartel army lol

[vocal bolt]

template ?

[safe wing]

That’s what I thought+ I wouldn’t buy that one as it’s going to be intergrated by years end

[slow hazel]

default with an added field hospital

[safe wing]

You need aa and remove the hospital

[vocal bolt]

am I just cooked

[south mountain]

Bruh

[safe wing]

No not necessarily

[slow hazel]

hospital is op asf

[safe wing]

Aa guns are better

They reduce cas damage

[slow hazel]

so im gonna have to produce aa artillery too?

[safe wing]

You should have started at the start of the game

[slow hazel]

imma just make the most offensive infantry known to mankind

[safe wing]

You mean the 36/0

[tough patio]

no this is the most offensive infantry lol

[safe wing]

@heavy vigil 9/4 bad division detected

[tough patio]

i know

[safe wing]

It isn’t its garbage

[silk haven]

guys whats a fun path/nation to play against ai?

[safe wing]

As who?

[tough patio]

i want to see enemy division to buckle under the weight of fire of our arty

i am ww1 pilled

[silk haven]

idrc

suggestions?

[tough patio]

and im pretty sure this is probably the best army el salvador can afford

[safe wing]

Well I can’t help you if you haven’t picked a nation

[tough patio]

my army is the following

[silk haven]

you pick the path and nation

[safe wing]

Democratic king Italy

[tough patio]

the 2 divs you get at the start as ES

the 2 9-4 arties

100 cas

100 heavy fighters

one (1) heavy cruiser i built

[silk haven]

dayum

alr

[tough patio]

@safe wing i melted the honduran armies (32 of our casualties - they lost 2k)

[safe wing]

Its honestly a fun path

You still get the fascist path war goals plus you can still form Rome the eu and greater Italy

Best part is the balance of power no longer triggers civil wars

When you loose territory

[silk haven]

well im pretty new to hoi4 so im curious how this will end

[safe wing]

Just make sure to join the axis before you get the king in power

[silk haven]

only mastered fascist germany

[silk haven]

alr

gonna be my first time playing as italy btw

[slow hazel]

i have an idea...

no but honestly

there is no point for me to have more than 5 generals

may aswell

[silk haven]

fighting ethiopia worth it?

[safe wing]

First time pull out

Just draw a defensive line on the coast

It ain’t really worth it imo

[silk haven]

alr ty

[azure palm]

Germanys AI is so annoying... if you fight against them, they are strong, if you fight with them, they mess up the invasion of france

and poland

I just had to save germany from poland and now they are messing up the invasion of the soviets

[winter badge]

Ai is always on enemy side when in my faction

[azure palm]

for me that isnt even true, the italians are sometimes competent when im allied with them

or the americans, brits and french

[winter badge]

I wish that was for me

My allies are competent only once my puppets

[ripe slate]

@winter badge#server-rules

[azure palm]

what happend?

[weak magnet]

how can i raise world tension enough to 50 from 24

i am non aligned

[winter badge]

Bruh

Seems that president of usa is banned from typing in

This image wasnt even political

[ripe slate]

No discussion or memes about modern politics

[winter badge]

What if it would be in modern day mod

[unkempt zodiac]

bro 😭

[slow hazel]

chat is armored infantry better than normal infantry?

[vocal bolt]

what is armored infantry

space marines ?

[azure palm]

normally by war goals justification, but because youre non aligned I dont think its possible

[weak magnet]

what can i do then

[unkempt zodiac]

yes use spg's

[vocal bolt]

which one should I go with @safe wing

[weak magnet]

mostly it gets till 35-45ish at any given point

[slow hazel]

infantry with like armored trucks

[snow rain]

you didn't have enough
and how about you spend your XP on doctrines ?

[unkempt zodiac]

spgs are amazing

[unkempt zodiac]

ok i had a save before

[vocal bolt]

go with the entente or join allies

[azure palm]

nothing I think. Maybe focuses, but otherwise I dont see a way

[weak magnet]

no focuses since am spain

hmm ok

[unkempt zodiac]

i had like 15

[weak magnet]

maybe i must restart and be more aggressive

[vocal bolt]

mechanized is better than motorized if you have the industry for it

[unkempt zodiac]

and i did doctrines wait im gonna try again

[snow rain]

not enough

I told you 30

[heavy vigil]

hii

[unkempt zodiac]

ok wait im gonna try to make it work before the us joins

[vocal bolt]

I love refusing rhinaland

its 38 and germany still doesnt have austria

[fallen hearth]

time to lose against urss

[fair horizon]

I must try this immediately

[halcyon pasture]

the revolt of

[fair horizon]

czechoslovokia players i wish you a very demand sudetenland

this was my dlc slot and you took it

[ripe slate]

what?

[fair horizon]

they pushed back the australia dlc for the czech dlc

[ripe slate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/578538380472745985.webp?size=64

[tough patio]

yeah ive been doing the funny

9 inf 4 arty

with 1 support arty

im in the process of taking over central america, my current war with costa rica is 2 days in and i am already in their capital and their army is being dismantled

[fair horizon]

how to do subs right (the ai still thinks 8 destroyers can stop them)

[strong umbra]

w hoi4

kingdom of the south is in the north

[vocal bolt]

idiot ai

I was winning against germany as france

then latvia declared on ussr

bc screw the allies I guess

[fair horizon]

based latvia

[safe wing]

What happened?

[vocal bolt]

like I said

latvia declared on ussr for some reason

now am tryna singlehandedly fight everyone bc uk isnt doing anything

[safe wing]

Why did you join the allies

[vocal bolt]

am france

why not

[safe wing]

As napoleonic France I have my own faction

[heavy vigil]

?

[vocal bolt]

also uk so weird

all their troops are portecting ports

while the frontline is crumbling

[fair horizon]

you cant do this to me

definitely a nz player made that meme

[strong umbra]

what about mandatory Palestine players?

[fair horizon]

they're not even a colony wym about them

[safe wing]

What about Saudi Arabia players

[strong umbra]

what about island players

btw actual 1952 Texas governor elections

[uncut pollen]

So modern politics huh?

[strong umbra]

wow

more than 3 kids exist

I've only ever seen Casey livdeia and marijn exist

[strong umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/retro-mario-bigfoot-sighting-so-retro-gif-11777632049004869402

[uncut pollen]

No nodern politics

[strong umbra]

what

this is NOT moder

n

[uncut pollen]

Everything after ww2 is modern politics

[uncut pollen]

After ww2

[strong umbra]

fine then

[strong umbra]

I shall talk about the 1944 presidential race

I do love Thomas E. dewey

I prefer him over FDR

Thomas e Dewey was the GOAT

Sadly he did not get elected

is this in hoi4?

the 1944 elections

to keep it on topic

the elections of 44

?

[steel zephyr]

happened three times now

romania transylvania event three times at once

the third time is when i actualy got it

[heavy vigil]

liv isnt even a mod

anyway, the rules are in #server-rules :) please act with respect and kindness towards your compatriots

[woven gate]

FDR SWEEP BABY

NEW DEAL ON TOP

[slim idol]

Wait there isn't a rule against politics after WW2

What did he do wrong then

[woven gate]

https://tenor.com/view/fdr-deal-with-it-franklin-d-roosevelt-gif-11797940

[heavy vigil]

[Rule 2 - Avoid Controversial Topics]
⮞ Avoid discussing real-life religion, politics, or controversial topics.

[Rule 5 - Appropriate Content]
⮞ Keep all content and symbols appropriate for all ages and avoid any sexually explicit or politically charged material.

[Rule 4 - Profile Compliance]
⮞ Please note that our rules prohibit the inclusion of political or controversial figures/symbols in your profile. Also, the analysis of political leaders only pertains to those who held positions of power after World War II.

[quiet vessel]

invading czechoslovakia as hungary is my heaven

[strong umbra]

ah shes a helper

[strong umbra]

what exactly does rule 4 mean

[slim idol]

The lone soldier who fought after doesn't pertain to any of those tho

[strong umbra]

am I or am not allowed to discuss post ww2 politcs

[strong umbra]

what if im talking about a Vietnam war mod

that could be seen as controversial yet also not controver

sial

[heavy vigil]

then youd have to censor out anything relating to modern politics such as politicians, war criminals.

[heavy vigil]

read the subtext of it - it explains what on this server is defined as modern politicians.

[strong umbra]

am I allowed to mention the united nations and its bodies of legislation?

[heavy vigil]

as long as it isnt controversial and no politicians are mentioned, so technically yes but practically likely not.

[strong umbra]

does that extend to the league of nations aswell?

and what military treaty pacts such as warsaw pact csto and nato

[heavy vigil]

that is a organization that disbanded before world war 2; the politicians do not qualify as "modern" but controversiality may still apply.

[slim idol]

It disbanded after WW2 started

Because of the winter war right?

[strong umbra]

what about for example Charles de Gaulle he was French general during ww2 and also politician after ww2

or jean de lattre de tassigny who served during ww2 but also the Vietnam rebellion

[heavy vigil]

we request you do not discuss his politics then.

[strong umbra]

so I can talk about his military actions in French Indochina which happens after ww2

[heavy vigil]

you could probably talk about the military actions? this chat should be hoi4 related though :> so more like your campaigns in a cold war mod more likely

[strong umbra]

my main concern is is it controversial?

[heavy vigil]

think within reason, if it is a modern conflict (post ww2) then likely you should avoid discussions about it, its fine if it relates to your campaign, but the rules are strict otherwise to prevent any unnecessary arguing/fighting/toxicity in this server and hopefully community

[strong umbra]

what about the stasi or the nkvd?

they are in game hoi4 national spirits

but people may have ptsd from it

[heavy vigil]

you can discuss them in relation to the game

[strong umbra]

what about wernher von braun

is talking about stalin allowed

or kruschev

he is an advisor

for the ussr

[heavy vigil]

in relation to the game

well, im really tired so ill ask you to move onto a different topic :> i hope ive cleared some of your questions and if you have further doubts, i inquire you to make a ticket or ask another time :)

[limber arrow]

How do i unlock irregular and millita divisions

[strong umbra]

STALIN DOES A LOT OF PURGES THAT PURGE A LOT OF GOOD MEN SUCH As TUCHACHEVSKY

[strong umbra]

be ccp

[limber arrow]

So i cannot unlock it if im not communist china

[strong umbra]

Swiss citizen militia

germany pick Hitler reichleiter right path

u get a militia template

[limber arrow]

Yeah but except those

[strong umbra]

camicia nere I think

[limber arrow]

I have unlocked a milita as manchuko but i can't modify the template

How do i unlock it

[strong umbra]

u never can

u cant modify militia templates

never

[limber arrow]

So basically no irregulars or militas

[strong umbra]

u can if ur like Ethiopia or ccp

but thats about it

[limber arrow]

Alr

[slim idol]

You can modify Swiss militia by decisions

[limber arrow]

Dumb question but does Infantry and cavalry in the same template work

Even if its not recommended

[strong umbra]

yes

u can do whatever

[limber arrow]

Is it worth it tho

[strong umbra]

no

never do cavalry

[slim idol]

I think the only restrictions for using certain things together is support companies

[strong umbra]

ye

[limber arrow]

Alright

[strong umbra]

but thats only like

no motorized mp and regular mp

[slim idol]

It's like certain recons

[strong umbra]

like hose omes

[strong umbra]

ye

also

[light bough]

Angetreten

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/hearts-of-iron-4-your-hoi4-hoika-never-lose-your-hoi4-hoi4-gif-3320429921834272528

[unique cliff]

What to do with the starting navy now? Japan, USA, UK
Do I stack it into one big fleet? Do I keep it in groups after the naval changes?

[halcyon pasture]

whar

[fair horizon]

make task forces and then make scouting fleets for them

or ball it into one and hunt down enemy fleets

[unique cliff]

If I play a poor nation, is it better to do inf+planes or inf+tanks?

Or just focus on infantry and some special forces

[fair horizon]

if you're poor you cant afford to do planes

special forces and tanks is my preferred but if you have manpower you can do speical forces and infantry

[fair horizon]

do they still have hawaii or something?

[astral shale]

When are they fixing the Wolfpack doctrine

[woven gate]

are you a canada main too

[halcyon pasture]

AI losing autonomy in the war lmao

[woven gate]

PLEASE TELL ME IM NOT THE ONLY CANADA MAIN

[graceful lintel]

As a Nova Scotian I'm obligated to say I am, and also we get naval invaded all the time in real life too, we just aren't told about it.

[woven gate]

can i move up north perhaps

[fair horizon]

You are

Im an australia main so we can be commiewealth buddies

[woven gate]

hell yeah buddy

[azure seal]

why did germany do danzig for slovakia in historical???

[woven gate]

what'd you do bro

[azure seal]

im playing as napoleonic france

all i did was take the benelux

and germany did danzig for slovaka

[woven gate]

they do that

napoleonic france is fun asl

[azure seal]

why

[woven gate]

may i suggest the air dominance focus

[azure seal]

why do they do that

[woven gate]

no clue

they do it when i play too

[fair horizon]

Once you do an ahistorical path the ai stops being historical

[woven gate]

this might be the best focus in the game ngl

they should give it to Canada

[calm delta]

Sup people

[calm delta]

Yo K how are you

[woven gate]

good, just dealing with a nasty headache how about you

[calm delta]

Yh I’m okay just miss this girl I liked I messed up and I regret it so bad

[calm delta]

Hope you feel better

[woven gate]

i get that

[rapid furnace]

poor poland

[calm delta]

Yh

It’s hard isn’t it

[woven gate]

like i said though, there's only one way to go and that's forwards

[calm delta]

Yh

[woven gate]

i found a general just named glubb

in the WWI mod

i laughed for probably 15 minutes straight

because glubb took ~400,000 deaths

[scenic coral]

how is this historical ai?

[cedar kite]

yes

[fair horizon]

You took an ahistorical path didnt you?

[polar radish]

What’s the Bulgaria focus that lets you get all the bs ass compliance

[scenic coral]

i went the Kumul Khanate route when you go to war with the kotan ma

[smoky prairie]

Does anyone have recommendations for nation overhaul mods? Looking for something that adds lots of events for various paths/reworks focuses/internal stuff for any specific major nation.

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon would be a shame if i touched your boats :3

[woven gate]

the third empire i think

[harsh ocean]

does anyone know if theres a way to appeal a ban on the discardian discord server?

[clear turtle]

/dʒæbɒtɪˈkɑːbə/!!!

[fair horizon]

Warships of the pacific is giving shinano its own model

[fair horizon]

Play EAW

[vital cove]

does eaw have ships

[tulip thorn]

Yes

Several large oceans to fight in aswell

And fairly expanded naval tech

[faint fiber]

why would....how would...why?! why is this in the game?!

[tulip thorn]

Because its Tfr

[faint fiber]

but why

[tulip thorn]

because its tfr

I'd be more shocked if they didnt have that

[faint fiber]

since when are rednecks organized?!

[tulip thorn]

Because tfr is tfr

[faint fiber]

gross

[maiden bolt]

Napoleon VI

[tulip thorn]

I hate how big italy got