hoi4-general

[proud tapir]

modern day: the fire rises, Novum Vexillum lacks content but is the only good "normal" modern day mod

tfr is good, but its a schizo mod

so its up to taste

dont even think about playing mill@nium d€wn

[grave sonnet]

MIDlenium Dawn

[vital mirage]

yea dw and the novum is good and wont take 7 to 10y to finish?

i will try that mode its looking good

[grave sonnet]

Play Iraq

[proud tapir]

its basicaly millennium dawn before it merged with the modern day mod. Old MD.

It has vanilla economy and less bloated

however

it does lack content

that is fixed by a submod

i forgot its name but

[grave sonnet]

Submods saving the day

[vital mirage]

something with world right?

[proud tapir]

novum vexillum has a submod thats basicaly a playground for what the devs plan to add to the main game

[proud tapir]

i think so

something like that

[vital mirage]

so ik that mods nice

[proud tapir]

overall theres only really two proper modern day mods

one sucks

(MD)

and the other one, NV is better but needs more content

TFR is a schizo mod

but a good one

[vital mirage]

k ty

just to be sure is 1 gameplay taking 7 to 10y?

[grave sonnet]

Ion think so

[grave sonnet]

Apart from the Schizophrenia it's a good mod

[proud tapir]

oh yeah red dusk

i also know about red flood but

never played it

or really watched much about the mod

[grave sonnet]

Red flood is amazing

I played Austria

[proud tapir]

i just know the mod by the name

heard its good

[vital mirage]

red flood is to easy ngl i get to 500 unit in 1939 as France (the normal focus not napoleon)

[proud tapir]

quick tip about infantry templates for Novum Vexillum

Millitia suck, your main infantry should be motorized infantry

think of motorized infantry as your normal infantry blocks from vanilla

[vital mirage]

okey

[proud tapir]

any questions about NV, you can ask in their discord

[vital mirage]

oh right true

[proud tapir]

if you end up loving the mod

i think its pretty decent

[vital mirage]

okey ty for the help

[proud tapir]

np

[vital cove]

tfr ui 🚮

[proud tapir]

purple portraits do go hard tho

[vital cove]

the focus trees are so ugly

[proud tapir]

Still not TNO level of ugly

(UI in general)

[crisp wyvern]

i hate and love playing in update 1.16.10

[proud tapir]

Man do i hate TNO UI design

[crisp wyvern]

one thing I hate is that my entire mod list is held together with duct tape and prayers

and if I change it to be update 1.17.3, entire thing blows up or breaks something

[grave sonnet]

TFR leaders hitting the shades after winning a war is the funniest shi ever

[violet veldt]

Real

Idk i dont like tfrr tbh

Doctrines confuse me

[atomic grove]

how so

[violet veldt]

Terrain penalties

[atomic grove]

its the old doctrine system

[violet veldt]

Confused me before

[atomic grove]

oh

[violet veldt]

Like whats for what😭

And russia too op

Russia once sent vols to texas on my apla game and like... yeah

They were fascist

[grave sonnet]

Russia's a superpower for a reason gang

[violet veldt]

Idkk

Oil

Big land

I hate how russia colonized siberia💔

[grave sonnet]

True Russian volunteers are good

[grave sonnet]

I got a russian tank division vol as the PF

It was extremely good

[grave sonnet]

The tzardom conquered it you can't rly change anything bout it

[violet veldt]

I can complain

[grave sonnet]

It's a mod set in modern times not 1200

[violet veldt]

But like💔

Siberiaa

I love siberia

They should give siberia independenceee ughh

[grave sonnet]

Go play TNO if you like Siberia

[violet veldt]

Ik it will never happen but let me dream

[grave sonnet]

They have an Anarchist Black Army there I'm pretty sure

[vital mirage]

uh last question what start date is better 2000 or 2016?

[mental mantle]

Why does my hoi4 not launch when I uninstall it?

[ripe slate]

...

[quick flax]

sole export: permafrost

[proud tapir]

2000

2016 is unfinished

and unstable

[vital mirage]

Ty but is 2016 could be fun? Or its just 1939 main hoi4

[proud tapir]

you can try it if you want to

[vital mirage]

Okey ty

[heavy vigil]

mod development started in 2016 btw

[cedar lance]

im good aswell

went to barber today and bought new shoes

[heavy vigil]

new marko?? wow

[safe wing]

@heavy vigil Afghan Mughals or RAJ Mughals?

Because I’m thinking of playing the latter

[heavy vigil]

ive only played communist raj a few times idk any of their paths idk if its fun

too OP for me

communist is also OP but yk

vibes

[ripe slate]

👀

[hybrid frigate]

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[frank parcel]

How do i do this focus? Like it wont auto start

[ripe slate]

Youve locked yourself out

Only Speer can do his focus now

[frank parcel]

Bruh

Well well

[safe wing]

Todts better than Speer though

Better bonuses

[frank parcel]

i didnt want any of them

i wanted the other guy

goring

i thought they would shoot him or something when he was removed from the inner circle

[safe wing]

they don't

he just gets demoted

[frank parcel]

can i remove goring then add him back to get his focus?

[safe wing]

I think you can

[dapper orchid]

KX, what is going on

[weary lagoon]

any other mods you have?

[safe wing]

Black Monday

[forest isle]

hey guys does anyone know why Japan insta capped when i naval invaded Nagasaki

[safe wing]

because they do that

[forest isle]

it happens every playthrough?

[safe wing]

On historical yes

[forest isle]

oh cool

what does that

is it a national spirit or focus

[safe wing]

It’s to represent Japans surrender at the end of ww2

[safe wing]

A focus

[frank parcel]

Love having 0 civs

[crisp wyvern]

Hetalia is genuinely haunting my ass

https://tenor.com/view/romano-romano-hetalia-hetalia-romano-south-italy-hetalia-hetalia-south-italy-gif-9129757480514945699

[dapper orchid]

Way past that

[dapper orchid]

Not that i know of

This is so dumb

[fair horizon]

wait why

that makes no sense

[manic wave]

hi guys

[dapper orchid]

Make its Kaiserredux or i just came across some true Paradox jank

[void eagle]

what

[crisp wyvern]

thought it was the alien Raj instead of the human raj

[winter badge]

Green grass

[void eagle]

why is it human raj bro

[high nest]

hello, how long it takes to learn basics of hoi4?

[frank parcel]

How do i get rid of this crap? Like it uses 100% of my civs

Worst thing ever

[fringe shell]

nah thats crazy

i forgot about france

and left open border

and they didnt even moved

like bro i already landed in uk

[winter badge]

Bro 💀

[winter badge]

Ze 100 godzin na podstawy

[high nest]

długoo

a co tutaj zrobić?

[frank parcel]

I dont understand the point of an economy law that you cant remove which literally forces you to surrender, like i havent produced shit in a year

[safe wing]

If Luxembourg had a monarchist path they would probably have the ability to puppet and core Hungary

Because of Sigusmund of Hungary

And also be able to reform the HRE too

Also the Austrian Hapsburg path should have had a reform HRE path

[solemn flume]

PDX on their way to finding another way to break italy:

What you're seeing are ghost divisions, belonging to a country that no longer exists

[winter badge]

Erm

[inland falcon]

kinda funny how lithuania can form the polish-lithuanian commonwealth, estonia can unite with finland, and all latvia can do is bounce on it crazy style for germany

[winter badge]

Its exclusive for germany and it isnt normal economy law

[trim lotus]

Is the faction they're in (presumably Axis) still fighting? They may still exist as a government in exile.

[solemn flume]

No, the country has capitulated and is fully annexed, it doesn't exist on the map

Not on the map, not in the country list

[trim lotus]

So, a peace deal was reached, etc?

[winter badge]

This gives you bonuses but every month procent of consumer goods rises and conquering others lets you use their gold to decrease it, if you dont want it you have to remove it at any monet through decisions

[solemn flume]

yes

I presume this happened because the peace deal happened the same day the civil war started (was supposed to start)
previously this wasn't an issue, but i suppose pdx broke italy again

[fringe shell]

yo why cant i do anshlush its 39 already??

[trim lotus]

but isn't it always fun to have a country which, when defeated in a three-way war, suddenly spawns you a puppet which inherits all of italy's old warscore against the third enemy?

[graceful kayak]

why tf is this always false? i cant form the holy roman empire without it

[safe wing]

Because they aren’t normal puppets

[graceful kayak]

is there a way around or nah

[safe wing]

No

Unfortunately

[heavy vigil]

oh

thats kinda uncommon

but it happens when divs are in another country sometimes

[high nest]

Casey come "ask for help"

[safe wing]

Casey have you played any of the total war games?

They are like 4 usd on gog atm

[heavy vigil]

im tired

[heavy vigil]

i have not

[safe wing]

You would love them

Rome total war and Medivial 2 still hold up 20+ years later

[strong umbra]

stalinium is no morre

[safe citrus]

hello, i was playing on rt56 germany, and after the civil war ended my kaiser focus tree disappeared and got this one instead . is this normal? i have played as german empire on rt56 before and idk what really happened. am i stupid , is my hoi4 stupid

[safe citrus]

yeah im gay

happy?

[frank parcel]

Can i give reichskommissariat Ukraine the rest of Ukraine? Like it isnt a decision

[night field]

which do i pick?

[hollow silo]

depends on the path you wanna play

[flint widget]

i think national unity unlocks left side

littorio is the most beautiful battleship

[safe citrus]

This person speaks the truth

[faint fiber]

and this is why China cant have nice things

and how the hell would Buddhism add negative stability?

[sudden thistle]

Idk much about the Qing, but maybe because it isn’t at their major religion?

Maybe the Qing government just doesn’t like Buddhist people

I think they were Han?

[faint fiber]

thats not a religion

[sudden thistle]

I’m pretty sure it is

[faint fiber]

Han is not a religion

[flint widget]

yeah its not

there are different sort of nationalities of chinese

han is one of them

[safe citrus]

Anyone?

[flint widget]

try https://discordapp.com/channels/183787140671471616/589311099674034176

[safe wing]

Qing were Confucian

[vital cove]

that's also not really a religion

[safe wing]

As were all Chinese dynasty’s

[safe wing]

True

[faint fiber]

yes and no

Cixi was a Buddhist

[safe citrus]

yay i cant progress because the game is stupid

[safe wing]

That’s why I don’t play rt56

The alt history Germany paths are as fine as they are

I don’t need to play a million mini games to get rid of Hitler and get the Kaiser back

Gameplay > realism

[faint fiber]

skill issue

[safe wing]

No it’s just needless bloat

[grim merlin]

classic

[safe wing]

Because Buddhism wasn’t the main Chinese religion or teaching

[indigo granite]

Japan stole my france bro 😭

[safe wing]

It was Confucianism or Taoism

[faint fiber]

Confucianism isnt even in the game for some reason

[safe wing]

It is but not stated

Assuming China isn’t communist

[faint fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/comunisto-dogo-gif-15433861177915232836

[safe wing]

Mao cracked down and destroyed a lot of Chinas past

[faint fiber]

thats because Mao was insane

[safe wing]

Pretty much

[faint fiber]

all communist leaders were insane except for maybe Marx himself

[restive sable]

cultural revolution iirc

[safe wing]

Marx was insane as he was a drunkard tbh

[fair horizon]

EAW is a decently fun mod ngl

EAW ajenda pushers you win i caved

[faint fiber]

and so was like half the people in the 1800s

what else was there to do besides drink?

[safe wing]

A lot

[faint fiber]

if you were rich

[safe wing]

Marx didn’t even pay his house keeper

[faint fiber]

and you are surprised?

Lenin treated his like a slave

[safe wing]

Not really but I don’t understand why people idolize them

[azure palm]

Isnt the guarda assalto or how its called better to choose in the spanish civil war than the guarda civil?

[safe wing]

Also no Marxist revolution has succeeded in a industrialized society

Marx himself predicted Russia would be the last place it would happen because of how backwards it was in his eyes

[faint fiber]

well he wasnt wrong on it being backwards

[safe wing]

Russia was 100 years behind the rest of Europe except maybe Albania

[faint fiber]

yep

[fair horizon]

I like the more unit one

[winter badge]

What mod is that

[lethal ether]

novum vexillum

[winter badge]

Thx

[lethal ether]

i was kidding

[azure palm]

yeah but its the same amount of batalions I think but the guarda assalto is better trained

[faint fiber]

rise of nations, but I modded it

[lethal ether]

thats a modern day mod

[azure palm]

rise of nations, no?

[winter badge]

😭

[azure palm]

never mind

doesnt look like rise of nations

[winter badge]

Thx (I hope)

[fair horizon]

This is the spanish civil war right?

[azure palm]

yes

[fair horizon]

One gives smaller divs but mote of them iirc if you're going republican side

[azure palm]

yes, the guarda civil gives more divisions, but actually the same amount of infantry batalions

[winter badge]

Lot of cores

[azure palm]

but the guarda assalto has better trained ones

[fair horizon]

Yeah do that one

[lethal ether]

cores should not be this easy to get

[fair horizon]

Guarda assaulto gives like 3 vs 6

6 units is 6 tiles

[faint fiber]

I was tired of Tannu Tuva only have 1 core

[lethal ether]

guys, historically, did the luftwaffe fight at normandy??

[faint fiber]

its not easy to get

[azure palm]

probably

[lethal ether]

i saw some youtube video saying they didnt appear at all

[safe wing]

I don’t think so but if they did it would be minimal at best

[azure palm]

I think they didnt fly a lot, but they definitely flew

[safe wing]

Given that their airforce was gutted by 1944

[fair horizon]

Not really, germany did that really dumb thing where they tried to fight britian's air force and lost so

[azure palm]

Its AI overview but something like that

[fair horizon]

Battle of britian and stuff

[safe wing]

Army group center only had 40 fighters left to defend it by 1944

[lethal ether]

it was only 20% of their planes

that they lost

[fair horizon]

Wasnt it only like 5-7 battleships? Hardly an armada imo

[azure palm]

only

[fair horizon]

And how many experienced aviators?

[safe wing]

The us and uk bombing raids tied up a ton of Germanys airforce

[lethal ether]

well 20% isnt 100%

[azure palm]

still a fifth

[safe wing]

And killed a lot of their best pilots too

[azure palm]

okay its 100% rise of nations

except that leader

[visual pasture]

meat wall div... they will never go thru it

[azure palm]

im not sure about that one

[faint fiber]

why would I lie?

[fair horizon]

Hige reason japan lost in the pacific too, they couldnt sustain the losses like the allies could

[safe wing]

You beat me to it

[lethal ether]

is rise of nations playable now?

[azure palm]

it has been for a while, no?

[safe wing]

Funny that Qookie that insufferable pole with the anime pfp defended Japan

[fair horizon]

meanwhile the usa was training new pilots in the great lakes with sable and wolverine

[lethal ether]

idk last time i played a few months ago focus trees were all messed up

[azure palm]

but this definitely is rise of nations

I played it so many times, it has to be

[safe wing]

Hey in the unlikely event he rejoins we should all bully him off again

[lethal ether]

some context?

[safe wing]

@lethal ether this guy

He was rude

[lethal ether]

why make such a big deal out of some ragebaiter

[safe wing]

Fair

[winter badge]

What

[safe wing]

He said to someone that lost family to Japan in WWII that they were biased because it didn’t fit his views on them

[lethal ether]

ok now that deserves to be made a big deal out of

[winter badge]

Is he japan glazer

[safe wing]

Yeah

Because he likes anime

He even had Eren Jager as his pfp and liked his ideals

Which is really cringe

[winter badge]

Im not particulary fond of people with anime pfp

[safe wing]

Same

[lethal ether]

make a petition to transport these people in the soviet hoi4 manpower pool pls

[winter badge]

I mean there are some that just want to show some favorite character but there are also these that can't escape basement and get some random anime on pfp

[safe wing]

My pfp meanwhile is from a now dated bbc dinosaur documentary from 2000

[winter badge]

Goated

My is some random hussar i found on internet and found it nice

[lethal ether]

mine was a gif 3 years ago but my subscription ran out and i havent changed it since

[winter badge]

Kinda miss my old account

Pfp and name were also hussars tho

[safe wing]

Same I miss my 3 old accounts

I deleted all of them out of depression

[winter badge]

I wrote as joke that im 1 year old and dc banned me for that 😭

[safe wing]

All were lost because of how depressed I get during winter

[lethal ether]

winter is most depressing time ever

the grind never stops

[winter badge]

Btw this guy you were talking about, what was his deal in that screenshot

[winter badge]

In poland its best season for me

[safe wing]

He basically made fun of me for liking Rome and wwii on a wwii discord server

[winter badge]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[winter badge]

He never left east

[lethal ether]

some people lack necessary braincells in order to achieve a somewhat meaningful logic

[winter badge]

This guy was definition of Ak 47 vs 47 chromosomes

[fair horizon]

I still have the disk somewhere, Walking with dinosaurs: the ballad of big al

Always loved the part where his ghost walks around the museum

[safe wing]

I remember watching it too

[faint fiber]

perfectly balanced

[lethal ether]

hoi4 needs multiple way of increasing population

it should sit right on the border of being unrealistic but not really cross it

[faint fiber]

this isnt realistic, the Boxers never fought the imperial army

[winter badge]

True

[clear dagger]

historical inaccuracy?

in my hoi4 game?

[faint fiber]

yes

[clear dagger]

the west has fallen

[faint fiber]

idk why Cixi was stupid enough to support them

[safe wing]

Desperation

[winter badge]

I mean boxers didnt like quing dynasty that much since after china lost first opium war they made many treaties that favourited europeans over chinese

[faint fiber]

can China go 5 minutes without setting on fire

[winter badge]

Ye

As communist

Since there fire isnt allowed

[faint fiber]

smartass

[fathom oyster]

I just bought three dlc's battle for the Bosporus, graveyard of empires and trial of allegiance

[dawn mango]

did yall like the new map update

[safe wing]

This looks if it was a meme or something that aged poorly

Because China and Brazil to name just a few don’t use those flags anymore

[grave sonnet]

Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia in Congo 💔

[fair horizon]

Destiny? Manifested

[grave sonnet]

'Murica ☝🏼

[fair horizon]

Is that gup?

[faint fiber]

yes

well then, pick your poison, nazis or communists

[grave sonnet]

This edit made hoi4 popular by like 200%

[fair horizon]

Commies give me free 500 manpower a week so them

[wise spire]

Hi

[rain loom]

i dont know who to play as anyone got recommendations?

[fair horizon]

South africa

[sudden thistle]

Fascist South Africa

Join axis

[rain loom]

ah

[fair horizon]

Its a country in south africa?

[sudden thistle]

And do the crusader kings achievements

[fair horizon]

Like wym explain

Go play it

[rain loom]

mb mb

im being stupid

i meant to say which path

but nvm

[grave sonnet]

Niceee

[sudden thistle]

I was playing geoguessr with a friend a while ago

I said South Africa and she asked where it was

😭

[fair horizon]

Average american btw

[fair horizon]

Commie

[rain loom]

ooh ok

[clear dagger]

"france is a state"

[winged field]

Is it worth getting hoi 3? if anyone played that before

[fair horizon]

France is like smaller than my state iirc

[safe wing]

It is but not a us state it’s a state as in nation sense

[fair horizon]

Im Iowa and im not sure if its true but its probably most definitely true

[clear dagger]

we should do a coalition against france like iraq but the mission is to sink france

[rain loom]

im down for that

[fair horizon]

Thats gonna be a tough one but i think we can pull it off

[clear dagger]

not sure if iowa is bigger but i think texas is or about the same size

[fair horizon]

Might have to take out the rest of the lowlands too just incase since they also speak a funny language

And its almost french but not quite

[safe wing]

France is the same size as Brazil I thought

Okay I was wrong

It’s the size of Texas

[clear dagger]

brazil is huge

wha

[safe wing]

Can you fact check if Vermont my home state is the size of Sicily

Because I read that once and I’m not sure if it’s true

[fair horizon]

Iowa is smaller than the netherlands im gonna cry

Guys i trusted the google ai

I am very dumb

[clear dagger]

well my browser ai said its 3x bigger than the netherlands wha

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866746185456549900/1431870854744113313/smarter.gif

[fair horizon]

What is this crap

Anyways midwest best

[mint adder]

Are there people who still think hoi4 player stereotypes are still funny

[fair horizon]

Yes

[wise spire]

So, I have 1 million losses and they have 8-9 million.

[winged field]

soviets trying not to be useless level Italy

[wise spire]

I started the war on March 1st, but the screenshot shows March 5th.

1.8 million people died in 4 days

[prisma saddle]

what i created😭

[winged field]

They need to buff ai fr

At least the ussr and German one

[wise spire]

They withdrew 50 divisions to the Chernihiv, and I simply broke through the places where 2-3 divisions remained.

[wise spire]

At the beginning of the war they had 500-550 divisions, and by the end there were only 60 left💔💔🥀

[dusky burrow]

Fun fact: You can attack Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man, and Liverpool with the same naval invasion order

clearer image for those that can see

[dusky burrow]

Minecraft lmao

[safe wing]

Yes

[strong umbra]

wut

wtf is that

is it modded or amerikabomber or wut

[woven dragon]

Respond to this post with a “✅ “ if you agree.
France should be forcibly removed from Europe

(If anyone has a mod in which this is true I will use it forever)

[hot hatch]

airball

[woven dragon]

But they should though

[kindred portal]

Hello which dlcs would you recommend first ?

[clear dagger]

new focus for every country in europe: Nuke France and every tile france owns gets nuked

[craggy trail]

Very modded

[woven dragon]

No Step Back and Götterdamerung

[silk fern]

I know there was a mod for it at some point, but I doubt it has been updated in years

[kindred portal]

What if I'm french ?

[woven dragon]

How sad

[kindred portal]

Only la resistance dlc is for France ?

[prisma saddle]

if i wnat a decent navy that can make damage to the royal navy what i need to do and how i need to compose it?

[silk fern]

Yes, focus trees are kinda mid tho

[kindred portal]

Is napoleon in base game or do I need the dlc ?

[silk fern]

Need the dlc for napoleon

[kindred portal]

Definitely not mid then

🇫🇷🇫🇷

[safe wing]

Should I play democratic king Italy or Imperial Germany when I get home

[strong umbra]

bba is also nice

wouldnt bur resistance cuz they're most likely gonna integrate that into base game

[safe wing]

BBAs good stuff are steal ships , Italian focus tree and plane designer

[strong umbra]

exactly

also like the other peace deal thingies

resourse rights take civs

demil

[safe wing]

Love balkanizing Russia as Imperial Germany

Or balkanizing Germany as monarchist Italy turned Rome

[strong umbra]

ok

https://tenor.com/view/okily-dokily-ned-flanders-gif-13092937

[safe wing]

And taking their resources and factories too

[lethal ether]

imperial

[safe wing]

Will do

But should I revive breast litovsk or befriend everyone

[strong umbra]

gotterdammerung is best decision ur gonna buy one

but just buy subscription

[strong umbra]

u get special projects plus good Hungary tree

[safe wing]

Also I will be doing PEG as Imperial Germany

[strong umbra]

alt hid ger

[strong umbra]

u always do that

[safe wing]

Because MEFO is bad as alt hist Germany

[strong umbra]

child be good

but u have to be ultra aggro

Spartacus league could work

with the puppets

[safe wing]

True but the civil war slows you down

[strong umbra]

ye

I always go heed von neurath as germany is that just me?

[safe wing]

I do it too

[lethal ether]

revive

[flint widget]

has anyone noticed ai uk always leaving the home waters open? This has happened in a few games now. All i did was put their med fleet into repair

ai germany has gone and sealioned now

[safe wing]

It’s the hoi4 ai of course its gonna be stupid like most strategy game ai’s

[flint widget]

but its like it has no idea how to use navy since the last update

ive also noticed usa not having any fleet in the pacific

[safe wing]

Don’t get me started on the on how stupid ai Sicily is in Medivial 2

[safe wing]

Interesting i had some similar happen in 2022 as the Qing if i remember correctly

When I built a mega Qing fleet and fought the British

USA didn’t send ships over because Germany was still fighting them

What’s worse is that the USA ai didn’t build ships other than convoys

[azure palm]

empire of brazil, greater USA, quing, big russia-ottoman empire and apparently big france and a few other things

[safe wing]

How the hell would the Qing survive until 2012

[dawn mango]

rome survived 1000 years so idk

[azure palm]

which one

the city

the second one

the third one

the holy one

the republic one

[silk fern]

Only 1 Rome

[azure palm]

the empire one

[dawn mango]

yk the republic city and empire are the same

[safe wing]

A lot more political stuff happend between 1900-2012 compared to 27 bc - 1453 ad

[dawn mango]

changing the ideology does NOT change rome

[azure palm]

no, the republic and empire are basically the same, but the city is very different

I wouldnt say that the roman empire still exists, would I?

[dawn mango]

its if chinese people didnt like opium timeline

[safe wing]

Republic and empire were extremely different

[dawn mango]

still same country

[azure palm]

still the same nation kinda

[safe wing]

Qing would still collapse later

[dawn mango]

yea idk who made this map and what they were thinking

[safe wing]

Because of ideas like liberalism, nationalism, and socialism to name a few as they would be imported from the west

[azure palm]

average hoi4 non historical game tbh

[compact void]

hey guys im kinda new to the game i would like to be in vc to just talk while i play the game or teeach me something

[safe wing]

I might play imperial Germany realisticly

Like no reviving Austria Hungary because it’s dumb

[azure palm]

I made a whole video series on it... it was kinda painfull

but will you go empire or kaiserreich?

[safe wing]

Empire but annexing Austria and Bohemia

And reinstate Brest litovsk too

[azure palm]

oh so aggressive?

[woven gate]

bunnies

wrong server sorry

[azure palm]

I started to go kaiserreich because its fun

and the flag is nice

[safe wing]

True

[azure palm]

it kinda fits here too

[still ruin]

do any bombers or aircraft (CAS) actually cause damage/org loss on enemy units or are they just soft attack bonus

[woven gate]

i forgot how chill this server is

[still ruin]

i havent done enough planes in this game so i dont quite know

[azure palm]

it isnt

[woven gate]

compared to the wt server it is

[flint widget]

it does both

[azure palm]

okay but they also leak military documents

[woven gate]

they're also racist and femboys

[agile perch]

why does it say i got DlCS which i dont have

i only bought the finland one why i got the german one

[azure palm]

send screenshot

[agile perch]

i got all of these

[jaunty grail]

when i try declare war why does it only let me declare on up to 5 provinces? how do i declare war on the whole country

[agile perch]

i only bought the finland one i thought

[azure palm]

did you buy the bundle?

[agile perch]

i dont think so no

[azure palm]

you can only justify on maximum 5 states

[vital cove]

justification is irrelevant

[azure palm]

you still declare war on the whole country

[azure palm]

it isnt

[vital cove]

it doesn't matter which state you justify on

[winged field]

Don't do that. One province is enough

[still ruin]

can you tell me about the Arms Against Tyranny, what does it change about Finland

[winged field]

Like it has the same effect

[agile perch]

you can go facist i think yeah

[vital cove]

its stupid that justifications need to be on a state even

[azure palm]

there are exeptions. If you want a specific state, or if another nation can take it peacefully

[still ruin]

you can already go fascist as finland?

[lusty river]

this ship is so slow bro 😜

[agile perch]

really ?

[azure palm]

new focus tree. Also for norway, sweden and I think denmark

[agile perch]

idk i bought this a couple of months

back then

[azure palm]

which year is it?

also 2057?

[lusty river]

1939

[jaunty grail]

oh i see. so why is it an option to declare on seperate states up to 5? what difference is it supposed to make

[hoary olive]

At least the bottom one is better

[lusty river]

true!

[azure palm]

what are you building that takes till 2057 to build?

[lusty river]

i heard they are still building it

[winged field]

You just use more pp but that's it basically

[lusty river]

IDK BRO 😭

[azure palm]

yeah same

somewhere in tokyo

[jaunty grail]

ty

[azure palm]

not always

[lusty river]

tokyo planning revenge with 1 super ship that takes 118 years to build

[winged field]

Not talking about taking core claims just the basic ones. Generally you won't ever need to claim 2 provinces.

[lusty river]

noah's ark ❌
Yasuhito's ark ✅

[winged field]

If it's not like something super specific

[still ruin]

yeah, i commonly go fascist just to get manpower, then retake democracy if i beat USSR

[azure palm]

true

but manual justification still isnt useless

[agile perch]

yea lowkey i dont even know how to play the game i just do stuff

[hoary olive]

doesn't it makes getting it in peace conference cheaper?

[vital cove]

its not what they build

its them building without resources

lmao

manifesting the ship into existence takes 100 years

[azure palm]

thats one way to build a fleet

[winged field]

I never said that it is. Just that justifying on more than one province is waste of pp. Early justifying on Poland in 36 is one for good example.

[violet veldt]

It reduces the cost for those states

Its not worth

[winged field]

Wdym? I'm starting to feel like we talk about different stuff at this point xD

[robust hull]

I missed all the Dev Corners and Diaries since NCNS. What is the fuss about, what did i miss?

[cold ingot]

@thin junco

[thin junco]

tell me

[cold ingot]

i told u

family emergency anyways i gtg now bye

[thin junco]

ok good luck

[rain loom]

i suck at hoi4 so i decided to play seelow heights

pray for me

[clear dagger]

game impact

[jaunty grail]

If im justifying on a country and built my factories and stuff, should I just put the time on max speed and wait it out? Idk what else to do in that time

[smoky prairie]

Behold: the Me-362 - a swept-wing, jet powered, supersonic fighter equipped with 12x 12.7mm (.50 caliber) High-RoF Machineguns, a pressurized cabin, and its own onboard air-to-air radar set for detecting enemies.

[idle jetty]

Imagine playing germany

U dont get nukes

Like italy

[smoky prairie]

I was playing the USSR a couple of days ago

Also I almost do have nukes actually

[idle jetty]

Also guys not flexing but I almost took over a country as italy

[smoky prairie]

You can take over lots of countries as Italy

[idle jetty]

The one in africa

[smoky prairie]

Italy is quite strong

I see though you aren't interested in a serious conversation

[idle jetty]

I am but I only played one game

[smoky prairie]

Italy can easily take over Switzerland, Greece, Albania, Ethiopia, and Turkey on its own. With Germany's help, Egypt is completely achievable

[idle jetty]

Ethiopia was the one I think

I tried

And died

[smoky prairie]

To Ethiopia?

[idle jetty]

Tried to take over Ethiopia but I couldn't cuz the trench thing and naval dont make sense

[smoky prairie]

Then I'd say you have much to learn. Ethiopia is easy

No offense

[idle jetty]

I couldn't get more troops ovet

Ovet

Over

[smoky prairie]

I don't know if you are still playing it, but next time, think about what advantages you have over Ethiopia as Italy

[woeful zealot]

guys someone say a nation for me to play, ill play whatever u say i just dont know who to pick

[idle jetty]

Poland

[woeful zealot]

done

im cooked tho

lemme try it

[jaunty grail]

damn im getting beaten by poland 😭

[winged field]

Torpedo dd's + shhb

For naval

[woeful zealot]

why isnt sov saving u

[winged field]

That's actually impressive in its way

[ripe slate]

Why would they?

[woeful zealot]

dont they also declare on poland after a little bit

[jaunty grail]

idk i didnt do the focuses its asking for more manpower idk what that means ngl

[ripe slate]

😛 in Road to 56 it happens like in historical with a slight delay, in vanilla if you wait for a longer while

[jaunty grail]

i just put all my troops on the border and drew arrows

[smoky prairie]

My current Germany run (with both country view and Faction map mode)

[woeful zealot]

u probs needed more divs out

[woeful zealot]

oh ok, i only play rt56 so i didnt know

thoght it was in base game cus didnt that happen irl lol

ah ok

[ripe slate]

^^

[woeful zealot]

whats the mod for the graphics called

or is it smth i can change ingame

[smoky prairie]

which one? I'm using several

[woeful zealot]

idk i jus tlike how the countries look

like

[smoky prairie]

"HOI4 Texture overhaul" might be what you are looking for

[jaunty grail]

i think i spawned a few for the polish war i still died tho

[smoky prairie]

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=1631293381

[woeful zealot]

when u hover over ur manpower it tells u how much u have in the field. certain focuses require u to have a certain ammount

so u probs needed more

[woeful zealot]

ty

[jaunty grail]

ah ok ty

how did i die to poland tho

might be because i put aggressive on

how do you use planes theyre kinda just sitting there

[tulip thorn]

Italy is ez

[smoky prairie]

It seems to me that you are quite new to the game. I'd suggest looking up a few youtube videos. There is more than I can explain here.

HOI4 is quite complex - I have close to 2,000 hours, and I still learn new stuff from time to time

[jaunty grail]

ye i probably will watch the official one, i tried to watch it at the start but didnt understand anything so i just hopped into the game to understand things better

lol modern germany borders

[orchid pewter]

join looking for mp1

<@&1054682312446595152> join mp1

90282737470710815

<@&1054682312446595152> 90282737470710815 join mp 1

[tulip thorn]

Bro

Stop please

#1239926537512292362 #historical-multiplayer #alt-history-multiplayer Use these channels

[violet veldt]

Ethiopia is hard if you dont know what youre doing

Its mainly just supply and terrain issue dw dw

Its the terrain

Just try to abuse your cas that sucks

Dont mindlessly battleplan

[tulip thorn]

Day night mode 💔

[violet veldt]

Try to like

[violet veldt]

Its a goated mode wdym

[tulip thorn]

It hurts my eyes lol

[violet veldt]

Fair

[tulip thorn]

Its fine ish on 4 speed, but 5 speed with constant pausing and unpausing is just terrible

Its like a flash bang

[jaunty grail]

it just paused on that

[patent junco]

how can I see the effect of my naval blockade

[solemn flume]

POV: you've just insulted a greek

[tulip thorn]

It will buff out

[prisma saddle]

how do a good heavy ships?

[winter badge]

I have feeling that some mods in ask for help channel are only chasing people using other language and not actually helping

[tulip thorn]

Dont use heavy crusiers

Make like 2 super heavy battleships with 2 of the heavy guns then nothing but aa

And while doing that spam out light crusiers

And like 2-3 aircraft carriers

and from there naval larp

[violet veldt]

Why?😭

[violet veldt]

With base strike :3

720 naval bombers minimum

[tulip thorn]

Because I said

Thats how you get started with naval larp

[zenith girder]

But AC go boom

[violet veldt]

Uncle sammm let us build carriers

[tulip thorn]

Heavy ship larp

[prisma saddle]

heavy cruisers are fire

[tulip thorn]

Not for heavy ship larp

They small

not big

Its not a heavy ship until its the size of a small town

[fair horizon]

First of all, build a battleship. Second if you're gonna build a heavy cruiser no more than 2-3 guns

[violet veldt]

Why dont yall max out the gun costs

[still kite]

[violet veldt]

Like just strap a whole lotta guns on that thang

[prisma saddle]

?

[fair horizon]

Looks alright to me. Could research battleship 3 if you feel like it for more speed

You're not planning on using carriers with this correct?

Because if you are you dont even need 3 guns because the carriers will do all the work

[still kite]

I tought you need 8 screens per capital ship and alot of guns to win battles

[terse skiff]

No base is 4 screens per capital ship and 1 capital ship per carrier

Screening efficiency affects things

But the main barrier to ship templates is still access to steel

Even if you have 100 ship factories building 20 battleships/carriers will likely exhaust your steel supply

Like a maxed out ice carrier requires like 15 steel per factory so 50 factories on it is 750 steel

[marsh ingot]

how do i invade russia bro im new they keep splitting me in half

[silk fern]

Just altf4 it’s over

[vital cove]

there are few issues i can see here, and probably more that I can't see
use field marshals
don't attack when you have 0 manpower, go up conscription law. you probably also have empty stockpiles, so don't attack if you don't have surplus of equipment
don't make the reichkommsiriats
don't make vichy france
build more industry
what year is your gun tech?

don't produce outdated equipment

[terse skiff]

Vichy is good

[marsh ingot]

how do i get a field marshal

[terse skiff]

Or else free France gets all ships

[vital cove]

? literally just throwing industry to the trash

[vital cove]

doesn't really matter

[terse skiff]

It matters if you want to sealion

[silk fern]

Select multiple armies and press the button on the left

[terse skiff]

Also getting collab gov in France means you can annex vichy immediately

[vital cove]

if you wanna avoic that, triple collab france, and make a collab government after Vichy

that'll annex vichy

[terse skiff]

But he doesn't have la resistance

But yeah only having 306 factories after you own France is concerning and you have manpower and stockpile issues. If you try again try to build up your factories and weapons

[vital cove]

still, not worth to make Vichy. you can still sealion without issues

the ai doesn't use its ships well

more possible issues: your divisions templates, your doctrines

[marsh ingot]

ty

[marsh ingot]

how

[terse skiff]

You might want to follow some industry guides that teach you how to tech juggle, why building mils 3 yrs before war is optimal, and how to plan your research

[marsh ingot]

how can i get much more factories even tho i made factories all game

[terse skiff]

For example you should be using the industry tech research bonuses on 1939 and 1941 tech and not 1937

[terse skiff]

Because you didn't go war economy early, didn't build optimally, didn't rush industry tech, didn't get to 100 stab early, etc.

The difference is massive

The devil is in the details

For example noobies get 200 factories as ussr by barb but I can get 350 if no early war and 460 if I early war

[marsh ingot]

what's the fastest way to reach 100 stab

[safe wing]

Focus or promote

[safe wing]

Not being at war or decisions

[weary lagoon]

depends what path you wanna get

[terse skiff]

Sending ships to patrol your coastal provinces outside core states, rushing anschluss, and depending on your path you might need to improve worker conditions

[weary lagoon]

if you stay stalin, rush the first purge focus then do the focuses that give +10 stab next to it

[terse skiff]

Which is funny because fascism doesn't care about worker conditions irl

[safe wing]

I do this as napoleonic France to get more stability

[prisma saddle]

yea no carriers

[vital cove]

i mean people care about their working conditions

fascists are still people

[safe wing]

Stalin didn’t care about his workers conditions

[marsh ingot]

Should i do patrol and strike force that's what i do most games i play

[violet veldt]

Stalin was a small business owner anyways

[safe wing]

True but terrible and incompetent people

[violet veldt]

Half of the us disagrees

Minimum

[safe wing]

I don’t care about mine because mine are good

[violet veldt]

Just say "if you care about working conditions youre a (minority group they dont like)" it works every time

[safe wing]

Why would I care if I I’m in a good position in life

• for myself

[violet veldt]

Im not a fascist tho obv obc

The fascists here hate me

Im glad❤️

[safe wing]

Just a quick question why do you think everyone that disagrees with you is fascist? Because I don’t think everyone that disagrees with me is a fascist or a communist

[violet veldt]

Okay thats a strawman

First of all

Ehh paranoia

I admot

Second of all

[safe wing]

Can relate especially from 2015-2018

For personal reasons

[violet veldt]

A lot of people (especially here) have hitler particles😭

Idk its moreso dogwhistles

Ik a looot of dogwhistles

[safe wing]

Hitler sucked his 12 year Reich is a failure of a system and state

[violet veldt]

Yeah true

[safe wing]

One documentary i watched summed it up perfectly

He wanted to make an empire he didn’t know how to make it

Or maintain it

[violet veldt]

Idk hitler was just like the endstage of european colonialism

Horrible mf

Really

[safe wing]

Also he should have gotten the quisling treatment in gotterdamerung where he becomes worse and worse as the game progresses to show his decaying mental state

[violet veldt]

True

You wont have to worry about picking a successor tho thankfully

[zenith girder]

end of the day its a game, mussolini is so lame to play for that reason

[safe wing]

I play monarchist Italy primarily

[vital cove]

that sums up most rulers
some were just lucky

[safe wing]

Charlamange was lucky

[zenith girder]

what about tamerlane

[safe wing]

Also lucky

Same with Genghis khan

[zenith girder]

nat 20s

[safe wing]

Pretty much

[violet quartz]

new navy update is so bs it's not letting me get ANY naval superiority somehow

[proud tapir]

i fixed this issue by putting the entire fleet on patrol somehow

i had this problem too

i guess since 90% of your actual strike force sits in port most of the time, this wont generate any superiority

[violet quartz]

bro i put the entire fleet on patrol even the bloody subs it's not giving me ANYTHING

you see in the image i have 10 task forces on patrol

including my battle fleets

[proud tapir]

yeah idk man

navy is

wonky

[gilded wasp]

Having an actual austrian tree being locked behind a big expensive dlc is honestly sad 😔

I WANNA DO AUSTRIAN EMPIRE!!!!

[prisma saddle]

i wnt to a civil war because sittzerland invaded me

😭

holy

shweiz

[winter badge]

First thousand

[toxic cypress]

too far gone

[gilded wasp]

Why did you not have an army guarding your country or atleast nearby 😭

Didn't even make reserves to deploy at a whim 😔

AND HOW DID YOU BREAK SWISS NEUTRALITY

[fair herald]

what country has the most leaders

[prisma saddle]

albania

[prisma saddle]

achievement: "the end?"

[fair herald]

I assume its Poland

[prisma saddle]

manpower issues 😭 i had 48 division for naval invasion of the UK, around 20 for the africa and 14 for Turkey and 6 guarding in thessaloniki

[gilded wasp]

You had 338k my man 😔

[prisma saddle]

the 6 division 🥵

[prisma saddle]

after going down at the conscription laws

very much

[gilded wasp]

those 6 divisions were like the damn helldivers.

[prisma saddle]

hell ywa

[prisma saddle]

idk they even created a city

😭

[gilded wasp]

Ive done some stupid things before.

I was in a fight with the soviets till '45.

[prisma saddle]

dark ages

soviet ages

[gilded wasp]

Those damn russians. Encircled like, 1/3 of their entire army

And they STILL DIDNT DIE.

[prisma saddle]

free russia

😢🇧🇾🇧🇾💔🇸🇱

[gilded wasp]

I had to do 2 naval invasions of Vladivostock and nearly reach that wierd city beyond the alps to finish them.

[prisma saddle]

rip stalin

[gilded wasp]

My infantry and tank regiments were HUNGRY on the supplies too.

[prisma saddle]

Hungary

🤯

[gilded wasp]

Poor guys starving to death in the middle of nowhere russia watching their friends die in a suicide run of an encirclement.

[vocal bolt]

there is a sale going on thats nice

[prisma saddle]

that could br a film

[gilded wasp]

Intentionally didnt call them in, twas my plan to get that huge encirclement the WHOLE TIME

Made me feel like napolean.

[prisma saddle]

genius as himmler

[prisma saddle]

naples

yes

[prisma saddle]

yes 18 march

[gilded wasp]

I was NOT himmler.

I was more like

[prisma saddle]

YOU WERE

[gilded wasp]

A dollar tree rommel

[vocal bolt]

I have nothing but the free dlc rn I might get somn

[prisma saddle]

Benito himmler

[gilded wasp]

speaking of which, shoutout to rommel for doing that encirclement all by himself.

He lowk carried the german army in that war.

[prisma saddle]

wich free dlc? man the guns?

[prisma saddle]

give he a medal

an aryan medal

⛹

[gilded wasp]

I did. He is the unofficial Reichswhatevertchamacallic of Reichscomissariat Moscowien.

Im sure the russians would be just

overjoyed

And def never revolt that some german dude who obliterated a million of their men in one battle is leading them

[prisma saddle]

well

that's a way of bringing friendly with foreign lands

☺️

[vocal bolt]

everything till man the guns and man the guns itself is free now

[gilded wasp]

The fun part is.

[prisma saddle]

yea since September

[vocal bolt]

I paid for em tho lmao

[prisma saddle]

WIAT

[gilded wasp]

Britan is so obsurdly easy to invade.

[prisma saddle]

italy?

[vocal bolt]

it is what it is

[vocal bolt]

pre 43

after that its hell

[prisma saddle]

I use ireland

[gilded wasp]

Nah.

I use like 5 paratroopers

And land around..

Dover has NEVER worked for me

Idk why its ALWAYS manned.

[prisma saddle]

as italy i never make an airforce😭

[gilded wasp]

But the port next to that. Once I get them in there I rush all my army in there and blitz.

[prisma saddle]

for the lvl 5 anti air i guess

[vocal bolt]

am thinking these for the dlcs I want

[gilded wasp]

The strat is to absolutely max out the paras so theyre hyper strong and can push on their own a bit

gives you space to get supplies so your army doesnt starve and actually works

[prisma saddle]

holy damn they're so scounted now

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-last-crusade-chosen-wisely-gif-13257298

[prisma saddle]

interesqnt

[gilded wasp]

all of my paras in '40 have atleast

2-300 soft attack.

I think its more around 230.

Expensive, supply hungry boys who are very fat

but also mog the british home guard.

[lusty river]

WTF???

🤤

[gilded wasp]

ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR?

HOW DO YOU GET THAT.

[lusty river]

IDK BRO

I HAVE NO CLUE

[gilded wasp]

WHO DO YOU WORK FOR.

[lusty river]

I AM BARELY DOING STUFF BTW

THIS IS THE SITUATION

[clear dagger]

cinema reference

[lusty river]

IM JUST AFKING GERMANS

[gilded wasp]

that encirclement I had was no more than 62.

And thats the bst ive ever done

[lusty river]

with shit supply + outnumbered + battle plan no micro 😭

like what even is this front 😭

[gilded wasp]

So many juicy encirlement opportunities

All it would take is ONE good naval + air landings to wipe out that entire front.

But unfortunately

tis so impossible

A man can dream of it though.

God dude

Im a major country princess

thinking of a naval and air landing

assuming I have air superiority.

😔

[lusty river]

i love tiny nations like mengjiang or aussa lol

I NEED TANNU TUVA OR MENGJIANG FOCUS IN HOI4

[gilded wasp]

ive actually never done a minor Yet because I still suck

I would get my ass kicked as a minor vs major

[lusty river]

can like paradox please remove the requirement of hulunbuir to mongolia formable pretty please :3

[ember sparrow]

https://www.tiktok.com/@sh.imhiding.ak/live?enter_from_merge=pc_share&enter_method=pc_share&is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

[timid trail]

chat

I'm learning naval war

[valid cipher]

not sure what you mean, a minor vs. a major? I would suggest, that you should not do this fight alone?
like playing sweden an join the allies.
or ply sweden and join the axis.
or plying Kanada or australia.

[void harbor]

Does naval dominance count for me if my allies have it?

I’m not sure why my allies get to send naval invasions but not me

[valid cipher]

yes

[void harbor]

Hmm

[valid cipher]

the KI is often starting to plan naval invasions without superiority. so the units get stuck, ...

[void harbor]

Why does UK send naval invasions but it says I don’t have enough naval dominance?

[valid cipher]

are they only planed, or are they already invading?

[void harbor]

Already invading

[valid cipher]

and you are only crossing the same sea zone?
maybe they only had a short vindown of high naval superiority?