hoi4-general

[coral gorge]

if you have Swedes ball it is another -8%

Hungary gets extra -15%

general production MIO is -8% I think?

or maybe just -5%

cost reduction is additive so they actually end up much much cheaper than mediums

real downside is that they have very low hardness

so you need to have mech

[fair horizon]

doesnt translate well it would seem

[coral gorge]

no cut corner for -2.05

no subsidised contract for another -2.05

[fair horizon]

should have cut corners

[rocky nexus]

how have you been talking for this long its been hours 😭

[fair horizon]

cause i cant sleep

[coral gorge]

wait how comes you only get -5% cost from cut corner

did it change?

[rocky nexus]

faor

fair

[fair horizon]

thats a fast tank designer

[coral gorge]

ah right

[fair horizon]

might be different between them?

[coral gorge]

they get +5% cost

it is a very bad MIO for light tanks

[fair horizon]

ah true

[coral gorge]

since light's only advantage is being cheap

fast isn't even their actual advantage

[fair horizon]

its the only one australia has and its the only late game save i have rn

[coral gorge]

compared to a general production MIO you are missing sth like

[fair horizon]

so i dont have ball bearing either btw

[coral gorge]

-5.07

[fair horizon]

how much does general production give?

[coral gorge]

-5% cost I think

it is the generic tank MIO

[fair horizon]

just -5%?

[rocky nexus]

why does germany always go into a civil war immediately when i start one of my non historic focuses runs

[fair horizon]

so 15% total with cutting corner

[coral gorge]

well general production has -3% output cost too

and this and that

cuz its a production MIO

[fair horizon]

so 18% then

[coral gorge]

nah those are different modifiers

so it is still just -15%

well, cheap enough

ah wait

light tanks have one more advantage

they can have higher speed for the same reliability

it doesn't really matter except when it does

like, when reliability is a problem, you really see it

but otherwise it doesn't do anything

[fair horizon]

reliability isnt a problem imo

if reliability is a problem you miscalculated your production

[coral gorge]

reliability is a problem sometimes, but it is also a problem that you can usually find a workaround

such as just avoiding the area of attrition or using strategic redeployment

but it can be a problem

[fair horizon]

high reliability is for low production and low reliability is for high production

or you metagame the amount vs reliability

which is too much math for me tbh

[coral gorge]

well for light tanks you get very high reliability anyway

[fair horizon]

like flame tanks dont need any reliability

[coral gorge]

and they are already cheap

[fair horizon]

you dont lose it because you use like 15

[coral gorge]

so in the long run they are just super cheap

dirt cheap for some countries

they lack stats too, so you can end up losing more tanks from combat unless you already crit

never forget the actual historical Finland winter war record was 6 tank 1 mot gameplay

crit everything

what is org

what is hp

[fair horizon]

i wish amtracs were in the mio for mechanized

[sly venture]

is this good for 300 hours

[rocky nexus]

with 24.4 percent of world conquered that's like all of the british empire

so thats good

for the battles we need to know if you won

[sly venture]

best ive done is germany capitulating allies and continurm

[rocky nexus]

pretty good

yes thats nice i like that

my verdict is

it is very tuff and it is good

well im gonna play some half life 2 now

thanks to whoever deleted that

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/festthefestivefest-john-dorie-fear-the-walking-dead-ftwd-garret-dillahunt-gif-14891830818688578473

[safe wing]

I’m playing Medivial 2 rn

[fair horizon]

any idea how much cheaper hungarian tanks are?

cause im at -55% on this other save but even then its still a 7ic cost light tank

ah nvm i found it -15%

so at max you'd be 75.5 if you're playing hungary

unless i did my math wrong but either way very impressive

[prisma saddle]

i think that maybe just maybe i am a bit coockec

[south mountain]

.

[uncut pollen]

A little bit

[sly venture]

pls end

[prisma saddle]

5mln casualities to aliies ans soviet

spain willnever collapse

[patent thistle]

hungary, are you willing to die?

[primal timber]

lovely

[patent thistle]

GET F***ED

[primal timber]

horthy

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-and-einstein-luma-ai-gif-14475294631445060178

[patent thistle]

habsburg*

i now have a habsburg puppet

bro basically just gave me an equipment delivery

[prisma saddle]

IBERIAAAAAA

[primal timber]

i'd like to know whwat happened here

[heavy vigil]

morning

[heavy vigil]

collabs are created on all cpre states of that collab

ethiopia went one of the monarchist paths, increasing compliance greatly

then created a collab government on somalia, which cores ogaden

[vital cove]

will you end your game if you create a collab on a country that cores all your owned states

[safe wing]

Morning Casey have you tried Democratic King Italy?

[primal timber]

sava

what did you do to tito

[heavy vigil]

possible

[safe wing]

Its honestly my favorite Democracy path

[heavy vigil]

not yet

[vital cove]

Its stupid strong

[safe wing]

You can form Rome or greater Italy and you don’t have to deal with the balance of power civil wars

[safe wing]

Exactly

[vital cove]

you form rome and EU

[safe wing]

I always forget the EU

[vital cove]

tho maybe its actually better to do EU and greater italy

because the compliance from greater italy

[primal timber]

"let's give the dutch a piece and hope no one notices"

[vital cove]

is better than the extra cores rome has over eu

[safe wing]

I should do this

I formed Rome as them

[restive sable]

democracy paths are so fun when they're done right

i like germany's and japan's asw

[primal timber]

sure why not let's just build 500 dockyards in dalian

[safe wing]

same

[grave sonnet]

democratic Rome?

[safe wing]

Democratic King Rome

[grave sonnet]

Nice

[safe wing]

No civil wars plus you can form the EU still

[grave sonnet]

Wait Democratic Rome might be good with cores

[prisma saddle]

IBERIAAAAAAA

[safe wing]

yeah

[grave sonnet]

Japan & Germany gonna take everything

[prisma saddle]

i caried germany asf

[safe wing]

take Mexico and the Southern USA

[grave sonnet]

The German AI could care less about how you carried them

They still gonna take most of the stuff

[primal timber]

has anybody ever tried a game with only support

[prisma saddle]

IBERIA WILL DO THAT

[safe wing]

take these

[prisma saddle]

bad countris

[safe wing]

Didn't Isabella almost marry the King of Portugal

[little compass]

Hi I am John Hearts of Iron I need 5000 civilian factories to make hearts of iron 5 pls send

[safe wing]

we don't need hoi5 because "looks at EU5" yeah...

[grave sonnet]

Was about to say the same thing

[safe wing]

I would only buy Hoi5 or EU5 if someone gave me money to buy it, thats it

other than that I ain't buy or playing

[grave sonnet]

Instead of that John Hearts of Iron you could rework the US & UK focus tree

[grave sonnet]

Real

Or if someone's gifts me it

[safe wing]

Play Medieval II JLMP Vanilla Kingdoms mod

[soft yacht]

i genuinely have not played a game where the soviets dont get bummed by trotsky in the civil war

[grave sonnet]

My favourite time

[soft yacht]

or smirnov

[grave sonnet]

It's so good when they go Trotsky

It weakens them so much

[soft yacht]

its interesting but i see it so much 😭 🙏

[safe wing]

they don't go with Trotsky because Norway deports him back to the USSR on non hist

[grave sonnet]

I still want my democratic Russia focus tree

Gotta make Kerensky proud

[safe wing]

I still want my overhauled Beaten but not defeated paths

[grave sonnet]

That also

A constitutional monarchy Russia would be interesting 2 see

[safe wing]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3422852454 speaking of

Military dictatorship path included

[grave sonnet]

Saved for later usage

If I get bored of vanilla russia

[grave sonnet]

Based based

[safe wing]

mladorossi path too

[grave sonnet]

Mmm yes

More larp

[trim lotus]

Was thinking about how 4-engine naval bombers are rather expensive, and after a bit of mental math, realized that a wing of 10 such aircraft costs me more than an infantry division.

[primal timber]

playing china is a strange experience because you can be on volunteer only and have manpower that germany could only dream of whilst they're on scraping the barrel

[restive sable]

democratic russia path is all i ask for

[primal timber]

like

[restive sable]

lore accurate china

[grave sonnet]

Wait since when does conscription give attac bonus

[primal timber]

actually hang on this is 6% available

[trim lotus]

The question is how you scrape together the industry to manufacture wooden spears for all your 30M manpower.

[inland falcon]

horrific

[primal timber]

if we say the 2.5% from the bonuses is 1/3 i still have

191 million people available

[inland falcon]

TNO DEVS! REMOVE TABORITSKY FROM THE MOD AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[prisma saddle]

take this united states

[primal timber]

the state of henan has a population equal to or even greater than germany's

the entire city of chongqing has 3x the population of hungary

like

[hollow yacht]

Do someone has the guide for fascist russia with releasble

[grave sonnet]

Fascist Russia is ballz when you play Russia it's either stalin or tzar

[hollow yacht]

How

You do

The release thing

[primal timber]

i click on "raids available" and it directs me to portugal

and

when did japan get a nuclear research facility

[trim lotus]

They get one as part of their focus tree.

[grave sonnet]

To release a nation?

[primal timber]

actually hold that thought

[heavy vigil]

they get it from a focus

[hollow yacht]

There is a build for russia nom communist to release many tags to be boosted of 60 civs

[primal timber]

phew thought you-know-who is posessing al-said

[grave sonnet]

Never heard of it

[hollow yacht]

Xf

Xd

[grave sonnet]

I mean makes sense since I don't rly play Russia

[hollow yacht]

Do Somone has a non hist sever

With "meta" builds

[primal timber]

if ww3 starts im stealing mongolia

like its just right there

[fair horizon]

the great burgundy reign begins today

[broken thorn]

wtf is happening

💔😭

[paper cloak]

WHAT is happening gng

[solemn hinge]

yo is it dumb to put aa battalion to get 21 width?

[modern torrent]

there goes half their army

[snow rain]

stop training more useless cavalry 😭

[uncut wraith]

paradox please delete last stand

[snow rain]

if only ...

[uncut wraith]

also please make the ai stop stealing my encirclements

i absolutely love it when i do 100% of the work to create the encirclement and then the ai immediately starts attacking it the millisecond i make it so it steals all of my kills

[sudden thistle]

We, yes WE love the AI

[outer tide]

https://tenor.com/view/yuuri-yuri-girls-last-tour-tkmiz-nuko-gif-6354776591826896307

[uncut wraith]

i swear the only time the ai is anywhere close to competent is when i create a situation that could produce lots of enemy casualties

otherwise its 100% braindead

[faint fiber]

ai? better freak out for no reason and claim ai is bad

[uncut wraith]

i’m fighting japan as greece and the soviets are on my side and it completely threw manchuria but it woke up the millisecond i encircled 20 japanese divs

[faint fiber]

it was waiting to troll you

[prisma saddle]

thank em later german reich

IBERIAA

[uncut wraith]

i swear to god it was

[faint fiber]

meanwhile switzerland is sitting there doing this

[uncut wraith]

i got 0 (zero) help attacking to actually encircle

[prisma saddle]

thank you switzerland for exist

[faint fiber]

why do people attack luxembourg? its pointless

[toxic cypress]

ive built a wierd empire

[tulip thorn]

Empire is Empire

[sudden thistle]

U now own all the rubber in the world

[safe wing]

espically this empire

https://tenor.com/view/byzantium-byzantine-empire-byzantine-roman-eastern-roman-gif-25826571

[sly venture]

I WAS GETTING READY FOR SEA LION AND HALF MY TROOPS GOT DELETED FOR NO REASON GLORY TO HOI4🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[toxic cypress]

rubber king

[split fulcrum]

is this good?

i dont have uhh

the dlc that adds tank design

this is base tank

i am playing germany

beat france and poland

next up is soviets

[vital cove]

use spgs

you can research them

[split fulcrum]

spg

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/k9-thunder-firing-self-propelled-howitzer-artillery-spg-gif-7427021126688841622

these

[split fulcrum]

@vital cove where do i add them?

[vital cove]

on tanks research page, you have small icons to research spgs

and tank destroyers/spaa

[split fulcrum]

ohhh

so they just buff tanks?

theyre a new unit

[vital cove]

they're tanks with more soft atk

yes

[split fulcrum]

ahh

@vital cove i dont even have enough tanks smh

[jaunty delta]

lowkey the org is ass

[split fulcrum]

producing 2.3 a day

[jaunty delta]

but its okay

[split fulcrum]

and -3.2k deficit

[tulip thorn]

28 org isnt the worst for tank divs

[split fulcrum]

how do i fix this though?

i cant spare enough factories

[tulip thorn]

You should also replace motor recon

Its not good

[split fulcrum]

alright

[fair horizon]

cheap task force btw (all but 2 ships are stolen)

[split fulcrum]

what about this for infantry?

[tulip thorn]

Get rid of logistics

Infantry doesnt need it ever

[split fulcrum]

hmm

[tulip thorn]

Expensive and not all that useful for inf

[split fulcrum]

what do i add instead then?

[tulip thorn]

same with field hospital

You dont need to fill all support company slots

[fair horizon]

at least field hospital can have uses on a low pop country

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

But its expensive and such

[split fulcrum]

do i need to use tanks while fighting soviets?

[tulip thorn]

Its useful but not needed for him

What does your production look like

[split fulcrum]

bad

[tulip thorn]

Let me see it

[split fulcrum]

i can send logistics menu

[tulip thorn]

I want to see your production

[tulip thorn]

Get more on tanks

[split fulcrum]

cant spare any

[tulip thorn]

Why

100 mills is really low

[split fulcrum]

it is?

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

[tulip thorn]

yes

what year is it

[split fulcrum]

1940

[tulip thorn]

yeah

thats a very low count for 1940

Like really low

You should have double that by 1940

Have you been building civs?

[split fulcrum]

i built mils

[tulip thorn]

Did you build civs

[paper cloak]

Well

[split fulcrum]

i have

but i dont think its enough

[tulip thorn]

You should have been building mills since 1936

[paper cloak]

I just spent 5h in kaiserredux lmao

[tulip thorn]

Since you started the game

Build civs in the rhine and then nothing but mills

[paper cloak]

Finally after many attempts I won France lmao

Doing an naval invasion to Britain and having many motorised and armoured divisions really helped lmao

[prisma saddle]

how gain that?

[toxic cypress]

i kinda made japanese empire?

except i also own turkey

im bouta create the funniest empire

[paper cloak]

Lmao first time seeing the Great East Asian Federation

How many formables does Japan have now with the new dlc?

[magic moat]

90282361876045835

90282361876045835

90282361876045835

[toxic cypress]

mmmm

[outer tide]

what a nice day today

[toxic cypress]

its op ash

for no reason

there is like 3 focuses

that add 1 buidling slots and scales

if i own all of asia i can get one slot per states

that means alotta factories i can build

[plain pawn]

Hist game is up

dm if intrested

[prisma saddle]

IBERIA DID IT

[toxic cypress]

no offense why is ww2 in 1954

ts shlda ended

so long ago

[prisma saddle]

bc of this

holy crap

THE IBERIAN EMPIRE

[ripe slate]

@plain pawnPlease stick to MP channels

[tiny iris]

I am so desperate that I use field marshals as generals.

[fair horizon]

woah

[prisma saddle]

mexico?

[fair horizon]

im not mexico

[prisma saddle]

SPANISH?

[fair horizon]

thats the ai

[prisma saddle]

IBERIA?

[kind reef]

I only have 33 hours in the game and I am addicted to it

[sudden thistle]

That’s a bit more than Iberia

[prisma saddle]

your hours will grow with out you even notice

[prisma saddle]

i was hungry of paeia

[toxic cypress]

finally

[fair horizon]

whyd you need 200 ships to do that?

[prisma saddle]

rip pride of the navy

[toxic cypress]

im tryna take over english channel and i just put my whole fleet on patrol

[prisma saddle]

for screening

[toxic cypress]

it took alot of destroying

anyway ima land in england in like 10 days

[fair horizon]

i mean ig but it would be easier to delete the british fleet if he split it

[vital cove]

65 submarines 🚮

[fair horizon]

TRUE

[jade ore]

dude what even is this menu ive never seen it in my life

[kind reef]

I am gonna use a nuke tomorrow for the first time ever in HOI4 I am so excited :3

[grave sonnet]

I don't remember the last time I used Nukes

Only used them for achievement

[broken thorn]

how?

[snow rain]

soviets in lithuania

[broken thorn]

...

[grave sonnet]

Lithuania Strong 💪

They even defeated the British once

[broken thorn]

am so dead if the allies attack me

im only Bulgaria🥺🥺💗

[snow rain]

yeah with so little supply you are, indeed, dead

[broken thorn]

yeah...

[broken thorn]

am new so i dont know how to get more supplies

tip?

[snow rain]

don't give yourself loads of equipment to then deathstack divs and die from stravation would be a start

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-the-creation-tyler-the-creator-child-kid-son-gif-8121086759220539515

can u show me

ur recruiting level

[snow rain]

it's ok to cheat, it's not to cheat and lose afterwards because you're not learning with it

[toxic cypress]

idk but ive never seen bulgaria have 200 units

unless im doing it

[broken thorn]

i used bulgi to make back the empire

[snow rain]

#hoi4-general message
it's console file but that's no issue in itself

[broken thorn]

just as a joke

[steel zephyr]

terrible run but i randomly get free land from yugo, romania and soviet 🤤

[snow rain]

not so terrible after all

[broken thorn]

what happened💔

[snow rain]

you cropped out all UIs

[steel zephyr]

lost almost 300k when romania and czechia invaded me 😢

[heavy vigil]

hi francis

[broken thorn]

the map

[snow rain]

you ask what happened, I tell you what happened

[toxic cypress]

i annexed china as bulgaria b4

https://tenor.com/view/happy-snoopy-dance-gif-6346944927236436223

[broken thorn]

how

[toxic cypress]

get good

[broken thorn]

https://giphy.com/gifs/animation-meme-brainrot-vsE9zKWkY9o1GzsKzN

[toxic cypress]

6.7

[fair horizon]

Chat belgium is quite fun

[split fulcrum]

is there a way to convert light tanks into medium tanks?

[steel zephyr]

slopmarines

what a weird combat width

[split fulcrum]

or is it just

medium tanks to medium tank variants

[mild plaza]

Its based on the chassis. So basic medium can only be converted to a design that also used basic medium chassis

[split fulcrum]

hmmm

is there a way to buy tanks?

[sly venture]

Every time I play multi I get a passive nerf that makes me 150% worse at the game

[sudden thistle]

U needs dlc

But even when u do

[split fulcrum]

grahh

[sudden thistle]

The tanks u buy are shit

[split fulcrum]

i guess i must try encircling soviet troops

with infantry

[charred rain]

всем привет

[tiny iris]

The Germans have taken 2 million casulties yet they broke through the maginot and is holding a three front war.

It's insane.

[split fulcrum]

@sudden thistle actually is it possible to breakthrough and encircle with infantry?

i have 3 tank regiments

at 70% strength

[mild plaza]

Depends on the template

[mild plaza]

And if you have CAS

[split fulcrum]

actually

remove the uhh

logistics and hospital

[steel zephyr]

i dont like this division but im actually managing to reinforce meme

[mild plaza]

That won't push much. Do you have a lot of fighters and CAS?

[split fulcrum]

only infantry

i recruited nearly all infantry

[mild plaza]

Then you've got a bit of a problem

[kind reef]

Is it because they make the game too easy

[mild plaza]

You'll hold fine but pushing back won't be easy

[split fulcrum]

yea

i lose so many casualties

versus the soviets

encircling is like necessary

but it isnt an option!

[vital cove]

it is not

you can battleplan them

[split fulcrum]

battleplan?

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[split fulcrum]

is it a doctrine?

[vital cove]

draw an arrow -> click go

[split fulcrum]

oh you literally mean a battle plan

[broken thorn]

i just declraed war at syria and the allies joined in the war...

[sudden thistle]

(Syria is a colony of France)…

[broken thorn]

yeah...

i thought they gonna let it slide

lol

[sudden thistle]

AI never lets it slide

[night field]

what am i even supposed to do?

[steel zephyr]

space marines are great wow

[winged field]

If you want offensive inf go for 36w

[split fulcrum]

yea i dont think i got enough inf eq to be running that

[winged field]

+if you can replace logistics with signals

[winged field]

How many inf divs u have now?

[toxic cypress]

get good twin

[split fulcrum]

137

[toxic cypress]

BULGARIAN SUPREMECY

[winged field]

I would rather have 1 army of 36w inf than 137 divs of 16w. Just because you will take way less casualties, hp is king

[broken thorn]

where the so called soviets at?

[split fulcrum]

so

like

do i consolidate half of them?

[winged field]

Yes, you are fighting againts USSR now right?

[steel zephyr]

entrenched fortified swiss in bratislava and i still get less causalties?!

[split fulcrum]

not at war yet

[winged field]

Even better, you only need like 2-3 armies of those 36w infantry units to deal with soviets, you dont even need to micro just battleplan

Again if you can replace logistics company with signals

do it

[steel zephyr]

larp

[bronze mango]

Hold

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/memis-macar

[steel zephyr]

10:1 kdr so far

🤤

[faint fiber]

Yamamoto is S tier, Tojo is B tier at best

[patent thistle]

light cruisers for the win

(ignore the billions of pre-dreadnoughts)

[vocal bolt]

what are MIOs

[tulip thorn]

Things that give really good buffs if you use the right one and get them to high levels

[patent thistle]

OH POLAND DARED- (not like i would have invaded them anyways but thats besides the point)

[vocal bolt]

is it dlc

[grave sonnet]

This is a usual occurrence

[patent thistle]

they are melting

[tulip thorn]

yes

[grave sonnet]

They will leave Lithuania with 2 states

[tulip thorn]

Arms against tyranny

[vocal bolt]

whicg

ah

[tulip thorn]

AAT

[patent thistle]

too bad its my puppet my guy

[grave sonnet]

Ah mb didn't know the context

I thought it was Independent

Poland & Lithuania usually go to war and Poland leaves them with 2 states

[sudden grotto]

i think its broken by the fact that its non aligned and wont cause much world tension

[grave sonnet]

Maybe

But it's still funny seeing Lithuania just chilling in the coast

And Poland has 70% of the country

[plucky turtle]

help me guys😭

[leaden sphinx]

yo, how can I play....

[plucky turtle]

i left the game running and forgot to pause

1.5 years passed

[vocal bolt]

focus trees

[plucky turtle]

i got annexed

[leaden sphinx]

I tried

[plucky turtle]

although i had very strong defensive positions and great army

[steel zephyr]

whats mountain combat width rq

[patent thistle]

romania and czechia want to join the empire too ig

i can provide for it

[plucky turtle]

i lost a playthrough which i have been playing for 2 weeks

[vocal bolt]

why are U pushing sudetenland

they have like level 10 forst there

[patent thistle]

i am not

[vocal bolt]

red battle bubble

[plucky turtle]

italy annexed me while i was afk

biggest ironman shit

[patent thistle]

oh that, thats because of me having had czech military access

[patent thistle]

also like irl the south is empty

no sudetenline

[plucky turtle]

infantry only?

[patent thistle]

my economy be kinda shit rn

[plucky turtle]

yeah fair

[patent thistle]

sucks not having that unrealistic southern line doesnt it czechia?

[grave sonnet]

Can we stop using line artillery PLEASE

[soft yacht]

THIS IS SUCH A PERFECT SAVE FOR THE ACHIEVEMENT

I CAN NOT MESS THIS UP

NO WAY

[sudden thistle]

How did a game take 2 weeks to play

[patent thistle]

well, thats a new.

didnt go to well joining against me didnt it romania and czechs?

hungary and lithuania shall now be repayed for their loyality

[soft yacht]

bros playing on a toaster

nah jk

[steel zephyr]

its giving provinces i occupy to my allies who arent in war

bruh why is it doing this

[paper cloak]

Border gore bruh

[soft yacht]

its not terrible

[patent thistle]

the czechs deserve it

[soft yacht]

ive seen some horrible borders in this game

and especially aoh2

[paper cloak]

Nuh, what tho

[patent thistle]

they tried to backdoor me while i was fighting poland and romania

[paper cloak]

Yeah they deserve it

[patent thistle]

letting them live in this state is even worse for them

[paper cloak]

That’s why I have player led peace conference mod

[dusky burrow]

which nation is this?

who calls themselves the rock empire

[loud shuttle]

is there any mod which changes every city name to the corresponding language of the country?

[patent thistle]

i am pretty sure rt56 does it

[loud shuttle]

yea but rt56 sucks

[storm pelican]

does anyone know how to make denmark surrender to you and become your puppet as non germany

[patent thistle]

there is worse

[paper cloak]

The rock empire 💔💔

[fluid oak]

thoughts?

[tulip thorn]

Road to 56 is a pretty good mod

Its not bad

[patent thistle]

cough cough great war redux cough cough

[loud shuttle]

yea but its laggy and slow

[soft yacht]

not bad

[loud shuttle]

and i have a good pc

[soft yacht]

clearly not

i have rx7600 and it runs well for me

[paper cloak]

I have 1800+ hours in this game and only 5 achievements

[tulip thorn]

What are your specs

[split bane]

I think Denmark surrenders when the country that declares war on them shares a border
But I'm not sure

[soft yacht]

this is my first ironman game after 700 hours lol

[loud shuttle]

i dont even know what is what

[storm pelican]

BRUH

[tulip thorn]

Then how do you know its good lmao

[paper cloak]

I am so anxious guy that I will crash out in the first hour if I play iron man lmao

[tulip thorn]

People say they have a good pc when they dont and then complain about how terrible something runs

[soft yacht]

dw i crashed out like 3 times this is my third try

[patent thistle]

i beg your pardon? i dont have issues with my shitty laptop

[heavy vigil]

pretty sure it needs to be germany? not too confident

read the code

[soft yacht]

its hard out here

[tulip thorn]

Ill be honest, I have a very bad over 10 year old gaming laptop

and Road to 56 runs only a tiny bit slower than base game

Its really not that bad

[storm pelican]

it doesn't say that

[paper cloak]

My laptop is also shitty, and that doesn’t either help lmao

[heavy vigil]

huh okay

[loud shuttle]

which one is the important one

[storm pelican]

bigger chance for them to surrender if

u got big army

[patent thistle]

there is way worse mods. RT56 at times legit runs better then basegame for me

[split bane]

Nah, I've had games where I was playing as Sweden and they surrendered basically instantly

[tulip thorn]

R56 runs slightly slower for me

[storm pelican]

you could do it as any country

[heavy vigil]

factors are funny because it isnt chance based

they always do it based on highest factor

[storm pelican]

factors multiply tho no?

[loud shuttle]

i5-7500 cpu

[heavy vigil]

sorry for being wrong

[tulip thorn]

I have a 10 year old laptop I7 btw

[heavy vigil]

from sheep i heard they always take biggest factor number

[storm pelican]

ill test the border theory

[loud shuttle]

is mine i mean

[tulip thorn]

Thats not good in modern terms

No wonder R56 is slow for you

[patent thistle]

mine is legit worse bro-

[storm pelican]

cant do shit as iran in hoi4

[tulip thorn]

You are in the same generation as my cpu but a i5

[loud shuttle]

well then again this pc was a gift

like 3 years ago

[heavy vigil]

the communist path is pretty nice if you just wanna larp defending and stuff

[storm pelican]

I wanna get islamic republic and another path unlocked in one run

[paper cloak]

Now in this economy it’s impossible for me to upgrade to a better pc

[storm pelican]

so I need to be directly attacked by fascist/communist nation other than soviets and UK

[heavy vigil]

islamic republic is a rlly bad path

[tulip thorn]

Im about to upgrade 💔

[heavy vigil]

but

[storm pelican]

I was thinking of getting Denmark, joining axis, and then killing vichy

so japan can attack me

[heavy vigil]

you get reza shah pavlavi as a FM back

[storm pelican]

its not that bad

[heavy vigil]

on islamic republic

[heavy vigil]

its the weakest one

[loud shuttle]

adding new focus trees to czechoslovakia ❌
adding indonesia and australia focus trees ✅

[vagrant pulsar]

yo bro how i can change language in the game ?

[patent thistle]

is anyone actually unironically enjoying the graveyards of empires content?

[heavy vigil]

in the launcher

[heavy vigil]

me

[storm pelican]

many people fail to realize

[split bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/know-does-he-XAeEGyCbp8UehBPkSA

[storm pelican]

that you can get this from islamic republic too

[tulip thorn]

czechoslovakia is about to get one lmao

[loud shuttle]

if i change my CPU will i have to like reinstall and relogin to everything or nah?

[storm pelican]

you just need to proclaim it after you do this lol

[heavy vigil]

left side is more fun

[loud shuttle]

yea i know

[paper cloak]

I hope in the next dlc we’ll have an USA rework lol

[tulip thorn]

If its a laptop you need to replace the entire thing

[storm pelican]

right side better

[loud shuttle]

no its a box

[vagrant pulsar]

we cant add arabic ?

[storm pelican]

except for inability to create factions

[tulip thorn]

If its a desktop you need to check to make sure a new cpu is compatible with your motherboard

Look it up

[storm pelican]

I tried everything

[tulip thorn]

Find out what motherboard you have and what you can upgrade to

[heavy vigil]

no :(

[loud shuttle]

screw this ima just get to playing my hungary game bro

[storm pelican]

USA goig communist on ahist, that never happens cuz devs never fixed it

[patent thistle]

generally you dont unless you do a change from like intel to ryzen

[storm pelican]

my last hope is playing HIST-AHIST with UK going communist or fascist AHIST

[heavy vigil]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3402098254

[paper cloak]

Is it possible to do fascist USA without the civil war?

[tulip thorn]

no

[patent thistle]

in which you are going to need an entirely new motherboard so

[storm pelican]

also rip discord in 7 mins

[vital cove]

*any major

[tulip thorn]

His motherboard is outdated, he would need to get a new one for a good cpu

[paper cloak]

Oh

[patent thistle]

noone is willingly going to DDR 5 with these prices bro 🥀

[vital cove]

they surrender if you're major

[storm pelican]

ah so u need to be a major

ok

[split bane]

$50000 for one stick of DDR 5,but hey! We got AI slop now! yay...

[storm pelican]

thx for letting me now

know*

[storm pelican]

now I need to figure out how to become a major as iran

[tulip thorn]

He is at 2113 mhz ddr4

💔

[vagrant pulsar]

i need to buy it ?

[heavy vigil]

thats a mod

not official

[split bane]

You sure? I think I've had them surrender when I wasn't a major before? Idk it's been a while

[vital cove]

were u faction leader?

that automatically makes you a major

[split bane]

I don't think so

[vital cove]

it might be possible otherwise

[split bane]

When I get home I'll check

[patent thistle]

i beg your pardon? that is litterally what i have-

[tulip thorn]

Its also what I currently have

2113 mhz is pretty bad

[tiny iris]

I'm a proud democratic player.

[steel zephyr]

my old allies of italy and germany pmo me so much I turned sides

[patent thistle]

my railway artillery be picking the best way to get to the frontline

[soft yacht]

alright bro tf

[patent thistle]

i mean atleast it aint DDR 3 like my old office PC i stole of a dumpster

like unironically

[steel zephyr]

what a nice offencive kdr

[soft yacht]

game is smoking something how do you only have 8%

[steel zephyr]

joined in late, thats probably why i suppose

[soft yacht]

oh yeah

[tulip thorn]

True

[soft yacht]

fair enough

[steel zephyr]

when i joined in france was almost gone and the soviets were struggling in the east

[tulip thorn]

But 2113 is still not great

[steel zephyr]

situation now though

man are signal companies with space marines nice

first time actually using them to this scale

[loud shuttle]

Raise the Flag song is so Peak 🥹

[steel zephyr]

what the germans are up againts

all for <2k IC

tuff

[patent thistle]

not so wise bulgaria

albania being the faction leader lol

time to snake their cap

[paper cloak]

How did they managed to get Catalonia

[soft yacht]

idk

probably bs in the civil war

[paper cloak]

Interesting that the fascist Hungary is an ally with the communist Russia

[steel zephyr]

not facist

[paper cloak]

Hmm

[visual pasture]

random island in the pacific

[patent thistle]

the balkan has been fairly reorganized i would say

[paper cloak]

I asked ChatGPT

Even ChatGPT couldn’t find it lmao

[steel zephyr]

https://giphy.com/gifs/know-does-he-XAeEGyCbp8UehBPkSA

[patent junco]

guys so I am playing as iran and I am at war with the US and allies and like not even 5 minutes in and they've bombed all my facilities, oil and infastructure

[paper cloak]

Maybe call Russia or china to help you?

[steel zephyr]

"from france" yeah right...

[patent junco]

Good idea but their pretty dumb NPC's rn

[paper cloak]

Hmm…very french indeed

[paper cloak]

Is there NK too?

[patent junco]

my navy is still alive but partly sunk

i bombed kuwait for fun

but i lost like 10 bombers

[paper cloak]

Protect your coasts

[patent junco]

my fighters are also a little outdated so I am losing a lot

[patent junco]

I have mined them

[paper cloak]

So you would have Operation desert storm 0.1

[visual pasture]

hold on

[steel zephyr]

one army of hungarian space marines vs italy

https://giphy.com/gifs/logdoor-TPDF1gnazjNprLCqIq

4K LOSSES

[patent junco]

the tehran government has also formed us into the first iranian empire as my inf is working

This is why mines need reworking

[visual pasture]

this

[patent junco]

the US has bases over next to saudi arabia still so they still have supremecy

we also managed to annex israel when pushing through iraq to the suez

but those damn allies got bases all around me

even on cyprus its owned by the greeks 💔

what i need is missiles

[languid saffron]

Had to surrend to the germans and lowk got better than free france

[paper cloak]

Jesus h Christ it’s really an random island lmao

First time hearing about it

[patent junco]

this seems like a good idea for iran?

[paper cloak]

Hey you aren’t in a bad situation as I can see

[visual pasture]

ye idk if its in vanilla tho, im playing road to 56

[patent junco]

i was earlier they pushed me to tehran

[paper cloak]

Yeah why not, you are making also nukes

[patent junco]

My facility got bombed so I had to restart progress on the iranian nuclear program

[paper cloak]

Ohhh that’s what

[paper cloak]

At lest you pushed them away, didn’t you?

[sudden thistle]

Ur 2 weeks from nukes!!!

[patent junco]

yeahhh

2 weeks with 99% delays

5 years

we are invading pakistan with afghanistan

they tried to invade afghanistan so im helping

stuck here

[sharp sierra]

imagine joining a faction

[patent junco]

at least china is giving me coal

[paper cloak]

How didn’t Germany beat Soviet Union

[sharp sierra]

if half their army wasnt elsewhere like in france and guarding france they probably would have

but idk where they would be without the stuff they got from invading that area

[languid saffron]

time to get liberated

[patent junco]

im on sheeps

veteran player

[sharp sierra]

the banks are here

[paper cloak]

Sheeps

Lmao

[patent junco]

yeee

its good

[tulip thorn]

Peak

[patent junco]

I only play sheeps tbh

else games meh

[tulip thorn]

I would play more sheeps, but way to many of the mods I enjoy arent compatible

[visual pasture]

average allied divs behaviour

genuinely pisses me off

[paper cloak]

Did you tried to do a naval invasion from the behind?

[tulip thorn]

The great Iranian Navy

[paper cloak]

Do you can trap them

[patent junco]

yeah the thing is theres NO option in sheeps to disable space marines

so if those divs didn't have armour I could pierce

[paper cloak]

Yes. Actually the Persian empire had a really good navy back then

[patent junco]

luckily u can decide if germany does them or not

[tulip thorn]

damn

[patent junco]

same for soviets

but thats the only two

div spam holding with like 30 divs and they'll have like AT in all of them

😭

[tulip thorn]

Doesnt quite translate into Tumon having a big navy as iran

Iran doesnt even have much naval research at the start

[patent junco]

I have 10 mine ships and 4 subs lol

I managed to place 1000 mines in each sea

but hoi4 is useless for mines

[paper cloak]

Well

[patent junco]

they're only good at invasion penalty

nothing else

they NEED a rework

[paper cloak]

There is time to build one

Navy

[patent junco]

if ur that bothered just run mines and subs

and the new doctrine system makes it good

but even then

mines are broken

only use them for penalty

u can even stick them on subs so if ur like finland use ur 1 dockyard and put mines around

if ur in MP soviet maybe wont use their navy in winter war or naval invade but u will have them

I just realised also im 2 hours on with the same song on repeat

[steel zephyr]

why isnt faction member influence being accounted

[patent junco]

no idea tbf

but also why u using those generals

😭

[paper cloak]

How didn’t you noticed 💔

[steel zephyr]

didnt even bother to change generals because my divisions were already doing good 🤤

i just clicked the first ones that came

[patent junco]

it says the same word over and over

[patent junco]

use ur special force general and the also a level 1 general and after a naval invasion give him the naval invasion trait

[steel zephyr]

big boy

[dusky burrow]

well you could use marines or paratroopers

investing in good tanks would be worth it here

[steel zephyr]

💀

[dusky burrow]

well

good luck, you'll win probably

[patent junco]

oh man i alt f4'f already bored of iran

[dusky burrow]

you should really set up your second naval invasion order

[steel zephyr]

reinforcememed out of dover 🤤

[dusky burrow]

also with that path you're supposed to take over turkey in like 1939 if you can

[dusky burrow]

not quite

you're in trouble

[steel zephyr]

yes quite

[dusky burrow]

if you don't get dover that is

oh nice

[steel zephyr]

whole army of space marines

[dusky burrow]

bring as much as and as many planes over britain as you can rn

[steel zephyr]

have not much of an airforc e but the french cover me thankfully

[dusky burrow]

they will try and counterattack

[paper cloak]

I hate how uk now knows how to be prepared for naval invasion grrr

[steel zephyr]

24 of these divisions coming to an england near you

[grave sonnet]

Bro please stop

Please

[paper cloak]

Isn’t it..expensive?

[grave sonnet]

No more line artillery

[steel zephyr]

i got more equipment to spare

🤤

[jade ore]

u dont need 66 air attack king

[steel zephyr]

tank just there for space marines

AA tanks need less tanks per battalion

[jade ore]

..ok? it still costs more ic i assume

[steel zephyr]

my air cannon is the cheapest

uh oh dover gone

[patent junco]

i remember og hoi4 as the soviets

fun times

[steel zephyr]

my first ever somewhat large naval invasion

and i got almost 500 hours

[paper cloak]

HOW did you managed to get that much equipment

[steel zephyr]

only 12k losses in capturing italy, greece and now britain

[paper cloak]

Interesting. Somehow I only manage to get 2k both of artillery and support equipment bf a big war, I don’t know what I do wrong

[steel zephyr]

concentrated industry

[paper cloak]

So you focused on these three things?

[steel zephyr]

i didnt focus on industry research, but i always go concentrated.

i even under-researched a bit because its 1943 now

[paper cloak]

Ohhhh

Now I understand

Thank you very much

[steel zephyr]

417k:10k kdr with britain

[sly venture]

what have i creted

[grave sonnet]

Hungarian invasion of the UK was something I was not expecting to see

[visual pasture]

AI does Space Marines? Jeez

[steel zephyr]

sheeps mod

[grave sonnet]

They aren't as OP as before sadly

[steel zephyr]

AI but sweaty multiplayer level of skill

[visual pasture]

I don't do it in my divs

[steel zephyr]

its very nice, managing an offencive kdr of over 100:1

[grave sonnet]

I only do it when I have a mega surplus of Tanks and wanna waste some

[visual pasture]

I just use regular ass infantry div with artillery, maybe also anti air if my air force sucks ass

[steel zephyr]

still no fall of london poppup

[steel zephyr]

setting tanks as anti-air makes it need less per battalion whilst keeping same armour stats

thats what i did

[grave sonnet]

Yes ik that

[steel zephyr]

my spacemarine tank

[visual pasture]

Does medium tanks + motorized infantry count as that though

[steel zephyr]

gonna pop out maybe another army of spaces with this

[steel zephyr]

spacemarines is defined as using a single armour battalion to boost entire division armour stat because of how armour stat works

[grave sonnet]

I don't think so

[steel zephyr]

40% of max armour + 60% of mean armour

so a single high armour tank battalion gives the entire division 40% of its armour (and peircing) flat

[visual pasture]

Space Marines just sounds silly tho, sounds like cheating

Against Ai

If it is that op

[grave sonnet]

Not as OP now

Before it was broken

It's still good

But not as good

[visual pasture]

So a heavy tank sounds pretty good with that

Heavy tank with tons of armour into it

[steel zephyr]

i suppose so but make sure its some high armour anti-air one

anti-air ofc so that it needs less tanks per battalion

same armour stat, less tanks

[visual pasture]

Doesn't sound viable with minor nations though

Making tanks with minors is not very easy

At least in good nunbers

Maybe light tanks

[steel zephyr]

hungary is a minor, i managed it just fine

earlygame yes, but once you explode in factories

its light work

[loud shuttle]

i got most of the greater hungary lands without a war only vojvodina was refused

[steel zephyr]

🤤

[visual pasture]

One thing I have tried using but I don't get the role of it is armored cars

Just feels like wannabe motorized

[loud shuttle]

never use armor cars

they suck

[visual pasture]

They are speedy but that's it

[loud shuttle]

yea but everythign else about them is ass

[visual pasture]

I think the only thing I used them was actually in garrison division

I think they are okay to deal with resistance

But not that much better than cavalry

[visual pasture]

They are basically motorized vehicle but worse

[storm pelican]

please devs for the love of God fix usa ahistorical, they never ever ever go fascist or communist

[visual pasture]

When I said minor, I thought of worse stuff like some random African country

[storm pelican]

doing something as a "minor" country which has an OP focus tree which gives it land is not "skill"

Hungary has one of the easiest trees ever

its like playing a mod

[visual pasture]

I remember playing God damn Cameroon

[storm pelican]

why would you do that

[visual pasture]

Cameroon, Chad, Zambia

[storm pelican]

chad is absed

zambia based but only lately

cuz u can do civil war

and zimbabwe formable

but rwanda and burundi are the most based

I did burundi WC since they can form latin africa and east africa

[visual pasture]

Mutapa formable

But the reason I played is because I went to a website that roulettes to any country

And that happened

[storm pelican]

thats slop

imagine doing something because a random number told you

most intellegent hoi4 player

(thats the only reason I played Burundi too)

[heavy vigil]

sejozwak when are you gonna play the most dreadful hoi4 countries

[storm pelican]

IM DOING IT RN

IM TRYING TO MAKE IRAN GREAT

[heavy vigil]

no theres releasables without a mil high command

[storm pelican]

BUT devs screwed me over with broken USA ahist

[heavy vigil]

like melanesia, samoa, guam, western sahara, micronesia

its 100x worse than iran

[storm pelican]

why would I play that

this is more dreadful

[visual pasture]

It was pretty fun though actually, but u kinda have to have the patience of a god to actually win because u will be playing the game into very late game

[storm pelican]

I spent 2 days trying to do what im trying to do

[heavy vigil]

lol

[storm pelican]

and that's to get DIRECTLY attacked by fascist/communist country other than UK and Soviets

you just can't fking do it

[heavy vigil]

ive played a bit of iran its like pretty reasonable imo