spam light cruisers
#hoi4-general
quasi shoal
waxen oyster
They still take sooooo long lol
quasi shoal
the dockyards you get from the start and from invading are more than enough
atomic grove
They still take sooooo long lol
they r worth it
quasi shoal
They still take sooooo long lol
more dockyards won't fix that
waxen oyster
R u sure
quasi shoal
it'll just mean you build more at the same time
quasi shoal
R u sure
yes
light cruisers are cheap anyways
you can easily get like 5 per line every year
lapis prairie
atomic grove
put the most light attack on a light cruiser and spam it
waxen oyster
Okok. I just figure I was going to be island hopping now so more navy was going to be better
quasi shoal
Okok. I just figure I was going to be island hopping now so more navy was going ...
why island hop
waxen oyster
Like I have sooooo many factories now lol it’s crazy
lapis prairie
Just bought crimea and rostov \
quasi shoal
To take the islands and Hawaii and stuff
but why take the islands and hawaii
waxen oyster
Don’t I need to have islands before I can hop to Hawaii?
quasi shoal
Philippines
that's usually not included in island hopping
quasi shoal
Don’t I need to have islands before I can hop to Hawaii?
you don't even have to go to hawaii
waxen oyster
I want to take Hawaii so I can keep USA away while I take over east Asia and India and Australia
Like it’d be my outpost
quasi shoal
I want to take Hawaii so I can keep USA away while I take over east Asia and Ind...
why not just kill the US and go for the other things
quasi shoal
Idk then the game is too easy isn’t it
island hopping is easy too
waxen oyster
Instead of taking them before 1941
quasi shoal
Instead of taking them before 1941
I never said you have to take them before 1941
but you can just take the other stuff and then go for the US without island hopping
waxen oyster
Ok I’ll just sleep on it lol
Sometimes I don’t like going too quickly because game gets boring
It’s a steamroll and not fun
quasi shoal
It’s a steamroll and not fun
that's why you play minors
solemn bay
Unhistorical games are something else
quasi shoal
Unhistorical games are something else
isn't there a focus for that
smoky fiber
Unhistorical games are something else
what the
solemn bay
isn't there a focus for that
I think, still wild tho lol
quasi shoal
Unhistorical games are something else
are you soviets
restive sable
good game
solemn bay
Yes
smoky fiber
I should play as a Guanxi Clique and take over China and Japan
waxen oyster
Yee I’ll prob try out communist china. I think it wasn’t fav before the change lol
restive sable
Based Pole ❤️🩹
first time trying this path
not my favorite but it's still pretty fun
restive sable
why did u have mercy on germany
allies took it
atomic grove
oh
smoky fiber
Finish them off
quasi shoal
allies took it
sounds like there's 2 targets
smoky fiber
No mercy full military strength
restive sable
Finish them off
sounds painful i dont know if i wanna
smoky fiber
And then Liberate Japanese Russia, Incorporate it into your Puppet and Make Japan a Protectorate/Puppet
restive sable
And then Liberate Japanese Russia, Incorporate it into your Puppet and Make Japa...
i'd puppet the russian lands japan has and make a third russian puppet
quasi shoal
And then Liberate Japanese Russia, Incorporate it into your Puppet and Make Japa...
or annex
it all
smoky fiber
Tlide and Annex all ENTER
quasi shoal
Tlide and Annex all ENTER
no compliance then
worn cliff
i like playing hungary
restive sable
fascist hungary non historical is very fun
fascist king?
smoky fiber
Bet
restive sable
why's your name "kingdom of hungary" then
smoky fiber
Any Monarchy in hoi4 = Non-Aligned and if Constitutional Democratic
worn cliff
idk thats what it does when you proclaim greater hungary
restive sable
weird
smoky fiber
I forgot To Declare the new order before I made the East Reichkommarsats or however you spell it
restive sable
fascist hungary non historical is very fun
adding it to the list of things to do
smoky fiber
Tomorrow im not going to continue Germany save I will make hungary save
Actually I did play Hungary 1 time I imediately went to war with Austria and Lost
opaque zinc
I dont understand why you are mad as it seems you are Italy
im not
im romania im just their ally
cinder adder
bro i have to wait 85 days until my messages don’t say likely a spammer
smoky fiber
Ok
smoky fiber
bro i have to wait 85 days until my messages don’t say likely a spammer
Thats weird
cinder adder
Thats weird
it’s cause my account got hacked a while back and the hacker spammed a lot of messages
small latch
yo
smoky fiber
it’s cause my account got hacked a while back and the hacker spammed a lot of me...
Sad
small latch
guys in latest dlcs and updates, had germany been nerfed or soviet union significantly buffed ?
smoky fiber
I spend it all on Gum and Random stuff
small latch
the problem is i played with mods, had super buffed germany and could barely gain any soviet territory
the whole point was to see how quickly i could destroy the soviets, i crushed the allies except britain but soviet union was a wall
uncut pollen
They never win now
What do You mean by that?
small latch
I barrely was able to get to Moscow
historically accurate lol
smoky fiber
historically accurate lol
They were 14 kilometers away thats very close
small latch
i thought thats what u meant on ur playthrough
small latch
for me i think i barely pushed 30km then all red bubble and deficit on equipment
i think its new mefo bills system that scramble economy quickly
smoky fiber
They reached Königsberg and then I pushed them back to Moscow and we Juggled Moscow for 5 Months
About to do Operation Sealion
small latch
About to do Operation Sealion
abt that, now i can't invade england anymore
and look at the templates
small latch
then what
smoky fiber
Deploy and send to england
small latch
i got advanced technologies for the time and they couldn't even go through soviet lines in 1940
oh for england
i guess that would be the new tactic
smoky fiber
yeah
small latch
old AI was stupid and would remove navy from the channel when i would put some naval bombers
smoky fiber
I havent researched any so I still have the Tier I naval bomber meanwhile I researched all the US ones by 1944
small latch
i would only use basic ones, around 200 to invade england
but screw it i really don't understand why i can't invade soviets now
smoky fiber
I wish there was a Third scenario or even 4 it would be 1933, 1936, 1939 or 1918, 1933, 1939 for the 3 and for 4 it would be 1918, 1933, 1936, 1939
tulip thorn
tulip thorn
smoky fiber
Or maybe 1861, 1914, 1933, 1939 for 4 and 1776, 1861, 1914, 1939
finite plume
What is this magnificent art blessing my eyes rn
tulip thorn
What is this magnificent art blessing my eyes rn
My favorite image of all time
finite plume
Anyways I made the great lakes ocean provinces so the colored borders don't look weird now
I can't figure out how to connect it to the Newfoundland sea tho so
For now they're just places to trap a fleet
smoky fiber
Buy Canada ❤️🩹
finite plume
🥀
I should make a Libertarian path for America where your main way of expanding is just buying land
smoky fiber
Penny Pincher it will be called
wait
Far right Conservative Nationalist Libertarian Richy McRicherson path for US 😭
smoky fiber
So useful 😭
I was in cleveland and there was a coast guard boat on it and I was thinking “As if Canada will do anything”
finite plume
I mean in theory
If I made shore bombardment more powerful and you placed a strong navy with AA in the lakes
It could serve as practically an invincible permanent debuff on any attacks to cities like Detroit, Chicago, and Toronto
Tho if you're pushed that far inland you're probably already losing the war to begin with
small latch
I wish there was a Third scenario or even 4 it would be 1933, 1936, 1939 or 1918...
i'm always looking for mods with different ww2 scenarios or that changes 1939 scenario for the best
there's endsieg but out of date or rise of nations but u need a nasa PC
smoky fiber
i'm always looking for mods with different ww2 scenarios or that changes 1939 sc...
1918 would be nice because you could end WW1 and decide what happens after or make it a little longer
finite plume
Now that I think about it
Cause most of Nevada's empty, it's probably gonna be supply hell to fight in
smoky fiber
Why would you have to fight in Navada
finite plume
Why would you have to fight in Navada
If a country invaded the US from the West coast they'd have to
smoky fiber
Yeah but it isnt logical to fight from the pacific if you are in Asia
You will be detected before you get within 2000 kilometers of America
Mainland
Best way is get military acces through USSR and Invade US in Alaska
Or just play as Soviets and do that
fair herald
If i declare war on Turkey while at war with the allies, will they call in germany aslo? or will they just join the allies?
cedar lance
hello yalls
tulip thorn
Hello
cedar lance
my gums hurt
tulip thorn
That sucks
quasi shoal
If i declare war on Turkey while at war with the allies, will they call in germa...
if you're not allied to germany, they'll call in germany
and join the allies
lapis prairie
lapis prairie
yo assign your factories
Dont have any resources
quasi shoal
that you getting 114 civs
fair herald
if you're not allied to germany, they'll call in germany
I made my own faction, I guess Ill have to take them out when germany invades the Soviets
quasi shoal
Dont have any resources
have you tried getting off of free trade
lapis prairie
also tf is you exporting
East india company baby
fair herald
I managed to successfuly naval invade britain, second time since GTTMRNG released
quasi shoal
East india company baby
trade for your resources to make guns then ✌️
lapis prairie
quasi shoal
I managed to successfuly naval invade britain, second time since GTTMRNG release...
GTTMRNG 😭
fair herald
by calling in 1 billion africa puppets
quasi shoal
atp just don't even abreviate it
quasi shoal
are you not allowed to import steel bruh
quasi shoal
gotterdamerrung
you practically alr are
lapis prairie
are you not allowed to import steel bruh
Ion wanna waste factorys
quasi shoal
say GDG or sumn
lapis prairie
Im buying land
fair herald
you practically alr are
like 6-7 extra letters
atomic grove
like 6-7 extra letters
then just gotter
fair herald
then just gotter
gutter
atomic grove
or sum
quasi shoal
Im buying land
guns are better trust
lapis prairie
guns are better trust
I own like 60% of Asia
lapis prairie
so start making guns 🔥
I have like 36 divs total
And I'm not joining in on the Cold war right now because I don't want to go against Russia and China
tulip thorn
Got to be one of my more interesting wars
Also might be the weakest i've ever seen the soviets
(Im sweden btw)
lapis prairie
alr
tulip thorn
cedar lance
@tulip thorn hello
tulip thorn
glad sun
how good are the jungle/forest inf
tulip thorn
how good are the jungle/forest inf
The forest rangers are actually really good
glad sun
The forest rangers are actually really good
Better than marine?
cedar lance
i like the Ranger unit a LOT
tulip thorn
Better than marine?
Depends on the situation
Marines are better for marsh, rivers and naval invasions
While the forest rangers are well better in any type of forest tile
glad sun
Like for philipines you think rangers?
cedar lance
alr
glad sun
I'd say ranger mountaineers
Makes sense
warped flint
should I play belgium or something else
tulip thorn
Makes sense
Are you going to be naval invading?
glad sun
i did make a couple few Ranger templates
Imo special forces only good to invest as small nation
glad sun
Are you going to be naval invading?
Im doing amtracs
cedar lance
Imo special forces only good to invest as small nation
wdym
glad sun
for naval
tulip thorn
Special forces can be good for majors aswell
cedar lance
alr
tulip thorn
Italy is amazing with Air and Special forces
tulip thorn
tbh i do use the Console commands in SP
tulip thorn
to test out stuff
oh ok good
tulip thorn
I love this div so much
tulip thorn
cedar lance
wat
mystic nest
Because full mechanized army is more worth your while with air
Special forces does not take much ic at all
glad sun
I normally go surface navy germany and i cant focus on partroopers ect cause so mich to jugle
glad sun
Special forces does not take much ic at all
Its about research
mystic nest
Special forces does not take much ic at all
What do you have to produce that isn't produced for other countries?
mystic nest
Its about research
You do one line of research
Three researches and you're done for a sf
The support companies like field hospitals flame tanks should be used in your normal divs anyway
tulip thorn
I normally go surface navy germany and i cant focus on partroopers ect cause so ...
No one uses paratroopers anyway
glad sun
Imo as someone who plays super late game (1950s) you should focus early game on building it because you cant snowball as ahrd
tulip thorn
I havent used them in months
mystic nest
Imo as someone who plays super late game (1950s) you should focus early game on ...
Why would you play super late game
You can easily cap all majors by 45
glad sun
Why would you play super late game
Mega death war
tulip thorn
Imo as someone who plays super late game (1950s) you should focus early game on ...
I beat russia with special forces and only took 25k casualties
mystic nest
Mega death war
Doing a wc every run is.. definitely a unique choice
tulip thorn
Special forces can out perform tanks
tulip thorn
Yep
mystic nest
Terrible in most terrain
mystic nest
Need air to prevent deorgs
tulip thorn
mystic nest
Yeah I mean I don't enjoy turning my game into a lag machine
tulip thorn
If you are playing super late game
glad sun
Yeah I mean I don't enjoy turning my game into a lag machine
i bought 64 gigs of ram for this and eu5 lmao
mystic nest
i bought 64 gigs of ram for this and eu5 lmao
64 gifs of ram is still lagging this engine is ass
It's older than some of this games players
glad sun
You gon have it all anyway
Yeh but early game build up matters alot
mystic nest
Yeh but early game build up matters alot
At some point factories don't matter you produce too much of anything you need
clear dagger
i bought 64 gigs of ram for this and eu5 lmao
he has ram, get him!
tulip thorn
he has ram, get him!
mystic nest
At like six hundred factories that's more than needed for wc
tulip thorn
At like six hundred factories that's more than needed for wc
Funny enough, i've never done a world conquest
glad sun
At some point factories don't matter you produce too much of anything you need
Nah recources become the issue when my planes are like 200 cost
mystic nest
Nah recources become the issue when my planes are like 200 cost
Exactly
Factory scaling barely matters of you're playing super late
You get hamstrung by resources
tulip thorn
Whats funny is you dont even need much research for tanks
You just need basic chassis
glad sun
Tbf the best ones are in anti tank tree for anti ai which is kinda annoying since at is bad otherwise
glad sun
wait no they moved it
quasi shoal
I love this div so much
it's above 36 that means it's ASSSS
tulip thorn
it's above 36 that means it's ASSSS
quasi shoal
I love this div so much
regular support artillery that means it's ASSSS
mystic nest
Mp tanks are literally built different
tulip thorn
regular support artillery that means it's ASSSS
quasi shoal
Mp tanks are literally built different
in what way
like the fact that they have a lot of armor or sumn else that idk
tulip thorn
Tell that to the 5 million dead soviets
mystic nest
in what way
More emphasis on heavy tanks
quasi shoal
I hope there's not sumn idk 😭
mystic nest
In sp you pre much never need heavy tanks
quasi shoal
More emphasis on heavy tanks
oh yeah I knew that 
glad sun
Mp tanks are literally built different
MP tanks until someone doesnt go tanks and just does all inf and high peircing
tulip thorn
In sp you pre much never need heavy tanks
Doesnt stop me
glad sun
and then rule change
tulip thorn
heavy tanks my beloved
mystic nest
MP tanks until someone doesnt go tanks and just does all inf and high peircing
That's why some countries go tanks some go inf
Saf goes tanks I think
Usually
tulip thorn
and then rule change
What kind of mp games you playing, Randoms or something lol
quasi shoal
MP tanks until someone doesnt go tanks and just does all inf and high peircing
@devout sphinx yooo us 👀
tulip thorn
I cant be talking, I havent played an mp game in 3 months 💔
glad sun
What kind of mp games you playing, Randoms or something lol
Random lobbys dont have rules who plays some random vannila loby
mystic nest
we decimated soviets
Three player Soviets needs to be standardised
tulip thorn
Random lobbys dont have rules who plays some random vannila loby
When i said random i meant the games that people host here
mystic nest
Soviets need too much micro
quasi shoal
Those are terrible
they all end at like late '38 bruh 😭
tulip thorn
they all end at like late '38 bruh 😭
Most dont even make it past 38
And like a 90% chance that someone crashes the lobby
mystic nest
Most dont even make it past 38
Cuz most people ain't sitting down to play six hours of hoi4
Which is fair
snow rain
And like a 90% chance that someone crashes the lobby
Bad lobby then I must say
Or bad host
tulip thorn
Bad lobby then I must say
Or bad host
Well yeah obviously
devout sphinx
When i said random i meant the games that people host here
js saying u can always play chudhopper mp games idk js saying
devout sphinx
Tell that to the 5 million dead soviets
devout sphinx
1 million casualties
i started battleplanning dats why brada
tulip thorn
i started battleplanning dats why brada
I havent done a battleplan in months
I love micro way to much
devout sphinx
Then why dont u play mp brah
heavy vigil
tulip thorn
Hello casey
cedar lance
@heavy vigil hello
heavy vigil
<@498446257807818762> hello
cedar lance
wat? XD
inland falcon
cedar lance
im crying Rn
glad sun
me when no garrison of tokyo
strong belfry
man turn of the nato symbols
glad sun
man turn of the nato symbols
Why?
jade ore
man turn of the nato symbols
you like having fun and easy to understand symbols
i like having complex symbols with like 20 different varieties of one unit we are not the same
strong belfry
weirdest flex ever
jade ore
not a flex bro ✌️
strong belfry
strong belfry
sovviet should get a update as well
plain mesa
at doing mods
jade ore
sovviet should get a update as well
this i agree with
plain mesa
sovviet should get a update as well
true
jade ore
and they might even do it idk the last time thy got a rework
plain mesa
or like a japan and china dlc
jade ore
they already did that ❓
plain mesa
they are so old
tulip thorn
germany monarchist path should get a rework
it already did
strong belfry
i aint buying another dlc bro
plain mesa
what???
tulip thorn
The soviets already got a rework
jade ore
thats the most recent dlc bro
jade ore
The soviets already got a rework
when
plain mesa
holy shit
strong belfry
No step back
bro
strong belfry
im bored of current focus tree of sovviet
tulip thorn
jade ore
the balancing is terrible on the eastern front
plain mesa
anyone tryna have a vanila game???
strong umbra
oh my god
plain mesa
strong umbra
why do u have to keep using that
tulip thorn
why do u have to keep using that
Because I can
strong belfry
speed in the big 2026
jade ore
❓❓❓❓
tulip thorn
jade ore
yep ur getting banned bro 💀
plain mesa
no im not
tulip thorn
yes you are
tulip thorn
Lets test that theory
tulip thorn
You'll see
plain mesa
ill see
jade ore
theyh reporting u bro 💔
strong belfry
🤔
plain mesa
ok
tulip thorn
Nice
plain mesa
ban me
jade ore
alr
plain mesa
quick
jade ore
ur not funny
tulip thorn
Got the screenshot aswell
plain mesa
im doing a test run
jade ore
cornball of all time
strong belfry
kk
jade ore
no one thinks ur funny bro
plain mesa
thats the ting
plain mesa
no one thinks ur funny bro
that is what im doing
strong belfry
thats the ting
hit the gym
jade ore
that is what im doing
edgiest 12 year old in ur friend group 100%
tulip thorn
im a hoi4 player🥀
plain mesa
what mod should i play??
strong belfry
i will not hit the gym
jade ore
getting banned on ur main and coming back on ur alt is mad corny
tulip thorn
You were indeed, not superior
jade ore
bro is so desperate for attention
lost fossil
what mod should i play??
i only came back for a good mod
tulip thorn
i only came back for a good mod
Using alts is also against the rules :)
lost fossil
jade ore
brso defo gonna be sending this to all his friends 🤣 🤣 !!!!
strange stratus
Why im not getting the achievment Monarchy is Back in Fashion
I did assasinate musolini and itlay is controlled by Victor emanuele
snow rain
any tips on how i get a foothold in the uk late game
lots of CAS and good divs
eternal palm
Why im not getting the achievment Monarchy is Back in Fashion
I did assasinate ...
Is Italy in faction with you
strange stratus
Is Italy in faction with you
Nevermind i was playing with kaiser III
Not kaiser II
eternal palm
At least get the names right 😭
mint acorn
Can anyone think of any good 2 player alliances that are somewhat unique
vital cove
Can anyone think of any good 2 player alliances that are somewhat unique
for multiplayer with another person?
japan china
finland sweden
heavy vigil
Can anyone think of any good 2 player alliances that are somewhat unique
ethiopia aussa, turkiye iran, mex can, bra arg, els peru, port spain
eternal palm
finland sweden
Both are awful what
mint acorn
for multiplayer with another person?
Yh i have a friend who im trying to get to venture out of playing democratic usa
eternal palm
Can anyone think of any good 2 player alliances that are somewhat unique
Bulgaria Poland
mint acorn
Bulgaria Poland
What government
mint acorn
Plc?
vital cove
Both are awful what
wanted to give something interesting not necessarily strong
eternal palm
wanted to give something interesting not necessarily strong
Both are shit though
mint acorn
Doesn’t poland annex lithuania in that
eternal palm
Both need each other to do anything
eternal palm
Doesn’t poland annex lithuania in that
Yea
So what
If Lithuania does it ger cant do Danzig
mint acorn
Id have to annex him and his game would be over
eternal palm
Id have to annex him and his game would be over
What?
No I meant do Lithuania and Bulgaria
And Lithuania does plc
eternal palm
How does bulgaria allign with poland tho wouldn’t they be in separate alliances
Just make a faction
mint acorn
They both have separate faction focuses
eternal palm
They both have separate faction focuses
Yea and? Only Bulgaria needs it. Poland can just not do it's focus
mint acorn
What path would bulgaria do
eternal palm
What path would bulgaria do
Prob communist
Then do Balkan federation
It needs a faction for that
mint acorn
So a monarchist and a comunist alliance that seems rather farfetched
digital solstice
How can i play with Indepedent state of Croatia (that is German puppet)
snow rain
How can i play with Indepedent state of Croatia (that is German puppet)
you mean play as ?
digital solstice
Yes
snow rain
well, without using console ("tag cro") you need to annex yugoslavia and then release croatia while ticking the "play as"
you can also release it through game settings in the country selection screen
maybe yugo can release croatia itself but you can't do so through a focus
also, I can't empthize this enough but you shouldn't be playing any country that isn't on the map at the start of the game, even more so about a country with no manpower, no resources, no industry and an extremely precarious position
digital solstice
Okay,thanks
leaden oyster
anyone got a vid with the meta tank and inf divisions
timber laurel
well, without using console ("tag cro") you need to annex yugoslavia and then re...
or you can get lucky and yugoslavia will accept their fate
with the focus tree
quiet vessel
which ideology should have a civil war as romania in my mod?
communist
democratic
fascist
timber laurel
which ideology should have a civil war as romania in my mod?
communist
democrati...
fascist
heavy vigil
which ideology should have a civil war as romania in my mod?
communist
democrati...
all
rain loom
what nations are good for learning how to use air?
eternal palm
what nations are good for learning how to use air?
UK, USA, Japan
astral turret
How can i play with Indepedent state of Croatia (that is German puppet)
You can try and play as italy and release yourself as croatia
prisma saddle
if i change a militia template i still get the bonuses?
like i add 3 elmets
or supoport companies
digital solstice
And i m new player,what should i do with croatia then,in hoi 4?
mystic nest
holy ratios
digital solstice
You can try and play as italy and release yourself as croatia
And i m new player,what should i do with croatia then,in hoi 4?
mystic nest
You can try and play as italy and release yourself as croatia
does croatia even have afocus tree?
tulip thorn
does croatia even have afocus tree?
no
astral turret
It can have that focus tree that austria can make that small shared focus tree
tulip thorn
no i hate civil wars
Require one for the communists
astral turret
Forgot how its called
tulip thorn
why is he playing as croatia??
My guess is that they are from Croatia
astral turret
It has the default tree plus that one shared focus tree that austria and hungary get
tulip thorn
Very common for people to want to play as their home nation in hoi4
coral gorge
hmm
mystic nest
Very common for people to want to play as their home nation in hoi4
playing as australia is goddam torture
tulip thorn
playing as australia is goddam torture
Playing as the united states is boring
digital solstice
My guess is that they are from Croatia
Yes
coral gorge
never forget
mystic nest
Playing as the united states is boring
yes
coral gorge
generic focus tree is still focus tree
tulip thorn
My first nation wasnt even my home country, I played germany
coral gorge
if it can walk, it shall walk
tulip thorn
Beat the french and polish
tulip thorn
Then died to the soviets
mystic nest
generic focus tree is still focus tree
i would not wish playing the generic focus tree on my worst enemy
mystic nest
My first nation wasnt even my home country, I played germany
same
digital solstice
And what i need to do,i m begginer,does i need to start war,or
mystic nest
i think most peoples first was germany
mystic nest
And what i need to do,i m begginer,does i need to start war,or
dude croatia should niot be your first country
play something like italy
tulip thorn
And what i need to do,i m begginer,does i need to start war,or
Dont play Croatia as your first nation
mystic nest
you will nto learn any of the games mechanics
digital solstice
Smh bro dosent want to play as tito fake croat🥀 🥀 💔
Many people dont know,he killed many croats
heavy vigil
you will nto learn any of the games mechanics
?
astral turret
Many people dont know,he killed many croats
Yes back then we were fascist
mystic nest
?
crotia doesnt have the industry to learn the ups and downs of equipment
doesnt have a focus tree to understand the benefits of picking focus orders
doesnt have the mp to start and sustian large wars
astral turret
I started my first plays
as tannu tuva and learend the basic stufd
mystic nest
its not a good starting country
heavy vigil
crotia doesnt have the industry to learn the ups and downs of equipment
first mechanic you learn: manpower and equipment needed to make a unit
tulip thorn
Ok to be fair, the generic tree still has focus orders
digital solstice
In general, what should I do in the game?
tulip thorn
Some focuses are way better than others
mystic nest
Ok to be fair, the generic tree still has focus orders
yeah but extremely basic and it barely applies to other focus trees, as most other focus trees have things you need to do specific to that country
like the ussr's purge
astral turret
In general, what should I do in the game?
U have all dlcs?
digital solstice
Edit political,civil war,army...
mystic nest
first mechanic you learn: manpower and equipment needed to make a unit
he wont have mp or industry to play around is what i meant
digital solstice
U have all dlcs?
I just download hoi4
mystic nest
when beginning playing around is important
heavy vigil
he wont have mp or industry to play around is what i meant
400 weekly
tulip thorn
If you are new new watch a tutorial
tulip thorn
I just download hoi4
I'd suggest watching a tutorial then
digital solstice
If you are new new watch a tutorial
Where is tutorial?
heavy vigil
that's.. not enough to experiment
idk pup learned a lot playing like rwanda until it got bored
digital solstice
https://youtu.be/WCqXIRRVZIY?si=XL7mhGo7aNmS57IT
Thanks
mystic nest
idk pup learned a lot playing like rwanda until it got bored
yeah but for most people starting with a major / semi major is the best way
mystic nest
im not denying that some people might learn better from playing a nation with no resources and industry
but like it deosnt give anyone the chance to screw around and find out what works
what the hell is an airforce???
trying no air sovviets only 18w infantry
no tanks
heavy vigil
what the hell is an airforce???
challenge
ussr vanilla hist game but you cant build mils
mystic nest
ussr vanilla hist game but you cant build mils
😭
i mean
it MIGHT be barely possible
the focuses do give a few mils
tulip thorn
Civ greed soviet build fr fr
mystic nest
Civ greed soviet build fr fr
top 10 moments before disaster
tulip thorn
the focuses do give a few mils
Buy a shit ton of equipment
International market is a powerful thing
mystic nest
soviets star twith like 50 convoys or something 💀
tulip thorn
I've had runs saved by nations selling alot of guns and support equipment
heavy vigil
the focuses do give a few mils
baltics too
mystic nest
yeah
heavy vigil
should be fine for a decent player really
mystic nest
ill give civ only ussr a shot then
idk how ill fix my convoy situation for the market though
heavy vigil
you can make dockyards, forts, AA whatever
wary rampart
How do you guys use planning bounes for micro does it still work?
tulip thorn
Its more than possible
hollow silo
finally it has ended
mystic nest
what do i put on a flame tank btw
does anyone have a flame tank template
@tulip thorn
tulip thorn
Roughly this I think
mystic nest
ight
tulip thorn
Mine has the lower speed and stuff because im using it on special forces
kind fiber
XI-an incident never fired... Now I'm stuck with chiang in the fascist tree.... Is there a way to still get rid of him?
tulip thorn
I usually use Christie suspension
mystic nest
Roughly this I think
whats these 2?
tulip thorn
Thats upgraded flame turret
tulip thorn
and that other one is armor skirts
it gives 3 break
You should always rush level 2 flame gun
errant remnant
Neither LOL i was saudi
viscid mason
Neither LOL i was saudi
Damn. Did they have a focus tree or a formable?
errant remnant
Damn. Did they have a focus tree or a formable?
Nah i buffed EVERY country and nerfed saudi to the maxto see if i could still make a empire
this is only 1942 too LMAO
mystic nest
bugradox
errant remnant
Nah i buffed EVERY country and nerfed saudi to the maxto see if i could still ma...
i was extremly hard man
unique cliff
how do i end a war with a nation across the world where neither of us can cause eachother any harm?
errant remnant
how do i end a war with a nation across the world where neither of us can cause ...
Navy or get allies near them
atomic grove
how do i end a war with a nation across the world where neither of us can cause ...
kill them
unique cliff
brother how do i kill indonesia as belgium
atomic grove
other than that u cant
errant remnant
LOL
atomic grove
brother how do i kill indonesia as belgium
maybe get mil access from nearby countries near indonesia
send ur navy there
and from one of those countries, naval invade indonesia
unique cliff
which one of these is a better choice?
atomic grove
which one of these is a better choice?
it depends
if u want more resources in a state
atomic grove
get the one that gives more per infra
atomic grove
im belgium that only has benelux
then dont
it aint worth it imo
u dont have that much civs
unique cliff
i have 50
atomic grove
u can build one ig
mystic nest
what year is this
atomic grove
50 civs as belgium
fr
unique cliff
1940
mystic nest
BROTHER
atomic grove
he prob went vnv belgium
mystic nest
YOU NEEDED TO START BUILDING MILS YSTERDAY
unique cliff
no, rex
atomic grove
maybe
unique cliff
YOU NEEDED TO START BUILDING MILS YSTERDAY
i am
unique cliff
unique cliff
i dont
atomic grove
dont build nuclear facility
atomic grove
u will never get nukes as belgium
atomic grove
trust me
unique cliff
its fun
mystic nest
get the land warfare facility
unique cliff
get the land warfare facility
for what
atomic grove
i never got to a point of using any of them in any of my playthrough
u should
they are very useful
mystic nest
i never got to a point of using any of them in any of my playthrough
wtf?
flame tanks are literally broken
and cevs are great
flame tanks are the best support company
in the game probably
unique cliff
my knowledge of designing tanks and divisions on my own are nonexistent
i just do infantry and air and goodluck
atomic grove
i just do infantry and air and goodluck
why u playing rex belgium if u dont plan on making self propelled arty/aa 
germany is gonna go for u
i think
are they?
mystic nest
my knowledge of designing tanks and divisions on my own are nonexistent
flame tanks are broken
like
always use them
unique cliff
its nonhistorical
axis went historical and its like
ridicilously strong
so i dont really know what to do when im surrounded and dont wanna join them
mystic nest
you get cooked
probaly shouldve gone space marines if the axis is really strong then
and you dont wanna join them
heavy vigil
atomic grove
its nonhistorical
axis went historical and its like
ridicilously strong
so i do...
thats why u need to make some armored stuff
especially spaa
to hold them back
heavy vigil
thats why u need to make some armored stuff
special forces
heavy vigil
hes belgium
start with rangers and mountaineers
atomic grove
he cant make that much
heavy vigil
easy
atomic grove
start with rangers and mountaineers
idk if he has gbp
unique cliff
so its me as belgium and axis is germany, bohemia, italy, hungary, switzerland
unique cliff
idk if he has gbp
yes, by default
atomic grove
so its me as belgium and axis is germany, bohemia, italy, hungary, switzerland
ur at war with the axis?
atomic grove
yes, by default
get that one army spirit that gives +24 special forces cap
the middle one
i forgot the name
mystic nest
god pushing under red air is terrible
atomic grove
get that one army spirit that gives +24 special forces cap
also make 30 width ranger divs if u can afterwards
if u cant do that then mountaineers are also fine
mystic nest
im too spoilt by my cas instantly deorging everything
atomic grove
idk if u have any of them researched
unique cliff
i took the netherlands before them
they just took france, but i didnt manage to snatch any land
atomic grove
oh
unique cliff
just some puppets
atomic grove
ur in the axis?
unique cliff
no
atomic grove
oh
unique cliff
so my puppets are congo, guyana, cambodia, laos, gabon
mystic nest
dang most of them dont do anything
atomic grove
so my puppets are congo, guyana, cambodia, laos, gabon
france capped?
atomic grove
oh
unique cliff
now turkey joined the axis
always when i wanna go fascist, the world goes fascist
or communist then everyone goes communist
i can never be different
atomic grove
show ss of the map
unique cliff
ussr had a civil war
uk is communist
europe is axis
basically i need paris and berlin for the achievement
atomic grove
u might be cooked
unique cliff
yeah i see
atomic grove
u dont core dutch right?
unique cliff
i basically gave up on the achievement, but im wondering what else can i do in this save
no
thinking about joining the axis and see if i can snatch any other achievement
are rangers any good?
atomic grove
are rangers any good?
yes
atomic grove
u should
but u only have 24 divs
i dont think you can hold all of the benelux with that
unique cliff
against?
unique cliff
yeah im thinking that i join them
and try to get some other achievement
cus i dont think i can (or wanna) get paris and berlin for the achievement i wanted to get originally
unique cliff
Having air and tanks is overrated /s
wait i have a picture for you
here is my least bloody benelux conflict
when should i have what?
mystic nest
when should i have what?
depends on countries
some countries that can afford to civ greed like brazil can ru free trade
but as a rule usually i leave free trade by the time i really start building mils
mystic nest
some countries that can afford to civ greed like brazil can ru free trade
also if you ahve a ton of natural resources like america in the early stages
unique cliff
and at this point, what should i run?
open box or envelope
late 1940
and i use a lot of civs for trade (cus free trade)
unique cliff
i love free trade for that +10 research bonus
atomic grove
i love free trade for that +10 research bonus
i recommend export focus
the 80% resources to market trade also counts the resources u get from resource rights in ur puppets
mystic nest
i recommend export focus
hes in 1940
atomic grove
hes in 1940
he needs civs
unique cliff
hmm, why cant i put any missions for my ships?
mystic nest
hmm, why cant i put any missions for my ships?
send it to a port
atomic grove
he needs more civs to use for building
unique cliff
they are in the port
mystic nest
he needs more civs to use for building
fair enough, i dont know if belgium has taht much resources though
atomic grove
hmm, why cant i put any missions for my ships?
right click+ctrl on saigon
mystic nest
how am ibattlplanning with 18w infantry under red air and getting 15: 1 casulaty raitos
the german ai is GONE
void eagle
toxic cypress
mystic nest
no mil factories on inf equipments oviet run
is this possibl
im tempted to try it
no buyign equipment from international market either
heavy vigil
is this possibl
if you early war
unique cliff
when should i puppet, when should i annex?
im talking about things like african or asian countries while im in europe
mystic nest
always annex cores
heavy vigil
when should i puppet, when should i annex?
im talking about things like african ...
puppet when no manpower to garrison/no compliance maybe
otherwise annex more eco
heavy vigil
also, puppet for cleaner borders haha
could liberate for that
rigid coral
What infantry template do you use for early game germany?
unique cliff
could liberate for that
mmmmm only when democratic, for roleplay purposes
mystic nest
What infantry template do you use for early game germany?
are you going to be using tanks or not
mystic nest
also, puppet for cleaner borders haha
player led peace conferences
rigid coral
are you going to be using tanks or not
Yes
unique cliff
player led peace conferences
no achievements
void eagle
weekly 2000 manpower is crazy
mystic nest
no achievements
this gamesa chievemnts are wayyy tooc ooked for me to even try to get them
sso i just gave up lol
unique cliff
and it doesnt turn off achievements?
rigid coral
then 18w infantry with support aa, support artillery and engineers
Thank you very much
void eagle
this gamesa chievemnts are wayyy tooc ooked for me to even try to get them
I got em all
bronze mango
weekly 2000 manpower is crazy
Iraq can get that much with its focus tree in vanilla
heavy vigil
and it doesnt turn off achievements?
nope
void eagle
I got em all
all of the achievements in 265 hours
mystic nest
I got em all
mgiht be time to retire
void eagle
all of the achievements in 265 hours
is it good?
unique cliff
is camouflage trait worth it?
mystic nest
how does germany have 40% of vps mate wtf
void eagle
mgiht be time to retire
I can't sleep cuz I played too much hoi 4 in a month
heavy vigil
is camouflage trait worth it?
strongest trait yes
void eagle
how does germany have 40% of vps mate wtf
did u forget Japan?
mystic nest
strongest trait yes
even with your own cas damage reduciton?
heavy vigil
even with your own cas damage reduciton?
just dont use it if you have green air ? also it doesnt hurt
mystic nest
well nwo it has 35 cuz i ran the game a bit
void eagle
wdym forget japan
Japan didn't declare war on u?
mystic nest
just dont use it if you have green air ? also it doesnt hurt
fair enough i usualyl have green air anyway
which is hwy i never take it
mystic nest
Japan didn't declare war on u?
why would they
im historical ussr
and japan declaring on me doesnt change the amoutn of vps germany has
void eagle
why would they
ur playing the soviet's
heavy vigil
fair enough i usualyl have green air anyway
if you have gen and FM with the traits and garrison neutral land its still -75% cas on 72 units
void eagle
all achievements in 300h
in a month
mystic nest
if you have gen and FM with the traits and garrison neutral land its still -75% ...
ah fair
void eagle
and 2.2k hours
I was too addicted
unique cliff
i never know which one to choose
unique cliff
huh, thats what i was doing 100% of the time
void eagle
i love doing roman empire
then Australia becomes a major
unique cliff
and here?
heavy vigil
i never know which one to choose
artyleria obleznicza is meta
toxic cypress
then Australia becomes a major
ez
rome rules the waves
when we lose
we rebuild
toxic cypress
void eagle
the largest army I built was 56 Millon
void eagle
the largest army I built was 56 Millon
as the soviets
mystic nest
then Australia becomes a major
waiting for the day australia can become a major
void eagle
waiting for the day australia can become a major
I hate when it happens one time Bhutan BHUTAN BECOMED A MAJOR
stats good?
mystic nest
16.8 million tanks built? Are these real stats
186 years at wat
War
Brorher
There's no way these stats are real
void eagle
16.8 million tanks built? Are these real stats
that one is fake
mystic nest
that one is fake
Fake?
void eagle
it was a meme mod
mystic nest
Yeah mate 464 years in game
void eagle
Yeah mate 464 years in game
the most I played was till 1960 why does it show 464 years
heavy vigil
Yeah mate 464 years in game
thats total
void eagle
does the mods count?
heavy vigil
does the mods count?
yes
mystic nest
thats total
16.8 million tanks produced?
void eagle
But 16.8mil tanks is??
kaiser redux morroco path
heavy vigil
16.8 million tanks produced?
across all nations all time afaik
void eagle
kaiser redux morroco path
prob that's why
mystic nest
across all nations all time afaik
Is that even doable if you're not focusing on tank production
In 200 hours
void eagle
kaiser redux morroco path
cored the world and got a lot of buffs
void eagle
50 aces shot??
I don't do air
mystic nest
All achievements in 260 hours while not doing air is crazy
void eagle
I do air if it's for a achievement
spice pecan
Hello guys, is there some hoi4 Veteran who could help me with some tactics?
Reason is me and 3 friends want to play 2v2. We have one who just started, 2 who know basic and one who actualy understands something..
We want to play belgium + Germany v Portugal + italy
toxic cypress
what is that loss ratio god dam
lusty river
RAHHHH MENGUKUO PATCH NOTES!!!
toxic cypress
800 hours unmodded
mystic sand
Day 500 of asking Paradox to add a white peace option for the war in the pacific
They did it for Siberia they can do it for the islands
toxic cypress
lusty river
the stupid greater mongolia formable should not need hulunbir but should give a claim on it that you can integrate because idk who will fight japan as mengjiang
imo
mystic sand
the stupid greater mongolia formable should not need hulunbir but should give a ...
True
lusty river
idk why but i am obsessed with the warlords, especially mengjiang
mystic sand
Paradox really needs to lock in with not making formables require a world conquest
They did it well with the African union paths
lusty river
we need more formables that dont need ALL cores but gives cores
lusty river
the stupid greater mongolia formable should not need hulunbir but should give a ...
like this
wait if i change the japanese ai to do shogun/emperor path will they attack north instead of south?
mystic sand
I like formables that allow you to integrate more lands as you control them, like the siberian and caucuses paths
lusty river
I like formables that allow you to integrate more lands as you control them, lik...
YEAA
mystic sand
Gives a good feeling of progression
toxic cypress
bulgaria super powa
toxic cypress
bulgaria super powa
67
lusty river
i love the changes to mengjiang
mystic sand
Even the reichskommisariates do something like that
lusty river
they dont have a focus but they lowkey feel fun to play
mint narwhal
anyone know the name of the hoi4 multiplayer mod that allows you to sell states for money?