hoi4-general

[safe wing]

Japan did send destroyers to the Mediterranean to help hunt German and Austro Hungarian U boats

[patent thistle]

doesnt exactly help japans case of minor help

[obtuse yew]

I’m gonna spam reports to this mod bradar

[sharp sierra]

ww1 actually started on the night the titanic sank

[obtuse yew]

I hate it

Cuz of you

[heavy vigil]

subs did like nothing in ww1

because they sucked

[sharp sierra]

except sink the titanic

[safe wing]

They only joined to get stuff they wanted

[patent thistle]

do whatever you want at this point it aint even my mod

[safe wing]

They helped get the USA in the war though

[obtuse yew]

Bradar are you happy now

[heavy vigil]

meh

[patent thistle]

they did kinda open the worlds eyes atleast to the potential to submarines

[safe wing]

Still did more than the German High Seas Fleet

Fun fact the Confederate states of America made the first submarine to see military service

[patent thistle]

jutland was numbers wise a victory for germany but stratigically for the UK because the naval high command of germany were cowards and didnt actually persuit

[safe wing]

CSS Huntley

[heavy vigil]

they had a battle

[sharp sierra]

they had a hoi4 battle

[safe wing]

A battle that didn’t change anything

[heavy vigil]

it did

it changed the fact that ships had the thought of leaving port

[safe wing]

True

I was referring to the tactical situation

[patent thistle]

stratigically it was a victory to the UK given it basically placed the german fleet between a rock and a hard place because they fleed

[safe wing]

Best admiral was Admiral Yi from Korea

Change my mind

[patent thistle]

like the losses numbers wise germany was a clear victor but they didnt persuit anything

[safe wing]

He won battles out numbered as much as 10-1

[patent thistle]

too little too late

[obtuse yew]

🥷nowadays mentioning random people

[heavy rover]

son 💀

[obtuse yew]

Hi taco

[obtuse yew]

Guy

Bradar are you Wikipedia historian or what?

[heavy rover]

bradar delete tis

[sharp sierra]

bradar me glutes hurt

[safe wing]

Why

[patent thistle]

wasnt it the time japan tried the funny in korea without being prepared

?

[safe wing]

Yup

It was a way for the Shogun to get rid of the Samurai who had nothing to do

[patent thistle]

turtle ships carried koreas victory fr fr

[patent thistle]

only for it to lead to the very shogun being overthrown

[safe wing]

His son

He died before the war finished

[heavy rover]

wdym

[obtuse yew]

Bradar is this detal mick?

[patent thistle]

let me change my saying, the dynasty being overthrown*

[obtuse yew]

Bradar I checked out your stream profile saw the Brazil flag

I don’t know if you guys also eat taco

[safe wing]

By the Tokugawa clan

[patent thistle]

didnt it also kinda lead to japanese fracturing?

[safe wing]

Yes And then Japan went into isolation for 250 years

[heavy rover]

son checked even my steam profile 🥀🥀🥀

[obtuse yew]

Hey bradar what are those words

I hope you will eat dorse hick

[heavy rover]

fak you bradar

[obtuse yew]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-ice-baby-vanilla-ice-rap-musiv-video-gif-11959717673329722264

[heavy rover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928390486044074044/1450162078076895242/gwkking-sticker.gif

[twin nebula]

Can someone tell me what's changed between April 2025 to now with the Coal System and stuff?

[safe wing]

Basically the more factories you have the more coal you consume

This isn’t a problem as most majors

[heavy rover]

also fuel

[safe wing]

Unless it’s Italy

[obtuse yew]

https://tenor.com/view/goatis-rage-smash-rage-quit-goatis-angry-gif-12096712495816644243

[heavy rover]

bwahaha 😈

[obtuse yew]

Just change the game version bradar never stress about it

[twin nebula]

I wanna buy NCNS and Gotterdamerung but ugh, getting both together is like £40 but having the new Alt History Paths for Germany and Japan would be really nice 😩

[heavy rover]

pay the subscription

[obsidian sigil]

does stealing blueprint mission only give research bonus

i kinda wanna steal a special project

[twin nebula]

I don't wanna.

I prefer owning my DLC

[heavy rover]

too bad

[obtuse yew]

Bradar my advice to you

Hop on arc raiders

[vocal bolt]

ok so I am thinking of gettin sum dlc

just the bare minimum

I already have the free ones

I am thinking la resistance and no step back

[twin nebula]

What do you mean?

Just because I want to own my DLC.

[vocal bolt]

200 dollars

if ur new just get a month of subsribtion

see if you actually want to step that much money

[twin nebula]

I already have most of the DLCs...

[vocal bolt]

dont the new ones suck ass

[twin nebula]

Like this is from the Steam Store Page, as I said, I already own most of them. ^

[vocal bolt]

I only have the free ones

and I paid for them lmfao

[sudden thistle]

the top 8 is all u need

[obtuse yew]

What are the free ones now

[vocal bolt]

everything up to and including man the guns

I bought when they werent free

[obtuse yew]

I want my money back

[vocal bolt]

been years afaik

also you got a bazillion hours prob

also they cant even if they wanted to

they delisted the dlcs

[obtuse yew]

I have 1,348h

[vocal bolt]

you cant refund them without refundig the whole game

[obtuse yew]

But

[vocal bolt]

they merged the dlcs into basegame

[obtuse yew]

I played this game like

5 months ago

[patent thistle]

why was stalin found in MY territory-

[paper echo]

rip czechia

[sage anvil]

i love

[wary dove]

Is this the eastern front version of dunkirk?

[vocal bolt]

need more divs

[inland falcon]

historically accurate

[late trout]

Barbarossa without the spy dlc is absolute hell

i have to march all the way past the urals just to capitulate the ussr

[languid patrol]

what happens when resistence gets to 100%?

[vivid juniper]

They revolt

[languid patrol]

wow

good one

this will surely save the soviets

[twin nebula]

Same.

[twin nebula]

Wdym?

[late trout]

Did you put no garrisons as the occupation law

[languid patrol]

no

martial law

im sweden

no man power

[obsidian sigil]

Is this video still accurate https://youtu.be/hnadb44fyUI?si=vM5dxG0SCPn4iOHw

[vocal bolt]

how do I get better

I just feel like am copying tutorials

[heavy flicker]

i just did learning by doing and yt

[strong belfry]

guys im eating 1 kilo raw river every day is it good for my muscles

[vocal bolt]

I always feel like there is too much to do

I dont know when to do which focus

or construct what

[heavy flicker]

since when ur playing?

[vocal bolt]

hard to say

I original started in like 2022

played for 70 hours or so

am just getting back into it now

I forgot everything

[heavy flicker]

ah ok

just watch "normal" hoi4 content and play the game like u feel do random fokuses

that was my way

[sage anvil]

ihaveanidea

[inland falcon]

honestly, great way to start

tutorials, then eventually branch out

[twin nebula]

What DLC should I get if I do have to get one to start playing this game again? Cause I do not enjoy lacking the alt history paths of a country.

[safe wing]

Gotterdamerung because historical Germany and Hungary are fun

Also special projects

[twin nebula]

Yeah fair but I want NCNS for the Alt Hist Japan Paths but ugh...thats costly and IDK how long it's gonna be before a sale.

Oh yeah has Communist Japan improved at all?

[safe wing]

Also Imperial Germany is really fun too

[safe wing]

It’s now viable

[inland falcon]

nsb isn't integrated yet?

[safe wing]

Tbh it never will be

[inland falcon]

its a very good starting point for DLC as long as you don't mind the tank designer

[safe wing]

It’s the best dlc

Why would paradox make it free

[vocal bolt]

whhat to do with america

[twin nebula]

Yeah I used to enjoy the Monarchist Germany Path also so thats good to know.

[twin nebula]

Wdym?

[inland falcon]

never underestimate how hard they can milk the game

[vocal bolt]

should I jsut disband everything thats not in mainland

[twin nebula]

I already have No Step Back.

[vocal bolt]

seems like a hassle to have troops in a bazillion little islands

[inland falcon]

oh, then yeah get the germany one

[safe wing]

Creative assembly and games workshop with Total war Warhammer do it too and arguably worse

[inland falcon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i dont play those games so idk

[safe wing]

Total war medivial 2 and Rome 1 are better

[inland falcon]

i think NSB has a good shot at being integrated. there's still more that could be done for russia (and maybe even some of the SSRs), the supply mechanics are basically essential anyway and if ship designers can be integrated, so can tank designers

[safe wing]

Fair counter argument

[inland falcon]

besides, people will still drool all over a russia update, even if its been put out before

[safe wing]

Anyways I can’t wait to continue my modded Medivial 2 Stainless steel campaign

[vocal bolt]

I wish

[safe wing]

I’m about to reconquer Anatolia and then turn around and retake Constantinople from the Latin empire

[vocal bolt]

Id get dlcs if the economy here wasnt so shit

[twin nebula]

I really hope we get Russia's Democracy Path I'm going to be so real.

[vocal bolt]

I dont really see the need for the latests ones but no step back seems like the bare minimum

[inland falcon]

the fascists yearn for kerensky

[twin nebula]

The thing is I want the Japan Alt Hist Paths also but I like suck at making a good Army, I suck at microing factories, I suck at maintaining an Air/Naval Force despite wanting to and yeah....

[patent thistle]

great ottoman-russian relations, what a cursed timeline-

[twin nebula]

I meant have Russia's Democ Path finished*

[inland falcon]

btw there is a good mod for democratic russia

[twin nebula]

^ For now I wanna work on this.

[inland falcon]

i dont think japan is a very good starter nation tbf

hoi4 mods the second a new dlc comes out

[safe wing]

Wasn’t there a white Russia reworked mod that hasn’t been updated in a while

[sudden thistle]

those add like focus trees/mechanics

the rest are just like tank models and songs

[safe wing]

It split the fascist path added 2 democratic ones, 2 theocratic ones as well

[twin nebula]

I'm rusty, not brand new.

[safe wing]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2729153216

[inland falcon]

idk, i was thinking of this one
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3453965141

yknow it'd be nice if...

[safe wing]

I was thinking of this one

[safe wing]

Seen that one though

[inland falcon]

they make some pretty solid mods icl

[safe wing]

Always wanted to make a France reworked mod

[inland falcon]

sloptoman empire

[patent thistle]

hey i core all of that shit

[safe wing]

Persian empire borders

[patent thistle]

not just yet

didnt get to steal central asia yet

[safe wing]

Why is Afghanistan bigger

Oh

[azure walrus]

italy game #3(ironman this time)

[vocal bolt]

what is the new legistlation

how do I get that done

[cedar coral]

tuff?

[patent thistle]

HELL YEAH I STOLE TURKISTAN

[safe wing]

Very

[icy lion]

Guys does intel like civil and military intel actually give a major advantage or something

[limber jackal]

i might be napoleon

[twin nebula]

@safe wing Still a bit unsure on how to get back into this game anyway.

[patent thistle]

really, out of ALL people who would defy me its cyprus?

[quiet vessel]

in a focus tree for political bit do y'all prefer like a clear 4 focuses which decides your future ideology at the start (like 4 mutually exclusive focuses that clearly state which ideology you will be) or is it better to have so focuses leading up to which ideology route you take

[vocal bolt]

communist istanbul fr

[paper echo]

greater romanian empire

and peak template

originally i had 7 line artillery

[sly venture]

I can get one dlc do I get la resistance or by blood alone

[patent thistle]

by blood alone

totally not abusing the fact libya revolted from communist italy

[paper echo]

by blood alone

plane designs are amazing

[sly venture]

the only dlc that i are left that i want are by blood alone la resistance and maybe arms against tyranny

Arms against tyranny expensive asf so depends on my financial situation

[vocal bolt]

I only have the now free ones

[twin nebula]

I STILL DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO

[violet veldt]

Dont lie

Dont lie

[paper echo]

you dont like designs?

[violet veldt]

Idk i like the concept of a plane design and i like having the option to design planes but like the vanilla plane design kinda sucks imo

[violet veldt]

I do its just they arent good in vanilla

Imo

[paper echo]

i love them because you can make op planes

and the ai makes bad designs

[violet veldt]

Real

[sly venture]

my fav dlc probably no step back and it’s hard carried by the tank designer

[violet veldt]

I love designers

But not in vanilla

Imo i feel like designing should be like optional

[vocal bolt]

I want no step back bc poland tree

[paper echo]

i hate designs on modern day mods

[violet veldt]

Just use mods

[south hemlock]

Trueee

[paper echo]

you cant believe how happy i am when i see no designs on these mods

[violet veldt]

Idk tfr as a mod sucks but like its still playable

[sly venture]

ngl bro now that I actually understand how navy works it’s so easy to beat them

[violet veldt]

I wish tno had a plane designer

I wish that designing was optional thooo

[sly venture]

when you invade the uk from the English Channel they leave the whole North Sea open lmao

[violet veldt]

Like you could just have fighter Is and fighter IIs and then just have the plane designer on the side

[sly venture]

so you can take half of the uk just like that

[vocal bolt]

pluh

why is this game so monetized

paying for 3d models is insane

[violet veldt]

Its paradox

I love capitalism❤️

Lets pay 30$ for a dlc

[strong umbra]

some ppl like it

[strong umbra]

im fine with them taking my money

if I they make a great game

which they do

[violet veldt]

Idk its like a decent base

[strong umbra]

better than communism

works in theory

but econy

[violet veldt]

Weve never had communism

[strong umbra]

is butcheeks

[mystic nest]

Welcome to payradox

[violet veldt]

Communism is free healthcare btw❤️

Communism is when the government does stuff😡😡😡

[strong umbra]

hospitals without running water btw

[vocal bolt]

I mean I am down to pay for good dlc

[strong umbra]

broski

[violet veldt]

Shh

[mystic nest]

That's just America most democracies have free of heavily subsidised healthcare

[strong umbra]

without capitalism hoi4 wouldn't exist

[vocal bolt]

but some of these things are like bare minimum

[violet veldt]

No bronouns

[vocal bolt]

3d models for units is a bare minimum

[strong umbra]

ur so uneducated

[strong umbra]

u get them

[vocal bolt]

why even make us pay

[strong umbra]

u can pay for extra

[vocal bolt]

all tanks are sherman

[mystic nest]

Because they like money

[violet veldt]

Without capitalism shovels wouldnt exist by that logic

[strong umbra]

no?

[violet veldt]

Well who made hoi4?

[strong umbra]

listen I dont feel like explaining this in depth ok

[mystic nest]

Js take this to DMS

[strong umbra]

paradox a PRIVATE company

[violet veldt]

Fair

[strong umbra]

just watch a video explaining this ok

[violet veldt]

I know how capitalism works

[strong umbra]

i meant a video abt how communism works and its flaws

[violet veldt]

Weve never had communism

[strong umbra]

who is we?

[violet veldt]

Well yeah i mean you can count like

Makhnosvia

[strong umbra]

listen I'm gonna stop this now

its like talking into a brick wall

[violet veldt]

Idk its the closest thing i can think of

[patent thistle]

this be totally stable

[vocal bolt]

I have a question

can you do ANYTHING as south africa

the only options you get are fighting france or fighting brits

[sly venture]

Will this work

[steel zephyr]

first time playing a chinese state

[icy lion]

Guys does intel like civil and military intel actually give a major advantage or something

[violet veldt]

Usually whenever someone talks about communism they dont know what it is tho

[strong umbra]

broski

do u want to see my passport

[violet veldt]

They go off of the soviet union (which was a party dictatorship and not a dop) and china (do i really need to say why china isnt communist?)

[strong umbra]

to prove i know communism

[violet veldt]

Can you not call me that?

[strong umbra]

China was communist

like actual commoe

before 80

[violet veldt]

What makes a nation communist?

[strong umbra]

dprk is hereditary which isnt rly commie but its still commie

[strong umbra]

market economy

[violet veldt]

Aesthetically

[strong umbra]

I mean state planned

eco

[violet veldt]

Just dms

[strong umbra]

and absolute power

#off-topic

[vocal bolt]

is there a way to get nations off their faction

so I can invade

[quiet vessel]

this whole thing feels so off

[vocal bolt]

is there a way to make ai leave a faction to join mine

[mystic nest]

Allat land with three armies is crazy

[violet veldt]

is millenium dawn good?

[azure walrus]

wait

are puppets factored into how likely yugoslavia is to accept ultimatum

(as italy)

[mystic nest]

Some like it some dont

Try it yourself to see

[quasi field]

bro playing in civilian difficulty

[patent thistle]

uhm. no.

[quasi field]

guys is germany still the best country/nation in hoi4

[azure palm]

Depends, easiest to play or most fun to play?

[quasi field]

most fun

[azure palm]

then no

Britain, the Soviets, austria, japan, china and sweden are more fun to play than germany

imo

[steel zephyr]

hopefully militia buffs let me win 🤤

[quasi field]

soviets if not played correctly are absolutely crushed by axis

[mystic nest]

No

[mystic nest]

It's hard to not play the Soviets correctly

[azure palm]

yes, but they are fun

[mystic nest]

Watch a thirty minute tutorial and you won't lose

[quasi field]

ig

[mystic nest]

They have so much mp you can throw out dozens of armies

[azure palm]

hell, you dont need a tutorial. You shouldnt be able to mess this up

[mystic nest]

Nah I can see how people get screwed by the purge mechanic

If they didn't know to prioritise it

[quasi field]

i only pick germany because of austrian painter i think everyone can relate to that lol

[azure palm]

?

[quasi field]

mustache man bro

[azure palm]

I dont think anyone can relate to that

[mystic nest]

Hitler

[quasi field]

nahhhh

[mystic nest]

Who picks Germany for the portrait 😭

[quasi field]

is that even allowed

[azure palm]

yes, I know. I am austrian.

[quasi field]

not for potrait but for finishing the job

[mystic nest]

You're in a WW2 game discoed

It would be a bit stupid if Hitler was censored

[azure palm]

he isnt

[mystic nest]

I know mate

He asked if that's allowed

[azure palm]

weird question

[quasi field]

ye im knew here

[quasi field]

wdym weird type it anywhere it gets censored

[uncut pollen]

Whats going on here

[azure palm]

please ask flowi or someone about the rules

not me

[mystic nest]

???

[quasi field]

i didnt ask about the rules tf

[azure palm]

or anything related to the rules

[uncut pollen]

@quasi field @kind walrus @azure palm explain

[quasi field]

btw why is italy so damn bad oh my days

[azure palm]

Something about hitler being censored

[mystic nest]

Italy is a minor country

Most of the time

[azure palm]

Its 23:01 im tired. I cant remember.

[mystic nest]

Don't expect it to go toe to toe with the USSR America or Germany

[mystic nest]

?? Hitler isn't censored

[azure palm]

exactly

[mighty bone]

yall think im a good resistance controller?

[azure palm]

italy, if played right, can crush the USSR and maybe Germany

[quasi field]

it cant go toe to toe with greece in the weakest form but it can switch sides thats the best thing

[azure palm]

WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING

[mystic nest]

The best

[mystic nest]

Lithuania if played right can crush the USSR

Doesn't mean they're anywhere near the level of the ussr

[quasi field]

nah hell nah

[mighty bone]

im pacifying india

[uncut pollen]

?

[azure palm]

yes, but thats some master kind of playing lithuania

[azure palm]

yes. I dont understand it either

[quasi field]

the time lithuania can crush ussr is when the one controlling lithuania is pro while the one on ussr is just bad

[mystic nest]

The AI is always bad

[azure palm]

or just the AI

[mystic nest]

That's not a factor

Finland can cap the USSR by like 41

[azure palm]

but Italy genuinly can defeat the USSR if played by someone who isnt specificly bad at the game, but also not really good.

[quasi field]

maybe

[mystic nest]

Yes but it's not a major country in terms of general strength

[mighty bone]

talking about singleplayer?

[mystic nest]

Italy gets outscaled easily by minors like brazil

[quasi field]

yes

[azure palm]

Playing Italy is also really good for learning hoi4 imo

[mystic nest]

Obviously lol Italy is not capping the USSR in mp

[azure palm]

yes

[uncut pollen]

Nothing wrong with that in my opinion

[mystic nest]

Not without Germany

[mighty bone]

Brazil focus tree is cracked they core portugal and their colonies and core south america, brazil vs italy is not a fair fight

[mystic nest]

They can core everything

[mystic nest]

600 mils by 44

[kind walrus]

Was what he wrote

[mystic nest]

It's beautiful gameplay

[mystic nest]

Factories

Not mils

[quasi field]

i think that adolf could’ve won ww2 if it weren’t for italy being useless

[uncut pollen]

You are now banned for saying that

[mystic nest]

We got another one here man..

[uncut pollen]

[quasi field]

like seriously

[uncut pollen]

!bean @kind walrus

[mystic nest]

Hoi4 players and thinking Germany could win

😭

[quasi field]

only 14 km

[mystic nest]

What would capturing Moscow do? Napoleon captured moscow

[quasi field]

napoleon found moscow burned to the ground

[mighty bone]

moscow isnt lowering soviet surrender limit to 0%

[mystic nest]

And what's to say the Soviets wouldn't do that

[quasi field]

hmmm

[mystic nest]

Considering they literally had a scorched earth policy

[quasi field]

still it was close

[mystic nest]

It wasnt

Capturing Moscow would not capitulate the ussr

[quasi field]

how so my broski

[mystic nest]

They would still get railed by dday

[mystic nest]

Look man there's dozens of books written

[quasi field]

hmm but also germany had japan which was very good until it decided it was a good time to declare war on the US

[slim idol]

It's almost impossible, but if the USA stayed completely neutral and didn't supply either side it's possible

[mystic nest]

By qualified historians on this idea

Just read one

They can explain it better than I ever coildd

[mystic nest]

Japan literally needed to declare on the US

[slim idol]

Not likely at all btw

[vivid juniper]

Is there a trigger if you don’t immediately fight China that will always make you fight them eventually because I keep getting it January 1, 1945

[quasi field]

nah

[mystic nest]

The USA 'the arsenal of democracy' not supplying anyone?

[mighty bone]

?

[slim idol]

That's why I said not likely at all

[mystic nest]

Fair

[azure walrus]

italy is NOT the only factor that would have to be different

[vivid juniper]

I keep getting the Marco Polo bridge incident event January 1, 1945, even though I subdued the army

[quasi field]

i know japan was stupid too

[mystic nest]

Everything needs to be different

[azure palm]

The Kwantung Army always forces you to attack China at some point but you can subdue them to not force you to attack if thats the question

[azure walrus]

exactly

[vivid juniper]

I avoided it in 1937 but January 1, 1945 it fires

[mystic nest]

Reminds me of that one twitter post that said 'dont siege Leningrad just take it'

[quasi field]

also dont forget it was this 🇩🇪🇯🇵🇮🇹vs🌎

[mighty bone]

that one drake meme about computer something

[vivid juniper]

I went Showa Restoration

[mystic nest]

That's why they were never going to win even if they captured moscow

[mighty bone]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[mystic nest]

There's straight up hundreds of books and the sis papers written on this topic

[azure walrus]

not really, more like China got its shit together

[twin nebula]

Okay so can someone explain to me if there are any benefits to picking up NCNS before Gotterdamerung or do I have to pick both up at some point if I wanna play their alt history paths?

[mystic nest]

Read a few of them man 😭

[azure walrus]

(see the Xi'an incident)

[quasi field]

of course when the world is against brother

[mystic nest]

Don't buy ncns before gets

Gtd

Please

[mystic nest]

Yes mate but that was the situation

They were never going to win

[twin nebula]

I was thinking of buying both but please explain?

[quasi field]

atleast they finished something else😶‍🌫️

[azure palm]

yes, through that path you can subdue them

[mighty bone]

gtd?

do u mean goe?

[azure walrus]

gotterdammerung

i think

[mystic nest]

Ncns doesn't give nearly as much value as like no step back of gtd

Or

[vivid juniper]

Yeah, I was able to rein them in but nearly 8 years later it still wants me to fight them

[quasi field]

also imo italy wouldn’t be that bad if it actually had resources

[mighty bone]

ncns gives u those broken faction thingies

democratic USA can get 7.5% extra factory output for free which is pretty major till war

[mystic nest]

They don't even need that

[mighty bone]

u telling me u wouldnt take 7.5% free output

[mystic nest]

The USA is boring as hell to play because they roll over everything

[mystic nest]

Not for thirty dollars

[mighty bone]

thats a fair point

Its very unfortunate that as far right hindu india u can never get rid of muslim marginalized community debuff but it makes sense. Doubt far right hind nationalists would give them autonomy

[inland falcon]

i mean yeah, it makes total sense lol

[azure palm]

that is probably a bug

by subduing them they disappear

permanently

[vivid juniper]

I don’t know if the Chinese AI triggered it I didn’t get a warning that they were justifying or had a war goal

[mighty bone]

you have to take nationalist china

[vivid juniper]

I know they could do it through prevent another crisis, but that’s their ahistorical tree I was playing historical

[azure palm]

I just noticed the way to do 'Why die for your country?' is just big tank make france go boom

[fair horizon]

Chat did they do a release date for the new dlc?

[split bane]

No we just no it'll be out some time in Q2

[mighty bone]

what dlc

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

Australia will never be good

[bitter nexus]

got a african death war💔

just death and no advances for both sides💔

[split bane]

The Australia/Siam/Indonesia one

[mystic nest]

Thunder at the gates

[mighty bone]

wow

should have been in ncns

but we gotta make more money

[glad sun]

huh thought it gets bypassed

[mighty bone]

holy shit is that a tno reference

[bitter nexus]

just a death war no reference🥀

this is hell

my game is going to shit

sorta

im trying to get viva la france and i joined axis but they are just pulling out of africa and leaving me mostly, but I dont have enough troops to fully reinforce africa due to a war with the netherlands (had to defend germany) and an invasion of sicily im trying to defend quickly

[queen basalt]

How do I get HOI4 I have always wanted to get it

[mighty bone]

idk bro

[surreal mist]

you press purchase on steam

[bitter nexus]

but the bitter sweet thing about germany hopefully soon capping the soviets is they will be done and they can help in africa and west/sically, but british raj is prolly gonna move through middle of USSR

give your money to paradox

give in

[royal marten]

I'm devastated

I've became washed at hoi4

[bitter nexus]

ive been washed

i have like 250 hours and i suck ASS

[royal marten]

Yeah but I have 3k hours

and used to be cracked

[bitter nexus]

holy shit go see sunlight

dear god its happened

[mighty bone]

racist to the unemployed 🥀

[bitter nexus]

germany is starting to lose battles a bit in the USSR war

this is NOT good

[carmine sinew]

i dont think it matters that we are stalling in the southern front

just a hunch tho

[bitter nexus]

death war

[bitter nexus]

they are so dug in

[carmine sinew]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nah-imma-do-my-own-thing-miles-morales

[fading elk]

be Lithuania
get the king
annex Baltics, puppet Poland
annex Poland, have 85 divs and factories for when the Soviets ask
Soviets go to war, somehow lose 1mil men in 3 months

This is about 3 years after the war started this is how it is

[mighty bone]

why is vichy france green

[fading elk]

I don’t have la resistance

[uncut pollen]

I usualy loose against the Ethiopians

[bitter nexus]

actually?!

[uncut pollen]

Yes

[opal nymph]

Local moderator doesn't use air support

[bitter nexus]

thats insane

[fading elk]

On vanilla France actually has a fasict path where they can Allie with Germany before ww2 starts

[uncut pollen]

After i bought the bba dlc

[opal nymph]

Pinning attacks make Ethiopia not painful

You have no supply? Well make sure they dont have org or entrenchment

[dusky burrow]

yeah 85 good infantry divisions with air support will crush the soviets

[bitter nexus]

im doing that focus with all dlcs, cause im trying to get viva la france

[opal nymph]

Attacking is the answer to everything

when fighting down there

[bitter nexus]

i coulda not joined any wars but hey whatever

[clear dagger]

literally just cav is enough to crush them as well

[opal nymph]

Wdym before WW2, there is a pro German path

[bitter nexus]

i have been doing that for 2 damn years and its gotten me very little land

[fading elk]

That’s where I had a certain issue, in terms of planes we had no planes, but I had lots of aa

And simply had lots of defense traits on my generals

[bitter nexus]

they reinforced to hard and when the soviet war happed it went to shit as germany and a bit of italy left

now im fighting lots of fronts

[fading elk]

Vichy France has the generic focus tree without la resistance but free France does have a facist path

[bitter nexus]

including netherlands, africa, and sically

[fading elk]

Kinda

[opal nymph]

Funny

But there is still a pro German path for France in LaR

[bitter nexus]

the soviets not capping is making it worse

[fading elk]

Don’t you need to cap right

[opal nymph]

No

That is the Vichy tree

You got a Latin Entente and pro Axis path

[dusky burrow]

true

[clear dagger]

2 million horsies go vroom

https://tenor.com/view/sabaton-history-wawa-cat-winged-hussars-gif-1548064404993932937

[fading elk]

The war vs the ussr cost me 2.5mil poles

But I’ve killed 5mil

Not the best but hey

[mighty bone]

then the panzer divison showed up

[clear dagger]

then the winged hussars go around

[fading elk]

I did have to do 2 costly offensives in the south to take all of Ukraine

But hey Iran quite literally is soloing them

I’m sitting on 80% WP currently

I’ve taken Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad

Still only 90% capped

[mighty bone]

its crazy to think the poles saved austrians from annihilation yet then they instantly kill the poles after

[fading elk]

I’m going to need to go past the Urals aren’t I

[dusky burrow]

do you have collab governments

[fading elk]

Nope

No la resistance

[torpid lion]

anyone know when hoi4 will go on sale?

[fading elk]

It and BBL are like the last proper DLCs I need (NCNS not included)

[opal nymph]

Give it a month or so

[dusky burrow]

ah i see

[fading elk]

Though ima be honest I don’t usually play majors too much in vanilla but Damn performance really does tank past 1942

Maybe it’s just me

It’s not slow slow

[mighty bone]

its not you

this game is terribly optomized

If u want to save ur frames u have to kill everyone instantly

[fading elk]

But you can definitely feel it

[fading elk]

I usually play smaller nations so guess that’s why I don’t see it too much

Then the uk steps in with a ✋ and I wanna cry

Name a more iconic duo

(Gotta pray for the sub 25% wt)

Actually something I’m yet to do is “normal” communist Germany

I tried the Spartacus league path

But how is the regular communist path where you get the option to make spheres of influence in Eastern Europe

[mighty bone]

india smart

i dont think smirnov got it

[quick rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/islamic-communism-communism-stalin-ussr-islamic-gif-505244463485281670

[lusty river]

I lost Magdagrad 😢

the states should be entirely renamed and not only the city imo

[fleet pulsar]

On a scale of 1-10, how cooked am I?

[fair horizon]

Romania the long way

[opal nymph]

So, where are your troops

You don't even have any being trained

[fleet pulsar]

I have 10 military factories

[opal nymph]

Is this the 1939 start date or something

[fleet pulsar]

1936

[opal nymph]

So

Why did you not build any military factories

France has more than enough civs to where you can basically build mils day 1

[fleet pulsar]

I spent most of my time trying to fix my government and was building civs to get my economy going

[opal nymph]

You are France, you have a decent eco

You need guns, which requires mils

I build like max civs at Callais, and then I spam mils

[fleet pulsar]

I have no idea how to play this game to be honest, I manage to have a crappy economy as America

[opal nymph]

The video tutorials are nice

They tell you all the basics

The rest is trial and error

Also the Czechs are the ones causing that notification

You can throw them under the bus and you avoid war for another year

[fleet pulsar]

I don't think a year is saving this 💀

[mighty bone]

no one does, we all js try and improve every playthrough

[fair horizon]

How do you have such negative guns as britian?

[fleet pulsar]

I'm France

I have 12 mils split on a bunch of production lines

[fair horizon]

Oh you have the debuff

[silk fern]

stop splitting them you need bullets

[errant remnant]

Try to guess what country i am

[fleet pulsar]

I need artillery, AA, support equipment, planes, and tanks as well.

[fleet pulsar]

France due to the frontline in America.

[errant remnant]

Nope

France landed liek 3 troops there i just build off it

[viscid mason]

Russian Empire or PLC? Actually no Tibet

[dusky burrow]

Good luck saving the world

[trim lotus]

It is surprisingly fun to play Germany, send volunteers to Spain, and encircle and destroy Soviet volunteer divisions.

[restive sable]

first time doing this path

[fair horizon]

Chat did they fix the naval supremacy bug?

[dusky burrow]

you didn't demand slovakia in time? RIP

[steel zephyr]

second PRC attempt

ignore the horrid frontlines

[slim idol]

Bro just use field Marshal Frontlines😭

[steel zephyr]

formed different times

i puppeted a lot of other chinese warlords and got their armies to support the defence

[slim idol]

Then combine the Frontlines now

[viscid mason]

Doesn't look too bad if Szymon could knock out Germany in time.

As Poland outnumbers Germany in divisions.

[viscid mason]

This. Shift click and you will have one clean front line.

[slim idol]

I know how to do it I was telling him to do it

Because it looks horrendous

[viscid mason]

Fair enough I just wanted to tell him ow to do the FM front line

[slim idol]

Even the normal one looks better

[restive sable]

sadly not

[trim lotus]

The one where the game just kinda forgets there's a fleet patrolling there and gets rid of your naval supremacy? Unsure.

[restive sable]

but we're winning so it's fine

[slim idol]

"oh mein Gott! Time to go to ze bunker!" I can hear it from outside of the game😔

I wonder what he's gonna do in that bunker

[inland falcon]

tf going on in qingdao

[steel zephyr]

I'm as lost as you are

[dusky burrow]

east india company bought it 😭

[inland falcon]

😭 the east india company? who tf sold them that shit

[steel zephyr]

Nanjing secured

[dusky burrow]

congrats

[viscid mason]

Nationalist China did.

[inland falcon]

chiang kai shek needed to pay for his weekly opium supply

[dusky burrow]

what do your division templates look like btw

[inland falcon]

im not the one playing

[viscid mason]

oops

[steel zephyr]

Shanhai 🤤

[steel zephyr]

just this and another one without aa

all my puppet borders with them tying a few of their forces

their south collapsed its never maoover

[carmine sinew]

im getting cooked up by germany

[steel zephyr]

original borders fofr context

their armyt in the southt is in ruins, about to encircle hteir army in the north

[modern torrent]

they call me otto von bismarck

[steel zephyr]

W

[modern torrent]

guys do you think i should invade the us

i have a direct land border with them

through my puppet

[carmine sinew]

its so over

[modern torrent]

rate the empire

all my allies are puppets

[modern torrent]

why does the uk have ireland 😭

[carmine sinew]

fascism path

takes ireland

i think

[modern torrent]

probably

guys#

should i invade the us

i have a direct border with them

and

my army is max experience

after like

10 years of nonstop war

[finite plume]

My mind can't tolerate unequal province sizes so I gave Nevada the relative same province sizes as California

1 person per province 🙏

[modern torrent]

hungary left my faction

theyre so screwed

[viscid mason]

Why are militas used than normal infantry? Just curious as dont normal infantry have better org or attack (i cant remember) and support companies will take away the training time advantage anyways.

[steel zephyr]

with certain national bonuses, militia is op

expecially as communist china

[mighty bone]

im playing as India in the japanese faction. I can always save the world

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-credit-social-уважение-плюс-уважение-gif-1626328442317885176

[low orbit]

What??? ( I'm playing with historical focus, i'm france)

[modern torrent]

ai screws up sometimes

[low orbit]

Is it my fault? Remove a French debuff using national focus

[modern torrent]

no

ai screws up sometimes

thats the only explanation

[low orbit]

Is there a way to fix it? It's already 3 games where the AI does non-historical things

The United Kingdom did not even invite me to the allies

[modern torrent]

enable historical focuses

[low orbit]

They are activated

[modern torrent]

damn

idk really

weird

[low orbit]

I think my game was corrupted?

[modern torrent]

did you like

crack the game

or did you buy it

from steam

[low orbit]

I have it on steam

[bright forum]

Afghanistan is such a fun and definitely not slog. I'm trying to go down the democratic path without a civil war. You just can't.

[heavy rover]

this is the worst question ever 🥀🥀🥀

[modern torrent]

i really dk whats going on

[low orbit]

Since yesterday this problem has been happening to me, Germany either attacks the Baltic or does non-historical things

[modern torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/danganronpa-kyoko-kirigiri-after-school-lesson-gif-6483675630744807798

[modern torrent]

i havent ever seen this before

really

weird

[low orbit]

I don't understand what may be affecting my game

[steel zephyr]

uh oh

[austere pier]

how do i do this

[bright forum]

I don't think you can, since you went down the caliphate path.

[modern torrent]

oh

ok

this made the german soviet war alot easier

[austere pier]

i havent gotten the new leader for that yet tho

either way this is absurdly unintuitive

[bright forum]

The Iraq tree is garbage.

Like the Afghanistan tree.

50% democratic support to avoid a civil war is insane because of the fact that you constantly have non-aligned support going up because of a national spirit, and one of two ways to increase democratic support also gives communism support...meaning that after the democratic support reaches 25% power...it goes down and communist support goes up.

[slim nexus]

Civil war is bad but at least it allows for the troops to get xp

[azure walrus]

is this ncns

[steel zephyr]

ncns?

[azure walrus]

no compromise no surrender dlc

do you have it and are you playing with it

[modern torrent]

should i invade the soviets

[steel zephyr]

almost there

[steel zephyr]

i got all dlc so yes

[azure walrus]

nice

[steel zephyr]

tuff

[sudden thistle]

bro

USSR, germany, france, raj, Uk

and soon balkans

[steel zephyr]

just gotta annex my chinese puppets

[slim nexus]

sae, plus the expansion pass

[smoky fiber]

In my swiss game the Japanese controled Ireland

[dusky burrow]

japan went strike north i see

[sharp sierra]

i hate how theres no cheese in the japanese civil war

[steel zephyr]

the thing is Japan declared on SSSR and SSSR was losing the soviet civil war, then the poles invaded and the SSSR won

then the poles invaded the SSSR

[jade ore]

day night cycle in the big '26

[torpid lion]

Should I buy hoi, is it worth it?

[austere pier]

is all the post-trial of allegiance content bad or is that just me

[jade ore]

it is imo

if you get bored of base game you can always get mods

but you have a few hundred hours of content alone then you can move onto challenges or just fun stuff

[uncut pollen]

yes

[plucky slate]

Yes but I do recommend modding

[bright forum]

Pretty much. Gotterdammerung was alright, but everything else has been garbage.

[quasi shoal]

really depends

there's a lot of people that this game is just not for

[glad sun]

I wish you could automate trade like in tno or other pdx games

so annyoinh

[wooden agate]

Sup

[bright forum]

No. The game is garbage, the developers pump out garbage DLC that breaks everything before "fixing" it in the next DLC.

[glad sun]

Yeh no one asked for coal beside black ice players who have their own mod the community laughs at for being to realsitc and then pdx adds coal

[violet grail]

Hearts of iron 4

[quasi shoal]

coal was a good idea

and a bad execution

[quasi shoal]

isn't not having auto trade part of the micro

you gotta keep track of your resources

[bright forum]

Which mod is black ice? I refuse to touch mods after being called the r-slur by Kaiserreich devs.

[quasi shoal]

not playing any mods just because of one person is crazy

but black ice basically adds a ton of complexity to the game

[glad sun]

Yeh the issue is trade influence goes up and down so it means you end up losing it but it foes up like next month

[quasi shoal]

like you gotta build each gun and shi

[quasi shoal]

that's why it's part of the micro

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-deep-fried-mad-raging-gif-14229167

[glad sun]

Like you have to build ammo and there are tank facotry plane factorys dedictated reseaerch slots no alt hist

[bright forum]

Don't forget the Millennium Dawn devs being a bunch of tools too.

[quasi shoal]

that's 2 mods

and one of them is ass

[bright forum]

Millennium Dawn is garbage.

Absolutely awful.

[glad sun]

Its anti fun if you are in the middle east or africa since no steel

[quasi shoal]

you js gotta click like 2 buttons I don't think it's that huge of a deal

[bright forum]

"Yeah bro who needs a Zionist tree or a change to the garbage alignment system when COMOROS?!"

[glad sun]

ik the point is i think auto trade should be added doesnt affect anything gamplay wise beside smoothing

[bright forum]

Yeah well...I can't be arsed to try anything else.

[quasi shoal]

rt56 is pretty fun

it's kinda OP for you

[bright forum]

Honestly, adding an option to enable automatic trading would be pretty good.

[quasi shoal]

but the fun kind of OP

[bright forum]

I played an Afghanistan game where I tried to get the best of the democratic and communist trees.

It went awfully.

I started the democratic civil war, won it.

Then started the communist civil war.

And my name went back to "Kingdom of Afghanistan" 💀

I lost the civil war.

BTW.

[mighty bone]

as india who has good tanks and is part of the GEACPS, what is the first offensive move that i should make according to you guys? Invade iran with japanese support?

[bright forum]

Afghanistan is one of the most garbage things ever.

[quasi shoal]

do you have mountaineers and stuff

if so, then i'd go for iran yeah

[violet grail]

hearts of iron 4

[sharp sierra]

turn on japan

[quasi shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-reacts-flightreacts-flightreact-flight-wtf-gif-11190336173610657371

[sharp sierra]

i mean u could either fight the mega axis faction while youre weaker than you would be if you had all of japans stuff

[quasi shoal]

while the axis gets stronger

[sharp sierra]

its gonna be basically the same enemy

[quasi shoal]

look on the left

[sharp sierra]

it doesnt change my mind

[quasi shoal]

they're distracted by the us

so most of their divisions are gonna be there

[cinder adder]

Are my messages showing up as spam

[quasi shoal]

strike while they're preoccupied

[quasi shoal]

yes lol

why

[cinder adder]

bro idk my account got hacked a while back

how do i fix this

[sharp sierra]

haha

[quasi shoal]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jetstream-sam-metal-gear-rising-15

replace blocked with likely spam

[cinder adder]

should i make a dm to discord support

[quasi shoal]

yeah prolly

[twilit vine]

yo how do i get a mod working once i subscribe in the workshop

i bought the game an hour ago

[quasi shoal]

playsets

under here

[twilit vine]

wheres that

[quasi shoal]

paradox launcher

[tulip thorn]

The paradox launcher

The thing that opens everytime you boot up the game

[quasi shoal]

no

you can disable it booting up every time

[quasi shoal]

also 🐌

[tulip thorn]

Yes I know

I am very much aware of the ability to disable it

[mighty bone]

bro what

[twilit vine]

i booted it up and im on the main menu

[quasi shoal]

[mighty bone]

no... i built tanks instead

[quasi shoal]

invading west is gonna be a bit hard

not too difficult

esp since it's AI

but yk

[tulip thorn]

Reenable the launcher

[mighty bone]

late game ai though

[tulip thorn]

Right click on hoi4 on steam

click properties

[quasi shoal]

still tho

[twilit vine]

yes?

[atomic grove]

click always use this option

[quasi shoal]

now click play

[mighty bone]

there used to be an option there called nakam mp

[twilit vine]

ok i did it

nothing is happening

[quasi shoal]

give it a bit

[twilit vine]

aight

[quasi shoal]

a bit is like 2 minutes btw

at most

[twilit vine]

k

man really takes a while

[quasi shoal]

check your taskbar

it shouldn't take this long

[twilit vine]

should i retry?

[quasi shoal]

sure

[twilit vine]

whenever i click on play and it says launching it reverts back to play

[quasi shoal]

send an SS of your taskbar

[quasi shoal]

🤷

man idk

[mighty bone]

can someone explain faction leader only debuff

[quasi shoal]

in your faction's rules

[atomic grove]

theres a rule in ur faction

[quasi shoal]

one of them is "faction leader only" (idr which one)

and it nerfs pp gain

[atomic grove]

u need to change the rule for who can be leader

[mighty bone]

ah

thats so dumb

[twilit vine]

the launcher doesnt work, if i skip the launcher it opens

[quasi shoal]

🤷

[quasi shoal]

not really

[twilit vine]

brooooo i just wanna play my lotr mod

[mighty bone]

how do i create a faction theater?

does it give me buffs?

[quasi shoal]

it gives everyone assigned to it buffs

[smoky fiber]

Am I a disgrace I havent played hoi4 in 2 days

[quasi shoal]

in the army section of the faction thing

[mighty bone]

1 is free

but i dont know how to create one

[quasi shoal]

usually you

press the create button

[quasi shoal]

keep it going

[mighty bone]

there isnt a create button

[atomic grove]

scroll up

[quasi shoal]

send an SS of the rules rq

[smoky fiber]

But I like it

[quasi shoal]

is it at the top?

I thought it was at the bottom

[atomic grove]

hes japan

[quasi shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-reacts-flightreacts-flightreact-flight-wtf-gif-11190336173610657371

[atomic grove]

wait no

nvm

[quasi shoal]

didn't he say he was india

[atomic grove]

hes india

[quasi shoal]

earlier

[mighty bone]

im india

[atomic grove]

yeah

im pretty sure only leaders can make theaters

[mighty bone]

oh

i cant lie these are some tuff ass borders

its all cores too

[smoky fiber]

So no resistance?

[mighty bone]

yes

[waxen oyster]

So I just took China as Japan in 1938. I have like 90 military factories now lol. Would it be dumb to convert some of them to civilian so I can build more dockyards ?

[quasi shoal]

yeah

why would you need more dockyards

[waxen oyster]

So I can build more screens lol

And ships

[quasi shoal]

just