hoi4-general

[woven gate]

you've got hope

[rare sand]

did you not declare on the benelux one at a time?

[mystic cosmos]

I only make tank templates and just use the base infantry template 💔

I get Poland no problem

[woven gate]

alright i want you to just expand your infantry templates

[mystic cosmos]

But like when two countries fight me at once it’s too hard

[woven gate]

and use Large Unit Tactics

[mystic nest]

brother inf is more important than tanks

[woven gate]

that's the easiest fix

[rare sand]

well at least they're not going through the maginot

[mystic nest]

inf is literally the backbone of youra rmy

[mystic nest]

no

id rathe they be going through the maginot cuz there would be a reason why the ycouldnt get through the front

[woven gate]

i'm so glad that we're the only few people here or else half the server would try and end you

[mystic nest]

🥀 🥀 🥀

[mystic cosmos]

Tanks are really op though

[woven gate]

that time i held out as france and the germans invaded switzerland

[mystic nest]

there is nothing tnaks can do in sp that inf cant

absolutely nothing

[mystic cosmos]

🤫🤫🤫

[woven gate]

i was confused to say the least

[mystic cosmos]

And dude

When I try to go for France the NETHERLANDS tries to attack me

(On historical too)

[woven gate]

it's 3:44 am what am i supposed to tell my parents

[mystic nest]

yes?

cuz theyre literally programmed?

it's historical

theyre programemd to join the allies

[woven gate]

"i stayed up because online people need my help"

[mystic cosmos]

But the thing is

[rare sand]

you mean when you go for the netherlands, france tries to attack you

[mystic cosmos]

They somehow TEAR through me

[mystic nest]

brother if youre getting torn through

by the netherlands

as germany

then i suggest you to go watch a guide

[mystic cosmos]

Nah bro

[mystic nest]

before starting another run

[mystic cosmos]

And Britain

And the USSR

[mystic nest]

bro you havent even made it through france whhy u talking about britain

[mystic cosmos]

All at once

[mystic nest]

yeah?

[mystic cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rock-boulder-never-ending-never-give-up-gif-4138109955848789635

[mystic nest]

thats fine mate

brother

firstly the ussr wont break the moltoov ribbentrop

[left tusk]

ok i got 67 mils and 101 civ factories

things are looking up

[mystic nest]

so if ur fighting them its straight up ur own fault

[woven gate]

slow improvement

[mystic nest]

secondly britain and france ar elike

[woven gate]

you should try to have at least 80 next run

[mystic nest]

france is programemd to capitulate

britain is a free invasion

[woven gate]

but hey maybe you'll pull off a miracle

[mystic nest]

then you cap britain before the us joins and you can wipe out the soviets

and then you can wipe out america

there we go

[mystic nest]

hes on sp if he has the right inf template he should be fine

[mystic cosmos]

I may have forgot to go through the Netherlands and Luxembourg

[rare sand]

britain is easy enough to invade, just take control of the channel by getting your entire airforce on naval and port strike, then moving the entirety of your fleet there

[mystic nest]

what where were you attacking france from

[rare sand]

umm what?

[mystic nest]

no teven

just paratroop and win

[mystic cosmos]

Where our borders connect

[mystic nest]

dont even need channel cotnrol

[rare sand]

the maginot

[mystic nest]

brother

[woven gate]

you need to shock the belgians by coming in from the netherlands

[mystic nest]

why are you attacking into the maginot

???????????????

[mystic cosmos]

Uhhhhh

[rare sand]

lol

[mystic nest]

you know

[mystic cosmos]

🤷‍♂️

[mystic nest]

the line of forts

that was meant to stop germany

from attacking

france

yeah

that line

dont attack through that line

😭

[woven gate]

there's a focus called "around the maginot"

that's a good hint

[mystic cosmos]

Really thoughtful

[rare sand]

i'm guessing they left the netherland front completely undefended as they sent all their troops to die on the maginot

[woven gate]

good luck

[mystic nest]

and why would you even do that man

12 divs would hold the entire netherland front

[mystic cosmos]

Thank you

[woven gate]

you just gotta go around it and france folds

[mystic nest]

yes

frane is programmed to collapse

[mystic cosmos]

All

[mystic nest]

you can even cheese it instnatly with paratroopers

which is funny

[woven gate]

no problem

[mystic nest]

please watch a guide

atualyl

cuz if youre attacking the maginot thers probably

a lot more you could be improving on

like industry and resarch

and focuses

etc

it takes like 40 minutes and itll save you hours of headscratching

[mystic cosmos]

My friend taught me how to do everything else

[mystic nest]

but he didnt tell you that attacking the maginot is a bad idea??

[woven gate]

watching ISP is surprisingly what made me good

[mystic nest]

😭 that guys trolling you

[rare sand]

honestly it'd be a little funny

[mystic cosmos]

He wasn’t there for that

[mystic nest]

ah

fair enough then

[woven gate]

"good" i've still got some stuff to improve on but i'm decent

[mystic nest]

fair

[mystic cosmos]

He taught me how to invade Poland

[mystic nest]

js battleplan poland to death

[mystic cosmos]

I just spearhead straight into Warsaw

[woven gate]

Poland's basically just do anything and they die

[mystic cosmos]

Works every time

[left tusk]

my great grandma with altzheimers could probably capitulate the polish

[woven gate]

my great grandma could capitulate the polish

and she's dead

[left tusk]

😭

[left tusk]

a fly accidentally lands on my keyboard

oops they capitulated the polish

[woven gate]

"fall of warsaw"

[mystic nest]

the poles never stood a chance

[woven gate]

i'm so cooked what do i tell my parents

[mystic nest]

wdym

js wake up earlier

set an alarm mate

[woven gate]

i've stayed up all night

[mystic nest]

is that not common at 18

[left tusk]

spains been great at training my guys

they got funny skull medals

[left tusk]

its 3 am for me

[maiden verge]

Its a lesson, don't do it, serious

[quasi shoal]

they're secretly the youngest person ever!

[quasi shoal]

2 am for me

imma go to sleep soon tho

[left tusk]

@mystic nest @woven gate things are looking up

74 mils

[quasi shoal]

who are you playing

[left tusk]

germany

[quasi shoal]

why so many civs

[left tusk]

i had 71

then i ate the chezchs and austrians

and now i have 104

[quasi shoal]

still seems like a lot

idk tho 🤷

when were you building civs to

[left tusk]

idk

[quasi shoal]

oh well, not like it matters too much

[heavy vigil]

olive play ussr singleplayer but only make dockyards

[fair horizon]

Midwest best

[quasi shoal]

highkey tho...

👀

[heavy vigil]

try to win at hist war date

[quasi shoal]

I would but like germany gets almost all their resources natively, so I can't even starve them or anything

[heavy vigil]

just win

[quasi shoal]

I js gotta pre-prep really good marines 🤷

[heavy vigil]

you have navy

and like baltic mils

so maybe 50+ mils

[quasi shoal]

why doesn't stalin just go on a boat so he can't get captured, and he just never surrenders?

is he stupid?

[heavy vigil]

vs vanilla ai

might be enough

[quasi shoal]

might

i'm ass tho

so i'd prolly lose

[heavy vigil]

win

[quasi shoal]

what if...

[heavy vigil]

dont lose

[quasi shoal]

all 50+ mils on air

all dockyards on sub 3s 🔥

wait

[heavy vigil]

youll die

[quasi shoal]

even better

all dockyards on carriers 🔥

[quasi shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589311099674034176/1473244921225023579/image0.gif

[heavy vigil]

that works

[quasi shoal]

all dockyards on carriers and all mills on carrier planes

[mystic gale]

crazy

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[ivory hull]

is this reichspakt+?

[mystic gale]

yes

[lyric anchor]

should you add line artillery to mountaneer

im currently running a 9/0 mountaneer and wondering if i should add stuff

[tulip thorn]

no

dont do that

Its actually really bad

[tiny iris]

The enemy breaks and then I switch targets and they stop breaking and flank my troops.
It's so annoying.

[lyric anchor]

what shd i use then

[lyric anchor]

dont mountains have a 50 width limit

all the stuff i read aimed for 25

is there any benefit for 32

[ivory hull]

isnt 36w best for attacking?

[tulip thorn]

Ehhh for mountains its slightly worse

[ivory hull]

yea but i feel like i use mountaineers more on non-mountain tiles

[tulip thorn]

True

[ivory hull]

because there are barely any mountains in hoi

[tulip thorn]

The new rangers are really good aswell

[ivory hull]

and most can be broken with cas

[heavy vigil]

where did u read it

[ivory hull]

i havent tried them yet

[heavy vigil]

BAD for mountains, marshes

[lyric anchor]

pretty much every thread on reddit that i could find

[heavy vigil]

jungles too ig

[ivory hull]

yea marshes suck tho in general and mountains yea

[tulip thorn]

Reddit for hoi4 💔

[tiny iris]

I am one of the top contributors in the CK3 subreddit.

All I do there is complain about Paradox.

[tulip thorn]

I know nothing about ck3, because I never liked ck

I prefer hoi and vic

[heavy vigil]

reddit is unreliable for the video game because a lot of good players only interact in discord servers like red baron due to the sheer amount of people not interested in learning/being stingy and wrong

[green lodge]

common reddit l

[tiny iris]

I only play Paradox grand strategy games or total war games.

[heavy vigil]

what about world of darkness famous paradox interactive video game

[tiny iris]

I play nothing but strategy.

[tulip thorn]

I do like cities skylines

But hoi4 for life

https://tenor.com/view/hearts-of-iron-hearts-of-iron-iv-hoi-hearts-of-iron-4-hoi4-gif-14684883426167911687

[fair horizon]

that guy makes amazing animations

[tulip thorn]

indeed

[left tusk]

somehow spanish civil wars still kicking on september 3rd 1939

only noticed cus i got a notification saying i can invite them to the axis

[rustic peak]

heh

[rustic peak]

I have a feeling that there will be one game where this happens, but then after the Nationalists join the Axis, the Republicans join the Comintern

[maiden verge]

Wow

[sudden thistle]

Is that supposed to be a flex

[tulip thorn]

Maybe

Personally not the thing i'd flex about but you know

I havent even done any pushing yet

[atomic grove]

wtf

[atomic grove]

how is "germany" able to spawn a diabolical amount of ships in seconds

[tulip thorn]

Magic

💔

I love when the ai just keeps trying to push

Just constantly attacking

[mystic cosmos]

Mod?

[long pier]

just my own modlist

[soft yacht]

what is even happening

poland is holding up bro

[strong umbra]

10 medals on one division

[honest vale]

When do the DLC’s go on sale?

[strong umbra]

2 mdeals for one dead guy btw

[strong umbra]

just tagged uk they have one civ

one

the uk

uk isnt looking too happy rn

[tulip thorn]

Crazy

[fair horizon]

historically accurate german navy btw

[atomic grove]

u mean the high seas fleet?

[full jewel]

anyone know why allies are still taking supply from my troops when the hub and nearby hub is turned off?

[eternal palm]

Maybe it's not your allies

But supply in general

[wind meteor]

this cant be real

[full jewel]

got a single division on the tile now and it still wont get enough supply

[eternal palm]

Mfw sp warriors discover planning:

[full jewel]

its also a very small div

[eternal palm]

Show screenshot

Are you lacking trains, convoys or both?

[strong umbra]

u wanna see historically accurate German fleet?

[strong umbra]

nah do aerial supply

best way to supply

trust

[tulip thorn]

Planning bonus my beloved

[full jewel]

single div finally getting some supply I konw its not the navy im just using it to block straight not parking it inside the port

[strong umbra]

100 steel

[tulip thorn]

Wonder why it wasnt getting supply

[strong umbra]

95 tungsten

75 chromium

[full jewel]

allied supply is turned off they wont leave

I think there just stealling food and water from my troops

[ember vine]

Manchukuo 1 milisecond after surviving:

[strong umbra]

send your super heavy tank build

and I'll show you my land cruiser build

[ember vine]

Just one super heavy so I can spam them autistically

[strong umbra]

one camel with land cruiser support

[ember vine]

W

[full jewel]

any ideas how to fix my issue?

[strong umbra]

aerial supply

build transport planes 1

set them on aerial suplly

[full jewel]

they dont seem to do much and I dont have much CP

[dawn marlin]

What mod is this?

[strong umbra]

trust

[sudden thistle]

I’m yet to see transport planes give a meaningful supply buff

[strong umbra]

put 30 mills on them

[full jewel]

K I will try it tommorow I have been on this game for to long

[strong umbra]

very very definetly helpfull

[heavy vigil]

@sudden thistle plays hearts of iron V

[strong umbra]

trust

[full jewel]

This is late late game dw I have EVERYTHING

[strong umbra]

does he not play hoi4?

[heavy vigil]

no

[strong umbra]

in that case use one camel with land cruiser super heavy aa art at and flame

[heavy vigil]

7K losses? GG

[full jewel]

No DLC's

[tulip thorn]

Iran is throwing

its over

[full jewel]

aint nothin but a broke boy

[strong umbra]

u can still make super heavy stuff

without nsb

[full jewel]

Hmm funny

[strong umbra]

wdym

u actually can

[heavy vigil]

this sucks

[strong umbra]

trust

very definetly worth it

[full jewel]

One thing thought enemies have So much stacks on few tile I can land on navel landings are not going well and they get pushed out quickly and so the enemies are literally not letting my dive rest so they die. Also I meant it was literally funny

[strong umbra]

only if u use peoples militia and expeditionary warfare tho

win how?

[full jewel]

Yea srry can't really focus on speeling right been hit by the hayfever truck

[sudden thistle]

Don’t let it get to this amount

[eternal palm]

Hmmm I think the 500 ships might have something to do with lacking supply

[eternal palm]

What are you invading with

And do u have cas

[strong umbra]

why am i losing this?

they are on patrol

[full jewel]

Amphibian tanks and the special navel people and yes I do have cas but only so much not many airports that they can reach from

[strong umbra]

I have quadruple their ships

[eternal palm]

Show template

[full jewel]

They are just sitting there holding back the horde across the straight

[eternal palm]

Where is their home base

If its set to that port they will take supply

[heavy vigil]

shoot them down

[full jewel]

Have to do it tomorrow cause I just hoped of ready for bed and hayfeever is killing me

[eternal palm]

GG

[strong umbra]

inflation is real

[full jewel]

Set to different pot on mainland china

[eternal palm]

And to me this looks like a lack of convoy

Or being raided

[strong umbra]

why is it 130 pp

for one medal

wasn't it 30

[full jewel]

25k convoys and no dlcs

[eternal palm]

Are you being raided or not

[full jewel]

Also they have no navy nor air

I'll figure it out tomorrow

[tulip thorn]

Increases everytime you add one

[strong umbra]

rate my navy

[tulip thorn]

So few screens

[strong umbra]

my army

my air force

[tulip thorn]

What is that artillery div

That is that

Why

Well got the hood

[strong umbra]

u mean this?

its got a whole .9 org

[strong umbra]

isnt that fantastic

[tulip thorn]

Are we for real right now

[strong umbra]

rate my tank division

[iron helm]

r5 facist italy in the baltics

[strong umbra]

goes at 35 km when u include the army thingies

tanks are supposed to be fast right?

[modern torrent]

there goes the brazilian military

[tulip thorn]

Im shocked that it even has breakthrough

[strong umbra]

naval battle

[strong umbra]

rate my navy based off of this performance

[tulip thorn]

Your navy wasnt even in that

[strong umbra]

oh hehe

[tulip thorn]

Just planes

[strong umbra]

this is my navy

well a part of it

[iron helm]

you damn wrecked the

British Communist Alternative

[strong umbra]

i have non his ai

[tulip thorn]

Have you sunk the hood

[strong umbra]

rate this division

[heavy vigil]

old but i do that too

[strong umbra]

yesa i have sunk the hood

or the hood isnt the rpide of the fleet anymore

[tulip thorn]

They cant change pride of the fleet till the hood is dead

[heavy vigil]

they can if you take it in peacedeal

[prisma saddle]

i was doing a non-aggression pact with czechoslovakia but it randomly stopped to do it

[strong umbra]

u can always change it

u can unassign pride of the fleets

[tulip thorn]

Well yeah

They dont have it anymore

[tulip thorn]

The ai cant

They arent programmed to do it

[strong umbra]

i may or may not have modded my game

[tulip thorn]

Unless they dont have the hood anymore

[strong umbra]

aq tine tiny bit

a very teeny tiny bit

ehm

[tulip thorn]

ok?

I mainly play modded

[strong umbra]

ehm

[tulip thorn]

Except for my recent achievement game as the ussr

[strong umbra]

ehm

ok i got bored

usually i dont p[lay modded

i just wanted to test the limits of the game

peak portrait

[tulip thorn]

oh cheat mod

Thats what you meant by modded a tiny bit

[strong umbra]

ehm

[tulip thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401563044231778305/1429356048241922070/attachment.gif

[strong umbra]

holy division

[strong umbra]

this aint even a cheat btw

a mod i mean

its vanilla

focus.ignoreprerequisites

[tulip thorn]

You have both peg and 4 year plan

thats a cheat

console is cheating during normal play

[strong umbra]

i mean why tf is this build in the game

[strong umbra]

.

[modern torrent]

and this game file got corrupted

i love this game

so much

[left tusk]

hey guys

[strong umbra]

atleast my non amerikabomber plane has got the range to bomb america

[left tusk]

my landing worked :)

[wind meteor]

finally

[strong umbra]

why is this even an achievement

[wind meteor]

doesnt matter

im just happy i did it

[zenith charm]

finally

[heavy vigil]

mcarthur

[crisp wyvern]

why is Hilton staring at me like zhat

does he think that I'm going to be able to do a successful counterattack?

[strong umbra]

are land cruisers the best?

[crisp wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[heavy vigil]

theyre ok

[strong umbra]

how abt land cruiser with 0 reliability

[heavy vigil]

best AA for sure

[heavy vigil]

nothing different

[strong umbra]

what does 0 reliability even do

does it mean it instantly break ro wut

[wind meteor]

i have no clue how to mass produce them, literally not enough resorces in the world to produce them effectivily

[heavy vigil]

when you attrition you lose more

[strong umbra]

what if im the kumul khanate?

[wind meteor]

impossible to actually use massively without cheats

[heavy vigil]

same thing

[strong umbra]

but what if

I

am

mari el

[fair horizon]

didnt even know this was a thing

[heavy vigil]

great god of light or something

country name in english

[strong umbra]

realm

[heavy vigil]

pretty neat name

[strong umbra]

yes

[heavy vigil]

my game isnt even on english idk

[strong umbra]

I realized

[wind meteor]

one more

[fair horizon]

doesnt beat emu empire imo

[strong umbra]

Australia is not fun

focus tree outdated

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[strong umbra]

they should revamp the focus trees of man the guns

except mexico

[sly venture]

Yall I’ve landed but I can’t push

[heavy vigil]

you know what australia has

[strong umbra]

wut

[fair horizon]

the HMAS Sydney

[heavy vigil]

non core land and coal

[strong umbra]

uhm

ok

[wind meteor]

tf you mean you cant push, the division in portsmouth is literally half dead

[heavy vigil]

does your favourite country start with non core land?

[fair horizon]

technically australia is really strong because you can release 2 puppers at the start of the game and have them grow

[sly venture]

they are too strong

[fair horizon]

and then annex them later for factories

[strong umbra]

yes I do love me some colonialism

[heavy vigil]

for dockyards you mean

[strong umbra]

turkey is so fun am right guys?

especially the focus tree

[wind meteor]

how, it seems non realistic

[fair horizon]

nah the generic focus tree

[strong umbra]

and it is one kf the few nations with a 140 day focus

[crisp wyvern]

no dlc turkey is hell

[wind meteor]

maybe you have a really bad template but even with the starting template it should be possible

[strong umbra]

why is turanist ambitions 140 days

[crisp wyvern]

having to fight two major powers just to form the ottoman empire

[fair horizon]

turkey is actually fun tbh

[crisp wyvern]

might as well go ahead and restart ww1

[crisp wyvern]

it is

[fair horizon]

they start with an alright navy and they're in europe sorta

[strong umbra]

dont you enjoy historical turkey?

you get to

sit around

and do nothing

[crisp wyvern]

no I hate it

[strong umbra]

isnt that so so fun

[crisp wyvern]

I don't want to keep Atatürks legacy

I WANT WAR

I WANT DEATH AND CIVILIAN SUFFERING

[strong umbra]

u get war and suffering

from historicsl

[heavy vigil]

it gives 3 docks

[crisp wyvern]

I WANT TO EXPAND MY JUICY BORDERS UNTIL THE ENTIRE WORLD IS SPEAKING TURKISH

[strong umbra]

just oppress the Kurds

[fair horizon]

and mils/civs

[crisp wyvern]

not enough

[strong umbra]

dont take this out of context

[heavy vigil]

you dont need those you have no core pop

[fair horizon]

free* mils and civs

[strong umbra]

guys make sure to always set your occupation law to brutal oppression and use Line aa only for the division

[fair horizon]

anyways if the australia dlc doesnt turn out im uninstalling

[strong umbra]

never add cavalry or mp

those give horrendous debuffs to occupation

[heavy vigil]

entire tree tension locked

[tulip thorn]

0 suppression 💔

[heavy vigil]

tbh i dont even hate the turkiye/prc thing where you kinda have 1 starting focus

tho as turkiye you should start with saadabat

[strong umbra]

you have 2

with goe

[heavy vigil]

since you wanna have pp while ataturk is alive

[heavy vigil]

technically 4

[strong umbra]

ig army and navy

[left tusk]

was it a bad idea to annex everything in the peacedeal

[strong umbra]

forgot abt that tho

[tulip thorn]

no

[zenith charm]

each time i look at it it gets worse

[left tusk]

ok

[strong umbra]

tbh they should have an option in the game to make the focus trees lile blackice

seems more fun

[tulip thorn]

Britannia does not rule the waves

[fair horizon]

honestly i could forgive that if the game just wasnt so buggy

[heavy vigil]

@fair horizon just replace australia and iceland in cosmetic tag and then play iceland

and like annex each other yk

[strong umbra]

why is Iceland sometimes just called IsLand

like no shit its an island

[tulip thorn]

[left tusk]

gb was too big of a baby to fight my navy so they sat in port and watched as i got enough projection to make landfall 😭

[tulip thorn]

lol

[olive remnant]

Which doctrine path is now similar to old mass assault

New doctrine so confusing

[tulip thorn]

Large unit tactics lowers infantry combat width

[olive remnant]

Thanks

What about good reinforce rate

How do I get that

[tulip thorn]

I dont know

[mystic nest]

Lmfao I went down the little entente route for france

And germany didnt even manage to cap the czechs before i capitulated them and italy in 41

First time i've seen that happen

They also didnt ge tpoland until I called poland in and ditn declare on belgium and the netherlands

Does the reaffirming eastern commitments route just blow up the german ai?

[azure walrus]

killed france, now we turn west 🤑

[strong umbra]

Definitely pick mounted infantry

and expeditionary war

[azure walrus]

how do i fix this

[strong umbra]

and pick Kr cavalry

[azure walrus]

(i need it to go back to 0)

[left tusk]

in this run the spanish civil war somehow survived past 1939 so i could invite them to my faction mid-war

it was funny

[strong umbra]

lose land

[left tusk]

which intern meant i could march 48 divisions and end the civil war

[azure walrus]

but when i get it back, it will go back yp

[strong umbra]

then dont get it back till ur done

[azure walrus]

alright

[strong umbra]

declare on someone weak

set a defensive line

[azure walrus]

ill pull this trick when i fight austria hungary

[strong umbra]

k

[azure walrus]

Yugo dead, Me go conquer

[mystic nest]

What is happening in spain bruh

[cursive oxide]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vs-AZVkSNWY just made this what do you guys think of it ?

[azure walrus]

the usual

[cursive oxide]

big boy italy

[mystic nest]

I've never seen 4 factions in spain

[azure walrus]

the carlists can rise up

which splits the nationalists into two factions

the carlists and the falangists

historically it didnt happen because franco made enough promises or something

[mystic nest]

zamn

spain is cooked

[azure walrus]

and they had little disagreements

[deep dagger]

Defending Finland from Sowjetunion

[azure walrus]

meanwhile the republicans were a much broader front

[tulip thorn]

No navy

[azure walrus]

ranging from anarchists to soviet bootlickers

(anarchists didnt rise up historically, that's made up by paradox)

(iirc)

[mystic nest]

Get that port up there and all of the soviets supply in the north dies

nvm you have like 41 divs

no pushing for you

[deep dagger]

Yea I will do it later not now

[mystic nest]

yeah i didnt see div count

[deep dagger]

excatly

[azure walrus]

um what the hell

czechoslovakia joined the comintern

now im fighting the ussr

😭

i just wanted early balkan expansion

i just wanted the roman empire back

[mystic nest]

GoTime for a small detour then

Or

Reload a save

And let germany annex them

[mystic nest]

The USSR cant reach you anyway right now

[mystic nest]

Romania and hungary hate the ussr they're not joinining, turkey stays neutral so you can go down and take the balkans anyway

Only way they could attack you is in egypt so just rush cairo and cut that off

[azure walrus]

wym

theyre in

[mystic nest]

WHAT

I thought romania was programmed to always join against the ussr

[azure walrus]

i was at war with czechoslovakia and romania

[mystic nest]

Wtf

Oh

Is romania in comintern??

[azure walrus]

yeah

[mystic nest]

cursed

yeah go knock out the ussr then

[azure walrus]

you know the worst part? britain's going communist

[mystic nest]

Is this historical? That's cursed

At least the us won't join their faction they hate if you're communist

Surely

[azure walrus]

this is nonhistorical

(historical is off)

usa is gonna be in civil war

[mystic nest]

Ah then it all makes sense

[mystic nest]

Lmfao

[azure walrus]

japan is going democratic

[mystic nest]

cursed

yeah this i why i only play historical lol

all my plans on borders get thrown out the window

[azure walrus]

i accidentally left historical off

[deep dagger]

Well Romania would either join Sowjetunion or Germany whatever threats them more as an enemy so they join them

[azure walrus]

hold on, turkey might be going empire

i could get them in my faction and open a second front

polands also going fascist if that does anything

gee golly that bulgarian front is looking suuuper understaffed

if only i had a second army to divert there

[sly venture]

am stuck in this hell hole

[azure walrus]

rate tje ship

[weary lagoon]

replace secondary batteries with the light cruiser guns

it's much better like that even if it's expensive

[azure walrus]

like this

[weary lagoon]

yep

and do get fire control 1 or 2 fast

for even more chance to hit

[azure walrus]

alright i will research when free slot

[sly venture]

if they defend this am quitting hoi4 4

[azure walrus]

austria did this

[azure walrus]

send better planes

[patent thistle]

i am just building "a few" carriers

[tulip thorn]

no

no no no no no

he has it perfect

[twin nebula]

Is No Compromise No Surrender worth it at all or nah?

[patent thistle]

that should be enough

after they are finished

[tulip thorn]

Keep the secondary batterys

[azure walrus]

???

what is difference

[tulip thorn]

its cheaper

and still has pretty similar stats

and more light piercing

[azure walrus]

holy hell, its just one italy, stop tryharding soviets

[patent thistle]

not for full price

i recomment waiting like i do for another steam sale

[azure walrus]

these buffoons are dead when i learn to make medium tnaks

[neat kayak]

this game is so stupid

hatless strat for battle royale doesn't work anymore

[patent thistle]

that might just be enough carriers

[tidal pollen]

Peg or autarky for Germany

[twin nebula]

Why’s that? Cause I already struggle enough with all the Plane and Navy Stuff but Im also lacking Gotterdamerung but guess thats another wait on a sale thing :/

[sly venture]

gg easy

[patent thistle]

the content is negliable for the cost it it set at

if you want to have the new japan tree? just play historical japan

the tree was reworked for free

[twin nebula]

Its more like I struggle as is with all the DLC Mechanics and whilst I want the new Alt Hist Germany/Japan Paths. Feels like I massively suck at this game with how much you need to do now.

Does that make sense @patent thistle

So IDK what to do @patent thistle

[teal osprey]

Hello guys! Im searching for people to make MP game

We have some small group and we play RT56 mod as "rp"

Someone wanna join ? [If yes dm me]

[lost dawn]

Dutch East Indies finally getting a real focus tree?

pog

[left jewel]

is it ok if one sucks ass at the game

[teal osprey]

Ya

One guy have 4h there

xD

Just dm me if u wanna play

[vital cove]

#historical-multiplayer

or #alt-history-multiplayer

[teal osprey]

Oh, okey! Thanks

[vapid tusk]

Are we de asada

With nee announcement

[safe wing]

which path?

[copper sluice]

is that a hoi4 reference

[copper sluice]

ok but doesnt this make the netherlands a lot worse if indonesia can just break away whenever they want

[vital cove]

they won't on historical

but yes for ahist

[copper sluice]

only losers play historical

where is the fun in that

[mystic nest]

I love historical:(

[tulip thorn]

Damn

Thats not very friendship at all

[patent thistle]

the japanese navy

[patent thistle]

POV: you have so many carriers that you do not have enough planes to fit them yet:

[copper sluice]

well im no friend

[azure walrus]

does anyone have a good strat for habsburg megapoland

[vital cove]

you mean coring Austria Hungary?

[ember vine]

No he meant Kingdom Of Poland

With Karl Habsburg

You annex and core czechoslovakia with that

[azure walrus]

Yes

[ember vine]

Wait

[vital cove]

that's just doing your focuses, don't need a guide for that
if you give Czechoslovakia the lands needed to form Austria Hungary, they'll do it, and when you annex them, you core all of it

instead of just Czechoslovakia

[azure walrus]

Yeah but how do I prevent them from getting maimed by their neighbors

(Mostly Germany or Austria)

I’m nonaligned at game start

[ember vine]

Czechoslovakia is a nation whose objective is to survive

[azure walrus]

And they’re democratic

[azure walrus]

Yeah well they’re not very good at it

[vital cove]

you have focus to puppet them no?

[ember vine]

They don't have anything to core but AH

[azure walrus]

They have to be independent to form AH don’t they

[vital cove]

idts

[ember vine]

Ohhh I know what you mean now

[azure walrus]

Wym

Do they not have to be independent to form ah anymore

[ember vine]

Get the intermarium pact done and invite czechoslovakia

[vital cove]

im pretty sure you can click the decision while you're a puppet?

I'm not near pc rn so can't check

[azure walrus]

Alright

Is ahistorical or historical better

[azure walrus]

yeah no they need to be independent 😭

[vital cove]

welp

hmm

there was old, i think hatless spider vid on it? but probably stuff changed

lemme see if i can find it

[azure walrus]

found it

new one from 4 months ago

[tidal pollen]

Autarky or priotize economic growth

[safe wing]

I meant for which Germany, because PEG is better for non historical Germany and Autarky is better for historical

[patent thistle]

maybe i should stop-

[icy lion]

i ally with japan and destroy the czech entente and america then get betrayed 🙁

[patent thistle]

did i forget to meantion i also have 4 yamato class ships?

I RAN OUT OF JAPANESE HISTORICAL CARRIER NAMES-

[vapid tusk]

What country should i play

Am bored

@azure walrus

[azure walrus]

Poland has various fun paths you could try

[vapid tusk]

It only has the tzo the castle and the other thing opposite of tzo

[azure walrus]

Oh do you not have no step back

[vapid tusk]

Na

[vapid tusk]

Lime

Wanna do multiplayer

@azure walrus

Its been 400 hours since i started playing and didnt do multiplayer

@azure walrus

@azure walrus

[deep dagger]

what is stalin doing gng

[vapid tusk]

Hell naw

[azure walrus]

I am busy right now

[vapid tusk]

Frick

[patent thistle]

i am going to touch the american fleet now

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon

[prisma saddle]

how defeat germany?

[olive remnant]

I haven't seen germany beat soviet once since NCNS dlc

Anyone else facing same issue?

[timber laurel]

yall think ill win or not

[strong umbra]

broski that is historical it should happen if u have HISTORICAL Ai focuses on

how is it a issue?

[timber laurel]

im pretty sure before the AI managed to win like everty 50 attempt

[strong umbra]

youre right they used to win it sometimes but now they usually dont even reach Russia proper

[strong umbra]

or they barely touch jg

[obsidian sigil]

would yall be able to solo this

[shy bloom]

Something aint right here

[timber laurel]

miam

this might actually be my first win as germany

the allies havent d-day'ed me yet

and italy won the north africa campaign

[patent thistle]

ez with CAS and a good tank template

[sudden thistle]

It’s an unintended “feature” from that update

[patent thistle]

what do you all say?

[tulip thorn]

yes

they have no supply

[patent thistle]

fr just reinforce meme

[tulip thorn]

yeah exactly

[patent thistle]

especially funny if you overrun them

[tulip thorn]

Speed meme armored cars:

[patent thistle]

the speedy, jetengine light tanK:

[timber laurel]

this is genuinely the first time i've won agaisnt the allies nd soviet with buffing myself

[patent thistle]

congrats, you just made yourself a constant thron in your side in the east

[timber laurel]

are you talking about the fact i let the USSR live?

[patent thistle]

yep.

[timber laurel]

no its intentional

i have a mod that gives you scripted peace deals with the soviet after a certain point

its gonna rupture into a civil war soon enough

its like TNO timeline

[patent thistle]

oh alr

[timber laurel]

does anyone know how to get less resistence and more compliance

[short ore]

Ion get naval in this game

[obsidian sigil]

if u on axis

rk+ makes soviet war too easy

llike only aa line? i can do that inlike

9 months

at least ural for like over a year

but no scripted peace is better for the challenge

especially because u can also do collab gov if its that dif

[timber laurel]

i did ural line

it saves me from the peace conference so im all for it tbh

[vast delta]

guy i got into an argument with 2 years ago now has a primo de rivera pfp ❤️‍🩹

[timber laurel]

why do my reichskommiseriats produce no troops

[young lake]

The Austrians are competent for ONCE in history

Also I know the battle of Verdun was a big thing right. But seriously it CANNOT be this important

37 divs on the tile.

WHY

[quiet vessel]

sad dorito man

[ionic crescent]

civil war skip mod is beautiful

[ripe slate]

Mine? 😮

[ionic crescent]

uh idk

i just use a civilw ar skip mod

because i dont like all the civil wars

[ripe slate]

Relatable

Very repetitive I find

[patent thistle]

because they have trouble with resistance

[timber laurel]

when i do the show resistence on map thing theres nothing though

[patent thistle]

do you have lands without cores?

[timber laurel]

no

i dont have resistence

like on MY LAND

and on their land too

theres no red thingy

[patent thistle]

if you have cores on every territory then their is no resistance

[timber laurel]

not for me but for my reichskommesiriats

they have resistence

[patent thistle]

ye because they dont core anything

i think the fact i can split my fleet in 2 like that and still have too many carriers says it all

[timber laurel]

oh okay

is there a way to do like

a cease-fire with the allies

[patent thistle]

sadly no. their isnt a limited peacedeal mechanic

which is what we desperately need

[timber laurel]

is there a mod for it perhaps

i took northern ireland after getitng ireland to join the axis

but idk how to use navy and how to use paratroopers so its a huge stalemate

[patent thistle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2813718431&searchtext=Peace+Negotiation
the only one that isnt out to date

[timber laurel]

is it for 1.17

[patent thistle]

you will have to look yourself

most likely

[thorn marten]

Can I join a game that's all dlc

If I don't have them

[patent thistle]

you dont need any, you will for the multiplayer get access to DLC content

[thorn marten]

Thanks

[sly venture]

Alright Britain is dead now what

[patent thistle]

LOL

(i am playing a mod)

[young lake]

Beat Russia Before the civil war even happened xd

[celest dirge]

Holyshit! Competence Italy for real! They even more comptetence than Japan.

[patent thistle]

those that dont want to read. the US basically gave me a blank check over the phillipines-

[young lake]

Austrian Ai in my game somehow destroyed the Russian southern front whilst outnumbered like 1:3 and managed to push all the way to rostov 🥹 ✌️

[timber laurel]

in my game italy is dunkingf on the allies in africa

i jsut had to help them with egypt nd now they're sandwiching the UK from the south and the north

[patent thistle]

the italian navy isnt actually that bad.

they just usually get folded by 4 british carriers early on

can this be constituted as bullying?

[timber laurel]

how do u guys use navy

its so confusing to me

[ripe slate]

I avoid using it because its mainly just whoever has the most dockyards

[safe wing]

Whoever has the most light cruisers*

[timber laurel]

it plays a big role whenever u want to capitulate the allies though

[safe wing]

Also when I did my Qing China naval run back in 2024 the USA didn’t build any ships

And it was on historical too

Considering that USA ship production was through the roof

[timber laurel]

lowk dont know how to use air either

[safe wing]

Basically I went into fighting the USA thinking this

[timber laurel]

i have like 200 hours of playtime too

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-finally-worthy-legendary-gif-21456320

[young lake]

🥹 ✌️

Still 100% stability

And no food shortages

[safe wing]

Yes I made a big ass navy as Qing China in road to 56

Its probably my favorite feat I’ve done in the game

[strong umbra]

wow I didn't know you were lile that

disrespecting naval bombers

your clearly underestimating naval bombers

and aerial minelaying

[timber laurel]

whhy is ur naame bhutanese land cruiser division

[strong umbra]

because land cruisers can be obtained by bhutan

[timber laurel]

is the joke supposed to be that bhutan can get a land cruiser division and kill everyone

[strong umbra]

I am a bhutanese division with land cruiser support company

[strong umbra]

no I got it from @ember vine

[quasi osprey]

is this agood heavy tank div for a minor in 1937?

[strong umbra]

which minor?

[quasi osprey]

norway

[timber laurel]

why use heavy tanks

ion get it

medium tanks are so superior

[quasi osprey]

idk are they really I thought heavy tanks were better

[strong umbra]

heavy tanks

are vehic

les

[heavy vigil]

just dont use tanks if you cant afford/have supports for them

[strong umbra]

nah

[quasi osprey]

I can afford a few divs probably just for breaking the enemies line

[heavy vigil]

norway actually gets cheap light tanks

[strong umbra]

make sure to use pure tanks onlu

[heavy vigil]

they get like

improvised armor and stuff

but just add tanks to like mountaineers then

[strong umbra]

Definitely use armored cars very definetly best vehicle for norway

[night wasp]

how hard is it to build a decent navy that could sink the british fleet as an average minor nation?

[toxic cypress]

1 day per year but atleast we winning

[patent thistle]

UK why even bother?

now they are trying

too bad it aint gonna go well

[clear dagger]

then 28 days later happens

[winged field]

Not as hard as you think, it just takes time. Spam max light attack light cruisers. Have at least 20 of them before you try anything.

[night wasp]

isnt just light cruisers not enough?

they will sink in the first battle

[night wasp]

dont you need some screens or something

[winged field]

Nope

[winged field]

You might as well spend those extra dockyards for either chepeast carries or battleships with focus on AA

destroyers are kinda useless

same with subs

[strong umbra]

no

just build super heavy battleships

not even joking theyre actually good

[patent thistle]

UK you quite litterally already lost a massive carrier fleet why even bother trying?

[young lake]

God Bless the Might German Navy 🥹 ✌️

[night wasp]

how many would you need approximately

[patent thistle]

i usually build around 2-4

[strong umbra]

I built ten and destroyed the uk navy

[night wasp]

so 2-4 shbb and ~20 light cruisers?

its that simple?

[patent thistle]

YOU ARE NOT GETTING AWAY UK

[night wasp]

what about engagement risk

[strong umbra]

or u could build 4k navy bombers

[strong umbra]

always

[toxic cypress]

beautiful

sadly had to play commies for the achieivement

[night wasp]

theres no way ts not sinking in the first battle

[patent thistle]

i usually set it to always and watch the sailors slowly drown

[toxic cypress]

but i killed 10mil of em so

evens out

[strong umbra]

trust

[night wasp]

ill try it out rn

ty

[strong umbra]

1shbb>uk navy

[toxic cypress]

anyway im kinda cooked

[patent thistle]

if i was a british admiral i would quit my job

[night wasp]

will this design do?

[strong umbra]

not expensive enough

[night wasp]

were talking about minor nations though 😭

[strong umbra]

make it 25000 ic

[strong umbra]

if your going quality then you better double down

thats what germany did

and oh boy their tanks were good

[night wasp]

wouldnt that take ages to build atleast 5 of these

how much would 1 take approximately