hoi4-general

[uncut pollen]

Sure

Let me just Look up some totorials

[stable pelican]

nuh uh

[patent thistle]

DONT SURRENDER AN INCH OF TERRITORY

[stable pelican]

take stalingrad from the bastards

[patent thistle]

the game is running at like 5 frames rn-

IT DROPPED DOWN TO 2-

WHY IS THE GAME RUNNING WORSE WITH LESS NATIONS-

[stable pelican]

because it cant handle all that power

[sly venture]

yea we landed but we can’t break through

I thought the difficult part was over

[patent thistle]

hell naw the difficult part begins when the UK is actually at home

[sly venture]

my troops became paralised and won’t move even when am macroing and I have 5 second to push before I am surrounded by 50 divs

[patent thistle]

this is why i made mediums to help the beginning push

[sly venture]

I managed to push one time but I am dumb asf and forgot to defend Dover

[patent thistle]

this is why you dont soley make a naval invasion towards dover

[sly venture]

I also wanted to land on the north sea but the uk sunk all my navy

[patent thistle]

what i usually do is also hit portsmouth

[heavy vigil]

what is this

[sly venture]

the uk has actually functional defense with gotterdammerung and I hate that

[vapid tusk]

Scotland and wales should be totally empthy

[sly venture]

They ain’t

[vapid tusk]

Can u answer about my template then

[sly venture]

I only have 100 hours idk about templates

[vapid tusk]

Same bruh

I think lil motr

More

I always use 9 batallions of infantry and 1-3 of artillery even on bhutan

@heavy vigil

[heavy vigil]

huh

[sharp sierra]

i hate how they try to prevent cheesing civil wars in newer paths

[vapid tusk]

Can u help ne

[heavy vigil]

no

[vapid tusk]

Why

[heavy vigil]

maybe

[vapid tusk]

This

[heavy vigil]

do you want the short or long answer

[vapid tusk]

Short

[quasi shoal]

not really

[heavy vigil]

bad, cost high, cost could go better unit

[vapid tusk]

I have 33k and 13k of weapons and artillery in stock

[sly venture]

from what I know if it has artillery it’s bad

[vapid tusk]

1942 bte

Guys look

[quasi shoal]

you could drop artillery production and be able to make way more units

[vapid tusk]

Should i start pushing

[vapid tusk]

I have for like 40 divisions rn

[heavy vigil]

doesnt provide information

idk

[vapid tusk]

A have 5 army's in main front

3 in italy

And air superiority even in poland

[heavy vigil]

ok that tells nothing

[sly venture]

you will either capitulate in 10 days or hold the line

[quasi shoal]

if you had tanks you could've won by now

it looks like the germans don't have much on the maginot

[vapid tusk]

Is 1942 and Germany didnt even did war with ussr (focus)

[vapid tusk]

I dont usually do tanks

[heavy vigil]

yeah they dont if they dont cap france

[quasi shoal]

if you went down to italy to support the invasion you could prolly win

[vapid tusk]

Maybe exceptions when german historical

[vapid tusk]

Thats what am doing cuz uk and usa are spamming red clouds

[quasi shoal]

I would if I were you

makes punching through stagnant lines like this really easy

[sly venture]

do you have no step back?

[sharp sierra]

if u put tanks in ur units like u do artillery the game would be much funner

[vapid tusk]

Only Gotterdammerung

[vapid tusk]

Just cutted italy in half

[sly venture]

oh k don’t do tanks they are pretty bad without no step back

[vapid tusk]

Now am researching anti air and artillery

Mussolini deposed

Civil war should be close

[vapid tusk]

I can defeat 11 germans divisions with 4 infantry and 2 trucks

[quasi shoal]

space marines?

[quasi shoal]

they're still decent

just you can make them a lot better

[vapid tusk]

I think i should push

Germans alr pushing for 300 Divisions

[sharp sierra]

with special forces

[quasi shoal]

space marine special forces

🔥

[sly venture]

I don’t think it’s worth it tho

[vapid tusk]

@quasi shoal should i start pushing alr

[quasi shoal]

yeah why not

[vapid tusk]

Before germans get to much divisions

I only see red bubbles around maginot

Italy and occupied benelux are falling

Should i do naval invasions in mainland

[quasi shoal]

🤷

[vapid tusk]

K

[azure walrus]

are light tanks worth using as italy

[ivory hull]

no

never

[azure walrus]

alright then

i suppose my factories will be focusing on transport planes

[ivory hull]

go for mountaineers

[azure walrus]

mountaineers cant fly tho

and i need paratroopers to paradrop france

maybe britain too

but will probably use marines

[azure walrus]

why

i need the transports for my paratroopers

[ivory hull]

cause they are good

[azure walrus]

but will they kill france

quickly

and britain

i have mountaineers researched at game start anyway

[vapid tusk]

I just noticed sweden under german control

Wtf

🥀

[azure walrus]

starting production

(italy)

[ivory hull]

stop producing those shitty airplanes

only transport planes

[azure walrus]

alright

[ivory hull]

the rest wont do anything for you

wait till you can get good air

[azure walrus]

updated production

[ivory hull]

15 on transports might be a lil much

you only need like 300 by 1939

[azure walrus]

1939?

i would prefer to kill france earlier

as early as possible

[ivory hull]

15 still are a lil much imo

[azure walrus]

fair enough, can i switch after the ethiopian war or is my production relevant to killing ethiopia fast?

[ivory hull]

it depends on how fast you kill em

put some more on guns tho

and support eq

[azure walrus]

?

[ivory hull]

looks good

[azure walrus]

i have forced the dockyards to finish the ships that are close to done and scrapped the rest

[vapid tusk]

Frickin Hungary declared greater Hungary 10 days before it died

[azure walrus]

i will also be justifying on austria which may raise wt by a relevant amount

[quiet vessel]

danubian confederation is so fun

i love making a chonky faction and just slapping germanys ass

[azure walrus]

hmm

[quiet vessel]

ru trynna insta kill france?

[azure walrus]

after i kill ethiopia and austria

and yugoslavia

(and hopefully romania but who knows)

as in, I hope yugoslavia refuses my damn ultimatum so i can get it and romania

in one fell swoop

[vapid tusk]

Fun fact if u attack romania by 1937 (rushing war with greece focus) u can have balkan dominance

[azure walrus]

i see

[quiet vessel]

justify on syria for less wt, put ur troops not on ur border but a fallback line a bit behind it so the french troops advance in with french planes above in that area so the planes arent over their vp, make sure ur paradrop plans r acc ready when u declare

[azure walrus]

my air base is right on the border tho

see above

there is like no space to move back

[twin nebula]

what happened to bros state names

[azure walrus]

my game glitched at some point and now i just live with it

[twin nebula]

one of my friends has none of the division pictures

like the horse

and the m1 helmet

[azure walrus]

alm

they should try verifying the integrity of the game files or whatever

idk

[quiet vessel]

fallback line sum like this

with the airbase on the line

[azure walrus]

will the french attacking my airbase not affect the paratroopers

[twin nebula]

if you lose the airbase the paradrop isn't gonna work

[azure walrus]

will it work if the french try and push into the base

[quiet vessel]

the airbase aint on the border though so ur fine

[twin nebula]

if they don't take it

then your fine

[quiet vessel]

its in a province away from the border

so u can draw ur fallback line on it

the amount of times ive insta killed france as italy in 36 pains me

[twin nebula]

I love my stockpile

[quiet vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-marvel-benedict-cumberbatch-dr-stephen-strange-doctor-strange-gif-17768528

feels like this trynna rmemeber everything🥹

[quiet vessel]

tranport pane

[azure walrus]

tranport plan

[twin nebula]

beautiful, just beautiful

[azure walrus]

who even are you

[left jewel]

holy moly

[azure walrus]

what even is this

[left jewel]

aah

[twin nebula]

the powerhouse of andorra

[azure walrus]

ah, thought you were romania

is this rt56

[twin nebula]

ye

[azure walrus]

youre forming catalonia right

[quiet vessel]

manpower is the full population

[left jewel]

whys unc playing as andorra though 😭

[vapid tusk]

Are these most normal after ww2 borders?

[twin nebula]

I'm gonna form aragon

[quiet vessel]

just dont look at spain...

[left jewel]

Who tf did north south divide on spain

[azure walrus]

do you deny the greatness of the principality of andorra? shame on you.

[azure walrus]

alr

[vapid tusk]

Me

[twin nebula]

pain and suffering

[vapid tusk]

Dw gonna fix it

[quiet vessel]

who is the grey in konisberg

[vapid tusk]

Prussia

[twin nebula]

yall fw andorran mils

[vapid tusk]

Usa fault btw

[left jewel]

Also how did you guys manage to cockblock the ussr so badly

[azure walrus]

pure greatness

[vapid tusk]

What?

[quiet vessel]

no iron curtain?🤧🤧

[twin nebula]

somehow managed to get 3 civs as andorra

and 3k army size

[quiet vessel]

disregard schlong switzerland

[vapid tusk]

What?

[left jewel]

like they fought a great patriotic war only to get the baltics, bebassarabia and białystok

[vapid tusk]

Oh they didnt go to war with Germany

[twin nebula]

holy shit

I got a mil

[quiet vessel]

switz has an extra state from austria...

[vapid tusk]

Extending maginot line is really something to germsi

Germany

[vapid tusk]

Oh yea i did that

[twin nebula]

I can do both

[vapid tusk]

Should i leave borders like these or give everything to spain

[left jewel]

you should play as free city of danzig and form prussia

true pain, that

[azure walrus]

you are become Catalonia, assimilator of Aragonese territories

(do it)

[quiet vessel]

sri lanka world conquest 😤

[twin nebula]

might

right now I'm just trying to get tanks so I can roll over the weird spanish civil war thing that spawns in catalonia

[vapid tusk]

I was about to give all of northern Italy to Switzerland btw

[left jewel]

play as rusynia (released from czechloslovakia) and form ukraine

[deep dagger]

Hello guys, how are y’all doing?

[vapid tusk]

Anarchist

[azure walrus]

(aka carpathian ruthenia)

[left jewel]

you mean the regional defence council of aragon?

[vapid tusk]

Talking about how i defeated Germany a as france in 1939

[left jewel]

Dont EVER disrespect the defence council of aragon

[deep dagger]

Spam cas and Fighters

But good ones

[quiet vessel]

they may have lost the civil war, but they didnt lose my heart

[vapid tusk]

I dont research planrs

Wanna see my research

[left jewel]

me personally i just got czechia and poland in the french entente and bummed them that way

[quiet vessel]

why??

do u get any anti air

[vapid tusk]

Idk i feel like its useless

[vapid tusk]

Yes

[deep dagger]

Tbh if German has air superiority it’s almost impossible

[vapid tusk]

No dlc but Gotterdammerung btw

[deep dagger]

To win

[twin nebula]

fear the great andorran tanks

[left jewel]

just pirate the game at this point

or

[vapid tusk]

Or ask my brother

For flc

Ddlc

Dlc

[left jewel]

dont feed paradox, the dlc isnt worth the price

[vapid tusk]

I think the next dlc am asking for its la resistance

[viral shuttle]

What country should I play millennium dawn the director cut

[vapid tusk]

I really need agents

[deep dagger]

AA is not effective like fighters, they just shoot down cas I believe

Like only a few

[quiet vessel]

la resistancs is straight buns

[left jewel]

Or you can not ask for anything and hop on steamrip with an addblocker

[vapid tusk]

How do i defeat soviets without going to siberia?

[quiet vessel]

i use agencies for diplo pressure and thats it🤧

[deep dagger]

You need no step back gng

[quiet vessel]

you go to urals maximum boi

i played with no dlc for ages

[deep dagger]

So you can make good tanks atleast

[vapid tusk]

How the heck i have 390 hours at hoi4

I though i had less

[left jewel]

i hit 1100 like a week ago 🙁

[quiet vessel]

why is ncns reviews on steam so bad

i love it

japan is so fun

[left jewel]

because they overcomplicated the navy lol

[twin nebula]

andorra ain't built for this

[quiet vessel]

yah that does suck

[vapid tusk]

Any japanese user can defeat china by 1938

[quiet vessel]

let's make a mechanic nobody likes even worse

i'm pretty sure you can't sea lion no more without rebuilding sum high seas fleet

[left jewel]

The thing is that very rarely do people play in asia so to them its just paradox forcing more game mechanics that nobddy asked for

[twin nebula]

andorra was brutally slimed off the face of the earth by 55 spanish fascist divisions

[left jewel]

I managed to do it through north sea

[vapid tusk]

I need discounts on dlc for my brother to consider buying it for me

[left jewel]

or you can go on steamrip

[vapid tusk]

Naa

[azure walrus]

its been 40 days and i just realized i didnt set my achievement run to historical, is it worth continuing?

[quiet vessel]

steamrip dodgy af

[quiet vessel]

non historical is fun

go for it

[twin nebula]

I gotchu

hold up

[quiet vessel]

u can still get the achievment

[azure walrus]

i guess ill try

[vapid tusk]

Why not

[left jewel]

yes dude, ahistorical makes it more fun

[azure walrus]

but my achievements and predictability

[left jewel]

also i have 1100 hours and 0 achievements

Xddd

[vapid tusk]

Me with 390 and 8

[twin nebula]

I actually have something to work with ngl

[left jewel]

the lion is deadly terrified of ironman mode

[twin nebula]

might have to swap out the garrisons for normal infantry

[vapid tusk]

My rarest achievement is s great hunger with 0.8% of players having it

[quiet vessel]

i have like all of the achievmeents besides the new ncns ones, and some south america cus that stuff stinks

[left jewel]

I mostly play with mods so thats why

[quiet vessel]

mine is that new nuclear sub phillipines one

its like 0.1% i think

[vapid tusk]

I play with only Gotterdammerung so thats why

[left jewel]

you should try france expanded you can get napoleon in and turn the country comminist

[quiet vessel]

need la resistance

[opal nymph]

That is cursed

Communist Napoleonic Empire

Be careful of rule 6

the mods like to smite people for that

so shhhh

[quiet vessel]

i wish romania wasnt so ahh

[vapid tusk]

There are rules?

[restive sable]

perfect recipe for larp (fun)

[quiet vessel]

i want a dlc with yugo and romania in it

[opal nymph]

#server-rules they in fact exist

[vapid tusk]

I enjoy more romania no dlc that Germany with dlc

[opal nymph]

You do

It is called base game

Death or Dishonor got integrated

[quiet vessel]

death or dishonor dont count

[viral shuttle]

This took forever

[quiet vessel]

i want a modern dlc

[restive sable]

if it's base game then the dlc dont exist no more essentially

romania and especially yugoslavia need a rework

[opal nymph]

Well Yugo already got a rework after it and Romania got some extra content as well

[vapid tusk]

Show me the focus tree of romania right noe

[opal nymph]

so

[restive sable]

it's pretty lackluster if anything

[deep dagger]

When tunna tuva focus tree

[opal nymph]

Well it used to be worse

[restive sable]

yeah ik

[quiet vessel]

crazy how ur first focus as romania can totally changed ur ideology

[restive sable]

still though

would be nice if there was more done with especially yugoslavia

[viral shuttle]

When will base hoi4 become better than road to 56 smh

[restive sable]

partisans mechanic maybe?

[quiet vessel]

yugo has so much potential

[restive sable]

there should be a way to establish

collaboration regimes

like irl

[opal nymph]

I should actually play with the open-beta

[vapid tusk]

Its the same fricking tree

[quiet vessel]

yes but gangalang im making a romania mod so yeah

[twin nebula]

do you think I can afford much better than this as danzig?

[opal nymph]

Well in the past it used to be generic

[restive sable]

nedic's serbia, montenegro, banat, and maybe a more accurate croatia or something idk

[opal nymph]

so take that

[quiet vessel]

guys do we wanna see the economic branch of my romania mod

see if its ass or gas

[vapid tusk]

Ki

[opal nymph]

Also the revamp allowed Romania to switch sides more easily and gave it an extra focus or 2

[left jewel]

i would say wait until germany is going in on poland and try to get gdynia or more

[deep dagger]

Now compare it with the road to 56 mod

[restive sable]

personally only reason i dont play rt56 all too much is i dislike the heavy changes to research from vanilla

so much more to research

[left jewel]

Rt56 focus tree is kind of bunz

[restive sable]

bit overwhelming

[left jewel]

RT56 focus trees genuinely just feel so generic

sometimes

[quiet vessel]

is this ass or gas for romanian economic branch i made

[deep dagger]

Well yea some are weird ik

[opal nymph]

But that requires playing R56

Which has a crappy historical setting

Baltics constantly explode and other ahistorical stuff

[deep dagger]

Didn’t play r56 for a long time

[left jewel]

you guys should try regnum poloniae

[quiet vessel]

i dont use rt56 cus it like quadruples my load time into the game

and i cba to wait

[restive sable]

some of them yeah

[twin nebula]

can you make a mod that gives ireland a focus tree

[restive sable]

i love the napoleonic france path tho that rt56 adds

[twin nebula]

where you can do a pro-axis IRA coup

[left jewel]

Regnum Poloniae gives a funny amount of monarchist paths to Poland

[quiet vessel]

idk bro this is my first ever mod and i kinda suck as you can see😭

[deep dagger]

Fr

[restive sable]

it's so good 😭🙏

[twin nebula]

how you even make the focus tree

[left jewel]

Dude that economic tree is gas

[deep dagger]

The base game they don’t even change the flag

[quiet vessel]

i use vscode

[twin nebula]

what now

[quiet vessel]

thank you🙏

[restive sable]

france NEEDS a rework

[quiet vessel]

its an application

on pc

[restive sable]

looks nice

[quiet vessel]

modding isnt too difficult

[left jewel]

yeah 100% which is why you play with france expanded mod

[twin nebula]

do you have to code and shi?

[left jewel]

Yes but i need to know coding which i dont

[restive sable]

thing is sometimes i like to go for achievements

[quiet vessel]

well i dont but i watched a couple videos and it was easy

paradox make it rly easy for you

[deep dagger]

Don’t they have a wiki that explains every mechanic you need for coding?

[quiet vessel]

yes the wiki is heaven

i alway have the wikis open

[deep dagger]

Ye

[left jewel]

Though tbh i dont see how romania could have a good endgame goal except maybe for balkan dominance but balkan dominance is hard because every country in there except for bulgaria and hungary are guaranteed

[twin nebula]

or latin union

[restive sable]

i really think they should rework how the balkans work

the guarentees should disappear eventually

[vapid tusk]

Just finished my french run what should i play rn

[restive sable]

no way france would instantly step in too

[twin nebula]

gets cores on italy, france, romania, portugal, spain, south america

[restive sable]

if bulgaria just declares war on romania

they should do something more to what rt56 does with the little entente and balkan pact

maybe a national spirit

[left jewel]

Or more like a monroe doctrine kinda thing, let the balkans self destruct but dont let any foreign power interfere

[restive sable]

maybe to expand it they could do what they did with the

saadabad pact

[quiet vessel]

im prolly gonna make some thing where france just removes the guarantee since they dont wanna get involved in balkan wars in 1938

[restive sable]

sub-branch

[quiet vessel]

i somehow doubt frances biggest problems in 38 is the balkans

[restive sable]

that'd be nice

i think we need a balkan rework

[quiet vessel]

i also wanna make a decent amount of demanding land

[restive sable]

czechoslovakia getting a focus thing is really nice

and hungary got some stuff

[quiet vessel]

and coring land

[left jewel]

100% but paradox devs are gonna sell us an individual docus tree for 10 bucks

[twin nebula]

whats a good way to get independance points

[restive sable]

honestly bulgaria's tree is pretty good

out of the older trees in the balkans it's probably the only one i like

[quiet vessel]

i think we should next get a US dlc

then balkans dlc

[restive sable]

i think they could have a US dlc include like

Canada, UK and maybe Ireland

it'd be kind of fitting

[twin nebula]

yo what

[quiet vessel]

yeah makes sense

[restive sable]

atlantic-oriented typa deal

[quiet vessel]

canada you cant do a whole lot though

[restive sable]

romania, greece and yugo desperately need it

[quiet vessel]

ur only neighbour is uk and usa

[quiet vessel]

yes

[restive sable]

yeah that's the problem

[quiet vessel]

maybe albania get a lil one

[deep dagger]

I mean UK has decent dlc but like USA would need a rework and all colonies of the uk including Ireland

[restive sable]

was bout to mention it

[quiet vessel]

greece byzantium is so disappointing

[dusky burrow]

Honestly not unexpected

[left jewel]

You guys should try rise of the lion mod for czechloslovakia

[restive sable]

yeah

i'd agree

ireland's situation pre-war should be better represented too

[quiet vessel]

czechoslvokia is getting a dlc or smthn soon right

[left jewel]

Yes but its paradox doing it so keep expectations low lol

[restive sable]

it's really disappointing there's no real good monarchist path

no monarchist byzantium is kind of pathetic

[quiet vessel]

truly

turkeys focus tree is good

[left jewel]

????

its a mess

[restive sable]

why is some niche fascist that like 3 people have heard about the ONLY one who can restore it

[quiet vessel]

i like it

[restive sable]

that's kind of dumb

[quiet vessel]

its fun

[restive sable]

yeah i've played turkey more recently

i thought it's tree was bad but i personally like it

aside from some of the focuses being absurdly long

[twin nebula]

lithuania has 6 divisions and germany has 32

[deep dagger]

You have to go democratic to form it right?

[quiet vessel]

i like the bit at the bottom where it just turns into angry turkey and takes everything

[restive sable]

fascist

[deep dagger]

Or was it turkey

[left jewel]

Idk turkey kind of implodes in most of my games before being bummed by soviets

[deep dagger]

Oh right

[twin nebula]

yo what is going on

[restive sable]

democratic is greater greece (hellas)

iirc

[quiet vessel]

playing iraq or iran sucks though because the whole middle east is just uk or france

and god forbid i dont want to join ww2 for freakin lebanon

[left jewel]

Paradox desperately needs a peace out thing

[restive sable]

if they added white peaces to it

[left jewel]

like the vietcong didnt need to march to the white house to get peace

[twin nebula]

yo what

[restive sable]

it would've geniunely been a good dlc

[left jewel]

RIP hungary

[restive sable]

i personally like iran's tree though

it's fun

afghanistan i've had a little bit of fun with but i also got lucky with the ahistorical rng

[quiet vessel]

i like the hashemite thing in iraq

[restive sable]

hashemite iraq is really fun too

[quiet vessel]

i literally have never played afghanistan

[twin nebula]

everyone in europe is at war

[restive sable]

cant say i recommend it

[left jewel]

Ive played it once and was stuck in a perpetual civil war until 1939

[umbral agate]

what does this mean?

[twin nebula]

except the benelux

[restive sable]

i've played it twice and that's two more times than was necessary in my life

[quiet vessel]

any combat in afghanistan is hell

[twin nebula]

you can only send volunteers to sinkiang I think

[restive sable]

supply situation is enough to send someone into insanity

[umbral agate]

nope

[quiet vessel]

there is a focus that you took before choosing which chinese faction u spoort

[deep dagger]

How do you rate the new dlc?

[left jewel]

I wish they added a better way to rearrange puppets

[deep dagger]

I mean I really want tha faction mechanic

[finite plume]

Added a few more VP's to Mindanao

[umbral agate]

q1this?

[twin nebula]

what is mindano

[finite plume]

Filipino island

[twin nebula]

oh

that's like collapsing world type map

[quiet vessel]

no the focus below that. the one thats like two red flags

and its mutually exclusive with some others

that picks who u support

[restive sable]

ncns?

[quiet vessel]

9/10 i love it

[finite plume]

Mixed

[quiet vessel]

china is so easy now

[finite plume]

Focus trees and stuff are nice

[restive sable]

i think it was pretty overhated solely because of the price personally

[quiet vessel]

i can hold shandong now

easily

[finite plume]

But they completely destroyed navy

[restive sable]

more warlords and a complete rework for manchuria

would've been nice

but i really enjoyed nat china and especially japan

[quiet vessel]

manchuria could be so mych better

[restive sable]

philippines even is fun

and the faction and doctorine reworks are both pretty nice in my opinion

[finite plume]

Would invading this no strait Philippines be fun 🙏

[restive sable]

at least they added a little bit more to it

[quiet vessel]

desperate defense doctrine is crazy it adds so much potential to countries

[restive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-crying-downfall-sad-tears-praying-gif-7785197299162436598

[quiet vessel]

instant 5% recruitable

[restive sable]

god this looks painful

to invade

[left jewel]

collapsing world is peak

[quiet vessel]

think you missed a spot

[finite plume]

Yeah I'm working on Luzon soon

Last Island I need

In my mod I'm gonna make Marines be able to leave non-port coasts by default so

That should make island hopping more stress-free

[quiet vessel]

i think they should let me make my divisions swim

[azure walrus]

i have my first 52 pp, who should i justify on first, france(syria) or austria

(i am italy)_

[finite plume]

Here's all the VPs of mainland China btw

[quiet vessel]

id say france just get it done

[left jewel]

Whats ur mod about

[finite plume]

Modern day, starts in 2025

[restive sable]

looks nice

[finite plume]

Unlike MD or NV tho mine's more gameplay/war focused

I plan to add formables, alt-history, etc

[left jewel]

So its like a sandbox mod?

[finite plume]

Yes

[left jewel]

ohh nice

i love those lol

md is overcomplicated and loads like a brick while nv is old and has unfun focus trees

[finite plume]

Yeah I wanna have long content but content that's actually fun

[quiet vessel]

why are modern day mods just so ahh

they so boring

i dont wanna micromanage my rural villages

[finite plume]

People would rather spend a year forming an empire than removing an economic debuff y'know

[left jewel]

because devs focus on realism over fun a lot of the time

[azure walrus]

i dont have paras yet tho, and there's only a 64 day window between the justification finishing and paras getting researched

[left jewel]

if i wanted to play decision menu politics simulator i wouldnt be playing hoi4

[finite plume]

There's an energy system in my mod where you can build power plants

[quiet vessel]

then dont

[finite plume]

Shouldn't be too tedious since you can just trade

[azure walrus]

so austria then?

and french syria right after

[quiet vessel]

sure

[finite plume]

Probably cause they think they have to stay within the boundaries of irl

[left jewel]

nobody wants them too aswell

[quiet vessel]

wait until they realise its a game

[finite plume]

In my mod I won't have any factions at the start either

[azure walrus]

fahh i accidentally started justifying on syria, wasting my 50 pp

[finite plume]

Like CSTO or NATO

[azure walrus]

and i cancelled it

😠

eh ill js wait

[quiet vessel]

yes i will be letting romania eat all of the balkans without stupid rng or waiting 10 years 😘

[left jewel]

I would say TFR is a good modern day mod but its too railroaded

or dependant on chance

[quiet vessel]

i remember that one greece mod that made it like op as hell

[left jewel]

and you have to wait for ages before shit happens

[quiet vessel]

and it was so much fun

[azure walrus]

does tno count

its kind of modern day in the sense that theres a cold war going on rn

[left jewel]

It's not modern day but its still pure slop

[left jewel]

its a decisions menu politics simulator in anywhere but russia

[azure walrus]

counterpoint: china

(the npa)

[left jewel]

I havent played china but in every one of my runs nothing happened there

Except china got a little less red

[finite plume]

Rn the planned alt-history stuff I have planned for the mod are prob gonna be:

• 2nd Iran-Iraq War
• 4th Mexican Civil War
• Turkiye-Syria War
• Russian-Ukrainian War

[quiet vessel]

i feel like asia in this game is the weird cousin i kind of ignore and hope goes away

[left jewel]

What countries are getting content?

[finite plume]

Pretty much every country in some shape or form

[azure walrus]

the npa in yunnan/xinan starts a war against just the reorganized government of china, and if they win they fight just japan+manchuria+mongolia+tibet+guangdong

[quiet vessel]

my boi sri lanka?😤👹

[finite plume]

I don't really wanna have rail roaded content or an inevitable world war

I want things to be more regional and player-driven

[azure walrus]

PLEASE reformed georgian empire

[left jewel]

PLEASE find a way to get napoleon in

[quiet vessel]

am i the only one who hates those like rectangle focus icons like most mods do

[azure walrus]

or united turkic state

[finite plume]

They could form the Kingdom of Kandy

[quiet vessel]

like i want my focus icons to bd circles

[left jewel]

They dont matter much to me, if theyre cool idm

[azure walrus]

russian-ukrainian war isnt alt history

[quiet vessel]

please do this🙏

[finite plume]

I'll implement that

[azure walrus]

tuff

ty

[quiet vessel]

one where russia wins is🤧

[finite plume]

My mod doesn't start with any wars so

[azure walrus]

TECHNICALLY it hasnt ended yet

[finite plume]

In this timeline it wouldn't have happened yet

[azure walrus]

so delayed by 4+ years

[left jewel]

Is there a specific point of divergence or nah

[finite plume]

Perhaps

[finite plume]

I'll prob add game settings for whether AI can do more risky things like formables or war goals

[quiet vessel]

will femboy poland be a path

[finite plume]

😔 ✌️

[azure walrus]

we need AI albania

like loji from tfr

but albanian

or something

[twin nebula]

emerald storm is actually really easy

[finite plume]

Albania's formable will just be getting Kosovo 🙏

[left jewel]

No like i mean in the timeline of ur mod, at what point does it differ from OTL?

[left jewel]

yeah duh its meant to be

[azure walrus]

no people's overlordship over albania-egypt 😢

[finite plume]

It starts in 2025 but it's kinda wonky

[twin nebula]

I landed at cork and dublin and then just walked into limerick

[finite plume]

Think of a more peaceful era that spirals into greater war

There's no military alliances, no guarantees, etc

[azure walrus]

wait if it starts in 2025, whats the situation with wars that started before

[left jewel]

well yeah the only way to fail emerald storm is by not naval invading

[finite plume]

They use internationally recognized borders

[left jewel]

No no no, hes asking like what happened in the timeline of ur mod for it to get to this point

[azure walrus]

about ukraine, how about the separatist conflict that has been going on since 2014

will it be an on map decision thing

[finite plume]

I'll prob include these

[quiet vessel]

if its 2025 why isnt it volgograd

[finite plume]

Haven't gotten to work on Russia's VP's

[quiet vessel]

fair

[azure walrus]

also capital of lithuania is become vilnius

[left jewel]

ehh and also what paths is germany gonna have? If you dont mind me asking

[finite plume]

I started this mod like a week ago so just bear with me 🙏

[quiet vessel]

one thing that ive learnt in my modding of romania is not a whole lot happened in romania in 1936 it seems

[left jewel]

He probably just hasnt got to work on the vps for those yet, give the man a break

[finite plume]

Probably German Empire, German Reich, HRE, Prussia, EU, etc

[twin nebula]

then why start with philipines vps 😭

[quiet vessel]

then 37 shit just hits the fan

[finite plume]

My homies are from the Philippines 😔 ✌️

[azure walrus]

understandable

[quiet vessel]

priorities duhh

[twin nebula]

you should do ireland

best country

in the world

[quiet vessel]

im more of an east timor guy

[finite plume]

IRA focus tree 🗿

[twin nebula]

you can do an IRA resurgence thing

where they coup and shi

[left jewel]

Though i dont get it, whats the point of making every tiny city visible on the map?

[finite plume]

If there's underdog situations like that then I'll probably try to make it limited wars

So that you aren't forced to cap a major

[quiet vessel]

i hope when each one is captured a global event is fired saying this random village has fallen

[finite plume]

No reason

I just wanted to 🥀

[twin nebula]

have the uk release ulster as like "ulster military zone" as a puppet

and then they can fight them

instead of full uk

[finite plume]

If a puppet is at war it can drag its overlord in I believe

[twin nebula]

oh yeah

shi

[quiet vessel]

u can set rules

or just dont release them as a puppet

[finite plume]

I'll prob do what they did with the Falklands

[quiet vessel]

release them as free in faction

[twin nebula]

then just delete the uk

[finite plume]

Where if you own the land you can ask for a peace deal

[left jewel]

Though if you're playing UK, how do you prevent ulster from getting conquered?

[quiet vessel]

you don't

[finite plume]

Just refuse surrender probably

[left jewel]

im sure whatever trees he gives to the UK will end up with ireland under the UK

deary me i sure hope the USA wont have a CSA larp path

[azure walrus]

defy expectations, give them a communist larp path

[finite plume]

But yeah there'll be stuff like fuel consumption for infra or fossil-fuel power plants so

[restive sable]

asking for too much

[finite plume]

Economy won't be just thrown off to the side

[azure walrus]

ok those probabyl are expectations for a modern day mod but whatvs

[left jewel]

Screw it patriot front coups the US

[finite plume]

🥀

[carmine sinew]

lowkey might be cooked

[finite plume]

Endsieg

[left jewel]

winnable

[restive sable]

us monarchist path

[finite plume]

Just put Steiner in charge

[left jewel]

who would the king be

prince andrew?

[restive sable]

not a single clue

[finite plume]

John

[left jewel]

John America

[restive sable]

can imagine if a US rework ever came macarthur could become dictator/president

[left jewel]

you can already do that

[mystic nest]

How did you achieve this

[restive sable]

yeah but it's pretty weird

[finite plume]

They played historically

Down to the last maneuver

[mystic nest]

If you copied the battleplans the Germans did with no micro you'd still win

[carmine sinew]

everyone started joinin the allies and i wasnt pumping troops that much so they overran me i think

[mystic nest]

He somehow did worse than copy paste the Germans plans

[mystic nest]

What's your inf template

[carmine sinew]

its just the normal german infantry template

[mystic nest]

What is that

I don't play Germany a lot

[left jewel]

18 width inf with supporty arty and cav recon i think

[mystic nest]

Yeah width is fine althought apparently 16 is the defensive meta now

[carmine sinew]

its engi company

[mystic nest]

Cav recon is bad

And use aa

Aa artillery and engineers

All you need for inf defensive

[left jewel]

Ngl I love getting a country in a satisfying shape

like 3rd french empire borders or greater germania or poland lithuania

[mystic nest]

Brazil

Core all of south America

[finite plume]

Same

[mystic nest]

Very satisfying

[finite plume]

That's why I like making custom states follow river borders

Like this

[restive sable]

brazil personally one of my favorite countries to play as

[left jewel]

oh wait i got something similar

[finite plume]

Hungarian nightmare

[mystic nest]

Same

You can run air Brazil and have ten thousand fighters by like 43

Good fighters

[twin nebula]

I just refuse to learn how to use air

[mystic nest]

What

[twin nebula]

I just do navy and land

[mystic nest]

Air is extremely important

[twin nebula]

too many buttons in air

[carmine sinew]

i died

[left jewel]

Dude all you gotta do is have fighters and cas

[twin nebula]

I just get anti-air defenses

[mystic nest]

Navy literally is way more complex than air 😭

[ruby scarab]

How do you know navy but not air

[mystic nest]

Cas is broken

[restive sable]

it starts weak but its pretty easy to build up

[mystic nest]

Use cas

[left jewel]

put fighters on air superiority and cas on close air support its THAT easy man

[mystic nest]

Yeah free annex

[twin nebula]

because I just naval invade across the planet

[restive sable]

good starting manpower always helps too

[mystic nest]

You're missing out on a bajillion cas damage

[restive sable]

democratic brazil my beloved

[mystic nest]

Air is far more important to learn than navy

[left jewel]

Planes help you get naval superiority

[mystic nest]

And non aligned is even better cuz you geet Portugal

[twin nebula]

I know how to make good planes

[mystic nest]

Which gives free entry to europe

Without naval invading

[twin nebula]

machine guns and anti-tank

[mystic nest]

? Just three heavy mgs

Wdym by anti tank

[restive sable]

monarchist is fun too

brazils tree all around is pretty great

[mystic nest]

That's no aligned yea

[left jewel]

Brazil set the gold standard after USSR

[restive sable]

the start is a bit slower tho

[left jewel]

germany is so peak in terms of paths

[twin nebula]

able to do stuff like this perfectly fine

[mystic nest]

Eh you can Annex everythkng by 41

[twin nebula]

no air involved

[mystic nest]

Yes because it's against the ai

[restive sable]

its althist paths are amazing

[twin nebula]

so the ai can't use air either

[mystic nest]

Air lets you get higher than 10:1 casualty ratios pushing with inf

[twin nebula]

I see

[restive sable]

i love the german althist paths

[mystic nest]

They can their air is just bad

[left jewel]

Did you justify and puppet manually?

[mystic nest]

If you run into a player with air you get obliterated

[twin nebula]

no

well for germany yes

[mystic nest]

Air is far more potent than navy

Cas is broken rn

[twin nebula]

the benelux puppets are part of the tree

and rhineland

[left jewel]

Yeah ik but the german puppets

[twin nebula]

the other 2 german puppets besides rhineland

were very weird to get

[left jewel]

How lol

[twin nebula]

sometimes in collapsing wolrd

instead of fully capping

[azure walrus]

by blood alone i have defeated ethiopia

[twin nebula]

they just become your puppet

[left jewel]

Ohh so theres a scripted peace for germany already?

[twin nebula]

der sudbund was the nazis

[twin nebula]

rhineland is scripted

the other 2

are random surrenders

I had no choice

[mystic nest]

Same with Czechoslovakia

[twin nebula]

with what I wanted to do with them

[azure walrus]

just noticed democratic greece

[mystic nest]

I love running dem greece

[twin nebula]

what you mean?

[mystic nest]

Forming Hellas is always nice

[azure walrus]

ussr is going to have a civil war

[mystic nest]

They're programmed to surrender if you do the fate of czech

If Czechs a player they can decline and declare war

[twin nebula]

oh

that's what you're talking about

[mystic nest]

Ye

[azure walrus]

I REALLY hate that nonaligned greece is the only greece that cant form greater greece, but the nonaligned greater greece is called "kingdom of greater greece"

[left jewel]

I tried that, you genuinely have no say

[mystic nest]

What?

[azure walrus]

like screw you paradocks >:$

[twin nebula]

has anyone actually taken the time to get like every single reichskommisariat

[mystic nest]

You can refuse

[left jewel]

You dont get the option though? Idk

[mystic nest]

No they're worse than just annexing

[mystic nest]

Uh I've played czechs like once

[left jewel]

yes, in reichkomissariats plus

[mystic nest]

I'll check again when I get home

[left jewel]

Its a mod that adds reichkomissariats to the entire world

[twin nebula]

cuz the czech tree is ass

[mystic nest]

Yug

Yuh

[twin nebula]

ireland is best tree

[mystic nest]

I'm going to run air Brazil again planning on 20k fighters by 44

[mystic nest]

Nah gotta be brazil

[twin nebula]

I got 10 transport planes as andorra

[mystic nest]

It's so stupidly broken

[twin nebula]

somehow

[mystic nest]

Brazil's basically a major country

Straight up it's broken

[left jewel]

here lol

[mystic nest]

Skull

[twin nebula]

the great andorran paradrops on madrid

they didn't expect a thing

[azure walrus]

what mod is this

[left jewel]

Reichkomissariats Plus

[mystic nest]

France cap speedrun method

I don't usually use paras though

Mountaineers and rangers are just so strong

They're tanks with far less need for supply

[ember vine]

Pov: germany when the japan stupid and the japan philipines

[restive sable]

its so easy to become a major as brazil

[mystic nest]

24 mountaineers can clear out the entirety of Malaya and Borneo

[restive sable]

its nice

[mystic nest]

Yes

Brazil's more of a major than Italy is

Which is hilarious

You can easily get 600 factories by 44 as Brazil without focusing on factories

More than like America

[twin nebula]

can you technically become a major as any nation?

[mystic nest]

Brazil's only limited by the fact it has no aluminium and steel

[mystic nest]

Sorta. But for Brazil it's ridiculously easy

You don't even need an army

To core the entirety of south America

[twin nebula]

damn

[mystic nest]

So you can rush the focus

[restive sable]

its so funny 😭😭😭

[mystic nest]

Without building an army

[ember vine]

Don Duarte Nuno when he annex brazil

[mystic nest]

I haven't tried any mods yet

[twin nebula]

you get the best and worst buffs and debuffs

yeah

I don't punish them for it

[left jewel]

the new california content is also epic

[twin nebula]

I was trying

[mystic nest]

I've never heard of this mod lol

[twin nebula]

but mc arthur always ruins it

[left jewel]

Collapsing world? Its pretty cool

[twin nebula]

like the malaka he is

[left jewel]

im a writer and a playtester for the mod

[twin nebula]

yo wait actually?

[left jewel]

yeah dude

i was doing some stuff for austria communist path

[mystic nest]

I prefer historical mods

[twin nebula]

can you make ireland actually not awful

[left jewel]

its very historical

[mystic nest]

I looked at sheeps and black ice but those are wayyy out of my league

[mystic nest]

Oh

[twin nebula]

it actually makes a ton of sense

[restive sable]

my personal favorite mod is kaiserredux

[twin nebula]

basically like everyone lost wwi

[left jewel]

theres no planned content for ireland i dont think

[twin nebula]

aw man

the ulster thing has so much potential

[strong belfry]

high cortisol level gameplay

[twin nebula]

yo what the frick happened

[mystic nest]

Bump those ratios up

[left jewel]

Dont take my word for it but its not really planned in the next few updates

[twin nebula]

what's planned

for next

[left jewel]

like currently the balkans are being worked on for the next update

[twin nebula]

like greece?

[left jewel]

with croatia, bulgaria, greece, bosnia, serbia and albania getting content

[twin nebula]

yay

[left jewel]

idk about romania

[strong belfry]

i wanted to play comminist hungary then puppeted czeck then germans came and attacked my puppet czecks

[twin nebula]

bulgarian thing kinda sucks rn

you basically have nothing to do besides throw yourself at serbia

[left jewel]

well its skeleton content for now

[mystic nest]

Just hold the mountains mate

Nvm

[left jewel]

They have 15 divs on 1 tile

[mystic nest]

They already pushed past

You can inflict like 20 to 1 ratio casualties on defence

[left jewel]

they'll get paths based on if they win or lose the 3rd balkan war

[strong belfry]

😄

[mystic nest]

If you hold good positions

[twin nebula]

the idea of the century?

[mystic nest]

Starts with no civs

[green lodge]

Yo

[strong belfry]

me?

[twin nebula]

and 22 mils

[mystic nest]

Yes

[mystic nest]

What

[green lodge]

Can I form the European federation as greece ?

[strong belfry]

i hold since 1938 :D. its fun tho i pucketed them 2-3 time

[mystic nest]

Don't think so?

I remember you can form Hellas and uh

The other Greece one

[green lodge]

Yeah byzantian empire was formed

[left jewel]

this historical enough for you?

[mystic nest]

The hell happened to germany

[left jewel]

A lot

[mystic nest]

Yeah but not sure if you can do eu

I know France and Belgium can

[woven gate]

the Baltic Freikorps is hell in this mod

[azure walrus]

i would play ts but i have a mac

when will they fix the bug

[stoic cargo]

Is it true what i just learned? You can take navy in stead of others for your puppets or other nations?! WHAT

[vapid tusk]

Devs i have a bug where France goes communist in historical

[little brook]

Rate my Byzantium first time run

[vapid tusk]

Border gore

[little brook]

Hungary kindly asked for independence

🙁

[vapid tusk]

Kill Tajikistan and Uzbekistan

[little brook]

theyre in NATO

with me

[vapid tusk]

Get nato control

Kick them

Kill them

[little brook]

yes master.

[vapid tusk]

Also the best thing above iran

And Also kill hungary

Also poland

[little brook]

Poland is guranteed by UK

[vapid tusk]

Kill uk

[little brook]

too lazy to naval invade

[vapid tusk]

Paratroop uk

I forgot i had max buffed france in my extended maginot france play

Thats why i killed germany so easily

Am going to max buff France and play with germany them

See ya later

[little brook]

I will kill Lithuania

https://klipy.com/gifs/femboy-lithuania

[strong belfry]

make some puppets dude

[little brook]

why

[strong belfry]

cuz borders looks shit

[little brook]

i have Hungary

https://klipy.com/gifs/hug-spongebob

[strong belfry]

yea but it makes worse

i would puppet germany ukraine and kazaksh

[little brook]

im waiting for countries to ask to make a collab government

[strong belfry]

u can just release as puppet

[little brook]

ill release Germany i suppose

and ethiopia?

[strong belfry]

all non core territorys i think

[little brook]

thats all my population dude

[strong belfry]

too much

kill half of it

now!

[kindred briar]

What does this mean

[little brook]

i suppose it would be nice to half germany in my faction since germany is OP for some reason in my game

[sudden thistle]

you do?

unless ur using some random ahh mod that isnt like vanilla at all, maybe?

[vapid tusk]

I capitulated in 1940

[fair horizon]

means you build stuff faster

[little brook]

how do i set up a collab goverrnment for a puppet

[azure walrus]

how does special forces cap work

(the only special forces i have)

[left tusk]

im doing my first run without like a basic written down guide

im gonna get clobbered 🔥

[azure walrus]

gl hrf

[finite plume]

I finished Philippine's VP's 🙏

Good luck reading most of them

[chilly raven]

I have a feeling this is not recoverable

(I'm Japan)

but just in case I'll ask because people here seem to actually know how the game works

[chilly raven]

any way out of this?