hoi4-general

[mystic nest]

i mean american civs are so bad tha tpeople js make infrastructure right

[heavy vigil]

probably dont do naval thingy

just do HMG

[woven gate]

that's why you spam civs early

[heavy vigil]

i was too lazy to attach the other one from the US

[mystic nest]

civ greed america??

[woven gate]

yeah i know i'm evil

[heavy vigil]

awful civs bad mils

[mystic nest]

ive only seen this stuff in mp games lmao

[heavy vigil]

must be allies

[mystic nest]

🥀

[woven gate]

i call it lore accurate USA

[woven gate]

doesn't matter if i have triple the factories of the whole axis combined

[heavy vigil]

matters if axis mils are 6x better than yours 😭

[mystic nest]

american industry is hella stupid in singeplayer

[quasi shoal]

usa civ greed bro TRUST

civ greed NEVER fails

EVER

[mystic nest]

civs till early 42 ong

[woven gate]

this is true

[quasi shoal]

42?

[young lake]

Does it matter if I use a single engine 4 on the small fighter or does it change like nothing

[quasi shoal]

just never stop making civs

[mystic nest]

💀

[quasi shoal]

🔥

[woven gate]

1000 civ USA

[mystic nest]

just use the best single engine you have

[heavy vigil]

higher engine level is always good

[mystic nest]

on light fighters

[heavy vigil]

but having more engines isnt

it adds a lot of cost

[mystic nest]

dobuel engine terrible

[young lake]

Alrr

[mystic nest]

brazil has a surprisingly strong like

[quasi shoal]

that's what you think...

[mystic nest]

industry

[woven gate]

Germany watching as the US Army just builds 500,000 Railway Guns in Rural France instead of actually fighting

[mystic nest]

without being in danger

[quasi shoal]

cuz you're right

[woven gate]

Brazil's cool i don't have the DLC though

[mystic nest]

on historical everyone basically ignores sotuh america

[young lake]

You think I could beat the British navy? 🥹 ✌️

[woven gate]

i'm broke and in need of a sugar mommy someone hmu

[quasi shoal]

you should be able to push with enough railway guns

[woven gate]

no

[quasi shoal]

[woven gate]

a man can dream

i'm instead making sure that my friend doesn't have nightmares by being in a call with him while he sleeps, sacrificing my own physical health

[young lake]

You know I think I actually have a chance

[woven gate]

until the United States of Brazil joins the Allies

then you know Germany's cooked

[woven gate]

i mean what country are you

[mystic nest]

yeah brazil can easily hit like 600 factories by like 43 or smth

[young lake]

Poland

[young lake]

Nah nah I got this trust

[woven gate]

idk how you guys be getting those many factories

[mystic nest]

you can core the entirety of south and central america + portgual

its stupidly broken

pure diplomacy

no need to make an army

[woven gate]

i don't have the DLC that makes sense

[mystic nest]

then you inavde spain

and suddenly youre bordering germany with like 30 tank divs

[woven gate]

the sleeping giant(s)

[mystic nest]

then you join allies to get rid of the offensive war modifier

and they invite you and you run straight to berlin

its hilarious

[woven gate]

i like having my 40 width Heavy Tanks

[mystic nest]

lol i only make mediums 36w in singeplayer

but i think japan can core all of asia

now

which is also pretty funny

except japan needs to fight

so they cant jsut pump out factories

[woven gate]

as Japan you've gotta make the most of your Factories

as the US it doesn't matter as much

[mystic nest]

playing japan sucks

[woven gate]

i know

i'm trying to build up to being able to play them

[mystic nest]

fiddiling with naval dominance and the invasions is top 10 most soul numbing things in this game

[woven gate]

i'm practicing as 1939 France to numb the pain of endless suffering

[mystic nest]

yess im spending 30 days prep to invade an island that produces nothing that the americans will ignore and invade my mainland directly

woo hoo

japan needs some insane core / mainland defence buffs man

[woven gate]

June 30, 1941
USA lands on Iwo Jima

[mystic nest]

i want invading japan to be a meatgrinder

not smth you do with like 24 divs

[heavy vigil]

it can be

[woven gate]

you know paradox

no Japan update for 7 more years

[mystic nest]

ive never had to use more than 48 divs to cap japan

[mystic nest]

not even an update just hand them some fat core defence and offense buffs

[devout sphinx]

bro STFUUU

i did good

just forgot about coal

i still had a slurpus of everything so it didnt matter

[heavy vigil]

well not against ai

but it could be a meatgrinder

regardless japan is just small

[mystic nest]

yeah im thinking more about sp

[quasi shoal]

no you did NOT bro 😭

[heavy vigil]

compared to like china/ussr/usa etc

[mystic nest]

yes

they cap very fast

[quasi shoal]

you had a deficit of everything bruh 😭 ✌️

[woven gate]

they could make it annoying by making the island crossings even harder

[heavy vigil]

its larger in game than irl

[mystic nest]

all their vps are right next to each other

[mystic nest]

🥀 at least irl it was projected to be this massively costly thing

[devout sphinx]

Ayo caseys here too

El casey is here

[mystic nest]

in game its doable by like end of 41 lol

[heavy vigil]

it wouldnt be if it was a large scale forced attack

[devout sphinx]

Banned

[heavy vigil]

the main issue with hoi4 is supply lines

[quasi shoal]

casey's always here bruh

[mystic nest]

i usually cap them with 24 divs

[quasi shoal]

you're not

[heavy vigil]

its all way too fast to ever get realistic gameplay

[mystic nest]

fair enough

[devout sphinx]

i open ts server once a decade

[mystic nest]

at least i need more than 24 divs to cap like

britain

[heavy vigil]

you dont

tbh

[mystic nest]

i meant like

[devout sphinx]

Casey when do you want your butplug back?

[mystic nest]

relatively easily

[heavy vigil]

if you have air/naval supremacy either or

then 24 divs will do it easily

[mystic nest]

only battleplan wc when

[quasi shoal]

done alr ✌️

[cursive oxide]

Greece with dlc is so pain

[mystic nest]

i dont hav ethe patience for full bp

wc

[mystic nest]

wdym

[woven gate]

Planning Bonus USSR with this

[mystic nest]

greece is quite good

you can easily hold off the germans and italians in the mountain-river defence line

then counterattack

and then form hellas

plenty of cores

[devout sphinx]

How olive feels flaming me but not praising my one shot sov build

[woven gate]

sometimes as Greece i deadass just land in Sicily before the UK launches their 300 doomed to fail ones

[cursive oxide]

Lol ment with out

[fair horizon]

CASEY I NEED HELP

[mystic nest]

oh without

yeah

thats cooked

[devout sphinx]

Is casey famous around these parts?

[fair horizon]

CASEY WHAT DO

[devout sphinx]

why u have jets

[quasi shoal]

no mio?

[fair horizon]

ITS 1959 SHUSH

[devout sphinx]

WHY are you playing in 1959 bro

[fair horizon]

lemme just grab one real quick... oh wait

[woven gate]

MAN DIDN'T YOU HEAR THAT RAPTURE'S HAVING A CIVIL WAR

[quasi shoal]

who are you playing 😭

[vital cove]

the ai just doesn't defend the homeland

[fair horizon]

range mio 😭

[mystic nest]

fair

[heavy vigil]

replace an armor plate with range

youll have the same but less def

[mystic nest]

they have their armies stuck in like vanuatu

defending absolutely nothing

[tulip thorn]

Ts is going to take so long

[heavy vigil]

thatd be impressive tbf

[quasi shoal]

no engine 3, it's ass 😂 🥶

[mystic nest]

pdx needs to make the islands important

in the pacfiic

[devout sphinx]

Havent used a jet in a year in hoi4

[devout sphinx]

there so ass

Why not use heavy fighters atp

[mystic nest]

holy supply

[quasi shoal]

😭

[mystic nest]

one thermonuke on that

[quasi shoal]

*they're

also no

[mystic nest]

and its over

[woven gate]

what is brazil doing bro

[left void]

trotsky

[mystic nest]

thats japan

[mystic nest]

kill

[vital cove]

i love having a million people on 2 square km

[woven gate]

5 brazilian divisions are landing on Iwo Jima

[mystic nest]

💀 insane

[devout sphinx]

Yes they are

IC overload bro

[woven gate]

1 force attack and they just wiped out like the entire japanese army

[quasi shoal]

winning 🤑

[heavy vigil]

29.86 square km actually

[mystic nest]

beautiful

[quasi shoal]

@heavy vigil humble him 🥶

[fair horizon]

chat which major do you hate more, france or russia

[mystic nest]

britain

cuz

[woven gate]

britain

[quasi shoal]

to play or to play against

[mystic nest]

ion like navy

[fair horizon]

i meant russia

not britian

[woven gate]

naval invasion noise

[mystic nest]

to pay or to vs

[woven gate]

i'm still learning to play France

[mystic nest]

play

[fair horizon]

i have to declare war or im stuck at literally zero manpower so

[heavy vigil]

those are both chill

[quasi shoal]

play is russia, against is france

[mystic nest]

oh france is infintiely easier to cap

than ussr

[quasi shoal]

actually nah against is russia too

[mystic nest]

yeah france caps in like

instantly

[tulip thorn]

? Like fighting against or playing as

[fervent minnow]

france is so easy to kill bro what are you saying

[woven gate]

Fall of Paris

[quasi shoal]

I was saying against is france cuz breaching the maginot can be hard depending on the year, and going around requires more dedclarations

[devout sphinx]

Olive when am i getting my butplug back btw?

[tulip thorn]

France is one of my favorite nations to play tbh

[fair horizon]

im australia shush

[fervent minnow]

yeah me too

[vital cove]

20 square km in 1945 actually

[fervent minnow]

france is fun because of the insane defences you can do

[quasi shoal]

no you chud

[left void]

sadly trve...

[vital cove]

it grew since then

[fervent minnow]

stalling the germans until like 1943

[heavy vigil]

oh okay

[quasi shoal]

or you can just beat them

[woven gate]

i'm still REALLY trying to learn to play them in the 1939 start date because i hate myself

[quasi shoal]

in like 39-40

[mystic nest]

eh belgium and netherlands dont bring in much more enemies than jsut declaring on france

[devout sphinx]

So basically just press exist menu and then press new game

[quasi shoal]

yeah but it's tedious

[tulip thorn]

No

[quasi shoal]

also rubber trade if you go for netherlands

[mystic nest]

truth

swap uk out for ger

[quasi shoal]

you're the small dino

[quasi shoal]

that's allies

[mystic nest]

ah

[quasi shoal]

me creeds and chudhopper are the big dinos

[mystic nest]

i thought he was js talkinmg about majors lol

[tulip thorn]

France and Italy are the only "Majors" that I think are fun to play

[devout sphinx]

Bros forgetting his italy

[young lake]

So I found out that I can easily get naval supremecy but I literally cant land on the british isles

[quasi shoal]

bros forgetting HIS italy

[devout sphinx]

losing half your army in north africa WILL be meta btw

[quasi shoal]

181 coal deficit

[tulip thorn]

if you are losing in north africa as italy

skill issue

[devout sphinx]

Didnt lost half my army in north africa tho

[devout sphinx]

in mp not rlly

[quasi shoal]

it's multiplayer and i have ZERO tanks

cuz germany is a CHUD

[tulip thorn]

Oh god

Rip

[devout sphinx]

Deadass was NOT my fault

[quasi shoal]

cuz we actually sent tanks

[woven gate]

it's basically impossible to lose there as long as you build supply

[tulip thorn]

Alt f4

[quasi shoal]

fair tbh

[devout sphinx]

I had like 3 tanks and 3 soon to deploy but tono was on sum ireland invasion bs

[tulip thorn]

I wasnt talking about mp was I

[quasi shoal]

the tanks didn't even go in the invasion too 😭

[quasi shoal]

we were

[devout sphinx]

But we were and u hop into my convo

[quasi shoal]

deadass sitting at the port

[devout sphinx]

@wispy coyote

OMG

THE legend is here

[tulip thorn]

Mb

[quasi shoal]

@eggman

liar...

[tulip thorn]

I couldnt tell that yall were talking about mp at all

[heavy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/solunary-discord-discordian-discordia-neveah-gif-27558501

[devout sphinx]

wanna join a mp server perchance

[quasi shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/solunary-neveah-discordia-discordian-discord-gif-27558502

[quasi shoal]

👀

[tulip thorn]

Idk like, I dont play all that much mp anymore

[young lake]

Tank. How does one actually secure a landing in the uk ;-;
I seem to have forgotten once I have naval supremecy I actually need to be able to yk land

[heavy vigil]

they host at devious times btw

[quasi shoal]

🙏 🤲

[quasi shoal]

nuh uh

[tulip thorn]

Perfect

[quasi shoal]

4:30 mst ✌️

[woven gate]

maybe paradrop as well

[devout sphinx]

r u euro or america

[young lake]

Maaane

[tulip thorn]

America

[quasi shoal]

mst the best time zone btw

[devout sphinx]

then its perfect

for u

[quasi shoal]

it's definitely not devious times

[tulip thorn]

Sad

[quasi shoal]

literally like middle of the afternoon

[tulip thorn]

I love devious times

[woven gate]

i mean you asked

[devout sphinx]

for euros its DEVILISH

[quasi shoal]

we used to go from like 7:30 mst to 2 am

but we decided to push it back so ppl could actually make it

(it didn't work)

[devout sphinx]

Until the king (me) changed it

[quasi shoal]

king chud

[devout sphinx]

did work for 2 games

[tulip thorn]

I love mp games where im losing sleep to play

[fair horizon]

chat i messed up bad

[devout sphinx]

ts weeks game

disgusting

[quasi shoal]

you still will depending on how long it goes

[tulip thorn]

Bet

[quasi shoal]

3 ppl showed up

[heavy vigil]

can we go back to that

[quasi shoal]

and one was cat

[quasi shoal]

prolly tbh

[woven gate]

who are you playing as

and why are your divisions all sharks

[quasi shoal]

possibly the worst germany run i've ever had

embarrassing tbh

[heavy vigil]

im probably awake if you host later lowkey

terrible sleep schedule

[quasi shoal]

same with creeds @devout sphinx 👀

[tulip thorn]

can relate

[devout sphinx]

i think weshould host 2hrs later then the current time were using, what will be the time for u olive

[fair horizon]

i landed on a supply hub and not a port

[quasi shoal]

6:30

pm

[devout sphinx]

alr so this still good

[quasi shoal]

we used to host 3 hrs later than what we do now

[fair horizon]

WELP RIP ALL OF MY MANPOWER

[devout sphinx]

would u prefer 4pm or 6pm

[quasi shoal]

[quasi shoal]

it's on a saturday I do not care

[fair horizon]

i hate this game

[quasi shoal]

6 pm incase I sleep through 4:30

[devout sphinx]

Did bro js say sleep past 4pm

Is bro a bum

[kind reef]

Do I really need to buy any DLCs

[quasi shoal]

yes I did

[viscid stirrup]

No

[devout sphinx]

Bros actually bum maximus

[viscid stirrup]

Stop playing hoi4

[quasi shoal]

it's a saturday bruh

got nun to do

[viscid stirrup]

Start getting jobs

[tulip thorn]

Yo let me in

[devout sphinx]

got us oce waking up at 10am for ts match while bros sleeping at 4pm

Actual BUM

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[fair horizon]

welp i screwed this game

[devout sphinx]

alr

[fair horizon]

industry too garbage to replace divs

no manpower to replace divs

[viscid stirrup]

In my timezone its sunday

[quasi shoal]

I don't usually

[fair horizon]

can they please release the australia dlc before i have an aneurysm

[quasi shoal]

but just incase

[quasi shoal]

they will in Q2 iirc

[viscid stirrup]

Consolidate them

[fair horizon]

THEY'RE SURROUNDED

[viscid stirrup]

Thats geniunely a skill issue

[fair horizon]

I HAVE 50K SPARE MANPOWER BECAUSE MY COUNTRY IS SO CRAP AND THE GAME IS SO BUGGYT

[viscid stirrup]

How do you get surrounded by clankers

[kind reef]

Because like whenever I see a HOI4 video and see a cool feature that I didn't know, it is a DLC feature most of the time

[viscid stirrup]

The dlcs in total cost over 50000 dollars

[kind reef]

But I don't also wanna pay half the price of the game on a DLC that adds something like 3 focus trees for 3 minor nations

[viscid stirrup]

Heres the list of dlcs you need:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

[quasi shoal]

I mean you don't NEED anything hoi4 related

[viscid stirrup]

Exactly

[quasi shoal]

unless food water and shelter are considered hoi4 related

[viscid stirrup]

Get a job, invest the money into the stock market, retire early, and THEN you can get the dlc

These dlcs arent good financial decisions

[quasi shoal]

if I had a job i would not be playing hoi4

[kind reef]

Dat makes sense to me

[quasi shoal]

yo mud check dms

[viscid stirrup]

Unless youre a youtuber

[kind reef]

I just wish my homeland country could have its own focus tree without me needing to buy a DLC 😔

[quasi shoal]

you can always play mods

[viscid stirrup]

It does

[quasi shoal]

anyways be grateful that turkey gets a good dlc focus tree ✌️

america is poverty

[viscid stirrup]

It has the generic focus tree

[kind reef]

true

[viscid stirrup]

TNO is the best mod

[tulip thorn]

First time i've seen someone say anything good about the turkish tree

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/he-made-a-statement-false-gif-13774880078983088301

[viscid stirrup]

EAW is good too

[quasi shoal]

better than american tree

[kind reef]

I mean its own custom focus tree

[tulip thorn]

Old japanese tree was better than american tree 💔

[viscid stirrup]

I used to work

As an actor and model

My mother stole all my money

[quasi shoal]

true

[kind reef]

How is the American focus tree like

[quasi shoal]

boring

you can play it btw

man the guns is free now

[tulip thorn]

Truly terrible and boring

[viscid stirrup]

Luckily i got my money back and invested it into samsung

[quasi shoal]

📉

[viscid stirrup]

Samsung stock tripled in the last year

[quasi shoal]

ik bruh

[tulip thorn]

Should have invested into scam coins

[viscid stirrup]

Geniunely went from 60k to 160k

[quasi shoal]

50k to 180k

[kind reef]

Like what'd you expect from it

[quasi shoal]

not boring

[viscid stirrup]

It actually has

[quasi shoal]

actually have good ahist paths

[viscid stirrup]

Wow

Im so good at predicting the stock markey

[kind reef]

What focus would you want to be added

[quasi shoal]

idk man

i'm not a game designer

also I haven't played the tree in a while

[viscid stirrup]

Tanna tuva, mongolia

They NEED their own dlc

I did a wrld conqurst as tanna tuva

It took SO LONG

I WAS STUCK WITH 900 MANPOWER WEEKLY THE ENTIRE GAME

THOSE SIBERIAN CORES HAVE NEGATIVE MANPOWER

[kind reef]

I was talking about what focus they'd want added to American focus tree

[viscid stirrup]

American focus tree already got a rework

Yall are getting greedy

[atomic grove]

usa ahistorical paths arent that good and have basically near 0 content

a better confederate path would be nice imo

[mystic nest]

its literally like

the stale white bread of focus trees

all the rework did was toast it slightly but not enough for it to be crispy

[trim pike]

Dont say that

[umbral sinew]

no english more!

[ripe slate]

@umbral sinew@fervent minnowThis server is English-only

[umbral sinew]

Sorry 🙁

[heavy vigil]

@ripe slate This server is English-only

[umbral sinew]

AHAHA

[ripe slate]

Because I pinged the name? xD Or because Im not English?

[heavy vigil]

tbh i just wanted to say it

[ripe slate]

[heavy vigil]

marijn what do you think of women

image of women because i assume youre unfamiliar

[ripe slate]

This must be fake

[magic plinth]

@eternal comet

i have successfully saved your disaster save

[atomic coyote]

is this normal

[snow sonnet]

Oh my god. HOI4 has to be one of the most complicated paradox game of all time. I still can't wrap my head around it even after watching a 2 hours tutorial + 5 hours of gameplay. I will never understand people who says EU4 is more complex than HOI4. It's not, HOI4 is 100 times more complex than EU4.

[magic plinth]

i disagree i think eu4 is more complex

hoi4 is best learned by playing and making your own mistakes

also with someone showing you how to play in game

[heavy vigil]

its like 10x easier than hoi3 dw

[snow sonnet]

As someone with almost 4 thousand hours in EU4, I disagree. I can forget everything and still master EU4 within 3 days but I'll never understand HOI4 since imo it has infinitely more mechanics than EU4 does. The warfare system, supply system, logistics, etc.

[heavy vigil]

and thats just the hoi series

[snow sonnet]

Yeah, I've heard about that.

If HOI4 is already extremely complex I can't imagine what HOI3 feels like.

[kind reef]

No Ethiopia?

[inland needle]

I am getting naval invaded by argentina in 44, this game sucks!

[young lake]

After 10 years of war. I am free

Free to leave the game

Because im lwk NOT invading the ussr

Definitely would win

But

I am so tired

And I cant be bothered with the fight in the urals for ussr ;-;

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[young lake]

Campain only took me like 13 hours

🥀

Or something around that

[rich sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1113540697052684358/1301549639618527252/attachment-37.gif

[heavy vigil]

sub in battle

retreating

[past wharf]

Dude, have you figured out how to defeat the United Kingdom? I can invade every country except that one; it's very difficult by naval means.

[toxic cypress]

why does your top ui end

[past wharf]

Could someone help me figure out how to defeat the UK? I usually wage war early and invade France and Poland in 1937.

But I can't overcome the United Kingdom's naval superiority; my ships sink too quickly.

[mystic nest]

Could be an ultrawide screen?

[toxic cypress]

🤷‍♂️

[woven narwhal]

holy stat

[past wharf]

How

[woven narwhal]

superior fire power grand doc

• artil -combat with and large unit tact

[eternal palm]

😭

Sp warrior ass template

[woven narwhal]

its peeak

[orchid lily]

anybody else keeps encountering russians in mp that shut down whole lobbies?

[eternal palm]

It's fking trash ngl

But sure

[eternal palm]

Yes, it's a thing

Don't join public lobbies

[eternal palm]

💀

[fair horizon]

why is poland able to walk into my territory from pakistan?

[eternal palm]

Lmao

[tulip thorn]

itsss peaak

[eternal palm]

This is

[woven narwhal]

how does it even count as mountainer

folk

[eternal palm]

It's pure mountaineer

Wdym

Theres no arty here lmao

[woven narwhal]

5.5k

[eternal palm]

Yep.

It's called stacking

[tulip thorn]

Thats right

[woven narwhal]

seems abit high for pure mountain

[eternal palm]

Lmao

[tulip thorn]

its not

[eternal palm]

Bro doesn't know what planning is

Or what modifiers are

[tulip thorn]

Planning bonus my beloved

[eternal palm]

Man thats cute

[woven narwhal]

son

what in the template is that

landcruiser support

?

[tulip thorn]

Land cruiser would make it worse

Terrain stats

[orchid lily]

well how do i get into mp?

are there some servers that host lobbies?

[eternal palm]

I think this is mostly triple sf doctrine and German stat buffs

Not even planning

[tulip thorn]

There are literally 3 mp channels here

[eternal palm]

Check my server tag

[eternal palm]

Yes but these kinda suck

[tulip thorn]

True

[fair horizon]

excuse me

[eternal palm]

Mil access bs

[fair horizon]

GUYS ITALY BUILT A CARRIER

[patent thistle]

its the aquilla most likely and it sucks

[fair horizon]

good luck bulgaria

[patent thistle]

greenlands fleet after telling the US we are greenland and not american

[fair horizon]

[patent thistle]

(purchased japanese and german ships earlier and the 2 american ships are stolen from the dock of mine they were stationed in)

[fair horizon]

f to our boy crimea they tried

[slim nexus]

for the British mandate of Palestine there should be a focus tree where you are either still a loyal puppet or achieve independence as Israel, Palestine or a united government that would be forced to be divided up or be held together in a fragile balance

but only a small one

[eternal palm]

Mods exist

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon this combination is totally going to go well with eachother

[slim nexus]

I do know that

however I do want French Indochina and Egypt to get their stuff

(the former being a mini-British raj or a Belgian Congo)

[patent thistle]

road to 56 has quite litterally this form of a tree buddy-

[slim nexus]

I definitely know that but the thing with mods is that there are tons of bugs and you constantly have to update them with each passing patch

[tulip thorn]

Tons of bugs?

[eternal palm]

Just. Play the mod?

And then form an opinion

[tulip thorn]

[slim nexus]

I do play it

[eternal palm]

With all the problems I have with road, it's still well made

[tulip thorn]

Very much so

[slim nexus]

though I prefer playing in vanilla

[eternal palm]

So what's the want for a focus tree when you have access to one

[low kiln]

Yo

[tulip thorn]

Hello

[inland falcon]

yes.

[fair horizon]

ive been messing around with heavy cruisers

[inland falcon]

swedish people are just naturally drawn towards nazism

[eternal palm]

💀

[patent thistle]

and how did it go?

[eternal palm]

Meanwhile the very social democratic Sweden:

[fair horizon]

they're alright as screens for caps and do pretty good damage to enemy light cruisers but otherwise eh

[patent thistle]

nah they only are racist to dänish people

[ripe slate]

Yes, actually, that specific leader was an odd fellow

[patent thistle]

thats pretty much how they are meant to be used

[tulip thorn]

Did he make a good steamed ham?

[patent thistle]

whats the worst that can happen?

[ripe slate]

My brother actually does a perfect impersonation of the skinner "Yesss" and it cracks me up every time

[tulip thorn]

lol

[inland falcon]

something something left wing of fascism

[eternal palm]

💀

But also: Server rules my guy

[fair horizon]

i mean im thinking if you had level 4 guns and levels it could probably delete battleships

[kind reef]

Me when the game asks me to declare war on Albania but then Britain guarantees Albania so I start WW2 a few months earlier

[low kiln]

I do not understand this game bro

[kind reef]

Nobody does

[eternal palm]

I do

[fair horizon]

get in line bud

[eternal palm]

It's simple

[patent thistle]

at that point just build battlecruisers

[kind reef]

Oh yeah? Explain navy

[eternal palm]

It's shbb light cruisers and shit dds

Fib grand doctrine

[ember vine]

Navy is gay

[eternal palm]

Ur gay

[ember vine]

This is the explanation

[low kiln]

Where are the other scenarios

[patent thistle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kyoko-linziegifs-kirigirl-mHLPa9voDUl6c3vC40

[low kiln]

just WW2

?

[eternal palm]

💀

Bro wants every pdx game in one

[ember vine]

Use transport planes instead

[eternal palm]

He's playing for 2000 years

[inland falcon]

you'll need mods for other scenarios

[low kiln]

Ooh

[patent thistle]

rise of nations mod with billions of startdates

[eternal palm]

Other pdx games:

[low kiln]

What does DLCs do

[inland falcon]

isn't very fleshed out...

[eternal palm]

Add mechanics

[inland falcon]

content to other nations within the ww2 scenario

[patent thistle]

no shit it has like 20 start dates

[inland falcon]

i'd tell you how much i love CW:IC, but my computer can't run it

[fair horizon]

bearn 😭

[patent thistle]

ah the random ass french carrier

[fair horizon]

be nice to her

its not her fault the french built her

[inland falcon]

communist australia still???

[fair horizon]

im not good at the game

[inland falcon]

they say after dunking on the french navy as communist australia

[fair horizon]

navy isnt hard

[patent thistle]

what do ya say about the greenland ragtag fleet @fair horizon?

[fair horizon]

build your own fleet smh

[inland falcon]

it still requires some level of understanding of how the game works

[patent thistle]

not when i have 1 dockyard

[eternal palm]

In order to play the game you must know how to play the game 🤯

Real groundbreaking stuff

[fair horizon]

i suck at every other portion of the game

[inland falcon]

i went 4 years without understanding the navy, it's not necessary

[fair horizon]

navy though? i am ascended

[eternal palm]

Man is dunking on AI and calls it "ascended"

😭

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/hog-emoji-shock-mindblown-hog-mindblown-gif-8718736871316317867

[fair horizon]

yes

[patent thistle]

fr

dunking on the AI when their fleet is 5 times larger is fun

[fervent minnow]

what is the French Navy doing in Southwest India bruh

[fair horizon]

HAVE AT ME

[fervent minnow]

what are you tryna flex brodie

[fair horizon]

just my cruisers fighting a battleship

[fervent minnow]

i'm so happy the navy got revamped

so much easier now

[fair horizon]

i would be if patrols didnt just stop producing supremacy for literally zero reason

[low kiln]

Why is my game crashint bru

[heavy vigil]

idk why they do that

messed with my naval blockades

said i had supremacy

didnt function blockade wise

[umbral sinew]

Omg

[fair horizon]

spain built a carrier too

[umbral sinew]

second spain republix ?

[fair horizon]

dunno

[umbral sinew]

what

[low kiln]

Omg imma Crash out

[marble patio]

ahhh... that's better.

[fair horizon]

iowa too strong to take

[marble patio]

canada the best country to play because you can lose thousands of kms of land but it's all empty so capitulation is next to impossible

[marble patio]

fr

[patent thistle]

ouch-

(protecting my nordic brothers)

[cursive oxide]

<@&916727971820240976> some 1 help me pls

[patent thistle]

YOU DONT GET TO RUN

[marble patio]

i think my invasion of america prevented ww2

[cursive oxide]

i need some help

[marble patio]

germany and poland worked it out peacefully

because poland joined the allies

danzig for slovakia

[low kiln]

What do i do now😭

[marble patio]

what am i even looking at bro

[umbral sinew]

attack france

[patent thistle]

I THINK that says it all-

[cursive oxide]

pls im stuck rn

[low kiln]

I still cant declare war

Wth is justification

[umbral sinew]

YESSSSSSSS

but %-80 civilan factory

[low kiln]

I still cant declare war on France

[cursive oxide]

Can I get some help pls ???

[pliant haven]

GUYS IT’S FINALLY HAPPENING

I’M WINNING MY HOI4 GAME

[snow rain]

pause the game, adress the popups at the top

[snow rain]

wait for the war goal

but why are you justifying ???

[cursive oxide]

Hello

[snow rain]

what's your issue ? and no, I won't vc

[cursive oxide]

If I have military exces with Italy and my army is on there city's if war happened do the cap ?

[snow rain]

no, that was fixed in a recent update

you also can't declare war directly on someone you have troops in, except if you declare on their allies and they join, but at that point, all troops in their territory is TPed to your capital

[cursive oxide]

What if there the wanes delcering war ?

[kind reef]

How do I prevent Britain guaranting the independence of Albania

[snow rain]

read above

[snow rain]

don't generate too much tension so that they can't and don't have reason to

also, why would you justify on albania in the first place ?

[low kiln]

omg why is this game so boring bru

its so slow

[snow rain]

bumb up the speed ??

[kind reef]

Because uhhh the Duce said so

[snow rain]

but you should have plenty to do, especially since you do not seem to adress any info the game sends you in that screenshot #hoi4-general message

[snow rain]

you have a focus for it

[kind reef]

oh

So wait I don't need to justify war against them?

[snow rain]

no

[low kiln]

My game is lagging so bad

[snow rain]

all historical annexations have focus/decisions linked to them. You basically never have to justify except for world conquests

[snow rain]

then reduce speed

if you can't run the game early on, it will be an issue since lag will gradually grow and will basically be permanent in 1944

[leaden elk]

what dlcs do I need for Road to 56?

[snow rain]

none

it's in the mod's decription

[leaden elk]

my game crashes when i start it though

and chat gpt told me its cause of the dlc

[snow rain]

chatgpt isn't good at troubleshooting

when does it crash exactly ?

[leaden elk]

right when i load into the country

[fair horizon]

i lose this btw

somehow

[heavy vigil]

this is funny

[heavy vigil]

because it tells you that because its the most common cause of crashing around update releases because mods arent updated

[leaden elk]

anyone know how to fix it?

[heavy vigil]

it is NOT the most common at any other time

[snow rain]

you sure you only have RT56 enabled as a mod ?

[leaden elk]

yes

its my first mod i downloaded

[snow rain]

and that you have the right version of it ?

[leaden elk]

and the only one

[heavy vigil]

and mods like road even update in advance pretty often

[leaden elk]

how do i check the version?

i just subscribed to it today

[heavy vigil]

does it say map issue or otherwise

[leaden elk]

there is just a crash report saying something went wrong

[snow rain]

open the workshop page and verify that it's the right rt56 that you downloaded. Must be this one https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=820260968

[leaden elk]

ok thanks ill try that

[green lodge]

chat

how do i deal with the EEE as greece ?

friend em or nah ?

[snow rain]

EEE ?

[green lodge]

uh fascists, something changes when the Heraklion convention is called

[leaden elk]

its supposed to be called road to 56 expanded, right?

[eternal palm]

Befriend every faction that you can

[eternal palm]

Uh no it's just called "The Road to 56"

[green lodge]

what's the heraklion convention anyway ?

[snow rain]

no, simply "the road to 56"

[fair horizon]

one of my armies just dissapeared

i hate this game

[snow rain]

it's the most subscribed mod on the workshp

[leaden elk]

ok then i probably have the wrong one

[eternal palm]

That's for the megali idea and byzantium

[green lodge]

yeah i want that

[eternal palm]

So if u wanna do Byzantium u just do everything they want and you flip via event

[green lodge]

I'm doing Byzantium

[eternal palm]

Yea then flip fascist lmao

[green lodge]

Ah i cooperate with them

[fair horizon]

WHEN DID IT DIE

[green lodge]

I was supposed to flip ??
I've been resisting them all this time ?

[fair horizon]

APPARENTLY MECHANIZED DOESNT WORK AT ALL FOR DEFENSE

[eternal palm]

.....

[green lodge]

I'll just restart to get more fascists support ig

[snow rain]

that mod requires the base RT56 mod first, it's even shown as requirement on the right of the page

see? chatgpt is bad at troubleshooting, don't use it for that

[eternal palm]

Wdym? It does

[snow rain]

uh?

[green lodge]

Has the highest health

[fair horizon]

tell that to my 24 divs that just went poof

[snow rain]

most HP, most defence

[green lodge]

Encircling is a skill issue my g

[fair horizon]

holding the line in korea and then boom gone

[snow rain]

encircled ? strenght deleted ?

[leaden elk]

yeah thanks, I know chat gpt is stupid but I didnt know there are so many people in the discord ready to help

[eternal palm]

Yea and how did that happen lol

Don't tell me u got cased to death and you didn't have aa or smth

[fair horizon]

nope

[eternal palm]

So how

[snow rain]

there's also a subreddit with loads of issues and there's basically a specific discord for every big mod

[fair horizon]

no clue

[eternal palm]

No im asking what exactly happened

Where did they die

[fair horizon]

i have zero clue

[eternal palm]

What's the template

[fair horizon]

they were holding the line in korea

and then just gone

[eternal palm]

..... So you don't even know where your mech went

[snow rain]

my guess is, you didn't look, got memed because bad template or no fuel or something and then realized when the army was gone

[eternal palm]

Hmmmmm

[eternal palm]

Lots of things

[fair horizon]

i know its dead

[eternal palm]

No fking surprise

Holy shit this is bad

[patent thistle]

i am carrying the war on sea-

[snow rain]

WHYYYYY
why the heavy flame tank ?????

[fair horizon]

cause i have a billion of them?

[eternal palm]

35 Org 😭

[fair horizon]

WHY USE SOMETHING THAT MAKE DIV DO DAMAGE

[ivory hull]

why is there anti tank

[snow rain]

I mean I understand when people use light because it's cheaper but heavies ??? it cost more for less buffs ???

[snow rain]

it's ass

[eternal palm]

It's not meant for that though

It's better inf

Good for holding

It's like if u add arty to inf

It's shit

Don't use it

Also it's too small

[fair horizon]

not the mech

[patent thistle]

why anti tank-?

[eternal palm]

Has to be 36w

[snow rain]

to be fair, that's an alright battleplan div against AI if it's 1943 or earlier

[fair horizon]

ive literally never had an army go poof

like this one did

and i usually do 9 mech

[snow rain]

but there's nso much wrong in it

[eternal palm]

I mean u have no signals

So u probably got memed

[fair horizon]

i dont give a crap

[eternal palm]

Well then don't gotta be surprised when an entire army dies lmao

[fair horizon]

holy crap creep im arguing with 9 people right now

not every message is directed at you

[eternal palm]

"I don't care" asks where his army went

[fair horizon]

you're the one giving me good information tbh

[eternal palm]

That's you rn

[fair horizon]

nvm

[eternal palm]

Then reply correctly I can't read minds

Anyway, theres still a lot wrong with this

Not surprised that it got memed

[fair horizon]

not even worth asking in here because of the mp elitists

[eternal palm]

Support companies are mostly fine, I'd swap the flame tanks for signals

That's mostly it

[eternal palm]

My brother in christ, you were wondering where your army went

And when we tell u, u go "nah ur stupid"

Man

[patent thistle]

the german navy is just GONE- they started with like +200 ships-

[leaden elk]

I downloaded road to 56, but it isnt showing up in the paradox launcher for some reason

[fair horizon]

did you add it to a playset?

[leaden elk]

it doesnt show up

when I try to

[patent thistle]

while my navy is repairing i decided to move a small task force towards the north sea so germany cant use the french fleet to still land in norway

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon do you approve of akagi being the lead ship of this operation?

[patent thistle]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD UK I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT YOU THIS TIME HERE

I AM ONLY HERE TO PROTECT NORWAY

[grand bear]

i dont have this button.. also tried shift alt and S

[patent thistle]

i swear the UK needs some help with the north africa theater, because for some god dam reason italy somehow always is able to completely obliterate the north africa front

[eternal palm]

It's Windows shift S

[grand bear]

✌️gg

[eternal palm]

Not alt

[eternal palm]

Insane user name BTW 💀

Ich hab son großen yarak

[grand bear]

deutscher hartz 4 spieler🔥🔥❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[eternal palm]

Hartz IV 🙏

Auch Arbeitslosengeld II

[grand bear]

beschde wo gibt

[eternal palm]

Tell me about it

[grand bear]

so viel geld habe auch alle DLCs

[grand bear]

YOOOOOOOOOO 6K oida da muss ich lachen

[eternal palm]

Why

[grand bear]

woman in a high castle achievment❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[eternal palm]

Do with Eva Braun if you have balls

I did with Victoria

[still loom]

Hoi4 god

What's your wisdom?

[eternal palm]

Hoi is easy if you are willing to learn and not give into your pride or want for historical larp

Too many people think they are good and then I tell them how they can get better and they get into their feelings

[snow rain]

now that's an impressive naval battle screenshot !

[still loom]

Noted

[ivory hull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256683504746369075/1263582822434865284/togif.gif

[eternal palm]

What?

[grand bear]

thanks bro

[ivory hull]

larp is the most important part of hoi4

[patent thistle]

can this be constituted as bullying?

[eternal palm]

It's the most stupid one

[snow rain]

UK ai is coded to refrain from sending too many divs there or they'd kill italy too fast iirc

[grand bear]

GREENLAND????????????!?!?

[ivory hull]

what would be the reason to play this game if not for larp?

[kind reef]

Should I release Albania as puppet state

[snow rain]

why?

that's the real question

is there an objective you achieve by releasing them ?

[wary cloud]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[kind reef]

Lowkey just asking this because the game has a decision to do so

[snow rain]

if that's a collab governement decision DO NOT
instead make garrison civilian oversight or, better if you can local autonomy

[kind reef]

I thought maybe if they are in the Axis, their forces will take some weight from my shoulders

[snow rain]

what forces lmao

you're talking about albania

and no, never count on AI divs

[kind reef]

I see

Alr then they'll stay anexxed

[patent thistle]

yes-

[grand bear]

deutsch?

[patent thistle]

still, i dont think they should be loosing all up to palestine

[fair horizon]

Yeah after losing that army im done playing this game

[patent thistle]

ja

[grand bear]

stark

[fair horizon]

Buggy mess 90% of the time

[snow rain]

that's a side effect, but you're right

[fair horizon]

Someone ping me when they fix the naval bug and the world tension bug so i can actually play the game as a minor

[patent thistle]

bug

[patent thistle]

see what i meant? it has gotten to the point of germany being able to launch a naval invasion into syria

[nocturne cedar]

is this a good design for shredding the enemy's troops?

[patent thistle]

because the british dont commit shit

they cant even win against italian east africa

[snow rain]

ts won't shred anything

[nocturne cedar]

it is lol

[snow rain]

not because it's good

[nocturne cedar]

it constatly shreds 2-5 infantry

[heavy vigil]

@fair horizon i just found something that might annoy you

the indonesian/malaysian formable thing cores christmas island and the cocos islands but australia can only do it if the uk decolonizes despite owning it irl

[vital cove]

unless eaw significantly changes game mechanics this is awful

[patent thistle]

kind of the same logic as portugal-brazil never being able to core uruguay dispide the brazilian empire owning it once

[quaint girder]

eaw is a mod right?

[quaint girder]

It can core it though

You just have to go all the way to the very bottom of the tree for the south american union

Yes, the bottom

[patent thistle]

not if you do it through portugal

[quaint girder]

Oh via portugal

[heavy vigil]

i dont think portugal had that

[quaint girder]

I know brazil does

[patent thistle]

it did when brazil was still part of portugal and semi independent from what i know

[quaint girder]

Honestly I would change a lot of how I played monarchist brazil

Being better at hoi4 now

[patent thistle]

they got it in 1821 while independence was gained from brazil in 1822 so for a brief bit when portugal-brazil irl was a thing they did own it

decided to put the 2 heavy cruisers i had to good use with convoy raidin

vichy tried

their aint no way that the devs of the mosquito fleet mod actually cared enough to add these- (new game cause i saw polish capital ships in a battle and wanted to actually check-)

[sharp sierra]

can it go on d river doe

[mellow parrot]

why

lol

I fought this war on the mainalnd, not the U.S.

[oak mantle]

Do generals traits still apply to the divisions in their army even if its overstacked? I understand their attack bonuses and everything else is debuffed proportionally to how many extra divs are in the army but what about their traits

[coral gorge]

the era has changed

[coral gorge]

all modifiers are reduced in the same manner

[ember vine]

When ireland dlc

It has such a potential

[oak mantle]

Me when i lie

[ember vine]

What

[worn cliff]

anyone ever tried light SPGs?

[oak mantle]

An ireland focus tree would just be retake northern ireland or join the allies

[worn cliff]

are they worth it since theyre so much cheaper

[ember vine]

Dude

Ireland could claim to be a celtic empire

Core france, UK, northern spain, Switzerland etc

[oak mantle]

Unless they make it some ask for land bullshit it would be total cancer to do that

[ember vine]

Celtic history is deep

[ember vine]

They could try to wake a rebellion in Scotland and Wales

Then place an ultimatum to France for Bretanne

[oak mantle]

Ah yes i love when a tiny minor nation is able to send an "ultimatum" to france when realistically that would never happen

[ember vine]

Make an alliance with switzerland after influencing their politics

[opal nymph]

Irish historical

Uh, we are in the Emergency... we going to stay out of it...

Peak content

[ember vine]

Or at least buy it

[opal nymph]

Or you go to war with major powers as a small island

With a neighbor with one of the most powerful navies

[oak mantle]

Literally

[ember vine]

Austria was knocked out in WW1 and I easily made it a massive empire

Why can't ireland be one

[opal nymph]

To be fair, I have played Ireland after setting UK to go monarchist and I just held out in perpetuity

[opal nymph]

You have no industry
You have no navy
You are an island
Your neighbor owns an entire world spanning empire

[oak mantle]

The point isnt about how easy it is to beat the hoi4 ai it is to look at it from a power stand point because if the AI was as good as you or even better in some scenarios then ireland would just be total slop and youd never be able to do anything

[ember vine]

Just because gameplay would be a pain in the ass doesn't mean that it would suck to have a dlc

[oak mantle]

You could realistically use that to justify a luxembourg dlc because the ai sucks and you can easily beat them and form an empire

[opal nymph]

Danzig DLC

Make them playable at game start

[ember vine]

Ireland is literally a historically rich nation

[opal nymph]

Does it have manpower?

[oak mantle]

Nobodys denying that but it has 0 room for expansion

[opal nymph]

Does it have industry?

[oak mantle]

Mongolia is historically rich too

[opal nymph]

Ireland is in a worse position than the GoE nations

And people hated the GoE nations

[ember vine]

Ireland can ally with Germany tho

[opal nymph]

It would be nice for flavor

[ember vine]

It does asf

[opal nymph]

Then what

[ember vine]

Help them take UK

[opal nymph]

You take Northern Ireland

You then get convoy raided to death

So you cant assist in barb

[oak mantle]

Yeah because the UK would be shivering in their boots because of ireland joining the axis and you possibly taking northern ireland?..

Not mentioning the convoy raiding

[opal nymph]

Literally Irish gameplay is taking northern Ireland and being in a permanent war

[oak mantle]

I dont think a germany player would risk tanks fore northern ireland

[opal nymph]

Or a white peace mechanic

If they choose that

Or you pull a Switzerland and just play in the decision screen all game

Unironically playing historical Switzerland wasn't boring

[worn cliff]

is it a net negative to have too much tank divisions at once?

[opal nymph]

Why

Maybe harder to control

[worn cliff]

because when attacking the tank loss due to low reliability might be too high