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Russian Ai truly amazes me
I death charge and rack up casualties but like
Im not THAT bad
6% for 2.3M deaths
When I first started playing I had the AMAZING run as Russia ๐ฅน โ๏ธ
Lwk not even that many deaths frrr
Very accurate russia
Nowadays I never really get more casualties than 1m
Also used to always have the issue of I just didnt want to actually use my generals properly xd
so this is something ive learned if anyone plans on building carriers. level 2 engine basic carrier with 60 slots is cheaper to build than a 60 slot engine 1 converted battleship
I micro so much
Converted is bad anyway
well it was my go to for a while tbh
cheaper and better
Trying to build and keep supply good on the chinese border is so annoying
good to know
My issue is that Ill have a good defence then completely decimate my population on the attack
xd
i usually just stuck to converted cruisers
lol
Even with good air cover, I almost never push with infantry
I just hope for the best with no airforce and no anti air
And its worked so far
its basically all some content creators do (feedback)
Human wave tactics 
Its rlly going well as poland
I lwk always loved this screenshot
God bless roosevelt for letting me buy weapons
Lmao
war profiteering just took a whole new meaning
Anyway
Do you think my 5 tanks will make it
I am going to be VERY suprised if the tanks make it across the infested waters
what no surface fleet does to a minor
See I could get my mediocre fleet to try help them
But I think its funny not to
If they die there traitors
If they make it then good for them
Get to work
cute baby planes and their mothers
Polish moment
I think I found a bug
Could revolutionize the way the game is played I cant lie
Once I stop death charges and actually micro manage. I dont lose millions of people and I actually make meaningful pushes?
Crazy
I had 1.2 million guns at one point
I keep lend leasing alot of my old stuff to russia
Ive given a million guns to russia ;-;
Battleplanning is a bell curve.
If you dont have good templates or do it in a bad situation, you get rolled. Micro is great, but takes brainpower to do. If you get good templates and have air superiority, battleplanning is viable
So far Ive given russia 10k artillery, 10k support equipment and a million guns and they have made 1k divs and done 1/10th of the work in this war ๐ฅน โ๏ธ
Under certain circumstances
Yeah im more of a "Charge at the enemy with no tanks or air support and try not to die" Kinda person
I wish my russia would stop constantly attacking the really thick lines in china
its fine
Battles of the Isonzo moment
They dont need equipment
It really does get you somewhere when you actually target supply hubs
One of russias divs has super heavies ๐
Ive dealt 3M American casualties whilst only taking around 100k myself
Huh
Maybe not death charging gets me somewhere
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Ain't no way
How tf do my infantry have so much soft attack lmaoo
Ik I was being sarcastic earlier
But I am genuinely surprised how well micro managing my front is going
Like I just keep killing hundereds of thousands of American divs and only lost like 20k mp
you can beat me on land and in the air but you cant beat me on the sea
Yeah but I genuinely dont understand why its working so well. I dont have air support at all and America has 3x my divs
And I just melt there tanks with my infantry
xd
Even when I have no supply and there sitting on a supply hub with tanks I just melt them with infantry
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Ive killed 5M of them whilst losing 3M. Isnt rlly great but its definitely better than trading 1:1 like I was before
lol
Peak ai behavior
You know you are doing good when 70% of your army is lend leased equipment from your allies
Ok my tanks are REALLY bad
lemme see
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TO BE FAIR
They do have fuel
Even with no supply
Meaning somehow its not my fault fr
Almost had a heart attack ;-;
They have stock piled fuel
Uk declared war on communist china
And I was REALLY worried we would have to fight the uk
When I cant handle any more fronts
But communist china declared war on ussr
So uk might even be our ally
Can i have advice for japan (specifically communist japan(
mid stat
Indeed
chat subs are terrible and i hate them
7 of these couldnt kill more than 16 convoys out of 40
when you drain it by sitting in florida for a while
Like cmon vro how is this game telling me they still have 1M spare manpower and are only on mandatory service ;-;
considering they have like 125m core pop and can raise nearly 30% of that
you'll functionally never manage it
playing the manpower game doesn't work against majors, just destroy their units and take VPs
like try to remember which game this is
Ok but it gets insanely easier
yes it does
When they have no man power
Also when I invaded china I made them run out of manpower so not true :p
china has the army corruption debuff and is seriously hamstrung until like 1940. AI is also ass so...
Im going back to death charging. I HIGHLY doubt Usa has ANY stockpiles or any hope of equiping all of its divs
Yeah they dont
They have literally NOTHING
10mil is light work for the us lol
Vro im on all adults serve
I need them to have like atleast a LITTLE hit to their manpower pool
no
china can take like was it
50mil?
casualties?
So theyre not even on scraping the barrel yet man
Nope ;-;
so they've lost 10m and are mobilised up to around 13m
You need tanks if you want to even hope to drain their mp in an offensive war
Do they have texas?
Oil doesnt matter if theyre defending anyway
Its done vro
There tanks aint gonna do shi
therres 2 states of japan
betting this is a supply issue
Nope
He has no tanks and no good air
More of Im still fighting an army with entrenchment and double the size of mine
The tanks dont need fuel if theyre just defending
Fuel isnt that important
eh, they can be taken without either.
He's out of manpower
JUST LET ME HAVE SOMETHING ๐ญ
well rip
Nuh
Aren't you on barrel?
I have 1M manpower
And im on all adults serve
I was smort with my manpower
And saved myself
Whilst killing 3M americans
What % mobilised already
What are your casualty ratios
how much did you lose to kill 3mil
Dude
HEAR ME OUT OKAY
I lost 2M from death charges before I became smart alrigt
Also the uk joined the us
So im so happy
:)
you can death charge with 18w infantry and still hit 1:10 ratios..? what is your template
I dont have any aa vro
especialyl if your air force isnt dominant support aa on infantry is basicalyl a must
Im not a nerd
what..
What airforce LMAO
if you dont have an airforce you especially need aa
since it also gives nice soft atk bonuses
but you have 150 factories on ifnantry equipment?
divert them to aa man
you have the industry to do it
why do you have a 1.3mil stockpile
chat ive turned russia into a great naval power
but no tanks and aircraft
i blew up their enemy fleets and now they're one of the top dogs
2 battleships??
im australia
no i just blew up the rest of the world's navies
Nahh
if you dont even negate it youre gonna suffer
6.5mil to 3mil against the ai..
As poland
you really shouldnt be losing 6.5mil against one country as poland
theyre not russia or china
i mean russia or china can take the losses?
And 20k planes
o
Boooring
you can cap 6mil america in the field with like sub 400k
I like my hope for the best strategy
?????
is it not more boring to sit there and move like
one tile per week
it should be all green man..
red bubble = massive problem
against ai
Red bubble = more men required
Ong
trust trust
which one are you
eighteen million?????
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i dont think ive hit 18 million casualties total since starting the game man
I was still on 6M spare manpower and only extensive conscription
yeah we win those
It was going well trust
having russia cored i assume is bailing you out
cuz aint no way poland can eat those losses
Yuh
Ive taken like 10M losses this game ๐ญ
And I still have man power
but as a general rule against the ai your casualties should be 1:20 on defence and 1:10 on an aggressive offence
big ez
if youre good at defending you can make it 1:200 ratios man
hii vendrip
hi casey
why does the ai send out fleets of just dds
does anyone else notice that
round 2
My thing is if im having fun I lwk dont care about how many casualties I take
they didnt, i took the port
fair enough i guess..
ah ight
who needs a battleline?!?!?!
Im having alot more fun managing a conscription crisis then I would have had if I didnt have manpower problems
but youre in ask for help
if you want to live clueless than dont ask for help
Nah
i suggested for you to add aa to your template though
erm nuh uh
wait this is gen chat im dumb
i cant read

naw he was in ask for h elp too
they all ded
rip
I had a really good reason for saying no okay
bro
wait im genuinely confused
you dont have tanks planes or aa or artillery researched
what did you spend your research on
4 years ahead nukes
what year is it
where is your research
1947...
46 47
even without rushing
erm what about night vision
you should be able to max those out too by 47 alonmg with at leat planes or tanks
44 then
its just 500 days
yeah but I wanna see if he did rockets
nah no way
he didnt make an air force mate
I hope not โ๏ธ
genuinely what did you spend your research on???
lemme see tanks and planes
my question brother ๐ญ
I could not tell you vro
I started researching tanks like 2 years ago

mf has maxed ship tree prolly ๐ญ โ๏ธ
the admiral guy would be proud if he did ๐ฅ
I just stole my japanese puppets planes
what is their template
but are they good planes
cas/fighter multirole ong
xd
they're heavy fighters, which can be good but only depending on where

Whats a navy vro
Lmaoo
no sub 3s just end the game atp ๐
sub spam!!
sub 3s my goat ๐คค
yeah always use anti air
HEY I dont need a good navy I just need alot of subs
like always
anti air is basically non negotiable unless if your air force is literally mopping the ground with theirs
not ALWAYS
even then id use it for the soft attack
but 90% of the time
I landed in Japan against Us and Japanese boats with 1936 subs
vast majority of the time
ESPECIALLY
WITHOUT and airforce
if you dont have an airforce it becomes nearly 100% of the time
or without a good airforce
only time it's not if you don't have an airforce is if you literally can't muster the mils to make AA
like its stupid how strong it is
yeah if youre playing as like lebanon
lmao
I mean I do an airforce KINDA
if you had an air force
u wouldnt have 2:1 casualties
not a big enough one to not have AA
agains the ai
wait who is he even playing
I didnt launch it xd
hes playing russia
so he can take the casulties

but going 6.5mil to 3mil (ai) is crazy
jesus christ
yeah but the mp is coming from russia
poland doesnt have allat
poland cannot take 18mil casualties
Russia refuses to give me shit vro
then your mp is coming from other cores
cuz 18mil casualties and only on like aas or service by req isnt vanilla poland gameplay
We ballin
ah and desperat defense
Ive only took like 10M casualties vro fym
why are you running desperate defense
I ran out of manpower

i thouight it said 17.76?
Thats a previous game genius
2:1 trades against the ai
but
you sent it to me
how was i meant to know
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18mil mp losses??
The might femboy empire ๐ฅน โ๏ธ
no aa no air no tanks no support aa
he didnt
he just
rushes in
or battleplan with infblocks and no guns
and no air
no tanks
no AA
but even battleplanning gives like 1:7 casualty ratios
I just charged into lines for like 2 hours in africa with NO supply, no air, no tanks, no anything
yeah probably cuz no air no aa
how are you the femboy empire??? ๐ญ
Mod
we got marshal zhukov back in the flesh..
when I go into africa, if I don't instantly take all of it, I retreat fully
africa is useless anyway
compared to how much you have to expend to capture it
only reason I take it is for hype moments and aura
It was when I first started playing ok
and while i'm prepping for sealion
Im not THAT bad anymore
Hey leave me alone vro
how did you even get 3 million losses
but u were in ask for help man..
no support aa no air force no tanks bad doctrines probably
I bashed heads against american mountains and tanks for an hour
lemme see them templates
mountaineers exist
I did that as germany
with ONLY motorized
no air
hes going 9/1 with engi and support artillery
and I still only had 1.5 mil
no aa
by the end of the whole war
ive had one game wehre i got above 1mil casualties and that was a wc
well not full
the motorized inf game was back when I was shitty and I wanted to make a fast build cuz it'd be funny asl
Hey im not all bad. Look at my austria campain
highkey it worked really well everywhere until I got stuck in canada
land captured doesnt mean anything though
actually cooked ๐ฅ
what was your casualty ratio
Yuh huh
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
We dont talk about that
91k manpower
we love canadian supply
with allat
I forgot about supply at the time so I just slammed into the american wall until it broke
at least build anti air
itll save you so much mp equipment time
like for you theres literally no downside to aa
why would you use volunteer divs
So my casualties are actualy really good
Because I CAN
why do you only have 300k mp total
I didnt have cores on Germany at that point
1.2mil polish casualties??
Not on all of Germany anyway

Anyway this is what happened when I stop using bad volunteer divs
I wouldnt even call them volunteers
I just demanded them,
what
dude
dude what are these ratios
xd
I HAVE A GOOD REASON TRUST
starting airplanes
i had better ratios
no AA
and battleplanning
Listen to my reasoning okay
I don't think i've ever had above 3 mil causualties even when I got 72 divisions encircled ๐ญ
multiplayer btw so it's only 80% my fault
i got 48 divs encircled and had sub a mill casualties before wiping out europe
Japan took all the supply hubs in siberia then pushed to the mountains and I had to single handedly push with no supply all the way back to Korea
what
So not my fault trust
Boooring
but like
still tho
if you dont want to play the game
if there's no supply hubs, pull back
optimally
(I dont know how supply hubs work)
why are you even asking for help man
if we give advice and then you ignore it we cant really do anything
Im gonna take all this advice btw
Im just saying I wont
Cus its funny
ah
fair enough then
yeah air is important
air is super super important
cas can sometimes do more enemy casualties than your army
use the f4 map
honestly just always have the f4 map open when fighting
which one is the f4 map
the f1 map is less useful than the f4 map when in battle

supply map
yes
unless you actually prep your supply right ๐
the f1 map doesnt tell you anything except terrain and even then you have to click to actualyl see
what terrain it is
I dont know how to actually build a good supply network so I just always focus on pushing supply hubs when fighting
we love the advancing through the ussr on the same path every time
(they only have like 2 lines of supply hubs)
yeah that works for most cases
but its simple to build
build a supply hub
connect it to one that has connections with railways
queue bottleneck upgrades and profit
Can I kick allied planes out my airports?
^^^^^^^^^^^
I think?
somewhere in the many buttons
yes
remove airbase accesss
from that country
its in the tab with the othr diplomatic decisions
like military access and allat
Airbase access isnt a thing cuh
ur cooked lowk just either
it's somewhere in the top right is all I know
FUH nah
I am
Dang
Howw

ts with only 12 damaged.โ๏ธ
dayum
navymaxxing
i should just give up on navy and start sub spammiung
ive been considering it
going to the dark side
light cruiser spam:
sub spam is only fun on casual multiplayer when british don't know how to counter sub 3s
I wanna do gun 3s
no dont just use naval bombers with only torpedos/bombs
On lcs
i do that too if im not even bothered to build dockyards
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if theres a mp british player that cant navy the allies are already doomed
can't navy vs. can't counter sub 3s is different
fair enough
you counter sub 3s by making naval bombers or torpedo destroyers
you navy by spamming light cruisers ๐ฅ
true
Yo my planes might be ASS
Lmaoo
17-1??
sub 3s are genuinely my goat when I sunk 800 of the british convoys
2:1 NUMERICAL SUPERIORITY TOO
sometimes i do it but ykyk just some 1k bait destroyers and some heavy ships or subs and naval bombers
they only had like 1100
I actually dont know how
yeah theyre cooked
britain has to import like everything except steel
I also cut off all trade they had with the outside world
how are you
yeah they were crippled
they also don't have to import coal btw
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Idk vro
oh yeah but we all hate coal
forgot it ws a resources
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but rubber and aluminum theyre baked
no air force for them
@devout sphinx -181 coal deficit
brazil 600 factories gameplay
just AA max
they were italy
and it was '42 ๐ญ
or 41 idr
182 deficit in 42 is insane
Yooo where tf did this come from
no d-day for them if they dont have an air force
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annexed probably
annexing still takes it
iirc
like even without puppets
Im really making alot onggggg
nbone
none
.
wheres your steel
as brazil you actually need so much steel man
dude
Shhhh
I had like 150 mills on tanks and guns ;-;
no sub 3s your build is cooked!!!!!
i had to import like 600 steel
hes playing sp its allg
the ai navy might as well not exist
how play japan as right communist
Time to try out my new planes
that's why the exclamation marks
Any guesses on how its gonna go?
you're not gonna have enough
200 fighters are enough ong
lol fair
200 fighters in 47
luxemborg no expansion numbers
Well dang
I have like 2k
31.4k planes high estimate mate ๐ญ
whats the best thing to do for spotters

Fr
not even
dw dw they probably suck
luxembourg still g ets more I think
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just build a mothership
DEFINITELY they all suck
still dek how to get those ๐ญ
he hasnt even researched flame tnaks
mothership is low on hsi priority of speical projects
nuh uh
he got advanced flamethrowers
special proj
Yoooo im not losing completely!!!
I saw
lol i never use them so iforgot too
cuz they have 700 bombers and 200 fighters
i only make jet engines / axial jet engines
from aerodynamics
sometimes missiles if im bored
or proximity fuses
I don't even
I make radars and sometimes helis
and then I never use helis
Leave me alone vro
or I make them so late I js don't wanna bother switching
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Dont have to be so negativew
i'm not being negative
giving insight โ๏ธ
Nvm my planes suck
hes using licensed
You dont wanna vro

Trust me

i love the air force so much
My very op planes trust trust
wait you can edit these cant you?
(I had no research to actually add anything good)
dawggggggggg
swap em out for heavy mgs and self sealing etc
you DO Tho ๐ญ
you have enough to make those better
Im researching heavy mg
do you have engine 3 researched
1947 he shouldve researched everything he needs in planes tanks industry etc
Not a CHANCE


genuinely what did he spend his researching on
I dont know
I had 3 research slots most the game so
actually its not that urgent
I was just doing industry ;-;
My cursed WW2 has over 34M casualties and each side still has over 12M manpower deployed, will it ever end?

how do i tell what to do during downtime
huh
wdym
bruh
idk im always not ready for war
yooo you're in newblood server fire
doesnt matter what im playing
but uhhh
not sure
how do i prioritize stuff?
You know what 1:1 isnt that bad compared to their numbers
during downtime you should be making sure your research, construction, and focus is all in the right order
what templates should i prioritize?
wdym
iinf
infantry is the backbone of your army
make inf, then offensive inf, or if you can afford it, tanks
how is uhh
doctrines are important but when it comes to templates when can i get away with changing it?
hm
special forces will be your offensive inf usually
when can i get away with templates > doctrines
unless you building some chopped build
basically always
I always do templates first
unless i'm a tiny minor and I need desp defense
also when is it normal to like stop building civs?
can i build mils for a bit and then continue building civs if i want more mils to build this one thing
late 37 early 38 on MOST countries
however
some countries like china
just build mils from the start
is japan one of those?
mid 37 usually
from what i've seen
like i am going commie path
I believe so
wait nvr mind
we cant give great advice for non historical
I actually have no clue
since ANYTHING can happen
yeah
@heavy vigil can you help ๐
you can have a superalliance of all majors and then afk the game
japan nerd
lowkey is uhh
is navy research that important if you plan on being a naval power but you dont plan on fighting another naval power for a while
nah
just do light cruisers and dds
the ai navy sucks
ehhh
nah
why
Im finally making aa ๐ฅน โ๏ธ
cause theyre too expensive for just spotting and it really demotivizes me to know i have to build 15 ships that i wont directly use in combat even if it makes my other ships monsters overseas
so just don't make them?
your ships
patrol with light cruisers
throw em out on a patrol order
i mean yeah theyre good but they just suck to build thats all
what kind of admiral for headquarters?
good one
I played it once
and I died in the civil war ๐
cuz I didn't know how to do the prep right
we love when civil wars take away your elite units
had like an army of full vet 5s of offesnive inf preparing for the french civil war
and they all defected
:(
lol
civil wars are either delete your army or dont
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battles are either winning or losing
no like
to perform best
usually you need 2 runs
just to figure that part out
Holy finally
border gore of doom and despair
fr
common player led peace conferences win
The war isnt over ;-;
let him cook
you couldn't tell that means you're an noob ๐ ๐ฅถ
Also I finally have plane research pretty much done ;-;
lemme see
the tree
Ik
get this thing
mb ๐ญ
then you can get good planes
he needs heavy bomb locks
yeye alg
I have an insane plan that just wont work ๐
Its stupid, it makes no sense
And im doing it
chat is there any way to cheese war support? im stuck in a rut at 52% and need 60 to get more manpower
Justify on something if you can
does that giv war support?
Increases world tension
Unless its already at 100
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alright will do, i got america win war bugged
Plane design?
Not good
Can I see
Alr time to make a new plane
It was literally trash just to try kinda contest the airwar
Now I have actual research ima make something good
Or try to
;-;
i finally win an air war as australia
impossible
it just took an unreasonable amount of time and 700 mothership planes over india
Is this any good?
why motherships
guys romania is the last piece of territory i need for austro-hungarian cores (ignore it saying hungary i changed the colour of the country and it got rid of the austria-hungary tag ๐ญ)
cause i still havent finished the research for supersonics by 1958]
The instructions given were unclear
this is why we add armor to our planes
why so many engines why do you hate speed
however both of us are in a faction with literally the entire continent
spare the UK
not HFs
am i cooked if i try to take romania....
Do more engines not mean faster? ๐ญ
was referring to normal fighters but yeah โ๏ธ
so i dunno what the second slot on the bottom does
same
really you should only make light fighters
i cant helpw ith this cuz i only ever make light fighters lol
spare a few small cases
;-;
except as like america
they ahve a great medium fighter mio iirc
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I never play usa cuz it's boring
as the US you can deadass just make anything
true
infinite factories
infinite materials
Well I guess I finally got their pride of the fleet
fr that's why i main them
yeah youre way too strong
if you look at ai germany you atomise them
if it was realistic the US would be even stronger tbh
Alright I got the license for a small fighter ๐ญ
no not even that
like we're strong today i go outside and i'm like damn this is where i live
focus tree js sucks
but 1945 was something else
DON'T
not even fun small
i don't need more mechanics
the focus tree is smaller than like half the minors
I do ๐คค
all youll ever need
So. What do I add to my small fighter
for fighters
i need my focus that gives me 10 factories in 1936
casey gotchu bro
the small fighter is the best one cuz the other ones take too many button presses
also for supersonic