#hoi4-general
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Question: does the AI recycle names of destroyed divisions? I'm facing the 1239'th German infantry division, and a part of me is hoping that's is actually the 1239'th infantry division and not the 1600'th or 1700th or something like that, because the casualties are already ghoulish.
how many divisions does germany have? do they have 1239 of them?
Intel estimate is 509-618. Zero manpower on all adults serve, because they took a beating taking out the USSR, then a lot of beatings from me.
I used to play nothing but romania in mp
i mean...yeah but in singleplayer
I was a romania main 💔
I like romania tbh
like
just really bad tree
When I want to play romania ill just play road to 56 lol
i wonder how will they take it up tho
next dlc is like
czechoslovakia yugo romania
right?
That dlc is only czech
no way
Its true
i geniuenly dont know who that is
i dont recognize names well
but seriously?
im...bit disapointed tbh
well good for them
You can check the steam page
This dlc better not be more than 5 bucks
Its a single nation
its gonna be 15
okay this better have some good mechanics tho
this arms exports isnt like...international market tho?
Dont think paradox is that dumb
That would actually be a terrible move
yeah but...they make a lot of those lately...
I dont think they are dumb enough to sell a single nation tree for 15 bucks
They are dumb enough to do a nation pack like south america for that price
idk, maybe not 15 but 10
they dont even sell the music packs for 5 bucks
i think (?)
Bonus songs pack is 5 bucks
overprice for our time
Non focus tree things seem to be 3-7 bucks
absolutely beautiful
you know what is even more beautiful?
lets just say i have to manage 4 fronts at once
THAT
Field marshals my guy
oh my god
😭✌️
This is almost ai management
Im ai
That is almost how the ai does it 
Do you need that many troops?
Yes.
When I play Germany 120 is enough
I have 3 fronts
Its not that easy
If you can't do the channel go from Norway to Newcastle
I tried that twice* and always get stopped right at england
Did you build carriers?
No
✌️
oh...
wait lemme delte the encirclement then ill say casuelties
i have moscow
it was 370k
I had a 172k to 6m Germans run as Stalin
One time i randomly found 92 soviet divisions hiding in crimea
1.5m
guys do yall have the problem with the letter that sounds like V but is a bit harder
what?
W?
I finally did it
Also the Japanese AI is so stupid the US single-handedly
KO them made my job 10 times easier
F?
Did you capslock
what kind of army and air force are you using?
no
@tulip thorn do u like my front ❤️❤️❤️
to not have enough fuel while you have the Caucasus, Iraq, and Iran
I hate it
It was during bba so I forgot unfortunately
there we go
i fixed it
anyway
CHECK THIS LADS
after YEARS of making my own templates
Honestly invading turkey was such a mistake as germany
my mechanized smashed through russia
does 100% compliance core?
This is a more current one but I definitely can improve since I produced too many spgs so I can add more heavy machine guns on them and I used motherships for the lols
unfortunately no
european italy 💀
built level 4 railway between Helsinki and Siberia 🤤
uuhhhhmm guyysss
Somehow only 65% participation when I occupied all the way until brittany
Build a supply hub
Switch law
If u are already scraping the barrel and need need more
Get despeate defense for +5%
a.
?
Good job
higher level rail means faster troop transport across them right??
i am
good good
Bro just set a defensive order
NAAAAHH
no need
imma disband some of these spammed divisions
and make some port guards
Also i just build level 7 forts on Belgium and Normandy
oh
I cant have another front rn
?
Did u invade turkey??
nuh
yes
That has lots of oil
Good for autarky focus
you most likely don't need 81 factories for guns, check your stockpile
ad you should definitely change lights to medium spgs
u dont need that many guns lol
even 25 (what i usually put) is way too much
15 is probably fine
focus on fighters and cas
more than guns
should have prepared a mechwall
Divide them into fronts
is there any good spain mod for playing as democratic spain?
what is it?
yes game of course this encircled spanish army has full supply
are they getting airdrops or what
state supply from infrastructure
these units are like 6-widths, they consume marginal amounts of supply but the state gives them some
also do you have unplanned offensive modifiers
but being 6-widths they're also really weak keep in mind
Yo, is there a way to figure out what game version older saves are?
I dont think so
why does Germany deadass do better without me in the war
UGK
You could jus try setting your game to older versions to figure it out
When I play as Italy in every scenario Germany has an easier time with the Soviets when I don’t attack
do you guys know why?
Are you trying to play it lol
Yes cuz I am making a submod and something is not right about something in the world
and I dont remember how many units I put on that part of the world
Im pretty sure its going to crash to an error
Since its in a total overhaul mod
One that has changed its map a little bit since
1.14.10 will work
You know, I think it might still be possible to look at the save data and troops without loading into said save
non aggression pacts don't have an expiration date
look at the tooltip it tells you when you can cancel it
does anyone know?
Not when it expires
because you can't revoke the pact yet with Jimma
you already can with Chiang so it doesn't tell you when you can revoke
Mostly just german ai rng
But also because the germans arent using as many troops to bail out a failing italian ai
i have 4 million men in the field
May I ask, what mod is this? And what path are you going as Germany?
Looks to be road to 56 maybe
because most of the time I have like 300 divisions as Italy and we are doing worse then what German npc would do by himself
Look at the political pie chart colors
Yeah I was guessing Rt56, I was curious what path cuz I haven't seen that flag before
Im also guessing a sub mod that adds new flags?
Yeah prob, pretty sure Rt56 doesn't have any swastikas on their flags
Because the swastika doesnt exist in normal road to 56
yeah
Also do i use tanks when invading the Soviets
if you can produce and equip them
Depends on how you want to play
in the current patch spgs are meta in sp
Spgs my beloved
I was trying out no step back so I was just absolutely spamming tanks
but we lost to the Soviets so I decided to load another save and go for Africa
I was planning to do that after getting a decent amount of Africa
it's always better to cap uk as soon as you can
but that requires you getting naval supremacy
purely a coincidence
I wanted to get a some more navy so I can guarantee it works
if you can then invade
once you take uk's navy you don't need to worry about navy any more
i remember my first barbarossa it was a absolute clusterfuck
i took more casualties
and i didnt even get to kiev
because i didnt know i had to micro i though a battle plan was enough
And i had the default panzer divsion

oof
battleplan is enough
i never micro and barb is piss easy
I also care about casualties
yea you can battleplan the soviets with like 10:1 casualties
wizardry
not really the ai is just bad+if you use high hp units you don't take much casualties
more useul than the un??
just more useless ais that'll steal your warscore
thanks to me, russia joined the allies.
ragnarök 39:
good day
i was hoping italy would be able to deal with 3 little portugese colonies for me 😢
cant trust those people
after that image, i declared war on the german empire, i won, BUT, the game crashed.
Hello
how are you miss flowi ?
happened to me too, but the opposite.
Can someone give me some tips on the game? I have some questions
What are your questions?
Im playing deltarune so everything is fine
Since i find one caracter cute there i play it every time im lonely
I have captured France Yugoslavia Norway Poland but I am struggling against uk now
This is your typical light cruiser that you will mass produce in a naval game
So I can just produce a basic cruiser like this with that design and its ok?
I would also make a carrier or 2
mid
:(
Really
What should I do gangsters
idk do you need naval range?
Idk I need naval dominance to capture them via naval invasion
My army and everything is strong but not the navy
Guys i started WW3 in 1963
After ww2 ended, i went in and conquered south america as uruguay, when i got to mexico to push to USA, mexico joined european union, scaling into a full blown ww3 with me being the owner of the allies, with poland, spain, portugal, yugoslavia and greece against germany, france, turkey, finland and norway and few other countries
Poland now conquered germany lol
are there any shcizo countries i can play to schizomax
uruguay
im trying to do world conquer
uruguay its this little piece of shit
i left brazil for almost the end
i nuked them
like
10 nukes
then naval invasion
i went into ww2 and grabbed a lot of territory from france
which gave me factories
and resources
then i grabbed italy
and asked nicely for paris
what if im not tryna do a wc
Then i went yes argentina and they became axis after i conquered them i became leader of allies lol
i just remembered, i have an achievement run to do as italy
i think it's funny hitler picked the year with the coldest winter in the 20th century to invade the soviet union
He should have used psychic powers to learn that 1941 would have the coldest winter
exactly
Major skill issue on his part
PETER GRIFFIN?!
why is soviet denmark (only greenland) a major power lmao
Because they are the strongest
i have another question
what
why does swedish spain exist
no idea
argentina is harder
their starting army is better than brasil
no because brasil starts very weak
they have like maybe 10 divs and like 2 mils
iirc its less
how fast can they increase that number
and their mils get like crazy debuffs
and how fast can uruguay
very slowly
hm
they never have enough to guard all ports and border
since when does uruguay have a good navy
you have a ship
Do the other commie south american states get good industry buffs? Ive only played argentina braizl and colombia
fascist uruguay is good
you get a bunch of spawn in units
converting
The US has been at war for nearly a decade now. The USSR fell to the Axis as the US built up its strength and dealt with countless... distractions. Mexican distractions. Japanese distractions. Venezuelan distractions. Chinese distractions. But, at last, Berlin has fallen, and the only two majors left in the Axis are Hungary and Turkey.
And now, communist UK has decided to declare war on Germany. Coulda used your help ages ago there Britain
ik but still
well no not a still
its probably converting just MIO upgrades which isnt a huge difference and like 0.10 cost
Soviet encirclements are so fun
Holy ratio
how do you stop it from zooming ur camera into the nuke location
not the greatest but still decent
can someone please tell me if my Pfp is or isnt violating Rule no.4
I DO NOT WANT TO GET BANNED IN ANOTHER PARADOX SERVER PLS
it usually doesnt?
when someone else drops a nuke like the ai
im tryna make a timelapse on tfr but it keeps zooming in 💔
it never happened to me
i think its cause of the news report thingy
Finally I understand war!!!!!
(I added generals after this screenshot)
After 200 hours of trying again and again I finaly got my big encirclment and won the civil war
No straits Philippines is gonna be so fun 😊
But did you add field marshals?
Oh yeah I did that to
Nice
I was just locked in the war and I forgot to add generals and field marshals
Feels good to win
Doesnt it always?
(Fun fact, no)
Going to be completly honest the ai almost encircled me wall I was encircling them but I fought back
im more ai
500 ships vs 260 ships and ofcourse the Royal Navy still wins, i hate this game so much
hoi4 players when navy
I started spamming ships since i became monarchy, and still cant defeat the british navy
I had ~400 ships, put them on strike froce, with like 50 destroyers on patrol, and they sank half of my ships, i barely sank their really old ships, now i have 580 ships, including 200 shitty subs
ngl everytime i play germany i wipe out france, put my like 70 boats in the channel on patrol then quickly naval invade and blitz em
The whole reason im at war with the uk is because of Italy, which joined the allies, so did france put they left somehow so i declared on them and stole their navy
its 1946, and only now i noticed this lol
What’s a good post World War One mod
Definition of skill vs spam
i've been wondering this
The Great War (the original one) has a postwar part but it doesn't have a lot of content
Poland's fun in it though
Ik one it’s called collapsing world but I’ve plade all Germany paths but no communist ones because I am bias
Ya
teaches you Manuever Warfare
How so?
i don't like communism either bruh
you've gotta use your Cavalry to snake and move where the Soviets aren't instead of directly engaging them
this template has a bunch of soft attack which i put on all my soldiers to defeat the sovs and americans
i love getting juicy encirclements during the spanish civil war
it makes you think ahead
you could pump these out so fast as the US it'd be unstoppable
i might try it next game
i literally have just a 5 army group maxed out with these and i just walked through europe
Oh ok
if i was rushing it i coulda beat soviets in 1940
1943 US could probably drop that many
i'll give it a try
that with air cover will just melt everything
I beat the UK, stole what remained of their navy and then i had to go to the toilet. i came back, and after the peace deal the game kept running. now im at war with the US faction, so the whole of the Americas, half of africa and Spain, while in my faction, is me, now the EU, the rest of europe which i havent annexed, China and the Timurid Empire, which controls all of India almost
for what
and then you have to click buttons to annex them
a destroyer
yes but what are you using it for
idk
like trying to win the naval war? did you start with the design and have no xp?
idk tbh i just have spare dockyards
and not a whole lot of destroyers
facts
id make that deal
I have to say the worst thing about the cap on how many staffed headquaters you can have is the fact you can't actually man all 4 soviet fleets
“Gains core on North Slovenia” lol
Wish i had core on north slovenia 😢
So turkey has its independence guaranteed by Romania, and Romania has their's guarenteed by France and Czechoslovakia, If i go to war with turkey will that snowball into france getting involved?
no
if you declare on turkey
only romania will get involved
sub spammer 🤮
i dont have steal navy dlc so have to improvise
build one
i buiilt super bbs but take a while to build
as reich?
as anyone
rubber unneeded
so you plan to send carriers with no planes into battle?
Non hist is fun
build some
sound strategy
hence, rubbedr
if you cant afford one factory on naval bombers you're cooked
cant afford any
not even 1
cooked
Who needs manpower
id rather build my millionth infantry equipment
ill just delete a couple armies no biggie
Oh sweet thank you!
i love when i move my fleets and driveby them with a port strike
Still havent found the hood....
Dont know where its hiding
nvm they capped
weird
usually in a port
just drive around the isles and put all your carriers on port strike
any tips for reformist enclave?
hi chatroom :)
hi casey
hru ?
good hbu
hi casey
hii vendrip i hope youre doing well
i suck at hoi4 so im gonna play communist italy
im sorry
Eh it happens to the best of us
Rule 2
You can delete it, no? Irl that has the same effect as sinking in
Not as satisfying
Plus why would I delete perfectly good free ships
Ik but atp that's the closest to sinking that ship
Btw why does everyone want to sink it?
Never understood that
Because its the british starting pride of the fleet
and very famous
Its also a achievement
Thank god my pirating ass doesn't care about that
Because
😭 💔
why would u say that
Rule 6 has been broken
?
its so over
brother you doomed yourself
<@&846894118219022336>
I don't read rules
execute this man 😭
My guy
See y'all in prb never lol
So when you join a server
Nope
You dont read rules
Nope
you're in a server with a whole corporation
and u expect that u can pirate their game
right in their server
Also your not going to get banned I dont think
idk how that makes sense for u to think that
no hes gone
hes gone already
its too late
mods got him
Damn
Rip
Well
You kinda get that coming when you dont read rules
Its pretty easy
Its like really easy to read rules
what are the consequences of talking about piracy btw? (I am NOT affiliated with piracy, just asking)
hello
discussing it is like a warning
guiding/enabling people to is a ban
tuva in the comintern?!?
They secretly lead it
And the save keeps crashing
corrupted prob
what day what hour does it crash
its its hour 03:00 its someone joining the war causing the crash
if its month tick then month tick causes crash
Its also in ironman
any other date and the save is just dead
Idk
Been playing alot of it recently
or atleast more than I used to
nvm its working
Yargh shiver me timbers, ye all scallywags and bloody lubbers, gotta retreat my booty
Ye all scallywags dare to question a buccaneer?
just dont discuss it here :>
Do what you want cause a pirate is free
You are a pirate
Yar har fiddle dee dee
Being a pirate is alright to be
Do what you want cause a pirate is free
You are a pirate
Arrrgh
🏴☠️
🇸🇴
We plunderin the bloody seas with this one 🔥🗣️💯📢
What will we do with the drunken sailor? What will we do with a drunken sailor? What will we do with a drunken sailor? Early in the morning
🇪🇪 FE How many victories Nobody will conquer FE
Ive been called a table-master in MP game the other day
What does it mean
Who is a table master
And why is it an insult
No but i gueniuenly want to know
do you have to do this for schwabist eu path? (russia is ruled by medvedev)
Tbh you dont have to do anything
But do it
Since federalization progress is a pain in the ass to get
There is a mod that shows how to get every path in TFR
Btw
u have to get as much federalization as possible before losing the european war?
I mean thats just optimal if you do
But its not neccesary
You need to do a certain path once you loose the war
Because there are 3 leaders to choose from
Look it up because I dont remember if its left or right economic path
Its not very intuitive
I belive it was the worse one
china is getting absolutely violated by japan
ik
but do they require the focus?
or like a lot of fed?
nvm i realized
do the allies not exist lol
that's usually what happens when the allies don't exist so focuses that make you join the allies make you join the us
can someone say to me how i need to play hoi4? i have 625 hours in steam but i can't do nothing , every country i want joins in alliances and there is great wars anywhere , what i should do?
@red robin yes we are still looking
hello yalls
🇪🇪 2041 the turmoil of ww3 enters its 27th month
🇪🇪 freedolist japanese storm shanghai
🇪🇪 freedolist estonia stands at the gates of moscow
i wanna do ww3 in MD as ESTONIA
like always
Thats just kinda how the game works
You just have to go after the allies or some other gigantic faction at some point
Thats one of the issues i have with the game
I once had a china game in older versions of kaiserreich where india joined japan and cuf killed them and the russia invaded east turkestan so we killed em too after they won ww2 that was the craziest china game to this day ive had also japan lost later on
I killed the allies before the US joined the allies
and i was playing germany in a alternate path mod
After world tension builds over 25% the British or other democratic countries will guarantee independence, the British have the most powerful navy but army isn't number 1 but pretty strong.
hello everyone
Chat is Brazil fun ?
omg really?
Commie is
Nice, i haven't really played communist
something about fascism jsut attracts me
thx for help
So what i need to do ? I'm doing nothing , only economics but brits or others make the tension.
Poland is going crazy
Femboy kingdom
Poland if the allies got their shit together and stalin let them cook:

Indeed
hi sheep, whats your fav warlord?
Honestly the only reason why the axis even got to take off is because everyone didnt immediantly quell them
either Khotan or Kumul
Guangxi
France could've packed up Nazi Germany in 1936 with relative ease
Yeah
Even combined allied- soviet incompotence wasnt enough to save them thankfully
The french and the british still contributed in taking them down
i don't know if it's thankfully
and then we came in and folded them with surprisingly low casualties
i guess that's the power of industry
Yeah when they were preoccupied with the soviets and the british
The british were ruling the seas and even the air
While the soviets were getting every man woman and child into the military
So many encirclements and yet they still outnumbered the shit out of a later teenage majority army
i still think it's impressive
Soviets beat the shit out of the fascists with somewhat shitty tanks that they mass produced
US industry was so cool
The us is the cleanup crew of the world wars
Join a war thats already won late and take all the credit
chat
novum vexillum vs milanium dawn
Even their founding, when they fought against an actually capable military force
They were half across the world
- terrain theyve never been to
Novum vexilium
Its just more fun
And runs better
its more fun as "unintended" nations
its pretty fun
maybe i'm just patriotic
And has so much "Immersive" BS
infantry is stupid OP
i think we did a hell of a lot
i was just annoyed because all pacific nations blow in the mod
like fiji has content
but its like
Do units with AA contribute to air superiority just by sitting around somewhere or do they need to be in combat
ough
it's not like thinking your own country is useless in a world war will make europeans not magically look down on you
They dont
They just reduce cas damage and air superiority stat in land combat
AA doesn't contribute to air superiority in the first place,
but divisions in reserve in battle, those that are not yet directly in combat, do contribute to anti air
Hope that helps
But when you look at why the americans didnt declare war on germany sooner its horrifying
thoughts on this?
got you bruh
1939/1940 div
Dont use inf in tanks
also the naval battles are pretty badass
my spgs are 4kmh
if you don't wanna be american where do you wanna be?
Yeah your carriers are great
If i could pick my nationality
Id be mexican
huh they don't even shoot down planes? damn
interesting pick
They shootdown cas during land combat
if i wasn't American i'd be from Australia
cool, otherwise the aa does nothing?
Still no reason to use inf
No not really
Also use only AA support company
they do,
well, anti-air is averaged of all divs in combat, even if in reserve
if u put mechs it would be like 30
Yeah but motorized inf does have that
And you dont loose as much div exp when switching to mech
30 org is enough for pushing units
War crime
replace the infantry with acv
Also mech have more hp+hardness
cav
this was a mp div
Soft attack is top 1 chat
well it shreds like 15 divs infantry stacks
i don't need hardness i couple it with heavy tds
Hardness just reduces damage against soft attack tho?
You would loose less tanks overall

Its a fun meme Div tho
yea true tbh i might make mech im just lazy tho icl
my industry was booming
I mean to them it looks like inf LOL
i always go P.E.G germany and get like 400 mils by barb
shut up mom im unifying china
History, culture, ezln, flag
Teach me your ways
Mexicans go through horrible conditions, on top of the cia funded cartels, i really look up to them especially if they live in mexico or former mexican territories occupied by the us
3 collabs on france belgium, justify on netherlands at the start of the game and get war reparations on indies, get every civ building buff out there, ruch austria and sudetenland
by like mid late 37 you should have 80 civs on construction
if u dont u did something wrong
by battle of france u should have 200 mils
Is it vanilla
then atleast 330 by barb but if you get more puppets like atleast 380
they basically are american atp but they have my respect
yes
Alr
anyone can be an american as i see it
Theyre americans but theyre not usamericans unless theyve lived here
Anyone whos lived in the us is a usamerican to me
Natives are americans
i'm part native so i guess
they call me the goat (i afked for 9 years and didnt do shit)
yall know any good modern mods, except for tfr and md
sul americano > norte americano
you ain't wrong
Anyways i think the cold war was the best war period for the us
wait nvm u should have 255 before the battle of france
bad take
ww2 better
yall rn I have battle for bosperous gotterdamerung and no step back do I get la resistance or by blood alone
isn’t USA just build factory’s until 1941
facist uk is THE strongest nation
cause u can core north america and commonwealthy by 1939
and then just take europe and core all of europe
3 continents cored
hell yeah
north america oceania and europe
nom nom nom nom
BBA
LR is after that
id rather have LaR tbh
Air designer is big
big boring
But u don't play the game like anyone else
sometimes i do....
sometimes i dont...
(I really wish australia had a plane mio)
it does
you just cant use it when going ahist
Naval designer?
worse
its locked behind not being free too iirc
like even if you cheat it in
If the australia dlc is bad im probs just not gonna play hoi4 anymore tbh
can it be worse
actually, maybe
if its like chile its worse
imo
If they keep the war advisory council and the invest in victory focuses im just not gonna buy iy
If im locked out of my research slots until 1939 its over
Poland just decided to lock in this game
watch
australia first nation to start with 1 slot
actually thats prob be nzl but whatever
They did that in one of my games, second largest superpower with like 700 destroyers
poland actually isnt ai restricted
like france
Actually nvm they can keep those terrible focuses if they let me core java for no reason
have you tried cheating
if you do the dutch colonial focuses the state modifier stays
No because thats cheating
i cheat
tbh java is like a million manpower just for making it compliant so
Cant wait for the next dlc to come out so people complain about america again
beat mine
Is that from convoy raiding?
no thatd be more moral
Using planes cost me like 100k australians before i decided i dont care about using planes ngl
this is more realistic this was without nukes
germany can do better
because its germany
planes are good
if you have the research for them
Now my planes only exist to defend my oil fields because i cant trade
vendrip when are we doing anzac mp for fun
Yeah but without a plane mio even when i outnumber them they just mulch my planes
i didnt have that issue because i made better planes
When you want to play at speed 3 (if we're lucky) because my internet is garbage
I just made good marines tbh
Nah my upload is the issue
I live in the middle of nowhere so the options are pretty terrible here
damn that sucks
Anyways im going to bed so gn hoi4 chat
gnnn
guys does AI poland ever do this focus?
Uh it never does on historical that's for sure
steiner will counter attack
the AI is sometimes... questionable...
the dishonor
Ts why i hate playing non historical
am i the only one who doesnt like navy rework
i feel like navy just got more tedious
i was hoping for a more fundamental rework that would make building ships actually worth but its still just nav bomber spam it looks like
Same
It got more complicated
its just more annoying now
especially having to split navies to patrol multiple areas for supremacy
and the naval hq stuff
i dont wanna be bothered
oh shit double good news we just finished off the french
Okay i agree with you partially
sheep mod update today
My take about ww2 was theres no good guys during it, only bad guys- the axis.
not yet fully out but bugfix is
i think there was a pretty good guy and its name is brazil
You can say things about allied atrocities but the axis just outdoes their evil at least tenfold
Idk enough about brazil during ww2 to verify
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_in_World_War_II their already winning so lets just join
Brazil officially entered World War II on August 22, 1942, when it declared war against the Axis powers, including Germany and Italy. On February 8, 1943, Brazil formally joined the Allies upon signing the Declaration by United Nations. Although considered a secondary Allied power, Brazil was the largest contributor from South America,
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they literally saw allies winning and said lets join em
literally 0 reason to join
a lot of nations did this in 45
they did it for the vibe
thats why i said brazil only
lame turkey joining basically after winning
This is mixed
brazil did it before it was 100%
Pure opportunity or to make sure that the axis's graze is dug?
even egypt joined
italy lol
Vultures or wanna be heroes
cant blame opportunists
liberia was the first nation to join the allies (in 1944)
Its pragmaticism
Which i hate
I unironically hate countries that do whatever is best for their country or personal interests
im so glad we dont live in the same country
i aint tryna see the government not do whats best for us
The government doesnt do whats best for the people
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