hoi4-general

[safe wing]

That’s what I’m doing atm

And I am winning

[viscid stirrup]

I havent played that mod

[safe wing]

You 100% should

[viscid stirrup]

I won as buryatia in the TNO mod

Also i won as revanchist china

[viscid stirrup]

Yunnan province

[safe wing]

Just make sure to download and apply large address aware

So it doesn’t crash

[viscid stirrup]

Huh?

[safe wing]

I’m talking about a different game

Medivial 2 total war

[viscid stirrup]

I know

What i dont know is what large adress awareness is

Or how to apply it

[safe wing]

It makes the game less prone to crashing as it allows the game to register mods with more than 4gbs

Also its insanely easy to apply it

[viscid stirrup]

Isnt that right after the sack of constatinople? Didnt the byzantine empire collapse?

[safe wing]

You play as Nicea

Yes

[viscid stirrup]

Oh so you restore byzantine empire

[safe wing]

I already got Constantinople back on the 3rd turn

[viscid stirrup]

Turn???

Oh

Its not a hoi4 mod

[safe wing]

Yeah it’s a Medivial 2 total war mod

[viscid stirrup]

They have turns?

[safe wing]

The devs made Byzantium have a historically accurate Komnenos and Palaiologos era roster

[safe wing]

Yes

It goes from 1220 -1620

Gun powder units in the late game

[viscid stirrup]

🗣️

How massive is this mod

My 6 year old mac will instantly crash🥀 🗣️

[safe wing]

I think the download was several gigabytes

[viscid stirrup]

Bro.

[safe wing]

I think they made a port for it to Mac actually

[noble crown]

Hows QOL for it?

[safe wing]

It’s complete

[viscid stirrup]

TNO is better

[viscid stirrup]

Theres no argument

The TNO graphics are so smooth and calming

[safe wing]

Actually it’s only 2 gigabytes

[noble crown]

Whats the mod name, stainless steel?

[viscid stirrup]

Bittersteel?

[safe wing]

Yeah for Medieval 2 total war

[noble crown]

Just kinda popped in tge middle of the convo

[noble crown]

Awesome, thank you

[safe wing]

It’s arguably the most famous mod for that game

[viscid stirrup]

Oh so its not a hoi4 mod

Man i got so confused

I dont have medieval 2 total war

[safe wing]

Yeah you have to command army’s in battle and use battlefield tactics

[viscid stirrup]

[safe wing]

Basically rock paper scissors

[languid patrol]

bruh my game keeps crashing

[safe wing]

Cavalry beats archers beat melee infantry beat spearmen spearmen beat Calvalry

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/chiang-gif-22385832

[sharp yarrow]

cursed timeline

[noble turtle]

WTF

[tiny iris]

Just play CK3.

[safe wing]

Eh not into it

Tried it out

[tiny iris]

More into the second game?

[safe wing]

No more in Medieval 2 total war and age of empires for Medivial era games

[noble turtle]

WOW

[tiny iris]

Is HOI3 fun?

[noble turtle]

Eh, that's hoi4

[tiny iris]

I know.
I'm just making fun of your graphics.

[noble turtle]

Oh, because my computer not good, often stop working

[tiny iris]

Well, HOI4 is a strategy game, it's the strategy that counts, not graphics.

[grizzled yarrow]

the graphics are lit not bad

[sharp sierra]

oh hell no

[wary cosmos]

ugliest germany i've ever seen

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon are ya proud bud?

[tiny iris]

So, does the type of city besides the capital matter?
I know war score but I mean bonuses.
Like Istanbul, it was possibly the greatest city in the world during that time.
Will it have a bunch of bonuses that other cities don't have?

[patent thistle]

are you talking about hoi4 rn?

[tiny iris]

Yes.

[patent thistle]

some cities have some bonies but not all

istanbul for example has none

[sharp sierra]

this bout to be a hard game

[patent thistle]

cant show you them cause i dont own gotterdämmerung but states like berlin, paris... have special buildings which give buffs

[steel zephyr]

stole karelia from russian civil war 🤤

[sharp sierra]

mutapa formed in an ai game pretty cool

[steep moss]

my life is empty without the Greek rework mod 🙁

[sage plover]

auggghhg

i tried doing the no step back achievement

was doing amazing

[snow pagoda]

Look a greece guy

[sage plover]

declared war on japan

my dumbahh forgot to defend north sakhlin

[steep moss]

[sage plover]

i was encircling german divisions thinking i had ts in the bag

[sharp sierra]

copy ur ironman saves over to a different folder and paste them back in

[sage plover]

too late now </3

[sharp sierra]

to save scum

yeah do that next time so the game doesnt waste ur time

[sage plover]

i didnt think it would of been an issue lol. i had 120 divisions on the manchurian border

compared to thier 0

[sharp sierra]

well yeah its for things u forget about or make a mistake

i always copy the save everytime i make a risky decision

[sage plover]

i usually do

i didnt think it would be a risky decision lol. the chineese had already delt w em 90%

[wary cosmos]

average chinese battles

[wild lantern]

are you playing with china?

[sly venture]

gotterhamburger

[robust basalt]

ts writing IS fire

[wary cosmos]

yes

[wild lantern]

my bro

nice

[fathom oasis]

How is the Communist China experience for a historical game ?

[wild lantern]

bad

play the nationalist china

[sharp sierra]

its interesting

i did this without losing a single soldier

with the infiltration mechanic

although all the kmt chinas units were still alive in the puppet nations

[wild lantern]

why are you playing communist china and not nationalist

[fathom oasis]

Hm, I will take this at face value, thank you for your unbiased insight Mr. President
Wansui!

[sharp sierra]

paradrop france in 1937 and u will have 50 factories to play with and fight the rest of china with

hatless spider has a strat u can follow

[wild lantern]

don’t play hoi4 like this man

its not fun

[fathom oasis]

Min maxing in single player is crazy

[sharp sierra]

dont tell me what to do or how to have fun

[fathom oasis]

Dude he’s the generalissimo

He does what he wants

[wild lantern]

correct

[sage plover]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[sharp sierra]

single player theory crafting is fun

[fathom oasis]

You think he’s gonna get caught by the communist Chinese while moving somewhere or something

[wild lantern]

with china i like to play on the defensive against japan

[fathom oasis]

It’s like when I play France and go fascist, I could doomstack navy in the channel and invade in a blitz but I like the fun of actually waiting till 40 or 41

[sage plover]

i love storming the USA in 1936 as monarchist britian

gotta recover the tea you lot threw in the harbour somehow

[serene breach]

czechoslovakioalbania

[sage plover]

</3

[grizzled yarrow]

is anarchist spain just impossible to play on historical

[wary cosmos]

no it is

[grizzled yarrow]

whatever i di

all my naval invasions into the uk fail

[burnt hawk]

how invade in usa

by air

[wary cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/jahouchinasupporttaiwan-gif-25756429

[serene breach]

this is some type of sickness

[wild lantern]

the old times

[fossil dragon]

we landed boys

[robust vale]

How does Czechoslovakia control Sardinia

[grizzled yarrow]

what year

[robust vale]

Why is it their capital aswell 😭

[wild lantern]

this is kinda disrespectful

[safe wing]

How? Shrek is an internet icon

[grizzled yarrow]

bro

ofc only my invasions of uk are a failure

[steel zephyr]

Saint Petersburg is such a thorn

[sharp sierra]

u probly usy a poopy uny

[fossil dragon]

early 1943

[grizzled yarrow]

bro

theres berally any uk resistance

[sharp sierra]

well by that time theyre spent

or at least most of their units are elsewhere

[grizzled yarrow]

theres still the usa bro

[sharp sierra]

by that time my units are so good that the slog of units i might face on uk will do nothing to stop me

the cas can be pretty bad

[grizzled yarrow]

like bro

fodder units

[sharp sierra]

lol

try invading scotland and then entrench in the mountains if all you have is infantry

then youll get more war score as well

from them grinding and losing

[grizzled yarrow]

gng the usa will join the allies

[sharp sierra]

🤷‍♂️

play the long game then

[grizzled yarrow]

i cant invade the us

i dont know nun bout navy

[robust vale]

Poor UK, getting naval invaded every game

[grizzled yarrow]

the world would be better off without the uk

its lit the only country stopping me from winning

[robust vale]

Maybe because you're always playing the bad guy

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/amelia-pathways-souk-british-britain-gif-9229689116020315010

[grizzled yarrow]

im playing anarchist spain bud

[steel zephyr]

🥀

[worn cliff]

all that just to be on an island

[wild lantern]

chill out fella

https://tenor.com/view/jahouchinasupporttaiwan-gif-25756429

[worn cliff]

can anyone tell me why i'm losing in sheeps mod

[safe wing]

Templates

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/blee-raspberries吐舌頭stick-out-tongue-gif-11966212

[worn cliff]

allies seem to have heavy TDs and guns 3 in 1940

i can't push them because i have zero hard attack

[wild lantern]

the goat

[worn cliff]

i think

[safe wing]

Accurate

[worn cliff]

would heavy tds counter heavy tds themselves 😭 ?

[sharp sierra]

i think cause each nation will rush their own tech to have it ahead of time and then the other nations in the faction license it

[worn cliff]

i managed to break maginot at first but then it ends on a stalemate

[sharp sierra]

they might do that i dont know the mod

[worn cliff]

i also made a shit ton of those space marines but they haven't proven themselves useful

i think i might've should've instead put my factories on air

[wild lantern]

is it better to have heavy tanks as support to the infantry or a only heavy tanks division

[sharp sierra]

prob too expensive and not worth it to have more than maybe 4 heavy tank battalions in a division

[worn cliff]

these usually work pretty well against mass mob but just completly useless when france has heavy tds

they pretty much have their tanks on every tile

[wild lantern]

i still don’t understand every template

[fossil dragon]

it's 1683 all over again

[worn cliff]

yea they did

they have like indochina which acts as a technocracy

[wild lantern]

but this time there are no polish hussars to wipe turkey’s ass

[worn cliff]

@sharp sierra how much hard attack/piercing to counter heavy tds

?

[fossil dragon]

no soviets destroyed them

[sharp sierra]

i have no clue im not a meta player like that i just know how to wrangle the basic ai

[fossil dragon]

last push germany kinda cooked

[sharp sierra]

like how much armor do they have

[worn cliff]

inf spam?

[worn cliff]

42 which isnt even that much

[fossil dragon]

Yeah 40W infatry

[sharp sierra]

maybe u could do a light tank armored recon that has piercing

[worn cliff]

i just have zero piercing and hard attack so it makes sense i cant push

[worn cliff]

you're right, although i don't quite understand the difference between piercing and hard attack

[worn cliff]

the divs are made were really made to push soviet since its an infantry meatgrinder

wait i think i got it

piercing makes it so that if you have equal or higher you deal 100% of the soft/hard attack

[quasi shoal]

Guns 3 and AT 3 gives huge piercing and hard attack buffs

They can pierce most meta tank divs

[steel zephyr]

denmark is so back?!

[sudden thistle]

Sheep’s mod?

[sudden thistle]

Yeah that’s normal

Tech rush

Like France rushes AT the whole game I think

Or it may be Congo

I mean u should have the same too

[worn cliff]

yes

[pure hawk]

Guys, I installed road 56 but I lag a lot, like one day irl it's 1 minute :/

[wild marten]

we are never getting a little entente rework are we

[quasi shoal]

What year is it?

[pure hawk]

March 1937

[quasi shoal]

We might over a long time

[quasi shoal]

Huh

What are your specs

[fierce peak]

is this good for 1938 guys

[pure hawk]

It's better you don't wanna know

2 gb ram :/

Intel 3

[quasi shoal]

Yeah i think i know why you're lagging 😔

[pure hawk]

😭

But at least vanilla work better

[wary cosmos]

take these

[quasi shoal]

If you take up some filler countries with a blank country it might be better

By using other mods

Idk tho

[pure hawk]

Okk thanks

[fierce peak]

i should annex finland?

ok

[wary cosmos]

puppet them

[fierce peak]

I did

i took the claimed land and puppeted

resrt

[steel zephyr]

gotta hold out

[main rover]

Going for the Kaiserin (Victoria) and The Woman in the High Castle achievement should I placate Eric Raeder or no? I feel it would slow me down due to focuses needed to avoid him rebelling later.

[sharp sierra]

every time i try making a full on tank division the disappointment is so overwhelming lol they cant go anywhere

[fierce peak]

whyd poland lose so quick

[safe wing]

Don’t

Don’t placate him

[weary lagoon]

only placate him when you feel like larping

[main rover]

Alright.

[safe wing]

Never as Victoria

[ornate jewel]

by chance is this just a way to get the dlc cheaper ?

[sharp sierra]

this sucks

[main rover]

Ty

[main rover]

Try Allkeyshop

[safe wing]

Your gonna need Khalid Ibn Al Walid for this one

[sharp sierra]

im not giving up on the save

im going to inflict 200 million casualties on the axis

[safe wing]

Reminds me of my current Stainless Steel Campaign as Byzantium, I’m fighting a 3 front war against Venice in Albania, Hungary in Thrace and the Seljuks in Anatolia

I love the Byzantine Turkish Archers Mourtatoi

[fossil dragon]

one more to the bag

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/impressive-darth-vader-most-impressive-gif-1233758011459247961

[fossil dragon]

and this only toke me 7 hours

[fierce peak]

guys where do we set up defensive river line against germany

[restive sable]

great faction name

[terse skiff]

because historical poland is programmed to fall immediately

[main rover]

Hang the nazis or imprison (thats what I usually go for to get extra pp)

But maybe extra base stability is worth

[steel zephyr]

chud germans

[safe wing]

hang the nazis

[main rover]

Did

[fierce peak]

am i cooked

[quiet vessel]

hello gangalang

it's been a long time

i'm making a romania focus tree mod that's cool bacon righr

[azure walrus]

not playing the monarchist path smh

[sharp yarrow]

Tno the good ending

temptation

[azure walrus]

no long yun

?

[sharp yarrow]

who long yun

[azure walrus]

yk yunnan

and their war of liberation

[sharp yarrow]

in tno? or base hoi4

[azure walrus]

tno

[sharp yarrow]

didnt happen this run

[azure walrus]

oh

sad

[sharp yarrow]

im suprised that germany didnt start nucklear war before i the surrendered

[azure walrus]

is this requiem? because blue germany isnt in baso tno afaik

[sharp yarrow]

requiem

for more russia focus tree

i beat funny clock man

[azure walrus]

fair enough, shouldve noticed the lack of argentina

good on you. which democratic russia is this

[sharp yarrow]

funny clock man fight was brutal

[azure walrus]

which democratic russia is this

i dont know them by name

[sharp yarrow]

novosibirsk

[azure walrus]

shukshin i assume

[sharp yarrow]

east of omsk

yeah

he got the cool outfit

[azure walrus]

not to rain on your parade but the economy is still run by corporations that ol' vasya is unlikely to crack down upon

cool outfit tho

[azure walrus]

still a very wholesome run

👍

[cold estuary]

Guys how to replace old tank divisions with new tank divisions?

[sharp yarrow]

i did the focus to destroy the mega corpotations

[azure walrus]

is that a post 2wrw thing

[sharp yarrow]

no before i just did focuses to crack down on them

and i passed all the laws

enviromental protection

trade unions

worker protection

equality act

all passed

and i did form coalition goverment

[azure walrus]

fair enough, i actually havent played novosibirsk myself and most of my knowledge about it comes from second hand sources

imma go play it myself now that i think about it

you should play yunnan

[sharp yarrow]

ok

i did play as burgundy once

pain

[azure walrus]

do you mean back when the globalplans were still a thing

[sharp yarrow]

no

1 month ago

[azure walrus]

oh

what was the painful part, didnt they chip off all the fun and now are planning to remove burgundy

[sharp yarrow]

i also unified russia a socond time after exploding it as funny clock man

[sharp yarrow]

the pain part was trying to survive

somehow everytime i fell into chaos

[azure walrus]

isnt it unavoidable

[sharp yarrow]

i disolved brugandy everytime

idk

apperantly there is a extremly dificult path to total victory

im not gonna try that

i need my sanity

also this run i did not get the japanese fishing boat accident

also usa turned communist and went to democracy after 7 years

now jimmy carter is president

[steel zephyr]

ts pmo, i broke my entrenchment by accident after russia fell and i annexed st petersburg, and now the germans been pushing this for the last few months

[azure walrus]

good luck playing whatever you play next

[azure walrus]

how did you get to war with everyone again

[steel zephyr]

i invaded the russians, the germans declared on me out of nowhere

the germans declared later that is

[azure walrus]

are you on historical or no

[steel zephyr]

😭 isnt it obvious

there was a russian empire silly

[azure walrus]

i didnt notice

victor emmanuel tryna realize roman ambitions

also is that KOMI?

[wild lantern]

where is the duce

[azure walrus]

idk but the name of italy is "kingdom of italy" which means they flipped to monarchy

[wild lantern]

nah its always kingdom of italy

[azure walrus]

VERIFY YOUR CLOCK

[azure walrus]

nah its usually "italy"

unless youre in rt56

[wild lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/mussolini-serious-who-cares-gif-5388395

bro really hit the emote

[azure walrus]

yo chiang kai shek whys your central government so ahh 🥀 prince puyi lwk deserves china ngl

so he can stop collaborating with japan

[steel zephyr]

🥀

[cold estuary]

U da real Osman Pasha

[azure walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/pu-yi-emperor-chinese-emperor-china-chinese-gif-13663574

[sharp yarrow]

oh no the jappanese fishing boat incident

[restive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/kmt-chiang-kai-shek-real-kuomintag-patriots-chiefs-taiwan-gif-17579615360057427467

[wild lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/jahouchinasupporttaiwan-gif-25756429

[sharp yarrow]

no my good russia run

[wild lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/history-army-marshall-pilsudski-polish-gif-24462542

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-hearts-of-iron-4-funny-jumping-jacks-gif-3864036126484251637

[steel zephyr]

🥀

[restive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-chiang-kai-shek-chiang-kuomintang-gif-24391014

[fierce peak]

why did germans stop advancing

[azure walrus]

🔥

[wild lantern]

why is it yellow

[azure walrus]

i love prince aisin gioro puyi

i love the chinese empire

[wild lantern]

do it with chiang

[azure walrus]

i dont have ncns

[fierce peak]

smoked

[azure walrus]

bro is a snake

[sage anvil]

hello

[sharp sierra]

yay i captured the indian railway gun

[sharp sierra]

how much steel u got

[steel zephyr]

enough

[sharp sierra]

i dont

im barely outgrowing my deficit

they arent attacking much anymore thouigh

[steel zephyr]

southern front so static i decided to just breifly break my line, encircle a few enemy divs, kill them then retreat

a lot of german and italian divs slowly killed in the north

[languid patrol]

god i hate vichy france

horrible game mechanic

[steel zephyr]

omg for the first time in 7months or so, no battle for st petersburg

or really the tile next to it

germans kept on attaacking it for ages

i lost 100k, they lost over a mil

[wild lantern]

whats up

the generalissimo is here

[steel zephyr]

uh oh

[zenith charm]

warsaw pact really snaked around me just to game ruin

uk and spain arent even communist

[steel zephyr]

problem no more

[vernal crescent]

let's goo

huh

[weary lagoon]

is this based? (vanilla mexico)

[solemn bay]

Pretty solid stats

[weary lagoon]

like 3-4 divisions of these carried me against the US

and now it's carrying the allies & 4th international against the axis

(along with the 80 block of infantry divisions i have)

[void harbor]

Should I do 35w tank divisions for Africa?

Bcuz desert

[gusty willow]

i feel like subideologies are an underutilized part of hoi4's ideology system

[void harbor]

Sub ideology?

I only get fascist, democracy and communist lol

As well as unaligned

[weary lagoon]

true but kaiserredux uses it very well

it's one of his core gameplay sometimes

[gusty willow]

yeah but subideologies are these little specifications that differentiate countries of the same ideology ever so slightly
each ideology gets at least 4 of em

their only function as of now is the extra 10 opinion they give to countries of the same subideology and that some focuses utilize them

[sudden grotto]

https://giphy.com/gifs/anime-uma-musume-1Ceq2S0bRRN1g1Hzp0

[solemn bay]

Umamusume is so popular they named a state after Tokai Teio

[steel zephyr]

thats just germany alone

most of entire axis causalties are on me

[solemn bay]

Suomi!!

[oak mantle]

The white death contributed to 50% of them (true story)

[steel zephyr]

generous donation by the axis

covered our own equipment loss

[oak mantle]

What country should i play and try to do a world conquest with

[vital cove]

they even named irl race horses after uma characters!

[oak mantle]

Im gonna try albania world conquest

[tawdry mountain]

gl

[oak mantle]

Ty

[tawdry mountain]

np

[oak mantle]

Whys commie albanias leader actually really good

[steel zephyr]

even uraguay isnt spared

[vital cove]

mid

[steel zephyr]

killfarming the north

their supplies are so horrible whilst i got supplies so i just encircle small groups of their divisions then withdraw to my forts

[sharp sierra]

afghanistan gave me 46k guns

[oak mantle]

5/10 ragebait

[vital cove]

what

it literally is not that good lol

[oak mantle]

For a generic leader its pretty good

[vital cove]

i mean its better than nothing

[runic storm]

join mp1

[vital cove]

but 10% output is just fine

[slim nexus]

If there ever is a gimmicky “Onlookers” DLC (Ireland, Luxemburg and Albania) they better add a portrait of him

[oak mantle]

I declined the italian demands and called the soviets in then italy joined the axis

[slim nexus]

How's your defense going ?

[oak mantle]

Good cause italian ai sucks

[slim nexus]

like always😆

[oak mantle]

I have 200k manpower fielded cause i get like 900 weekly

[slim nexus]

yep, from the communist focus tree

[oak mantle]

Yeah and the 500 from the spirit of army

[opaque zinc]

King zog is a baddie I hate to say it

[slim nexus]

Any plans on giving volunteers in Russia ?

I do see plenty of players so that

[oak mantle]

I could but rn i need to be cautious of the germans invading yugo and the italians possibly naval invading greece

[slim nexus]

yeah

[oak mantle]

But yeah its not looking too hot i agree

[slim nexus]

Could you assist Greece or Yugoslavia if that happens ?

[opaque zinc]

I just play Sweden rt56 whenever I feel like I don’t wanna lose anymore

[oak mantle]

Prolly not tbh

[slim nexus]

How are your generals ?

[oak mantle]

He got levelled up a bit after the italians continously naval invaded

[opaque zinc]

Hungary looks like a gun

[oak mantle]

Just now noticed this

[slim nexus]

You better attack the italians me thinks

unless you have no navy

[oak mantle]

Im gonna try get collabs on yugo and annex them in a couple years

[oak mantle]

I dont have a navy ill just steal it

[slim nexus]

yeah

[oak mantle]

Or paradrop

[slim nexus]

reclaim Apulia

[oak mantle]

Wheres that

[slim nexus]

in southern Italy

[oak mantle]

I have 6 fighters that i built im sending them over italy

[slim nexus]

in Apulia there is a sizable Albanian minority irl, the Arbereshe

[woven dragon]

YES

[oak mantle]

Ohhh

[woven dragon]

I FINALLY DID IT

I FINALLY BEAT THE COMMUNISTS AS THE NORTHEASTERN ARMY

I just have a question though, do the Japanese hold on to Manchukuo if they go democratic

[slim nexus]

Is there any focus in the German democratic focus tree to completely become a Presidental democracy ?

[oak mantle]

Ive killed so many german fighters with just 12 of my own and theyve killed 0 of mine

[slim nexus]

good job

what kind of fighters were they ?

[slim nexus]

Good

[crimson crane]

Is their a way to save templates if I make one and wanna use it in a future game

[oak mantle]

Helped reclaim small parts of yugoslavia

[steel zephyr]

finland sees all

[void harbor]

Should I use 35w tanks for Africa

Divisions

[lusty ruin]

How do I get my Italian divisions from Ethiopia to return home to Italy?

[uncut pollen]

ships

[lusty ruin]

How

[trim lotus]

It's a bit funny. I'm parked in the middle of North Africa, about to land in mainland Europe Any Day Now (TM). The frontline hasn't moved in months. Yet, weirdly, the Axis has chosen to throw away hundreds of fighters every month trying to contest the Eastern Maghreb airzone. There's not even any ground fighting, they're just trading roughly 5 fighters for every three of my own.

[uncut pollen]

uhmmm

idk

or you could disband them and than make new ones

[lusty ruin]

I’m not doing that, it’s the most played nation how could no one know how to do this

[uncut pollen]

I was guessing that usa,england,germany,japan and the soviet union are the most played nations

[opaque zinc]

Ok how should I organize my planes

Like

How important is air superiority

I usually can get it

But like

Should I attach them to my armies or whatever

Of

Or like

[quasi shoal]

very

CAS is incredibly strong currently

and air superiority means CAS is safe

also air superiority provides some buffs

[opaque zinc]

I know cas doesn’t need dlc but making it highly effective you need dlc probably right

[quasi shoal]

I mean you can idk why not

[quasi shoal]

🤷

I don't think so

[opaque zinc]

Hmm ok

[quasi shoal]

it's still quite powerful even without dlc I believe

[opaque zinc]

Ok I didn’t know cas didn’t work without air superiority

I just thought it would have like

A debuff

[quasi shoal]

it still works

but they get shot down

a lot

[opaque zinc]

Mm ok

[quasi shoal]

and also I think there's a debuff too

[opaque zinc]

But in cases where there’s no chance of me winning in air

What do I do like

For example Finland and soviets

[quasi shoal]

don't make air

[opaque zinc]

Is it even worth it

Just do AA right

I’m getting better at this game later then I would like but

I’m trying to win as Finland without the continuation war idk if that’s reasonable or not but

Every time I play they get more casualties and I get less casualties

[opaque zinc]

I can only dream of how it would be with dlc..😮‍💨

I like watching videos of ethiopias focus tree

It looks cool

[oak mantle]

Theres always a chance

I managed to get air superiority over the allies as albania

Central americas colour is so nice

[fair horizon]

its very nice yeah

[tulip thorn]

Again

<@&846894118219022336> Every channel

[mental mantle]

Why did Germany initiate Barbarossa me? I thought we had a non-aggression part? How do I even begin defending?

[heavy vigil]

hi chat

[lapis prairie]

Best mountain div?

[mental mantle]

1 mountaineer with 5 landcruisers and 5 artillery

[lapis prairie]

Its 41 and im chile

that aint gonna work

[astral forum]

Cause they got a war goal and waited till they could break it, set some lines at major rivers if you aren't prepped enough or your troops aren't there so you can entrench on some defensible positions

[urban bluff]

Bro HOI4 is broken now, I cannot form Greater German Reich anymore

[kind vale]

Skill issue

[mental mantle]

I have the best division

[quasi shoal]

lore accurate stalin?

[hollow silo]

bro didn't study history

[sharp sierra]

phew ok

[kind vale]

Why is the win ratio not 100%

[lapis prairie]

Idk

[kind vale]

Asian china?😭😭😭😭

[fresh bay]

yo i got osme disc rewrite error and now none of my mods or playsets work

[kind vale]

Do you use steam?

If so verify the integrity of the game files

[tulip thorn]

I'd also reset steam or your pc

[fresh bay]

yeah

[fresh bay]

wow it didnt do anything

[fresh bay]

how the phuck do i do that

[tulip thorn]

Right click on hoi4 on steam

Click properties

click installed files

Then click "Verify integrity of game files"

[fresh bay]

wow thank you

[lapis prairie]

Is it worth staging a coup in the US?

[fresh bay]

it did nothing

[tulip thorn]

Im guessing you dont have la resistance

[tulip thorn]

Did you wait for it to run?

[fresh bay]

yes

[lapis prairie]

I do its just not enabled

[fresh bay]

i did it while running

[tulip thorn]

I think its a waste of time and political power tbh

All it does is cause a civil war

[lapis prairie]

Yeah but i dont have any other use for my pp

Decent navy for chile

[fresh bay]

wow it might have worked thank you random hoi4 brony i will forever be thankful

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-twilight-sparkle-mlp-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-twilight-sparkle-mlp-gif-6396438480313651304

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-derpy-hooves-mlp-my-little-pony-clap-gif-15401120

[fair horizon]

WHERES THE CRUISERS

YOU HAVE NARY A CARRIER

[sharp sierra]

coastal defense ships>

[sharp sierra]

how does this game not jjstuc rash aklk the time

[heavy vigil]

are you okay

[sharp sierra]

i turn 21 in may im going to be an alcoholic

[quasi shoal]

[heavy vigil]

im going to do an australia no navy game sometime to piss you off mark my words

[sharp sierra]

i hope they dont fix the faction manpower thing

[quasi osprey]

When the Romanians were defeated idk why there was no peace deal does anyone know why.🤔

[sharp sierra]

are u fighting anyone els

[quasi osprey]

Wdym the allies

Romania was guaranteed by france soo

[sharp sierra]

is romania in their allies faction

[quasi osprey]

Yes now

[sharp sierra]

then u have to get the whole faction

for peace deak

[quasi osprey]

Ooooh thats why

[sharp sierra]

yea its annoying

[quasi osprey]

I often wondered why I mostly get peace deals only with the majors

[quasi osprey]

What if someone else like germany maybe gets everyone will the peace deal appear

[sharp sierra]

yea then every nation who fought the losing side will have an amount of points they can use

[fair horizon]

i mean i sorta did while i was destroying the other world's navies

[quasi osprey]

Ok thats annoying but I will have to deal with it

[fair horizon]

🤮

[quasi osprey]

I dont really want to wait lots of years to maybe get some land

[sharp sierra]

u know how effective these ships will b

one battle is all it will take

for them to all be sunk

[quasi shoal]

what thing

the contribution shi?

[sharp sierra]

it doubles the amount of manpower you have thats in occupied territories

[quasi shoal]

oh

I have yet to try and create a faction

[heavy vigil]

no, deleting all ships day 1

blocking off all seazones

[amber matrix]

Opinions on the Poland Donut Strat

[fair horizon]

:(

[terse skiff]

france still fell lmao

[patent thistle]

kindly telling the soviets to leave

you would think stalin at some point would stop himself if he sees he aint breaking through

[grizzled yarrow]

Why do u have so much land

[patent thistle]

these tanks be carrying the mannerheim line

[patent thistle]

invaded sweden and norway

thats also why my navy is this large

first offensive is going great

DAM-

[coral gorge]

this is hopeless

[vital tundra]

hello

[tulip thorn]

Hello

[vital tundra]

join vc?

helping lounge

[patent thistle]

never thought my silly finish light tank build would get me anywere

[tulip thorn]

And why would one want to do that

[vital tundra]

recreation?

[patent thistle]

biblically accurate winter war:

[tulip thorn]

I've seen better

6/10

[patent thistle]

first time i actually did finland

[cursive oxide]

Holy cow that's Crazy

[tulip thorn]

its still nice

But i've seen better

[tulip thorn]

?

[patent thistle]

these 2 legit carried the mannerheim line early game

[tulip thorn]

Quite the analogy

[patent thistle]

also ik not a great design

[tulip thorn]

💀

[patent thistle]

usually dont do tanks

[vital tundra]

shit

[quasi shoal]

[vital tundra]

ignore message]

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-my-little-pony-twilight-twilight-sparkle-concerned-gif-7493578752120429000

[vital tundra]

hollup\

[patent thistle]

like i said i usually dont do tanks

[vital tundra]

coworker gave me some caffeine im lockedc rn

[tulip thorn]

🥀

Also tanks finland 🥀

[patent thistle]

i am more of a special forces type of guy

[vital tundra]

please join helping longue i want friends on the real please join if u have mic

[quasi shoal]

you should've done special forces then

[patent thistle]

hey i got a lot of shit tanks for free

[tulip thorn]

Those are way better for finland

[quasi shoal]

esp rangers

[tulip thorn]

Very true

[patent thistle]

dont have the DLCs

[patent thistle]

i wanted to joke around a little

[tulip thorn]

Special forces my beloved

[quasi shoal]

wait are rangers locked behind ncns??? 😭

[tulip thorn]

That is actually tragic

[quasi shoal]

I love rangers so much 💔

even tho in a lot of cases they're worse than mountaineers they're still so awesome

[tulip thorn]

I just love special forces as a whole

(Not paratroopers)

[patent thistle]

i basically now gave germany a free war in the soviets-

[quasi shoal]

doesn't look like it

[quasi shoal]

paratroopers get crazy high org at least

[patent thistle]

like look at these strenght bars-

[tulip thorn]

Org doesnt mean much if your only good for your gimmick

[quasi shoal]

bad supply you're buns 😂 🥶

/j

[quasi shoal]

yeah but it's funny

[patent thistle]

its the north damit what do you expect?

[quasi shoal]

also it's you're 🤓

[quasi shoal]

supply hubs 🥶

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[patent thistle]

before they are completed the war is over

[quasi shoal]

js build faster man 🤷

[tulip thorn]

Only true pros can build supply hubs in 2 days

[quasi shoal]

I don't believe so

[quasi shoal]

why'd you demand peace

should've capped them

[patent thistle]

i will continue in them in the continueation war

i just want to build a few supply hups for that

[tulip thorn]

[patent thistle]

also i got my estonian brothers back

what do i now do with those? rejuvinate them into housing?

[quasi shoal]

fallback line or sumn

[sharp laurel]

an i cooked

[patent thistle]

i mean if i have to fall back this heavily its already joever

[quasi shoal]

the territory you'd be falling back from is filler wastelands tho

[quasi shoal]

yes

[finite plume]

Aw cmon my economy can't be that bad 😔

[quasi shoal]

isn't this afghanistan

[finite plume]

🤷‍♂️

[heavy vigil]

no

its when you have a low amount of civs and are a high puppet level such as collab government

or are importing licenses and dont have civs

[heavy vigil]

no modern political/controversial figures please :) #server-rules

[empty spindle]

There

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/under-new-management-more-like-under-new-management-megamind-megamind-meme-jokez-da-joke-gif-19867663

[wild lantern]

give me the role generalissimo please

im Chiang Kai Shek

[fair horizon]

No way, how did you escape the communists good sir?

[misty fossil]

look under there

thats your answer

[icy crescent]

Dam.

[heavy vigil]

would you trust a tank made out of airplane materials

[ember vine]

Do you know what happens when the greeks, turks and kurds start arguing too loudly?

The polizei gets called

[patent thistle]

THE SOVIETS STRAIGHT UP HAD NOTHING LEFT IN THE SECOND WAR 🤣

[ember vine]

How dafeq

I couldnt beat em as finland

[patent thistle]

in the first war you usually try to gain your shit up to karelia, in the second you use the german behemoth

[misty fossil]

mod?

is that uttnh

[ember vine]

Yeah but building up both Sisu and division mass at once is hard

[patent thistle]

the first war led to this

i then peaced them out and preceded to still do the continuation war

[ember vine]

1,5M casualties

[slim nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-leader-meme-angetreten-gif-4294715270744901997

[lost tide]

How did you conquer leningard

[finite plume]

Some chonky supply routes there

[patent thistle]

2 light tank divisions and a dream

[lost tide]

Murmansk and onega fell easily, leningard was a nightmare to secure

[ember vine]

LMFAO

[lost tide]

How tf did you even produce light tanks

[ember vine]

Am saving this

[patent thistle]

i used that one focus that gives you shit tanks from majors

[lost tide]

Finlands industry is so buns

[lost tide]

I was speed running all of the army focuses that gave me buffs in preparation for the winter war

[ember vine]

Gayly: "ANGETRETEEEN" 🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹

[finite plume]

I will make sure the UK never even THINKS about sailing another one of their boats

[patent thistle]

congrats for basically having nothing

[finite plume]

Still better than nothing

[lost tide]

Dis ain't helping your case

[patent thistle]

it was litterally in that exact part of the tree

[finite plume]

Idk man

I think this ratio of deaths speaks for itself

[heavy vigil]

novum vexillum

[misty fossil]

ah

[heavy vigil]

because yesterday

[finite plume]

I genuinely don't understand how Novum Vexillum is in the state it's in

[heavy vigil]

i wanted to play modern day

[lost tide]

Late game hoi4?

[heavy vigil]

and then i loaded up mildawn

and it was like

[finite plume]

43'

Modded tho

[heavy vigil]

the worst experience known to man

because all the nations i wanted to play either had no army or a stupid event chain with a million debuffs

[finite plume]

Millennium Dawn would be fantastic if it didn't have lag

[heavy vigil]

and so i loaded novum and its like a lot better in that sense

[heavy vigil]

also tanks and air suck in mildawn

[finite plume]

CAS shreds in MD wdym

[heavy vigil]

while in novum theyre awesome

[heavy vigil]

infantry is so OP why would you use anything else

[finite plume]

I don't get why HOI4 players think you can stick to one thing only 🙏

[heavy vigil]

you research ahead of time

[finite plume]

Why only use one when you can use both

[heavy vigil]

especially in mildawn

you get stuff like 7 years early

its great

[finite plume]

They definitely made Tanks/Air/Navy much more annoying to get post-Gotterdammerung

[heavy vigil]

navy is click patrol

[finite plume]

I miss old navy

[heavy vigil]

also wdym? like content wise?

they dont seem to be developing much but its fine

a lot of things are from early patches

like they have early patches nsb xp gain

and early ncns patch doctrines

its like the opposite of that guy who talked about revisionism

novum does NOT do that

[vital cove]

mildawn is barely even a hoi4 game from what I've seen

[patent thistle]

germany just really, really, really desperately wanted central asia and mongolia

[vital cove]

its an economy simulator

[tiny iris]

I played CK3 for a while before returning to HOI4, it is so different.
CK3 has minimal strategy compared to HOI4.

[finite plume]

Even THAT is a shallow statement

[lost tide]

Does anyone have a good bicycle template

[finite plume]

The economy only really matters for the first few years

[lost tide]

Idk how to make one as finland

[finite plume]

Once you get a good economy it doesn't ever matter

[patent thistle]

i have not used a single time bicycles as finland or at all- 💀💀

[tiny iris]

My birthday is in 2 days, do I wish for a HOI4 DLC or EU5?

[lost tide]

Dawg I don't know what winter logistics or the long range support comps even do

I just have winter logistics for my jaegar and regular infantry

[lost tide]

How

HOW

[patent thistle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BearishAF-hollow-knight-silksong-git-gud-fb15DR1BjqhH0b6s7N

[slim nexus]

Hollow knight

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1437934989609271436/1471066076241727570/image0.png?ex=698d948b&is=698c430b&hm=61a74a26a4458dfc08d5a26314ba7d6adc6dbe7f02fc9d75f4b49067eca98517& who wins blue or green

[slim nexus]

When i pc i will make 2 generic focus tree nation with all these cored, and observe and wait until 1940 and make them declare war on eachother

[patent thistle]

personally blue has the positional advantage while green has majors like india and russia completely isolated

especially the germanic nations and the african states on green are cooked

the only way green can win is if russia and india tag team china and central asia to unify their fronts

[vital mural]

"abount"? unplayable

[short ore]

which dlc gives you the habsburg options for austria or is that base game

[prisma saddle]

götterdämmerung

[short ore]

alr awesome

[short ore]

How good are no step back and no compromise, no surrender?

[broken pier]

I think it's a fun addition to play more Sino Japanese war but I don't think it's worth the price

[patent thistle]

with how little content it gives outside of asia, it is definetly not worth the price its set at

the fact they didnt even do nations like malaysia or thailand makes it even worse

[zenith charm]

what is happening all around me bro

[silk haven]

im new to hoi4

what country should i play

[lost tide]

Germany

[crude schooner]

catgirl brigade what

[slim nexus]

Lol cool

[calm siren]

HoI4 "peace" conference aah borders

[zenith charm]

yeah man every country around me got a civil war for some reason and when they get a peace treaty they just annex their former ally's land

[calm siren]

that could be easy peasy to annex them, right?

[zenith charm]

about that

yeahhh

[calm siren]

the Warsaw pact kinda cooked

[zenith charm]

somehow even the uk and spain which are autocratic monarchies joined the communist warsaw pact

[calm siren]

"what if Stalin's Soviet Union was 100 times stronger" aah map

[calm siren]

my luck is like this

[silk haven]

alr

[zenith charm]

ive literally been building up to invade for like over 5 years now

[calm siren]

that's the longest invasion plan I've ever heard of

[zenith charm]

okay bro like what am i gonna do

[eternal palm]

Playing as?

[zenith charm]

france

[eternal palm]

Oh shit

What year is it?

[zenith charm]

2017

almost 18

[eternal palm]

Oh modern day mod

When does it start

[zenith charm]

2010

[eternal palm]

So you've been sitting there for 8 years and did nothing

[zenith charm]

what was i supposed to do i had a civil war and had to build up from scratch

[eternal palm]

Yea that's a pretty good recipe for restarting

[zenith charm]

nuh uh

[eternal palm]

Kinda is

Anyway, kill Britain

Or any country that you can even invade

[zenith charm]

spain is in the warsaw pact

look like 2 images above

[eternal palm]

Did I say spain?

[zenith charm]

sorry

britain is too though

[eternal palm]

Is it though?

[zenith charm]

yes

[eternal palm]

You've built up for 8 years

And you mean to tell me you aren't Ready

[zenith charm]

i am now

[eternal palm]

Yea then go kill Britain

[zenith charm]

the only good thing i have is my 5k airforce

[eternal palm]

See that's good

U should have some starting navy to contest the channel

[zenith charm]

i had like 5 subs as starting navy but i stole italy's

except i'm not contesting the channel

no chance

[eternal palm]

Ass mod

Wdym France doesn't start with a navy

Smh

[zenith charm]

tbh i didnt check but again i had a cw so didnt bother to check starting army and air

navy too

[eternal palm]

But you could've taken it back???

[zenith charm]

ok well atleast the east is secure

[eternal palm]

Or at least should've Gotten it back

[zenith charm]

no peace conf i outright annexed them

no idea too

[eternal palm]

Yea you shouldve gotten it back

Ass mod

[eternal palm]

Oh I see the problem

Never puppet

Always annex

Unless this mod forces you to like Kaiserreich

[zenith charm]

it does like kaiserreich, yes

[eternal palm]

Fk

What an ass mod

Truly

Don't play this shit

[zenith charm]

no i like it

building period is ass true

but when war starts its fun

[calm siren]

uuh Africa

[calm siren]

and WHY is Italy divided?😭

[zenith charm]

i killed it

dayum

spain and uk broke off and made their own alliance somehow

[heavy vigil]

#server-rules message 👀

[worn cliff]

Whats the best counter to heavy tds

[eternal palm]

Heavy tds

[worn cliff]

So bigger heavier heavy tds

K

[eternal palm]

No just the same heavy td

[heavy vigil]

assuming youre same skill as the enemy, attack the units around it that are bad

if there are no units around it that are bad, you are in a competative lobby and will have equally many heavy tds

[worn cliff]

I made this niche space marine shit yesterday (ignore terrain debuffs i added flame tanks to it later)

[zenith charm]

what the heck man

[worn cliff]

The armor went up to 50 after i upgraded it

And like 120 piercing

It seemed to do well against tanks but it was just terrible when i played against mass mob soviet

[eternal palm]

Mass mob?

Not a thing

[heavy vigil]

dont discuss piracy on this server.

[worn cliff]

What do you call it then

It was just infantry stacks behind rivers and my spgs couldnt push it out

[eternal palm]

Battlelplan build

[worn cliff]

Well sure if u wanna call it that

[eternal palm]

Yea nah

That's not how u do mp

[heavy vigil]

thats bad

the hp is low and width is high

i see the vision, but if you want 3 line AT and especially a tank it should be larger

[worn cliff]

what do i need hp for its a space marine

[heavy vigil]

so it takes less losses

[heavy vigil]

higher hp always takes less losses

[eternal palm]

27 armor space marine gg

[heavy vigil]

for a space marine you specifically would want to utilize the high hp value of infantry

[worn cliff]

I said it went up to 50

[eternal palm]

Aa can pierce that

[eternal palm]

Line at can pierce that

Just Dont make space marines

They suck

[zenith charm]

my western flank is secure i can trade again

[worn cliff]

Its meant to counter spg

[heavy vigil]

thats cooked

youre low hardness so you take a lot of soft attack damage

[eternal palm]

So? Why not make actual tanks

[worn cliff]

I meant it in the way that spg templates usuallly have low piercing anyway