hoi4-general

[mild roost]

okok

[sharp sierra]

do medium flame tank and field hospital

then one of the armored engineer things if u got it

[digital aurora]

I wonder if the infantry support armour doctrine is worth it

[sharp sierra]

i was picking that one a lot cause i didnt care and i dont make divisions with more than 1 or 2 tank battalions ususally

but its not better than the spg one

[fair horizon]

since when?

also which one is the ai?

so somehow when my brother loaded our mp save it instantly finished a battleship and carrier i just started building the last time the game was saved

[pale flare]

nvm mistook the AI, wast familiar with the flag which was apparently communist US

PH needs more generals man

[slim nexus]

of course

would the Devs ever listen ?

[wary sparrow]

those 5 are obviously different, its racist if you cant tell them apart

[heavy vigil]

you have 2 already

greed

[buoyant radish]

fidel castrotron

Playing OWB plus expansion mods that add the rest of the continent

[mystic sand]

Yknow, sometimes i wonder, was there anyone in the 30s delusional enough to think this would be a stable situation?

I mean look at that country

[woven gate]

holy crap saddam hussein

[umbral agate]

how do i deal with the allies bombarding me with naval invasions

[daring tiger]

kill them before they can or just make more units

[glad sun]

Any easy way to play reogarnized china i like their tree more

[daring tiger]

idk i havnt played china lmaooo

or just tag switch

[glad sun]

Ima try annex and release

[umbral agate]

i know but like

i have 300 coast guards

and

they invade from turkey, greece, italy, and north and souther france

i cant handle 6 fronts

[daring tiger]

what are we doing bro

also are we like late game barb or what cuz that only really happens once at that point im pretty sure

[umbral agate]

no i am trying to do eu

[azure crescent]

who ever was in charge of making japan i hope your pillow is warm on both sides because what the hell am i supposed to do here

[umbral agate]

im germany and i can beat the uk and us navys together

i have alot of planes so i beat them on land

[daring tiger]

🥶

[fair horizon]

this new naval crap is the worst update they've ever made

[daring tiger]

yea bro late game just be like that im afraid

[fair horizon]

someone at paradox explain how the hell i just got naval invaded THROUGH MY NAVAL SUPREMACY

NOT ONLY THROUGH MY DOMINACE

BUT THROUGH A STRAIGHT

and no they didnt invade

[atomic grove]

the black sea tile that touches the bosphorus is kinda broken

[fair horizon]

nopr

they invaded bursa

[atomic grove]

it touches bursa and it also touches the black sea parts of the bosphorus at the same time

[fair horizon]

constantinople is a straight

they invaded the port in bursa

[atomic grove]

yeah they can do that

because the sea tile that touches the bursa port is huge

[fair horizon]

no they cant

so again tell me how they invade it

[atomic grove]

yeah thats the thing

its prob a bug

[fair horizon]

tell me how they invade it

[atomic grove]

but for some reason they can

[atomic grove]

oh wtf

yeah idk how tf they did that

[fair horizon]

and now theres 100 troops in my countryt

and ive lost

fix this damn game already paradox

[atomic grove]

sadly for some reason ur capital will now permanently be in gaziantep

or ankara

[fair horizon]

yeah im done playing this garbage

broken crap update

thank god i saved myself $50 by having that happen before i bought the expansion pack

[feral grove]

does anyone wanna rate my unit

I spent a lot of time on it and I want to know if its good because for once I made something non meta that works

[tulip thorn]

Yes

[tulip thorn]

11/10

[feral grove]

wait really?

[vale dagger]

yo guys in owb how do u get more manpower

[fair horizon]

agriculture or core territory

new signing bonuses

[vale dagger]

im enclave puritists sooo not a lot of options

ooo ok ill do the signing bonuses def

thanks

[fair horizon]

all the agriculture research gives flat and increases monthly growth

[tulip thorn]

no

Line artillery is terrible

And that combat width

[violet gale]

Thanks

[frail bolt]

It’s 10 December 1936 in my playthrough and Italy still haven’t capitulated Ethiopia,
Classic Italy

[fair horizon]

port striking goes hard

[heavy rover]

ts tuff

[viscid swift]

guys i think this is a good trade

[spiral prawn]

whats ur plane template

[spiral prawn]

🥹

Do you have one for 1936 design too?

[viscid swift]

nope, im not sure how to make a great template for 1936 so i typically just start making all planes near 1940 😭

[spiral prawn]

anyways im stealing this

[viscid swift]

dont 💀 me i just put a shit ton of mils on it and it gives me like 2 per day

they had 3k-5.8k 2 months ago 😭

[frail bolt]

The Italy in my playthrough is so incompetent, they didn’t capitulate Ethiopia and it’s late 1937, there is already volunteers fighting for Ethiopia

[glad sun]

waht does in the same track mean

[spiral prawn]

Complete three doctrines in the same track

[glad sun]

What is the same track

[burnt hawk]

❤️

[pseudo raven]

Finally some meta templates in this chat

[glad sun]

i did that tho?

[spiral prawn]

You have to replace a track two times

[glad sun]

Like i have had games before where land air and navy are all full done as well

[shut sigil]

I think you need more line artillery 🥹

[glad sun]

Repalce? So i need to remove it when i finish

[spiral prawn]

Yep

[glad sun]

Ok

[shut sigil]

If I intend on making planes I just slap a 4x light machine gun or 2x cannon or wtv it was called (in the second slot)

[glad sun]

Is this a mod?

[shut sigil]

Ahhh yes

The perfectly balanced game of HOI4

[slim nexus]

6/7

[fierce peak]

💔

[mystic gale]

they want HOW MUCH

[shut sigil]

They'll probably cancel it at some point based on the amount of deliveries

[cursive oxide]

Holy that's insane

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[mystic gale]

invaded Poland

[sand pulsar]

I hope he survives

[burnt hawk]

😂😂😂

Bro play any Asian country🚩🚩

[thick jay]

Hi - can someone explain why can't I see Naval Headquarters as a build option nor do I see any on my map - I have the Götterdämmerung dlc

I'm playing Italy

[fair horizon]

naval headquarters is from the japan dlc

ncns

thanks japan

[fair horizon]

i think my kd is pretty good

[zenith charm]

no more italian army

[fair horizon]

uh huh

[toxic egret]

https://tenor.com/view/omegathvg-gif-26839817

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon and you thought the situation in my byzantine game was bad? (random game with saudi arabia)

[fair horizon]

GOML

dont ask why i made so many types of carriers

i was actually trying to ic maxx for once

tldr basic is better

[patent thistle]

atleast you dont have 6 diffrent nations of ships

[fair horizon]

the akagi and kaga are the only non-australian ships

[patent thistle]

thats what i meant

i have: 2 american carriers, 2 japanese carriers, 2 british heavy cruisers, 2 german heavy cruisers, 2 italian heavy cruisers, 2 french light cruisers and 2 british light cruisers

[mystic gale]

hella europe

[fair horizon]

if it works ig

[patent thistle]

and a couple of frigates i made myself

[fair horizon]

very diverse fleet

how do you stop them from all the infighting?

[patent thistle]

they all hate eachother equally so its easy to keep them off teaming with eachother meaning they dont fight because they know they cant win or they get teamed up on 🤣

my own frigates be dealing with hell in their fleet-

because numbers wise for some reason frigates are objectively better then destroyers if you dont have a massive naval industry

[true quest]

time to add another spreedsheet game to my collection

[fair horizon]

this is why i like high reliability, 12 months of fighting

[patent thistle]

same here

[fair horizon]

not a surprise, they're basically just commerical ships with a gun

[patent thistle]

they for some reason even have a higher range then actual destroyers

[fair horizon]

from what i understand thats also a bit more accurate

[patent thistle]

early variant: 1500 KM (destroyer), 2000 KM (frigate)

[fair horizon]

the flower corvettes were whaling ships after all

i love putting super heavy armor on regular battleships

[patent thistle]

it is not more accurate when you can litterally place the same shit on them a destroyer

[fair horizon]

ngl i wish they would add corvettes/sloops to the game by default

[patent thistle]

same amount of slots

[fair horizon]

limit them to one gun and make them cheaper

make destroyers between them and cruisers

[patent thistle]

sloops were torpedo boats right?

[fair horizon]

i think thats what australia called their corvettes tbh

not really sure

[ember vine]

What would happen if you played chess with erwin rommel?

[patent thistle]

he would encirlce your queen

[ember vine]

He's dead now so you would sit and look at a corpse over a chess board for the rest of your days

The game would never end

Unless you give up

[fair horizon]

heres a picture of a grimsby class

[patent thistle]

fun fact: the soviet navy with this mod gets a massive upgrade in the form of screening ships

as the mod also spawns (known) small ships

[cosmic kite]

what does it mean?

i got it randomly

[kind vale]

You completed the faction goal

[atomic grove]

if u do enough goals in ur faction

ur faction manifest goes up

[cosmic kite]

ohh

thatnks

[atomic grove]

eventually to 100

[cosmic kite]

i got it randomly as murica

[zenith charm]

another one

[kind vale]

Poor Italians

You murderer

[zenith charm]

i lost an army earlier because they got saved by german tanks

i'm not losing another

[burnt hawk]

😂 😂 😂 😂

Shame

[kind vale]

How did you lose men to italy💀

[cosmic kite]

hitlers best dream

[zenith charm]

i was fighting the german navy in the north sea

and canada's cav divs started going into libya

so i had no supply

[fair horizon]

historically accurate africa campaign

[zenith charm]

and like 50 italian divs and 10 german tanks jumped on me

[cosmic kite]

canadas cav💀

[zenith charm]

i'm fr they have 50 divs

[cosmic kite]

waiting the muricans appear into the north africa

[cosmic kite]

seems like not AI

[zenith charm]

no need the campaign is finished now

[burnt hawk]

How play for Scandinavian countries

[fair horizon]

too busy making the longest range shot from one battleship to another

[cosmic kite]

gg

[fair horizon]

IT DOESNT MATTER THAT IT WAS STATIONARY

[cosmic kite]

bruh

[burnt hawk]

Vredux?

[kind vale]

Its just a ship with big snipers on it

[zenith charm]

hm?

[burnt hawk]

Mod for font

I'm use vredux

[zenith charm]

no im playing darkest hour

[lethal ether]

is sheeps compatible with rt56??

[compact saddle]

Yo guys

Wat nation should i play?

[burnt hawk]

Inperia

[compact saddle]

Ok

[zenith charm]

revenge for tobruk

[cosmic kite]

historicsaally accurate

italy

[cosmic kite]

mod? @compact saddle

[compact saddle]

Yeah

[zenith charm]

we just can"t stop winning

[cosmic kite]

no like what mod

[compact saddle]

Heats of minecraft

[cosmic kite]

ty

[modern torrent]

who the hell are my allies bro, we gonna lose 😭

[compact saddle]

Wth

[compact saddle]

The mod is for 1.16

[ivory hull]

why is italy in your faction and why is belgium still alive?

[snow rain]

what's that mod ? looks nice

[modern torrent]

idfk

[ivory hull]

darkest hour

[modern torrent]

french reinforced belgium before the war even began 😭

[snow rain]

did it get updated recently ?

[ivory hull]

i think they are working on the 1.17 port

they had a big update in december tho

[snow rain]

oh yeah, it was updated back in jan !

[ivory hull]

yea the next update is the 1.17 port iirc

[quasi osprey]

soviets cooked?

[compact saddle]

Nah

They still prob have 10 m man power

Its ok

[atomic grove]

kaiserreich

[compact saddle]

Get road to 56

Are you a minecraft fan?

Cuz it haves a minecraft mod

[atomic grove]

i recommend playing russia or the left kuomintang in that mod

very fun

[icy egret]

Kaiserreich kinda complex for first time, especially Russia? Not sure if that’s a GREAT first choice

But if you’re pretty confident with vanilla and it’s systems already it’s worth a shot.

[atomic grove]

its easy

both actually

[patent thistle]

why did italy even have a carrier??

[atomic grove]

if ur talking about complex then im pretty sure ur talking about germany in kr

[quasi osprey]

nice encirclement

[zenith charm]

i dunno it just did

[patent thistle]

saudi arabian tanks are soon to be real

[quasi osprey]

finally the soviets are crumbling this is the revenge for them non-stop attacking me for a year

long live polska

it went from this

to this

in a single year

is this a good encirclement?

yay moscow is falling

bruh not a single panzer even entered the city it was taken by polish cavalry

[pale flare]

cuhhhhhhhhh

[fair horizon]

which one are you?

[pale flare]

player is always left side afaik

so yeah

[fair horizon]

yikers

[undone dove]

do i still get achievements on open beta

[sick gale]

chat

why cant i fix my division name

[slim nexus]

How can I achieve Hakko Ichiu with Hirohito in power ?

[fair horizon]

i find it funny that britian had zero screens in that

[slim nexus]

other than Nobuhito or the Empress

[fair horizon]

ALLIES GET OUT

[quasi osprey]

germany....... after all I have done to help you😭

[patent thistle]

FREEDOM FOR ARABIA HELL YEAH

[hollow silo]

colored railway

[quasi osprey]

bruh I am not allies but my faction has more divs than the axis

[ruby rover]

Can someone please explain to me how the GDP and Debt system in The Fire Rises Mod works?

[patent thistle]

getting rid of the artificial state that is iraq

[pale flare]

just to be safe...

[patent thistle]

every state become a city

[rare sand]

what's a beginner friendly nation to play? i've already done germany and communist china

[pale flare]

poland or finland maybe

red blue or yellow

[rare sand]

is red not best because of the terrain?

[pale flare]

🤷‍♂️

red it is

[wild marten]

czechoslovakia da long way

[deft flame]

hi guys

[wild marten]

slight problem

im out of fuel

xD

[primal cobalt]

Yes

[wild marten]

why am i labled as the agressor

lol

[pale flare]

mf where even are you

oh alaska lmao

[still loom]

My friend says he can't see any coal

Did they remove it?

[cursive oxide]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident

is this in hoi4 ?

[rare sand]

yeah i literally got it in my last germany playthrough

you can choose to reward him, he becomes an ace, but you get 5% democracy, you can choose to punish him, which gets you war support or whatever, or you can just do nothing.

[queen bronze]

ok restarting for the billionth time as germany.
do i skip light tanks and just wait til med tanks are availible to work on them or do i make light tanks and train divs of them

[pale flare]

yipee

[normal yoke]

lmao

germany has taken paris

and france has taken berlin

[pale flare]

ol switcheroo

[wild marten]

im right outside of berlin

finally

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-squid-game-2-cheers-happy-excited-gif-13406404385856133045

[rare sand]

leave the line on for some armoured recon for when you actually have medium tanks, but yes skip, you can beat france with just infantry if you do it right

[rare sand]

or you can do a silly no tanks playthrough, just go prussian path all infantry for fun

[pale flare]

😟

[eternal palm]

[clever shuttle]

why cant my ships find the rest 22 ones in the region can anyone help me

[rare sand]

that...why? I wanna see how it performs though

[eternal palm]

Theyre either subs or on strike force and your detection is too low

It doesn't matter

[feral grove]

everytime I wanna ragebait I send that picture. Also its good against ai infantry units

[eternal palm]

U have more than enough control

[eternal palm]

Nice ragebait

Kek

[pale flare]

up detection, get radar

[clever shuttle]

no subs in the force and they are on patrol, i have 96,74 procent

[clever shuttle]

fr?

[eternal palm]

No I don't mean yours

It's the enemy ships

They're probably subs

And your detection is shit

Get it higher

[clever shuttle]

ahh okay thank you

[pale flare]

yeah, if you want you could try splitting up fleet more

[gilded wasp]

Beat germany in '43. I think I didnt do that bad for my first soviet run

now what.

[pale flare]

kill alies

[gilded wasp]

Honestly my end goal was just to beat germany, now-

[gilded wasp]

genius

forces are a bit low though, should I get more or just yolo.

[pale flare]

get more, best if allies will attack you first so you get war support boost

[gilded wasp]

Yeah, I need to prep anyway

my guys werent the best, i just got lucky with the ai

i need my modern templates

[eternal palm]

Definitely seen worse

[gilded wasp]

Well the thing was

I set up at the rivers

and that worked well, but ofcourse

its the germans

they eventually pushed through

and somehow

someway while I was doing mini offensives in the north, they encircled 3 of my southern armys.

Desperate deployment of several dozen infantry later, got those 3 armys out and crushed em

(river front did 160k casualties to me, 1 million to the germans, get rekt)

[soft yacht]

bruh

[lost tide]

I have a question

How tough is the winter war as finland

[gilded wasp]

depends on if the AI hates you or not

[lost tide]

Because the soviets have brought a whole ass railway gun near karjala

[gilded wasp]

oh yeah ur cooked

if the soviets push through leningrad, as far as Im aware you die.

[eternal palm]

As hist Finland, pretty hard

[lost tide]

I have 24 divs manning the northern front, 8-10 manning the southern front

[eternal palm]

But if u go fascist you're able to get the whole nordics and beat Soviets during the winter war

[lost tide]

And 1 div in each coastal city + 2 divs as rapid response coastal clean up forces

[lost tide]

I went historical democratic

[eternal palm]

Ouch

Yea that's tough

[eternal palm]

What was your army at barb?

[lost tide]

Granted I am close to getting the foreign volunteers buff + I am going to get the Motti tactics focus

[gilded wasp]

suprisingly low.

about 2ish million men.

[lost tide]

How many divs does finland have usually for the winter war

[eternal palm]

Div count?

[gilded wasp]

I was trying to conserve equipment, guns over bodies

[eternal palm]

How many mils did u have

[lost tide]

Oh yeah the mils thing

[gilded wasp]

24 x I think 6-8ish armys

[lost tide]

I lack a lot of mils ngl

[gilded wasp]

As many as I could get, about 120

[eternal palm]

What

[eternal palm]

....

Holy shit

The fact you won amazes me

I guess it's a testament to how bad AI is

[gilded wasp]

them river lines be slapping

[eternal palm]

Imma keep it a buck, your build was horrendous

[normal yoke]

stll havent capped

[gilded wasp]

i could be wrong, I dont really remember all my numbers, I just remember how I was set up and how it went

[eternal palm]

Less than 200 inf and 120 mils?

Awful.

[normal yoke]

their capital is in strasbourg

[gilded wasp]

could be talking out of my crack

[eternal palm]

The mil count speaks for itself

[gilded wasp]

yeah was probably easily 160+

[soft yacht]

good div or no?

[normal yoke]

tfw when the only competent reichspakt member was ukraine

[gilded wasp]

very fat division, very high supply usage

may i ask, where are you planning to use said army

[woven gate]

WE JUST BEAT ESTONIA IN CURLING

HELL YEAH 🇺🇸🦅

[eternal palm]

Too little motorised

[soft yacht]

im playing as germany

[woven gate]

wait this isn't off topic

[soft yacht]

its my first game in like a year

[eternal palm]

Try this

[gilded wasp]

where

[zenith charm]

replace the 4th row with mot only and remove one tank to make it 30width

[soft yacht]

its only 1937 so i cant sadly

[soft yacht]

western/east front

[lost tide]

I made transport planes as finland because I wanted to use them to paradrop divisions into murmansk

[eternal palm]

But that's what you should go for

[gilded wasp]

First off

[soft yacht]

not in siberian russia but russia too

[lost tide]

Now I am praying to every god I know to hold the damn line

[soft yacht]

oh ok

ty

[gilded wasp]

if you're going to use that in the eastern front, get logistics

russia no matter what has zero supply

[soft yacht]

yea

[proud tapir]

are spgs worth it as offensive divisions for minor nations without the capacity for proper medium tanks?

[gilded wasp]

until you get the supply hubs, your army will be starving

[eternal palm]

Nope

[soft yacht]

right

[eternal palm]

Tanks are certified major territory

Tanks are pretty useless

Inf is strong enough

[proud tapir]

Well, i guess we are gonna stick to slapping artillery to an infantry division and calling it a day

[soft yacht]

like this?

[zenith charm]

yes

[gilded wasp]

SPGs almost always not worth it

[zenith charm]

now as others have said get theses tanks supply support company

[soft yacht]

alright

[gilded wasp]

and another thing

space them out

Stacking penalty SUCKS

[soft yacht]

so how many per general would you say?

[gilded wasp]

depends on what youre doing

you should have some generals for defense incase you screw up somewhere

[soft yacht]

just going to steamroll poland and france as fast as possible ig

[soft yacht]

oh yeah i do

[gilded wasp]

well whats your army comp right now

[soft yacht]

always do that

[soft yacht]

how do i see again i havent played in like a year

[gilded wasp]

ill just generalize

you got 24 div armys

[mental mantle]

#MakeTankDesignerFree

[gilded wasp]

and im assuming you have plenty of regular infantry

because its cheap, easy to produce and germany used plenty of it

[gilded wasp]

interesting

[soft yacht]

all the panzers are just the basic light div

[gilded wasp]

Well 1st off

if youre in like 38 or 39

[soft yacht]

38

[gilded wasp]

You need ALOT more then that

[soft yacht]

oh yeah

im gonna pump it up i forgot

[gilded wasp]

I had 5-6 armys

but then again

i was on an easier difficulty

and my divs were beefy so they made up for it

[soft yacht]

ye got 5 attack and 2 basic defense temps

im on regular difficulty so

[gilded wasp]

well lets see

Im going to give you an idea

for rommel

[soft yacht]

alright

[gilded wasp]

atleast half should be the panzers

so 12ish

[soft yacht]

medium or light or does it matter

[gilded wasp]

light tanks are useless by 1940, its better to bumrush mediums

[soft yacht]

alrighty

[gilded wasp]

• my fav hoi4 youtuber

are you using a dedicated motorized div or are you just using panzer as your motor/tank

[soft yacht]

well i havent produced any motorised yet

but i have just the basic div

[gilded wasp]

err

well lets see

[soft yacht]

no clue what to do with motorised yet

[gilded wasp]

alright I got a fair idea

So for rommel

12 tank

8-4 infantry

and the rest can be your choice, mountaineers, marines, or even paratroopers

[soft yacht]

alright

[gilded wasp]

paratroopers are essential, theyre the only way to knock out britan

your navy isnt competing with them

(sorry to dissapoint)

[soft yacht]

yeah

i always get massacred by them navy wise

[gilded wasp]

heres an idea

for an easy knock out

make sure its early in the war so their army is still iffy

[proud tapir]

i wish this worked on AI too......I HATE LATE WAR

[gilded wasp]

get air superiority (easy)

and then plan out 2-3 landings on ports

[soft yacht]

alriight

[gilded wasp]

Why? Simple, you need to spread out your army as much as possible

i learned this the hard way by my agonizingly slow british campaign

[finite nacelle]

the russians are multiplying

[lost tide]

I have a question

Should I build a railway gun as finland

The soviets have one near leningard bombing my forces near the mannerheim line

[umbral agate]

how do i remove this?

[sly venture]

why cant germany guard the english channel

[lost tide]

We have bigger fish to fry 🥀

[normal yoke]

bro

you're cooked

look at the east

[lost tide]

Forget the east what happened to sardinia

[sly venture]

at one point we were 2 tiles away from moscow

[lost tide]

And what are they doing in Savoy

[uncut pollen]

Remove what?

[short ore]

are the ways to get better at the game just playing and watching youtube?

[uncut pollen]

Stalin?

[umbral agate]

the water thing

[sly venture]

i love d day

[lost tide]

The national spirit he is mentioning

[normal yoke]

retreat and get high enough capitulation so you can switch side and do the civil war

and then go to war agains't germany

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[uncut pollen]

What is that name from the faction your in?

[lost tide]

Dis is worse than all previous suggestions combined

[umbral agate]

wdym

[uncut pollen]

But other than that

Idk

[umbral agate]

i just used commands to annex afgan

then released it as free

[uncut pollen]

Your alliance

[normal yoke]

unironically, there is no other chance

[grizzled yarrow]

Yall

[slim nexus]

I still can't wrap around why they didn't transfer the two tiles Croatia has to Backa

[umbral agate]

no comment

[grizzled yarrow]

How do people end up w like 90 divisions in the spanish civil war

[sly venture]

we are holding the line on the west

[normal yoke]

bro

you're cooked

SWITCH SIDES

[uncut pollen]

Lmao

[lost tide]

"holding"

[sly venture]

its winnable

steiners counter attack going to save us

[lost tide]

Wtf were you doing as italy the whole ass time

[normal yoke]

failing to invade greece i guess

[lost tide]

Infact explain north africa, sardinia, Ethiopian front

[sly venture]

no

[lost tide]

Levels of incompetence I have not seen since my first germany campaign

[normal yoke]

historical italy

[grizzled yarrow]

🙏🙏

[inland falcon]

[lost tide]

Sheer luck as the Spanish nationalists

[grizzled yarrow]

sob

[short ore]

does anyone know when hoi4 is on sale again?

friend wants to start playing

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[trim schooner]

wtf are you playing

[short ore]

standard hoi4 obv

[lethal ether]

they should make a little saint james civil war

mod

[kind tartan]

guys, is hoi4 worth buying?

[solid bane]

Is Steam down? It is not connecting at all.

[vital cove]

not for full price that's fir sure

if you wanny buy wait for a sale

[kind tartan]

i will already buy it on sale, there's no way that i will buy it for full price.

[solid bane]

I think the vanilla version plus a couple of the good DLCs is worth a couple hundred hours. Beyond that, I'd mod the shit out of it.

[kind tartan]

well is hoi4 without dlcs playable?

[solid bane]

Absolutely.

It's a great game when it stands on its own, just Paradox is doing their usual bullshit with DLCs.

[viscid stirrup]

no

instead, invest into the SMP 500, which grows around 8% every year, accounting for inflation

[slim nexus]

hello

[viscid stirrup]

by investing into it, you will double the amount invested in 10 years, accounting for inflation

[kind tartan]

i'm under 18 years old.

[solid bane]

That's what retirement accounts are for. My 457(b) does that so I can retire and play HOI6 all the time.

[chilly hornet]

If you want steam workshop mods > downloaded exclusive ones

[viscid stirrup]

so what? you think youre any worse than those grandpas?

[solid bane]

Damn am I the old one here 😂

[viscid stirrup]

retirement accounts are fine too. the most important thing is to let the money make more money, allowing for you to retire earlier

you could also theoretically invest into individual stocks

i invested a bunch of money into samsung and the stock price went up from 60k won to 160k won in a year

very risky tho, dont recommend

[solid bane]

I actually tinker with mine every quarter. I have a 401(a) and a 457(b) that do that work for me, and also sizable money from my grandma's inheritance in an MMA, plus I work and do fairly well.

[queen bronze]

so, i screwed up, and did demand slovenia, not knowing it basically forces war with yugoslavia when i start against poland
is there some way i can cheat and undo that? its too late to go back.

[viscid stirrup]

you cant unless you save your game manually

[solid bane]

With stability in the USA being how it is, though, I'm not super excited about investing right now.

[queen bronze]

i guarentee theres some form of cheat.

[trim schooner]

Buy it for them in valentines so they’ll be your valentines 🤦💯🧑‍⚕️

[viscid stirrup]

dont invest into the US then. invest into strong stable low debt democracies

maybe germany or south korea

[viscid stirrup]

theres a spring sale

[short ore]

nuh uh buddy

[short ore]

alr awesome

[solid bane]

Yeah I know. Honestly I just finished graduate school literally last month and I'm trying to catch up with my life again lol.

[viscid stirrup]

not right now

[short ore]

yh ik

[azure walrus]

does collapsing world rise of radicalism still crash on mac

[viscid stirrup]

ive never tried

[short ore]

also guys

[trim schooner]

Drop it all and play hoi4 24/7 only

[short ore]

what dlcs are good if any

[viscid stirrup]

but dont play that ridiculous mod, play equestria at war or TNO

theyre much better

very high quality mods

better than the base game itself

[solid bane]

I wish 😂 I'm a single dad too.

[short ore]

fellas

are there any good dlcs?

[trim schooner]

gotta teach the kid how to play also

[solid bane]

He does play lol.

My oldest one has about 500 hours in it, and he's 12.

[trim schooner]

holy kid probs better than me

[hazy mesa]

The best one is the south america pne

One

Because uguary gets a focus tree

[solid bane]

He's decent.

[safe wing]

NSB, BBA and AAT are mandatory

[short ore]

what

[solid bane]

We play Axis & Allies together and he is quite bad at that, though.

[safe wing]

No step back

[safe wing]

One what version, two I’m sorry for being hostile as I was in a bad space atm of our last convo

[short ore]

why are they 20 bucks each

buh

[safe wing]

Paradox being paradox

[hazy mesa]

Ikr its a steal

Too cheap to be true

[safe wing]

At least it isn’t Rome remastered which is 50 usd and a shoddy remaster of a legendary game

[solid bane]

Yeah no worries. I actually forgot who you were anyway until you reminded me anyway lol.

I currently own the 1941 anniversary version, we also play the shitty version by Beamdog, the 1914 version, and North Africa. He's also come over to my friend's house and watched me play Global 1940, but he himself has never played.

[safe wing]

I had a giant table which is being used for something else atm that was made for global 1940

[queen bronze]

in air mode, i dont see any colors of green and red etc.
any idea what happened

[solid bane]

We're about to restart 1940 soon, I won last time as the Axis. I think it was about 40-50 hours of live play time and about 10 turns. But it was also us taking it slow, chit chatting, ordering pizza lol.

[shut sigil]

Restart the save

It should fix it

If not then restart game

[safe wing]

Did you do the J1 (turn one Japan) attack strategy?

Basically you attack the Philippines, Borneo the British Battleship near Malaya and Yunnan

And you feel ambitious enough you can attack Pearl Harbor a year earlier

[solid bane]

I'm trying to remember as it was a couple months ago but no. I've never liked that strategy. I did it on J3, because I wanted to prevent the USA from gaining its war economy on U3.

[safe wing]

The official meta is attack the allies turn 1 as Japan

[solid bane]

Attacking them earlier is literally free IPCs for them, and if I attack on J1 that's 60 free IPCs for them.

Well I won so 😂

[safe wing]

True

Have you tried the fanmade 1941 setup for global 1940

It starts in June 1941

[solid bane]

Nope.

[safe wing]

A lot more unit the start

Took me and my friends about an hour to get through the first turn

[solid bane]

Yeah the turns do get faster and you move on. I think the first day of our G40 game, it took 8 hours to get through 2 turns.

Did you ever try 1914? It's pretty realistic lol that game becomes a SLOG.

[safe wing]

I did

[solid bane]

I won as the Entente but boy it's a grind.

[safe wing]

Historically accurate

Though Austria Hungary is way too overpowered at the start

And Russia underpowered given how Russia had the largest army in 1914 but folds within a few turns

[solid bane]

Yeah what's funny is I lost Russia to the revolution. My friend did TERRIBLE with Germany. Eventually I had conquered the Low Countries and was landing Americans and English too fast for him, and I finally punched through with the French. I had French troops in Poland at one point. But AH was really holding their own.

[safe wing]

Reminds me someone made a Russian civil war side quest house rule

[solid bane]

I couldn't get a good strategy with Russia.

[safe wing]

Russian territory spaces are too big imo

[solid bane]

We put a rule in to limit the amount of troops you build in India and that kinda screwed me.

[safe wing]

Anyways I’m gonna go for the Holy Roman and a Empire achievement as Italy

It’s funny I read that the Pope Leo was given the title of Pontifex Maximus by the Western Roman emperor Valentinian III

[solid bane]

Yeah, I am Catholic and they cover a little bit of the history of the papacy in OCIA.

[silver loom]

my game crashes immediately after startup

[fossil dragon]

at long last I got him

just 24 more

[safe wing]

Nvm Rome total war as the house of Scipii

Is what I’m going to be playing

[oak mantle]

What are some good rts games to buy

Or games like hoi

[grizzled yarrow]

guys

whats a good time to like win the spanish civil war as anarchist spain

[safe wing]

Total war up to Attila is what I’d recommend along with Red alert and the command and conquer series

[oak mantle]

Is steel division good

[safe wing]

But if you want a competitive mp scene Age of Empires 2 definitive edition is the best

[safe wing]

Haven’t played it so I can’t say

[oak mantle]

Okay thanks

[steel zephyr]

😢

[oak mantle]

What is age of empires about? It looks like a fiction game based on the steam page

[astral forum]

I second this

[safe wing]

The Middle Ages

[oak mantle]

Ah ok

[safe wing]

You can play as the Scottish who are called the Celts in the game

You actually play as them in the tutorial campaign

Which is about William Wallace

[oak mantle]

Hell yeah

[safe wing]

My favorite campaign is the Attila the Hun one though

Where you play as the Huns and ravage the Sassanids, Eastern and Western Roman Empires

[oak mantle]

Is the game about like building up and stuff or is it just stuff like missions

[queen bronze]

THIS IS WHAT I MEAN. why did italy get all of france when they did NOTHING. its so stupid and it obliterates my playthrus

[steel zephyr]

uh oh

bruh

my army just got deleted

son im crien they jiust released aladn out of me

[safe wing]

You fight and reeanct historical stuff and yeah you build up too

[fickle cove]

can someone GENUINELY give me tips on how to win as china

btw i want to subjugate the warlords

not do chinese united front

bc i wanna unify china

[fickle cove]

bro pls

[viscid stirrup]

How have you not destroyed the soviets yet

[steel zephyr]

bro the war ended when germany collapsed

ive captured olonets and onega and was finishing off murmansk

then germany capped and i lost most of my army

[viscid stirrup]

I cant give any tips becuase geniunely anything works against the ai

[fickle cove]

what's ao?

oh ai

well not for me

[viscid stirrup]

Clankers

[fickle cove]

for me i always spam troops

[viscid stirrup]

Use arty

[fickle cove]

but SOMEHOW japan's army is just stronger

[viscid stirrup]

Planes are good

[lament swan]

oh god the boarder gore

[fickle cove]

i don't think i have artillery in my templates

[viscid stirrup]

Add them

[fickle cove]

would be great if i could produce enough planes in time right?

[viscid stirrup]

An arty a day keeps the enemies at bay

[viscid stirrup]

Would be nice yeah

[fickle cove]

btw since you're so confident

can i ask you what's the most impressive thing you did in hoi4

like for example beat germany as luxembourg idk

[viscid stirrup]

World conquest as tanna tuva

[fickle cove]

you're kidding.

did you actually do that?

[viscid stirrup]

Well not exactly world conquest

[fickle cove]

ik it's a popular hoi4 meme

[viscid stirrup]

Some south american countries escaped

But yeah i got all the majors

[fickle cove]

how though??

the ussr alone is not only your overlord

it has hundreds of divisions

[viscid stirrup]

The most important part is defeating the ussr

Then you unify siberia and everything goes smoothly

[fickle cove]

alr but just tell me

have you ever beaten japan as china?

[viscid stirrup]

You dont actually have to defeat ussr

[fickle cove]

and if so, did you do it before the recent update or after?

[viscid stirrup]

What you have to do is get free manpower from marxs picture and make like 15 ok divisions

Then declare war on ussr after building forts in yourself and building railroads in west ussr

Those clankers will keep bashing against your line giving free war support

Then germany will swoop in and take all the victory points, while you have a nice 30% of war score

[sharp sierra]

just do hatlessspiders paradrop france strat

[viscid stirrup]

Use it to buy siberia and expand your cores

[sharp sierra]

i also did that for commie china in the latest update

[viscid stirrup]

Then you can attack japan

And china

Now you have all of asia while the allies and axis are still beating each other up

Build a navy, invade the US

[sharp sierra]

i dont think he wants to read this he was asking about china

[viscid stirrup]

Ive never played china in my entire life

[viscid stirrup]

Keep one allied major barely alive and attack germany so the germans dont get everything in peace deal

[viscid stirrup]

Make sure to capitulate the allies and axis at the same day

So there arent seperate peace conferences

[fickle cove]

bruh

[sharp sierra]

my tip for china is just turn ahistorical on and hope japan doesnt attack in 1937

[fickle cove]

but i want the awake and angry achievement

can i achieve it with ahistorical?

[main rover]

Yes you can

It just has to be Iron Man and standard difficulty(the default) or above.

[fickle cove]

got it thx

[main rover]

Historical or ahistorical doesnt affect achievements as I recall.

[fickle cove]

well i'm in the middle of a historical game rn but let's just see how i do

japan just started invading

[sharp sierra]

yea i think its not as hard as old china

[main rover]

Going for Woman in the High Castle So is Victoria a better leader or is Eva Braun? If so then how do I get her? I have all the dlc.
If I remember right, I think you have to have Wilhelm II denied but it may have changed. (For Victoria that is)

[fickle cove]

i think it's HARDER lol

[safe wing]

Old China from my experience wasn’t hard either

I peaced out Japan in 1938

[sharp sierra]

maybe it was just cause i was a newish player back when i tried historical old china

[main rover]

Maybe.

[safe wing]

I had 4 armies of 24 divs plus a coast army

[sharp sierra]

that playthrough is probably what made me want to always turn ahistorical on for china

[main rover]

Anyone know how to get Victoria as Germany since gotterdammerung?

[safe wing]

1 of the 4 armies was a mobile defense force that would throw the Japanese back into the sea

[safe wing]

Yes

[fickle cove]

wait but one question

if japan won't invade me

how can i fight japan

[sharp sierra]

attack them

[fickle cove]

OH RIGHT I CAN INVADE THEM LOLLLLLLL

so i can still unify china then right?

[sharp sierra]

i think theyre scriped to give peace once u capture the peninsula

[main rover]

Is she a better leaeder than say Eva Braun I know those are the only two female leaders for germany iirc.

[safe wing]

Go down the left side of the Welt politk branch

[fickle cove]

thank goodness

[safe wing]

There is a third

[fickle cove]

so like finland after some time right?

[main rover]

Really?

[sharp sierra]

yea but honestly just paradrop them and send 2 armies in there

[safe wing]

The communist one but Victoria is better than both

[jolly escarp]

uhm what

[main rover]

Do I need to have wilhems return denied or no?

[safe wing]

Yes

Just delete the 15 surviving civil war divisions

[main rover]

tysm

[safe wing]

NP

[main rover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1k4p0nl/tips_for_imperial_germany_woman_in_the_high_castle/ was following this and it said not to delete the army so I was unsure.

[fickle cove]

japan or korea?

[sharp sierra]

japan once u get kroea

[main rover]

Also choose to not go after wilhem or do I declare war on the netherlands?

[fickle cove]

i repelled the japanese naval invasion into shandong yay

[main rover]

Nice

[fickle cove]

screw this i'm doing the ahistorical thingy

[main rover]

Fair

[sharp sierra]

its nice to get all the territories and have nobody mess with you

maybe set sinkiang to go normal though

u can set countries to go historical and it will still be achievement compatible

[fickle cove]

wait so if i change game rules it can still be achievement-compatible?

[sharp sierra]

only if youre setting them to go historical

but you cant set uk to go communist or anything

itll have the trophy cup icon next to what you can do

[fickle cove]

there is nothing for sinkiang

[safe wing]

Don’t go after Wilhelm II

[sharp sierra]

oh rlly

[main rover]

Ty

[sharp sierra]

that sucks

they kept becoming ussr's puppet and shit

[fickle cove]

nah it's all good

[fickle cove]

when do they usually become ussr's puppet?

i can wipe them out in late 1936/early 1937

[sharp sierra]

idk i dont think it ususally happens

they did in my game so i had to do this

[fickle cove]

oh

[quasi robin]

average day of getting called the hard r and told to kill myself in mp1 by random europeans :)

[fickle cove]

what just happened...?

[limber arrow]

Does anyone know how to make a good division for china

Im playing Sichuan clique

[unkempt zodiac]

guys..

[hollow silo]

cav or inf
chinese warlord are poor asf

[ripe slate]

This is why you dont play Ironman

[unkempt zodiac]

what do i even begin doing in this scenario bro

im literally killing naval invasions every 5 seconds

how am i even supposed to invade the uk LET ALONE THE US

[ripe slate]

It looks like youll be taking the port right of London

[unkempt zodiac]

nope

[ripe slate]

targetting 3 ports at once was suicide regardless

[unkempt zodiac]

there were 13 divisions waiting right behind there

[ripe slate]

try targetting 1 port and having the bulk of your units land on the tiles around it to encircle it

[unkempt zodiac]

i did try

they have WAY too much divisions bro

they push me right back

[ripe slate]

Does look like that yeh

maybe make some of those insanely good marine templates

[unkempt zodiac]

i did

but still

what do i even do 😭

its 1945

[rigid pollen]

as of today I have determined it is impossible to survive as Yugoslavia against the axis

[random snow]

any objections for this multiplayer panzer template?

[unkempt zodiac]

i like signals but this is nice

[random snow]

i am going for a nice blend for anti tank and infantry roles

i have the industry to keep up with losses to so i take it is a good template?

[unkempt zodiac]

yeah tgis is good

[slim idol]

Yeah you gotta do it early

[random snow]

i know its not meta but if it works thats all that matters

[unkempt zodiac]

dude i CANT

by the time i start a counteroffensive the us already joins

[slim idol]

It was easy until they reworked navy

[ripe slate]

🤷‍♂️ I usually finish my games by 1943

[azure walrus]

what paths can i get without a civil war as germany in twr

[hollow silo]

do all the branch in internal politics and u can select the successor depends on their influence

[restive sable]

rate the iran

[azure walrus]

ik but not every path is accessible through that

which ones are?

[azure walrus]

your persian empire is: great, keep up the good work 👍

[hollow silo]

iirc it should br goebbels speer bormann heydrich himmler goring

[slim idol]

Always nice when games go historical

[restive sable]

pretty historical game i must say

[azure walrus]

i read somewhere that you can also get manstein

yk what ill js play the game

[limber arrow]

How many cav or inf

Battalions

[hollow silo]

i rarely play twr lel

[snow rain]

1 - it's too big
2 - no logistic
3 - no flame tank
4 - no armored signal for TD buff
5 - not heavy tanks
6 - useless maintenance company
7 - not heavy tank destroyers all across the board
8 - not enough mech, this div has awful HP
9 - generally low stats compared to the high cost

example of german/soviet tanks in mp

[hollow silo]

i prefer 3-6

[snow rain]

(no hospital because individual excellence doctrine gives HP through logi)

[limber arrow]

6 infantry battalions?

I think thats pretty awful

[hollow silo]

u know u begin with less than 5 mil fac right?

[limber arrow]

I have 20 now

[snow rain]

inf must be at bare minimum of 12 width (6inf)

otherwise it has too low HP and stats for anything

[strong umbra]

should I use cavalry with cossack Poland cav buffs?

[red fable]

Im such an idiot i accidentally made the default planes as the soviets and entered the war with 3k shitter planes that are useless

Idk how i won that either

[strong umbra]

what is the best grand doctrine for cavalry?

[red fable]

Dumbass AI left the baltics empty and i js surrounded the entire eastern front 😭

[red fable]

Cavalry?? 😭

[strong umbra]

I wanna do a cavalry only run

[snow rain]

as for all units, GBP (attack) or SFP (defence)

[maiden bolt]

ngl the new navy mechanics sucks ass

[snow rain]

the naval homebase or the supremacy rework ?

because one was in the OG release while the other is new

[strong umbra]

are u srs? gbp for attack and sfp for defense?

elaborate

[limber arrow]

This what you want_

[snow rain]

GBP gives you A LOT of coordination (meaning you knock out defending units way kicker because you concentrate the attacks)

SFP gives you a LOT of recovery rate (meaning you recover org so much faster) + you consume less supply

[snow rain]

ditch the engi, add support AA in priority (to not die to air against japan) and add support arty after (1938 arty only) to get some stats

engi cost half of the div there

[strong umbra]

if u are china with inf manpower then why tf do u have eng?

[snow rain]

engi don't affect manpower

[limber arrow]

6 divisions enough or what

[maiden bolt]

the naval supremacy domiance. they could of left the navy mechanics alone but they had to change it 💔

i like the old one better

[snow rain]

yeah, that I didn't get

I like the home base though because it avoids navies TP from accross the world

[limber arrow]

Is this okay

[snow rain]

ditch 3 inf and it's perfect

[maiden bolt]

Perfect timing

[stoic yarrow]

wher is lfg

[tulip thorn]

If you are looking for mp games, look at #historical-multiplayer #alt-history-multiplayer #1239926537512292362

[strong umbra]

got flagged for a msg

Im back again tho

I meant like u have like 5 mills as china

but inf mp

jusr make pure infantry blocks

[strong umbra]

I prefer 9

more hp

9 battalions not divisions

[snow rain]

you'll need AA though, or you'll inevitably die

[strong umbra]

hmm?

I've never had that problem before

if I make enough the ai just won't attack me

[snow rain]

japan is going to CAS you
and that's gonna kill you if you don't add support AA

at least it used to pre NCNS

[strong umbra]

right

and i have ncns

and before that just inf also worked fine for me

[snow rain]

dunno how exactly ai japan behave with it

[strong umbra]

I dont play mp tho

so

that doesnt say much

abt pure inf working

[strong umbra]

I think yhe navy rework just kinda messed Japan ai up

they have like 1-3 divisions on each tile while Chinese faction has lile 8

[heavy vigil]

helloo

[slim idol]

I killed china with 1-2 divisions on each tile as the communist japan

[strong umbra]

ye but ai Is scared

plus im playing china

well ccp

but still

[upper shuttle]

What historical accuracy mods do you guys recommend?

[prisma saddle]

finnaly amde something good with italy

[grizzled yarrow]

Anarchist spain is an interesting concept.

[glad forum]

Lord of the rings mod

[upper shuttle]

very funny

[jaunty delta]

black ice

[viscid mason]

Hey guys does anyone know what the max cores states for China/Japan/Manchuria in NCNS. I don't have the dlcs to find out.

[rancid pebble]

https://www.paxhistoria.co/presets/bvdPrZYoVATEJ0AvlDWX?versionID=4 pls check out my pax playset if you play it

[upper shuttle]

is the A Roman World mod good or is it unfinished?

[limber arrow]

Ncns 2 mega edition

[random snow]

Does the total war casualty count for a country count air and naval casualties?

[ripe slate]

0/10, doesnt represent all the 2242 war lords in real life /s

[chilly trout]

what type of ligth tank template should i use to crush ai i was starting to go with ligth artyllery tank but im kinda lost in my div template cause i got like 10 org

[fair horizon]

Not light tanks

[chilly trout]

medium?

[fair horizon]

medium spgs crush

[chilly trout]

alr thank

like i put 8 tank unit and some mechanized

[fair horizon]

Sounds good enough

Just make sure you have fuel for them

[chilly trout]

alr thank you

[random snow]

well pop goes the royal navy

how tf did they build a battleship while i was bombing them relentlessly

[shut sigil]

Show some mercy 😭

[fair horizon]

cause they only take 5 dockyards to have maximum efficiency

[shut sigil]

Were you on tac bombing docks or port strike?

Cuz as far as I know port strike only works on already deployed ships and not ones currently under construction

[fair horizon]

port strike damages ships not dockyards

[random snow]

tac bombs on port strike with the new medium torpedos i have put on them and strat bombs going on the dockyards