hoi4-general

[vale dagger]

assuming historical

[glass python]

Yes

[slim nexus]

Covert notbbuild

[glass python]

Ok so should I covert like 80 percent of my civs to military

[kind vale]

Even non historical you dont

USA literally starts with 300 civs

[glass python]

Cap

[kind vale]

No

[kind vale]

Its not

[glass python]

Then what

[vale dagger]

well if he was going for like suuuper late war

1950

[kind vale]

Still dont need to make civs

[glass python]

Wah I do

[kind vale]

300 is more than enough

[kind vale]

Make mils and dockyards

[vale dagger]

ok only 150 civs thats fine

[glass python]

I’m making bunch of Mils and docks

[vale dagger]

yeah maybe convert 30-40 then make mils

[glass python]

But it’s 1939

I need to ramp it up

[vale dagger]

if ur doing both fronts balance

[glass python]

No

[kind vale]

No dont convert civs to mills

Just make new mils

[glass python]

I’m going to focus on the pacific first

[vale dagger]

r u off isolation and depression?

[slim nexus]

Yes make new mils

[kind vale]

Why waste civs

[vale dagger]

conversion is faster

[glass python]

No I’m not getting the war support for sum reason

[kind vale]

Its slower in the long run

[vale dagger]

equipment much more important for him

[glass python]

I can’t get the focus

Without the war support

[kind vale]

You lose civs that make buildings so you cant make as much

[glass python]

I’m at 31%

[vale dagger]

you need war support or wold tension

[kind vale]

Dont convert

Just make new mils

[vale dagger]

duh but the cheaper ic cost is better for him specifically

[glass python]

So I have to wait till hitler invades

[vale dagger]

cos hes america

[kind vale]

No its not

[glass python]

So no convert

[vale dagger]

yeha and make sure you have enough pp to do it asap

[glass python]

Or yes

[kind vale]

No

Just make new mils

[glass python]

Ok

[kind vale]

No need to weaken your ability to make buildings

[glass python]

This is only my third run as America the last two I failed

So thanks for helping

[vale dagger]

what did you fail in

specifially

[kind vale]

How did you fail

[glass python]

D day and I was late

[vale dagger]

cause america is lots of stuff to do

[kind vale]

It literally doesn't

[vale dagger]

was russia dead when you invaded?

[glass python]

Russian capitulated as I was trying to do D-Day

[vale dagger]

yea fair maybe go a bit earlier

[glass python]

So i knew I failed

[vale dagger]

makes it much easier

[glass python]

Yea

Now I know

[kind vale]

Even if the ussr caps you dont fail

[maiden verge]

You dont need, you are US and you are in a stable situation. Convert is preferably used in critical moments, either by a small economy or late game when you can support the cost

[glass python]

Well it’s harder to fight back

[kind vale]

Germany and Japan are incapable of invading you

[kind vale]

Not entirely

[glass python]

Well it’s whatever

New run

I’m not converting I’ll let you guys know what happens here in 10 minutes

[vale dagger]

idk how people play america

so boring

[maiden verge]

Its a okay ish country to play

[kind vale]

Make mils till late 1938 to mid 1939 then make dockyards for a year or 2 then switch back to making mils

[kind vale]

Theres some mods that make it actually enjoyable

[vale dagger]

its fun when after depression and isolation but the way you get rid of it vanilla is so boring\

like you just wait for the timer so

[viral summit]

Whats everyones TOP 5 mods

[maiden verge]

Its great depression for a reason

[viral summit]

TFR

[vale dagger]

i get that america has to be nerfed early game but surely devs can think of a mroe fun way to do it

[kind vale]

Im talking for ww2

[maiden verge]

Unless you are kaiserredux that gives you 500 buffs in 1 year, its normal that takes a while to get rid of both isolation and depression

[viral summit]

R56

[kind vale]

Its decent but theres better mods

[viral summit]

Vanilla+

[kind vale]

Haven't heard of that one

[viral summit]

HOI4 expanded

Etc etc

So many mods

[kind vale]

Usa rework

Was a good one

[viral summit]

Yup

[maiden verge]

1 - Kaiserreich
2 - Red Flood
3 - R56
4 - OWB
5 - The Great War (Redux)

[vale dagger]

red flood good

[kind vale]

Whats red flood

[viral summit]

KR is king, TGWR is horrible dude, have u seen whats been going on?

[maiden verge]

I only made it 5 because was the last one besides the others I played

Im not into TGWR, what happened?

[viral summit]

Search TGWR on youtube

Like full name

You’ll see

[viral summit]

Theyve dissapeared recently though

[vale dagger]

top result is isorrow saying its good

[maiden verge]

Abstract mod that no one won the Great War, basically. Imagine all the art movements post-1900 becoming part of politics

[viral summit]

Theres that video by

Its called “The Great War Redux is honestly disgusting”

[viral summit]

Schizo mod TLDR

[vale dagger]

i hope you built industry in the urals

[warped flint]

MOD

mod

[vale dagger]

well yeah

[maiden verge]

I saw, and honestly its nothing much though

Another mod that was consumed by a dev dictatorship

That doesnt accept criticism and whatever

[viral summit]

Eh a bit more extreme

Im pretty sure the head dev denied like multiple genocides in public chat

And then said the n word

[maiden verge]

Why Im not surprised

[slim nexus]

Which

[vale dagger]

great war mod

allegedly

[maiden verge]

(redux)

[slim nexus]

Imen which genocides

[kind vale]

If I kick the nationalists out of Cordoba and Sevilla will they be able to push the Spanish at all?

Im playing as the ussr

[maiden verge]

Pretty much you make things easier for republicans

[kind vale]

I just need the war to last till they do the focus to become my puppet

[maiden verge]

At least in all the runs that I helped the republicans through south, the nationalists couldn't push any further in north

[kind vale]

Alright

Thanks

[warped flint]

yeah probably

if you do help

try to break out around that area in galaica

be carefull you dont get encircled, the ai runs out of equipment like everygame i do

[kind vale]

Ive got tanks and im not putting them in places where they'll get encircled

Just helping the Spanish hold the line rn

[slim nexus]

which one should I get? Kaiserreich or Kaiserredux ?

[fair horizon]

owb

[slim nexus]

what does that mean

[fair horizon]

old world blues

[slim nexus]

Owb is exat opposite of tno cuz the new order, old world blues
Old / new
World / order
Blue / orDER aka REDro

[karmic gyro]

I wish I had the money for the dlcs because I want them but I can’t

[ripe slate]

They go on progressively larger sales

[slim nexus]

im bannmed om kaikserreich discord but when i capitulate austria as hungary after austria goes union path the game crashes wheni click on any peacedeal territoriy

??? do i have to annex all of austriahungary with cheats if thathappens

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[ember vine]

Dey better lower the prices for TOA and NCNS

How do I get notified of sales?

[ripe slate]

Put the items on your wishlist

[ember vine]

Ight

[sudden raptor]

whats some good mods to make my life easier?

[cedar lance]

hello yalls wassup

[late trout]

hi

[untold current]

hi

[sudden loom]

hola mi mejor amigo

[untold current]

yes

[sudden loom]

how you doin

[untold current]

good, how about you?

[sudden loom]

good im trying to learn hearts of iron 4 its very very difficult for me

[untold current]

ok

[sudden raptor]

is ther any way to only let my tanks use one of my 2 types of heavy tanks?

it just says basic heavy tank

[kind vale]

is hoi4 an effective way to break the addiction of war thunder

[gritty crystal]

No

[pseudo raven]

It is like replacement of bad with worst

[pseudo raven]

Check province modifiers

[spiral axle]

Helo guys

[pseudo raven]

Hi

[spiral axle]

What's up?

[pseudo raven]

-20

[spiral axle]

What does it mean 🙏

[cedar lance]

hello sago

welcome

@spiral axle

[spiral axle]

Hi

[cedar lance]

wassup

[spiral axle]

Normal listening Sagopa

[chrome mulch]

Difficult for everyone. I recommend you just watch a tutorial and then just figure it out and ask Google

[cedar lance]

alr

[cedar lance]

alr nice

[spiral axle]

ty

[cedar lance]

np

[spiral axle]

how are you?

[cedar lance]

im good

[spiral axle]

good

[cedar lance]

i like making in hoi4 historical/Real life templates

[spiral axle]

I trying to find get Hoi4 for free :p

I searching since 2022

ı broke lol

[cedar lance]

alr

XD

idk why HOI4 costs SO MUCH

[spiral axle]

Yeah blud ı need dlcs too

Why

[cedar lance]

alr

[spiral axle]

its a game blud

[cedar lance]

it costs 50 euros

for me in europe

[spiral axle]

its only game

not included dlcs

🥀

[cedar lance]

yes ik

[sudden raptor]

iis this bugged? im still producing bf109s

[pseudo raven]

Bad

[spiral axle]

oky ı wish you will get good

[untold current]

are you the real teto?

[pseudo raven]

Yes

[untold current]

im done

[uneven portal]

hoi4 ps5 edition when

[sudden raptor]

yall think 100 divs and 14 meta tanks are enuff for poland? 😭

[shut sigil]

Nein

You need to nuke em as well to have a remote chance of winning

Also how do you have 14 "meta" tanks pre war?

[sudden raptor]

retrofitting

i basically made very many good tanks with bad radio and bad guns and retrofitted the good ones once i unlocked them

then made this template

romania doesnt want to give me the land? war is on

[crude schooner]

the biggest success of the hoi4 discord is the fact that we have these emojis

[crude schooner]

"carol II abdicates"

[sudden raptor]

boohooo

11 mills is crazy

[versed copper]

https://youtu.be/YUGu0hYXweY

I wasn't that old during that time in the 2000s during the Afghan war.

[sudden raptor]

i always findit funny when it syas "end of theleague of nations" like i havent alr invaded half the allys

time for maginot

[rare sand]

does refusing to give the soviets eastern poland mean they'll reject the tank treaty?

[sudden raptor]

just give them poland tbh

less garrissons

[shut sigil]

Oh shit yeah I forgot about that (kinda funny considering doing that with 2 production lines was my fav strat)

[sudden raptor]

they coiuld also declare war on you 😭

and early germany is in NO way able to win that easily

[sudden raptor]

[pinged the wrong person mb

[sudden raptor]

.

[shut sigil]

Yeah I understood that lol

Still though

Getting the western European industry early on is peak

[patent thistle]

i am gonna try and beat the british navy while abiding by the versailles naval limits, 6 battleships (+2 reserve pre-dreadnoughts), 6 light cruisers (+2 Reserve cruisers), 24 Destroyers (technically 12 destroyers and 12 torpedo boats but they arent any in game) (+8 reserves)

and for tonnage, i am doing the production cost (battleships = 10000 maxt, Light cruisers = 6000 maxt, destroyers 800 maxt)

[sudden raptor]

how bro 😭

how do you want to beat it

[patent thistle]

good designs

replacements of ships were allowed after all under the treaty

[sudden raptor]

good designs dont matter when ur getting fked by 10capital ships and 300 screens

[patent thistle]

the AI usually doesnt stack its fleet anymore

[sudden raptor]

what do you mean by beat tho

destroy it or just naval invade

[patent thistle]

slowly wittle it down

[sudden raptor]

ah

[patent thistle]

refits are going to be king here

[sudden raptor]

so you have the navy youget plus versailles?

so navy thats alr made +navy that abides versailles

[patent thistle]

most of the german navy (- the subs) abides anyways

the pre-dreadnoughts are considered reserve

[sudden raptor]

no i mean is ur entire navy abiding the versailles treaty or are the ships that you alr get with the germans seperate from the ones your building

[patent thistle]

and i am going to delete what i cant easily refit

[patent thistle]

the entire navy

[sudden raptor]

ah

[patent thistle]

panzerschiffe are considered battleships in this (due to them litterally being called "pocket battleships"=)

[sudden raptor]

what are your plans for ground tho? just regular or build up the navy first

[sudden raptor]

panzerschiffe means "tank boats"

but yeah basically capitals

[patent thistle]

ye but irl it was considered pocket battleships due to its guns being a 11 inch (the same as the scharnhorst class)

[sudden raptor]

ye

[patent thistle]

refits are going clutch here

[green lodge]

How do you guys even do the Civil War as Spain ?
It is just so painfully slogfest

[patent thistle]

i am basically gonna delete a large part of the fleet considering a lot of it is early cruisers and early destroyers

[sudden raptor]

yeah the new dlcs made it way harder to finish, it takes way longer like 2-3 years

[green lodge]

I had them encircled but they attacked me and boom i got absolutely slapped

It's somehow worse than the Afghanistani Civil War 🥀
Why do they hate SPain that much

[sudden raptor]

its called (s)pain for a reason

[sudden raptor]

will you only build scharnhorst and bismark class or keep the pockets

[green lodge]

i did forget to train new troops though so that might be a problem
BUT NAH, It

[patent thistle]

i will most likely go pocket battleships only here due to how they are faster

they are able to run if the engagement sucks

[sudden raptor]

screens are gonnabe ur main wining factor tho

u gonnabe using recon planes?

[patent thistle]

another plus for pocket battleships due to how they are able to get into engagements then faster

[astral turret]

is vanilla hoi4 to anyone crashing these past week?

[patent thistle]

even with the treaty of versailles naval limits i will still invade poland first, thats inevitable

[safe wing]

Not on my end no?

[astral turret]

starting my great iran game and the moment i start a new war it starts to freeze and unfreeze forever

[safe wing]

It crashes whenever I play as Tsarist Russia and declare on the Baltics or Finland

But when I reload it works fine

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[cursive oxide]

hello

[cedar lance]

wassup spel

[winter widget]

german ai so shit pls balance

[night field]

what do i even do?

[crude scroll]

Spain's civil war is easy bro

[opal nymph]

Invade the Soviets

[sudden thistle]

What goofy ahh bloat mod are u using

[night field]

the soviets have around 1k divisions and im dying in italy because of my allies eating the supply

[cedar lance]

should i spam out a lot loads of CHEAP and easy to train divs?

[opal nymph]

What are your offensive divisions?

[opal nymph]

Your choice

If they suck, then don't

[cedar lance]

alr

should i make a faction as estonia

[cursive oxide]

can i get some help in vetting 1 pls ?

[opal nymph]

Oh you are estonia?

That is going to be a mess

[cedar lance]

yes

ill Be honest: i do use console commands as Estonia in SP

[night field]

this is my tank division

[cedar lance]

becus its fun for ME

[fervent wadi]

chat i finally beat soviet on germany

my playtime is 190h 😭

[cedar lance]

@opal nymph

[night field]

and my air is shit (i take 20-1 losses in air)

[opal nymph]

Then there shouldn't be any problems lol

[green lodge]

Burn him

[quasi osprey]

The falangist poland focus path has three focuses inviting different nations to the faction do the countries have to be fascist to join just half the countries rejected or is it a 50 50 chance?

The only focus from the three that completely worked was the south American one

[steel zephyr]

First time seeing all three baltic states have the same communist civil war at the exact same time

[oak mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/communism-gif-14259337744253290770

[sudden thistle]

Going the wrong way around

[cerulean lynx]

bomb britain into oblivion

[azure palm]

france in a nuttshell

[oak mantle]

No theyre going the right way round

[cerulean lynx]

bro wtf

bro stop

[crude schooner]

i have 1280 hours and i have beaten the soviets only 3 times out of my 100's of attempts

[patent thistle]

officially reached my limit set

(panzerschiffe)

[serene breach]

it worked

[heavy vigil]

didnt versailles like

limit by manpower

[serene breach]

until yugoslavia rushed to my capital

[heavy vigil]

and then they gave concessions but after concessions its easy

[patent thistle]

i did a lighter version of only doing the naval limits

i do true versailes soon

[heavy vigil]

its pretty fun

you can choose between like 2 coast guard divs or like 8 CLs

maybe less i kinda forgot

which should be enough to win naval battles against split up fleets

if you wanna stretch the definitions you could make 1 converted cruiser carrier hull?

[vague sedge]

which path should i go mussolini or italo balbo or dino grandi

decide

[patent thistle]

CLs are counted under the naval limits of versailes tho

free spanish puppet = when war starts 2 free battleships

[heavy vigil]

yes

[patent thistle]

6 light cruisers + 2 reserves

[heavy vigil]

sorry

cant do carriers

limits were 6 light cruisers, 12 destroyers, 12 torpedo boats, or an equal number of ships constructed to replace them as provided in Article l90. Submarines (U-boats) were specifically prohibited. The Navy had to be limited to 15,000 officers and men. All military and naval aviation had to be terminated.

after you get the cruisers youre mostly through the manpower limit tho

[patent thistle]

dont forget the 6 battleships

[heavy vigil]

thats like 6K? 8K?

[heavy vigil]

you dont have the manpower

[patent thistle]

the manpower for the navy and army are 2 diffrent sectors in the treaty

[heavy vigil]

yes

navy is 15K

with the way hoi4 works you are not allowed that many battleships

[patent thistle]

navy is 15k, army is 100k tho it can be argued that the changed version of 250k is allowed

[heavy vigil]

because you dont have the manpower to run them

100K for army is so sad

i tried it once and grinded kurt student

you get like 10 divisions its pretty cooked

i didnt try barb but i took western europe (not uk)

also imo

transport planes are allowed as non-military type aircraft

[patent thistle]

no shit why do you think the german populace was pissed. litterally belgium could easily have a bigger army

[heavy vigil]

well you get 115K in total

thats pretty good

youre allowed to spend the navy manpower on ground crews/garrisons

if you want to

[patent thistle]

ye they were also a great way to bypass the treaty in a way to train pilots

also fun fact: that with the german navy was very much intentional, make it weak enough to not be a threat, but make it just strong enough so the soviets dont get any funny ideas

[patent thistle]

ye thats why i dont consider manpower in the naval count due to how its structured

i want to doupt that the panzerschiffe had a crew of over 1k

[heavy vigil]

i counted it as part of restrictions

otherwise its so easy

[patent thistle]

.

[heavy vigil]

in hoi ship mp count includes ground crews so

just like

[patent thistle]

appearantly i was wrong in that aspect

[heavy vigil]

if you dont count it its really easy to win the naval war

[patent thistle]

still like 400 men more then the actual ships had tho

[heavy vigil]

just make 6 CLs and some destroyers

its gonna be the most efficient per manpower

step 1

delete most ships

step 2 exercise the ramaining ships

step 3 queue up your new fleet with limited but same dockyards per ship so they come out the same time

[patent thistle]

ye but the pre-dreadnoughts have way less irl so. (in game they have like 3.2k)

[heavy vigil]

then delete the old navy just before theyre done

[patent thistle]

then again they are considered the allowed reserve meaning they wouldnt get crewed at all

[steel zephyr]

Managed so snatch this (Finland) in Soviet Civil war

soon going to invade the other soviets to snatch Olonets, Onega and Murmansk

[patent thistle]

why didnt you take eastern karelia?

[steel zephyr]

part of the other soviet faction

[heavy vigil]

go to war with both

[steel zephyr]

if I would then I would 100% take it instead of the states south of St Peters

[heavy vigil]

everything you occupy and dont peacedeal annex counts towards the other's surrender progress

[patent thistle]

.

[heavy vigil]

yeah

id just stick to limit since its more challenging

[steel zephyr]

I lwk just want to killfarm soviets like I did in my other run

capture Neva-Svir border then achieve another 200:1 kdr

[patent thistle]

i am already using panzerschiffe (those which were allowed by the allies since they were under the limit set by versailles) instant of battleships so eh

[heavy vigil]

they both arent that great but make your navy so much stronger

i dont rlly like it

[patent thistle]

i did refit them. i like them because of their range and ability to absorb punishment a little better usually (because in my experience they get hit far less)

[heavy vigil]

you cant just cheat the treaties smh

[patent thistle]

thats pretty much exactly what germany did-

even when they were "technically" still under the treaty

[heavy vigil]

i know lol

[patent thistle]

the treaty did for example not specify milita or paramilitaries lol

[heavy vigil]

ohh wait

thats OP

if you are allowing yourself all the militia units

[heavy vigil]

and with OP i mean like significantly more playable

[patent thistle]

just one example

[heavy vigil]

whats your opinion on recon tanks

is it cheating too hard

[patent thistle]

never tried them

technically you could just invade the dutch and train troops through them and the dutch east indies

[amber matrix]

ah yes, suport

[heavy vigil]

you wouldnt cheat on versailles

[patent thistle]

versailes didnt specify that you couldnt invade the dutch, only the belgians were under protection

also i am pretty sure troops seized dont count to your manpower cap

[heavy vigil]

not that

but like

the more you game it the less challenging it is

[patent thistle]

ye

but again thats exactly what germany did

it systematically hollowed out the treaty

[heavy vigil]

well yeah but youre not OTL germany

youre hoi4 germany doing a challenge

[patent thistle]

eitherway if i do my true versailles run i will not count the naval manpower limit due to how its structured, i want to atleast produce my panzerships

change my mind: the irl königsberg class sucked very much

the ingame one aint much better

also at this point i would have definetly broken more then just a few military treaties, (preemptive invasion of poland) (old screenshot)

[quasi osprey]

The falangist poland focus path has three focuses inviting different nations to the faction do the countries have to be fascist to join just half the countries rejected or is it a 50 50 chance? Some other countries have similar focuses but they say that if they won't accept they need to become fascist but these focuses dont say that.

[heavy vigil]

well yeah bu tin hoi the challenge is to win ww2 under the restrictions

and not like cheat/remilitarize

thats how i see it

[swift pendant]

@grave phoenix can u unban us mate

u banned us for no reason literally

and u blocked me wtf

[quasi osprey]

being on volunteer only and having 120 divs just shows the potential of poland

considering that I blocked the Germans from the soviets kinda makes me feel like I will be a road bump in 1941😭

[patent thistle]

CAN THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BE FIXED AT SOME POINT THAT ITALY JUST RANDOMLY DECLEARS ON SWITZERLAND??

[cunning saddle]

Road to 67 when

[quasi osprey]

being poland and cassually training 55 cavalry divs and limited just by manpower is crazy

it is strange that its 1940 and germany hasnt attacked norway and denmark yet

[patent thistle]

thanks for the free experience norwegian navy

[patent thistle]

road to 33 when?

[quasi osprey]

[patent thistle]

try to steal hungary off germany

before it can join the axis

[quasi osprey]

yay

yay

well thats not very nice soviets

[safe wing]

Road to 45

Or 46

[heavy vigil]

can you make road to 2056?

[quasi osprey]

polska forever

[heavy vigil]

or road to stellaris if you will

[safe wing]

How about Road to 1856

[heavy vigil]

also is this lore accurate

[warped flint]

im gonna try the ragnarok mod

[patent thistle]

shall the sachsen now be hunted down for forever?

[vague abyss]

guys why cant i trade as china

[obtuse lodge]

bruh wtf i literally capped them now the areas not even mine

[eternal aspen]

are you in ze axis powers?

[obtuse lodge]

ye

[eternal aspen]

just invade them again

you can even get Lebanon, because Vichy France is only guarenteed by germany, but bc you're in the axis they wont be able to join

[grand bear]

glory to finland

[warped flint]

I encircled bohemia

[steel zephyr]

kola cleared up but sadly the germans invaded them too

the germans are my ally but i want to farm soviet kills

even with the commies in this sorry state I still managed to be their biggest killer

[shut sigil]

Yes

Till you in sink it in here and irl lool

[void crescent]

i finally won against poland

[warped flint]

here it comes

im getting my ahh demolished now

wait this is more diffiucltr then before, cause all the chinese warlord states get lend lease

so they can field a ginormous army

[clever spade]

yo can someone help me?

[stiff magnet]

Bro what is this?

[warped flint]

ragnarok

[hazy mesa]

is it just me or the game became so much harder for axis after new updates?

[hazy mesa]

german ai can barely push soviets and its front collapses in 1942

[fleet sable]

Yeah

I've seen Germany struggle with France sometimes

[warped flint]

the germans in my game get like 3 tiles in the soviet union, stale mate for a year then death

[dusky burrow]

just steal swiss gold then

annex them

game's about to become ridiculously hard for the soviet union btw

[astral turret]

Wtf happend u againts the world?!

[obtuse lodge]

how many divs do i need to hold this line?

[warped flint]

ragnarok mod

[astral turret]

Ah

Thoigh its vanila

[steel zephyr]

probably very trash but im just getting into the tech and want to destroy enemy air

[ripe slate]

heavy fighter is overpriced compared to light fighter I believe

Apparently only with jet engines they become more competitive

[serene breach]

add more defense i guess

[steel zephyr]

alr, all my air tech by the way

was finland so most of my tech went into support, arty and infantry

slopfest

[haughty bison]

As usual i forgot to make caloboration gov so Stalin has to watch my 200 inf div at his border lmao

[heavy vigil]

is this enough nuke strikes on the US

[heavy vigil]

why do you use the modules that kill your speed

it actively ruins your air trades so badly

[uncut pollen]

Communist?

More nukes

MORE NUKES

[steel zephyr]

honestly no reason, im just putting on random stuff until something works

[uncut pollen]

DEPLOY 1 QUINTILLION NUKES

[heavy vigil]

i have some in reserve

[uncut pollen]

DEPLOY

[haughty bison]

Patroling the mohave make you wish for nuclear winter

[serene breach]

is it thermonuclear ICBMS?

more THERMONUCLEARS! to cover every single state in america with Nuclear fallout

and destroy every single supply hub,civs,mils, and more to destroy their production,economy,stockpiles

[heavy vigil]

yes and some nuclear because state debuffs stack

[toxic igloo]

Can someone explain how i play this damn game

Lost to luxembourg as germany

[prisma saddle]

just a bit a of world tension

[toxic igloo]

Could u for god sake teach me

[proud tapir]

lowkey i predict the devs will change how air superiority works too, like they did with the naval superiority. An update to air in general

[proud tapir]

watch a lot of bittersteel guides

and general videos

[trim schooner]

might as well take the whole world bro

[prisma saddle]

tbh is the first time i did all that😭

[azure palm]

More.

Also is that Spanish?

[heavy vigil]

Não

[wary moon]

bro did annex command

[azure palm]

portugese?

[uncut pollen]

Olá Casey, eu gosto de cachorros e meninos bonitos.
(Hello casey, i like dogs and cute boys alot)

[heavy vigil]

sim

[proud tapir]

Bismarck if you can hear me, please grant supply to my infantry in Stalingrad

[azure walrus]

In the case of Germany losing control over Moskowien for an indefinite period of time, which of the four possible leaders of Moskowien has the best chance of succeeding should they join the Second Smuta with the goal to take Russia?

(TNO)

[desert blade]

Lowkey random ahh question but does anyone have hoi4 pretoria mod family guy that works

[proud tapir]

ah i was worried, confused and scared until you added that

[fair horizon]

bismarck if you can hear him dont because it would be equally as funny

[azure walrus]

glad to alleviate your fears

[pseudo raven]

Probably special forces doctrines too

So they look like regular doctrines

[fair horizon]

nah

or if they do it'll get fixed sooner rather than later because everyone uses planes and navy isnt popular

[serene breach]

ye

[dusky burrow]

don't put more engines than you need

[ember vine]

Please fix this

This is an abomination

Why don't I get war goals against Stalins USSR

They have the lands I'm looking for

Now I will cheat because the game is made idiotically

[split bane]

Because now the SOV tag is the other guys
You get war goals on the SOV tag, not who gets the land for... some reason
But if you wait until the civil war ends, you'll get the war goal on whoever wins

[ember vine]

The civil war will continue because Bukharin has a lot more troops

This is stupid

Why don't I have war goals against land owners

Paradox for gods sake fix this

[split bane]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ember vine]

We dont download this game for free

We pay we expect

[split bane]

Send a bug report in the PDX forums, devs don't check here

[frank estuary]

Is this winnable? I get extremely strong buffs, but the industry is lacking, to say the least.

[ember vine]

If they dont check there then whats the point

[split bane]

They don't check here they do check the forums

[ember vine]

Oh ok

Im blind

[uncut pollen]

Yes

[brittle cypress]

Yes lock in

[brittle cypress]

They don’t check here not there

[ember vine]

I know I got it

I got the wrong forum thread from frustration and I posted it in forum issues

I have anger issues

And HoI4 isn't helping

[eager heath]

Hey everyone, can you still get achievements after 1949?
I’ve read on the Paradox forums that it’s possible, but most of the answers I’ve found are from around 2018, so I’m not sure if it still works the same way.
I’m trying to get the “New World Order” achievement, but I’m really struggling to complete it before 1948 — I’m not very good at the game 😅

[eager heath]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-meme-gif-15729648030799980865

[dusky burrow]

i think so?

[versed copper]

:3

[uncut pollen]

:3

[prisma saddle]

my first world conquest

[heavy vigil]

update

[prisma saddle]

DAMN

[versed copper]

That why he is my favourite

[hazy mesa]

fr like tf they have done to this game? and those new army doctrines are stupid

i have played this game for 6 years and i feel like a noob now when playing italy

[serene breach]

nice i had 55M

[hazy mesa]

hoi4 was in its prime before NSB dlc

[ripe slate]

nah lol

for focus trees, even ones that arent fun too play add some AI variance (except for Switzerland AI which I detest)

[median juniper]

The game has gotten more complicated in many respects, but I'd say its also mostly improved for the better

[ripe slate]

making the AI slightly more competent is nice to see, same with better supply systems

I think most things I dislike predate NSB

[hazy mesa]

i agree its nice to see ai be more competent but germany is just disappointingly very weak and not even reaching its historical peak

its just a power to be laughed rn in the game

compared to previously capitulating soviets solo by 1943 and then losing to usa dday

[ripe slate]

Actually, BBA came after NSB, that I was quite disappointed with I must say

[hazy mesa]

i didnt like nsb because it made soviet union even more weaker and just not fun to play with all that paranoia thing and focus trees

and complicated tanks with tank designs

[ripe slate]

I feel like Im one of few people that hates on the Soviet tree for being repetitive

[hazy mesa]

which took me 2 years to learn properly

[ripe slate]

Designers are really easy if you just google the templates

[hazy mesa]

i figured that out

[ripe slate]

What I find the issue is that there is basically only 1 meta

Itd be nicer if there was some incentive to try different things

[serene breach]

POV: world if germany developed nukes in 1944

[hazy mesa]

hoi4 now feels like a ww1 simulator, not ww2

easy to defend, very hard to attack if you dont do metas

[verbal salmon]

Are you playing multiplayer or singleplayer

[hazy mesa]

singleplayer

thank god

[verbal salmon]

You feel its hard to attack?

[hazy mesa]

i just played italy,
made standard balanced medium tanks and decent template,
attacked soviet union along with germany,
saw soviets have 10 infantry divisions per tile so i made my tanks and divisions to be high in soft attack
had decent fighters and green air
attacked again and it kinda worked
soviets immediately pin me and spam millions of divisions so i couldnt do a thing
german ai brainlessly attacks on whole front losing all men and demanding me for some
left the game

all divisions have crazy amount of defense but very nerfed amount of soft attack

all since last updates

and new doctrine thing

[safe wing]

You made tanks as Italy? 💀

[hazy mesa]

i even needed to solo capitulate france

[hazy mesa]

so what

[verbal salmon]

Yeah tanks as Italy is an interesting play

[hazy mesa]

tanks were meta back in my day

[verbal salmon]

You could just battleplan tbh if you do 16 width INF spam w/ support companies or 36 width INF

[safe wing]

don’t infantry and mountaineers are better

As Italy

Tanks are good as Germany the USA and USSR

[hazy mesa]

yeah this whole game turned into "spam this, spam that"

[verbal salmon]

Yeah thats kinda how war worked

[safe wing]

How is that a problem I’m spamming units in medieval 2 to survive as Byzantium

[verbal salmon]

italy only made 3k tanks in ww2

[hazy mesa]

just do mass mob italy, go scraping the barrel, spam trillions of infs and win the game

how fun

[verbal salmon]

If you want to do Tanks play a different country

[heavy vigil]

this used to eb 50K-90K

[hazy mesa]

in like 1.10 i would do same tactic, build tanks with italy and could even make roman empire

[heavy vigil]

k/d before i peace them out

[safe wing]

Democratic Roman Empire

I did this last weekend

[hazy mesa]

minimum required autism to play this game just exceeded mine level

im sorry

you cant even win this game anymore with cheats like "research all" that easily

[unkempt orchid]

How did you achive this?

[jovial kite]

Seriously what was this notification

[verbal salmon]

#alt-history-multiplayer

[jovial kite]

I know but WHAT

[trim schooner]

my tonsil is inflamed

[jovial kite]

Probably the funniest and most out of context notification ever

[fair horizon]

chat does anyone have any effective low cost divisions for like minor nations?

[snow rain]

for what purpose

[fair horizon]

attacking

like i usually cant do anything without special forces

i am absolutely horrible at ground combat

[snow rain]

that's kinda the point
inf isn't made for attack

you need special forces or tanks

[plain isle]

anyone down for a non-his rn?

[snow rain]

mech also works well in singleplayer because of hardness

[snow rain]

#alt-history-multiplayer

[fair horizon]

right i get that

but like is there anything low cost like 4-5kish for early game attacks?

[snow rain]

SPGs

this is pre doctrine rework, 1936 german tech, no doctrine

it's 3k ic

now you do the same but with medium SPGs

[fair horizon]

i tried something like this on spain the other day and it just kinda sucked compared to my special forces

medium spgs

[snow rain]

you use cav instead of mech, regular engi and you smash anything for 5k ic

[fair horizon]

well ill give it another try

[snow rain]

did you pick the doctrines ? did you ensure you had enough breakthrough ?
did you attack without fuel ? in mountains without recon rangers ?

[fair horizon]

recon with flame tanks

even in plains tiles they just felt like wet tissue paper

[snow rain]

can't say what was wrong without screenshots tbf

[fair horizon]

do i need a different build for spgs? like do they use modules i wouldnt use in a regular tank?

cause i did 3 man turret with med howitzer 2 machine guns and radio

[snow rain]

armor skirts can be swapped for radio

[fair horizon]

ill give it another try and see if it works better

mabye i just messed up on doctrines or something

[snow rain]

must have been more than that

[fair horizon]

i mean it barely did more soft during fights than my mountaineers so it must have been

[snow rain]

my guess is lack of fuel in such description

[fair horizon]

could have been

[snow rain]

no fuel ? that's 95% of the stats down the drain (and speed capped at 1km/h

[fair horizon]

i was navymaxxing as per usual

[ornate marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1367128152954109992/1464994992048312472/VID_20260125_114354-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[modern torrent]

oh ok

[opaque atlas]

anyone knows how kamikaze works?

[opaque atlas]

what tech unlocks the fixed explosive module?

[fair horizon]

why are you bullying mexico?

[heavy vigil]

im not

im helping them

[fair horizon]

oh

i knew that

[heavy vigil]

the US is gone

i like nuked them earlier

killed 9 million USians

and now mexico will take them out

and do their stupid focus

[trim schooner]

#deathtoallamericans

[fair horizon]

we're called Americans

[heavy vigil]

USians

[fair horizon]

braZilians

[night field]

where are all these divisions

[fair horizon]

they named two continents over how awesome my country is

[night field]

nvm i got absolutely crushed within a year with 3 field marshals on poland

[silver eagle]

Should I even deploy this?

[ember vine]

Yoseppu Shitarinu

[vital cove]

shouldn't be

just because you aren't original enough to think of a country name

doesn't mean you need to steal the continent name

[fair horizon]

blame the italians

we manifest destinied them too

[vital cove]

typical American blaming other people

smh

[safe wing]

Prussian Infantry with a navy or Tanks as Kaiserin Victoria?

also I'm going to beeline war with Italy

[fair horizon]

we learned it from the british

[cedar monolith]

the silver legion of america sounds like a group of elderly evil villains

[noble turtle]

what the

[mystic gale]

left china on historical and i come back to this

[feral grove]

whats the name of the mod

for the graphics

[mystic gale]

it's just darkest hour map mode

[feral grove]

is thats a dlc?

[mystic gale]

wydm

[feral grove]

how do you get it

[mystic gale]

steam workshop

[feral grove]

thank you

is there a way just to get the graphics mod and not the whole game rework>

[mystic gale]

it's just the graphics mod

[feral grove]

Ok I found it thank you

its made for a different game version will it still work>

[woven gate]

i'm still developing my doctrine as Italy to play Japan soon

[mystic gale]

that aint no general

[terse skiff]

Yeah she's an officer

Not a general yet

[heavy vigil]

ai be selling anything nowadays

[fair horizon]

patton tank ❤️

[autumn parrot]

hey chat

[opaque zinc]

Reinhold can into army

[lost warren]

having fun refining my Afghanistan run

[tulip thorn]

Hello

[lost warren]

hello

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-sparkle-wave-cute-mlp-my-little-pony-gif-8814149759150757043

[twin finch]

anyone know the best armor subdoctrine for canada mech build

[daring patio]

Bruh I don’t even know what a space marine is

I just play single player

And I only have 100 hours

[tulip thorn]

Space marine is a infantry or special forces unit with high armor from a heavy tank

[daring patio]

Ah

[tulip thorn]

And no one uses them in mp lmao

[daring patio]

Thanks

I kinda suck at hoi4

And I only play ahistorical because i love not knowing what is going on

And in the rare occasion I build a navy I just build subs because I’m too lazy

[mystic gale]

what have i done

[wary sparrow]

my little schizo europe project

havent done southern europe yet

[sudden thistle]

they werent bluffing

[violet veldt]

What mod is this

[surreal swift]

i keep restarting the game and i still dont know what i am doing

am i the only one who just has no way to learn this game?

[opal citrus]

guys what should i do

the soviets destroyed my allies romania and poland but i refused to join the war bc im already fighting the germans

do i just hope japan can clutch and us and canada declare war on the soviets

[surreal swift]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[opal citrus]

the soviets arent at war with me but they are with my allies

uk went down facist path

[surreal swift]

your screenshot is what confused me

32 hours, cant even get far in a single game

[torpid inlet]

dead chat

[surreal swift]

dead chat, dead game

[silver loom]

i despise paradox launcher

[surreal swift]

what is wrong with it

[bright forum]

What's a good minor allied nation I can play to just pump out air? I want to make a bunch of planes.

[upbeat helm]

just play turtle shell britain

3 Naval HQ on main island with radar and coastal forts and infantry garrisons and no german is going to set foot on the island while you build your air

[umbral agate]

if my puppets take a state will i not get this achievement?

[upbeat helm]

I don't think so

[bright forum]

I am way too shit at the UK.

[upbeat helm]

It's about capitulation not owning

[bright forum]

Any advice for playing the UK?

[upbeat helm]

Uh

Defense

And know how to do navy

[bright forum]

Well shit.

[upbeat helm]

Rush the next fighter level at start too

because as Britain that strategy gets you fighter 3s in 38

[bright forum]

So go straight for improved?

[upbeat helm]

Yea

[bright forum]

Holy 1076 days.

[upbeat helm]

I beat the german luftwaffe in less than a month because I did that

I got improved in 38 built up insane fighters and destroyed their basic planes

I actually paradrop cheesed them because they couldn't contest the air...

OP strat fr

[bright forum]

I love strat bombers.

[upbeat helm]

I like CAS

and tac

[bright forum]

Air is one of my favourite ways to play.

[upbeat helm]

But i can build a really good fighter

[bright forum]

That's why I like the UK even though I'm kinda bad at 'em.

[upbeat helm]

I mainly play the UK

And italy If I am hating on democracy

I played italy and beat the soviets in army size...

conquered all of europe by 41

[bright forum]

Soviet Union is my favourite country, personally.

[upbeat helm]

I like the big 3 (US, USSR, Germany)

but I feel they are too easy

at least for singeplayer

[bright forum]

I am garbage at Germany.

[opaque zinc]

I suck at the game and no matter what I will lose but uh

I like Poland

Finland

And uhm

Uhhh

I like to play China

I like the Netherlands too

Ok maybe that’s why I’m losing

[upbeat helm]

Lol

Finland is easy if you do neutrality

Poland is harder

netherlands has a lot of potential

china is medium difficulty

just gotta be good at setting up

I once had a battle in china go on for 350 days

almost a full year a battle raged on

I got an achievement for it

[dawn grail]

Oops

[glass python]

does anyone wanna play with me

i failed my america run again

lol

[lucid patio]

Probably went fascist and justified on all major countries

[glass python]

im so trash

[lucid patio]

Me too bro

[unreal mica]

im god

[heavy vigil]

@dusky burrow look at this ai vs ai (ive done nothing to help them)

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-shit-holy-fucking-shit-fucking-shit-wtf-gif-25185864

[lucid patio]

Is it ok if i just build mils day one as japan

Just mil spam

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[rich nacelle]

I just lost an army of 24 marines because of how poorly coded the Italian Civil war is.

[heavy vigil]

YES

i mean you should do collabs and a land facility first

but otherwise yeah

[dawn grail]

I only justified on Germany.

[fair horizon]

chat how deal with because im sick of this stupid crap garbage command power gambling

[slim nexus]

Ignore

[fair horizon]

they have a ton of building slots

i cant just ignore it

[solemn bay]

I guess Finland lives in the water now

[dusky burrow]

oof

rough

[dusky burrow]

yeah it's just gambling

and trying to get compliance up

[fair horizon]

it doesnt go up

[dusky burrow]

and also

use the reconcilliation law

[heavy vigil]

kurdistan had 56 3/3 light tank divs

a daring strat

[fair horizon]

oh ffs

[heavy vigil]

it didnt pay off

[fair horizon]

i forgot about that

[dusky burrow]

they did?!

what

[heavy vigil]

they also had like 8K tanks deficit or something

[dusky burrow]

bruh

[heavy vigil]

it was a daring build but it didnt quite work out against iran who made like an actual army (small) and airforce

thats why they rolled so hard even without player intervention

[dusky burrow]

why did the ai make 56 3/3 tank divisions thouhg

[heavy vigil]

ai goes

i have lot of this

so my factor goes higher

or rather they make more equipment to equip those divisions and then make more divisions

etc etc

usually it leads to infantry-heavy armies

but late game especially after theyve lost forces youll sometimes see the ai go crazy on tanks

soviet army for example

russian i guess but whatever

[heavy vigil]

vs chinese army

spanish airforce size is another example

usually its less extreme, france for example made a lot of tanks relatively but didnt go crazy

[dusky burrow]

Oof spanish air force rip

[unreal mica]

just give up on turkey and release kurdistan

and play as htem

but unironically i think britain is the best country to do that with

the kurd achoevement

lemme rey actually

try

[fair horizon]

cant as turkey

[solemn bay]

Why thank you, Estonia, for 0 equipment once

[dusky burrow]

lmao

[slim nexus]

is that a bug or are the Estonians ungrateful

[dusky burrow]

bug

[slim nexus]

yep

[slim nexus]

How many focuses have you completed by now ?

[bright forum]

When you're doing Port Strikes, do you target the ocean around the coast or the land?

[solemn bay]

They're ungrateful

[slim nexus]

this should be reported

as it's a byg

[solemn bay]

Nah, Estonia get's annexed instead

[azure palm]

Why is it harder to start an uprising in Egypt as Ethiopia than win the war against Italy?

And why is it that sometimes with 100% resistance the rebbelion doesnt start?

[dusky burrow]

You need an average of 90% in all states

[unkempt cape]

any Suggestions?

💔

[agile perch]

what countries are good without DLC, i got hacked so i cant subscribe to the monthly thing

[vapid bough]

bro just let me paradrop 🥀

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[ripe slate]

Hello markom

[cedar lance]

wassup mari

[dusky burrow]

Oof overstacking

[ripe slate]

Im driving to a castle museum

Hbu

[cedar lance]

im good aswell mari

[peak thorn]

hello

[glass python]

hey

[peak thorn]

also for a gam

[glass python]

i need help

[cursive oxide]

O fun keyboard is dead Great

[peak thorn]

ask claude\

gl

[glass python]

how do i use navy to atk

idk notin

[cursive oxide]

?

Like navy vs navy or landings?

[chrome goblet]

Does anyone wanna play mp vanilla?

[faint tusk]

Just travel the seven seas

[cursive oxide]

German uk Hungary Czechoslovakia

Most major's

And a few minor nation's

[agile perch]

Ok

[cursive oxide]

Depends on what you want/like to

You can also just get road to 56 for beter focus trees

[quasi osprey]

I just found out that inviting the baltic countries as falangist poland is just stupid

the soviets attack them

[cursive oxide]

Yep

[quasi osprey]

its kinda sad I managed to push a bit but then the main soviet forces came and it became a stalemate

[cursive oxide]

I'm aslo trying something as Czechoslovakia but game keeps doing something else

Trying to faction exploited

[quasi osprey]

even my 120 div army cant stop the soviets completely

[cursive oxide]

Dont the start with 100+ divs?

[quasi osprey]

wdym

[cursive oxide]

Don't the USSR start with 100 or more divs ?

So then your 120 is not much

[quasi osprey]

thats is kinda my point inviting baltics is like a kamicadze mission

[cursive oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/banzai-hachimaki-gif-20023547

[quasi osprey]

I actually was a bit wrong at that time I had about 170 divs but it still wasnt enough

[cursive oxide]

Not can beat the red army

https://tenor.com/view/communism-communist-ussr-soviet-union-russia-gif-27657941

[quasi osprey]

I went back to a previous save when I still hadnt invited the baltics so hopefully this run will not be as disastrous

[cursive oxide]

Hope it for you bro good luck

[bronze mango]

Wait for compliance to go up

You get decisions to core the territories

[rare sand]

how early is too early to invade the soviet union?

[atomic grove]

1936

[fair horizon]

I was reminded about the special occupation type

[atomic grove]

just dont touch it

put it on civ oversight

u do get 25-50 pp depending on if u fail or succeed in one of those though

[quasi osprey]

well now my faction has 300 divs in 1940 is that a lot

[fair horizon]

The issue is that if you dont use that focus type the compliance goes down

[atomic grove]

thats why you dont touch it

its too gambly

[quasi osprey]

I am not axis btw

[fair horizon]

or you use the complaince remove the issue

[atomic grove]

if u get lucky u can core all of em

[quasi osprey]

and not allies

[fair horizon]

Not even a luck thing

Turkey gets their own special occupation method for the kurd states

[quasi osprey]

italy....... why