hoi4-general

[urban flower]

there's not a single publiclay traded company that isn't greedy

and paradox is greedy for same reason as the other gazillion companies

[sudden raptor]

so what is ur point in even arguing its not?

[urban flower]

i never said they aren't

[waxen jacinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441175664832151774/1452337433986207957/segl_2.gif

[urban flower]

i gave you the exact reason why

because publicaly traded company

[urban flower]

do you understand now

[sudden raptor]

pdx greedy😭

[sudden raptor]

yes ty

[sudden thistle]

🤯

[vital owl]

no, hes right

on ger if u do tanks do gbp + individual

for inf do sfp + large unit

[terse skiff]

if you think dankus is the best, wait until you learn about all his uks getting sealioned

or how the bokoen games are all scripted

[flint wyvern]

They aren't bro

[steel zephyr]

nah norway is non alligned, though earlier it had a communist revolution and became commie, but it invaded me and naturally lost (but I had to invade Norway through the mountains...), and then i accidently misclicked so it became nonalligned instead of a puppet

ended up annexing norway in the end after war ended

yeah there's a british norway that i think was there, i tried to release my "finnish norway", or really return territory to my puppet but there was no such option

not sure if there even was a british norway or the cores just got renamed like that

🤤

released sweden as a puppet even though they didnt deserve it, not sure why it isnt similar to my colour though like norway

[lost dawn]

@icy egret

This better?

[steel zephyr]

bruh EVEYRONE ELSE is in the allies 🥀

safe to say game eends here

[sudden thistle]

When Finland files

Scripted or not, those 2 do make very enjoyable videos

[flint wyvern]

Female humanoid

[lost dawn]

One question

Should I even accept Denmarks trade deal?

It seems that +10% consumer goods that early during the game is simply not worth the benefits.

[terse skiff]

It's consumer goods factor

It barely does anything

On war economy that means you spend 2% more

[heavy vigil]

assuming no other modifiers

[lost dawn]

This is honestly a terrible deal

[terse skiff]

Yeah it's factor

[lost dawn]

Imma deny it

[terse skiff]

It doesn't really change anything

Does -5% supply work alongside logistics companies and logistics field marshal?

[lost dawn]

Love using this with Return of the Kaiser....

[grizzled yarrow]

i have decided i hate myself and will play spain yipeeeeeeeeeeee

[lost dawn]

I salute you....

You are a brave person

[grizzled yarrow]

thank you.

[lost dawn]

Btw when should I end MEFO bills?

[grizzled yarrow]

1939

[lost dawn]

As monarchist Germany?

I am going to war much earlier than 1939

[delicate lance]

WE ARE GONNA BE FREE FROM AWFUL HOI4 MONEY HUNGRY DEVS

[lost dawn]

Great profile image btw

[delicate lance]

Stupid Devs won’t ban me, they won’t ban me, and if you are with me , they won’t ban you either !!!

[grizzled yarrow]

why not go for the other economy path

anyway uhh what path is falangist spain again

[lost dawn]

I believe it is "The Phalanx Ascendant"

[grizzled yarrow]

ah thx

[lost dawn]

But do not quote me on that.

[grizzled yarrow]

oh man this will be painfull

[lost dawn]

Spain is pain

That's just how it is.

[grizzled yarrow]

it is quite fun though

[lost dawn]

But... do be so kind. And do not take over The Netherlands.

I'd like my country to survive the Spanish

[grizzled yarrow]

i will liberate them from the germans

[fringe shell]

who tf created this game

i mean

wtf

[icy egret]

Yes.

[fringe shell]

as britain i puppeted france and i went to war with italy and when italy was 99% till cap regno del sud spawned as a FRANCE puppet and itally was again at 0% towards cap so i had to naval invade and i got from a peace deal colonies and fuhing albania

[timid mica]

Hoi4 release a dlc reworking the Portugual and spain and my life is yours!!!!!

[grizzled yarrow]

i think im starting to get the hang of this

[serene breach]

imagine losing with 80k planes 21m manpower and 2000 divisions

[timid mica]

U learn navy yet?

[grizzled yarrow]

nope

[timid mica]

Then you haven't gotten the hang of it yet

[grizzled yarrow]

talking bout the spanish civil war

[timid mica]

You do all 4 paths?

[grizzled yarrow]

doing falangist rn

[timid mica]

Have fun but I hope they rework the spanish civil war and Portugal and add more stuff to the tree its old and I want more for the monarchist path.

[mental mantle]

Download RT57

[timid mica]

I did and did all that too 😭

[mental mantle]

Did what

[safe wing]

I’m gonna conquer Romania, Greece, Turkey and Albania as Italy when I get home

And possibly Yugoslavia too

[cursive oxide]

finaly

[timid mica]

All the paths there too

[fair horizon]

SHOW ME

strongest tank vs weakest camel

[cunning saddle]

hoi4 shader map fix for mods when

[ripe slate]

didnt they fix it in 1.17.4?

[cunning saddle]

no cuz TNO looks ass rn

and a bunch of other mods too

[timid mica]

My most normal battleship

[ripe slate]

did you switch to the open beta in Steam?

[fair horizon]

where aa?

where carrier?

[timid mica]

Aa light crusiers job

Not battleship

[fair horizon]

🤮

[serene breach]

show what

[fair horizon]

show your navy

[fair horizon]

aa is battleship's job

damage to light target is cruiser job

damage to everything carrier job

[cunning saddle]

Actually I haven’t played for 2 days so lemme check once I get home

[fair horizon]

battleship meant to take hit and shoot plane

[safe wing]

When I get home I’m gonna build some carries as Italy and rule the Mediterranean I’m gonna name them Augustus, Agrippa, Tiberius and Claudius

[cunning saddle]

If ts persists then I wouldn’t be able to look at TNO in any normal means ever again cuz it’s the only thing I play

I didn’t bother trying the vanilla game cuz it’s honestly lowk mid

[timid mica]

No its not i beg to differ aa is simply better on light crusiers as mios for escorts have buff to anti air

[safe wing]

Who needs aa when you have carriers to sink the enemy carries

[fair horizon]

TRUEEEE

[serene breach]

i told you

[timid mica]

I use carriers as scout ships then let my battleship groups do the rest

[fair horizon]

also yes it matters that battleships are the aa targets

because battleships have a higher surface visibility they're more likely to get targeted

[timid mica]

Well it doesn't matter if you rule the sky's either way too

[heavy vigil]

it does just less

[fair horizon]

yeah but i play minors that dont 🥀

[timid mica]

Then that explains alot

[fair horizon]

where carrier?

[fair horizon]

you try ruling the sky with no plane mio

[timid mica]

That's the only time I throw anti air on battleships

[serene breach]

i dont have manpower to produce

[brittle cypress]

the light cruisers stacked with AA watching all the naval bombers fly past them and sinking every single battleship in an hour

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

[heavy vigil]

i think this is the largest nuclear sub fleet ive ever had?

[brittle cypress]

absolutely tragic

[fair horizon]

someone send this dude some communism

he needs the portrait of karl max

[mental mantle]

L Faction

[safe wing]

Japan lost the naval war because they lost their carriers

[heavy vigil]

why didnt they just make nuclear missile subs

[mental mantle]

Mass production of subs

Imagine if they did

[fair horizon]

well as well as fighting the world's strongest industrial base

[serene breach]

that wont help as albania in 1970

[safe wing]

Japan had a atomic bomb program but it was super behind the manhattan project

[brittle cypress]

japan lost the war because for every destroyer they could make the usa could make 5 battleships and they only had enough fuel for 20 minutes of fighting per year

[fair horizon]

japan had more issues than getting its carriers sunk

[serene breach]

minor country whatever

[safe wing]

US submarine blockade ensured the home islands were cut off

[mental mantle]

They could have just printed more money and conquered all of asia and invaded east africa and been well off

And they could have landed on the moon to assert dominance

[heavy vigil]

chat

[brittle cypress]

chatter

[heavy vigil]

world war is going on in my hoi game still

theyre at 100 mil casualties per side

[brittle cypress]

Damn

that’s a lot

[mental mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[timid mica]

Why dont you end the suffering then?

[heavy vigil]

its not the first mega world war either

its the second

[brittle cypress]

the heck

[fair horizon]

i made america bleed in my south africa world war

[safe wing]

This weekend I learned that if I join the Axis as Monarchist Italy democratic or non aligned Hitler won’t kick me out

[brittle cypress]

send screenshots of this sounds cool

[heavy vigil]

i will later im gonna update to the beta

but tbh the front has hardly moved

[mental mantle]

Send the SS

[heavy vigil]

it is a lot rn but like

yk

[fair horizon]

britian giving you the boot the moment you generate .1% world tension

[mental mantle]

Reveal the SS

[manic iris]

guys how much is the germany dlc?

[mental mantle]

Free in 5 years

[manic iris]

huh

[timid mica]

Arm and a leg

[fair horizon]

mabye 10% off

[safe wing]

Germany when I conquer Vichy France😴

[heavy vigil]

first mega war was ussr and japan vs everyone but the US

now its the US and west europe vs germany japan china ussr

it might sound similar but like japan had 0 mils at the start of this war and their empire i decolonized it

[fair horizon]

in my ahistorical game poland conquered europe

[manic iris]

i lowkey wanna install a mod where factions dissapear i cant i swear in 5mins i get declared by entire world

[timid mica]

When I was stuck in dorm

[grizzled yarrow]

ok bro this is terrible

i won in feb 1939

[manic iris]

IVE been trying for 4 runs to do holy roman empire omg any tips

[fair horizon]

those dont look like typical generals...

[safe wing]

As who?

[timid mica]

Hush I like waifus

[grizzled yarrow]

nationalist spain

[fair horizon]

respectable

[safe wing]

Ah I see

That’s when the historically won too

[timid mica]

Go down the passive route instead of aggressive then you can allie nearly half 9f Europe then annex them later then can core all of Europe pretty fun to do and very awarding with all the cores just be in non-historical

[safe wing]

He doesn’t have the dlc

[grizzled yarrow]

Yeah but i need to win much faster

[manic iris]

yea i tried it couple times idk why whithout dlc its pretty heard

[safe wing]

True

[manic iris]

hard

i need to go down a VERY specific route

at a VERY specific time

[heavy vigil]

this is from my game rn :3 (intervention wars to get some resource rights/ports so not like major v major ofc)

[manic iris]

its kinda sad

[grizzled yarrow]

After carlist revolt im berally left with 30 div

[safe wing]

I formed Rome as Democratic King Italy twice over the weekend

[heavy vigil]

only used nukes against dominican republic

[safe wing]

Wasn’t hard for me tbh

[manic iris]

how on this green earth did u manage 720 divisions per commander

[heavy vigil]

mod

[grizzled yarrow]

How can i win the civil war much faster tho

[manic iris]

i wish i had dlcs

they sound so fun

[safe wing]

Some are some aren’t

[timid mica]

Get the subscription its cheap

[safe wing]

^

[manic iris]

i prolly couldnt pay more thaan a month and id ragequit idk how id go back to normal gameplay

does italy have a DLC?

[timid mica]

By blood alone

[safe wing]

Mandatory dlc for plane designer and ship stealing IMO

[grizzled yarrow]

What time is like a good time to finish the spanish civil war

[timid mica]

1938

[safe wing]

I did early 1938 as the Anarchists

[grizzled yarrow]

Teach me how to do it but with nationalists 🙏

[manic iris]

20 euro

wtf

[safe wing]

Which path as the nationalists?

[manic iris]

that is 3x more expensive than the price i bought the game

or 4x

[grizzled yarrow]

Falangist

[manic iris]

i want the german dlc

[safe wing]

Prioritize the North

[manic iris]

can u still make SPQR whithout dlcs

wait is byzantine formable?

[grizzled yarrow]

How many div should i send to the north

[safe wing]

The earlier you kill the carlists the better because if you trigger their uprising by focus you get combat bonuses

[grizzled yarrow]

I sent 13 last time but it took a long time to kill em

[grizzled yarrow]

Soooo i should trigger em asap?

[safe wing]

Yea Pause the game when the civil war starts and move divisions into empty tiles

[manic iris]

????

[grizzled yarrow]

Hm and after they fall i just micro the frontline?

[safe wing]

Yes

[grizzled yarrow]

And then i deal with the anarchist or head straight for the republicans

[safe wing]

Anarchists because they are weak

[grizzled yarrow]

Alr

Hopefully it will work 🤞

Ive seen people cheese it and win in like a few weeks

Spain should be pretty fun to play after the civil war

[safe wing]

Honestly it isn’t fun after the civil war either

[grizzled yarrow]

I mean

U js cheese the war w allies

Betray germany

[outer tide]

fighting a war with swis confederation they said for a simple formable

[lethal ether]

i wish you could organize save files

[grizzled yarrow]

And either quit or continue

[safe wing]

Holy Roman Empire?

[grizzled yarrow]

Use mountaineers 🙏🙏

[outer tide]

🙏

[manic iris]

spam tanks

[outer tide]

militia devisions>>>

[manic iris]

ur tryna make it?

or did u make it

[grizzled yarrow]

Oh yeah i forgot about having to record ur land

Recore*

[manic iris]

guys what do yall think is more worth it, buying goterdam for 15 bucks or buying the 3 month supbstricption for 15 bucks

[grizzled yarrow]

Ehhh il prob have enough stuff to be able to cheese the war with the brits

[outer tide]

im just spamming militia to take switzerland😎 👍

[manic iris]

good idea

[ember totem]

https://tenor.com/view/lock-in-locked-in-speed-ishowspeed-empathy-gif-6670578751738480629

[outer tide]

whats that?

[manic iris]

are u holy roman empire?

[grizzled yarrow]

Special forces

[outer tide]

yes

[manic iris]

or are u tryna form it or are u

u got the DLC?

[safe wing]

I have a plan to defeat Germany as Monarchist Italy

[manic iris]

how is it going

i failed 3 runs tryna form it

whithout dlc is hard

[outer tide]

normal its just a joke tho im bored so i just spammed militia devisions

[manic iris]

are u forming it with or whithout dlc

[grizzled yarrow]

Btw

Which side is the easiest to win as in the civil war?

[outer tide]

which dlc adds it? im pretty sure i have all

[manic iris]

oh

[safe wing]

From my experience Republicans surprisingly

[manic iris]

guterdam i think]

[grizzled yarrow]

Well thats crazy

[outer tide]

yea i have it

[manic iris]

o cool

[manic iris]

what do yall think?

[safe wing]

Subscription because you get everything

[grizzled yarrow]

Lowk gonna start maining spain and portugal

I like those countries

[safe wing]

I’m gonna conquer Greece and puppet Turkey and Romania so I have less coast to defend

[manic iris]

guys is bizantine formable?

[safe wing]

Yes but Rome is better

[manic iris]

are they both with dlcs

[safe wing]

Rome is included with the base game now

[manic iris]

byzantine?

[safe wing]

Base game too I think

[grizzled yarrow]

Wait dint hoi4 get some free dlcs?

[safe wing]

Because it wasn’t added in Bftb but in Waking the Tiger along with Rome

[ripe slate]

Man the Guns, Waking the Tiger, Death or Dishonor, Together for Victory

[grizzled yarrow]

Lit

[manic iris]

what do those do?

[ripe slate]

TfV originally added the puppet system and commonwealth trees
DoD added licenses and Balkan trees
MtG added ship designer, Netherlands/Mexico trees and extensions to UK/USA
WTT was the original Japan/China trees and the alt-hist section of Germany

[languid patrol]

professional gameplay

[manic iris]

how do u even become axis

[manic iris]

oh cool

any news for free germany trees 😭

[ripe slate]

there is one already

Oh!

And Road to 56 will get a new Germany tree in March

[manic iris]

whats road to 56

[safe wing]

What’s in it

For the Kaiser path at the very least

[manic iris]

whats road to 56

[ripe slate]

The best HOI IV mod, not biased at all or anything

[safe wing]

A mod the Marjin is a major dev on

[ripe slate]

Lots more depth to the civil war and politics

[manic iris]

i dont like mods idk why

[ripe slate]

I dont like most total overhaul mods but Road is vanilla+

[safe wing]

Okay I’m intrigued but only if the civil war doesn’t last till 1938

[manic iris]

i played uh what was it called

[ripe slate]

Old World Blues? Kaiserreich?

[manic iris]

kaisereich

yes

i hated it

i was germany and i had to deal with some parliment thing

so BORIGN

[safe wing]

Road to 56 is my second favorite overhaul mod behind KX

[manic iris]

and it became a clicking sim

[grizzled yarrow]

I dint even realise they added buildings for energy

[safe wing]

Not just energy but for all resources too

[languid patrol]

what

i am germany

i am axis

[manic iris]

like how to get named

axis

[languid patrol]

its just like that

wdym

[manic iris]

huh

[safe wing]

That’s the faction map mode

[manic iris]

ohh

[fair horizon]

Road makes australia playable 👍

[waxen wagon]

Hi Comrades!

[manic iris]

hi'

[fair horizon]

Wheres my surface navy enjoyers at?

[mighty bone]

rate my template!

[manic iris]

whats a surface navy

[fair horizon]

No flame tanks? Smh

[mighty bone]

i dont know if u can get heavy flame tanks

[wet vessel]

Yooo

[wet vessel]

"1151 infantry division"

[fair horizon]

You can

[weary lagoon]

based

[mighty bone]

its been a long game

[cursive oxide]

?

[azure walrus]

IIRC it’s Destroyers, carriers, cruisers etch

[wet vessel]

WHAT THE HELL 😭

[fair horizon]

Going for the acheivement?

[mighty bone]

no i already got that achievement 😭 im gettin ghte annoying achievements that u need to conquer the world for

[azure walrus]

Looks like it’s been so long…

[mighty bone]

and empire is easiest world conq

cores on EU and USA

[wet vessel]

manz i can barely cap the soviets with cheat mods

meanwhile bro has everything

[mighty bone]

the game runs SO fast

a day is 2 seconds

on 5 speed

[fair horizon]

Its the easiest because it has one of the best industries and the largest navy

[mighty bone]

thats not why i played it, instead of capping the US and UK which is a pain why not become them

[cursive oxide]

If you can't. Beat them join them

[wet vessel]

[mighty bone]

in 1943 and beyond lag is unbearable

once u kill all majors lag goes away

[heavy vigil]

holy shit vendrip

the new beta

[fair horizon]

Wym

[mighty bone]

??

[heavy vigil]

they added flags to the logi tab

this is BIG

[fair horizon]

I CAN DELETE GARBAGE I DONT WANT

Also based for playing kings party

[heavy vigil]

its a small change but like i love cosmetic changes like this

[languid patrol]

son

[mighty bone]

i've noticed a large bug, When you invade india and india ai is stupid it causes the famine to stay which then gives u permanent 100% res. I have spies, brutal oppression, Heavy tank garrison 100% equipped and resistance goes up. This so so dumb

[heavy vigil]

better example

[heavy vigil]

martial law is better for resistance

[mighty bone]

it doesnt matter when the buff gives 100% resistance target and u cant remove it

[heavy vigil]

if you have compliance it goes below 100% target

you can def get it down

sucks tho

[fair horizon]

Famine kek

[mighty bone]

yo bro?

literate much

only thing that i can do is keep an army there to insta kill the insurrection

[serene breach]

world next day when your crush says: i love you

[mighty bone]

how can u aford this many raids?

[fair horizon]

Eh its just a few things to kill

[mighty bone]

i guess so

[manic iris]

chat time for my 4th holy roman empire run with no dlcs

wish me luck

[mighty bone]

actually it is not terrible

with brutal oppresion, spies, princess of terror, heavy tank garrisons you can actually stop it at 54% resistance target

[serene breach]

i dont know

i have like 270 command power

i dont know how

XDDD

[mighty bone]

i think bro might not like china

[serene breach]

everything is thermonuclear ICBMS

next is US

[wet vessel]

L encirclement

[serene breach]

im just trying destroy all their equipment by attrition and no cvis + mill

[clear dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241827306612199515/1391947151461843106/attachment.gif

[mighty bone]

bros playing RT56 RP discardian edition

[wet vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/he-is-the-greatest-israeli-soldier-you-dont-mess-with-zohan-adam-sandler-israel-israeli-soldier-gif-9848209739616781356

[heavy vigil]

thermonuclear striking for fun

[serene breach]

perfect almost whole china got this debuff

[mighty bone]

is brazil really spelled with an s?

[clear dagger]

they already have this irl

(jk ccp dont lower my score)

[mighty bone]

bro js lost all his credit

[serene breach]

in west part of china yea

xD

even worse thing i did it as albania

[mighty bone]

Devs got tired 🙏

[clear dagger]

lmao

wheres the "invade iraq" option for oil

[ember totem]

was that fun?

[serene breach]

yeah

[mighty bone]

i already invaded iraq

[serene breach]

my longest and best game xDDDD

[mighty bone]

the longest and worst game i've ever played was carlist spain to 1951

[clear dagger]

so thats what the "we must drill deeper" is for then

[mighty bone]

its for a state called chaco boreal

[serene breach]

i dont even know how i fit it in

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hand-hoi4-hearts-of-iron-yugoslavia-gif-27522001

[clear dagger]

(pretend its albania)

[serene breach]

i would be bigger

if soviets...

wont puppet like 70% of earth

[mighty bone]

Tito:Good ending

[oak mantle]

Is there a good way to get armor doctrine or is it still cancer

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/legendary-battle-worthy-opponent-finally-a-worthy-opponent-our-battle-will-be-legendary-gif-14616660

[serene breach]

true

with this amount of manpower

its very true

[clear dagger]

sometimes i try to make someone a superpower so i can have more fun fighting them but then somehow they get weaker

like when i did a game as lux and gave germany core claims on the entire planet so ww2 would be a steamroll for them

they died in early 42

[serene breach]

but atleast im in posivite numbers like after 6 years

[clear dagger]

idfk how

they lost quicker with insane buffs

[mighty bone]

garrison

garrisoning is a death sentence for a small country

[clear dagger]

i said germany lost

not me

with core claims on every state

to make my fight against them as lux more challenging and so i have a long term fight with them instead of the allies

[serene breach]

yea....

its like 90% of my population

[mighty bone]

u have to wait till 70% compliance to get any mp back

[serene breach]

ik

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/marx-karl-marx-communism-soviet-union-marxism-gif-12636906807547980496

[serene breach]

but my compliance is going in snail speed

[clear dagger]

500 manpower

[serene breach]

no

[mighty bone]

and for these stupid world conq runs u HAVE to insta kill everyone to not be killed by lag irl

[serene breach]

i have him, with focus tree

900 manpower weekly

but doesn't really help

[clear dagger]

just wait a little bit

40 years should be enough

[serene breach]

ye

i can wait

[mighty bone]

do you guys also experience "Ghost Divisions" Romania clearly doesnt exist yet these troops still do

[serene breach]

rebels

[mighty bone]

romania is a core state...

[clear dagger]

i guess hitler is still ordering non existent panzer divisions

[mighty bone]

this happens everywhere

ghost dutch in algeria

soviets in cairo

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/jedi-ghost-yoda-anakin-skywalker-gif-18258883

[serene breach]

perfect

supersonic jets after 20 years

[mighty bone]

yall know how to get thats sikh achievement?

I control all of the world but i dont know how to release myself as sikh india and give all indian cores

[serene breach]

this jet is very cheap

but whatever i already unlocked chinese manufactor so i building it quick

[manic iris]

omfg this game\

[glacial oasis]

wait what is that the confederate flag on that ship in the man the guns loading screen image

[glacial oasis]

how did you do this

[manic iris]

i was so close to winnning, and for some magical reason, even tho enemy advances, my units dont go to the front line??

i just wanna do holy roman empire man 😭

[azure walrus]

can these two lovebirds reunify peacefully

[mighty bone]

is 9 achievements in 1 day quick

[mighty bone]

wrrf will kill them both anyway

[azure walrus]

i set gamerule for the karelian war to be total victory for finland and onega

(im playing as moskowien)

so then I can conquer russia with oktan after holding off bormann

i can hold off bormann right?

right?

[azure walrus]

also, speaking of the wrrf

theyre getting their ass handed to them by samara

and they had komi on their side too

idk, i might have set gamerule for samara to unify western russia but i could be wrong

isnt the rk ukraine leader supposed to get replaced with the next skeleton

[serene breach]

few loses

[azure walrus]

wait why did i get puppeted w/o consent, doesnt bormann invade moskowien

[azure walrus]

yeah the soviets tend to put a lot of ppl on the front

[clever shuttle]

why is it not possible to just build super goods subs that are super hard to find and then use them to get naval dominance and naval invade countries?

[quartz valley]

how am i supposed to win

[azure walrus]

can gayny unify russia in tno hoi4

[safe wing]

Yes

[azure walrus]

letting them do it(deleted samara divs) to see what happens

[clever shuttle]

plsss

[analog ivy]

this is probably the most cursed austria i've ever seen

"indian germany" and its not even in germany

[clever shuttle]

ahahha how tf did ts happen

[analog ivy]

i tried to puppet austria as india but i wasn't expecting it to be called indian germany lol

[serene breach]

you was right

after 2 years

[clever shuttle]

damnnn

why is it not possible to just build super goods subs that are super hard to find and then use them to get naval dominance and naval invade countries?

[limber arrow]

Man

[serene breach]

skill issue

[limber arrow]

The germany AI has really been downgraded by the ncns dlc

[clever shuttle]

please someone help

[limber arrow]

Can't even reach minsk

😭

[clever shuttle]

yeah i know they suck

nationalist spain also got megabuffed

like republican spain sucks and lets them snake through them

[azure walrus]

josias' kingdom vs just germany(moskowien(me) and ukraine refused to join war)... who will win

(nvm ukraine is in)

[limber arrow]

Its so bad its just unrealistic

[clever shuttle]

fr

[limber arrow]

I mean like Yeah i didn't like how germany used to push further than Moscow before and take too much

[safe wing]

Did you use the new beta

[limber arrow]

But now its quite the opposite

Can't even reach minsk

[quartz valley]

atleast my navy defeated uk and usa navy

[serene breach]

what

[quartz valley]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bethesda-fallout-3-fallout3-LkfPKsQwgNU3ILEOZk

[serene breach]

well

it would look like that after my thermo nukes

i waiting until i get 50 for 50 states of america

[azure walrus]

doesnt gayny get regional unification

nvm, just had to use the debug decisions

interestingly, they dont core anything

[bright forum]

I love how the shared focus tree communist opposition path have "Concessions for Catholics" despite only one of the counties being a majority Catholic one.

Both Latvia and Estonia are/were Lutheran.

[azure walrus]

yeah who'da thunk it

i can conquer them now right

(im moskowien, annexed myself to clear the german puppet)

[sharp sierra]

wow the way you can just make nat china immediately disappear on declare with the infiltration mechanic

not a shot fired

[azure walrus]

yo why are these buffs not bad

like

why did they give skeleton oktan a compliance buff

idk but i suppose that its time to unify russia under oktan in normal TNO

(btw does me unpuppeting myself mean that bromine's germany will be paralyzed)

bit late

[woven dragon]

TNO logic

[azure walrus]

elaborate

[woven dragon]

Like explain, or you agree that TNO logic is complicated??

[azure walrus]

tno's elaborate logic is far too much for any human to comprehend

this is my new opinion

[zenith charm]

the first person ever i see play moskowien

[safe wing]

Nationalist china ain’t beating the incompetent allegations

[azure walrus]

i would do this in requiem but requiem's moskowien skeleton(the computer-busting civil war) doesnt let you train more divisions so im stuck with base tno and the console

[sharp sierra]

they kept all their units and theres 10 divs per tile in southern china

[azure walrus]

should I help josias out

moskowien volunteers

then again i doubt theyll help much

ive deleted bro man's divisions like 6 times

7 times after js now

[left skiff]

it waste my time? yes
i did lost braincells? yes
it was hard? kind of
did i enjoy it? no

[azure walrus]

cleaned up orenburg's anarchy, onega's ethnostates, and mendriks' league

[marble patio]

will the cold war happen if i go past 1945

cuz like

some event popped up

that said to prepare for war and be neutral

and i said be neutral

but i got kicked out of allies

and now nothing is happening

i'll just form the EU i guess idk

[autumn plover]

What would be historically accurate doctrines and subdoctrines for the soviet union?

[marble patio]

1. take poland with germany

2. wait

3. get betrayed

4. dont die

5. wait

6. win tons of shit and land

congratulations you are accurate soviet union

[autumn plover]

That's not a military doctrine genius

[marble patio]

yes bro trust

master plan

[maiden verge]

GBP, its the closest you can get

Contrary to popualr belief (i dont know which) soviet union didnt do anything like mass assault

[autumn plover]

Oh right didn't they move deep battle to a generic operations subdoctrine?

[ripe slate]

No

The AI isnt coded to avoid WW3 starting almost immediately after WW2 ends

most likely someone either runs out of historical focuses to do and starts going crazy with ahistorical focuses, or someone starts justifying

Italy for example has a tendency to start justifying on lands it lost in WW2

[autumn plover]

In the Hoi4 universe it's canon that everyone listens to Churchill the second the Germans are dead even if Churchill's dead

[glacial oasis]

WE SHALL SEE THE SEA AGAIN
NEVER STOP FIGHTING
保 卫 全 中 国 !

[modern torrent]

oh my

[glacial oasis]

UURAH

[ripe slate]

Please dont use foreign languages in this server

[glacial oasis]

sorry im feeling patriotic

[ripe slate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/938588665406423061.webp?size=24&animated=true

[autumn plover]

How did you lose over a year's worth of tanks

[modern torrent]

soviets

[autumn plover]

Also, 14 mils on tanks and almost full efficiency and you're still only building under 3 a day?

[terse skiff]

that's not full efficiency

[autumn plover]

Are those like super expensive or am I just used to having dirt cheap tanks

[terse skiff]

that's like 60% efficiency

[modern torrent]

brodie i was refering to the 271

yeah whateve

[terse skiff]

why is your cap so low

[modern torrent]

whateverr

[glacial oasis]

The Siege of Nanjing

[autumn plover]

Yeah actually that's the real question

Is this like super early in the game?

[terse skiff]

it's improved, so it should be at least 1939

[modern torrent]

1940

[autumn plover]

Did you just entirely avoid industry tech?

[terse skiff]

that's like 80% cap? what happened

did you not research any cap tech

[autumn plover]

You should have well over 100% easily by 1940

[modern torrent]

i forgot to research anything

for a bit

[glacial oasis]

BEIJING LIBERATED

[modern torrent]

thats why

prolly

[autumn plover]

you see that's a really big problem

[modern torrent]

i dont cae tho

im still having fun

[autumn plover]

That's great and wonderful

But that deficit's looking like you should care just a little bit more

[modern torrent]

yeah

ill keep in mind

next playthough

through

[autumn plover]

Of course

[terse skiff]

yeah industry tech is very important

[autumn plover]

every game's a learning opportunity

[autumn plover]

honestly you should probalby ignore all mil tech at the beginning of the game until you've researched your basic industry stuff first

[sharp sierra]

i research infantry equipment 1 if i dont start with it and i only have 2 slots

[modern torrent]

yo soviets suck at this defending thing

[glacial oasis]

the last of the major cities japan had it's hands on

[maiden verge]

The brave and destructive mengjiang division

[modern torrent]

oh ok

[glacial oasis]

THE WAR IS NOT YET OVER

[modern torrent]

just capitulate omd

can they come back from this

[marble patio]

lesgo

[marble patio]

also WHAT HAPPENED DAWG

😭

japan war gone so wrong bro

[modern torrent]

idk

soviets declared warr on poland

allies declared war on soviets

soviets declared war on me

japan declared war on soviets

and yea

they have like 1 supply hub

in khazan

[maiden verge]

Vaporize them

[glacial oasis]

THE WAR IS NOT YET OVER
UURAH

[vital cove]

damn armored cars sucked more than i thought

they're funny tho

i lost too many to just dying fron low org lmao

[glacial oasis]

THE WAR IS NOT YET OVER

WAR IS OVER

FREE AT LAST

[autumn plover]

I hate the Spanish AI so much

I'm pulling miracles out of my ass cutting off the entire southern nationalist front, slogging through the worst modifiers in the game to put them in a good place

They leave a huge section of the front completely empty, leaving Madrid wide open

Almost risking the whole of the Madrid pocket to be cut off

THEY ARE STANDING

RIGHT IN FRONT OF EMPTY TILES

THEY CAN CUT OFF THE WHOLE OFFENSIVE AND STARVE THEM OUT

THEY ARE LETTING NATIONALISTS JUST FUNNEL IN AND STRANGLE MADRID

I SEE WHY THEY LOST IN REAL LIFE NOW IF THEY'RE THIS INCOMPETENT

[glacial oasis]

what is this paradox

how does this make any sense at all

also how is this civil war fair

i feel extremely justified using console commands

two (2) units per state i infiltrate

am i just supposed to not fight the japanese

[bright bramble]

Before and after war

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

I was France

[astral wedge]

Can someone me with my game?

[autumn plover]

I'm actually going to smash my skull against a wall

I was so close to winning the Spanish civil war

I look away from one front for literally a minute

[glacial oasis]

hong kong has been liberated

[autumn plover]

It was good when I was looking, we were winning, every tile had troops, everyone was well equipped

I look back and the whole eastern part of SPain has fallen and 2 of my elite mountaineers have been encricled and being killed

I'm this close to just letting the nationalists take Madrid so at least I don't lose more of my mountaineers

[runic storm]

Today I had a 9 hour game I was uk and after "just" 9 hours germany started to lose (1946) then game crashed bcs of hotjoin

Was fun

[glacial oasis]

am i the only one who likes the spanish focus tree

[autumn plover]

It's fine

I just can't stand the civil war

[azure walrus]

can bromine still die and/or fail the kartenhaus if moskowien isnt in the faction

and independent

[prisma saddle]

ayo😭

[warped flint]

oh dear god

[azure walrus]

who are you

[warped flint]

germany

also im not ass at the game this is a mod

[prisma saddle]

first time i killed uk, france, usa, japan and urss

[azure walrus]

so like

can these two reunify peacefully or nah

now that there is no wrrf to steamroll them

[deft snow]

do yall not get naval superiority in the beta too?

[marble patio]

survived ww2 just for europe to devolve into the warm war bro

fml

whatever i got the liberation achievement

i never have to play down that godawful path again

i can now either go full netherlands patriot or full EU

[maiden verge]

Nice, good job

[spring hedge]

how do i make canada accept me bro

omg its cuz i dont have newfoundland rn im so sped

wait

ok im lost

ok so they are a reichskommisariat

[vital cove]

you improve relations with them beforehand and save pp and click the decision that cost the most pp

[spring hedge]

i dont get it

[spring hedge]

i have over 100 relations

it wont let me take the focus is the problem

ohhh they are a reichsprotectorate

sorry folks

[dusky burrow]

Oof rough

[heavy vigil]

@dusky burrow @brittle cypress ussr capped it might be lost

[azure walrus]

yo who wins: me(rp moskowien) or northern russian republic + ural republic&co.?

I want to fight both at once to make this moskowien playthrough less boring

[inland falcon]

wtf happened here

[azure walrus]

so

I wanted to play as oktan's moskowien and unify russia

right?

but bormann puppeted me w/o consent

no event

no "surrender or die"

so i annexed myself to unpuppet

then

after gayny unified west russia and promptly lost the war with finland and onega

kirpichnikov made his ethnostates

which i invaded with the console

(and the anarchy in the southern urals)

(was also cleaned up by yours truly)

[azure walrus]

i have realized, though,

that bormann cant finish his focus tree

if moskowien isnt in his faction

and since there's no "ask to join faction" button in tno

[warped flint]

northern russia republic doesnt get cores and ural republic doesnt own all of the warlods in the ural area so your destroy them

[azure walrus]

they can get the cores through their focus tree though right

[warped flint]

gayny gets a focus tree?

[azure walrus]

no, i just used the debug decision through which gayny gets a regional unification event

[azure walrus]

i dont have cores either btw

is this relevant?

[dusky burrow]

the side with actual mastery gain wins

[dusky burrow]

Looking at the division count probably you

[azure walrus]

me

onega

urals

yeah maybe they dont stand a chance

yall think I should just let northern russia core northern russia

to have a challenge

?

i can also build up in the meantime

nahh

[azure walrus]

wait, if no one has cores on land, do i have to deal with resistance mechanics

i mean if the land is a "colony state"

yeah nah i still have these bums to deal with so maybe i should just conquer one by one

[spark spruce]

gabagool

[azure walrus]

how strong are the siberian unifiers btw

[wicked narwhal]

leave it to me

[spark spruce]

why do you bully me

[azure walrus]

oh wait, i also have this finland to deal with

I should wait and build up more divs right

[warped flint]

probably build up more

[warped flint]

Yeah

[azure walrus]

alright

Oktan's compliance buff really carrying me rn

[wicked narwhal]

you are THE opp

[spark spruce]

for taking you to the o like twice?

run the numbers

hoi4

[inland falcon]

i miss him...

[wicked narwhal]

huh

[spark spruce]

run the numbers

[azure walrus]

yeah but the old moskowien that requiem uses cant train more divs

[wicked narwhal]

huh

[spark spruce]

run the numbers

[azure walrus]

my old question remains: is boer man's germany softlocked by the lack of rk moskowien or can it still collapse(e.g. boer man fails the kartenhaus, boer man dies of cancer)?

(i know that the focus tree is softlocked, but is the country?)

speaking of which, what happens when board man fails to manage the karten haus

[heavy vigil]

i dont think mastery gain was relevant... russia is on both sides anyway....

[heavy vigil]

oh my mouse covered the casualties

sorry

western faction has 110 mil losses ish

[versed copper]

"Making slavery illegal is depressing work" was actually political

[heavy vigil]

theyre chilling

[woven gate]

is Limited Intervention US fun

[runic spoke]

idk

i think ive played hoi4 for like 7 years now and have never done a single us game

boring ahh country

[versed copper]

Bad ending: Brazil

[azure walrus]

i liek how independent democratic serbia just exists in the middle of the einheitspakt and italian sphere and no one is doing anything abt it

[versed copper]

BRUH BRAZIL IS SECOND

I thought Brazil wouldn't reach this point.

[heavy vigil]

i was most shocked by belgium tbh

[bright forum]

Ignore the fact my screen looks like a flashbang, I think it's something to do with HDR, automatic blue-light filtering and how they interact with screenshots. But I think I'm too good at fighting as the Spanish republicans

[dusky burrow]

i assume only one has the purge debuffs though

[maiden verge]

Its just a funnier way to accelerate the US in the war earlier together with the color plans

[inland falcon]

mf playing hoi4 in heaven

[maiden verge]

Increase the brightness a little more

i still can't see portugal

[warped flint]

when the soviet offensive buff goes away ill try to recapture zhytomyr

Preferabley encircle it

[bright forum]

I don't know why the hell it does it but it's only when I use the snipping tool so I don't care enough to check.

Also I'm Stalinist Spain...

Franco, famous Stalinist.

(Yes I know it looks like a flashbang)

[warped flint]

mod told me to counter attack

dont think thats gonna be possible

[dusky burrow]

terrain -47%?

[warped flint]

I swear every video on this mod is total bullshit

they have like 2 divisions per tile

Somehow bittersteel managed to attack to the dniper, with infantry, literally impossible to do

[dusky burrow]

just make your infantry special forces

[warped flint]

?

[dusky burrow]

also if you are running infantry you should not have a 47% terrain penalty like ever

[warped flint]

Those were tanks

[dusky burrow]

then you aren't using infantry for this purpose?

[warped flint]

I tried infantry to

They couldnt do shit

I couldnt take italy like hes game, cause my allies have literally half a million men while in hes game they have 2 infantry per tile

And conviently there was no d-day....

Also the soviets are able to constantly battle plan cause for some reason they get a ginormous discount on that shit

[dusky burrow]

wait what mod is this? Endsieg?

[warped flint]

1944 downfall

[dusky burrow]

-40% tank production cost is insane

[warped flint]

im gonna do it on "easy" mode, basically just doesnt give them those buffs

[heavy vigil]

debuffs?

[azure walrus]

is this enough buildup

[warped flint]

build supply

[dusky burrow]

do a naval invasino

[azure walrus]

is 5% a lot of attrition, theyre just training right now

a supply hub is being built

[warped flint]

oh thats fine then

[azure walrus]

how will i get a navy into that little body of water

[warped flint]

they still get this tho

[dusky burrow]

Just naval invade Finland directly

[azure walrus]

i dont even have a navy

[warped flint]

bro

so unnessacary

[void harbor]

When do I cancel mefo bills

[dusky burrow]

strategic bomber -30% cost lmao

[void harbor]

It’s 1938

[azure walrus]

there are no ports from which to do it

(this is TNO btw)

i dont think the game even considers it as an ocean tile

wait

[warped flint]

they start with this to

[azure walrus]

you mean from sankt petersburg?

[warped flint]

so 20% off fighters instantly

[uncut wraith]

why the hell am i getting strikes if i’m fighting a defensive war and i have 95% war support

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

TNO combat is basically vanilla combat btw

[azure walrus]

i thought TNO combat was easy

[uncut wraith]

great i just ended one wave of strikes and 3 days later they start AGAIN

did czechoslovakians actually strike this much or does the game just hate me

[void harbor]

Should I cancel mefo bills as the Germans

[graceful cove]

Just started playing this game, my brain feels like it's about to explode, is this normal lol

[void harbor]

It gets worse

Lol

[graceful cove]

Oh dear

[opal nymph]

Never

If you have them, keep them

When you declare war, have economy of conquest

Once you have the pyramid scheme, you have to keep expanding it

[opal nymph]

It has a steep learning curve

[graceful cove]

Yeah I noticed, expecting some severe depression and regret coming my way

[maiden verge]

Depends on your plans, autarky or economic growth

[slim idol]

Bro I always do economic growth

[opal nymph]

PEG is alright

Especially good if not doing a 39/40 war

[slim idol]

It has better buffs for economy, and you don't have 75% consumer goods

[opal nymph]

As long as you learn from mistakes, gou should be fine

[opal nymph]

Why do you have 75% consumer goods

Do you make the RKs before you steal gold?

[slim idol]

I don't conquest enough

[opal nymph]

Well

That is a problem, isnt it

I get autarky achieved in 1940

So, not much of an issue

[slim idol]

Yeah, it really depends on your play style

[opal nymph]

Well I do 39 wars lol

[slim idol]

Same

[graceful cove]

I can make the mistakes, learning from them though...

[meager nest]

It really depends

[opal nymph]

My consumer goods go negative from taking French gold

Should be enough to coast through taking the Soviets if you dont take out Britain

[slim idol]

Unless I'm doing like a Chinese warlord, I'll try to start invading at least by 39 or a giant faction will form

[meager nest]

If you’re doing anything other than historical Germans or maybe imperial path, then yeah

[opal nymph]

The point of Germany is fighting the Allies and Soviets

Why avoid the big war

Just do the war when you are ready and they are not

[kind vale]

Not entirely

[opal nymph]

The Soviets are always weak until they fight a major

[opal nymph]

Wdym

Talking about historical

[kind vale]

Democratic or communist germany isnt centered around fighting

[kind vale]

Oh mb

[opal nymph]

Democratic is built around the Soviet war btw

Well used to

Now it is Mittleuropa

[slim idol]

In pretty much all the German paths, it's half just clicking a decision or focus and it will annex or flip a nation to your puppet

[opal nymph]

And fighting the Soviets

[maiden verge]

All roads will eventually lead to war against the world

In case of Germany, you dont have much alternative, in the end you will fight the soviets on way or another

[opal nymph]

I think Stalinist Germany just NAPs with Stalin

[maiden verge]

Literally Rome-Carthago of Europe

[opal nymph]

Spartacus might be fighting the Soviets

[quasi shoal]

like 2 things in the fascist path

and the ones in demo and communist are just like most other demo paths and some other communist paths

[quasi shoal]

spartacus is like

press button and annex most of the world

and then you can invade soviets if you are feeling fancy

[slim idol]

Sparticus is basically democratic path but you go against the whole world rather than just europe

[opal nymph]

Democratic is fun for building the EU

[slim idol]

If you want the EU, just do Belgium

More of a challenge

[opal nymph]

But muh power trip

[azure walrus]

As the former German collaborators build up their army, the Northern Russian Republic under Vladimir Kirpichnikov stabilizes and integrates the swath of land it occupies and the Finnish sit on their ass and kick rocks. Mikhail Oktan and the All-Muscovite Congress have seized the chance provided by the German Civil War and martial law to consolidate their power and rise above the Germans, and have refused Bormann's advances to reclaim Moskowien. Meanwhile, in Western Russia, the Order of St. George unified West Russia and promptly got their ass beat by Finland and Onega because they don't actually core anything. Their northern lands was occupied by Kirpichnikov's guard while the south gave way to various resurgent national movements, all of which would soon be annexed into Oktan's fiefdom. Now, with that mess(as well as the Orenburg anarchy and the Ural League) cleared up, and tensions rising between the two factions, it is clear as day that a second west Russian war is soon approaching...

[restive sable]

democratic paths are my personal favorite

[azure walrus]

i am moskowien btw)

[opal nymph]

Based

Ive always enjoyed democratic paths

[restive sable]

democratic japan and germany are both really fun

i enjoy them quite a lot especially with their reworked trees

[maiden verge]

Nice writing

[azure walrus]

ty

[void harbor]

Yeah but we got 85% consumer goods factories lol

[azure walrus]

undeserved hype for dumb and dumber over here tbh

[maiden verge]

The process of bring HRE back its satisfying

[opal nymph]

What caused this situation

Have you done the decisions to reduce it?

Have you been stealing gold?

[void harbor]

Yes but it keeps going up

[opal nymph]

Well yeah

You got to eventually do the focus autarky achieved

You got to blitzkrieg before your economy explodes

[void harbor]

Yeah but I don’t have any foreign territory yet

[opal nymph]

What year is it?

[void harbor]

May 1939

[opal nymph]

Oh dang

Did you steal czech and Austrian gold?

[void harbor]

Yes

We are down to 80%

Consumer goods

[opal nymph]

Well, guess it is time to start invading

[void harbor]

Yes

Danzig or war

[opal citrus]

GUYS

IM IN EPSTEINS OUTLOOK ACCOUNT

THERES LIKE 50 OTHER PEOPLE IN HERE TOO

[void harbor]

To be continued

I have so many fighters

Perhaps not enough CAS

Are Tac bombers still considered shitty or do we like them now?

[safe wing]

Turd Furgeson pfp?

[void harbor]

That’s not my name

[heavy vigil]

@maiden verge dont say that again.

[safe wing]

It’s from that snl skit

[void harbor]

Yeah what do you want

[safe wing]

Nothing my parents quote that all the time

[void harbor]

Yeah well that’s your opinion

[maiden verge]

Truly sorry, I forgot offensive language in the rules are also applicable casually

[faint juniper]

@mortal kayak

Password?

[void harbor]

Is sea lion still a joke?

Like is it stupid easy or did they finally fix it?