hoi4-general

[fair horizon]

italy doesnt even use their fleet since the ncns update

[quasi shoal]

I should redo a japan playthrough

Now that im locked in

[gilded wasp]

italian etheopia was completely alive and well

[quasi shoal]

Nah they do

[gilded wasp]

so i had 2 fronts to worry about

[quasi shoal]

It just gets obliterated

Quickly

[gilded wasp]

and they had a garrison on the port, and the port is near mountains, I couldnt get my boys to control the port soo..

didnt matter if I made advances

[fair horizon]

chat whos gonna win?

[gilded wasp]

damn nazis just poured in 3 divisons per 1 divison i encircled 😭

well

nazis, italians, and etheopians

and a wierd bit of vichy troops even though like 11 were encircled and obliterated near morocco

this ai baffles me in a way i never imagined till now

[fair horizon]

CHAT MY FIRST SHIP

[eternal aspen]

Nice

[fair horizon]

honestly really enjoying south africa

my infantry dominated because i have supply and they dont

[full jewel]

is thundering at our gates the next dlc?

[quasi shoal]

Yup

[fair horizon]

w/e the australia one is

just waiting for q2

[gilded wasp]

peakkk

[quasi shoal]

Which is thundering at our gates iirc

And then after that is czech dlc

Which is dumb that it's only one country

[fair horizon]

idgaf what its called i want an australia fix

[quasi shoal]

It's coming

[full jewel]

cool hopefully base game get some more stuff

[quasi shoal]

Along with siam, indonesia, and sumn else

Nz i think?

[quasi shoal]

It will

[fair horizon]

even the ai doesnt have 4 research slots in 1942

[quasi shoal]

You can see what's coming on the dlc page

[full jewel]

I sort of mean like whats already in the dlc version of the game like air or tanks maybe even agency

[quasi shoal]

Tanks or spies will be next if anything

Doubtful that it's next dlc tho

[full jewel]

https://giphy.com/gifs/LouiseStephens01-homer-woohoo-69BVZYx9De3qEaZ4zC

[warped flint]

I dont know why they removed the aircraft like prority thing the thing where you can have an air wing be set to only decommisioned or only modern aircraft in one thing

Cause it was helpfull with the aircraft conversion

[quasi shoal]

You can

I think

Just in a diff location

[warped flint]

How?

ill look

[quasi shoal]

I said i think

I saw it in a menu once

But i never use it

[warped flint]

I sent how right as you said you think

[sudden gulch]

Biggest Ma clique

[woven gate]

i'm so glad i won as France

now what Great Power should i do next?

i've done USA, UK, France, and Italy

[brittle cypress]

you seem to be missing two of the big ones

[tacit crane]

which version of china is better: ncns or 8yor

[woven gate]

idk which to do first because Germany just seems to get rolled by the USSR and the USSR used to get rolled by Germany

i think the USSR will be easier

Japan's gonna be by far the hardest

[brittle cypress]

yeah they're less work

the ussr

try them they're fun

[woven gate]

i might do USSR, Germany, Japan

[brittle cypress]

it'll either be hard or too easy

[woven gate]

i've done China too

[woven gate]

when i'm fighting Germany at a disadvantage i just spam Fighters

[sudden gulch]

What is the best template for border clashes

[woven gate]

France was the first nonhist game that i ran though

[dusky burrow]

I mean you could always turn Ethiopia into a bunch of puppets

[azure walrus]

Or the AOI

[fair horizon]

the mighty south african fleet

chat i dont want to admit it but i lost that carrier like instantly when some subs showed up lmao

kinda forgot france had a navy

[dusky burrow]

Where did the rest of your screens go

[fair horizon]

i never had any

like that is my entire navy

[woven gate]

one aircraft carrier and a cruiser

[fair horizon]

one cruiser*

probs should have put the carrier in a seperate fleet and let it's planes do the thing but w/e

only like a 5k ic loss

[dusky burrow]

You should not build carriers without proper screens

Unfortunate

[fair horizon]

well i planned on having more done but apparently you need steel for them

its the first naval blunder ive made

i kinda built it just for naval supremacy anyways so no harm donw

[woven gate]

i just don't really build grand navies

unless i'm the US, UK, Italy, or Japan

[fair horizon]

carrier 2

i usually build navies but this time i just didnt

[woven gate]

i usually have bigger things to deal with

[fair horizon]

well i planned on building enough to naval invade portugal and then i got into a war with briaian

britian

[woven gate]

usually i'm used to fast, mobile wars but i learned how to win a modern slogfest against Germany as France

[fair horizon]

and now france is in it

so now im just fighting my way through africa

[woven gate]

2 Aggressive, Fast Militaries duking it out and it ended in about 2.5M Deaths between France and Germany

i did win because i'm good tactically but it had some stressful moments

[woven gate]

remember supply

[fair horizon]

yeah not an issue

honestly though i thought id have more building slots but nah

[woven gate]

that's africa

[green lodge]

I guess fucck me

[dusky burrow]

It's 1936 at least and you have the rest of the country

You have time

Also set up a frontline

[cedar kite]

let them take one tile thats not a vp

[dusky burrow]

Absolutely don't

[green lodge]

Yeah it's done

[dusky burrow]

That'd make them almost invincible

If you attack hard enough and they lose org, they disappear

this is why encirclements work

[cedar kite]

sometimes the ai is dumb enough to leave the tile open

[dusky burrow]

also their stats are debuffed by 30% when confined to one tile

[green lodge]

That did happen and i somehow got encircled but i loaded back, encircled them and now i'm healing

However if i go down Golden Emir path, should i go down Quami or Nufus
Quami buffs ireggulars but you can have 24 max

While Prussia of the Orients is ahuge buff to all troops

[cedar kite]

i only go down quami if id do mughal

[green lodge]

Why ?

I went Mughal last three times, militia was still meh

[cedar kite]

but the golden emir path does give ierregular buffs

[cedar kite]

insane cav buffs

[green lodge]

I prolly didn't get elephants soon enough

Fah

I focused on industry

[cedar kite]

50% attack 55% defense and 15% speed

on cav

doesnt even count the buffs you get from new doctrine

also if you grind out a cav genius

[green lodge]

Mounted Infantry ?

[cedar kite]

yep

[green lodge]

How would you do that

What's a cav genius

Oh that

[cedar kite]

do you have nsb?

[green lodge]

Second page

This ?

[cedar kite]

you can promote a general to the chief of command and cav geniuses get 15% cav attack and defense

[cedar kite]

yes

[green lodge]

Time to go kill Iran for their cores 🥀

[cedar kite]

you can bait iran into declaring war on you and keep sabadact pact spirit

[green lodge]

MY GUY

They don't start the focus for some reason 🥀

I'll kill them all and do it afterwards

[hardy furnace]

I cant declare war on Mexico as the US because they havent contributed to world tension

How do I get around this

[green lodge]

Hope they get in a faction

[heady ether]

I think there is an event where you can get a free war goal on them

[dusky burrow]

Yeah just promote someone else

[flint raptor]

What's an early Sealion?

Like year wise ik what sealion is

[quasi shoal]

like before '39

that's pretty early

[flint raptor]

Oh god

[green lodge]

OLIVE, WHAT'S THE BEST AIR DOCTRINE

[flint raptor]

That'd be pretty impressive I don't know how they could bolster Naval strength that early

[green lodge]

Any year before the US joins is good imho

You just paratroop or use your fleet, it's pretty easy

I did it once in 38, wasn't fast enough 🥀

[flint raptor]

I mean paratroopers make sense but I don't know how you'd bolster navy that much

Like Germany is kind of weak there, no?

[green lodge]

Eh

Oh yeah i was Lithuania, i just ganked the French fleet
It might've been 40

[flint raptor]

I also just don't know navy

Damn that's crazy to me

[green lodge]

If you patrol in the front, i managed to land 15 divs i think

Then i just brought the rest of them over

[flint raptor]

Right now I'm 40' march w France Freshly capitulated how's that looking for me?

[green lodge]

But then Sweden joined and my troops were stuck in Britiain innit 🥀

[green lodge]

Uh how's your fleet

[flint raptor]

Oh that blows

[green lodge]

I ganked the Soviets' as well cuz they had a civil war

Place your subs in a different task force

[flint raptor]

92 total, 40 subs, 34 destroyers, 4 heavies, 10 light cruisers, 2 battle cruisers, 2 battle ships

[green lodge]

And set all your other ships to patrol in front of the isles, you should hopefully be able to get dominance

[flint raptor]

My airforce is relatively strong though

[green lodge]

have you researched paratroopers though ?

[flint raptor]

Yes

[green lodge]

Nice

I don't know how paratroops work sadly 🥀

[flint raptor]

I have like an ok idea

[green lodge]

I've only naval invaded once time and that was Britian

[flint raptor]

you drop them in and pray they can overrun the forces on the tile

[royal ridge]

anyone wanna play

[still crystal]

Or just pray that nothing is on the tile

[flint raptor]

That too

[royal ridge]

can i join you ethanol

[flint raptor]

I have no clue how to set up multiplayer and what would u play as?

[royal ridge]

either germany or america

[still crystal]

I've spent almost a year in Poland as Communist Germany fighting the USSR & Lithuania alone
My army is stronger but supply is a mild pain sometimes and they have so many troops oh my god

[flint raptor]

I'm already Germany

[royal ridge]

ok

historical or alt

[flint raptor]

WORD they pull like 800 million people out of no where

Like they change from volunteer to limited and get an extra million people

[flint raptor]

Historic

[royal ridge]

k do you want me to help you host also what dlc do you have

[flint raptor]

I have none

[royal ridge]

ok do you want me to host cause i have all

[green lodge]

Bruh what did i do

[still crystal]

Lithuania with the big stacks too just how and why

[green lodge]

I love Lithuania

Especially the Commonwealth 🥀

[flint raptor]

If I can ever win with Germany what Nation is a good one to play?

[still crystal]

I'm struggling more against Lithuania than I am with the Soviets

[flint raptor]

What year?

[quasi shoal]

for what

[still crystal]

Late '43 I think

[warped flint]

is it worth replacing any of the first 3 dudes to get the fourth guy for conversion?

[green lodge]

Uh as a minor what would you recommend

[quasi shoal]

like grand doctrine?

[green lodge]

Bro they're all goated

[green lodge]

For the air ?

[flint raptor]

Oh when I was a lot worse at the game I soiled my britches at the thought of fighting the Allies so I waited till like 44' to start fighting and got whooped by Belgium

[warped flint]

Yeahhh

[quasi shoal]

yes

I believe it's battlefield support

[still crystal]

Lmao

[quasi shoal]

that might be wrong tho

I don't know my air doctrines too well

[green lodge]

Well looks like i chose that too

[fair horizon]

ez

[royal ridge]

so does anyone want to play

[green lodge]

I don't think i'll touch Navy so that can sit there

[fair horizon]

chat look at my new fleet

[quasi shoal]

3 light cruisers 🥶

[flint raptor]

I hate Hungary

[warped flint]

Hungary is so fun tho

[flint raptor]

Oh no I just like being mean to them as the Reich

[warped flint]

me to

steal everything they own

[flint raptor]

tell them to kick rocks cause what're they gonna do? fight back?

[warped flint]

steal all of their money

[flint raptor]

I will say I suck at the game and Germany is kind of easy but hard

[green lodge]

They join the Commintern 🥀

[flint raptor]

Cause their super attack buffs

[flint raptor]

Yeah...

[quasi shoal]

then just kill the soviets

[fair horizon]

BEHOLD

[quasi shoal]

annex all of africa bro

[fair horizon]

WORKING ON IT

[quasi shoal]

and then release the countries and make border gore

[flint raptor]

Y'all got any tips for Germany when fighting the USSR

If I'm really screwed I just balkanize everythign I can

[quasi shoal]

tanks

air

tanks are optional tbh

[warped flint]

Just get air supremacy

cas is insanely op

[flint raptor]

I feel like I do both of those things and get bent over the knee and spanked firmly

[warped flint]

Do you have by blood alone and no step back?

[flint raptor]

I don't know what those are so probably not

[warped flint]

DLCS

[flint raptor]

Im gonna guess doctrines?

I do not

I'm totally base game

[warped flint]

Hmmm

[fair horizon]

gross

[warped flint]

I havent played base game since I got the game

and then i got the dlcs after like a month with subscription

Well shit thats gonna expire soon

[quasi shoal]

I played it for like a month or two

then I got all the dlcs

besides GoE and ToA

[fair horizon]

btw

ive taken the toes from the boot

[green lodge]

CHAT
THE SOVIETS HAD A CIVIL WAR

And i got some puppets somehow

Is this because i incited rebellion

[flint raptor]

What should I set my subs to do? Strike or what?

[rare scarab]

is this enough men as the soviets

[rare scarab]

convoy raiding if you wanna disrupt enemy trade

they'll just sink convoys

[flint raptor]

I want dominance will they help w that

[warped flint]

not even close to enough

[rare scarab]

subs dont give dominance

like at all

[warped flint]

conscript the entire nation

[rare scarab]

use your normal fleets for that

[flint raptor]

Oh ok thanks

[azure walrus]

unite africa as italian east africa

next

👍

[fair horizon]

gross no

[cedar kite]

pashtunistan gives war goals on every country with your claims

[fair horizon]

huh

i thought japan was bigger

poland has taken europe

confusing times

[quasi shoal]

fighter 3s in october 19th 1937

holy shit

japan air rush is crazy

and I didn't even make it as fast as possible

[inland falcon]

Sheeeesh elephants are kinda cracked

[fair horizon]

hannibal pre-crossing the alps:

[kind vale]

ww2 better

[warped flint]

Theres a 15% bonus in spirit of the airforce

[fair horizon]

i will be using that from now on

[kind vale]

would it still keep the 15% if you start a plane then switch to a different one

[warped flint]

Yeah

[kind vale]

ahhh alr

[wraith mauve]

When does uk stop guaranteeing random ass nations that I just open the diplomacy tab for

[slim nexus]

Invade anyways

[quasi shoal]

I know

I put that on just before saying the date

I did some other research bonuses before it tho

[warped flint]

?

I feel the 10% bonus is worth swapping one out but im not sure which

[quasi shoal]

are you doing tank converts

if so you can prolly drop recovery rate for a bit

[warped flint]

Aircraft and tank

[quasi shoal]

isn't aircraft converts like not that efficient

[warped flint]

no they work well

[craggy trail]

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[craggy trail]

Hello hello!

[cedar lance]

wassup tails

[craggy trail]

Doing pretty good

Currently just going through my game on one of the recently reworked countries for Equestria at War.

[cedar lance]

nice tails

im just trying to find side images of tanks etc

@craggy trail

[coral gorge]

damn it

their industry is really not in Siberia after all;

[craggy trail]

Excavation support equipment

[fair horizon]

south africa is a good nation ngl

[dusky burrow]

Oof, wars going so bad you're digging through mountains

[fair horizon]

i love carrier cas

[cedar lance]

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/
this is where i can get most of the tank mbt afv ifv and apc side images

[craggy trail]

They're pretty much experts at mining and excavation, even building cities both above and underground

[cedar lance]

for my hoi4 multi mod

since i like LARPing

[fair horizon]

what mod is this from?

[craggy trail]

Equestria at War

Part of our Thaumaturgy department special projects

[green lodge]

BRO WHAT

THe SOVIETS JSUT MAGICALLY TELEPORTED ALL MY TROOPS BACK

AND THEY TOOK THE LAND BACK >>

WTF

[cedar lance]

Really?

[green lodge]

GODAMN :SOB

[fair horizon]

wym? like they took the state?

[green lodge]

That red part in the middle

Look at those 52 divs 🥀

[pseudo raven]

Is it Clone army reference "Magical Force multiplication"

https://tenor.com/view/boarding-clone-wars-clones-marching-battalions-gif-20468322

[green lodge]

They get the command 🥀
I don't have it in me for another soviet war in 1939

WAit i think it was cuz anothe war just ended

Oh they were fighting the germans as well as the soviets and they lost that war to the germans rah

I just white peaced them

I realise i haev no mills

Fah

Civ greeding takes you to 32 mills to 80 civs

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-money-spongebob-spongebob-meme-dancing-gif-2119664832927611941

[cursive oxide]

I'm trying hungary rn cus I want to form Austria Hungary but the axis keeps steeling my land and the allies ar useless

Any tips ?

I have no dlcs btw

[fair horizon]

could try ahistorical

[cursive oxide]

Prop

[dusky burrow]

do your political focuses first

so that you get your lands before the axis does

[green lodge]

I lied

[cedar lance]

hello liv

[dusky burrow]

and then you just bunker down in sudeten

[green lodge]

I just took over Iran and the raj

[dusky burrow]

hellow markomrm

You just took over Raj? Oh my

[cursive oxide]

I speed run Austria

[dusky burrow]

Speedrun Czechs too

[cursive oxide]

But I can't get the 🇨🇿

The never expected the offer

[green lodge]

It's been a year or two, i'm building mills there
I hope it can strike a balance 🥀

[dusky burrow]

If you have to you can integrate the railways first, but depends on what works for you

[green lodge]

I crashed my game

YAY

https://tenor.com/view/new-edition-tommybrown-tommy-smoking-gif-26152294

See you guys tomorrow for continued suffering or maybe.. another restart YAY

[cedar lance]

are there mods that adds stuff from 1900 till 2026?

[daring totem]

I like how everybody ignores my questions

[fair horizon]

money

but more importantly

they want us australia mains to suffer

[dusky burrow]

i guess they can't do too much work, but they will next dlc

[cursive oxide]

can you join vc>?

[cursive oxide]

can you join vc ?

[fair horizon]

why

convoy raiding with carriers ❤️

britian is getting theirs now

oh i took them from 200 ships to like 50 in around a month lmao

[cedar lance]

someone answer this

[fair horizon]

oops i blewed up some of my new ships

[dusky burrow]

just one

the other one's a torpedo bomber

[cedar lance]

as Estonia im gonna mass produce and build 236 250 000 units of ALL Techs and equipments

and basically use the Ale console command to get them for free

so i never run out of techs and equipments

[fair horizon]

lmao

how does an infantry div have almost 900 breakthrough

oh wait im an idiot

those are my troops

also i dont understand planes at all apparently

[cedar lance]

i like mods on Hoi4

my top 3 are Bice Md and cwic

and a couple few small smaller ones

[fair horizon]

is this not good enough to beat the ai spitfires?

[inland falcon]

how long until NSB is integrated into base game

[fair horizon]

like what am i doing wrong

im using the pinned meta garbage fighter

[austere pelican]

why do u only have 500

[fair horizon]

because i dont have the industry to beat a major

[austere pelican]

true....

[warped flint]

Well first your heavily outnumbered....

and also are your planes trained?

Fuel?

[static creek]

Doing a 🇬🇷 run

[fair horizon]

yep, i just dont have enough i guess

apparently theres now way to win when your agility is slightly less than w/e theirs is

[cedar lance]

hello lord admiral

[cursive oxide]

im cooked

[warped flint]

Get like 1000 and you should be good

[fair horizon]

2 years got it

and yes i know they're carrier planes

they're running out of equipment lmao

im bleeding them dry

[cedar lance]

im gonna add new Resource material factories for ALL nations

becus i dont like trading

[warped flint]

me to

Thats why I hate going free trade

have to literally trade for everything

[warped flint]

Are you only puttting on 15 cause of rubber issues?

[cedar lance]

alr ches

[fair horizon]

only have that many factories

well

to spare

[cedar lance]

im gonna add oil factories

and etc

[fair horizon]

only have around 60 mils rn

[cedar lance]

aswell as manpower factory

so you dont have to do anymore concsription laws

[warped flint]

Usa oil factorie*

All oil is actually american

they owned it back like in negative -2 year

[cedar lance]

alr

i mean like synthetic oil

[dusky burrow]

You have too few planes

[warped flint]

hahaha

funny number

😂

🗿 🍷

[fair horizon]

planes are for nerds anyways

[warped flint]

Alr ima start this tommorow

i am playing as meta as i can

[cedar lance]

alr

[fair horizon]

get got stinky

[cedar lance]

i will add ches a manpower factory

and manpower buildings

[warped flint]

build everything in wisconsin state

best state in the game

[cedar lance]

alr

[warped flint]

Can you guys guess which vp I live in in wisconsin

[cedar lance]

ill also add other buildings for different purposes

[warped flint]

I really wonder

[fair horizon]

great job navy attacking the ONLY TILE WITH THE FRENCH FLEET

F

rip my cruisers

[warped flint]

W navy

[molten forge]

can someone explain something as simple as using subs

[fair horizon]

btw they're just sitting there, not even fighting or anything

[cedar lance]

basically synthetic rubber factory

ill add that aswell

[fair horizon]

eh w/e my carriers survived

[cedar lance]

@warped flint whatcu think bout these ideas

[warped flint]

Sound good

[cedar lance]

thx

[fair horizon]

mfw france has a bigger navy than britian after i got done ripping them in half

[cursive oxide]

i hate the uk bro

i got kicked from the allies

like why

[warped flint]

srew

[warped flint]

2 tiles away

[neat kayak]

Overrated

WW2 Germany wasn't strong

They only defeated France bc of the French pride

[kind vale]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-jerry-laughing-3amskypecall-gif-1225091949170588240

[neat kayak]

🥀

France was too proud of their victory of ww1

That they didn't upgrade their army

And was still on ww1 technology

[fair horizon]

me when i forget to upgrade guns because im on concentrated 4 in 1940

[warped flint]

france had better tanks then germany in 1940

it was just that they werent concentrated, german tanks were

[neat kayak]

But not better tactics

The French hoped for another trench warfare

[warped flint]

Yeah\

[neat kayak]

That's what caused their demise

But that doesn't mean that Germany in ww2 was stronger than the ww1 one

[warped flint]

Tho italy still couldnt beat france 💔

shits pathetic

[warped flint]

WW1 one was more prepared for longer war

[neat kayak]

Yep

France was so eager to take revenge in ww1

[warped flint]

Germany expected britain would peace with them

[neat kayak]

They took in consideration even the long way

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[neat kayak]

In both wws Germany couldn't won

No matter if USA was in or not

WW1 the british had more colonies and resources

[warped flint]

WW1 was the closest they could get

[neat kayak]

• the blockade

[warped flint]

But even if the us didnt join they would lose

people seem to think the us was the deciding thing

[cedar lance]

hey ches

wassup

[warped flint]

Yo

[neat kayak]

And ww2 was just a set of strings ready to fall apart at the biggest mistake

Which did

[warped flint]

alr ima

go to bed....

[neat kayak]

On June 22 1941

[cedar lance]

bye gn ches

[neat kayak]

Gn ches

[cedar lance]

hello main

wassup

[neat kayak]

Howdy

[cedar lance]

wassup

[neat kayak]

Going to high-school

[cedar lance]

oh alr

[neat kayak]

You?

[cedar lance]

when can we chat then

[cedar lance]

i went to shower just now

[neat kayak]

We can chat anytime

[cedar lance]

nice

i will add a lot of new buildings to hoi4

[neat kayak]

It's the final year and besides 3 subjects everything is much calmer than the previous year

[cedar lance]

like resource material factories and buildings

aswell other equipment and tech factories

and manpower factory

and rubber factory etc

@neat kayak

ill also add different manpower buildings

which gives a certain amount of manpower

you can build as many of em as yalls wants

in Singleplayer i mean

[neat kayak]

Nice

[cedar lance]

ALL of these will be added to my hoi4 multi mod

i will remove the building slot limit

so yalls can build whatever and as many

[kind vale]

Should rework the tank designer

[cedar lance]

why?

[kind vale]

For fun

[cedar lance]

alr

sure

[kind vale]

Should make it to where you can change different parts like the chassis, turret, gun, ect

[cedar lance]

alr sure

ill also add new ship naval air and infantry techs and equipments

and a lot of new combat units and templates

@kind vale

and new tank and vehicle techs equipments

[kind vale]

Yes

Fire

[cedar lance]

what

basically my hoi4 multi mod will and shall add stuff from 1900s till 2026

@kind vale

[kind vale]

Thatd be cool

Cold war shit would be amazing

[cedar lance]

it will be cool and amazing

ill add so many new special projects units and templates aswell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_organization#Army

basically from these

the modern units

from fire and maneuver team to region theater

[cedar lance]

and a lot of variations of these basic units and templates

@kind vale

so you can like overrun the enemies like ussr

with sheer manpower

[kind vale]

😭😭

[kind vale]

50 soldiers for 1 gun

[cedar lance]

what

[fair horizon]

chat is my kd good?

[cedar lance]

@kind vale

[kind vale]

What?

50 soldiers and 1 gun for all 50

[cedar lance]

wdym by this?

[kind vale]

What i said just now

[robust basalt]

fighting India as saf?

[cedar lance]

oh alr

[robust basalt]

insane matchup

[fair horizon]

yes

already beat britian so

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[slim nexus]

I just came

[cedar lance]

anyone got any ideas on what else to add to my hoi4 multi mod?

@kind vale

yalls can gib whatever new ideas either here or in dms pms

[kind vale]

Space and new planets to conquer

[cedar lance]

alr

[kind vale]

Put oil on mars and let the usa ai run wild

[cedar lance]

i need mostly tech equipment special projects unit and template ideas

@kind vale

ill also add new tank mbt afv ifv and apc techs equipments

and new vehicle and armored vehicle tech and equipment

ill add these resource/material factories at first:
Steel factory

• Rubber factory
• Aluminium factory
• Tungsten factory
• Chromium factory

and oil and manpower aswell

@kind vale

[fair horizon]

i hate anything to do with planes

[cursive oxide]

im in a faticon with the uk and there or protection the Yugoslavians if i do war with yugo wil the uk kick me and delcer war >?

[pale flare]

best country for human wave stuff, possibly using militias?

not a major if possible

[icy egret]

You don’t look to be in the same faction as the UK

[icy egret]

Communist China or other Chinese warlords.

[cursive oxide]

the keep kicking me

😭

[icy egret]

The Bosnians are in the allies so you csnr declare war on a faction member anyways

[icy egret]

As for WHICH China, vanilla ones are okay but Kaiserreich and Kaiserredux have really good Chinese content too that allows more options

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[pale flare]

yeah i was leaning to that, does fascist china also have them or nah?

not interested in mods, im pretty much just casually hunting achievements

oh hey

[distant knoll]

All the Chinese nations have militia bonuses I believe

[pale flare]

ah, neat

[iron creek]

This game really want me to suffer 😭

I was starting my 4th game ever, still as Italy as I guess learning only one nation is better at start

I still suck at this game, but less

I managed to crush Greece, and I was getting progress against Romania (with many difficulties because well, I suck)

And all of a sudden, Romania joined the Axis and Germany declared war against me...

Worst part is that I think I could have managed Germany's attack if I wasn't so bad at the game

[icy egret]

I would assume so but nationalist China is a major.

[tawdry nebula]

Why you was at War against Germany?

And good afternoon guys.

[iron creek]

Bcs I attacked Romania (it was independent at first but later join the Axis and it was over)

[icy egret]

Invade faster

[wild marten]

nice

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[fair horizon]

post peace deal africa (i puppeted britian and india)

[cedar lance]

@tawdry nebula hello

wassup best?

[prime lintel]

[fair horizon]

chat do you like border gore?

[cedar lance]

nah

[clear otter]

Good morning/afternoon. Does anyone know someone here who goes by Shanomatic, BloodLust2593, or Shane Jackonski?

[mental mantle]

Is this template good to hold off the germans in barbarossa?

1 infantry, 1 antiair
with
1 engineering company

[fair horizon]

Sounds awful, can you take a picture?

[inland falcon]

yeah man this'll totally hold them off

[atomic grove]

no

1 infantry battallion???

u gotta be ragebaiting

[mental mantle]

yes

[spring relic]

hello for garveyard of empires achivement must i stay as the raj

coz i didnt get it as the timurid

[heavy vigil]

isnt it afghan?

[spring relic]

nah it said either the or

raj iran irag or afghanistan

[meager valley]

Afghanistan begging everyone for resources gets annoying 😂

[heavy vigil]

they will give you the resources if your opinion is high

[cedar lance]

@heavy vigil hello

[spring relic]

ill do it with afghan then

suits the achivement

[uncut pollen]

Dude stop

[heavy vigil]

hiya

[vast depot]

While I know making the flag art the same aspect ratio would require a UI redesign, it'd make modding somewhat simpler by allowing either the large or small flag to be scaled up/down to the other sizes.

[undone dove]

new day new achievement hunt

today ill try to do this

[sly venture]

is this winnable

[undone dove]

did you upgrade your mio

and did you use extra fuel tanks and allat

military industrial organisation

[rare sand]

are you gonna encircle them?

[undone dove]

these

[full cedar]

Is there anyone Greek?

[undone dove]

take the ones for range

[green lodge]

BRO
THOSE REQUIRE TIME

[dapper orchid]

SCREW YOU ENGLAND

[brave fjord]

watch me kill this chat

[analog ivy]

should i go mass assault 32 width inf spam? with mass charge tactic?

[sudden thistle]

Why did u do so little

[toxic cypress]

just be arpad

[undone dove]

dumbass general only levelled up defence

[glass berry]

is fascist path for china just 70 day war goals or is it just me?

[safe elbow]

@amber rose

[bronze mango]

The italy world conquest achievement

[sudden thistle]

Did u do the bold attack

In that army spirit thing

[cedar monolith]

mexico isnt having a good time

their poor allies! 🤣

[undone dove]

neither, i didnt pick anything yet

yet everything went into defence

[faint carbon]

no

just restart at that point

[sly venture]

german npc cant take netherlands after 7 years

[ionic yoke]

how many divisions did u encircle?

[undone dove]

DUDE UK

[undone dove]

where do i see these stats

[pine gull]

daaaang, two prides of the fleet at once

[undone dove]

why did you skip yugo

i never skip yugo

[pine gull]

they are a puppet. I was planning to take on Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania alone but then they joined the allies, so ww2 began earlier lol

[undone dove]

honestly just annex albania then demand montenegro throne so you get a free wargoal

do a collab beforehand tho

[prisma saddle]

for the armor meme i can just use a inter war heavy tank?

[undone dove]

ye

[prisma saddle]

ita?

[undone dove]

sure

[prisma saddle]

a si?

[pine gull]

thats actually very smart! thxx

[undone dove]

no hablo italiano

[inland falcon]

Tbf I think they can say yes to this

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[undone dove]

they can and they can not

usually they dont

[inland falcon]

Tbf you can also just integrate them through the puppet system if they're a puppet

[undone dove]

and spend ages building forts instead of mills or civs in your core land

[cedar lance]

wassup yalls

[slim nexus]

Build civ and mil in pupoet then

[oak bone]

If anyones playing multiplayer message me and I’ll join, I have all mods except the South America one

[inland falcon]

Alternatively you could just leave them be

Have them as your little puppet state and do nothing with them

[undone dove]

MORE GREEN

[inland falcon]

Coloured puppets mod

[trim lotus]

So, for a general fleet destroyer (i.e. screening capital ships), do you think it's worth it to leave a slot or two empty to save on IPC/speed, or just spam torpedoes in every spare slot?

[night field]

800 flame tanks a day is nice

[undone dove]

refitting

[tender stump]

does the AI ever actually use these?
I mean they train em, but so far I have only ever seen them used as normal frontline units, is it actually possible for them to use them?
Or are they only there for raids on mines?

[azure palm]

To be honest, I dont think Tutorials are good. You should just try and try until you find your own strategy that works. Otherwise you will not become good at hoi4 probably. Could also be wrong so

[azure palm]

I dont think they actually use paratroopers

[tender stump]

I think tutorials can help you get a feel for the basics and a rough idea of how to start and from there you can very well go on by yourself

[azure palm]

yeah but you should never compleatly follow the tutorials.

[tender stump]

indeed

[azure palm]

In updates AI behavior is just different sometimes so the tutorials wont work

especially the italo-ethiopian ones for ethiopia. Those are compleatly outdated

[azure palm]

The Italo-Ethiopian war as ethiopia isnt that hard. Just turn off historical focuses and enjoy the game.

[eternal palm]

Nope

[eternal palm]

The hoi tutorial teaches the controls

And poorly at that

Guides on youtube help expanding on it, but you really only can learn anything, not only hoi, by fking around and finding hate

Hence why I dont do 1-on-1 coaching or tell people that want everything explained to them, "I can tell you the basics but you have to play the game yourself"

[uncut pollen]

i like playing hungary with this huge tree

[azure palm]

exactly. Find your own methods. Get inspired by tutorials and make them fit your play style

[frigid plank]

Anyome from Romania?

[eternal palm]

Or look at what I do

Shameless plug

[sudden thistle]

Do u guys like my cat

[unkempt wasp]

am I cooked

[unkempt wasp]

holy hell

[uncut pollen]

hungary is fun

[winged field]

hungary my beloved 🇭🇺 ❤️

[hot hatch]

belgium my beloved

[uncut pollen]

true

i love belgium

[unkempt wasp]

How am i supposed to defend now

im scared

[uncut pollen]

Declare war on switzerland

One big front line

[heavy vigil]

do you have tanks out

[unkempt wasp]

three divisions 💀

[sudden thistle]

Are u using that 100 times translate mod

[heavy vigil]

like 36w?

[uncut pollen]

Yep

[heavy vigil]

you start with all relevant tank tech

you should use it

[uncut pollen]

Honestly its funny

[unkempt wasp]

OH i was supposed to EDIT THE TEMPLATES /j?
I used division legere mechanique

[sudden thistle]

Esports Alta

[unkempt wasp]

i mean as long as my extended maginot line doesn't fall and my 20 divisions at the italian border keep up i guess i think i willl live

[mild plaza]

Excuse me

This is slander

Also how did belgium turn to the president

[heavy vigil]

cooked

[unkempt wasp]

oh also

[heavy vigil]

thats normal

france doesnt get tech for an airforce

or the better mils vs germany

your best chance is tanks

[unkempt wasp]

they have 2000 in south germany actively deployed

[heavy vigil]

yeah but you couldve known air was lost from day 1

[unkempt wasp]

i have none : sob :

[uncut pollen]

Voted

[unkempt wasp]

i mean as long as I tire them out can i live somehow

[uncut pollen]

Democracy

[mild plaza]

Why not use a field marshal front line?

[unkempt wasp]

i want less units on the actual maginot becouse germany doesn't want to push there

[mild plaza]

You can still use a field marshall line for the top part

[unkempt wasp]

doesn't a marshall line override commander line?

so all the units would go up?

[quasi ether]

hi guys

any recommendation of a good airplane template?

[atomic wolf]

for some reason if u used panzer tanks and spam it drawing a offensive line to sibreia u don't even need to mirco ur tanks just zoom through

[vital cove]

u can do that better with infantry

[steel zephyr]

no USSR factionalism 😢

might be done for

nvm we are so back??

[unkempt wasp]

the british just sent out their finest unit

[steel zephyr]

😢

[winged field]

for anyone playing hungary here is great playlist for it
https://youtu.be/EyQZL4uo1n8?si=ozedL44JbRjMSthp

[steady lake]

I took all axis, France, and were war with Northern defense front. This is what I got.

The map core is crazy

[willow hull]

this looks funney

[winged field]

British being Italy but for Allies fr

[steel thorn]

Road to 56 mod expanded conquered most of europe as Estonia and made Baltic empire

[uncut pollen]

A group of adults dressed up as soldiers with wood weapons

[unkempt wasp]

pro tip

"print screen" exists

also windows+shift+s

[steel thorn]

Ah cool nice to know

[unkempt wasp]

is UK always so stupid?

[ripe slate]

Its historical

When Denmark and Norway fall, UK wants to steal Iceland for itself

[lost parcel]

major vs half of mongolia who will win

[azure crescent]

i mean, i guess bro 😮‍💨

[lethal ether]

cant you push?

[unkempt wasp]

Im scared to push

[lethal ether]

how many tank divisions do you have

[unkempt wasp]

im fighting against gigants that outperform my economy like 4 times, no?
if i push i loose equipment and get pushed back, no?

[unkempt wasp]

T H R E E

[quasi shoal]

You can push

Just push

[quasi shoal]

Yoy don't need tanks rly to beat ai germany

[lethal ether]

youve got atleast 6

are the templates good?

[quasi shoal]

Those are prolly shit

If they're light tanks

Esp if they're the default templates

[lethal ether]

tanks make it so easy to break through the meat shield

[lethal ether]

no?? light tanks can push really well early game

[unkempt wasp]

when i select like this it shows 5-

[quasi shoal]

It makes it easy but they're not necessary

[lethal ether]

can i see the templates?

[quasi shoal]

Doesn't seem to be early game

[unkempt wasp]

i have not a single idea how to make good templates im new to this game

[unkempt wasp]

1940

[lethal ether]

at this point lets use 6w infantry, other templates make it easy but they arent necessary

[quasi shoal]

Oh mein gott bruh

[quasi shoal]

Yeah ts not any better than inf at pushing

[quasi shoal]

Yes, you can beat ai germany with only 6w infantry

[unkempt wasp]

i have like max 20 hours on this game cut me some slack-

[quasi shoal]

What i'm saying is ai is easy to beat

[unkempt wasp]

i focused on making motorized divs..

[quasi shoal]

And you're not pushing?

[lethal ether]

how many?

and template pls

[quasi shoal]

Btw regular inf has better stats than this

[unkempt wasp]

60

[lethal ether]

how many divisions u got in totaL!?

[unkempt wasp]

sorry, correction, 72
I have 108 divs

[lethal ether]

its way mre than u need to push

[unkempt wasp]

Germany itself says aprox 200-300????

[vital cove]

infantry+air>tanks

[lethal ether]

have you seen his air

he has like 25 planes

[vital cove]

yea then ita better to invest in getting an airforce than in building tanks

[quasi shoal]

Holy shit

Yikes

[lethal ether]

i thought he has ACTUAL tanks he can use

[lethal ether]

that doesnt mean theyre all on your border

[unkempt wasp]

How am I supposed to keep up when the soviets are also using german airfields??

[zenith charm]

alliedbros nooo

[sly sluice]

any NUB here? i want to play with people my own level

[whole matrix]

Noo, my agents

[azure palm]

El Salvador?

[patent thistle]

what do you personally rank more in terms of suffering, ottomans great war redux, 30 mins of hell poland or ethiopia?

[cedar monolith]

is this template ok?

[patent thistle]

not for 1940s

[cedar monolith]

how do i fix it?

[patent thistle]

mediums instant of lights

and add 3 more medium battalions to make it 30 width

[cedar monolith]

got it, theyre researching now, i went gold standard so everything is a bit odd without historical ai too, the timing is wonky, but it should be doable, 30W Med tanks, got it

[cedar monolith]

ty

[patent thistle]

and also if you ask many people you should switch the motorised with mech

[kind vale]

Or cav

[patent thistle]

i have very rarely heard the suggestion Cav

[cedar monolith]

will do, was debating it internally, i have a horse cav army already, or a different cav?

[patent thistle]

.

[cedar monolith]

will do mot i meant

[kind vale]

Its better than motorized so I use it till I got mech

[patent thistle]

cav divisions usually are not great

[kind vale]

Just switch the motorized battalions to cavalry battalions

[cedar monolith]

theyre ok for plains and qrf inside the continental us

[patent thistle]

only for occupation they are good

[kind vale]

Unless you play as poland

[patent thistle]

i have not used cav a single time for normal combat divisions

[cedar monolith]

but mot/mech would be ideal, will impliment

[patent thistle]

meme runs dont count

[kind vale]

😔

[cedar monolith]

no? they took mexicos east coast very well, and they do pretty well in canada, anywhere large and open that you dont need to waste fuel on is how i use them

unless they have actual divisions lol, tbh mexico and canada arent "big fish"

[patent thistle]

against the ai you can litterally use artillery only and it still somehow works

that doesnt count

also try to use them with the ods stacked against you

[cedar monolith]

either way, thank you all for the advice, 30W med tank divs, mot/mech divs

[patent thistle]

lights can be used up to about mid 1938 when they can get pierced by infantry

[patent thistle]

.

[kind vale]

Ethiopia

Ive lasted less than a month each attempt

[cedar monolith]

didnt know that, i dont even usually worry about tanks until then in SP

[patent thistle]

have you even seen the ottomans in great war redux?

you cant even cheese libya anymore

[kind vale]

No I haven't

[patent thistle]

let me show you

its called the first balkan war

[azure palm]

I dont know which AI is the incompetent one in italo-ethiopian war. Italy or Ethiopia.

[cursive oxide]

Both

[terse skiff]

All AI are incompetent

[patent thistle]

italy is incompetent and ethiopia is just weak

italy doesnt have an excuse to loose there yet they sometimes just do

[azure palm]

yeah but ethiopia can absolutely obliterate italy

[patent thistle]

ye but italy just has the advantage in any case

more manpower, more resources, an industry, an airforce, a navy,

[azure palm]

Nice how you said an industry. The Italian industry is shit, and the ethiopian one is nonexistent

[azure palm]

probably 30 mins in hel

ethiopia isnt THAT bad

[patent thistle]

.

[azure palm]

spain is worse

havent played it to be honest

but oh my god that looks horrible

[patent thistle]

"we have a navy-" bud the dutch have a better fleet in this mod

[cursive oxide]

Best Czechoslovakia Path?

[worn coral]

guys

[winged field]

u want to be axis or allies?

[cursive oxide]

Idk

[patent thistle]

communism for confortability, fascism if you hate yourself, democracy if you like the french

[worn coral]

the volunteers i sent to brazil havent come back even tho the civil war is over

[cursive oxide]

You can also go commitern right?

[worn coral]

commitern

comenter is crazy

[patent thistle]

comintern*

[worn coral]

what do i do

[worn coral]

mb

[normal yoke]

b b based?

[patent thistle]

anyways, time to suffer as the turks

[worn coral]

can i get an answer pls

[winged field]

fascist if you want to quickly take austria italy altogether

[normal yoke]

best middle east

[winged field]

takes time to transport or died

[worn coral]

no

they are still there

in brazil

[winged field]

just move them home then?

[worn coral]

i cant

they are registered as volunteers

[winged field]

wierd

[worn coral]

another thing

what does recon give?

i see a lot of youtubers saying its good for line arty

but i looked at the stats and it barely makes any difference

[patent thistle]

i have 6 civs i cant even use rn

[azure palm]

ottomans?

[worn coral]

what country?

[azure crescent]

i somehow beat the reich i made the winning play

[azure palm]

ALF LANDON???

[azure crescent]

yes

[worn coral]

map gore

[azure palm]

so you are gonna help make a facist government in the USA?

[azure crescent]

no

[old acorn]

I mean hes too lazy to even campaign in the elections

Not suprised

[patent thistle]

ye

[south mountain]

Hi

[worn coral]

why does blud dislike germany

[azure crescent]

who winning? the greens or the reds?

[patent thistle]

the pride of the ottoman fleet has been finished

[azure palm]

its an AI modifier I think

[old acorn]

Its nothing

[azure palm]

the reds

[old acorn]

Its just literally a text

[patent thistle]

(yes a f***ing pre-dreadnought thats how bad the situation is rightnow-)

MEINS

I DONT CARE ABOUT THE DEPT

[azure crescent]

son i had to build my navy from scratch, ive got 1936 detroyers and cruisers and 1922 subs and i managed to naval invade germany from tripoli, atleast you have something

and italy left the italian confederation

mein gott

[dusky burrow]

Yeah hard to not press that button

[patent thistle]

its 4 destroyers and 2 pre-dreadnoughts so MEINS

anyways time to rename the battleships to the turkish names

fun fact: one of these still operated under the turkish navy until like the 1950s

[steel zephyr]

Lithuania ironman doing well

secured NAP with both Germans and Russian

[patent thistle]

gonna try this eco tree half

[azure crescent]

alright chat im goated

[zenith charm]

lol i just realised yamamoto is still alive despite getting an event about him dying 3 years ago his spirit is still fighting among us

[vital cove]

starting as Iraq?

[azure crescent]

yes

[steel zephyr]

uh oh russian attack

[azure palm]

that green... its weird but fits... also why does fr*nce still exist? Why didnt you destroy it?

[azure crescent]

i didnt have enough war score