hoi4-general

[urban flower]

did old germany tree have option to puppet hungary?

[azure walrus]

you mean through losing a war, germany going strasserist and doing mitteleuropa, or how else

[azure walrus]

yeah

but not the new tree

[urban flower]

ah

[azure walrus]

actually

there might be an option to Occupy Hungary

liek was done historically

but idk how that works

[urban flower]

isnt there one of the austria hungary states that puppets hungary?

[azure walrus]

um

[frank comet]

Is this good?

[azure walrus]

not that i know of

fascist austria can only annex

[fair horizon]

ily marxist zombies

[azure walrus]

czechoslovakia gets annex wargoal

[urban flower]

no puppet on hungary?

with the habsburg tree

[azure walrus]

the habsburg tree requires austria to be nonaligned(habsburg)

[urban flower]

nah

the left one doesnt

it's not habsburg maybe

but is it decision for austria?

uh doesnt matter hmmm

idk lol

seems pretty impossible to me

[urban flower]

oh oh i know how

Form Sweden Hungary

and more

release yourself as any nation that can become fascist conquer sweden hungary and release yourself as sweden hungary

[azure walrus]

ah

[dusky burrow]

guys forgot about the warlords RIP

[urban flower]

it's easier if you did a world conquest and like build shitty artillery divisions and release yourself as idk Yugo or someone strong

[azure walrus]

but doesnt your ideology switch to what it was before you stopped existing

[urban flower]

You can release Hungary Sweden as puppet, force them fascist via decisions annex and then release

if you can form sweden hungary and get one state next to sweden and hungary you can do it ez

but it takes long time

[azure walrus]

horrible

well

[fair horizon]

chat denmark is bullying me

[slim idol]

I think you can puppet Austria as hungary in the Habsburg tree

[azure walrus]

this is the only way

[urban flower]

i mean it's doable if you like speedrun germany

1936 world conquests aren't that hard tbf

just inf spam and like a lil cas

[dusky burrow]

Well there's only one port in Iceland

[fair horizon]

yeah i know

[azure walrus]

theyre right to do so

[fair horizon]

but i cant blow up their excuse for a navy

[slim idol]

Then make your own

[dusky burrow]

Naval bombers?

[fair horizon]

bro im playing iceland

[slim idol]

Lowk js do it

[urban flower]

what shizo nation should i play

or should i legit do fascist sweden hungary

[azure walrus]

oh oh i know

as legionary romania

conquer all roman lands

actually no

[urban flower]

ok

[azure walrus]

youre strong

ts prolly piece of cake

[urban flower]

yeah Romania is hella ez

you got like 15 gazillion smoil too

and big aluminum depot (Hungary)

[heavy vigil]

uniting polynesia as any country who isnt new zealand is kinda hard (you cant do taiwan since they dont get the formable)

(they all start with no techs and some without a mil high command)

any country starting with no mil high command sucks tbh

[urban flower]

hmmmm

[fair horizon]

TAHITI

[urban flower]

so def Fascist Japan first

I think

[heavy vigil]

all of them suck but palau/hawaii are the most playable

rapa nui is like hard but they get mil high command

[urban flower]

should i do it legit or just japan

lol

[heavy vigil]

melanesia, solomon (?), samao, suam, micronesia dont

[azure walrus]

doesnt rapa nui get insane buffs from the baby

[heavy vigil]

well the formable includes coring okinawa and taiwan

[urban flower]

wait lets see which one actually has resources

[heavy vigil]

but theyre not required to form it

[heavy vigil]

none

[urban flower]

nah

palau has aluminum for sure

[heavy vigil]

ok yeah palau has aluminium

if that even counts

[urban flower]

okey that's litterly it lol

just Palau

[heavy vigil]

its like one of the worst formables in the game

added in TfV tho

[urban flower]

i guess just build up those states untill you can turn fascist as japan

then release them and become micronesia

then paradrop them as micronesia?

[split bane]

Positives about this formable:
You can get all the land for it as New Zealand for free
And that's it

[heavy vigil]

micronesia sucks

i already told you why tbf

but you could

[urban flower]

which one has the funniest name early on?

[heavy vigil]

like also

releasing as puppet?

cooked

[fair horizon]

why does the usa block venezuela any chance they get?

[heavy vigil]

you wont flip fascist if released free

[heavy vigil]

nuh uh

[vital cove]

which monarchist path? democratic king?

[heavy vigil]

new caledonia has chromium

[vital cove]

they have like 3 monarchist paths if you count the pope

[heavy vigil]

if we count useless resources

[urban flower]

Empire of the seas

i found my nation

[vital cove]

https://youtu.be/KQJRhYriifM?si=zd2o_cmm8KQhpfWU

this is for the democratic king which is quite good because you can actually still justify while democratic

so its only an upside

[urban flower]

empire of the seas -> Help japan -> take some chinerland for population

then just your average late game gameplay

doable

[heavy vigil]

i think youre overestimating melanesia

also has to be released via commands

or mod

since its a uk releasable

[fair horizon]

couldnt you technically do the commie uk path and release it once it becomes a puppet?

[heavy vigil]

yeah but then its like 12 years later

[urban flower]

oh

uh then Hawaii

[heavy vigil]

i have a mod for you if you dont care for ironman

[urban flower]

and just (c/)hope japan naval invades

you get 5 build slots and 4x the Tuvan pop

[heavy vigil]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1702209487

use this

[urban flower]

does USA patrol west coast early?

[heavy vigil]

so you can do your dreams as melanesia

[azure walrus]

orr

nvm

[heavy vigil]

btw wanna know something sad

about 60-70% of the formable core pop is taiwan

[opaque zinc]

I played Estonia recently

[frank comet]

Is it better to puppet or annex

[heavy vigil]

its like 5 mil out of idk 7 mil or so

[opaque zinc]

And I’m the Baltic Union and like it’s fun and all

[vital cove]

is Mariana Federation still releasable

[heavy vigil]

depends on ideology and available manpower/industry

[opaque zinc]

But I had no time to train up troops before getting into a massive war

[heavy vigil]

yes

[opaque zinc]

And I have some war score but bro my allies are gonna get so strong

[heavy vigil]

they got nerfed tho

they have 42 less core pop since NCNS

[opaque zinc]

And I’m gonna stay weak

[urban flower]

lol

[opaque zinc]

I wanna play uhhhhhhhh Netherlands again

I had fun as the Netherlands

Netherlands is fun

[urban flower]

kinda lik sibir where most of your core pop is that slight chunk of manchuria

[vital cove]

ggs its joever

[heavy vigil]

imagine that but like 50x worse

[frank comet]

Their ideology doesn't really match mine and its Yugoslavia

[heavy vigil]

thats

not why

[vital cove]

that is the the question

[heavy vigil]

its about your ideology

communist always annexes because liberated workers

fascists theres more reason to puppet because you get like 65% of mils

[vital cove]

funny how the ai is the other way around

and they WILL switch your faction rules to match that

[heavy vigil]

the USSR gets decent puppets

COMECON

[urban flower]

okey i got the strat,

you're Japan and release the territories also Taiwan

you become Palau, get dockyards with destroyers and build marines while becoming communist for pop

take Taiwan and join cominterm

[heavy vigil]

when in comintern you cant dec wars

thats majors only

you could take DEI for manpower stuff tho

oh yeah you have to get rapa nui at some point smiles

[urban flower]

then just decl on china and join east co prosperity sphere

[heavy vigil]

not to form it but to complete it yk

[urban flower]

but no

hmmmm

i need big fleet before taking the others

or paradrop....

[heavy vigil]

its def hard

if you do it without mil high command its harder by like 20x

[urban flower]

yeah nah the first plan best plan as Palau, take Taiwan early and by the time you have complience you get like 1mil recruitable pop

on 20% conscription law

[heavy vigil]

RIP melanesia

country no one has ever played

its probably bottom 1% played nations

out of like 200-300? ish

[urban flower]

isn't it best way to speedrun the majahaharzvavawatawit empire?

[heavy vigil]

no it doesnt get that

thats indonesia (DEI) and malaydia

malaysia

also singapore since NCNS

not sure about other new releasables

[urban flower]

what is a melanesia

oh yeah

the fiji colony

ok I'm off to do challenge bye

1

my 1.3k hours special

💀

[fair horizon]

ok thats dumb

so ive been at war with denmark for like forever

and they just joined the allies so now im at war with 3 majors

wars should end if a year goes by of zero casualties on each side

[opaque zinc]

Thats like if San Marino attacked Türkiye bro

[fair horizon]

america is already trying to invade

[craggy dove]

what can I do that will prevent lithuania from flipping communist? im holding together with them, but soviet influence got to them

[fair horizon]

spy agency

[opaque zinc]

I wish I had viva la resistance

[craggy dove]

cant target allies

[fair horizon]

oh i didnt realize it was an ally

you're donezo

[craggy dove]

welp

at what point does country flip

or trigger civil war

[opaque zinc]

It depends

[fair horizon]

theres a lot of different things that factor into it

but tbh they'll probably lose from equipment before anything else

why is australia trying to invade me

[azure walrus]

Imma try the fascist sweden-hungary strat

[heavy vigil]

youre a threat

[fair horizon]

my 60k dudes on an island with no navy is a massive threat big true

imagine if i just kept sitting there

menacingly

[brittle cypress]

What flag are those six divisions

[fair horizon]

china

commie china

[heavy vigil]

wdym you have a navy in the screenshot

[brittle cypress]

that’s their flag??

Damn

[fair horizon]

a destroyer squadron doesnt count as a navy smh

[heavy vigil]

iceland won 3 wars against the uk with worse

naval wars btw

[fair horizon]

the herring war doesnt count

[heavy vigil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Herrings

this one?

[fair horizon]

oh my bad it was the cod wars

[heavy vigil]

someone died in those

it was serious business

[fair horizon]

how did britian go from the world's greatest empire to losing to iceland 🥀

[heavy vigil]

oh that was their biggest fighting force

it really doesnt get better with the other ones

i can tell because its the only one where they had a plane

[heavy vigil]

first one looks wild on the wiki

[azure walrus]

actually nvm

is it possible to get Paul I (Collaborator King) as Fascist Devolutionist Yugoslavia

[fair horizon]

GIT AUSTRALIA OUT OF HERE

GO ON

[inland falcon]

its over for you btw

NZ unbeatable superpower

[fair horizon]

they'll never take this island

even if i have to kill every last kiwi that steps on my shores

[inland falcon]

that won't take very long, there was like less than a million of us in ww2 iirc

[craggy dove]

where can I find stats on my losses and enemy losses? I only know how to see naval

[inland falcon]

nvm, 1.6m

[inland falcon]

in the war screen

[grim raptor]

yo does anyone like to talk politics, play chill hoi, and is under 19
dm me

[craggy dove]

this one?

[inland falcon]

yeah

[inland falcon]

"and is under 19"? 😭

[grim raptor]

we all under 19

how old r u

[inland falcon]

not under 19

[warped flint]

theres some uncs in here

[grim raptor]

no im not

[craggy dove]

i meant like something like this but for army. I saw someone on youtube have that

[grim raptor]

im 15

[heavy vigil]

same

[grim raptor]

we got somone who 18

[warped flint]

holy uncs

[grim raptor]

we got another 15

[inland falcon]

this server prolly has an older average member age than the average discord server tbf

[fair horizon]

:(

[grim raptor]

how old r u then

[inland falcon]

21 in may

[grim raptor]

if ur like under 21 it might be aight cuz we got 1 of those

[warped flint]

my birthday is coming up soon

[grim raptor]

hes special permission

[warped flint]

ill be turning 7, im 6 rn

67

hahahahahahahahaha

im so funny

do you guys get the joke

[clear dagger]

no im from somalia

[inland falcon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1218587853819482142/1245410252086841394/caption-1-3.gif

[heavy vigil]

im 21

[fair horizon]

britian really wants iceland

[warped flint]

everyone here is an unc

dinosaur times

[inland falcon]

"i was born in 201-"

[brittle cypress]

What

[warped flint]

i was birthed 2022, but gen z childhood

[jaunty gulch]

muahahaha

[fair horizon]

finland sent 3 divs to help defend iceland too

[warped flint]

what achievement should i try to get

[fair horizon]

australia hungary

[warped flint]

Sounds fun

very fun,

[autumn plover]

What's the current meta for the USSR?

[fair horizon]

lamo

the stupid patrol bug affects the ai too

[calm delta]

How is everyone

Hoi4 time

[fair horizon]

this is fun

[calm delta]

Bro cannot move anywhere

Best country to make the eu?

[frank comet]

My run has been chaos so far

I have a super alliance and multiple friends against the ussr and USA

Every single country I invade joins. Either the north american coalition or the ussr

May God have mercy on my enemy

[thick kettle]

what did i do

[heavy vigil]

iceland noob

why would you have a unit on the corner where you can encircle them

and not even hold the airfield

[fair horizon]

yeah

[calm delta]

And what should you do Casey

[heavy vigil]

move the units to slightly different tiles

[fair horizon]

because america's troops actually make me worried

[calm delta]

Is Germany the best country to make the eu

[heavy vigil]

northwest you encircle

always hold airfield so no CAS

[fair horizon]

they havent invaded there

[heavy vigil]

east side is like whatever if they land but itd be nice to hold a stretch

they will eventually

its good to leave it open

[calm delta]

How you been Casey Also best country to make the eu with?

[heavy vigil]

i say from playing iceland vs germany for like 40+ years

[heavy vigil]

iceland

[calm delta]

lol

I’m gonna try it with Germany

[heavy vigil]

im an artist

[fair horizon]

yeah i think im just gonna hold the side i was on

[quasi shoal]

Huh

[calm delta]

When I priortez economic growth with Germany do I cancel mifo bills?

[heavy vigil]

those are hill/plains tiles

so you kill invaders easier

you want them to land there instead of the mountains/reykjavic

[quasi shoal]

Where

[heavy vigil]

purple

[quasi shoal]

I can't see what that's showing besides invasion traps

[fair horizon]

all the tiles are mountains

[quasi shoal]

Ohhhh

[heavy vigil]

maybe my memory is bad

i could swear its different

[autumn plover]

Is it just me or is the initial T-28 tank the Soviets get actually not too bad for AI?

[heavy vigil]

it should still be good trap tiles tho from what i remember

[quasi shoal]

I can see the hills

[heavy vigil]

but im old...

[calm delta]

It is decent

[autumn plover]

Lot of soft attack for a fairly low price, good amount of armor

[fair horizon]

my troops are pathetic

[calm delta]

I’m 20 this year I’m getting old lol

[heavy vigil]

the i-go isnt bad either

[thick kettle]

oo i can do better

than this

[heavy vigil]

im 21

[calm delta]

Still I’m getting older too

[heavy vigil]

thats how time works according to our observations

pretty cool how it moves forward

[calm delta]

Doesn’t seem long ago that I was twelve but it has been long

[quasi shoal]

Bruh

[quasi shoal]

Both of y'all old

[fair horizon]

i have 17 total factories what do you want me to do

[quasi shoal]

Less divisions but stronger, idk

[heavy vigil]

says the 14 year old

[heavy vigil]

im kidding btw youre probably older

[heavy vigil]

why dont you get more coal

[quasi shoal]

Gulp

[heavy vigil]

if youre communist you can make wales rise up

[fair horizon]

well i want to but theres a problem because of the whole american/british navy

[heavy vigil]

are you not

condolences

[heavy vigil]

and theyll get 1 whole division

[celest heart]

gotta love 10k ping playing with my friends

[azure walrus]

I have returned to this game out of lack of anything else

[warped flint]

ima try to get both of these

[fair horizon]

NAVAL INVADE ME AGAIN

[azure walrus]

is this tuff encirclement

[heavy vigil]

do you exploit your ships or do you refit them

[heavy vigil]

i got this k/d earlier (opening attacks vs end of war)

[azure walrus]

vietnamese pacifism shines again

[fair horizon]

i have not exploited or refit them yet

[heavy vigil]

cooked

btw

your bad cruisers

turn them into carriers

[warped flint]

its not a encirclement

thats their capital

[azure walrus]

ah

[warped flint]

so they got supply and everything

but the dudes outside the capital dont

[azure walrus]

how about this

[warped flint]

wait, so couldnt you just encircle a capital and have everyone starve elsewhere?

[azure walrus]

theyre losing supply now

[azure walrus]

surely there are other hubs in the country

[bold fulcrum]

average non his game

[fair horizon]

THEY'RE NOT BAD

[heavy vigil]

what do you struggle with anyway

[fair horizon]

they're just not good

[heavy vigil]

theyd be better as carriers

[azure walrus]

nothing

im winning

[heavy vigil]

CVEs

[fair horizon]

well they would but i dont have the capability to produce those

[azure walrus]

im about to kill brazil, alone in its faction and afraid

[heavy vigil]

i could give you like my setup save before the siam war if you wanna see how thats set up (tho i do have some useless modern tanks for fun)

[fair horizon]

the first one wouldnt be done for years anyways

[heavy vigil]

dec on others

get them in the faction

free annex

[azure walrus]

uits the only one in its faction

i have been

justifying on others

[heavy vigil]

yes but get others to join it

so when brasil dies you annex more

[azure walrus]

they have a better faction to join

the uruguayan one

[heavy vigil]

shared war

[azure walrus]

which is also clearly soon to die

[maiden gull]

Polska will have the schizophrenia

[green lodge]

Uh chat

What's the best Grand Doctrine for Afghanistan

I'm leaning towards Mass Assault cuz you get to core PAk

[azure walrus]

tried this with the uruguayan faction and sweden is now a major 🥀

[green lodge]

Haha 🥀

At least they caped

[azure walrus]

who

sweden?

[green lodge]

Yeah

Oh that's how they level up

You have to give them medals

[fair horizon]

domincan republic :)

island nations rise up

[azure walrus]

yo what is this

an hour ticks by in the game

once per every real life SECOND

😭

all i did is make a frontline with Norway

please hoi4 I need this

[fair horizon]

which one should i do first? or can i do them all at once?

[fair horizon]

so these are useless

chat i did a brexit

[warped flint]

never knew about this

thats kinda cool

[elder glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1217365467383988255/1466289149152596029/0129.gif

[warped flint]

@viscid stirrup

explain this right now

[green lodge]

Bruh 🥀

How

Just punch through the middle, encircle them

[warped flint]

i saw comments he was actually france

tuff

[violet grail]

coconut

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[winter fulcrum]

is this a good encirclement? (for context im helping fascist italy fight off the communist italians)

[winter fulcrum]

yo chill with da glazing

[green lodge]

Can somebody send me some guns

[warped flint]

what country should I form

[warped flint]

Your gonna get a free puppet

nice

[green lodge]

Turkestan

Dagestan

[warped flint]

No

[winter fulcrum]

i wonder if fascist italy AI is so bad bc the devs had to nerf mussolini bc hes so smart he could easily defeat the ussr in 1000+ years

[warped flint]

something in europe

[winter fulcrum]

ottoman empire

[warped flint]

thats in asia

[winter fulcrum]

its in europe too

[warped flint]

tiny ahh in europe

small

capitals in asia

never

[winter fulcrum]

yo are you serious?

the capital is NOT in asia

[warped flint]

ankara is in asia....?

[winter fulcrum]

oooohhhh

i thought you meant constantinople

[warped flint]

Well thats split in both

I am not 100% sure but i think the main side is in the european part tho

[winter fulcrum]

okay thats just wrong

[warped flint]

its in asia and europe

[winter fulcrum]

ohhh alr

[slim nexus]

Alpine federation

[winter fulcrum]

wait wtf?

i was looking in diplomacy in hoi4 to see what continent it said turkey was apart of just out of curiosity, but it doesnt show up in any continent?

oh nvm found it

[terse skiff]

you can just use tdebug in console commands to find out about it

[quasi shoal]

it's both at the same time iirc

[vale dagger]

hey guys im in a game rn and i keep crashing on 25 jan 1942 as germany against sov (mid-barb)

idk what im doing wrong but its really annoying

[quasi shoal]

do you have air

oh wait crashing

i'm dumb

[quasi shoal]

what are your specs

[livid thorn]

I have 80 hours in the game, I play Italy, it feels like a sisyphean task. I do generally swell (I believe) and have little mistakes —my most current play through I should’ve cleaned up more Spanish encirclements to have more Spanish troops to aide in more encirclements— I can manage my military and economy pretty well, but the little mistakes add up or I mess up France or not have enough troops to handle yugo! I could do better genuinely. Just getting it off my chest i suppose……….

[quasi shoal]

are you building air?

[livid thorn]

lotsa cas and a bit of fighters

[quasi shoal]

swap that

get enough fighters to beat the allies air force

and then build cas

[dusky burrow]

Yeah, never had to go into exile myself

[green lodge]

Azad Hind and half of Russia dead by 1941
time to build up for the European cleanse

[cedar lance]

should i make a tank template full of only modern/mbt tanks

[warped flint]

I have like once as poland while trying that one achievement

I was just attacking french troops and noticed that

Why wont italy join my war?

Sheeps mod

[distant geyser]

Sup

no hate but

[dusky burrow]

Hover over the x

it's probably honestly because it's too early tbh

If Soviets are still dealing with Finland

[warped flint]

💀

holy libya just spammed a lot of shitters

[dusky burrow]

wait this is sheep's i'm assuming

[warped flint]

Yeah

[distant geyser]

Iceland get a their own focus tree before saudi arabia

[dusky burrow]

Well, still the same thing, Italy should join in like mid-1940 I believe

[warped flint]

Yeah thats around the historical time i guess

tho its kinda dumb because france is died

[inland falcon]

i mean yeah? what did saudi arbia even do during ww2

[warped flint]

I love air

[dusky burrow]

conversion strats

why are you using messerschmidt

[warped flint]

Dude didnt hear of the nearly 1m saudi arabian expedition to normandy 💔

[inland falcon]

my mistake, now i remember

[warped flint]

Opss

mistake

[dusky burrow]

Bruh

[warped flint]

But this run is before I learned how op focke wulf was, I was still using the extra fuel tank design thingy

[dusky burrow]

I see

[warped flint]

big hungary

holy shit

[distant geyser]

They gave the allies oil but I see your point

[warped flint]

i dont think they really discovered their oil at this time

[woeful drum]

hoi4 cannot destroy my 8yr old pc

[distant geyser]

They struck oil in march 1938, year and a half before ww2

[woeful drum]

tho im gonna run rise of nations on it

[warped flint]

oh darn the allies cant actually sorta fight back

NOOO

MY RUBBER

FREE FRANCE TOOK VIETNAME

NOOOOOOO

[dusky burrow]

Well Japan will just get it back sooner or later

also this is why you build refineries as Germany

[warped flint]

Yeah i did

but I had more plane production then expected so i still had a defecit

have a feeling ill get my ahh destroyed in barb

[dusky burrow]

i guess you have extra planes then

[warped flint]

broooo

[vital owl]

what is this ratio 💔

[warped flint]

what

[vital owl]

csc ratio

[warped flint]

oh

[vital owl]

65/35

[warped flint]

its just because those have no efficeny at the beginning

[vital owl]

show me the designs

[warped flint]

I learned recently that this is sorta wrong

but I just came back to this save cause i was bored

[vital owl]

i wanna do double armour plate

if its focke wulf

[warped flint]

Yeah thats what I should have done

I didnt realize that the range isnt that bad if you just get the 15% and then the 10% doctrine ones

[vital owl]

so if its jsut self seeling for csc u never need more than 10 on final

[warped flint]

and then the mio

[vital owl]

iirc its 5/95

[warped flint]

I am not sure if its worth taking the effiency tho

[cedar lance]

btw should i build a LOT of fleet escort and all other vanilla base game carriers?

[warped flint]

bro no way italian ai is still incompetent in sheeps mod

should norway still be easy to kill or nah

[cedar lance]

ay someone answer

[opaque zinc]

what should i do/ what should i have done?

second ones are for my ports

[opaque zinc]

ok im def gonna lose this war

i just dont understand how people do the winter war as finland

[warped flint]

lets gooo

[crude schooner]

Idk I was told to build light cruisers and a lot of screens

[cedar lance]

alr grungy

[opaque zinc]

im slightly pushing back since i lowered my defense on the ports

[vale dagger]

like ryzen 3600

annoying cause i need encirclement dopamine

[warped flint]

holy shit

Why am I trading so bad?

[mild plaza]

Are your airports overstacked? And what design are you using?

[warped flint]

None over stacked, I made a mistake with mio but thats all i believe

[mild plaza]

MIO shouldn't have that big of an impact. Can you send a screenshot of the air map overlay with your planes selected?

[rustic owl]

español?

[mild plaza]

Thats fine too. Do you have enough fuel?

[warped flint]

Yeah

Also it is sheeps mod so the ai is making good designs but still i think that ratios kinda confusing

[onyx sundial]

most broken division?

[neat kayak]

F you mean i can't paradroop

why doesn't this work?

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

as Estonia ill order between 10 11 to 13 CVs and many other ships

[late star]

Yall am I cooked?

[icy crescent]

Do you have 50 transport planes?

[neat kayak]

yes

it worked

i had to shuffle some troops from a fallback order in vladivostok

[icy crescent]

You're welcome.

[neat kayak]

this game is shit sometimes

[storm mica]

I have installed some DLC's but there was no changes in gameplay or focus tree etc

[zenith charm]

without stealing manchukuos troops menjiang wouldve died and i wouldnt even have noticed lol

[icy crescent]

Could you show us the DLC tab?

[storm mica]

In the game launcher?

[icy crescent]

In the Launcher and on Steam?

[cedar lance]

i have all dlcs and expansions

[icy crescent]

That's... great.

[cedar lance]

like 37 of em

alr thx moddie

[storm mica]

Here

[icy crescent]

I guess you could deactivate them and activate them again.
And restarting the PC.

Or checking game files as option on Steam.

[storm mica]

Okay thx

This is my by blood alone folder

[cedar lance]

i like buying any and ALL Future hoi4 dlcs and expansions

[compact escarp]

[cedar lance]

i wonder what this year hoi4 dlc expansion will be about

[abstract star]

hote

[coral gorge]

this is taking time

[ember vine]

United States of Greater Austria lol

[cedar lance]

ill build between 10 11 13 42 50 78 to 87 CVs and other ships as Estonia

and another 7 to 70 Reserve CVs and ships

and another 80 90 95 to 100 cvs and etc ships

[crude schooner]

hote

[sharp yarrow]

is papal italy or communist italy better?

i wanna choose a path for a mp game

[viscid swift]

it literally says it needs a transport wing

u need transport planes

[viscid swift]

personally i just bought by blood alone and im going for the pope cuz its fire

[viscid swift]

real

[glad lake]

yo guys in ww2 if turkey joined too would axis control these waters?

[inland falcon]

I didn't know listenburg was aligned with the axis powers in ww2

[atomic grove]

the german reich was actually a secret puppet state of listenbourg

[inland falcon]

This is why Europeans hide listenburg from Americans

[covert bear]

cheap early game fighter template?

[cedar lance]

in total ill Order 368 ships

as Estonia

[glad lake]

what the hell are you guys on listenburg?

listenburg aing even a real country

[viscid swift]

My dumbass cat decided to lay on me while doing papal italy 🙃

well beside me

but still 😭

[cedar lance]

hello

[viscid swift]

hello

[cedar lance]

wassup Karto

[glad lake]

HEY UR CAT AİNT A DUMBASS

[viscid swift]

playing hoi4 as italy

[glad lake]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217

[viscid swift]

not in this instance

but typically is

[cedar lance]

nice i like playing as Estonia

[craggy dove]

is germany stops pushing the soviets does it mean its over?

[viscid swift]

u do not know what that fatass did at times

[viscid swift]

what ideology?

[glad lake]

what did he do dawg

[cedar lance]

fascist

[viscid swift]

for example once she brought a goddamn dead frog to the house

[glad lake]

gawd dayum

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-monkey-wake-up-wake-up-monkey-gif-12354123722088999652

wake up i brought a dead frog

[viscid swift]

and turned off my pc a few times

[glad lake]

lol

LOL

[cedar lance]

XD

[glad lake]

NİCE ONE CAT

whats the cats name

[viscid swift]

kreska

aka in english

line

just line

[glad lake]

bro

[viscid swift]

cuz she has a line on her head

[glad lake]

İTS FAR BİGGER THAN A LİNE

[cedar lance]

really?

wat

[viscid swift]

she looks like a Baleron

[glad lake]

ur cat and a lines difference

the line is a bit small?

[cedar lance]

looks like a chonky cat

[glad lake]

chunky line

[cedar lance]

XD

[craggy dove]

is germany stops pushing the soviets mid 1942 does it mean its over?

[viscid swift]

Hand for scale

Sorry but you're not telling me there is a single thought in this brain

[glad lake]

there is

and its prob food upside down

lol

THE BATTLE OF STALİNGRAD

[viscid swift]

thats actually a big possibility

either that or literally nothing

[glad lake]

eh prob

[viscid swift]

she is just laying there not doing anything at all

she's falling asleep 😭

[glad lake]

i think yall have a connection

[viscid swift]

i think this dumbass likes me

btw fun fact she was born one day before my birthday

[glad lake]

i think those non thinking looks comes from you

[viscid swift]

yeah i think we both dont think typically

[glad lake]

just confirmed it

hes prob silly larry with with double autism

lol

no hate btw

[glad lake]

WAİT

İ SEE THAT LOOK

İTS THE LOOK THAT A BLOODY SCARY THİNG CAN DO

[viscid swift]

yuh we both prob autistic 🔥

[glad lake]

HE İS LİKE PYRO FROM TF2

SEES THE WORLD DİFFERENT

İ SENSE THAT HE WİLL RULE THE WORLD

JUST FOR FOOD

[viscid swift]

nah its just gravity

making her look like a dumbass

yeah she fell asleep...

[glad lake]

lol

[cedar lance]

are supersonic and normal jets good to use?

[vital cove]

ugh
puppeting is such a self griefing

the ai is so bad

could've won in 1939 if I didn't make the mistake of puppeting poland

[neat kayak]

Late answer It fired and I capped them

[silk tide]

no they prob just ran out of supply

DAMN

thats exceptionally strategic

[signal oracle]

182???????

[undone dove]

HOLY SOVIET AI ENCIRCLEMENT

[analog ivy]

Infantry only encirclement with no air (i didn't make air nor tanks)

its 1941

i encircled their medium tanks too

[cedar lance]

ill use the manpower command to get 128 mil manpower as Estonia

[snow rain]

family feud or something

[cursive oxide]

FR

[quasi osprey]

[cursive oxide]

what nation ar you ?

[quasi osprey]

lithuania

so little divisions here

[eternal palm]

Seen more

In an encirclement

[quasi osprey]

yeah d-day always has lots of divs

almost always

[maiden patio]

#hearts-of-iron-news message

Reminder america is still terrible

[eternal palm]

DEI focus tree 😭

[tall nacelle]

anything but an american focus tree

[quasi osprey]

Bruh rn I am like austria-hungary

[quasi osprey]

and not only because of the size

[eternal palm]

Can I ask you, what kind of shrooms are you on and where do I get them?

How does this look like AH 💀

Randomly asking someone to commit to multiple hours of a game is definitely a thing to ask

[quasi osprey]

Firstly I have high resistance everywhere, I am huge but I have a very weak military and my industry is barely working

[eternal palm]

That's why u don't play Greater Lithuania

Plc is the only great path

What does a country "feel like"?

[quasi osprey]

it will take lots of time for the situation to stabilize

[eternal palm]

Don't u core like all of Ukraine?

[quasi osprey]

look at my energy output

[eternal palm]

U do get some core yes

[eternal palm]

Ouch

I think the habsburgs are doing just fine

[quasi osprey]

I dont own ukraine and I will have to own all polish tiles to core them with a decision

[eternal palm]

Still very rich and doing f1 racing apparently

[eternal palm]

Ouch

So go kill Germany?

[quasi osprey]

40 divs against 250 I dont think so

[eternal palm]

250 divs is very little

They won't have all of them on you

[quasi osprey]

also I a am a BIT short on guns so I cant really increase my army for months more

[eternal palm]

Oh you mean like 500 years ago 💀

Yea Charles V was pretty good

[eternal palm]

Just trade lmao?

200 years ago, the habsburgs were pretty weak

Compared to what they were

Even if we just count Austria

[zenith charm]

the chinese divisions are turning me crazy istg

[eternal palm]

Uh no. Charles V was Holy Roman Emperor, King of Spain, Archduke of Austria in 1519

That's when they had the most power arguably

[quasi osprey]

even if I buy out all the countries that want to trade with me I will still have to make about 50000 guns

[manic iris]

GUYS is it possible for me to create the EU

[eternal palm]

Don't release China as a collab 😭

[upper veldt]

Yeah

[eternal palm]

Yea so?

I'm not talking about a fking game 😭

[manic iris]

is it a factiono or like a single nation

[quasi osprey]

for my industry making 20 guns a day its not very easy

[eternal palm]

Hmmm

Almost like not trading is a bad idea

U need coal

U need steal

[upper veldt]

I think you can form the EU as Germany or Belgium but you must have gotterdamerung

[zenith charm]

its not a collab its the china from the focus tree i just changed its color

[quasi osprey]

well I will try

[eternal palm]

Thats even worse

Shouldve annexed China

With full collabs

[upper veldt]

And I'm not sure but you can 100% do one of theese 2 as Germany or Belgium

[zenith charm]

i capped china too fast to make any collabs

[eternal palm]

Its a formable via decision

[eternal palm]

Well don't cap it too fast

[zenith charm]

nah i like to dunk on it

[eternal palm]

Oh no u don't.

[zenith charm]

march '38 china dead

[eternal palm]

Please don't take your history knowledge from games

Read real history

[zenith charm]

less than 50k casualties too

[eternal palm]

I'm chill

😭

Bro is allergic to research

[upper veldt]

Guys is this good money for EU?

[quasi osprey]

ok trading kinda helped but I now have two times less civs than before

[zenith charm]

playing millenium dawn

[manic iris]

I need dlc?

[zenith charm]

up to 2026 too

[eternal palm]

If you don't know don't talk 🤔

If u don't care, Dont talk

[zenith charm]

you need hella motivation to go that deep

[weak quarry]

tuff?

[manic iris]

Is it possible whiyhout dlc

[eternal palm]

U don't learn anything by yapping

[upper veldt]

My first world conquest in base game hoi4 was 1970

[upper veldt]

No

[eternal palm]

U learn by reading actual history

Not what you think is history

Games aren't

I won't

Sure man

"I cba :clueless:"

History isn't entertainment

Not for me anyhow

[upper veldt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/992480992730304542/1105563096409460816/DAA16B3E-F20E-4559-BB4A-7A6639CA00DA.gif

[eternal palm]

Lmao

Call it what you want

[manic iris]

Are u kididng me

[eternal palm]

Bro is getting mad

[manic iris]

Why is everything dlc locked

[eternal palm]

Yes.

Pdx needs money

[manic iris]

Can i even create roman empire whithout dlc

[upper veldt]

Nope

[eternal palm]

I think you can

Almost like it's a company run for profit 🤯

This is ragebait lol

[manic iris]

Can i or not i rly wanna make my fav empire

[eternal palm]

Do u know what a company is lmao

[eternal palm]

It's in the Mussolini tree

[upper veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-cat-girl-talk-fast-online-chat-gif-16273991575876544877

[manic iris]

Is it the mael nostrum one

[zenith charm]

yes

mare nostrum

[eternal palm]

I am chill. I think your takes are just bland as shit

[eternal palm]

Ye

[eternal palm]

Like, did you learn how to read yesterday lmao

[manic iris]

I did that once in a save but it didnt change my name to romab empire just italy

[eternal palm]

Mare Nostrum unlocks the decision to form the roman empire. You then have to click the decision

The act of you talking is insulting. I've rarely seen anyone have less intelligent things to say

Good.

[manic iris]

Ohh thank you lol , is it dlc locked i remember i played eith a friend with dlcs so idk

[eternal palm]

Ye go watch more cat videos. Those suit you better

[eternal palm]

No it's not.

If you have the focus, you can go the decision

U still can

Mare Nostrum is in the historical branch

[zenith charm]

you gotta kill it

[eternal palm]

Kill it

Hoi doesn't have a conditional surrender mechanic

It's total war or bust

Yea

[zenith charm]

or atleast not developped yet

[eternal palm]

Or it doesn't work correctly

The white peace button exists

That's the only one though

Naja? Diggi sprich englisch

That event is still a thing

Still doesn't work

Small indie studio

Trust

They don't have the capacity for optimisation

So much so they forgot the bypass checks on all the goe focuses

Listen, they're having a hard time

Charging 30€ for a dlc isn't enough yk

Small indie studio

Trust

Small indie studio

Multi million indie studio

No no you're good. Your lack of sarcasm is impeccable

[zenith charm]

all of the country

well not if you take over the capital

rather

if you capitulate them entirely

[eternal palm]

Everything

Kill and take all

[zenith charm]

noting that if you're in a peace conference with multiple other countries your claims will cost less

yes but it aint ironman compatible so if going for achievements dont use it

[eternal palm]

Cheating smh

[zenith charm]

sorry if i care about my sanity

[eternal palm]

Cheating smh

I don't use mods, I don't play with console. I play ON IRONMAN and if my run gets fked I WILL KILL MYSELF

Kinda is kinda isn't

No for real though, plpc is cheating

If you cba to beat the AI by yourself that's on you

It can be fun, it's still cheating by definition

[zenith charm]

cuz hoi4 isnt really meant to be played after ww2 is over by definition

what happens after is a result of your doing

[candid forge]

Ironman mode rah

"French Occupation Zone" That's all

[inland falcon]

tf going on in prussia

[green lodge]

Why switzerland still there 🥀

Beat his ah

[crude schooner]

now fight the commies

[inland falcon]

sorry, Kaliningrad

[cedar lance]

hello
should i make a lot of divs and templates

[candid forge]

I'm going to do that

[candid forge]

Well, Soviet didn't get in war so yeah

idk who to give it so I just liberate it

[crude schooner]

Avenge 1815!

[green lodge]

Chat

[inland falcon]

what nation controls it?

[crude schooner]

POUR L’EMPEREUR!!

[candid forge]

Prussia

[green lodge]

Is there anybody here who understands Afghanistan 🥀

[inland falcon]

horrid.

[candid forge]

It's Republic of France tho

[inland falcon]

afghanistan is a country, full of many afghanis

[candid forge]

!!!

This state make Poland look awful

[crude schooner]

FEDERALISE EUROPE! RAHHH 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅

[candid forge]

French Airforce solo the entire axis btw

[green lodge]

Nah but in the Quami path
Isn't the militia useless right ?

[inland falcon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[green lodge]

Quami Path is ass imeo 🥀

[inland falcon]

who tf plays afghanistan

switzerland ass country

[green lodge]

Uh i like to suffer

[crude schooner]

Fehlinger doctrine French variation

[green lodge]

You can take over iran by 36

So that's a thing

Lots of oil

Rahhh

[inland falcon]

#ExGermany

[candid forge]

French Airforce rahh

[candid forge]

https://youtu.be/S6mkFY-Wh7k?si=F8DW01ArzrGBYo8X

I don't have any tanks so maybe I'm going to make it

I used infantry to fight Germany 🥀

[inland falcon]

decolonize germany

[crude schooner]

#ExEverybodyThatIsn’tFrench

[candid forge]

Keep it as single so we can integrate it !!

[crude schooner]

the fire has been extinguished, we are victorious

[crude schooner]

French Silesia goes hard ngl

[candid forge]

Should I just #ExRussia or I just go help in Asia from Japanese first

[green lodge]

What do you guys use for offensive if your defense is 9w arty, engi, aa

[inland falcon]

this would be such a shitty country icl

[candid forge]

Well I formed European once

With Germany

Ironman mode bla

Democracy Germany btw 🥀

ts

[inland falcon]

idrk about federalizing the EU irl, i'm not european, i dont get a say. but in TFR a federalized europe is really awful

[candid forge]

I'm making TFR reference

[heavy vigil]

TFR is just like real life

[crude schooner]

are you ready for ze new world order?!?

no more human rights or borders

[candid forge]

Ve own you your son und daughter

[crude schooner]

Davos, Ve are here, ze agenda is quite clear, you are ze puppet and I’m ze puppeteer!

[candid forge]

https://tenor.com/view/new-world-order-klaus-schwab-world-economic-forum-parody-r-u-ready-4-ze-new-world-order-gif-10007432617932751756

[crude schooner]

holy shit TNO UI mod? That exists?!?

subscribing to ts as fast as possible

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358039991535665282/1358298021963628544/caption-16.GIF

[inland falcon]

so true. give it a few years

[crude schooner]

nothing ever happens.

[crude schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fire-rises-tfr-hoi4-hearts-of-iron-iv-hoi4tfr-gif-16978788358932586997

[inland falcon]

we are always 1 minute from midnight, but we will never reach it

actually, i think we're 55 seconds from midnight now apparently

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1362411507027021899/1463600444470460508/image0.gif

[heavy vigil]

it was cool when it was introduced tbf

but they didnt invent a way to rewind time

on the clock

so its a bit stupid

[inland falcon]

i think uuuh

[heavy vigil]

it should be like a hoi4 world tension scale fr

[inland falcon]

nuclear war will never happen

nobody is stupid enough to start a war between nuclear powers (and let it burn out of control)

[heavy vigil]

its just a lot of cruelty, i dont believe anyone is capable of it on a moral level

but its possible

[crude schooner]

could somebody dm me the mod lin or post it here plz? tno ui looks so cool

link

[candid forge]

it just tno gui and tfr map mode

[crude schooner]

ok thx

[candid forge]

I played it on Ironman mode

[inland falcon]

yeah its certainly possible, but i would never bet on it actually happening

it'd take some ungodly levels of stupidity

[crude schooner]

ts mod is 1 giga byte