hoi4-general

[urban flower]

elevation map (without scale because we ballin)

[steel zephyr]

W logistics even still

i hope these war goals get to somewhere

once someone attacks the russians i'll go on the offencive to recapture latgale

son im crien

[azure dagger]

Literally 1984

[quasi osprey]

yay lithuanian moscow

[terse skiff]

what happened to ws

[azure dagger]

uhh whats ws

[terse skiff]

war support

[azure dagger]

ohhh

wait ill fix it with propaganda

[quasi osprey]

lithuanian industry

[azure dagger]

should i go to war with allies?

my navy is prepared same w naval invasions

[terse skiff]

are you on strike now?

[quasi osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lithuania-lithuanian-fact-check-this-post-this-post-has-been-gif-7620392083187925546

[terse skiff]

what's you economy law

[azure dagger]

partial mob

[terse skiff]

I'm asking sov guy

[quasi osprey]

wdym strike?

[terse skiff]

you might want to get back to higher war support

[azure dagger]

yeah i should do that

[terse skiff]

if you attack your ws will be 12

were you forced to demobilize from war economy?

[azure dagger]

development of tankograd is such a great focus

[azure dagger]

no

i`ve never used it in this run for some reason

[terse skiff]

so you were always partial mob?

[quasi osprey]

bruh having early mob in 1942 idk how I managed to forget about economy laws😂

[terse skiff]

economy law should be the first thing you fix when you can

[quasi osprey]

well I kinda forgot about it

[azure dagger]

yep

[terse skiff]

you can get to war economy in 1936

justify on pol and cancel when you get 50 ws or just send attache to spain

[azure dagger]

kk

maybe i should do that next run ig

but should i go to war with allies

i use space marines btw

and a great airforce

[terse skiff]

if you want you can

[steel zephyr]

hmm

[quasi osprey]

lmao soviets are weak

[quasi osprey]

its 1942

[steel zephyr]

this may just be where the finns fall

[fierce peak]

son

[steel zephyr]

russians lost another 100k to my 0k 🥹

[glad lake]

yo guys why can every country be impressed about their future but the germans cant

İT AİNT FAİR

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-banging-shield-rahhh-thiccatina-gif-2077174781171827192

[severe lion]

because

germany

is already too op

[glad lake]

i will be proud of the german history

İCH WİLL BE PROUD

[split bane]

AI Slop

[grand forge]

i am the fact checker

[severe lion]

still peak

[split bane]

No, anything made by Gen AI is automatically made garbage

[severe lion]

Brody 💔

it ain't that deep

[spare saffron]

what mod is this

[severe lion]

what is even the point of polar bears besides mass murder

[spare saffron]

they live

[severe lion]

oops

wrong pic

[spare saffron]

you could say they also eat seals which prevents from overpopulation

[severe lion]

used this for an edit

[severe lion]

seals already have opps

orcas

[spare saffron]

Yes but they will still overpopulate nevertheless

alot of seals will stay alive

less deaths

[severe lion]

but penguins from madagascar

[spare saffron]

This is probably bad for fishing and fishermen

[severe lion]

and antartica

[spare saffron]

the more seals the less fish for them

[spare saffron]

what about them

[severe lion]

polar bears kill them

atp kill both seals and polar bears

leave sealions and penguins alone

[spare saffron]

keeping polar bears will just keep the food chain balanced

its better for us

[severe lion]

delete me instead ig

[spare saffron]

none goes in the middle of antartica so it doesnt matter that the polar bear would eat humans aswell

[steel zephyr]

i lost an extra 3k, russians lost an extra 200k (not accounting for the thousands lost by russian allies)

[stiff fjord]

damnnnnnn

[spare saffron]

Do you not have any allies or smth

[severe lion]

russia after that

[spare saffron]

u cant break through

[stiff fjord]

how u still holding on

[severe lion]

usa sending 10 billion taxpayer dollars for 20 more ammunition per heavy rocket launcher

[grand forge]

🇹🇷

[crude schooner]

we aren’t allowed to swear on the server? What

[severe lion]

damn

[steel zephyr]

another 2k of my causalties to 200k of his

[steel zephyr]

not at all

[severe lion]

russia after that

[crude schooner]

what’s the point of restricting discord to 13+

[severe lion]

uhh

[steel zephyr]

🤑

[grand forge]

why are images being deleted

[half cloak]

Is there an easy way to win the Finnish war as Finland? like what is the best doctrine for it?

[severe lion]

so uhh

[crude schooner]

Makes discord 13+, makes a server for 9 year olds to be safe

[urban flower]

bruh wtf do i do (I'm Tannu Tuva)

[woven gate]

least turkish turkish person

[urban flower]

Germany will prob fall and italy also

[grand forge]

xD

[crude schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358039991535665282/1358298021963628544/caption-16.GIF

[severe lion]

oops

wrong picture

[severe lion]

lowk electro wizard tho

[severe lion]

ok

[woven gate]

sending this in a letter to the white house

[crude schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-joe-biden-microphone-interview-walk-gif-2478024445377708296

[steel zephyr]

total kdr

my only war is this one

[severe lion]

da li sam sladak =serbian = am I cute

[deep pike]

anyone atm having issues with the game crashing?

[severe lion]

I think eppy

[steel zephyr]

another 3k of my losses to 300k of them what is this russiablud doing

100:1 kdr

don't forget the 85k crimean losses to me

[uneven drum]

RT56 is fun ngl

[steel zephyr]

85,000:0 kdr there

[deep pike]

wdym?

[uneven drum]

RT56 is definitely my go to mod

Why do we have edits for mr Jeffy

[urban flower]

how about ussr?

don't they want latvia too?

[steel zephyr]

tuff

[steel zephyr]

USSR is long gone

[urban flower]

I'm also in a struggle for the survival of my people any advice?

how did you beat the USSR?

was it with allied help or?

[heavy vigil]

3120 of that defense does nothing btw

[steel zephyr]

no, I am purely alone

not even lend lease

[quasi osprey]

is this an ok run as lithuania?

[heavy vigil]

take mongolia first

its weak and has some eco to work from

[urban flower]

i don't need eco just manpower

[heavy vigil]

then the soviets wont have the capital supply

[heavy vigil]

900 weekly:

[steel zephyr]

I retreated past a large river, defended in forests, fortified my entire border and my support tech is maxed on the supports i used (arty and AA too), and my infantry tech is maxxed

[urban flower]

like if i take mongolia how do i man the front

[uncut pollen]

Nope

Get germany

• france and italy

[quasi osprey]

that would be a very stupid suicide mission

[heavy vigil]

more small units to cover the west

no supply there anyway

[tawdry nebula]

Oh, yes I just made a big encirclement!

[steel zephyr]

2.32M killed

[craggy dove]

would this template be good for country with good industry and no manpower (latvia)?

replace the tank with cheap SPAA

holding out against soviets

[rustic ridge]

kinda

[urban flower]

there's also no supply for me in mongolia

[steel zephyr]

tuff

russians are generious with their equipment donations

[icy laurel]

The good ending

[quasi osprey]

not the ending yet

[icy laurel]

The start of a good ending then perhaps?

[slate dew]

Singleplayer or MP?

[icy laurel]

Už Lietuvą vyrai 🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹

[quasi osprey]

singleplayer

[heavy vigil]

well thats every direction

[quasi osprey]

the soviets still have about 130 divs

[urban flower]

ussr has supply hubs

am so cooked lol

[icy laurel]

I feel like you're overstretched hard cause you're hella focused on the middle front

I'd try to make a massive encirclement on Leningrad if you're able

[quasi osprey]

well I took moscow so I am kinda seeing a possible 30 div encirclement I can make

[quasi osprey]

kinda what I am doing but it will take some time

[icy laurel]

Only way to beat soviets is to just keep encircling, encircling and encircling

[slate dew]

How are you pushing? Air or?

[quasi osprey]

air is taken care of by germany and my units are mid

[hasty linden]

bro is catching them all

[hasty linden]

israeli , chinese ,austrian , tibetian and hungarian

[urban flower]

is that israeli cardinal ??

[urban flower]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Trebitsch-Lincoln

this guy is real i think

[quasi osprey]

germany manages to hold front and I just move my units to places that I consider strategically valuable or weak and encircle stuff, as my army is pretty small I act like a special forces army to take out individual places like when I took Moscow.

[urban flower]

Among his adventures, he worked as a Protestant missionary, Anglican priest, British Member of Parliament for Darlington, German right-wing politician and spy, Nazi collaborator, Buddhist abbot in China, and self-proclaimed Dalai Lama.

He's Hungarian Jew

[hasty linden]

cool

[urban flower]

the israeli part is BS since he's just a jew not per se israeli tho but lol

[slate dew]

Right

[quasi osprey]

and well it seems that that strategy is working

[urban flower]

he also stayed in Austria wtf

bro has travelled everywhere

Bro served 3 warlords in succession that the Nationalists in Shanghai and then the japanese empire wtf

[hasty linden]

most normal spy in history

[urban flower]

if Japan won the war he'd be the Dalai Lama wth

[steel zephyr]

had to gi ve up 2 provinces in latgale because of how many directions they can be attacked from

[rose narwhal]

Are paradox maps licenced?

Does anyone know?

[quasi osprey]

also idk why but I decided to use artilery divs as I didnt have the industry for tanks and well they are pretty powerful

[craggy dove]

how many forts is a river equal to?

[rose narwhal]

@proper crest Are paradox maps licenced?

[static creek]

Going to try to do a run as Italy using only Calvary, black shirts, and mounteers only.

[urban flower]

@snow rain you don't need AA btw

waste of IC

and you can pierce USSR tanks with the tech anyhow

they dont even put up planes

only needed for late game

[steel zephyr]

nice to see new russian enemies

[urban flower]

anyone know when allies declare on ussr?

[quasi osprey]

ussually when germany capitulates

I never saw german france before

[ember vine]

I don't plant bombs like a terrorist, but man I want the 1948 achievement (my computer will explode the shit out of the surroundings)

[steel zephyr]

W donation from moscow

still standing yo

[quasi osprey]

yipee

finally

after whole 2 years of fighting

[craggy dove]

which one better for space marine?

[quasi osprey]

did I get good lands from the peace conference?

moscow and leningrad and lots of resources

[craggy dove]

nope, shouldve taken ukraine and polish lands. You can core them later

if you plan to go poland-lithuania

[quasi osprey]

I went fascist route already cant get the poland-lithuania stuff

[craggy dove]

oh

[quasi osprey]

but still I think this lands are pretty good considering I only had 11% of the peace score

[terse skiff]

the radio is not necessary, and reliability is a wasted stat esp if you are only having one battalion of aa

also don't forget to apply your mio bonus

[craggy dove]

defense is not good?

i plan to hold against soviets

as latvia

[terse skiff]

it's 6 defense

the difference doesn't matter

[snow rain]

either go for breakthrough stack (which is advisable) or cheap, don't add secondary machine guns as you suffer from soft atk penalities iirc
use armor skirts and you need 14 ticks of armor at bare minimum, late game with the armor changed from riveted

[terse skiff]

you don't build tanks to max out defense

[static creek]

What's a op space Calvary template?

[terse skiff]

if you really want to max out armor meme, just add more armor

[snow rain]

also, space marines armormemes don't need to be AA
they can be regular mediums or even SPGs which is generally better

[craggy dove]

i dont have industry for planes

[snow rain]

space cavalry is just a tank division

[craggy dove]

so i thought AA was better

[snow rain]

if you have support AA in your div, you don't need another form of AA

[craggy dove]

oh

[snow rain]

the breakthrough is especially hard to get for inf in the first place

[craggy dove]

breakthrough, got it

thanks!

[terse skiff]

people here seem to think this is stupid but I can pump out 120 36 width divisions of these by barb. can't do that with your 50 soft attack 20 cost designs

[snow rain]

on medium spacemarine armor meme tank you want 3man medium turret, 14 armor clicks, howitzer (the best you have, it's costly) OR automatic gun 2 (AA2 tech), radio, armor skirts, secondary HMGx2

[steel zephyr]

pmo bruh i cant get anywhere

[craggy dove]

is SPG role valid for space marine?

[snow rain]

you can pump 140 of these too

[snow rain]

yes, but you'll lose some breakthrough
if you pick the SPG doctrines then it's all good

[snow rain]

if you have an empty module, it's missed potential
a simple stack of 4 extra ammo would make the tank way better, simple because of more breakthrough at no cost

[terse skiff]

you need to rush 120 division worth of these

that's 120*10*40=48000 spgs

[snow rain]

so?

[craggy dove]

what about reliability? why is it not good?

[snow rain]

extra ammo is literally free stats

[terse skiff]

and then 360 mechs for each division so 120*360 which is also over 40000 mechs

now pump those out for me by summer 1941

[terse skiff]

because reliability is not an important stat

[craggy dove]

dont you lose xp and equipment with low reliability?

[snow rain]

it's not that it's no good, it's that it's either easily avoidable entirely (only matters when units take attrition) or can be ignored because of the lack of impact (for support companies notably, the formula makes 100% reli still take attrition and 30% reli take less somehow

[terse skiff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ4hDfxOCsY

that's why you should watch guides

[steel zephyr]

all crimean losses are also due to me

[fair horizon]

chat is it q2 yet?

[split bane]

Q2 starts in March I think

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

[lost parcel]

lore accurate romania

[fair horizon]

how did you not quit? romania is such crap

[lost parcel]

lore accurately not true

[fair horizon]

go play it

its my least favorite country to play

no industry, no pp, no manpower

and if you ever think you have either pp or industry your ruler says no like every 90 days

[fair horizon]

Trvke

a plane spammer could never understand how satisfying it is to crush the british navy

[foggy depot]

I've yet to do that

I've been playing UK with said navy

[fair horizon]

thats cheating

play a minor and crush their navy

[foggy depot]

Bro I only just learnt the basics of navy, let me have fun 😭

[fair horizon]

have you run into the patrol bug where the fleet is patrolling and everything but provides zero naval dominance?

chat someone give me a country to play that has a coast

[wide pebble]

play denmark

[fair horizon]

that sounds awful ngl

it shall be done

oh we're cooked already

denmark has subs 🤮

[balmy bridge]

[steel zephyr]

war with russia 7 years long now

4m dead russians

[fair horizon]

NOOOOOOOOO

[azure dagger]

EURASIA IS REAL

[feral otter]

I need to play this game fr

[fair horizon]

omg denmark has amazing admirals

positioning and screening efficiency by default? its so beautiful 😭

[zenith charm]

we take thoses

[fair horizon]

not playing usa 🥀

[zenith charm]

america is boooring

[fair horizon]

during the 1700s? thats the best time to be america

[zenith charm]

nah in the mod they only got like a focus tree about economics

plus nothing ever happened in 1790s america soo

[fair horizon]

when does the mod start?

[zenith charm]

1789

[fair horizon]

oh cringe then

[zenith charm]

yeah i mean the whole mod is focused on revolutionnary wars so

[fair horizon]

ayo denmark enjoyers which one is better?

am i screwed out of the left side?

[neat kayak]

i am gonna try democratic china

it seems fun

[whole matrix]

Bro

Why the heck Poland accept Dancig for Slovakia ON HISTORICAL

And then attacks Soviet EARLIER THAN ATTACK FRANCE

[urban flower]

After 7 years of killing the USSR as Tannu Tuva
i just came to the realization i shouldve just paradropped mongolia before USSR joined
Then kill China with Japan such that I have massive manpower and only then kill USSR

can prob even snatch Sinkiang and Khotan Ma before China declares

[steel zephyr]

after 12 latvia runs i think its time to try lithuania

🥹

[heavy vigil]

lithuania is a bit confusing

[steel zephyr]

it sure is a bit bigger than latvia's...

having a look

[feral otter]

Chat what are minimum specs for decent gameplay 🥹

[steel zephyr]

I decided to try the path to this

[fair horizon]

honestly kind of a hard choice

free carrier or free 1936 cruiser...

[steel zephyr]

wow lithuanian starting eco is tough

I was told lithuania was the easiest of the baltics

[fair horizon]

nah just take over your neighbors

[steel zephyr]

exactly my plan 🤤

shouldn't have wasted my limited IC on a railway hugging the border, I need to lock in

[heavy vigil]

its the second strongest start

right behind latvia

it scales better than latvia and latvia isnt exactly hard to take over

estonia is also there

[steel zephyr]

yeah I tried Estonia only once

[heavy vigil]

id build a land facility then mils

[steel zephyr]

had to hold tallinn until eveyrone else ganged on soviets

[heavy vigil]

since civ eco doesnt debuff facilities

[azure walrus]

finally managed to conquer another baltic state

before dying

[azure walrus]

both accepted to formalize the baltic entente

[heavy vigil]

the baltics are popular now huh

oh pro tip

when you only have 1 of 2 conquered

just put it on no garrisons

[steel zephyr]

its just me and my 12 latvia games 🥹

[heavy vigil]

some buildings might get damaged but itll save manpower

[azure walrus]

im on my 5th

[azure walrus]

i see thank you

[steel zephyr]

5th and still doing the lamest path 😢

[azure walrus]

hey

the military directorate is tuff

[delicate ibex]

well i went into the GWR discord server and was banned in not even 1 min

[azure walrus]

😠

[steel zephyr]

LEAST tuff latvia path 🌹

[vital cove]

it is by far

[azure walrus]

cuh youre playing ostland

[vital cove]

you get a free Poland

[delicate ibex]

yep

[vital cove]

which fixes every manpower issue you'll ever have

[azure walrus]

you put the guy with no jawline in charge

in my runs

I keep him as an advisor

js look at these buffs

[vital cove]

you also get to core the other Baltics without even owning them

and then core also half of Ukraine and the some chunks of the Soviet union

you have like 80m core population

[azure walrus]

yeah

so logically

when I play lithuanoia

ill be playing the Military Junta

under Stasys Rastikis

lowkey whats so bad abt the military directorate

[heavy vigil]

no manpower/less eco buffs

[azure walrus]

i mean so does the historical path

[heavy vigil]

they go down to baltic entente which is 3% recruitable and 30% factor

[azure walrus]

isnt the historical path "merge presidential titles"

which gets you only the faction

[heavy vigil]

they have it as option iirc

[steel zephyr]

WHAT?? lithuanian focus gives veterun troops this is tuff

[heavy vigil]

its not fully historical but actual hist is also just meant to be annexed

[heavy vigil]

they designed it so they cant fight back

[azure walrus]

the rest of the baltic union tree is locked behind the democratic path

[vital cove]

many focuses do

its not rare

[azure walrus]

so the historical, integrate farmers party, and militaqry directorate paths all are restricted from the full baltic union

[azure walrus]

are these default faction buffs

[tardy token]

Hi speak spanish?

[heavy vigil]

nope

[azure walrus]

then where are they coming from

[fair horizon]

i screwed up this denmark run bad

[heavy vigil]

maybe im blind but i thought you could do like sidepaths

[azure walrus]

bc integrate the farmers party, military directorate, and merged titles only get the faction

[azure walrus]

ah

no you. cant

[fair horizon]

i probably should have read my tree a bit

[heavy vigil]

or like just dont do the focus thats terrible

[azure walrus]

which one

[heavy vigil]

no okay now youre cropping it out

[azure walrus]

wym

[heavy vigil]

merge presidential titles lets you do the focus on the left

[heavy vigil]

i remember now

[azure walrus]

is this better

as you can see

the baltic economic union focus

[heavy vigil]

im dumb nvm

i hate the baltics

moderately confusing trees

[azure walrus]

i hate the inconsistency

why does lithuanian junta path get wargoals on the other baltics

but not latvian

😠

[heavy vigil]

theyre consistently inconsistent

you have to learn all 3 individually

[azure walrus]

i suppose

[heavy vigil]

especially lithuania because its like so much different

[azure walrus]

but they all have the same economic tree and communist path

[heavy vigil]

communist path is based

double core pop in a 35 day focus

[azure walrus]

but youre so disconnected from belarus as estonia

how do you even get troiops there

[heavy vigil]

take a plane or walk

[proven flame]

How do i stop the allies from guaranteeing finland when i grab romania and turkey as the ussr?

[azure walrus]

you can do that? travel by air to exclaves?

[heavy vigil]

technically

you can paradrop

[azure walrus]

oh

[heavy vigil]

you cant because youve generated too much tension

[azure walrus]

so its like how "naval invading" your own land makes it just a transfer of troops

i see

anyway time to die estonia >:)

[proven flame]

Ah, ok. Still worth getting turkey and romania instead though right?

[heavy vigil]

i dont think so

if you wanna do early wars you could grab poland and germany

lot more eco

[proven flame]

Ah ok

Thanks

[heavy vigil]

but you can do it if you want to

[zenith charm]

pretty good china war i'd say

[azure walrus]

ofc

stalinist ussr declared war on estonia

and it joined the (fascist) allies

(who are at war with the stalinists)

amazing

🙂

[zenith charm]

average ahist what did you expect

[azure walrus]

the stalinists are in a civil war

i thought theyd focus on that

not yknow

the 50% of estonia that still exists

[past osprey]

which of these is best for Germany
for mediums only build and a heavies only build

[jaunty delta]

huh what

what does it want from me

[past osprey]

hoi4 player try to read challenge (impossible)

compliance needs to be 35%

[jaunty delta]

i need to spam mp?

[steel zephyr]

@heavy vigil a whoopsie

[jaunty delta]

mulitary police?

[steel zephyr]

didnt cross the daugava in time

[past osprey]

plain cav is fine
just put it on local police force or something
or civilian oversight if resistance isnt too bad

[past osprey]

if I remember correctly infantry tank is best for tank design, and medium/heavy designer is best for production

am I correct

and Daimler-Benz is just useless

[mystic sand]

So im making a mod that allows Japan to peace out the allies after taking Hawaii and india and I need some advice. Should I make it so the player can peace out both the US and allies at the same time, its be easier to make but harder in game. Or should I make it 2 separate decisions that peace out the us and the rest of the allies separately. This would be harder to make cause id need to make the us leave the allies and not be able to rejoin the allies instantly, but it could make an interesting gameplay loop where you need to force the other sides surrender before the US rejoin the allies and makes it even harder, what do yall think?

[azure walrus]

lets go

The baltics are one under the guiding hand of Balodis

(tough)

now to beat the UK

if only I had an airforce and a navy

[steel zephyr]

boom

[azure walrus]

(dissolving those did in fact help my manpower situation

nice

did you know that the fascist name for that thing is "terra mariana"

isnt that cool

[azure walrus]

can i start making planes and boats now

[heavy vigil]

push their arty divs probably

[heavy vigil]

yes

im preparing an intervention rn

[azure walrus]

latvian inf template

maybe

[steel zephyr]

lithuana is so tuff

[steel zephyr]

bad width

18-21 is a nice width for latvian terrain

[azure walrus]

wwhat if im fighting the british

whats a good width for british terrain

[steel zephyr]

you are not landing in britain buddy

[azure walrus]

i mean they dont have their dominions

and i have both germany and the ussr with me

they are totally loyal allies

[steel zephyr]

maybe they can land but not you

[azure walrus]

can their airforces get me air superiority

so my paratroopers(when i research them) land

bc ai cant paradrop

[fair horizon]

crao

[azure walrus]

imma put an italian colony there

when I play italy

[brittle cypress]

infantry tank is the best for both

[azure walrus]

after i finish ts latvian campaign

[brittle cypress]

optimally you can use daimler benz to produce, and henschel for the design

which is strictly better but it's more complicated

[brittle cypress]

daimler benz is best for production

[azure walrus]

hows ts template(latvia, formed baltic assembly

(decreased width)

[dusky burrow]

32 is fine

[fierce peak]

good

no idea im a beginner but I think bcs towed prolly means its more mobile

[heavy vigil]

i think i can win this

[fierce peak]

late game probably

good

but early game no

[vocal lily]

Pog my typical alt historic game, Road to 56 mod, Allies turned communist Bruh...

[heavy vigil]

as easy as that

[fair horizon]

chat how we liking the danish navy?

[vocal lily]

Aicraft carrier?

[fair horizon]

yeah i read it wrong and accidentally got the carrier instead of cruisers but yeh

[fierce peak]

looks good but I have no idea how it works

[fair horizon]

with as little ships as i have? it doesnt

[fierce peak]

idk If im playing a country where ships are important like germanyI just ignore them

[fair horizon]

well denmark has a nice navy tree so

[dusky burrow]

That's gonna be funny

[vocal lily]

Fun fact, denmark carrier fleet + naval bases

Sound pretty good

[fair horizon]

yeah except the default design is kinda crap

light batteries dont do anything on carriers

or secondaries rather

they dont shoot other ships

[vocal lily]

Yep

[dusky burrow]

You can add another hangar though

[fair horizon]

danish engineering btw

[dusky burrow]

based

[steel zephyr]

lithuania nicer than latvia

[fair horizon]

i figured id be fighting germany this game but they just havent attacked me

[azure walrus]

yeah I dont feel like invading the british

[fair horizon]

its my preferred baltic too

[azure walrus]

I have achieved my objective(showing that latvian military directorate is tuff)

aka forming baltic assembly

[azure walrus]

agree

imma play the lithuanian junta now

[dusky burrow]

Good luck taking Poland

[fair horizon]

you doubt lithuanian military might

norway ill kill you if you try it

this is kinda dumb lmao

[dusky burrow]

And then you get to live on Faroe

[fair horizon]

or greenland

told them no to that one too

[dusky burrow]

Okay that's funny

"Denmark is Rightfully part of the Kingdom of Norway, and not Denmark's"

[fair horizon]

lmao

[pastel olive]

I haven’t played as the Germans yet. Is anyone able to advise if V1s and V2s are modelled and if so how?

[jaunty delta]

man brazil is mad annoying

[fair horizon]

just do what they did in ww1

[zenith charm]

rt56 good lord last time i played that mod was over 3 years ago

[fair horizon]

ignore the sea because you have the bosphorus straits

[steel zephyr]

lithuanian focus tree just too juicy

[heavy vigil]

sending a message

[dusky burrow]

Oh nice

Istanbul's a nice chokepoint

[heavy vigil]

liv rate the k/d (no nukes used for kills)

[dusky burrow]

What happened here lmao

[steel zephyr]

How to move capital?

[heavy vigil]

i used tanks

i stopped using tanks now and my casualties have skyrocketed to 2K for 1.5mil

[azure walrus]

italy game 1

I plan to get holy roman and an empire

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

I'm assuming they're just like normal 36 widths?

[dusky burrow]

pope path?

[azure walrus]

yeah

[heavy vigil]

despite high losses id call this a success

[dusky burrow]

true

[heavy vigil]

SF and main tank units

i can use non nato symbols if you want

[dusky burrow]

Yeah please do

[heavy vigil]

non nato all units used

[dusky burrow]

Essentially https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/xpuay6/heres_how_to_get_the_pope_in_charge/

[azure walrus]

i remember how to get the pope 👍

[fair horizon]

what are the trees?

[dusky burrow]

But also don't forget to put one collab on Yugoslavia and Romania and the like

[azure walrus]

why

are they that hard

[dusky burrow]

forest rangers

[heavy vigil]

ranger

also air

[dusky burrow]

yugoslavia is slightly hard but they're there mainly so that you don't get resistance

also you can paradrop France and do the same thing there too

[azure walrus]

when does france join the allies on historical

[heavy vigil]

aligned the philippines and siam (and stole their resources, didnt puppet)

[steel zephyr]

😢

[azure walrus]

are you in the allies or smth

[dusky burrow]

when did ukraine get freed

[heavy vigil]

factions

[heavy vigil]

fascist ussr

[fair horizon]

is that from a mod or?

[heavy vigil]

no

[dusky burrow]

ncns dlc

[steel zephyr]

russian civil war

[dusky burrow]

I'd be looking into invading Japan perhaps

[dusky burrow]

I see

[heavy vigil]

but theyre fighting evil germany

and evil uk whose been resource starved for 5+ years

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

[heavy vigil]

maybe ill go how do i put this

[dusky burrow]

I guess then it's time to begin the march to Spain

[heavy vigil]

free japan and china from fascism

when theyre done

im chilling i have all the territory i wanted

[urban flower]

Pain but i'm doing it

I think in next years USSR will cap

[dusky burrow]

oof

[urban flower]

thanks to Chinermen holding the line and Tuvan horde sweeping the steppe

iron man siberian tiger finally lol

also finally have an airforce in 1950 (consists of 8 fighters)

it's kinda cool that China is actually a functional nation now post 1945 but it's hella stupid of the brainlet devs that the CCP doesn't even win the war

[heavy vigil]

uh oh game froze

[dusky burrow]

RIP

[heavy vigil]

ah i see why

a bit of territory revolted

[fair horizon]

cry

[heavy vigil]

damn blockades do work

english stockpiles rn

[fair horizon]

i really messed up this denmark run

[heavy vigil]

their prod lines for reference

[urban flower]

lol

also strat bombing can completely destroy a units economy

[heavy vigil]

well yeah but we're not at war

ive destroyed their economy over 5 ish years without a war

[urban flower]

W

[steel zephyr]

soon..

[urban flower]

I've also found a way to get infinite stability as default nation

You hire 2 ideologies you aren't (e.g. I'm communist so I get fascist and democratic demogogue)
Then I spam raiding them

After 70 days the net stability is 2% lol

[heavy vigil]

i mean i have 50 nukes i could destroy an economy through war if i want to

but doing it peacefully is funnier to me

[urban flower]

ig if you want war support you should just not be at war???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQaw-li9NQ8&list=RDKQaw-li9NQ8&start_radio=1

blasting this while I'm pillaging the sclaveni culture

my sibir brethren will join my communist utopian khaganate

[fair horizon]

terrible acheivement

[urban flower]

like 75% of the achievements are filler content lol

[fair horizon]

i had to sit here as neutral for 5 years

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-neutral-gif-8034848

[urban flower]

the maker of the achievements said it was hard to come up with ideas

I think he's just the wrong person for the job

[crisp wyvern]

secured all of central america, mexico and colombia

[heavy vigil]

what is war good for?

[crisp wyvern]

even got myself a colony lmao

[heavy vigil]

much better to stockpile nukes and abuse it once in every 10 or so years

[urban flower]

exactly better to sit afk for 5 years getting max welfare

or nukes

[heavy vigil]

ive been hardcore making railways

[heavy vigil]

converting some civs to mils rn so i can make nuclear missiles but the supply must improve

[crisp wyvern]

global situation

[heavy vigil]

its already a lot better from game start

[amber gyro]

Hi! I'm looking for someone who could make a simple portrait mod for me. I want all UK leaders (every ideology) to have their portrait changed to a specific UK countryball image that I have ready, and I want their name changed to "UK Ball" instead of Churchill/Baldwin/etc. I have the exact PNG image I want used and can send it to whoever is willing to help. I'm on version 1.17 and I have zero modding experience so I can't do it myself. Thanks! Also I don't mind if you publish it to the Steam Workshop for everyone to use, I'd actually like that! Just please send me the link when it's done so I can find it and subscribe. And do that in DMS please. Thanks again! Also, yes, I know this isn't the modding channel, but the modding channel is the most inactive place on planet Earth. So I was hoping to get help here in this channel since it's a lot more active.

[urban flower]

just build infra

[thick kettle]

Forest Hell

[urban flower]

that ups the supplies

[thick kettle]

mmm it's rather recommended to send it there though

it's not even dead

[amber gyro]

I tried literally not many people responded and when I did and when somebody did, they thought I could do it myself, despite the fact I have no coding experience and no modding experience. Is it dead? No, but it hasn't been helpful to me. Absolutely not.

Which is why I'm trying on here, because I don't have many other options because I'm not part of any official Hoi 4 modding Discord server.

[dusky burrow]

just use rangers

[heavy vigil]

i love the supply map mode because it reminds me of those japanese empire pics

[heavy vigil]

i already did that lol

australia has an awful supply system tho at game start

[amber gyro]

Which is why I would deeply appreciate it if anybody with coding or modding experience would help me out with this. Because again, I have absolutely no clue what I'm doing. LOL.

[vital cove]

because you're not supposed to fight in Australia

[urban flower]

east or west Australia

[vital cove]

who even goes to Australia

[urban flower]

cuz the middle is just the outbac

how are SOV at 77% already

[heavy vigil]

west, north and south

but east isnt amazing either

[heavy vigil]

me

[dusky burrow]

"ah yes i don't want to conquer the big pool of resources right on my southern border"

[urban flower]

look how much they still have

[dusky burrow]

said no one ever

[urban flower]

thy still have leningrad stalingrad moscow novgorod

[thick kettle]

true

[vital cove]

no I'll just kill the uk and get Australia for free

[thick kettle]

soon to lose leningrad btw

[thick kettle]

*gets casually naval invaded

bro just invade the southern region

[dusky burrow]

ESpecially when that supply system means that you only need to take the coast

[thick kettle]

it's easier

[urban flower]

yeah lol

and stalingrad

mfrs have 68 divs on Tannu Tuva but 0 on Stalingraf

[heavy vigil]

do you start your games in europe

[urban flower]

(after i just encircled 30 in the biggest SOV blunder this game)

[dusky burrow]

Also yeah if you start in Asia Europe tends to be a bit far away

[heavy vigil]

okay so timeline is silly

ussr formed the warsaw pact

[vital cove]

most of them? but i play pretty much any nation besides commonwealth nations

[heavy vigil]

which is now the greater east asian co prosperity sphere

and so communist ussr is in GEACPS

[dusky burrow]

By the way the Soviet AI is absolutely frustrating to deal with when they lead a faction

[urban flower]

wtf Siberia can form turkestan?

[thick kettle]

Brazil joins Comitern

[dusky burrow]

Tannu Tuva can form both

[thick kettle]

omfg

[dusky burrow]

I mean that's fine

[steel zephyr]

half of the st petersburg gaurds neutralized

[urban flower]

the entire turkestan is SOV territory right?

[dusky burrow]

But them setting the faction goal to "let's have 6 puppets" when we already own all of that land

so we can't make 6 puppets there

[vital cove]

ai should not be allowed to set faction goals when there's a human in the faction

[urban flower]

I can form the Turkic-Sibir Khaganate
and then go on to sack Baghdad
then die by falling of my horse.
Have my 15 sons geonosiside half the world and then return to my capital and have it remain being a rural backwater

bruh saying geonosiside is bannable

[azure walrus]

i havent touched italy in a while

so remind me

is there any particular strat for

conquering ethiopia before they send away haile selassie

??

[urban flower]

No collab no Chelyabinsk taken and none of the main cities yet alread almost capped wtf

ig if you just completely ruin SOV war support you can cap them ez

[dusky burrow]

Yeah and by the way it keeps also setting it so that only it can set faction goals

[urban flower]

should get air acces as GER and strat bomb SOV industry for earlier cap in the future

[dusky burrow]

Which, like, wtf

You're just wasting faction initiative points at that rate

Our war support could be like 30% higher if you didn't do that

[azure walrus]

is annexing or puppeting ethiopia better

or aoi

[fair horizon]

iceland time

[azure walrus]

cool

but you know what is another northern-ish nation you can play?

nvm

[azure walrus]

play the monarchist path 👍

[heavy vigil]

also some are stupidly easy while others require war

[fair horizon]

ew no

[cedar kite]

"path"

[azure walrus]

i mean if the kingdom of finland counts then

[cedar kite]

they are both like 1 focus

[azure walrus]

to be fair Iceland has the entire loyalty tree

i think?

[fair horizon]

denmark is not my king

[azure walrus]

how do i play as jan mayen

[heavy vigil]

cheats or no cheats

[azure walrus]

preferably no cheats

[heavy vigil]

then youd have to get wojtek in charge of poland

and then get the island

theres some event chain for it

[azure walrus]

i see

no johan mayen world conquest today then

[heavy vigil]

its rlly hard

also look at this ai world war

[azure walrus]

who are you

which country

[fair horizon]

trying to decide whether or not i should go with fascism or communism iceland

[azure walrus]

mo-nar-chy! mo-nar-chy!

[fair horizon]

never

[azure walrus]

its better than democracy

[urban flower]

I present you the great Sibir state

Turkestan was united as well

also europe is decently not bordergore

[azure walrus]

if i had a nickel for every time I have seen china take the baltics in an ss in hoi4 general chat

id have two nickels

which isnt a lot but its weird that it happened twice

[fair horizon]

i love it

[urban flower]

What the based?

oh there's ethnic tension by Kurds...
Let them make Assyria 🗿

Also thank you Turkey for contributing nothing, you now get the Sinai

[azure walrus]

they get that through a focus right?

(and palestinian + jordanian puppet)

[urban flower]

SOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE

WW3 incoming

[urban flower]

ah really

[cedar kite]

the core for jan mayen only shows up when you control or own it as wojtek, so when you release it they loose the core on themselves

[azure walrus]

either this or this

the first one

yeah pretty sure the first one bc the second focus shown above asks the UK about the gulf countries(shocking)

[urban flower]

ummmm how long untill i get the manpower of formables?

[heavy vigil]

no

only the suez

its a broken focus

[azure walrus]

oh fr?

how do they get the puppets then

[heavy vigil]

only iraq gets puppets

turkiye doesnt

[azure walrus]

odd

i definitely remember turkey getting palestine and (trans)jordan as dominions

along with the suez

how do they get that again

is it in taking over defense of the gulf

[fair horizon]

i already messed up my iceland run

[urban flower]

19.0 K/D

https://tenor.com/view/mongolian-gif-24685364

does anyone know more shizo nomadic empires to build?

[azure walrus]

yk the kumul khanate

the tiny one-state releasable in sinkiang

[urban flower]

yeah i already reformed Yuan

shit is funny ngl

[azure walrus]

do you have ncns btw

(i dont)\

[urban flower]

i have all dlcs

[azure walrus]

nice

anyway play obedient manchukuo

[urban flower]

i treated myself to some dlcs for free proportional to the amount of money i spend that they made free

[azure walrus]

👍

[urban flower]

I'm not a pirate ofc

[azure walrus]

play obedient manchukuo trust

orrrr

play the latvian military directorate

[urban flower]

i played manchukuo at least 20 times lol

[azure walrus]

fair

[urban flower]

i formed qing a lot in MP

and also SP

[azure walrus]

what about the obedience path

[urban flower]

yeah also in MP but it's pretty boring

[fair horizon]

iceland sucks

[urban flower]

what about this

[azure walrus]

do you enjoy pain

[urban flower]

as turkey core Finland, Hungary, Manchukuo???

[azure walrus]

you have to play the turkish focus tree

[zealous berry]

hi guys

[azure walrus]

💀

[urban flower]

brother i just formed siberia on historical iron man idk if there is anything more painful

[azure walrus]

well you were probably having dopamine ported directly into your brain by john tannu tuva himself

so that doesnt count

[urban flower]

and unlike previous updates, now you have to fight the soviers. Before you could at least take china first

[azure walrus]

how about world conquest as realm of great god of light

actually

i know something

you know the sweden hungary united kingdom

?

[urban flower]

you could also say I'm accustomed to turkey as well

ottoman empire go brr

[urban flower]

yes lol

I've wanted to do that for so long but you cant release them at start sadly

[azure walrus]

set soviets to fragmented

and tagswitch ig

or play through the leftist opposition and release them like that

but thats less fun

[urban flower]

i did chagatai khanate, golden horde and ilkhanate

and also realm of the red dragons

[azure walrus]

are those in vanilla hoi4

[urban flower]

or smth shizo (communist bhutan)

[urban flower]

yes

Neo-Chagatai is Sinkiang

[azure walrus]

ohh

[urban flower]

the others i cant remember, they're also ideology specific

[azure walrus]

ik kalmykia is great horde

but anyway

[urban flower]

i didnt even know that

[azure walrus]

yk the sweden hungary union that hungary can do in gotterdammerung right

you think you could

do the union

flip fascist somehow

and conquer all europe

?

[urban flower]

u used to be able to make neo-chagatai with mac arthur as leader

[urban flower]

ez lol

Hungary is OP

[azure walrus]

the challenge is flipping fascist

[urban flower]

Litteraly has more than 4 building slots and 80k core pop men smh

[azure walrus]

i have yet to figure out a ironman compatible way of doing this

[urban flower]

just join axis and declare on sweden?

[azure walrus]

the path is democratic

[urban flower]

ah lol

uh wtf

[azure walrus]

it starts with you killing off fasc support

have you not seen the union of sweden hungary

path in the gotterdammerung tree

[urban flower]

i mean still you can just ignore focus and kill sweden first no problem

[azure walrus]

no

you get the option through the focu

s

[urban flower]

why not?

[azure walrus]

and THEN you kill sweden

[urban flower]

just justify on them

[azure walrus]

conquer them in 1936?

[urban flower]

nah you're at war in 1936 but you kill them much later

maybe join axis, declare on them, become democratic??

or doesn't that work

wait lemme see actually

[azure walrus]

take a look at that path

[urban flower]

forgot you start as non-aligned

[azure walrus]

and then you must flip democratic

then wait until either high world tension or going to war to flip back to nonaligned

(theres also a union of hungary and romania that can be done diplomatically)

[urban flower]

you have lot of ways to get fascist support

[azure walrus]

after the process of killing it all off is done?

[zealous berry]

Do you guys like my painted map?

[urban flower]

you do Subvert Gombos Troops than fascist demogogue

[azure walrus]

where is the suspicious señor

[azure walrus]

one moment

[safe wing]

Monarchist Italy guide?

I have a general idea on how to do it

[urban flower]

also anti-democrat raids

[azure walrus]

you have to go democratic though

[dusky burrow]

True, although the war ones turned out to be pretty easy in my case since all I had to do is declare on Austria and then both sides of the UK civil war

[zealous berry]

I didn't tried, Germany always choose fascism

[urban flower]

?

this is before even doing the foci

[azure walrus]

oh

[azure walrus]

so you DO mean conquering sweden in 1936

[urban flower]

first you do those two on the left, get fascist demogogue do anti-democrat raids and then focus on economy and getting rid of penalty

[azure walrus]

or just ignoring the political tree

[azure walrus]

so you mean ignoring the political tree and conquering sweden otherwise?

also hungary doesnt have a fasc demagogue

from what i can tell

[urban flower]

once you're fascist join axis

then declare on sweden

Sweden has an actual navy so get paratroopers and drop them from german airports

[azure walrus]

how you gonna flip back nonaligned

[azure walrus]

hes a different guy tho

[urban flower]

huh isnt sweden the right branch?

[azure walrus]

oh ewait im blind

sorry

sorry

anyway

do we have a democratic guy

and once again

doesnt it have to be specifically a "Fascist Demagogue" advisor

to flip fascist

[urban flower]

lemme test

i think 60% triggers the auto convert

[azure walrus]

uh

[heavy vigil]

theres no auto convert

its only a mechanic with certain focus trees such as the generic one

[urban flower]

hmmm

[urban flower]

how long does Hungarian Monarchy and Crack down on radicals last is the real question

also there is unaligned guy

but yeah

not possible to fascist auto convert

[azure walrus]

well then

i suppose this may be hard

[urban flower]

okey no problem you can still do ez

[azure walrus]

how tho

[urban flower]

just have to wait until 40% world tension and do the same as non aligned hungary

just ban fascism early

[azure walrus]

*50%

[azure walrus]

wym

[urban flower]

50

i mean join axis and declare on sweden

you can get ez join if ur at war with someone germany hates

[azure walrus]

wouldnt ww2 be unfolding already

[urban flower]

yeah for sure but that's no problem

Just paradrop them same plan

UK wont help cuz Sweden is isolated

[azure walrus]

how to switch fascist AFTER getting option to form sweden hungaery

*hungary

[urban flower]

there is -25% jsutification time guy that also gives -30% tension limit for join faction

how much can you make GER like you with diplo pressure etc etc

yeah paradrop sweden, take port and use cas + inf blobs ez win

[azure walrus]

what does this have to do with flipping fascist

[urban flower]

dont build goofy tanks or artillery

[urban flower]

no fascism

just non-aligned

i said ban fascism

[azure walrus]

well at that point you can flip back to nonaligned after turning democratic

but the question here was about fascism specifically

[urban flower]

wait u want a fascist sweden hungary?

[azure walrus]

that was the point

from what i can tell

its impossible

[fair horizon]

SMALL ISSUE I DONT HAVE AN ARMY

[urban flower]

if you have good RNG germany can puppet you

unless that's mod feature

[azure walrus]

italy can also increase fasc popularity correct?