hoi4-general

[mighty bone]

No i was getting the carlist achievement as well

I was forced to do it this way

[clever shuttle]

smart

[steel zephyr]

soviet civil war in the middle of the war

[mighty bone]

also anarchism 0% stability infinite strikes is not something i look forward to in a 1950 playthrough

[unreal mica]

Finally won as iran

[mighty bone]

wait grishguy do you know for the sami achievement can you get it as spain?

I can quickly invade the soviets they have like 200 factories

[clever shuttle]

is there anything in hoi4 that adds hardness to an division but does not use fuel

[mighty bone]

land cruiser?

[clever shuttle]

huh? sami? as in sapmi?

[mighty bone]

yes

[clever shuttle]

whats that?

[unreal mica]

I play on a toaster pc that has to turn off everything else to run hoi4 its a miracle I’m playing after 1942 let alone win against the ottomans

[mighty bone]

when you research 1943 super heavy theres a project called Land Cruiser

its like a super heavy tank cubed

[clever shuttle]

tbh idk i think you have to invade sweden, norway and finland too

[mighty bone]

Those are soviet puppets

[clever shuttle]

ahh yeah but how does it not use fuel

[clever shuttle]

ahh nice

[mighty bone]

Out of the 14 years i've been playing this hell soviets have been at war for 14 of them

russia has never known peace

[signal oracle]

Manpower final Boss

[clever shuttle]

yea soviet is so dumb just declares at the whole world and dies super annoying, they have to either buff soviet or just dont make them dumb

[mighty bone]

actually it prolly does

[clever shuttle]

ye

[mighty bone]

No thats not what happened

the soviets fought only defensive waars

first they had civil war

Germany launched Barb

Japan went strike north

[clever shuttle]

damnnnn

[mighty bone]

UK invaded because mosley focus tree

Iran invaded

they legit only fought defensive wars

[clever shuttle]

yeah

[mighty bone]

and now im boutta invade them

hah

[clever shuttle]

btw sithcriker how did u invade uk as spain?

[mighty bone]

Paratroopers

[clever shuttle]

ahh yeah

[mighty bone]

thats how i capped uk twice

[clever shuttle]

a lot of them or just target dockyards?

docks i meant

[mighty bone]

target docks?

Bro i just sent them to hull and sent in my tanks

[clever shuttle]

navalbases

[mighty bone]

oh yeah

[clever shuttle]

oh smart

[mighty bone]

If you look at this picture UK ai never garrisons NOrwich and Ipswich well

those are often free

That or hull

[clever shuttle]

but how did u send ur troops without dying?

[mighty bone]

well

thats because I trapped uk navy in the med and most of their fleet was in japan

I actually do not even attribute this win to my own success

[azure walrus]

🔥

[steel zephyr]

yaroslavl for free 🤑

[mighty bone]

I got lucky that i got the worlds most competent japan as my ally

these guys invaded through india to turkey

to cap them

I was crying of happiness

[clever shuttle]

nicee

[mighty bone]

they even capped australia and new zealand

[clever shuttle]

but was it only 12 tanks it must have been more tho?

[ancient drum]

is there a way to just simplify navy

[mighty bone]

I started researching tanks in 1947

[signal oracle]

Invaded Ireland, nice try Goy

[ancient drum]

like can i spam a certain type of ships and infinite win

[mighty bone]

bro its post peacedeal

im no longer at war

[clever shuttle]

empty cruisers for naval dominance plus carriers. and just taking others navy

[steel zephyr]

to vologda we go

[mighty bone]

New navy system is super ass

just use para spam

[clever shuttle]

yea

[mighty bone]

i actually really loved old navy

that shit made sense

this is just terrible

[clever shuttle]

fr

[deep solstice]

LOOK AT THIS ENCIRCLEMENT

[mighty bone]

when i invaded the uk the first time i used this division

[clever shuttle]

im starting an game whats an fun niche country path?

[mighty bone]

its a slightly improved version of the fascist spain template

[clever shuttle]

i use the same its so good

[half onyx]

Please dont post gifs or images including modern political, or controversial figures

[mighty bone]

Lithuania commonwealth

[mighty bone]

i used it because i started with it

[mighty bone]

i really only use tanks

i chose to ignore tanks cuz im playing as goddamn carlist spain but i eventually get a massive industry

[clever shuttle]

commie or the non alligned one?

[mighty bone]

theres a commie path to get poland?

idk if thats true

[clever shuttle]

yes

[mighty bone]

spain might be the worse country to do achievement runs as

besides ethiopia

[clever shuttle]

im gonna try some real niche country new zealand

[mighty bone]

2 manpower gaming

[steel zephyr]

w speed

[clever shuttle]

u think i can take over usa or not for formable nation?

[mighty bone]

i mean

i really dont think nz world conq is possible

[steel zephyr]

offensive so tuff they capitulated

[clever shuttle]

I mean they just need to be capped so i can take hawaai

[signal oracle]

Noooo, he is a dead military officer and I got the gif from here?

[lapis gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[mighty bone]

Spain focus tree is maybe the worst of all time

carlist in particular

[clever shuttle]

new zealand yes

[azure walrus]

latvia game 3

[mighty bone]

Half of these focuses are useless

[azure walrus]

(year is 1940)

[mighty bone]

you never unlock the ability to create factions

[clever shuttle]

yea but i have heard they good tho for some reason like bonuses

[half onyx]

Any political or controversial figure from 1945 onwards death or alive are banned.

[mighty bone]

i would say this is pretty op but litterally i have no other national spirits

this is js nuke stuff

[mighty bone]

siberian tiger ahh ss

[clever shuttle]

@mighty bone u think i as communist new zealand can join soviet union and then like soviet union cooks ans caps japan and allies?

[mighty bone]

Do you think you can garrison urself against us and uk naval invasions

thats gonna be a long game

[clever shuttle]

yea probably

[mighty bone]

and trust me ik the allies will be sending naval invasion after invasion

also

[wary cloud]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[mighty bone]

USSR never beats end game allies

they are unbeatable

[inland falcon]

Any nation can world conquest

[glad forum]

Hu

Hi

[wary cloud]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[glad forum]

Yeahmannn

[clever shuttle]

but if i like do the focus they will become a little bit better and cook tho

like join the cominterm

[mighty bone]

endgame us and uk can only be beaten by a player

[glad forum]

What about Italian east africa

[mighty bone]

is that playable?

[glad forum]

Yeahman

[clever shuttle]

but can soviet union hold them off tho?

[mighty bone]

no

[glad forum]

Nah they can't hold IEA

[mighty bone]

trust me when i was playing as spain i was watching soviets get obliterated for 14 yrs

[glad forum]

Year 15 would have been the year

You left too soon

[mighty bone]

i own this part of core soviet territory without ever declaring on them

[worn coral]

guys

[mighty bone]

they will always fail

[worn coral]

how do i get democratic support after the german civil war

[clever shuttle]

what if i mess with the politic of usa

[glad forum]

Elect democratic advisor

[worn coral]

there isnt one

[mighty bone]

you can commie civil war them but i doubt that would be enough

[glad forum]

Uhm. Boost democracy

[worn coral]

how

[steel zephyr]

cheers for that hitler

[glad forum]

Decisions

[worn coral]

u cant boost

u can only ban

and raid

[glad forum]

Astagfirullah

Look google

[worn coral]

i will inapropriately touch you

[clever shuttle]

@mighty bone what if i early justify on australi and then take over uk?

[glad forum]

Yeahmannn 😍😍😍

[mighty bone]

with what navy are you landing

[inland falcon]

They're still trying to find it

[clever shuttle]

dont need one just need soviet union in war with uk and then germany joins the war too against uk and hopefully they fold

[glad forum]

They are sending parts

IKEA way

[inland falcon]

"Just use your imagination"

[worn coral]

send him one drop of fuel

[glad forum]

Its the thought that counts

[mighty bone]

fuel isnt an issue if u havbe building slots

[clever shuttle]

are u an swede by any chance?

[mighty bone]

js spam refs

[glad forum]

No

[worn coral]

what if stalin image a world where the ussr won the cold war?

does that count

[clever shuttle]

scandi?

[glad forum]

They did

[glad forum]

Nohmannn

[clever shuttle]

norrmän?

[glad forum]

Magyar

[inland falcon]

Tbf refineries got nerfed recently. They don't produce fuel now, at least not nearly enough

[mighty bone]

...

[glad forum]

Nohmannn

[inland falcon]

Wait really

How many did you build

[mighty bone]

is there a way to check?

[inland falcon]

Roughly

[worn coral]

why do you need silos with that much oil

[mighty bone]

i didnt build silos

[worn coral]

just wasted time

[mighty bone]

I conquered them

[worn coral]

ok daddy

[mighty bone]

well i have without controlling asian states that make rubber

[worn coral]

why tomato

[glad forum]

Yeahman

You have aussa

[azure walrus]

democracy in this world is COOKED if the democratic major I ask for guarantees is Czechoslovakia 😭

[inland falcon]

Yeah refineries are still really good for rubber, especially as Germany

[mighty bone]

dawg im playing as carlist spain 🙏 i built these to beat UK's airfleet

[glad forum]

Dont udnerstandkktma5ey4jdic brhem them

[azure walrus]

??1!

[signal oracle]

Damn, cheers man, maybe I should repeek the rules

[azure walrus]

france exists btw

[glad forum]

Exactly what I said

[azure walrus]

colonial empire and all

[glad forum]

🫩🫩

Why

[half onyx]

Its all good!

[azure walrus]

But czechoslovakia leads the czech entente(which france is in) so theyre a better choice all of a sudden

[leaden wraith]

yes rico, kaboom

[glad forum]

So no orban Viktor?

[mighty bone]

bluds playing on a downgraded version

[inland falcon]

I mean, if they don't die czechoslovakia is a pretty okay ally

[half onyx]

nope!

[glad forum]

Why

[inland falcon]

IRL they could've possibly held out against the germans

[glad forum]

He is very pro

1m every day🤑🤑🤑🤑

[half onyx]

Modern politicans are not allowed at all

[glad forum]

To keep immigrants out

[mighty bone]

what about gunther fehlinger

[half onyx]

Not allowed either. Even in the context of him playing hoi4

[glad forum]

What about Romanian ones? they are primitive

[azure walrus]

I think this is a sign that maybe the Romanovs should have stayed in exile

[half onyx]

All politicans includes Romanian politicians

[glad forum]

Ik hvj daniel

[half onyx]

English only

[glad forum]

I love you daniel

When will we go rotjeknor together

[sly venture]

do yall know why my troops have wide open breakthroughs and don’t go for them

[mighty bone]

can someone explain why my troops in the baltics are not supplied with fuel even though i have ports in the baltic sea

[mighty bone]

supply

[sly venture]

like look at this Paris is wide open and he won’t go for it

[sharp sierra]

well its a thin line

frontline ai isnt smart like that

[sly venture]

I mean I brought him another troops and got him there but it could go way faster

[glad forum]

🔥🤑🤑🤑

Big dolla dolla

[mighty bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1096513223018160261.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=SkullSpin

[sharp sierra]

what is this

[glad forum]

More dolla dolla

Guys enough money winning for tonight

I dont want to lose it

🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[glad forum]

Money

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/atlas-earth-atlas-earth-ad-i-just-bought-more-land-in-the-metaverse-meme-crypto-gif-4871652658017292382

[glad forum]

Yeahmannnn

Good idea

@half onyx is this allowed

Moneymaking

[worn coral]

guys

5 civs or 2 civs + 10% construction speed?

[mighty bone]

what countrey are you playing as?

[sharp sierra]

how many do you have to build with

[worn coral]

portugal

[mighty bone]

is this a long or short game

[worn coral]

but im doing iberian socialist union

its may 37

[mighty bone]

10%

[sharp sierra]

iberian socialist union as portugal is infinitely funner than anything spain has

[mighty bone]

spain is the shitiest country to play as

Ur game starts in 38

[sharp sierra]

yea its just not that fun

turkey spain and switzerland

feel like sweden had an annoying focus tree too

norway finland and denmarks are way better

[mighty bone]

the only good thing as spain is you can get portugal for free if you get luck on unhistorical

[inland falcon]

actually i think the spanish civil war is pretty fun

[mighty bone]

you think its fun to have to play with 90% attack dmg reduced?!?

[inland falcon]

yes, i do.

[mighty bone]

you like suffering?

[sharp sierra]

and ur the player paradox interactive listens to

[inland falcon]

no i just dont launch offensives in those states

[mighty bone]

the unplanned offensive modifier is the worst thing in hoi4 besides late game allies

[sharp sierra]

yea its not fun

[inland falcon]

i dont think set up funny line, click button, green, win, is very fun

[sharp sierra]

no one does that

[mighty bone]

bro thinks we are in 2019

[inland falcon]

some people are, regardless, i like focusing on limited offensives

[sharp sierra]

i wanna play spain and do other shit quickly

[inland falcon]

yeah the post civil war content sucks ass

[mighty bone]

i love getting my first special research facility in 1944

[inland falcon]

but in all fairness, i think they fall more into the same area as the middle eastern countries do. you're immediately cockblocked by majors for expansion

[sharp sierra]

at least as iran you can just get indian manpower and do whatever u want

[inland falcon]

screw iran i wanna play iraq without having to invade the UK for kuwait

[mighty bone]

the issue with the spanish content is that it is outdated

iran is js slop

[unreal mica]

Iran is just cursed

[inland falcon]

still, both suffer from the british being colonial bastards

[unreal mica]

Guys

I wipe the floor with the ottomans

and then russia declares war on me

[inland falcon]

like yeah sure, limited war opportunity for degrelle's belgium against france, but no limited war anywhere else. wonderful.

[mighty bone]

thats the tno guy

[inland falcon]

True,,,

He's actually the kaiserredux burgundy guy too, which is the tno country

[unreal mica]

And i cant even cap the ottomans cuz their capital is in cyprus

Ans they have 0% surrender limit

[sharp sierra]

other terrible things this game does

[inland falcon]

Then naval invade cyprus

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[unreal mica]

I’m iran with four destroyers fighting the ottoman empire with 30 ships including battleships

[inland falcon]

Oh okay

[mighty bone]

guys rate my sapmi achievement run ignore the weird stuff

[inland falcon]

Paradrop Cyprus

[unreal mica]

I have zero planes

And they have an airforce

[inland falcon]

Why not

[unreal mica]

Because I’m iran

[inland falcon]

Skill issue icl

[unreal mica]

Try playing iran urself in kaiserreich

[sharp sierra]

what does icl mean

[mighty bone]

crazy how world conq against UK is higher percent done than Nordic conquest

[unreal mica]

Just give it a little try

[unreal mica]

Does it require the dlc?

[inland falcon]

I can't lie

[mighty bone]

i dont think so

both are no dlc required achievements

spain own gibby and sapmi

i used to be at 55%...

long road ahead

[sharp sierra]

im at like 70

i just did the hard communist china one where u have to cap kmt china and japan before 1940

[unreal mica]

Iran is just impossible you just can’t

[sharp sierra]

do u have india

[unreal mica]

Egypt why is egypt easier than iran

[unreal mica]

I have no dlcs so i play modded hoi4

[unreal mica]

I saw a guy play jabal shammar take the middle east why is it possible as jabal shammar but not iran

Why does turley have 0% surrender limit how I don’t understand

[distant hollow]

Yo bro my europe is kinda messed up

Is ts a new update

[unreal mica]

No its fine iraq is iraq

[silver eagle]

I'm playing road to 56 and i dont think theres any cold war to be had..

[unreal mica]

What is this

Goddamn

[silver eagle]

1947 btw

[unreal mica]

i should check that out

[silver eagle]

and also I ended up with 2 yamato class battleships for conquouring japan (my favorite type of battle ship)

[gilded nymph]

this navel stuff is confusing me

[silver eagle]

play for another 100 hours you might learn a thing

[gilded nymph]

i was use to the other update with the navel stuff

[sharp sierra]

yea i think this way makes a bit more sense but how it was before was more convenient with the strike force projection

[long pendant]

guys

smth crazy happened

i did berlin moscow shit

and i was constantly checking the date

and i managed to do sm frame perfect shi so that the soviet union joined my brand new alliance after leaving the one made 2 seconds ago

[long pendant]

banglastan ahh

[urban tide]

Anyone know why in Steam I have only purchased 2 DLC but in the paradox launcher I have "owned 27"? At one time I subbed for the monthly for 3 months but didn't renew. I have ZERO clues why it thinks I have all the content.

[mighty bone]

America starts of with a faction in 1936 start date?

since when is this a thing

[half onyx]

Do you still have all the DLCs when loading the game?

[urban tide]

Pretty sure, yeah. How do I know for sure? I have them all enabled and it shows it as “owned”

[half onyx]

Well, start a new game and see if they are all active in it. If so I would just say youre lucky...

[long pendant]

phillipines is prolly why, same with GB.

and her allies

[spiral gull]

hello guys its my first time here

how does it work to get in a full campaign with someone?

[inland falcon]

Can you explain what you mean

[spiral gull]

like

i just invite ppl and thats it?
To come with me and go a full game

I mean I joined a voice chat and asked some things but they started mocking me idk why

[inland falcon]

Oh, you can host a game in multiplayer, assuming you haven't pirated the game

[spiral gull]

i have it on my steam, i just dont have all DLCs

[inland falcon]

Oh, yeah that should work

If someone else hosts you can access all DLC for that particular game

[spiral gull]

oh good

[inland falcon]

But yeah, press multiplayer and host game if you want to host yourself

[spiral gull]

i mean is there anyone here at this time that would play with me or

[inland falcon]

You'll have to check #historical-multiplayer or #alt-history-multiplayer

But I'd recommend letting someone else host if you don't have all the DLC

[spiral gull]

14m delay is dyabolical

[inland falcon]

Idk, prevents spam I suppose

[spiral gull]

bro i dont think anyone wants to play rn

isnt there like a free for all idk

where you can just join and be happy taking control of any country

[inland falcon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I don't play mp very often so idk

[cedar monolith]

hoping to annex pre war

[opal nymph]

Why would you

[cedar monolith]

for manpower chrome and rubber, also, free territory in west pacific

[opal nymph]

Funnily enough, it might actually prevent Japan from declaring on you if they goofed up focus design

[opal nymph]

You lose manpower garrisoning

You dont get the chrome and rubber as effectively either

1 civ for 80 is better than just getting like 20

The Philippines arent core states, but map painting is always nice

You do you

[cedar monolith]

im running 35 day focuses and non historical, i totally agree there are better ways to get those recources, excating for chrome in oregon and alaske gives 26, and i can build rubber refineries. but my hegemony lol

[azure walrus]

through my focus tree I accidentally hit total mobilization

[opal nymph]

To be fair, if you manage to build compliance, things should be fine, but that will take time

[azure walrus]

I should go to partial right?

[opal nymph]

Probably

Or you take the manpower hit

[cedar monolith]

i cant type for nothing 🤣

[opal nymph]

And switch from it during war to war eco

[opal nymph]

I trade for chromium from cuba

[cedar monolith]

m not even out of 36 yet lol

[azure walrus]

My fallback line is very weak in south

[opal nymph]

Oh...

[cedar monolith]

gonna annex cuba too

[opal nymph]

You are going to get vaporized

[azure walrus]

I have until November

[opal nymph]

What dlc do you have

[cedar monolith]

none

[azure walrus]

(Its April)

(My nonagression pact with Russia lasts until November, it is *May right now)

[cedar monolith]

only what comes with vanilla

[opal nymph]

You might want to puppet cuba

[cedar monolith]

and a 35 day usa focus mod

[opal nymph]

So you dont lose out on that juicy chromium

[azure walrus]

Im using this time to get the Eastwall(Forts on the eastern border) and join the Czech Entente(which has France, Czechoslovakia, and Romania)

[opal nymph]

That speeds things up

[azure walrus]

Id prefer for that not to happen

[azure walrus]

see the above preparations

[azure walrus]

and the above time limit

surely this should help

[opal nymph]

You might hold out then if france comes in to garrison

[cedar monolith]

quite a bit yes. ive been trying to do the global hegemony focus but britain keeps C blocking me

[opal nymph]

You are the US

Take them out

[cedar monolith]

aye

[opal nymph]

You are also stronger than normal US

[azure walrus]

for reference here is a map

[opal nymph]

Because you have a mod that ruins the pacing

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-sea-lion-neck-bounce-funny-gif-17521201136049106636

[azure walrus]

(I would join the Allies, but theyre fascist and at war with the Japanese, USA, India, and China)

[cedar monolith]

the pacing is offset as i skip the civil war section of the focus tree so getting to 30% facism support with just charles coughlin takes a while

though i dont honestly know if that offsets the pacing

i just thin it does

[opal nymph]

Ah, you just did war powers act

Who needs confederate larpers when you can remain democratic

[cedar monolith]

yeah, america first, straight to war powers, no Junta state

[cedar monolith]

EXACTLY

[azure walrus]

lastly, I have this here armored division template

[opal nymph]

Neocon USA circa 1938

[opal nymph]

The 70 day focuses help make things semi historical in timeframe

[sharp sierra]

how bout dat pricks face when he saw da gyatt

[opal nymph]

Look at the org

What do you notice

[azure walrus]

8.3

[cedar monolith]

but its not facism if i control the narrative 😂

[opal nymph]

Now, 30 is usually considered the minimum

[azure walrus]

Ah

[opal nymph]

And you have 8.3 org

[azure walrus]

So I wait until I have more xp

Also what can I do to increase it

[opal nymph]

You have no infantry of any kind protecting your tanks

If you are ultra broke, use cavalry

Otherwise use trucks

You want mech, but you probably wont get any in time

[cedar monolith]

do you think i should do coughlin or taft first?

[azure walrus]

Russia struggling to defeat the Nenetsia breakaway state

should I even be scared of them atp 🥀

[sharp sierra]

never

[azure walrus]

or do the nenets people just mog Russia that hard

[sharp sierra]

they just got no supply

[azure walrus]

fair

I could send them an attache

to slow Russia down

for when they inevitably come knocking at my own door

(Im latvia)

[inland falcon]

Tbf supply up there sucks total ass

[azure walrus]

but cant russia just throw bodies in there until nenetsia surrenders

its not like theyre lacking

(i sincerely hope they try this)

anyway imma send them an attache

[sharp sierra]

theyll lose a bunch of guns

[azure walrus]

aint no way this is the best that the russian army can muster

[plain isle]

yall tom brady would have been able to stop the german blitzkrieg if he had prep time

thoughts?

[azure walrus]

who is tom brady

is he the actor

who is in scientology

[plain isle]

son😭

[azure walrus]

and does his own stunts or smth

[sharp sierra]

i think theyd turn around when they see him making out with his son

[azure walrus]

wait no

[plain isle]

no he has a good Magi-O-Line

see what i did there

sure pal

[azure walrus]

who is he again

[plain isle]

he is tom brady

[azure walrus]

ok well if not acto

r

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-brady-lord-of-the-rings-tb12-champion-rings-gif-1320041161490780164

[plain isle]

germans dont have that many rings

[azure walrus]

oh hes a football player

[plain isle]

oh shit

[sharp sierra]

look up tom brady kisses his son

[plain isle]

https://youtu.be/6mpnIO4FgCs?si=_ZtLGuWFFAAVnX58

this is cinema

[sharp sierra]

oh mark felton productions

[plain isle]

yessir

[quasi shoal]

Yes

He could

[dusky burrow]

ah i love imro

[plain isle]

im saying

[dusky burrow]

maybe

[plain isle]

no he def could with prep time

[dusky burrow]

also who could have thought

[azure walrus]

did they fix the bug where if bulgaria does imro and then you conquer the land where the imro is

and then crush them

you get cores

even if you didnt originally

[plain isle]

bc he could forsee the benelux breakthrough

[azure walrus]

excuse me what

isnt there supposed to be the cc clique

[dusky burrow]

I'll check right now

also the soviets are dunces

Out of all those countries only 5 of them exist

[azure walrus]

absolute paradox

[west owl]

I’m so screwed, I declared war on Greece, won, however I’m at war with Hungary and have lost 500k men

[sharp sierra]

as who

[dusky burrow]

oh btw seems like we do get cores here

lovely

[cedar kite]

yeah every country can core those 3 states

[opaque zinc]

how do i make my map look like this

i see it in videos and it looks nice

is it a mod or is it like something i have to do in settings

ok so its fps map nvm

[west owl]

Italy

[late star]

Is it just me or did yall also say “The Fires Rise” instead of “The Fire Rises”

[terse skiff]

tfw you sink more german convoys than uk does, lend lease to uk, and achieve a 22:1 kd ratio against the axis as stalin. I guess he truly is a brilliant commander

[opal nymph]

It is the fire rises

[late star]

I know, but multiple countries should mean multiple Fires

[opal nymph]

The fire represents something

Ans it continues to grow

Therefore rises

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[opal nymph]

Some movement, chaos, whatever that schizo mod says

Hi

[late star]

Hi

[cedar lance]

wassup yalls

[random socket]

Hi mark

[cedar lance]

hello

its marko or mrm

[late star]

I’m not deining that, it’s just a case of the Mandela Effect

[green lodge]

Chat

If i attack Iran as Afghanistan, they call in the allies 🥀

What do i do

[heady ether]

Lore accurate United States

[magic aspen]

I hate peru

this has been like this for a year

Germany and Italy are collapsing but no Germany needs to hold Peru for some reason

and they have been last standing constantly for a year

because the AI doesn't have to follow the rules

[opal nymph]

Why dont you fallback and then encircle and destroy their units

Break their entrenchment

[magic aspen]

?

[opal nymph]

Fallback to your supply hubs, and they will take the empty land.

They will no longer be entrenched and have less supply, meaning you can break them more easily

[magic aspen]

how do I encircle them more than I have already

what? they just sit there and get more entrenched

[opal nymph]

Or keep bashing both tiles until they break

Do you understand what falling back means

[magic aspen]

they don't follow

[opal nymph]

Sometimes to win is to go backwards

[magic aspen]

they just sit

[opal nymph]

You already tried?

[magic aspen]

I tried already

[opal nymph]

Well, guess you CAS them to death

[heady ether]

Make sure you also have air support if you don't already. From what it looks like in the screenshot you showed they have no air bases, so you don't have to worry about the Luftwaffe.

[opal nymph]

One strategy is to try and reinforce meme

[magic aspen]

I have full green

[opal nymph]

Attack from just 1 tile and see if you can break the enemy before they can reinforce

You need really good divisions to do this

[magic aspen]

yeah I don't have that

[cedar lance]

should i add a new SP called Fleet carrier?

[opal nymph]

Dont attack from the north, attack from the south first

[magic aspen]

I don't understand how to make good divisions so I just use 18 wide with support arty and aa

[opal nymph]

South has supply

If you attack with supplied units first, they will be the ones in combat

[magic aspen]

I do appreciate the help but I'd also like to just point out this is an incredibly stupid problem

I have them 10 to 1 with basically the same divisions

but they just magically live because reasons

[opal nymph]

You know combat width right

[magic aspen]

yes

[opal nymph]

So that means number advantage doesn't matter unless you reinforce faster

[magic aspen]

which is my point

it's a dumbass mechanic

[opal nymph]

Reinforce rate?

You will enjoy reinforce rate and reinforce memes

Also you are attacking mountains and for some tiles also across a river

[magic aspen]

if I have 100 divisions attacking I'm not gonna tell 90% of them to wait

[opal nymph]

You got a room that fits 10 people

[magic aspen]

yeah and the game gives me a massively debilitating debuff that the enemy gets to conveniently ignore

[opal nymph]

You are trying to cram a hundred and say fight effectively

You arent going to do that

The enemy is on defensive terrain with entrenchment

They are able to reinforce into losing battles

You knock a division, another replaces it

Same applies for you

When one of your divisions is exhausted, another replaces it

[magic aspen]

if I go to a shooting range and tell everyone to shoot the same target, it doesn't matter how many people I have because they're not trying to fit through a door they're trying to shoot a stupid target

[cedar lance]

answer

[opal nymph]

You are telling 100k guys to fit in 1 acre

[opal nymph]

Do what you want

Idk what an sp is

Singleplayer?

[magic aspen]

I'm telling them to shoot 1 acre

[opal nymph]

They cant all fit

[magic aspen]

their bullets can

[cedar lance]

sp is and means special project

[opal nymph]

They already exist

[cedar lance]

wdym

[opal nymph]

Fleet carriers already exist

[cedar lance]

where

[opal nymph]

Research 1944 carriers

And then the special project appears

[opal nymph]

They cant fire their bullets

Because the frontline was already packed

[cedar lance]

OH alr thx

[opal nymph]

They cant fire artillery, because the spot is already occupied with another set of artillery

[magic aspen]

whatever we can argue about this all night, we just disagree

I just think it's a dumb mechanic, you understand it better than I do and you disagree, we can leave it at that

[opal nymph]

Okay

[magic aspen]

thank you for your help though

[opal nymph]

In either case your options are CAS them to death and continuous attack until they hopefully break

Or kill faction leader and end the war

[heady ether]

Just keep attacking the one tile you were winning in, they're bound to retreat eventually.

[magic aspen]

they don't

[opal nymph]

It might honestly be better to kill off the Axis in Europe and end the war lol

[magic aspen]

every unit that retreats is able to fully recover and join back in before I can outpace them

I really don't want to do that

it was kind of the whole idea of this playthrough not to leave the continent

the only reason I'm at war with Germany is because Peru joined the axis when I peacefully requested they no longer exist

I think I just need to log off and come back to this tomorrow, I've had a really rough night and it's clearly getting to me

[heady ether]

I understand, HOI4 can be infuriating sometimes.

[magic aspen]

I'm also just not very good at it and I tend to get frustrated with the number of tiny mechanics with a huge impact on the game

becuase normally I'm very quick to pick up even complicated games but this one I just can't understand

[terse skiff]

consult wiki and search for guides if you need to

but unfortunately big hoi4 ytbers can only carry you that far since they don't try to min-max

[tame copper]

I think here I will get an answer faster than the two server

So

How do I make the mod run better on a potato computer without impeding gameplay

[prisma saddle]

yo

best way to kill uk using paratroopers as germany?

like the best side is scotland?

[green lodge]

How do i go fast ?

Like don't SPGs give 30% more speed ??

[prisma saddle]

upgrade the engine

are you using medium?

[left sigil]

why does it say this when i have ships in the region

[green lodge]

It's only 10.4km/h 🥀

It's only 10.4km/h 🥀

[prisma saddle]

"only"

[terse skiff]

tbh speed over 6 is not needed given how supply works

[slim nexus]

Ok. But 7 is lucky number

[opaque zinc]

I have no manpower, I’m communist Estonia and if I can just get my war goal on Lithuania down I can core the Baltics

[green lodge]

Chat

[static creek]

whats the ratio of people playing historic to non historic?

[green lodge]

Prolly

[green lodge]

Uh non historical is more fun

I got absolutely railed playing as Afghanistan on Historical

[drifting grove]

why does this server have tags for hoi3 and DH? i dont think ive ever seen anyone say they want to play hoi3 here

[inland falcon]

separate hoi3 and darkest hour servers would probably have a total of 3 people between them, it just kinda works to have them be apart of this

[lapis prairie]

Is this recoverable

most of europe is taken over

[cedar lance]

hello all yalls wassup

[viscid swift]

guys how many men do i need for the maginot to hold?

and to cap the reich

and to hold south

😭

[viscid swift]

what in the father son and holy spirit is that planning

[lapis prairie]

Ai

[viscid swift]

thank god

and also which side are u on?

[lapis prairie]

Im the sultanate

Im sided with germany

[viscid swift]

aka the??

okay

[viscid swift]

so i think personally

there could be hope

but i think its a disaster save

[lapis prairie]

I would have helped in europe its just i had to take out china

[viscid swift]

why dont u build anything?

what do u produce

[viscid swift]

u should have a bigger army i think cuz u have 25 million manpower 😭

[lapis prairie]

issues

alot of them

[viscid swift]

template?

[void eagle]

so good

my empire

[lapis prairie]

Im gonna attempt to send my elephants to europe

[void eagle]

my focus tree generic focus tree extended

[tawdry nebula]

Good morning guys.

[viral matrix]

must've been the wind

[lapis prairie]

germany capitulated

[fickle thicket]

yes

[slow hazel]

Guys can anyone teach me how to play(i got the basics down i just dont know how to invade other countries)

[snow rain]

Geez, import coal already

[snow rain]

To hold maginot against ai :
16w, support arty and aa

In number of divs from metz to swiss border :
3, 4, 2, 4, 2, 1, 1

[dusky burrow]

poverty gaming moment (perhaps early sudeten conflict?)
but seriously most of the time I just put a 24 division army there

and probably the rest of my army too since i may push there

but you can put it on the dutch or czech border as well

[digital aurora]

Would it be better to name Soviet Republics SSR's or Use the Full, Soviet Socialist Republic suffix

[tawdry nebula]

For what?

[inland falcon]

Full

Larp harder

[pseudo raven]

Ig full sounds cooler

[digital aurora]

Full it Shall be

[inland falcon]

full chinese territorial integrity

[pseudo raven]

Next step uniting Asia?

[inland falcon]

Great things are coming

[slim nexus]

Kaiserredux?

[viral matrix]

yes

[viral matrix]

10 years straight

[worn coral]

guys

molotov line or stalin line?

which one is better

[eternal palm]

Depends, are you gonna hold or push?

[worn coral]

hold

[inland falcon]

got a little bored

[eternal palm]

Then Stalin

[worn coral]

behind rivers

[eternal palm]

💀

Why would you do this

[inland falcon]

cause i can

[rare sand]

what's a good light tank division template for early game? no dlcs

[worn coral]

this is the line i want to hold

[eternal palm]

Why is Latvia alive

[worn coral]

ill try to hold the front but im pretty sure i wont be able so im relying on the back

[eternal palm]

U should've annexed them a year ago

[worn coral]

i released as puppets to make the front smaller

[eternal palm]

That's....

So dumb

[worn coral]

why

[eternal palm]

The north is the least likely to fall and you're missing out on a good 30 civs

[fickle stag]

中国万岁!!

[worn coral]

ok ill call them in

[eternal palm]

I mean you probably didn't do collabs on them anyhow

[eternal palm]

No don't

It's too late

Just don't release the baltic like ever

[worn coral]

stalin or molotov tho

[eternal palm]

I said Stalin

[inland falcon]

tbh its entirely possible to just hold the germans at the border and do no line

[eternal palm]

That's molotov

But ye

[inland falcon]

but if you're planning to be pushed back to the river lines do whichever one puts forts there

[eternal palm]

It's what I recommend

[inland falcon]

the germans suck at pushing tho, molotov would be better

[eternal palm]

Depends on how good you are at the game lol

[eternal palm]

175 factories in 1940 😭

Just restart atp

You're cooked

[worn coral]

man

ill figure it out

[eternal palm]

Sure

[worn coral]

im not a pro

[eternal palm]

That word genuinely makes me aggressive

[worn coral]

dude ur annoying

[eternal palm]

That's funny

Ragebait successful, disengage

[viscid swift]

at least u dont play france as i do right now...

i despise this country

i hate playing it

its so annoying

im trying to get the occupy moscow achievement

[worn coral]

dude what

the war started in august 40???

[eternal palm]

That's simple. Napoleon is pretty powerful

[opaque zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241890149793665076/1272023971033776230/attachment.gif

[ripe slate]

@slim nexus#server-rules

[slim nexus]

Ok

[cold mist]

why does mussolini look so young ingame compared to irl

[eternal palm]

Me when portraits are inaccurate 🤯

I mean, without hair it's hard to tell

Maybe he had a good skincare routine

[covert bear]

hello again do i justify when they have the gaurentee or when its removed or does it not make a difference?

[eternal palm]

Hmm, good question. Maybe do it when they have it, and when it gets removed, immediately declare

[covert bear]

ok do you think it makes a difference

[eternal palm]

Difference in what

[covert bear]

if they get the gaurentee

[eternal palm]

What?

If they already have it, it gets removed and you declare instantly, they wont

[covert bear]

ok sir tanks

[unique cliff]

i hate this new naval supremacy thing, i cant invade iceland as denmark with my starting navy

[eternal palm]

U can?

[snow rain]

I'm cretain you can

[green lodge]

Guys 🥀

[unique cliff]

its stuck at 37, not growing

[snow rain]

you have capital ships and a sizable navy
plus you have the faroes islands

[snow rain]

screens on patrol in the zone, capitals on strike force

[unique cliff]

my subs can reach it, but not the two bigger ships

[green lodge]

What is in your opinion best Afghanistani path 🥀
The fascist one felt like a snooze

[snow rain]

they can, make the faroes as their home base

[unique cliff]

THATS what i missed

thanks

[green lodge]

Afghanistan
What best emir to crown

Fuc it we Sikiang

[shut sigil]

Does this general need anything else? 🤔 Kinda new to the game so idk what's good and bad so if I messed smth up please understand idrk what I am doing

[snow rain]

he's very good
you'd basically need a forest trait but it's fine, grind isn't required in SP anyway

you can make hiim a field marshal and give him the trait that gives +1 atk pip if you feel like you're done grinding (you can still use him as a general)

[shut sigil]

Alrighty man thanks ❤️

[snow rain]

Good thing you grinded cav leader to get the combined arm expert too

[eternal palm]

0/10 not enough terrain traits

[shut sigil]

Yeah I've noticed Germany doesn't get one which looks weird

[eternal palm]

Wdym u didn't get swamp rat in Poland

[shut sigil]

The hell is that? I don't remember seeing that in the overview thing

[shut sigil]

Considering how they are all about speed

[eternal palm]

Wait ur being fr

[snow rain]

it's the swamp troll trait, it's basically useless and awful to grind (attrition + sickness in swamp)

[eternal palm]

I'm like 90% sure you're trolling but alr

[shut sigil]

I am not

I didn't even know there are swamps :-:

The damm marshes is the closest thing I knew hoi4 had to the worst Minecraft biome lol

[inland falcon]

I love 70 days for two industry research bonuses god yes please more of that

[green lodge]

How did you get these many traits

Weren't they capped at 5 🥀

[shut sigil]

Btw

In this case

[unique cliff]

i take it back, still cant get 375 supremacy

[shut sigil]

What do you exactly mean by trolling?

[green lodge]

Trying to act stupid I think

[eternal palm]

Yea man whatever

[shut sigil]

The field marshal ones are capped at that I think I ain't really sure (not the overall traits but like logistics wizard breakthrough one and the rest field marshal exclusive ones)...could be wrong though

[shut sigil]

Okay?

[shut sigil]

Why would one do that though?

[inland falcon]

It's funny

I <3 civ greeding until 1941

[coral gorge]

makes sense

Countries with anybody starting with that trait are the weird ones

[shut sigil]

How come? Aren't they knows for mobile warfare

Yk the thing about motorized/mech and tanks?

[eternal palm]

No Bröther dont! it vill corrupt Yu! Dont play zhis!

[austere furnace]

how long does a game from 1939-1945 take

[coral gorge]

nah actual combined arms by 1936 was a very recent concept

Largely untested

[shut sigil]

Oh ok then it kinda makes sense but still weird to me lol and it will stay that way

[heavy vigil]

japanese invasion of manchuria only no?

and even they didnt really pick up on it

[coral gorge]

Japanese invasion of Manchuria was more a product of their own military superiority and the haste induced by the army bypassing the government in the first place

[heavy vigil]

no like its the first place they used combined arms

in the world afaik

in 1922?

[coral gorge]

Modern combined arms were seen since WW1 already, they just weren’t mechanized

Japanese invasion of Manchuria and their use of armored trains was closer, but they couldn’t have been able to draw any lesson from that

Not that of a mechanical force as seen in Europe at least

Japan never achieved the same level of integration or coordination between different branches of the armed forces

[tawdry nebula]

What is your opinion guys of the Flakpanzer 341 "Coelian"?

[manic iris]

someone help me from the love of good im so cooekd

[tawdry nebula]

What happened?

[manic iris]

this happend

i left allies

and declared war on them

now this

i need assitance

🙏

[tawdry nebula]

Uh, that's not good.

[manic iris]

yes, its not.

i have 3 nukes tho

what do i do

[tawdry nebula]

Try to push out in Italy and the other enemy.

[manic iris]

how do i launch my 3 nukes

[tawdry nebula]

Do you have the DLC Götterdämmerung?

[manic iris]

i have no dlc

HOW DO I INVADE UK THERS A GAZILLION MINES ARROUND IT

[tawdry nebula]

Naval supremacy and use the marines.

Also I suggest to wait for sale and buy a dlc.

[manic iris]

What navy

😭

it deleted it

can i do this whout navy

how do i even make more

[tawdry nebula]

No you can't.

Well you should restart at this point.

[manic iris]

IMA NUKE LONDON

LETS PRAY

[meager nest]

the soviets got violated 😭

[manic iris]

I LEGIT TOOK USA, SOVIETS MYSELF, and they took all the land

look at ts

can i somehow remove confernces

[tawdry nebula]

I don't think you can removed the conferences.

[manic iris]

this is so unfair

[tawdry nebula]

But yeah the Navy is important to have in game at last for me and my opinion.

[meager nest]

how did UK go imperial path but india is independent 😭

you should try the player-run peace conferences mod

[manic iris]

I DONT KNOW

[meager nest]

andwhat are those austria/poland/italy/turkey borders 😭

why is green poland in 2 pieces

why does turkey just exist in sugla or whatever its called

[manic iris]

I TOOK EVERYONE

ANDD THEY TOOK MY LAND

AND I GOT MAD

[meager nest]

why does italy own kyrgyzstan

[meager nest]

why does italy have enclaves there and in kiev

[manic iris]

I took soviets and they came sweeping and took in conference

this is coked

[snow rain]

stop that battleplan already*

[meager nest]

this is why i dont play hoi4 🙏

[snow rain]

don't you see the red bubbles ?

[manic iris]

please

give

ideas

i tried 5 plans

[snow rain]

first idea

[manic iris]

nothing is WORKING

[viscid swift]

mein gott what is that battle plan

[snow rain]

no battleplan

[viscid swift]

show me the guns

[snow rain]

especially when you're not winning it

[manic iris]

how i make a battleplan

[viscid swift]

click I

[snow rain]

then, your divs need to be full strenght

[manic iris]

where

[viscid swift]

for the love of god

click

I

and show it

[snow rain]

that's what you're using RIGHT NOW

[manic iris]

alright

but i have a battleplan

[snow rain]

STOP IT

like what?

[viscid swift]

my god

how

[manic iris]

wtf i swear i had 300k infantry

IWTF

[snow rain]

That's the upmost priority

[manic iris]

WTF

[viscid swift]

how did u get to a point where u have -20k artillery and -100k infantry guns

for the love of father son and the holy spirit

[manic iris]

this was a couple hours ago

wtf

[snow rain]

When you start a big battleplan and see red bubbles everywhere STOP IT
you don't keep slamming your head on a wall to break it when it didn't work the first two times and there is blood on the door don't you ? That's basically the same thing

and I expressely told you that a day ago

[manic iris]

i did

that

multiple times

im very confused right now

[viscid swift]

just hold until u have guns

[snow rain]

you DIDN'T

[viscid swift]

please

[manic iris]

erm

WHAT HAPPEND WTF

[snow rain]

like, you just sent a screenshot of 2 massive battleplans going nowhere with red bubbles everywhere

[viscid swift]

am i having a heart attack

[snow rain]

AND IT'S STILL GOING

[manic iris]

wait is it cus i changed economy

i had a civ ecoomny and it was amazing

[snow rain]

Stop. The. Attacks

[viscid swift]

no mate

[snow rain]

simple as

[tawdry nebula]

I would suggest to maybe restart a new run.

[manic iris]

i did

no

[snow rain]

if you can't do that, I'm not even gonna bother

[viscid swift]

yeah

[manic iris]

I DID

LIKE

WHATS ur idea

[snow rain]

stop lying

[viscid swift]

ima tell u, stop recruiting new divisions and delete half of your army thats not needed

[snow rain]

I can see the arrows

[viscid swift]

and hold on mountains or rivers

[manic iris]

iim paused

[viscid swift]

please

[snow rain]

I can see the animatipn

[tawdry nebula]

You need to stop all the attacks.

They need to be at 0. @manic iris