hoi4-general

[knotty vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-thousand-yard-stare-stare-tiktok-wtf-gif-12206044702998985154

[eternal palm]

Get planning too

[rare sand]

so at what point does usa become a pain to deal with and when should I invade them?

[coral gorge]

nah at this point they won't be able to do anything

[eternal palm]

Asap

[coral gorge]

might as well just restart

[azure palm]

I just learned that by requesting expeditionary units from puppets you lose faction influence. Great. Just great.

[eternal palm]

Yea also dont do that lol

Oh wait it happens automatically

COOL FEATURE PARADOX

THANKS

[atomic wolf]

does anyone have a solution for supplies

[pseudo raven]

git gud

[atomic wolf]

i built railways and supplies hubs yet it doesn't do anything

[pseudo raven]

no trains?

[atomic wolf]

lemme check

[azure palm]

connect them to your capital

[knotty vortex]

i give up bro

[azure palm]

why?

[knotty vortex]

cant evne beat latvia

might be hoi4s worst player

[azure palm]

as which nation? @knotty vortex

[pseudo raven]

u can check it here

[knotty vortex]

lithuania

i just cant do it

i can never get buffs to go in my favour

i just lose every fight

[azure palm]

its kinda fine

they have more troops than you at the start of the game

[knotty vortex]

yeah but i still shouldnt be losing

its ridiculous

6 v 2 and im losing

[azure palm]

sorry I cant help you with that

[coral gorge]

[azure palm]

but the AI can also be shit

[coral gorge]

is ok

just restart

[knotty vortex]

i always restart

i did 6 hours of restarts with czech the other day

it just drains the fun

[azure palm]

the stresa front never beats the little entente. Its weird.

[leaden oyster]

@manic iris u can win civil war very easily

Its a cheese

[azure palm]

the troop conversion?

[leaden oyster]

ye

I always do it

It saves a month or 2

[azure palm]

same

I dont see why you shouldnt

[leaden oyster]

Ye

[azure palm]

you can also early attack the netherlands

[leaden oyster]

I justify early yeah

And then bait belgium to go to war with me by releasing the colonies u get

To take the war goal with switzerland instead

Cuz it takes 500 days without

Which is insane

But yeah to cheese civil war take an army focus as your very first focus

Then create 2 Templates

[azure palm]

1 inf and 1 art

[leaden oyster]

One is only one artillery

The other is 1 inf

U wait conver all to one artillery

[quasi osprey]

look how much the world loves my country

[azure palm]

just look up germany civil war guide

[leaden oyster]

wait no you force deploy 200 1 inf divisions

And then turn them to 1 artillery divions

Xeah i told him

[azure palm]

ignoring that, why dont you have your terretory?

[quasi osprey]

wdym

[leaden oyster]

Every civil war guide does this stretgy

Just go and look it up in youtube

[quasi osprey]

are u talking about the germany land

[azure palm]

yes

[pseudo raven]

i love world uniting in destroying green poland

[quasi osprey]

well I am not even germany

its my occupation zone

[azure palm]

...

what

oh wait I didnt see the rest of argentina

but why

[knotty vortex]

whats a good overall infantry template

cause people say theyre good

so what am i doing wrong

[azure palm]

and why is there a 4th reich

[quasi osprey]

oh well idk how it even survived

[quasi osprey]

it lost about 3 wars

and is still alive

[coral gorge]

I don't know why somebody would tell you that a template with only engineer as support company was a good template

[azure palm]

they even have the funny mustache man as leader...

[quasi osprey]

he survived but idk why

[void pumice]

Does anyone here know how the TNO economy works?

[steel zephyr]

polish invasion soon 🤫

[quasi osprey]

this is the fourth reich at its biggest now its just a minor nation

this is the whole german army rn

[knotty vortex]

this is what happens when you have alot of mils but no research

also, do the germans declare on me as polish litho commonwealth

[quasi osprey]

bruh

[quasi osprey]

democracy and peace obviously

[heavy vigil]

10 on support? damn

thats a lot

[knotty vortex]

i have nothing else to put them on lol

[atomic wolf]

r u in historical

[knotty vortex]

yeah

theyre declaring

[eternal palm]

More guns?

You can never have too many guns

[atomic wolf]

good luck

[eternal palm]

Also why 5 on arty and maybe also make AA?
you wont have an airforce

[steel zephyr]

polandih 🥹

[eternal palm]

For Kattowitz right?

Cuz Danzig should be disabled

[heavy vigil]

taking 2 from arty 5 from support and going 7 AA isnt bad yeah

[knotty vortex]

i mean idk theyre just declaring

i got the notification

[knotty vortex]

because no research

[heavy vigil]

over memel

[knotty vortex]

will they attack through slovakia?

[eternal palm]

Its 39????

[heavy vigil]

estonia starts with AA tech actually

[eternal palm]

Probably memel

[heavy vigil]

not lit but fun fact

[eternal palm]

just accept

[knotty vortex]

yeah it was memel

[eternal palm]

Or yk fight ger

[knotty vortex]

we at war now lol

[eternal palm]

And kill them

oh lmao

[knotty vortex]

im gonna get smashed but

[eternal palm]

ye just kill germany

[knotty vortex]

its fine ill start over

cause i kinda know what to do now

[knotty vortex]

i dont get it

well that was fun

[steel zephyr]

only 33 divs 😨

[knotty vortex]

i seriously gotta get better lol

yep

[eternal palm]

....

I got nothing.

[knotty vortex]

i have nothiiiiing

[eternal palm]

Now I suddenly am not surprised why u fail all the time

[atomic wolf]

come on bro ur troops were well supplied and were organized how did u mess up

[eternal palm]

No divs, no frontlines, no production

in 39

[knotty vortex]

bro it took them approx 4 days to get in

[eternal palm]

You can annex pland in 38

[knotty vortex]

lol

[eternal palm]

Then build mils and shit out units

[knotty vortex]

dude chill

i dont have thousands of hours

[atomic wolf]

u always put ur troops at the border

[eternal palm]

Neither am I saying you need it

[heavy vigil]

he somehow never gets anything out

idk what he does

i cant see the saves

[eternal palm]

But like, you keep saying you suck, then I try to tell you what you can do and you deflect with "I'm good enough"

Which misses the entire point of what I am trying to say

[quasi osprey]

what did poor sweden do

[knotty vortex]

what else do i do

[atomic wolf]

u either hold the line or do offensive

[eternal palm]

I'll say it again: If you cant comprehend what I'm saying that is not my problem

[steel zephyr]

if the poles take this gap im done for

[atomic wolf]

right click or smth have a plan

[knotty vortex]

i had them all on a frontline so they shouldve held the line?

[knotty vortex]

i do what you guys tell me to do ;-;

[quasi osprey]

Why do I have the urge to release and play as prussia

[atomic wolf]

well if it was 39 u should of expected Germany

[heavy vigil]

thats what i mean idk what happens in your runs

[atomic wolf]

why did u have half ur troops in the baltics

[quasi osprey]

how is this a thing its almost too small to see

[knotty vortex]

cause germany have provinces north of poland?

[knotty vortex]

maybe i just suck

[heavy vigil]

its fine thats common

[atomic wolf]

ur troops were in estonia not east prussia

[heavy vigil]

a lot of it is interpretation/being able to do things on your own

[knotty vortex]

i just cannot beat the germans

theyre genuinely my worst nightmare

ive only done it once as the UK

actually twice as European President as netherlands

[heavy vigil]

theyre the best vanilla ai

[knotty vortex]

yeah and it sucks

cause they ruin everything

[heavy vigil]

you dont have to play hist ai

[knotty vortex]

but i wanna actually be good at the game before i do that

otherwise ill just do even worse cause i dont know the situations in non hist

[heavy vigil]

yeah but its peak

sometimes you get the unfair faction on your side

usually not

[knotty vortex]

not when you cant beat historical ai

[heavy vigil]

hist is weird

you can optimize better

and ai just isnt optimized to play meta hist

theres a lot less to optimize in ahist its just vibes and predictions

[knotty vortex]

i just wanna beat germany as a minor on historical one time

then i might just never touch the game again

[heavy vigil]

sisyphus

[knotty vortex]

i am not rolling the rock up the mountain

[dire snow]

Huh?

[dire snow]

What are you on about

[knotty vortex]

sisyphus

what do i do with these random units

from poland

[heavy vigil]

delete or convert

standardize

[knotty vortex]

okay

i need an inf unit design

something strong

[heavy vigil]

designs hardly matter

its about how much stuff you have out mostly

doctrines done etc

[lapis epoch]

пароль от пендоского логова 6767

[heavy vigil]

english only please :) #server-rules

[lapis epoch]

yes yes i understand

[steel zephyr]

we are so back

[knotty vortex]

whats good for lithuania

[eternal palm]

Large unit tactics, mobile recon, armored spearhead, grand assault

[heavy vigil]

lithuania really sucks now imo

[eternal palm]

Does it?

It still has good buffs

[heavy vigil]

increased doctrine costs

when you need to rush it as minor nations now to have a decent chance

[knotty vortex]

agrarian society

wait so what do i get

[knotty vortex]

ill go with these

so how do i prepare for germany now

this is production

[eternal palm]

it had that before, its not a big ask to get rid of it

[eternal palm]

More units

More units

More units

[knotty vortex]

of what though?

[eternal palm]

u 45k guns in stock

Infantry?

What else

[knotty vortex]

this is what i have

i need support

[eternal palm]

Yea make that

[knotty vortex]

what support units

[eternal palm]

Engineer AA, artillery

[knotty vortex]

okay

[knotty vortex]

i have lots of time

munich conference hasnt even happened yet

[steel zephyr]

w#

[heavy vigil]

he doesnt look at his stockpiles

[shy bloom]

Chef kiss

[heavy vigil]

idk why

you usually have so much spare stuff to deploy

or at least something

[pseudo raven]

gg to France

[knotty vortex]

will this do against the germans?

i have heavy mg in research rn

[eternal palm]

I noticed 🤦‍♂️

Yea cant help a dude thats borderline illiterate

[steel zephyr]

belarus encirclment had to atleast half their army

[knotty vortex]

theres no need to be rude lol

[eternal palm]

I'm not being rude

Thats genuinely what its like talking to you

[heavy vigil]

it will barely win vs the bf 109 starting plane

[knotty vortex]

cant make troops with just guns if i dont have any artillery or anti air in stock

[eternal palm]

I repeated what I said about 3 times now

[heavy vigil]

you dont have alu or rubber tho

so you dont make planes

[eternal palm]

And you still dont get it, nor acknowledged that I said anything

[azure walrus]

nice

[heavy vigil]

you can

its better than not having units

[steel zephyr]

so uh a polish civil war happened 😢

didnt get to encircle them by brest

[knotty vortex]

arent they like extremely debuffed if they dont have proper equipment

[knotty vortex]

because youre so rude about everything. ruins the community if youre like that to everybody

[eternal palm]

🤦‍♂️

[opal nymph]

What did I just join into

[eternal palm]

I'm trying to help a guy

[opal nymph]

How is Creep ruining everything, which is have never seen him do before

[heavy vigil]

you get the stats from the equipment in the unit

always

[eternal palm]

And get called rude again

[eternal palm]

I get called rude occasionally

[spiral breach]

🙏

[heavy vigil]

you can technically have super mega stat units if they have infinite equipment

[knotty vortex]

so theyre not debuffed for not having aa or art?

[heavy vigil]

well you wont have AA stats

[opal nymph]

Is this the case of Meta Player's Fallacy?

[heavy vigil]

or the stats the artillery gives

[steel zephyr]

and i CANT TAKE ANYTHING

[opal nymph]

Are you telling them the meta without explaining how it works?

[heavy vigil]

but they will be units in the field

[knotty vortex]

okay right i thought it meant they got debuffed if they didnt have them

[heavy vigil]

which beats not having units in the field

[knotty vortex]

okay thank you

[opal nymph]

You couldn't solo the civil war?

[steel zephyr]

managed to get gdansk anda thats it

[heavy vigil]

its like

what wars have you fought in game

[steel zephyr]

the communists joined our faction

[heavy vigil]

so i can make a reference

[knotty vortex]

ive fought quite a few

i did allies vs axis as uk

allies vs axis as germany

[heavy vigil]

okay did you d day?

[knotty vortex]

i did south american domination as facist argentina

[knotty vortex]

i did as axis yeah

[heavy vigil]

this is prob the best example

when fighting like brazil youre either fighting a few or no units

right

and its significantly harder if theres more units there, even if theyre bad

they hinder your speed

youre on the defending side here, if you have weapons spare

its probably best to deploy it so you at least have something out

especially if you dont fill combat width

[knotty vortex]

i hated brazil

honestly the units werent the problem

it was the amazon

im making another 30 units

theyre only missing AA

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[lapis epoch]

guys why playes from pirat hoi4?

[steel zephyr]

bruh just as i was gonna declare

[knotty vortex]

should i be worried about the orange zones

[heavy vigil]

assuming there were units in the amazon

the amazon isnt a challenge if theres no units

[knotty vortex]

do i hand over memel

[knotty vortex]

yeah there was

[uncut coyote]

im genuinely confused on what happened.

i was playing as india, got my freedom from the british, beat germany and its allies. Then you can see that in europe, the soviet union started attacking poland and then me. Soon after i got a popup trying to prevent a civil war and release pakistan and yemen's territories, i accepted cuz i was already spread a bit thin, now ive got no country. cant play anymore.

[knotty vortex]

do i start the war now

or do i wait

[heavy vigil]

you can wait as long as you desire

[knotty vortex]

is memel that important

im still training another 30 divs

[heavy vigil]

no but you might get bored and ending the game now would be faster

[uncut coyote]

its really just access for another naval base

[steel zephyr]

latvians in prague

[knotty vortex]

okay war time

what should my strat be

[heavy vigil]

win

probably kill east prussia

[knotty vortex]

i like this advice

[knotty vortex]

yeah i really gotta do that

should i early deploy?

theyll train throught the war right?

[uncut pollen]

English only

[ripe slate]

@lapis epochEnglish only please, though that is a very weird vid

[ripe slate]

Damn, beat me to it

[uncut coyote]

haha, gotta be quicker than that

[pseudo raven]

XDDDDDD

[knotty vortex]

anybody able to tell me if this is worth doing?

or is deploying early a bad idea

[uncut coyote]

look and see how supplied the divisions are first

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-gun-shooting-smoke-gif-5591465

[uncut coyote]

and jsut train them in the armies

[azure walrus]

Seeing the rise of communism and radical ideas throughout Europe, manifesting in communist regimes rising in Germany, Poland, and Lithuania, as well as the Blackshirts organizing in Britain, the military of Latvia has taken direct control of the Riga government to prevent such events from occurring. We shall fortify our newly-independent state against foreign occupation, perhaps even seeking cooperation with the Estonian government on the basis of Baltic unity.

[pseudo raven]

i love understanding dose random emmes

[uncut pollen]

No just no

[dawn geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1413892150734880809/1434168682975727787/tenor_2.gif

[pseudo raven]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1011753802266837098/1231128090109808662/attachment.gif

[unique comet]

I have a thing

[azure walrus]

is ts tuff

[uncut coyote]

shoulda seen the encirclement i did on germany about an hour ago, they lost 40 divs

[unique comet]

Go to the page of death or dishonor dlc and look at the pictures

[pseudo raven]

i am reading his profile and i have several bad thoughts abt him

[unique comet]

It's pissing me of

[ripe slate]

@lapis epochGo read the #server-rules

[dawn geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1156134212982808588/1172993932465029201/attachment.gif

[knotty vortex]

bruhhhh

they just breakthrough all the time

[uncut pollen]

Dm's

@ripe slate a timeout?

[uncut coyote]

bro....

[knotty vortex]

I FORGOT ABOUT SLOVAKIA

GOD DAMN IT

I HATE THIS GAME

[uncut pollen]

Is this server getting a raid or what?

[uncut coyote]

im genuinely confused on what happened.

i was playing as india, got my freedom from the british, beat germany and its allies. Then you can see that in europe, the soviet union started attacking poland and then me. Soon after i got a popup trying to prevent a civil war and release pakistan and yemen's territories, i accepted cuz i was already spread a bit thin, now ive got no country. cant play anymore.

[knotty vortex]

i dont even have the slightest clue on how to beat germany anymore

ruined my day

got back from work and thought this would be fun

[pseudo raven]

done u have translation of this cringe profile

[uncut pollen]

I have expected worse

[pseudo raven]

what u were expecting from a kid glazing comunism while having rasputin on profile picture

[steel zephyr]

encircled about 100 danubian federation troops in czechia, moving back up to deal with denmark

latvia carrying germany

[uncut pollen]

Not much

[opal nymph]

Glazing communism

Rasputin profile pic

Didn't expect that combination before

[steel zephyr]

kiel reached

[uncut coyote]

that guy drinks too much vodka lol

[pseudo raven]

basical combo for redditers

[azure walrus]

if estonia accepts the baltic entente

do i gain the power to make factions in general

even after I abandon the entente

[uncut coyote]

no only certain focuses and nations can do it

[azure walrus]

ah

[pseudo raven]

if u don't have alternatives

u can try out anyways

[azure walrus]

alright

[steel zephyr]

there goes the danish

[azure walrus]

i dont get wargoals on estonia anyways

might as well have an ally

but otto is reforming aus-hun and portugal is forming portugal+brazil so

id rather be in one of those faxctions

*factions

[azure walrus]

wym

does america have a nonaligned path

[steel zephyr]

can't you see that i encircled most of the army

[azure walrus]

arent those non-danish divs

[steel zephyr]

total latvia win!!

[steel zephyr]

mostly danish, here's whats left

[azure walrus]

total latvia loss

if only lithuania had gone monarchist and estonia gone independent communist

[opal nymph]

Confederates, sort of

They usually just flip fascist

[azure walrus]

ah

[opal nymph]

Imo, Confederates should be non aligned and not fascist

[azure walrus]

agree

[opal nymph]

And have some American empire path as the fascist one

[ripe slate]

Unrealistic, Denmark wouldve capitulated already

[azure walrus]

maybe they refused the surrender

[steel zephyr]

danes were in berlin and hamburg before i joined in 🤤

[azure walrus]

baltic-belarus ssr right?

[steel zephyr]

used to be, now im this (independant, not puppet)

[azure walrus]

ah

did you invite the soviets or enter opposition

also you should try to get the "it has my name on it" achievement

control the entire coastline of the baltic sea as lithuania, latvia, or estonia

is sweden in ur faction

[steel zephyr]

invite soviets

[azure walrus]

ah

[steel zephyr]

about to assist soviets in finland now

destroyed danubian and denmark so far in this war

[azure walrus]

naval invade so the territory goes to you 👍

maybe go for that achievement

[steel zephyr]

the latvians are coming 🤤

[ripe slate]

😨 people using nightcycle

[opal nymph]

You turn it off by playing 5 speed and never pausing

[steel zephyr]

ok i think i end my 8th latvia game here

was fun but poland stole my belarus by having a communist civil war in the middle of me destroying poland

[azure walrus]

alright

you gonna play a 9th

?

if yes

[steel zephyr]

🤑

[azure walrus]

you should play...

[steel zephyr]

no im not doing the millitary thing bro 😭

[azure walrus]

an ostland achievement run

[azure walrus]

im doing that myself because I js wanna see what it can do

i hath quitst begginge

ostland achievement run tho

[keen gazelle]

If you play hoi4 multiplayer and your country has free time, you can build an impossible railway network.

[steel zephyr]

all good until the enemy uses those railways to reach the danube in 3 days 😨

[fair horizon]

mobilize 10% of their population during ww2

[flint wyvern]

What political advisors do I get as germany

[fair horizon]

irl usa railway network

what happens to the dutch navy in historical? does it get any action after germany takes the netherlands?

[vital cove]

that was fun
the allies decided to give me all my cores in silesia and east prussia as plc, without me being in the war against germany. was busy fighting russia then looked west and suddenly found out i got free land

[fair horizon]

lmao nice

[vital cove]

but now the entire world is guaranteeing Ukraine

who has the rest of my cores

not feeling like building a navy and going to the us

Ukraine is separately guaranteed by the uk, france, the us, and czechoslovakia

Czechoslovakia being in a faction with italy amd the rest of the balkans

[steel zephyr]

just one more game...

[restive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/one-more-game-one-more-game-squid-game-season-2-one-more-round-netflix-gif-2126750657036619838

[cunning pagoda]

hello again

whats your favourite nation

[fair horizon]

they should let us make corvettes that are even cheaper destroyers

[azure walrus]

ostland?

[tender stump]

this is why I love submarines

[fair horizon]

bros beating up an obselete navy 💀

[tender stump]

they picked that fight

you see they existed

and I didn't like it

it's their own fault

[fair horizon]

thats a fair reason

ill allow it

[azure walrus]

why are all the great powers either going communist or fascist

while the biggest nonaligned fish in europe(otto here) commits suicide

😭

[tender stump]

You want them to go democracy? Are you crazy?
that would mean listening to their people wtf?!

[azure walrus]

well, as the military directorate of latvia, it would be preferable to have nonaligned powers that have my back

the best choice in europe right now is portugal(united kingdom of portugal and brazil in the process of being formed rn)

even switzerland stopped being neutral(going to join the italians soon) just to pmo

😭 🙏

the ONE time i play (nonaligned) military latvia

leftist infighting

got lucky

[steel zephyr]

wow, only 44

[pure crown]

How does one invite swizz to the Eu

[azure walrus]

try the democratic path

[dire trellis]

Im currently trying tolearn how to mod (pls kill me)

[azure walrus]

possible ally?!

[knotty vortex]

i’m doing german civil war

and i just got a thing

saying that the blackshirts are organising in the UK

but i have historical AI on

[azure walrus]

is it worth it to annex estonia

[azure walrus]

technically

you do have historical ai on

[knotty vortex]

but that’s non historical

and i have historical ai on

[azure walrus]

but if the ai sees you doing a nonhistorical

path

[fair horizon]

ayo european people

how many kg in one of your metric tons?

[azure walrus]

if the ai sees you do an ahistorical path, it will follow suit

for example

if germany has a civil war and gets rid of hitler

france and/or britain may go fascist/communist

to ensure that ww2 still unfolds

[knotty vortex]

just seems irrelevant that the british do it

don’t really have a correlation to the german civil war

[azure walrus]

wym

well it makes sense mechanically

because SOMEONE has to cause world tension

to rise

and if it isnt the germans

(nazis gone)

[pure crown]

How big does the non aligned need to be so I can switcj

[azure walrus]

then who else but a different great power

[vital cove]

you always wanna get the other Baltics as any of them

[azure walrus]

alright

[fair horizon]

tell that to my game that took until 43 to get 15% world tension (i really hate the australia tree)

[azure walrus]

tell that to MY game that took until 1955 to get 50% world tension

[steel zephyr]

so far

[azure walrus]

nice

[steel zephyr]

free land, also why are your states just numbers bruh

[azure walrus]

my game glitched a while ago

like a year ago atp

[astral forum]

Clear your cache

[azure walrus]

i tried

[astral forum]

Like

[steel zephyr]

estonia about to be slimed

[azure walrus]

oh same here

[astral forum]

Deleting the files in paradox/Hearts of Iron IV? Not the Steam folders and stuff?

That's weird

[steel zephyr]

the meta is just to break through parnu 🤑

always works for me

[rain loom]

i wanna do my first wc which country is best?

[steel zephyr]

the soviets just had to get involved

[fair horizon]

rip your land gains

[steel zephyr]

bruh cant even take anything

shouldve just waited for soviet civil war

well uh i got it anyways

[fair horizon]

dont wait for russia to invade

oh cool

[steel zephyr]

nice, getting lith too

bruh

nvm

[crisp wyvern]

Hello commies

I'm gonna play rt56 today

Any advice?

[fair horizon]

Yeah, allow democracy you commie

[steel zephyr]

there we go

[crisp wyvern]

Uhm, akshually I'm not a commie I'm a royalist 🤓

[rain loom]

anyone got anything?

[crisp wyvern]

(dunno why but I always loved playing as non aligned nations)

[fair horizon]

based

[crisp wyvern]

I only play communist paths whenever I'm a minor nations with less than 2M pop

And either way

Might still go non aligned or

[fair horizon]

cringe

be like australia

[crisp wyvern]

Ze brown ideology

[fair horizon]

mobilize 15% of your population for war

[crisp wyvern]

Actually formed a sphere of influence as Australia once

[fair horizon]

have the world's 4th largest navy

[crisp wyvern]

gallipolli:

[fair horizon]

(during ww2)

[fair horizon]

I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WW1

except that that was one of the dumbest attacks ever

[crisp wyvern]

The Australians and many commonwealth members lost many brave men in the failed landings on the ottoman coast during WW1

Though they had greater success in places like Iraq or the Levant, the coast of turkiye was just really guarded

[fair horizon]

i sorta know like a slight amount to that

[crisp wyvern]

And also pulled out one of the most effective retreats too

[heavy vigil]

also more mountainous

[crisp wyvern]

The 12 offensives on the isonzo river?

[crisp wyvern]

This

[heavy vigil]

and better known by the turkish army

[heavy vigil]

since its their homeland and higher pop density

[fair horizon]

well from what i understood churchill tried to run the dardenalls before that which made them reinforce it before they sent in the soldiers

[crisp wyvern]

Makes sense, it was basically and Afghanistan situation but if Afghanistan was three times larger but certainly weaker

[heavy vigil]

well it was the first ever large scale naval invasion since guns

and gunboats

[fair horizon]

i really do want to learn more about ww1 but i kinda only know about some of the sea battles

[heavy vigil]

so there wasnt much theory on what to do

[steel zephyr]

just waiting for the german invasion now

[heavy vigil]

and then they did about everything wrong so now we know what not to do

[heavy vigil]

like sending in minesweepers which did absolutely nothing but alarm defenders

entrenching on a coast which is notoriously wet

water and trenches dont work together well

i think the only true impressive part was the retreat where they set up a bunch of dummies with water timers shooting guns

gallipoli was also the first time ANZAC became a thing, military and political cooperation between new zealand and australia

also marking it as one of the main milestones towards their identities as non-colonial states (though theyll always have those)

gallipoli is hugely important

[night wasp]

i hate britain

keeps ruining my alt historical games

[fair horizon]

it kinda sucks every time australia seems to have been involved in battles with other allies it just seems to go terribly wrong

[night wasp]

"goo goo ga ga lets get usa in our faction goo goo ga ga"

[fair horizon]

what no navy does to a plane stacking pleb 🥀

[night wasp]

the fact that they still go historical path on alt historical is insane

[night wasp]

i do have a navy

[crisp wyvern]

I'm more centered around learning Chinese history this time around after being focused in 1960s to modern age history

[heavy vigil]

i mean australia has unique flauna and terrain so any time australian forces have to fight in say europe theyll have poor (life) experience to fight

[night wasp]

what im gonna do with usa though

is

unknown

[crisp wyvern]

I remember inflicting heavy casualties on the Japanese as Qing China

[fair horizon]

yeah but even the battle of the java sea with the dutch/american/australian/british ships kinda just went wrong

[crisp wyvern]

120,000 casualties from my side against 560,000 on the Japanese side

(I was playing as the actual China, the one with Nanjing)

[steel zephyr]

hopefully this should limit german land invasion 🙏

[crisp wyvern]

(no warlords helping me)

[storm ember]

yo guys
can someone help me with the navi real quick?
preferably in a vc, havent touched the game in a whole year, not sure if this is new or if it was before

[flint wyvern]

Who is better speer or todt

[steel zephyr]

there we go

[manic iris]

I alwayd di vut im playing a mod where it limits ai divisions its supposed to make it easier idk ima continue wthiout mods

[serene breach]

rangers with land cruisers are illegal

[steel zephyr]

uh oh, even with a level 5 fort

[half onyx]

What template are you using?

Im also guessing its just air superiority...

[leaden oyster]

Just cheese it bruv

Look up german civil war cheese

[steel zephyr]

im done for

i might have to retreat to the dauga 😢

[leaden oyster]

U playing historical?

[ripe slate]

Thats monarchist Poland I think so Id assume not

[steel zephyr]

no

[leaden oyster]

Damn

[half onyx]

Try switching to an 8/0

16 cw is the META

[steel zephyr]

might just have to do it 😢

[steel zephyr]

what is thsi in normal terms im not up with the lingo yet

[leaden oyster]

Yeah retreat and wait til germany declares war on another country

[half onyx]

8 infantry divisions

You now have 9

*brigades

[leaden oyster]

Dont think youll be able to push when ur the only one who theyre at war with

[heavy vigil]

you have 400K manpower

where is your army

you could have at least double that out

[steel zephyr]

retreated in time atleast

[steel zephyr]

yes i got a lot of manpowre but not equipment you see

[heavy vigil]

HOW

you should have like a major power factory count

[steel zephyr]

no bruh

[heavy vigil]

you have 46 okay you got kinda screwed assuming you did your eco tree

but that should still be plenty

[steel zephyr]

??? 😭

[azure walrus]

who's winning this

[heavy vigil]

okay you have like 20-30 civs

how did you not make more mils

[steel zephyr]

i am making more mils

[heavy vigil]

awesome

[craggy dove]

latvietis?

[steel zephyr]

😨

germany better start invading more people quick

[craggy dove]

how to properly maximise xp gain with voulunteers?

[frank estuary]

Why is Japan not offering a white peace? They have no foothold in China, Manchuria, or Korea.

[steel zephyr]

thankfully though i got a medium river with all forests and urban on the other side

[heavy vigil]

they only do it to the CHI tag

[frank estuary]

Guess I'm building a navy, then.

[steel zephyr]

about to also get a lot more mils now with this

[azure walrus]

ok lithuania isnt gonna hold

[steel zephyr]

well uh good and bad

good that germany got more enemies, bad that i'll have to defend my belarus too

[whole matrix]

Iron man tho

[steel zephyr]

good time to break through

[final sinew]

the fire rises or millennium dawn for the day

[heavy vigil]

i would like to inform you that your profile is in violation of the #server-rules and we will have to action you (such as mute) if you dont change it

as in for the server

[steel zephyr]

yoo poles might be able to hold baltic encirclement

[fair horizon]

wait did you lose lithuania?

[final sinew]

hes retired

[steel zephyr]

yep, had to retreat to the dauga

[fair horizon]

smh

[steel zephyr]

either lose lithuania and courland or lose everything

[heavy vigil]

anything after 1945 is considered modern politics :>

[steel zephyr]

we are so back??

[fair horizon]

POOSH

[pure crown]

I will turn facism if I have more than 50% support?

[steel zephyr]

🤤

[fair horizon]

i hate that european federation

BECAUSE THE BRITISH ONE IS STILL RED

[pure crown]

Lol

[pure crown]

They decolonized when they turned communist

[steel zephyr]

latvia so back

[fair horizon]

nah i mean when you do the european federation as britian it doesnt turn blue

also this is my favorite acheivement

[pure crown]

W

[pure crown]

Waiting to turn facist so I can conqurer all

[fair horizon]

mabye its time for a monarchists run of britian

[steel zephyr]

almost there

[knotty vortex]

im confused what this needs me to do

[steel zephyr]

now the germans are stuck on what they were fighting for

[fair horizon]

either basically not in a faction or they're your puppet

also still unaligned

[fair horizon]

please tell me you didnt let them escape through memel

[steel zephyr]

nope, all died

from riga to stettin

[pure crown]

Lol

[tender stump]

nah what is the ai doing?!

they have one single factory on guns

nearly all the infantry equipment they are using are the ww1 era guns I Have been mass producing SPECIFICALLY to lend lease em to them cause they couldn't produce any themselves

[craggy dove]

as germany in spanish civil war how to maximize general xp?

do i just let my troops battle plan or try to activly do something

or just defend with a fallback line

[steel zephyr]

update: latvians in berlin

[fair horizon]

have them attack somewhere they wont be attritioned

[steel zephyr]

Berlin fell before Warsaw

[steel zephyr]

Both though, fell to latvia...

[jaunty ore]

Hey which country can be able to get 2 special forces paths?

[night wasp]

so beautiful..

[steel zephyr]

australia??

[supple summit]

peak shit

[brazen dew]

90280580837672972 @short hornet @signal lynx @oak bison

2x speed

multiplayer?

[oak bison]

yesh

[brazen dew]

holiday how many hours you got?

[signal lynx]

sure

[steel zephyr]

whats left of germany

[dapper river]

Yo I miss mp man 😭

[signal lynx]

like 800 in game, 1500 on steam

[wintry rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1287807957400031255/1465034499644461339/AD747141-864A-41DE-8C84-E1C9D78FCFD0.png?ex=6977a333&is=697651b3&hm=abee1035ef41eeed6477b3ff9f7bcb05b4f8fd0c2dc3b118a5f28cfd6fdaa0d3&

[brazen dew]

@short hornet you didnt do any of the deutch heer focues last time

[wintry rock]

Ha yes civil war between democrats

[brazen dew]

ah

1

me rn

@short hornet 90280580837672972

cuh

2x focuses

no theres only 2x focus

huh i have version: musketeer v1.17.3.0.3a95 (12bb)

@knotty gust i made new

[signal lynx]

yea mine's 12bb too

[brazen dew]

huh

[signal lynx]

it's not working though

[brazen dew]

i have fps map but i dont know if that changes anything (im usualy able to join other games with fps map)

lowk should get the new order ach

i have all dlcs

yea i can hear

1st

ngl would be crazy if it sudenly works

where did lance go?

[pure crown]

why aint i facist yet

[brazen dew]

yea i have all mods

*dlc

2x focus speed

[fair horizon]

bros never heard of australia hungary

[queen terrace]

Paradoxes are communists

[brazen dew]

@signal lynx does it work?

[queen terrace]

Or "are'

But paradox is company...

[signal lynx]

I can't get it to for some reason

[queen terrace]

I think are

[steel zephyr]

@supple summit alr lets bring it here maybe

[brazen dew]

wanna try hosting if you got all dlcs?

[steel zephyr]

how do i exit this ui 🥹

nvm it went away

[brazen dew]

oh it works

[supple summit]

why talk in the hoi4 chat

just text me

hoi4 general*

[fair horizon]

paradox changed the navy system because big plane lobbied for them to make it harder to understand to discourage people from building surface fleets

[ripe slate]

@brazen dewGo to MP channels/PMs

[brazen dew]

oh sry

its in alt historical

[oak bison]

its always a connection timeout for me

[fair horizon]

whats with all the destroyers throughout history charging bigger ships and having a last stand?

[pure crown]

How?

[fair horizon]

how what?

[pure crown]

Still democrat

[fair horizon]

iirc majors dont get to switch like minors can

only through focuses i think

[pure crown]

Oh

I just wanna take switzerland

[fair horizon]

do you get a war goal?

[pure crown]

No

[fair horizon]

rip

[pure crown]

unless i release france and make it communist

Cant Bec of rerally

[night wasp]

i stole italian fleet at the start of the game, made a bunch of subs that sink US fleets so they cant move their troops, im dominating the world

uk is dead aswell

[heavy vigil]

it depends on focus tree yeah

a lot of minors are also locked

some trees like chinese warlord, TFV trees allow manual swap

i think its nice

[rain loom]

is the communist path for yugoslavia good?

[pure crown]

6% democrat 90% facist

[rain loom]

aight

[prisma ermine]

kaiserredux sweden

[pure crown]

W sweden

I got nothing more to research in this playthrue

[uncut pollen]

Thats a cool flag

[prisma ermine]

kaisereddux has on of best flags

and really beautyfull amblems

[icy crescent]

Not really.
You can boost communism in some nations and afterwards trying to invite them.
I guess when you manage most offered nations in your control, you have a respectable faction.
But that's kind of it.

[fair horizon]

ngl its not fair that australia doesnt get its other 1936 leander cruisers because they werent comissioned yet

[pure crown]

Still democratic with 92% fscist

[prisma ermine]

play routh 56 mod only there you have balkan federation as formable otherwise boring as hell

[viscid coyote]

Turkey isn’t boring

I like reviving the ottoman empire

[prisma ermine]

play mod turky rework it has a cursed turkish-greek union and much more

[icy crescent]

People prefer an option to be at war as soon as 1937.
Excluding civil wars.
Turkey doesn't have it.

[prisma ermine]

dont

[viscid coyote]

Cursed

[heavy vigil]

they do!

you can go to war with kurdistan in 1936/37

also the USSR

[viscid coyote]

But what’s the point?

[icy crescent]

Except exceptions.

[heavy vigil]

you could win

[viscid coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-stalin-ussr-russia-edit-gif-16432123930007423420

Idk about that

[prisma ermine]

port strat

[icy crescent]

That's not a war.

[heavy vigil]

well you can also encircle them in the mountains

the caucasian supply is worse for ussr than for turkiye

[viscid coyote]

Really?

Ok that’s good

[heavy vigil]

well yeah larger army and its just bad

[viscid coyote]

Ok

[steel zephyr]

i pressed something wrong how to see hteir units again

[fair horizon]

bottom right has buttons to click that should show you the button for it

[manic stag]

am i cooked

[heavy vigil]

m

[tender stump]

press w

whoops

I meant m

[steel zephyr]

pressed m dw

[tender stump]

sorry

[tender stump]

excuse me?!

[tender stump]

winnable if you play it right I think

[rain loom]

i mean not necessarily but if i had the save its finished

[rain loom]

thx im trying to find countries with has alleged "fun"

[heavy vigil]

tbh not the issue

if you give up on guns (mostly) and mostly make arty your stats are okay

he has neither

[manic stag]

i gonna restart

trying win as china 1939

[heavy vigil]

also using very expensive units for no reason

[manic stag]

[tender stump]

gimme da save please I wanna see if I could win it sounds like a fun challenge

[tender stump]

just never have I seen that much infantry equipment deficit in a player played nation

[rain loom]

does anyone have any minor countries where the "fun" can be found?

[heavy vigil]

training units

ive seen worse

[little ibex]

Oh ahahahah what kind of equipment ?

1700h of game, I have been here for one year. First time I talk. Hello there.

[astral forum]

Small numbers (I've had 650k deficits before)

[little ibex]

Same playing mongolia in kaiseredux.

[astral forum]

That's wild 😭

[strong belfry]

guys can i take 50 gram creatine daily? with 500ml water

[little ibex]

70 million of man power though. 🙂

[little ibex]

Not sure about the quantity, depends of your body mass. I used milk instead of water. Also depends if you like I guess.

[frank estuary]

Please don't tell me that I had to stay as a warlord state for this achievement...

[night field]

how do i stop these bombers

[little ibex]

Hmmm I guess yes, the game might take you name tag for the one of china.

[coarse crane]

Anyone recommend a tutorial for beginners

[strong belfry]

im 20kg and 199 is it good?

[little ibex]

20kg ? I mean what is your weight.

[strong belfry]

jk im 94kg and 181

i just bought creatine today

[long pendant]

NO FLIPPING WAY I ENDED THE SICILY INVASION AS SOON AS ONE OF THE UK SPEECH WAS OVER

[native forge]

wtf

[tender stump]

annexing a swiss puppet must be THE most annoying thing in existance

[little ibex]

Hmmmm I think it's more reasonable to use 10g of creatin, that's already a lot. Plus it's will work good if you do a cutting. I'm around your size and weight 72.

[tender stump]

the militia divisions that I can't disband are so annoying

[little ibex]

You mean an enemy puppet or your puppet ? Why not over feeding them ship convey to assimilate them ?

[strong belfry]

im planing to be 80-85kg

i already lost 5.5kilo

[tender stump]

that is what I am doing

[little ibex]

Seem nice !

[tender stump]

but

then I get a bunch of their units

[little ibex]

Aaaaaah ahahahah.

[tender stump]

and half I can't disband cause it is the militia divs

cause for some reason the swiss restrictions apply to me

same for expeditionaries which I can't send back anymore

[little ibex]

Oh wow impresive in how many time ?

[azure walrus]

did you take hong kong, guangzhouwan, macau?

[strong belfry]

under 1 month

[tender stump]

and as they are my puppet I get force fed expeditionaries as is which is annoying

[frank estuary]

Yes

[little ibex]

Ay yes that's shit... I didn't follow everything. What nation are you playing ?

[azure walrus]

every japanese core?

[tender stump]

germany

[little ibex]

Oh wow keep going ! That's really impressive.

[tender stump]

I mean my playthrough is already kinda bugged as every time I load back into the game all my foreign garisson support just disappears

[little ibex]

Aaaaaah yes... well if you didn't take England you can still use them to guard your coast.

[tender stump]

I did some tests and it isn't that it gets used up

it actually disappears

[frank estuary]

Dammit, I missed a random island in the pacific. To to go to war with the USA.

[tender stump]

even if run the game for just long enough for the popup of "india gave us x million manpower" to disappear then save and reload it is gone

[little ibex]

Ooooh I got that I some point, did you verify the integrity of your files in steam ?

[tender stump]

true

didn't do that yet

so far I only corrected with commands tagging over and giving myself the manpower support back

[azure walrus]

well you came this far right?

[little ibex]

Yeah sometimes it's buggy... are you playing with mods ?

[tender stump]

yes

but I wouldn't know which mods are affecting it as none even touch that

[little ibex]

Road to 56 ?

[tender stump]

no

no complete change mods

only small tweaks

[little ibex]

Aaaah it may be that then.

[tender stump]

for example one allows coring when enough compliance is reached

but it doesn't touch the way garissons work

and all others are just things like "upgradable transport planes" or smth

[little ibex]

Hmmmmm there is more than 10 mods ?

[tender stump]

yes

[little ibex]

Ah then it should be good to verify the integrity. Was it doing that in the beginning ?

[tender stump]

ever since I first used garisson supports yes

at first I thought it was just used up

but when india sent me 2 million support and it disappeard in a few minutes I knew something was up

originally I thought it was cause I was using a template that was using puppet manpower as garisson but even after fixing that it still did the same

[manic stag]

fk do i win 39 china

[little ibex]

Oh wow yes ahah, I'm 99% sure the mods are not interacting with each other correctly.

[manic stag]

i try and stop em from shipping troops in

failed

[dapper orchid]

I DID NOT KNOW BIG BEN HAD A COLLAPSE ANIMATION WHEN YOU NUKE LONDON

[tender stump]

well I verified and it did say it was changing out one faulty file

so lets hope for the best

[dapper orchid]

Peep the K/D ratio

[little ibex]

Yay ! Some bugs happened with mods since the last update.

[little ibex]

Insane ahah, naval invasion ?

[dapper orchid]

Nah playing a mod

[little ibex]

Which one ?

[dapper orchid]

Hearts of Sandbox

[tender stump]

does it say what you are missing? or is it bugged

[little ibex]

Aaaah that why you are playing as the benelux republic.

[manic stag]

i gonna try defend until usa come in

💀

[tender stump]

they thought they were safe from my bombers over there

[fair horizon]

the amerikabomber

[tender stump]

Ja

[little ibex]

... 1973 ?

Ahahah.

What's happening.

[tender stump]

I play slow but low casualty

also I had to push through half of russia iran through india and into china cause the allies invaded the soviets and allied the chinese

[little ibex]

Aaaah I understand...

[little ibex]

Oh wow well I understand better... why not more unite ?

[tender stump]

I don't need more

I rarely use more than one army group of frontline units, there is just no need for it

[little ibex]

What kind of templat do you use ?

[tender stump]

not the best as I had to add some AT in retrospect cause suprisingly the AI managed to make good tank divisions for once but it does the job

especially with defensive focused infantry sub-doctrine and a bunch of cas and air supperiority in every zone I fight in

I have started to wonder if flame support tanks are worth the fact that your infantry starts needing fuel

[little ibex]

Aaaaah ok ok I understand that's solid...
Well apparently if you need more the Swiss like to give you some help. 🙂

[little ibex]

Oh yes flam support tank are insanely good, in my case I use them all the time when I can.

[quasi shoal]

1973 and like no divs?

[quasi shoal]

why's the org so low

[tender stump]

(first time playing with nsb and the tank designer)

[signal oracle]

how do i make my puppets take land

[tender stump]

honestly