hoi4-general

[pseudo raven]

u can even try naval invading them

[finite plume]

The tech in base HOI4 is small enough to a point that technological advantage doesn't really matter

It's more revolved around template, strength, and supply

[lethal ether]

worst part i hate as france is that i cant invade italy early because of no supply at the border

[finite plume]

Plus the Alps

[lethal ether]

that too

[pseudo raven]

aviation tech metters

[finite plume]

If you win the air war you practically always win

I just mean in general

Using MD as an example

US can easily crush African countries with 2000's tech when Africa mainly has 60's-80's tech

But in HOI4, that would just be like 1936 tech vs 1930-1933 tech

Sure, it can prob still win, but the combat difference is much higher in the MD version than base simply because there's a greater gap

[pseudo raven]

small nuance there is no independent Africa

[finite plume]

Liberia, Ethiopia:

[pseudo raven]

Ethiopia dies

actually 50/50

Liberia

[finite plume]

Usually they go into exile

[pseudo raven]

is vibing

[finite plume]

It's a theoretical not a practical

[pseudo raven]

50/50 sometimes they win

[finite plume]

Heck I can use my own mod as an example

The difference in stats between a nation with 90's tech and one with 2015's tech is way greater than vanilla's 1930-33 tech vs 1936

[errant remnant]

No thats the date of the irl day

Its RT56 mod

[stark pebble]

lol

[prime totem]

BATMAN

as a turk i can confirm this 👍

[last cave]

it is possible but diffucult if u didnt master the game

if germany goes reinland and then doesnt kneel to our demmands to stop it french are in war with germans and if ur extremly lucky britain will help

[stark pebble]

britain is going communist and im doing a soviet saveeee

[azure walrus]

oh yes

is this tuff

encirclement

[last cave]

why do you bless mine eyes

[azure walrus]

Oh hello Kaiser Wilhelm

[last cave]

Hello mine dear friend

[azure walrus]

hows it going in the netherlands

where you are exiled

[last cave]

Mine succesors didnt disapoint me❤️

[azure walrus]

are you proud of willy iii

[last cave]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-tears-gif-25605273

[last cave]

yes

[warped flint]

its kinda small

[last cave]

dont forget to dismantle US like they did in versailles

[azure walrus]

honestly idk why bc he got couped by the navy in 2 years, this is all the work of your admirals

[azure walrus]

nah i need woman in high castle achievement

united puppet

[last cave]

also perfect

[warped flint]

versaille should have been harsher

luxembourg should have annxed germany

its rightfull luxembourgish territory

[last cave]

i will come to your dreams and touch you

[warped flint]

they stole it some time I made up in -1563

[warped flint]

Woah

Thanks

[last cave]

https://giphy.com/gifs/KTs6u5vQtiMglEcPWm

[warped flint]

i will do it

[fair horizon]

DO IT PLEASE

Scorch the entire thing

[last cave]

no

im there

dont do ut

it*

[fair horizon]

A big sacrifice but a very important one

[warped flint]

Exactly

[last cave]

https://tenor.com/view/pdiddy-gif-12173990671691191059

[last cave]

im gonna touch you twice but irl

i will ressurect only to touch you

[warped flint]

bro the kaiser needs to get a job 💔

[fair horizon]

based

[last cave]

im ded vro

[warped flint]

So?

[last cave]

there is no job in hell

[fair horizon]

being dead is no excuse for not having a job. do better.

[warped flint]

Sheeps mod is kinda hard

[last cave]

dam

[warped flint]

I cant get a landing in the uk

[last cave]

as?

[fair horizon]

neither could the kaiser

[warped flint]

Germany

I am trying with paras and having some issues

[last cave]

hey, i was busy with francozen, Griks and Russ

[warped flint]

Austria was carrying germany honestly

[fair horizon]

and letting the british sink the german navy

[sick saddle]

What?!

[warped flint]

Yes

[sick saddle]

Otherwise

[warped flint]

they took out 2 countries and germany could only take luxembourg

fully

[sick saddle]

🫩✌️

[fair horizon]

honestly ngl i have no clue what caused ww1

[craggy dove]

in the new DLC are the chineese communists or nationalists better?

[last cave]

holy balls

[craggy dove]

for unifying

china

[warped flint]

franz ferdinand

[last cave]

Sibei Xan Ma

[sick saddle]

Sarajevo?

[fair horizon]

yeah but like who went to war with who because of that?

[craggy dove]

fr?

wait

they dont exist anymore

in this update

[warped flint]

Austria hungary went to war with serbia, serbia got montengro and russia in, Germany got in and then declared war on france knowing they would join anyway

[last cave]

oh u meant ideologies, then its ofc fascist xibei san ma with russian language on

it gets very interesting name

[fair horizon]

wait thats actually hilarious

literally a hoi4 war

yeah so new zealand called ecuador in who was fighting peru so now we're at war with the axis whos at war with russia

or something like that

i need to learn more about ww1 besides naval battles

[last cave]

shi

[ripe slate]

@last caveThis server is English-only

[fair horizon]

YEAH THATS RIGHT

ENGLISH ONLY MR KAISER

[last cave]

i didint notice

i was typing cyrilic

[last cave]

Nicy learned me russian

[fair horizon]

i only know the greatest language

american english

[last cave]

fake english

[fair horizon]

real english

[last cave]

nooo

[fair horizon]

the british speak 🇫🇷 and thats worse

[last cave]

i love mountaon republic of northern caucausus

i wish i was born there and became the monarch there

Wilhelm the second, monarch of mighty mountains

[last cave]

Franzosen

[fair horizon]

TRUE IF REAL

[last cave]

if only nukes existed back then

[azure walrus]

before and after that encirclement

ignore japan's bum ahh "contributions", those losers were at war for 2x the time I have been and lost all of China(Reorganized National Government) in a year

[last cave]

i remeber killing germany as luxembourg for achievment, and not just luxembourg but as commies

it was suffer

me playing

as dirty socialists

[sick saddle]

[uneven rover]

why not nazi germany?

[last cave]

can you create fridge hoverboard

[last cave]

theyre boring

[sick saddle]

Yes

Wait

[karmic cloud]

who has the most hours on hoi 4 here?

[last cave]

i have 1,6k

but i dont have many time to play

only holidays

[azure walrus]

achievement run

also nazis less fun

erich raeder into kaiserin victoria 🔥

is this achievable

[junior imp]

It was not worth it god I lost so much time

[tawdry nebula]

Alright.

[last cave]

one of the easiest achievments

[azure walrus]

excuse me but what

why is it British

[azure walrus]

for reference here is britain

😠

[last cave]

151 to go

[pseudo raven]

should be good

[winged field]

Fortress Luxemburg my beloved kd ratio ✨

[last cave]

rael lux

[leaden wraith]

Omar Bradley reportedly mobilizes 11 million men to guard the canadian border

[tawdry nebula]

Wow so many Reichkommisariat.

[fair horizon]

chat does anyone have the deport hungarians meme?

[winged field]

Yeah usually they don't do them so much

The power of lux I guess

[last cave]

i have biggest jihad in history meme (chechen focus in Millenium)

[tawdry nebula]

I see and good luck.

I'm doing my Japan run currently.

[winged field]

Have a good banzai then

[tawdry nebula]

Thanks.

[tawdry nebula]

I just went 2 day ahead from 1 January 1936.

[molten forge]

this enough?

to capture china as a warlord

[prisma saddle]

i am never going to do again african union

[molten forge]

i use the basic 3/3 template

[prisma saddle]

💔

[fair horizon]

ty

[last cave]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-gif-26206182

[last cave]

i meant, like microwave hoverboard

but with fridge

[azure walrus]

LETS GO

[vital trellis]

True!

[green magnet]

are modern tanks good late game?

[patent thistle]

by the time you get them you have already won

/ the game is already over

[molten forge]

what determines if youre a major power

[green magnet]

Im playing italy rn

[patent thistle]

even as a non major you usually end the game at this point

also my red flood korea run is now basically dead

[green magnet]

so should i just spam mediums?

[patent thistle]

it keeps F***ing crashing and i have no clue why

[green magnet]

anyone know a good design i can mess around with?

[molten forge]

am playing the guangxi clique and even though am doing ok i still aint a major

[patent thistle]

at this point do you even go for tanks?

[molten forge]

i have 200 infantry

[pseudo raven]

Their chassis are worse then any others

[molten forge]

like how much worse

[pseudo raven]

Alot considering that I was advised to not research them

I recently asked about them too

[sharp sierra]

theyre like super expensive and low relability

theres probably a bunch of other issues

[vital cove]

no, they are bad

even if you have researched them yoi shouldn't use them because they're just worse

you can't use additional turrets on them

[molten forge]

avarage chinese army

[green magnet]

the secondary cannons are actually good?

[pseudo raven]

Yes

[azure walrus]

what even is this 🙏

beat russia btw

[torn rampart]

is opposing hitler a good idea

focus*

[sharp sierra]

for what

[restive sable]

they made vladivostok an independent tag with NCNS

i think

[azure walrus]

i dont have that dlc

im just confused at the assortment of names on the screen

the last romanov in vladivostok?

party called WAR?

[vital cove]

yes

[molten forge]

Play Czech instead

Very stronk nation

[amber matrix]

if im playing as poland in august 1939 should i just deploy all lines immediately

[sharp sierra]

ur just gonna die unless you stack 40 divisions next to the czech puppet you create for the strategy

idek if that still works for the achievement

this one

[azure walrus]

who wins ts 1v1

mitteleuropa or greece

(and the rest of the co prosperity sphere is also with greece ig)

[amber matrix]

Bro i just got graped by germany

[azure walrus]

how so

[amber matrix]

im poland

[azure walrus]

did wilhelm ii touch you in your sleep

oh

[amber matrix]

I mean it was better than the actual war

150k Casualties to the Germans

[torn rampart]

wait guys

how do you invade america as germany

[amber matrix]

do you understand navy

and do you have uk in ur control

[azure walrus]

canada

aka kill the british first

can countries flip nonaligned

bc i cant orchestrate a coup

bc they only own 1 state

(its their capital)

consequently i must find other means

can i even flip them

[fair horizon]

very very important to have that many spies on luxembourg

very strong country

[azure walrus]

ik

can they flip nonaligned

[fair horizon]

it has 2 tiles now

[azure walrus]

yeah but 1 state

[fair horizon]

couldnt you just conquer them?

[azure walrus]

42% wt

i need 50%

japan is justifying on my siberian russian puppet

so i can prolly raise it

[fair horizon]

ah well

[azure walrus]

WE LOVE HOI4 EUROPEAN UNION MECHANICS 🔥

WHERE THIS ISNT A UNIFIED EUROPE BECAUSE OF STUPID LUXEMBOURG

[torn rampart]

uk aint a problem

they didn't join the war

[pale flare]

why can i call these guys into the war?

hes not in my faction and any faction for that matter

[last cave]

🤨

[last cave]

germany guarantees u

[pale flare]

ah, so i can call into war nations that gurantee me?

[last cave]

yea

[pale flare]

gotcha

[fair horizon]

no hes dead

[last cave]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-gif-26206182

[woven gate]

i think i broke it...

[knotty vortex]

mikhael yegerov

insane photo

gotta be up there with my favourites of all time

[pale flare]

thats a very long naval invasion holy

[proud tapir]

H....Horthy?

[restive sable]

this happened to me yesterday 😭

[fair horizon]

not enough effects to be a bleed out situation

fade it a bit

[pale flare]

this guy is just going for it lmao

[green magnet]

which airframe do you guys suggest that i should put torpedoes on?

[ornate timber]

Does anyone here understand naval? I’ve been producing a lot of ships since the beginning of the game as Italy but I don’t know what to do with them.

ChatGPT says to make groups of 10 submarines and set them to convoy raiding

And make one big strike force fleet with all the cruisers, heavy cruisers, battleships, and 25-35 destroyers

[pale flare]

do you have the dlc that adds MIOs? personally i like putting naval stuff on my medium planes

[terse skiff]

please don't use chatgpt

[azure walrus]

ChatGPT can _______________

[calm delta]

i hate the new naval stuff

whats the best modern day mod rn ?

anyone got a link to a good one

[pale flare]

what do you want your ships to do? since youre italy i think youll want to split up your ships a bit to at the very least cover your whole coastline to avoid getting naval invasions and if thats not a concern, set them to naval invasion support

[calm delta]

naval invasoins dont work anyomore i swear

[pale flare]

personally i dont like doing one massive fleet, id rather split them up

also ensure your admiral for subs and surface are different

[azure walrus]

WTF

[pale flare]

they do

[azure walrus]

WTFFF

[calm delta]

anyways do you have any modern day mods i can play

[pale flare]

i dont play massive overhaul mods

but fwih, the fire rises is a pretty good one

[calm delta]

i cantfind any apart from milleneum dawn which takes4 hours for a yeat

[azure walrus]

MY EMPIRE EXISTS ON EVERY DARN CONTINENT

THE UNITED STATES SAT ON THEIR USELESS TUSHIE ALL DAY

AND KICKED ROCKS

WHILE I KICKED EVERY OTHER GREAT POWER

HOW TF AM I 2ND

[calm delta]

idk which one is actaul one tho @pale flare #

hoi4 has a werid sitation with me i dont like playing then i do

hopefully it doesnt crash even tho my pc is 1k in price

[calm delta]

thats cool

[azure walrus]

this is the US btw, who decided that they are 1st

[azure walrus]

is this score based solely on div count

in thaqt case

I STILL outnumber them

[calm delta]

https://tenor.com/view/dahliabunni-popcorn-gif-22679950

How The us feels rn

Hehe

[azure walrus]

im at a loss on how to continue

i have 39% wt

its 1949

cant justify on anyone

the singular hope i have is japan shooting itself in the foot and declaring war on my russian puppet

so I can annex a whole lot of land

to generate more wt

[astral forum]

zawg waited till '49 to realize it was hopeless instead of resetting 😭

[azure walrus]

Well no

I beat the Soviets in late ‘48

Bc I thought I could raise wt by annexing land

[sharp sierra]

why would "low fuel" penalty affect cavalry

all units really

[azure walrus]

Well

If you think about it

The body of the human and the horse

What are they but a machine

[sharp sierra]

why are all units affected by speed penalty cause of that its so dumb

[azure walrus]

That requires fuel to run?

[astral forum]

Humans are canonically a car according to school so

[azure walrus]

Really,

[azure walrus]

So like how can I provoke Japan into war

[opaque zinc]

I love hoi4 that’s all I have to say today

[azure walrus]

They justified a war goal

[opaque zinc]

And I love rt56

[azure walrus]

And now they are chicken

TACO - Tojo Always Chickens Out

[astral forum]

Can you justify on Manchukuo or any other puppets?

[azure walrus]

no

im nonaligned

and therefoire need 50% wt

to justify

[astral forum]

I don't remember, can coups increase wt?

[azure walrus]

you mean in La Resistance

or the pre-LR coup system

bc I have La Resistance

[astral forum]

either

[azure walrus]

wait

do coups put countries into civil war

[astral forum]

pre-LR yeah, idk how LR works tho cause I don't own it

[azure walrus]

ah

[astral forum]

I think theres a thing for that though with spies

[azure walrus]

ik

ok so from what i can tell the "orchestrate coup" mission does indeed begin a civil war

that should raise wt right?

i just dont want to play this "very convenient and relaxing" game again

[astral forum]

I don't think it does...

declaring war raises war support but idk if that counts

annexing their core territories as one of the combatants dosen't though

[azure walrus]

i pulled back my troops from the russo-japanese border

to maybe bait them into assuming its empty

should I do the same from the mongol front

?

[astral forum]

idk if that will affect it much but you can try?

[azure walrus]

also do you think waiting for luxembourg to flip naturally is a lost cause

bc i want them to join mitteleuropa

so i can integrate them

and finally form eu

but idk if they can do that

i know that countries flip at 60%

support

for an ideology

but idk if it works for n

[astral forum]

idk

[azure walrus]

i am going to push to 60% support

and then send my spies elsewhere

because luxembourg can only waste my time for so long

its been so long

[astral forum]

Luxembourg has godlike power

[azure walrus]

its the hat

im telling you

theres something about that hat

maybe annexing poland will help

[astral forum]

It's always been the hat...

Okay yeah that might

love that Polish Rump State

[oak mantle]

Did you do that one thing in the german civil war where you promise stuff to the navy and dont fulfill the promise then they like civil war or smth

[azure walrus]

yeah

when i have the pp

i will get victoria

for woman in a high castle achievement

if i can even justify on the us

🥀

[dusky burrow]

uh... i'm not sure if you can do that on military dictatorship path

[azure walrus]

yeah i can

watch me

(when i get 150 pp)

[azure walrus]

also ts isnt military dictatorship

its willy iii into navy coup

i changed the succession line and stuff

[deep solstice]

LOL

200 vs 14K

yo the ai in ts game is frying me

my friend is playing czechoslovakia 😭

[azure walrus]

which ai

hold on, usa can technically go communist rn

this would mean 2nd us civil war

which means...

world tension

🙂

this is historical though

but i hope i have deviated enough from the historical sequence of events

for the us to turn red

yall think this is historical

[deep solstice]

germany

its 36k to 700 rn

my friend is czech

[azure walrus]

germany has 36k to 700k what?

casualties?

Long Live Kaiser Erich I!

ok no

[sharp sierra]

so sick of these ai last stands

[azure walrus]

cuh what

the election js happened

nonaligned was at 60%

man these luxembourgish voters dont know anything 😢

LETS GO

japan declared war after all 🥹

[rigid lion]

heavy tank destroyer op?

[oak mantle]

good? yes. op? no

[rigid lion]

So which tank is better?

[oak mantle]

it depends on what ur using the tank for

[rigid lion]

universal breakthrough for a major for example, Germany to France with Discord ai (he have good defense)

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

I don't think it necessary means civil war though

[sharp sierra]

every time i attack they just do that

[flat pawn]

just take more tiles around the city

[sharp sierra]

just wait for them to stop last standing its not hard to beat their units

theyve done 4 last stands in 1 month

i hope sinkiang doesnt do this....

[deep solstice]

I mean 700

as in

700

germany had 36 THOUSAND deaths

czechoslovakia

had

just 700

[azure walrus]

ahh

encirclements 🔥

[azure walrus]

yoo

how

sudeten forts doing WORK

[woven gate]

karl donuts just got kicked in his doe nuts

[tepid crown]

Only really good in mp. Waste of IC in sp

[azure walrus]

yoo

isnt this a reference to a different paradox game

that i dont play

[silver lodge]

Eu4

[azure walrus]

ah

whens that one take place again

[silver lodge]

"Comet sighted" is a random event that gives you as of the last patch 7 different options, all of which are -1 stability, and that's in a game where stability is on a scale of -3 to 3 so it's a big deal

[silver lodge]

1444-1821

[azure walrus]

i see

is that the one with free city of krakow

[silver lodge]

"The end is near!" is one of the options btw

[silver lodge]

That's vic3 I think

[azure walrus]

ah

[silver lodge]

eu4 has Poland, and I think Poland starts with some of its territory controlled by vassals but I think Krakow is directly controlled

vic3 the only existing-on-map Polish country is the city of Krakow, a puppet of Austria

[azure walrus]

i see

how tf does the rump siberian russia

have all that war participation

theyre a puppet of me btw

[silver lodge]

ck3 Krakow is in the middle of a bunch of pagans, and I don't usually pay attention to that area so idk its status

eu5 similar "don't pay attention so don't know", but it's probably part of Poland

[woven gate]

greece:

https://tenor.com/view/adin-adinross-what-does-he-even-do-adin-what-does-he-even-do-what-does-he-even-do-meme-gif-7301893521340817246

[azure walrus]

there is a second generic focus tree greece btw

thats also nonaligned

but that one is my puppet

I carved it out of turkish-controlled aegean islands

bc mitteleuropa was bugged

and wouldnt let me puppet greece

(i cant integrate this one through decisions either)

[silver lodge]

Probably they had a bunch of divisions on the Manchurian border and rushed it?

[azure walrus]

can i request all of their divisions and put them in spain

to prevent them from being annoying

[sharp sierra]

what if we could just research another research slot

[fickle thicket]

it would scale hella quick

[fair horizon]

what if they made australia have a good tree

[opaque zinc]

The world would explode

[upbeat patio]

pls usa rework

[azure walrus]

yo kaiser wilhelm ii

[fair horizon]

usa is fine

my minor needs buffs before them

[upbeat patio]

what's your minor

[fair horizon]

australia

no plane mio

no 3rd research till 1939

[upbeat patio]

australia has been played by 5 people ever

[fair horizon]

shut up

i play it all the time

[upbeat patio]

well youre 1/5

[fair horizon]

i dont care if it sucks

[upbeat patio]

usa focus tree just gets bland by 1942

[fair horizon]

irl america be like:

[slim nexus]

perfect idea, next dlc rework austrlia canada and the usa

best of both worlds

[upbeat patio]

im just saying

i think the nation who liberated western europe deserves a rework before the nation that held out in tobruk

[fair horizon]

rework australia, nerf nz and give the phillipines and siam a tree

[hoary glen]

Fax the fact Pearl Harbor isn’t mentioned is ridiculous

[slim nexus]

phillipines has a tree

[fair horizon]

i meant indonesia

but yeh

[upbeat patio]

true

[fair horizon]

australia mobilized 1/10th of their population in ww2

[upbeat patio]

congo tree before indonesia was crazy to me

[upbeat patio]

so half a division

ok

[hoary glen]

Africa is so not important

[fair horizon]

1 million australians out of 10 million is pretty cool

[upbeat patio]

i think i know what nationality you are

[fair horizon]

american

im from iowa

only the pacific theater is cool for the usa ngl

[upbeat patio]

wow

[fair horizon]

european theater is boring

hey we bombed the crap out of them again and again and again

[upbeat patio]

czech also deserves a rework

[fair horizon]

they're getting one in one of the upcoming dlcs

[upbeat patio]

oh nice

[dusky burrow]

the midwesterners yearn for the ocean waves

[fair horizon]

same with australia in q2

[fair horizon]

you had to look up my state didnt you?

[dusky burrow]

you literally just said you were from iowa

[fair horizon]

yeah but are you american and knew it was midwest or did you have to look it up?

[dusky burrow]

ill annoyed

[fair horizon]

oh im sorry

[upbeat patio]

"did you use a calc for 10x500"

[fair horizon]

couldnt imagine being the second worst neighbor of the iowa

[dusky burrow]

who's the worst? nebraska?

[fair horizon]

yeah lmao

[dusky burrow]

makes sense

[fair horizon]

god put a river between iowa and nebraska to keep them on their side

[dusky burrow]

of course it's the same here

actually
missouri might be worse than us but idk

those guys don't seem normal

[fair horizon]

dont you trash on missouri

[dusky burrow]

brother lived in missouri for five years before moving to wisconsin

[upbeat patio]

all these states sound like the exact same thing

[fair horizon]

wisconsin 💛

cheese

[upbeat patio]

just industry and plains

[dusky burrow]

true

oshkosh is where the us military gets a lot of their trucks

[upbeat patio]

do you know what the upcoming dlc will be about

[fair horizon]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3796290/Theater_Pack__Hearts_of_Iron_IV_Thunder_at_our_Gates/

Steam

Theater Pack - Hearts of Iron IV: Thunder at our Gates

Step into the heart of command in Thunder at Our Gates, a Theater Pack for Hearts of Iron IV. Expand on the art of organizing a campaign with new features such as military headquarters and navy captains, as well as unique new content for nations caught between rival empires; Australia, Siam and Indonesia.

Hearts of Iron IV: Thunder at Our Gat…

Price

$48.77

Release Date

Q2 2026

[upbeat patio]

oh shit this is what everyone was talking abt

i didnt even realize

[green lodge]

50 🥀

Goddamn

[upbeat patio]

looks really bland tho but im assuming there will be more

[green lodge]

Nah there won't

[fair horizon]

well thats 50 for the whole expansion pack

[drifting igloo]

:0

[upbeat patio]

no way we go from japan to siam 😭

[restive sable]

price is only set to that for now cause the only way to "buy" it is via the expansion pack

[drifting igloo]

my question is .... are we gonna get a cold war Dlc one day

[hoary glen]

Is this what happens when you “radio propaganda”

[buoyant swallow]

send those bass to the CAMPS

[fickle thicket]

we get a new czechoslovakia tree

[fickle thicket]

cold war the iron curtain:

game aint designed beyond 1946

[quasi shoal]

and it's by itself 😭

also isn't it after the siam focus dlc

[fickle thicket]

who knows what paradox is thinking

ncns was mid af

probably will be the same with this one

[quasi shoal]

nah

not really

it was pretty good

but HELLA overpriced

[azure walrus]

Clink clank 🔨

[fickle thicket]

and filled with bugs like ToA and GoE

[quasi shoal]

haven't seen any bugs

besides some stupid ai stuff

[fickle thicket]

mainly that

[quasi shoal]

ai's always gonna be stupid

they need to set aside some time fixing ai

[fickle thicket]

like 20 or 30 bucks for japan and china focus trees

not good

nobody except morons are buying ncns

[quasi shoal]

good trees

plus faction rework

and new doctrines

[fickle thicket]

yes but paradox have got to test this possibly months in advance so we dont have possibly game breaking bugs on day 1

especially at the 30 buck price point

[pseudo raven]

Gm

[fickle thicket]

mornin

even tho its midnight over here

[fair horizon]

paradox pls make australia good

[restive sable]

20 bucks would've been more reasonable honestly

30 is just absurd

[fierce galleon]

Realistically, how much money do I need to drop on dlcs to get the best experience

[pseudo raven]

Look through contet first, and buy dlcs you are interested

[fierce galleon]

alr

[pseudo raven]

I bought all

And 0 games as middle east countries

Meanwhile they have content

[junior imp]

Its not when your PC is trying to blow up

[eternal aspen]

Wsg hoi4ers?

[hoary glen]

0

[junior imp]

wsp

[molten forge]

Play em

Become Afghani

[pseudo raven]

For me they are like south America

[dusky burrow]

Basically to be mechanically similar to modern HOI4, you basically need the designer DLCs + arms against tyranny

[molten forge]

?

[dusky burrow]

i.e. by blood alone, no step back, and well, arms against tyranny

the others don't really add core features you can't find in dlc-less hoi4

[pseudo raven]

Mostly unplayable in late game

[molten forge]

Just play Portugal monarchists

[pseudo raven]

Ye they are good

[molten forge]

And how much moolah is that

[molten forge]

Access to the south and Europe

[molten forge]

Tho Albania strongest nation

[sharp sierra]

the amount of coal usa has is ridiculous lol

[pseudo raven]

I had lack of coal in middle 1941 as Soviets

[sharp sierra]

usa china and russia are all basically tied with the amount of coal reserves they have

in real life

[inland falcon]

Um... so what's supposed to stop me from taking "ensure temporary peace with China" and then just not invading the USSR

[heavy vigil]

you can do that i think

[inland falcon]

Peaceful Japan

[heavy vigil]

peaceful japan just sucks tho

you need chinese eco to be a real major

[cedar lance]

hello yalls i just bought expansion pass 2 and now have 37 dlcs in total on hoi4

[feral hedge]

Bruh I didn't realize hoi4 altered the size of the pacific islands. We were playing some kind of general knowledge competition with my friends and I asked one of them "Can you find Iwo Jima on the map?" And they didn't know do I said "It's in the pacific, roughly southeast of Japan. It's kinda circular." They searched it but couldn't find it and when I took a look I realized none of those islands in hoi4 are visible on a world map. Moreover the map was hung up on a wall and not that kinda stuff on textbooks or an atlas. They are incredibly small compared to the hoi4 map so I kinda embarrassed myself but i don't care really.

[feral hedge]

Yeah would definitely buy random tank prototype models

Of which there are many ironman compatible mods that have better alternatives

And don't get me started on the community artist packs

[atomic grove]

they are there because they were historically important

im surprised ur friend actually thought they were that huge

[heavy vigil]

theyre smaller irl yeah

[patent thistle]

spain is in pain

in more then 2 ways

[inland falcon]

oh...

didn't even have time to recover from surprise offensive 😭

[proud tapir]

i think seeing the 50% stockpile screen after a country pops is equal to crack

pure addiction

[inland falcon]

six months lol

[tawdry nebula]

Good morning guys.

[patent thistle]

dam austria was busy in vienna-

[inland falcon]

Oh. The new dlc has actually kinda nullified the panay incident

America just cannot declare the war

[pseudo raven]

Gm

It is 🔨 btw

[finite nacelle]

an actual usefull italy(and a useless geermany)

[patent thistle]

i just take the rest after ending yugo

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[pseudo raven]

Hi

[cedar lance]

wassup teto?

i bought today the hoi4 expansion pass 2

[dusky burrow]

where I live they're 20 USD so yeah, can be expensive tbh

[cedar lance]

in Europe NCNS costs 30 euros

[pseudo raven]

Proud of u

[cedar lance]

i like buying new content

[pseudo raven]

Same ~ for me on Latvia

[cedar lance]

alr

[pseudo raven]

Cool doing some sort of random stuff on cnc rn

[cedar lance]

cnc?

i bought the expansion pass 2 as early Bday gift for myself

[pseudo raven]

Computer Numerical Control

[cedar lance]

alr

[pseudo raven]

It uses programms which i made and cut wood in different shapes i told it

[cedar lance]

alr

[cedar lance]

my bday is in 5 days btw

@pseudo raven

[pseudo raven]

How old u will be?

[cedar lance]

25

[pseudo raven]

Nice number

[cedar lance]

yes alr

[undone dove]

Anyone who brings USA into war in 1940 in mp should be hanged

[patent thistle]

i have seen the UK pull in the US in an MP game in 1938 because the US player did go limited intervention

(into the faction)

[glad lake]

İ WİLLL NOT TOLERATE İTALİAN HATE

THEY BECAME MY GOOD ALLY EVERY MATCH

they FREAKİNG WON THE WAR TO THE ROYAL NAVY

[undone dove]

You're welcome

[undone dove]

Hoes

[glad lake]

GUYS HOW DO STOP THİS

[pseudo raven]

Gitgud

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-gitgud-silksong-hollowknight-gif-11555526335271834339

[glad lake]

https://tenor.com/view/sherman-tank-sherman-m4-m4sherman-stfu-gif-26740445

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-banging-shield-rahhh-thiccatina-gif-2077174781171827192

these americans are so weird

THEY PUT THEİR TROOPS ON JUST ONE SİDE

PUSH THAT ONE SİDE

THEN GET ALL OF THEİR DİVİSİONS TO THE OTHER SİDE

NO BALANCE

İ SEE ONE SİDE WİTH EVERY SİNGLE BORDER FİLED WİTH 8 DİVİSİON

AND İ SEE OTHER SİDE MAYBE 1 DİVİSİON

[tawdry nebula]

Why on full caps??

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confused-look-confused-face-funny-funny-look-gif-4850532509577233362

[glad lake]

idk

i was angry

[tawdry nebula]

Alright.

[glad lake]

İTALY OMG

HOLY

WTF İS İTALY ON

[undone dove]

They suck

[glad lake]

ahem

nobody disrespects italy anymore

[undone dove]

It's not that hard to beat them

[glad lake]

well its hard to me

[undone dove]

You didn't spam naval bombers?

[glad lake]

nah

i dont know how

[undone dove]

You should play Italy

[glad lake]

i think donald plays hoi4

hm this makes me remind of smth

[tawdry nebula]

Of Italy.

I like that they use the Piaggio 108A as Torpedo Bomber.

[undone dove]

Macchi takes the cake

[tawdry nebula]

Yes, if Macchi didn't make any Heavy Strategic Bomber.

[cedar lance]

how many ships crafts and vessels should i build produce as USA

[atomic grove]

might be the best and luckiest byzantium run ive ever had so far

[azure walrus]

how the hell does annexing the entire japanese empire only raise me from 33% to 40% world tension

🙏

[atomic grove]

they nerfed world tension from peace conferences

by a ton

[azure walrus]

😢

im not going to be able to unite europe, am i

[atomic grove]

why is that a bad thing?

u dont get 100% world tension guaranteed everytime after a peace conference now

[azure walrus]

its 1950. I am nonaligned. I needd >50% wt to justify on... anyone. Therefore, I cant get either of the last 2 achievements that I planned to get in my run

[cedar lance]

ey answer this

[azure walrus]

as many as you feel like ig

[cedar lance]

alr

[atomic grove]

oh

[cedar lance]

i do wanna build the historical ww2 ships crafts and vessels as USA

[atomic grove]

as much as u want

usa already has the amount u need

in terms of navy

[cedar lance]

alr

[atomic grove]

u could make shbbs, light cruisers, and subs

[cedar lance]

alr

i do wanna build atleast a lot of CVs aswell

as USA

ill build many more ships crafts and vessels

@atomic grove

atleast 780 to 870 and more

[atomic grove]

i dont think you're gonna be patient enough to wait that long to build that much

[cedar lance]

alr

[azure walrus]

yet once again this stupid game dangles one final chance in front of me.

If I annex this puppet of mine

Will the US come knocking

[cedar lance]

alr

[azure walrus]

?

[cedar lance]

how about 78 to 87?

btw i will use the IC command to insta build and produce stuff

@atomic grove

[azure walrus]

aint no way the US doesnt hate my guts rn

[atomic grove]

why not play ironman?

[cedar lance]

becus i dont wanna be limited in my options as USA

in SP i can do whatever

[lost dawn]

Anyone who can help me? I am clearly producing Amph tanks but my divisions are not being reinforced and the amph tank shortage is not being updated?

[azure dagger]

Guys when is south east Asia DLC is going to come out

I need sale

[lost dawn]

?

Wait. Nevermind. I found the problem

[patent thistle]

thats a 1 in a million event of italy being useful

[patent thistle]

why are you making amph tanks-

[inland falcon]

tfdym 90 manpower

[lost dawn]

Because Peru has asked for a beating.

And I do not feel like calling in ecuador

[patent thistle]

just make marines-

[lost dawn]

There are marines in the units

[patent thistle]

still is a massive waste of IC

[lost dawn]

Also... do you happen to have a good tank template?

Medium... heavy?

Anything?

Perhaps super heavy?

[patent thistle]

medium tanks are always better, as for templates i dont know i just use what works

[azure walrus]

would yall say this europe is united

[patent thistle]

no

[azure walrus]

substantial lack of luxembourg

[patent thistle]

sweden, norway, denmark, ireland, luxembourg, switzerland

also puppet states dont count so annex them

[azure walrus]

would yall say this is some kind of empire, that was formed with a bunch of conquering

[azure walrus]

luxembourg

thats my one issue

eu could be proclaimed

[azure walrus]

my american colonies btw

I have a puppet in Canada, the Guyanas united and the Caribbean islands

[patent thistle]

american colonies*

[azure walrus]

fair

still

you would think the world is full of tension,, right

[patent thistle]

austria hungary also now has colonies

because yes

[last cave]

.

[azure walrus]

WHAT THE HELL

WHY IS WORLD TENSION 30%

MY EMPIRE AND VASSALS REACH EVERY

[patent thistle]

welcome to the changes done to world tension

[azure walrus]

DARN

CONTINENT

[patent thistle]

which i do not understand

[last cave]

Every time y play ironman MD

[azure walrus]

wait

yall know how the us gets angry when someone has land in the americas

[patent thistle]

i never make acchievments anyways due to mods

[azure walrus]

if i annex my guyanan puppet state

will the us get a wargoal

or ask me to piss off and get a wargoal when i say no

[patent thistle]

first they demand to hand it over

if you dont comply they will kill you i am pretty sure

[azure walrus]

lets go

lets

fricking

go

[lost dawn]

Why did you have to split Ethiopia like that?

[atomic grove]

because u have to

otherwise ethiopia will put massive resistance in any african state

including your states too

meaning worse division speed, and possibly annoying rebellions

and higher attrition

thats why ethiopia is annoying

[wooden agate]

@pastel geode Could you answer my DM I have something pretty about video's I need to talk to you about

[mint moat]

What mod is this?

[pastel geode]

Uuuh, ok

[proud tapir]

i wonder if i join the axis as Austria, i can avoid war with Germany when they demand sudetenland. Then backstab them later

[quasi osprey]

is this ok for not a very major country

[lost dawn]

It is fine

[quasi osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/argentina-buenos-aires-argentinian-pride-argentinian-culture-argentina-vibes-gif-8697167601995397440

for argentina I think its fine

but I will try getting more

[lost dawn]

Have you taken the falklands yet?

[quasi osprey]

sadly I dont have the south american dlc

are these ok stats for an infantry division

[pseudo raven]

0 initiative

[quasi osprey]

idk what that is

[pseudo raven]

Should add signal company

[quasi osprey]

well i didnt research that yet

[pseudo raven]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/signal-company-and-initiative.938231/

I guess it is outdated

[quasi osprey]

bruh the reaction

I hope this causes a WW3 democracy barely holding on

bruh

[inland falcon]

wtf, italy in the allies

[quasi osprey]

yay WW3 now I have the chance to fight

[quasi osprey]

[jaunty basin]

hell on earth defending all those borders

[trim schooner]

Did France deserve this

[quasi osprey]

look at the fielded manpower

soviets cooked

[jaunty basin]

they shouldn't have tried increasing their trade with canada

[quasi osprey]

oh yes the great spanish american war of 1945

[lost dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/classic-back-to-the-future-bttf-marty-mcfly-ive-seen-this-one-gif-19802188

[quasi osprey]

and how can anyone forget the soviet-french war

[green lodge]

Is sikiang better or kamul khanate
i guess sikiang has easier time with communist support and great buffs but kamul seems to have a better tree post first phase

[snow rain]

It's good for holding ing

[quasi osprey]

ok

[snow rain]

It can attack in specific situations but you should avoid in general

[green lodge]

Can you guys explain why i see people put tanks in infantry divs ?
Does that make it better ?

[calm delta]

to make space marines

[snow rain]

These are spacemarines and just replace mech/cav with infantry
This makes the tanks cheaper so you can have more

[green lodge]

What's that ?

[quasi osprey]

how can I see this if I am nowhere near

[calm delta]

btw whats this new dlc gonna be about

[green lodge]

Siam 🥀

[calm delta]

infranty divson with tanks in it

[calm delta]

just siam ?

[snow rain]

It also uses the -0.3 width inf get grom doctrines

[quasi osprey]

also whats the best infantry division design for attacking

[green lodge]

25/0 if you have 1 unit

I think

I haven;t tested it yet

[snow rain]

Friendly div near

[heavy vigil]

hii francis

[tulip thorn]

no

[calm delta]

theres not really any good inf just have a inf normal template with anti air

[quasi osprey]

I dont have any there

[green lodge]

Maybe 9/0 or 16/0 ?

[snow rain]

Hi there

[quasi osprey]

oh actually I do have

[snow rain]

Allied

[calm delta]

then what else do we know about

[heavy vigil]

siam and australia afaik

[quasi osprey]

yes just noticed yugoslavian unit

[calm delta]

ahh for 30 pound thats boring

[heavy vigil]

NCNS was japan + china

[tulip thorn]

You can see the dlc details on the page lol

[calm delta]

i know and phillpenes

[snow rain]

Isnt malay and dei supposed to be incmuded?

[heavy vigil]

idk i dont remember things

[tulip thorn]

Siam, Australia and dutch east indies

Plus new mechanics

[green lodge]

Wow Navy 🙁

[calm delta]

there making more staff to naval ffs

[green lodge]

.. I don't understand how the navy works and i never will atp 🥀

[tulip thorn]

I need more navy stuff

I NEED IT

[quasi osprey]

[tulip thorn]

Us naval enjoys need more

[green lodge]

Mods burn this guy

[tulip thorn]

And better navy ai

[calm delta]

they keep chaning it when im learning the diff bit of it

[quasi osprey]

I am not even buying oil from them

[green lodge]

NO WAY..

[calm delta]

ffs

[tulip thorn]

ai is just so bad at navy

[calm delta]

idc

[green lodge]

NOONONONONO

[calm delta]

its annyoing

[tulip thorn]

navy is so easy

[green lodge]

It's too good

[quasi osprey]

why block me if I dont buy from them idk

[tulip thorn]

in simple terms, Light attack and aircraft carrier

[green lodge]

I wish you could disable navy

[calm delta]

its annyoing to keep learnning shit

[snow rain]

It's whamt keeps a game alive and fun

[tulip thorn]

Why

Navy is fun

Once you understand

[snow rain]

Otherwise you'd be playing hoi2 still

[tulip thorn]

Its so easy

[green lodge]

They keep naval invading me

[calm delta]

at this point im gonna just play hoi4 without the dlcs i got

[tulip thorn]

So many people just dont want to learn a simple navy mechanic smh

[green lodge]

So many people just want to have fun smh

[snow rain]

That's not navy, garrison your ports

[patent thistle]

peruvian navy, totally not bought ships (that mod i once said was made by my friend which he would execute me for for revealing)

[green lodge]

Oh yeah, good point

[tulip thorn]

Its not any more difficult than learning planes or tanks or anything else

[calm delta]

beacuse there constanly changing it

[tulip thorn]

Very little changed

Nothing has really changed

[quasi osprey]

paris is about to fall........

[green lodge]

EXPLAIN IT RN

[tulip thorn]

All they did was change how supremacy works

[green lodge]

PLEASE

[calm delta]

i dont like how they changed supremeacy

[green lodge]

WHAT DOES EACH SHIP DO AND WHAT DO I NEED TO BUILD

[patent thistle]

premission granted to kill every Fr*nch person

[tulip thorn]

If you understood navy before, you can understand it now

[calm delta]

hmm

[green lodge]

EXPLAIN ! 🙁