hoi4-general

[crisp wyvern]

Mainly because every mod I want to try out is up to date to the recent version of the game

[molten forge]

the fact am in 1946 already

[pseudo raven]

Ask for license from ai

[crisp wyvern]

I ended up forming the achaemenid empire by 1947 as iran

[pseudo raven]

Yes it would be a crap

But atleast something

[pseudo raven]

No spies recruited in germany?

[molten forge]

i had

just did rescue mission

[pseudo raven]

Got it

U can destabilize germany with spies

If u are lucky enough

And ai haven't overbuffed it's agency

Actually I want to do smth like puppet India carrying france

[molten forge]

gonna prep a bunch of intel to destabilise

[eternal palm]

Loyalist India is basically a major

So yea you can do that

[molten forge]

do you guys think am a major

[pseudo raven]

I am thinking between proper med tank divs

[eternal palm]

Don't

U have so much manpower

Make use of it

[pseudo raven]

Or heavy aa + med flamethrowers
Spacemarines

[eternal palm]

That's not the smartest idea

[pseudo raven]

I think proper tanks are more Canada or South Africa thing

Any advice what i should rush as India?

In focuses

[eternal palm]

Uh no

Tank minors aren't real

They don't have any eco or good mios

I have no idea where this idea comes from

Tank minors are shit

[pseudo raven]

I have seen it as mp strat for allies

Thought for single player it's same

[eternal palm]

Get rid of depression, get manpower, get war support

[molten forge]

how many nuclear reactors

[eternal palm]

Yea and its stupid

No comp lobby ever does that

And no bokoen1 isn't a comp lobby

He's playing a shit larp mod

Where IC is spread so thin USSR can afford air

[ionic sun]

im hoping for a mp game today and not too modded

[molten forge]

so how many nuclear reactors

[eternal palm]

?

[molten forge]

how many should i get

[eternal palm]

Yea not gonna happen here

[woven gate]

i must find out how to play Japan in hoi4

[eternal palm]

Why are you asking me

[molten forge]

cus why not

[eternal palm]

I don't care

Don't ping me

[woven gate]

can i cheap out on army and just go full navy

[loud notch]

so many spies

[pseudo raven]

Nukes sucks

[molten forge]

i dont got much else todo

[pseudo raven]

Than get like 10 maximum

[molten forge]

alr

ngl tho irl these things scared humans here they just get used

[sudden thistle]

nukes look cool

and that means its good

[molten forge]

imagine being a hoi4 citizen hearing a random ass african nation started throwing nukes at you

[woven gate]

i need help with Japan

[prime totem]

yooo hello guys

[loud notch]

hi

[pseudo raven]

Hi

[pseudo raven]

Shiny stuff

[prime totem]

yo anyone wanna play multiplayer?

[pseudo raven]

0_o

[pseudo raven]

nah

[sudden thistle]

ok now im starting ur challenge

set all the AI paths to fascism

historical bastion of democracy

[molten forge]

maxing out cryptology department

[pseudo raven]

am I good doing hevy early aa

for holding

france

[lost dawn]

At this point I am just having fun

Listening to Toto while going on a Safari

Classic

[molten forge]

how can i send a nuke to berlin to show a message

[pseudo raven]

idk they reworked it

in latest updates

[molten forge]

forgot to get a nuclear sub

nvm strategic bomber

[sudden thistle]

the atom symbol

[upbeat vector]

The drip panzer 1 is... omfg its real!!!

[sudden thistle]

saw this

waiting to see it go

[agile perch]

unc is alive still

[upbeat vector]

The drippanzer 1-2000 top speed: 200kph
Weapons: drip and musik

[pseudo raven]

India

[sudden thistle]

i have unironcially seen someone do a heavy tank india

it was peak

[pseudo raven]

i though to do this

but it's mp strats

so doing heavy spacemarines

[sudden thistle]

dont forget to battleplan burma with those

[pseudo raven]

i am doing pupet focuses

and will cary france

[fossil dragon]

just finished my 10h PRC game

[steel zephyr]

may be a good time to jump the soviets

aside from petrograd, rest of the border isnt manned much

only these

[snow rain]

please tell me those aren't cavalry divs

also you won't hold anything with this little divs, they'll push through in a week

[fossil dragon]

not if they are good divs like 30W

[snow rain]

yes they will

because 30w isn't good to hold

well it is good, but 2 15w would be better

it will get overwhelmed

[fossil dragon]

i just go whit 18W and it works fine

[snow rain]

yes, that's good

[steel zephyr]

level 5 forts there, also 6 divs now around leningrad

[snow rain]

but a single div will not hold 8 attacking constantly

[steel zephyr]

and these are big divs

[fossil dragon]

why u need radio company

waste of manpower

[snow rain]

you'll only be able to squeeze 2-3 in combat
they're too big for their purpose to be fair

also, radio is a waste of a slot and ic, you need rangers and the ski company in there

[steel zephyr]

yeah im not too convinced by my support setup rn but mp and equipment in surplus

[snow rain]

WHY

that's just a pure waste of industry

a single lvl 5 fort is 500+1000+1500+2000+2500 ic = 7500ic which is an entire mil

[pseudo raven]

i love this mechanic

[snow rain]

you wasted 8mils worth of ic there

and it doesn't even matterif you didn't build static AA or an airforce because it'll get bombed into the ground

[fossil dragon]

well if you play defense it's fine up to lvl 2 just to get rid of enemys bonuses

[lost dawn]

It seems.. I may have forgotten about something

[snow rain]

the use then would be fore you to get defence bonus of engineers
but then again a lvl 2 fort is 500+1000 ic = 1500 ic

nothing compared to the 7500 of lvl 5

[steel zephyr]

wish me luck 😭

[fossil dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-captain-america-salute-gif-12849404

[snow rain]

those underequipped divs, no manpower and no garrisons

pray they're too distracted to naval invade

[steel zephyr]

a lot of equipment its just manpower for now 😢

got to meta it out

[snow rain]

to be completely honest, you should disband all ships but the pride of the fleet, all airforce since it sucks and use your pp for manpower and manpower-generating advisors
also, I hope you have armored trains because you're gonna need it if you want supply

and use your XP already, please

coal is also down the drain like halfway

that's a 80% build speed penality right there

[pseudo raven]

to who u are writing it?

[snow rain]

anyone who builds forts without thinking of bombers in the sky

[steel zephyr]

woah

[pseudo raven]

fighters on interception

[sudden thistle]

ah yes

the finnish fighters

[snow rain]

these won't last

you'll lose the manpower from it

[pseudo raven]

soviet aviation can't do shi

[snow rain]

they won't do anything as soon as 100 sov fighters pull up

[inland niche]

I love this game

[sonic ridge]

Hello is anyone interested here?
A friend suggested to me i can sell my premium gold card here on discord server please message me privately so you can negotiate okay

[rose egret]

my career profile says on "modded" i did wc with soviet union but i dont remember doing it so can it be a bug?

[steel zephyr]

had to give up petsamo but norway also joined in

[molten forge]

lets go gambling

[light tendon]

damn

[molten forge]

doing ya a little dirty

[coral gorge]

the age of cavalry has returned

[molten forge]

ngl nukes should help with capitulation

also sending one to Roma

[upbeat vector]

They... they in fact do

They lower victory point or score thingmabob

[pseudo raven]

not worst scenario

[slim nexus]

I CAN DESIGN TANKS IN THIS GAME WHAT??!!!

[oak bison]

with no step back, yes u can 😭

[upbeat vector]

Been years

[steel zephyr]

whoopsie...

[slim nexus]

I am not even on the ice berg yet then

[upbeat vector]

No not even on the top

Things that ive seen in the mods for hoi4

[molten forge]

wb the fact ww2 is still going in 1950

[upbeat vector]

The templates that ive seen

[upbeat vector]

Do i look like i am playing on your save?

[molten forge]

what do nukes do more exactly

[upbeat vector]

Do i look like ik wtf you did so it last until the 50s

Answer my questions first

[steel zephyr]

comeback?!

[upbeat vector]

They destroy and make everything miserable in that tile

[steel zephyr]

comeback 🤤

[upbeat vector]

I am talking -30% buffs for everything

[molten forge]

oh well, fun enough

[upbeat vector]

On top of lowering victory score needed to cap

[coral gorge]

hmmmm

[upbeat vector]

And thats not all, cause you know losing -30% factories and everything in a state is kinda mid

[coral gorge]

fk

I need to go to war to the Allies

well

might as well

[upbeat vector]

Troop movement and everything is also put to the trash

[molten forge]

gonna bomb iran

[umbral agate]

how did this happen

[slim nexus]

From lend lease

[umbral agate]

i sent 10k

not 1 billion

[main raptor]

maybe editing templates

all at the same time

[molten forge]

mf gave the whole modern pop of china guns

[upbeat vector]

Tf shitass template is gonna send 1 billion guns to heaven

Like the hell

[steel zephyr]

progress yo

[main raptor]

lmao idk if he has plenty of divs with 100 combat width or plus

[upbeat vector]

Even then, youd need like 500 million people in the fields

Or like 250 million like insane numbers you know

[main raptor]

yeah

[upbeat vector]

That junk is basically impossible lets be real

Youd need to control to entire map if not cored

[main raptor]

idk man maybe "squeezing the last of the remains" recruitment law with USSR

[light tendon]

is this tank good?

[main raptor]

id put more engine

[molten forge]

ngl i think am done with the save am on, am just nuking berlin and roma atp

[upbeat vector]

Blocked

[light tendon]

advanced heavy cannon would be better right

[upbeat vector]

Yeah well the one that is like a modern high velocity gun but for mbt

See what i mean

@light tendon DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN

[slim nexus]

As a no life looser i see this as an absolute win

[light tendon]

dk what thatr means

ngl

[upbeat vector]

Omfg gabi

Wrong ping

Doesnt matter

[light tendon]

whats mbt gng

[upbeat vector]

Main battle tank

[light tendon]

oh

so i should use howitzer

i already won kinda

[slim nexus]

Ight

[upbeat vector]

You entering the modern era with that tank design and you want a gun the suits the design and you proabbly have unlocked the heavy gun you need for the job

[upbeat vector]

TF IS THAT TEMPLATE

[light tendon]

?

it works

[wind meteor]

mb i did a lil too much

[upbeat vector]

You dont understand the suffering

[main raptor]

ive never nuked anything in HOI IV, cause ive only played historical idk

[tepid fog]

How to nuke someone

[main raptor]

I got 400+ hours in-game btw

[coral gorge]

aight, almost there

soon

[steel zephyr]

uh oh

[tepid fog]

I have planes but I dont know how to nuke someone

[main raptor]

get the phisics emplacement

[tepid fog]

ca someone help me

[tepid fog]

tf is that

[main raptor]

when building stuff

you got 4 social emplacements

special*

[upbeat vector]

I nuked Nottingham like 3 times

[main raptor]

the tank-army one, the aero one, the naval one and the phisics

[upbeat vector]

In a playtrought to vaporize the british airforce

[tepid fog]

I already built the nuke facility and researched this

[upbeat vector]

There was... nothing left of nottingham

💔 💔 💔

[tepid fog]

see I have on

[molten forge]

i am on historical

[tepid fog]

But I dont know how to use

[slim nexus]

What suffering

[upbeat vector]

You need to have a buomber and do a nuclear air rade on the target

[upbeat vector]

There should be an option the right corner for it

Yessss

[tepid fog]

Bomber plane

[upbeat vector]

YEEESSS

[tepid fog]

what small airframe medium or big

[upbeat vector]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[molten forge]

idk am dlcless sadly

[upbeat vector]

Blocked

[upbeat vector]

Words cannot explain the torture of some mods

Playing two sicily in kaiserreich is basically cbt

Thats what it is

[slim nexus]

A loser like me could never handle such responsibility

[upbeat vector]

But at the same time i like playing smaller nations cause its more challenging

Its like i am a sadomasochist

[upbeat vector]

Im like: this shit sucks but i like it

😎

[lost dawn]

It is lowkey over for the Axis

[molten forge]

i still have access to nukes

[upbeat vector]

Omg...

[coral gorge]

Mongol Empire restored

[molten forge]

?

[steel zephyr]

petsamo almost back

[slim nexus]

Khabarovsk bombb

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/997853345219874937/1395432938430136340/caption.gif

[molten forge]

btw is there any chance to kill a leader using a bomb

[slim nexus]

Idk

Am gonna liberate siberia, balkanize india, puppet africas

[molten forge]

am africa tho

the africans nuking the Axis rn

[upbeat vector]

NOT THE VATICAN

[sudden thistle]

Why is ur AI so stupid

[molten forge]

Budapest next

[upbeat vector]

Hoi4 ai is stupid

[upbeat vector]

Why dont you use them for winning

[molten forge]

bcs i dont know how

[upbeat vector]

Instead of nuking capitals for no reasons

[upbeat vector]

Lmap

[molten forge]

+i only wanted to make sure no culture is left by removing the capitals

[mental mantle]

How do I chop down a tree in Minecraft?

[tepid fog]

I cant integrate Belgium and revive the Holy Roman Empire. Can someone help me

[mental mantle]

Demolish ypur pc

[upbeat vector]

First you want to download 7zip, that will allow you to unzip files of various formats

[sudden thistle]

did u make an RK out of them

[tepid fog]

whats that

[upbeat vector]

Then you play minecraft

[sudden thistle]

gonna take that as a no

[molten forge]

quick question, how do i declare on argentina as a democratic nation

[upbeat vector]

Make sure to use your feet to press the gas pedal when you are near a tree

[tepid fog]

It says they are personal union

[upbeat vector]

Ram it hard

[coral gorge]

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-that's-the-neat-part-you-don't-gif-14180388429135427516

[upbeat vector]

If lucky the tree gonna fall

[woven gate]

i think i've found a problem as japan

european armies are given some insane ability to get high K/D ratios when i do more and have good templates

[molten forge]

what if i stage a coup

then the demo side joins the allies

[tepid fog]

Isnt there a way

[sudden thistle]

ur cooked bud

[steel zephyr]

crazy amount of soviets, americans and mexicans in kola

well not that crazy but for kola it is

for me atleast

[tepid fog]

I have 2000 factories lol

but I cant make the EU or the Roman Empire

[steel zephyr]

closing in on kola now

[woven gate]

if you can take murmansk, the whole peninsula will crash

[steel zephyr]

almost there

once kola falls thats a whole 18 divs of mine freed up

they abandoned murmansk ☠️

[steel zephyr]

nvm it was out of view lol

[molten forge]

in 1954 argentinian civil war

[steel zephyr]

so focused on kola i accidently left a gap down south

[knotty vortex]

HELL YEAH

[viscid sleet]

What's the best fighter design?
Max engines and Max guns? Or is the meta something else

[steel zephyr]

looks like murmansk is gonna be the last one standing

[coral gorge]

[viscid sleet]

is this ok or nah?

[coral gorge]

too expensive

use single engine

spare thrust doesn't actually help that much, it just balloons the cost for very little gain in agility

[woven gate]

or just blitz past it

that's how i play japan

take as much land as you can, leaving garrisons to hold down local troops in fortified towns and cities

[coral gorge]

[pseudo raven]

international human wave

[molten forge]

where should i drop 10 nukes

[coral gorge]

oh, they took Crimea

I did not intend for this to happen

releasing Ukraine and others from Soviets was certainly not for this

I just wanted borders

[eternal palm]

Welp tough luck

if u release smth as a personal union u cant annex it

[eternal palm]

only via special event

which I dont think Germany gets

[eternal palm]

What in the fk

[pseudo raven]

KEKW

works fine

[viscid sleet]

thanks, radio or nah?

[pseudo raven]

Germany suffers allot

[steel zephyr]

once troops from eastern kola return im just gonna rush it

there we go, 15 divs freed up

[coral gorge]

holy sheet this is so fked

I am trying to send more guns to Russia but I don't think they can hold this

I can't send enough guns

[tawdry nebula]

Restarted my Japan run.

[knotty vortex]

why does regional council of aragon have all of its troops disappear at the end of the civil war

[junior imp]

3 Encirclements

at the same time

36+13+50=99

99 divisions

[junior imp]

ALMOST 800K MEN DEAD

HOLY SHIT

[sudden thistle]

THIS IS THE 3RD DAMN TIME MY SAVE DISSAPEARED

[dusky burrow]

Rate my new encirclement (it's just Hungary)

[woven gate]

good idea

[sudden thistle]

bro i wanna play sheeps but i dont wanna make a 3rd germany save

[woven gate]

just inf and heavy tanks?

no mot/mech?

[main raptor]

that 234 divs 🥲

[sudden thistle]

why would u make divs for those as sovs

[woven gate]

funny

and fast

[heavy vigil]

trying silly things

[slim nexus]

I got cooked by belgium

[coral gorge]

tf countries just keep joining the Allies to fight Russia

I am not producing enough guns to send to Russia

[heavy vigil]

also sheep instead of splitting the ussr up you can make them go fascist and force the breakaway events

it gives the new nations an army so its better for larp :3

[coral gorge]

idk, they already have an army

[heavy vigil]

like kazakhstan and stuff

[coral gorge]

better than the trash army that breakaways get, honestly

[heavy vigil]

also most of their starting mp is hoarded by the ussr army

[coral gorge]

breakaways cannot create new template

[heavy vigil]

they can

[coral gorge]

they can now?

[heavy vigil]

they inherit ussr templates

[coral gorge]

ok, good for them

[heavy vigil]

or romania is possible too

or poland

for belarus/ukraine

czech technically possible too for ukr

[steel zephyr]

w arkhangelsk rush

[coral gorge]

didn't know breakaway event chain would happen simply by flipping them though

not that it matters,

[heavy vigil]

you can force the event without civil war too

[coral gorge]

breakaway event chains spawn locked templates anyway

[heavy vigil]

yeah

which is sad

[coral gorge]

so pointless

your suggestion is going to be forwarded to the 😢

since it doesn't matter anyhow

[heavy vigil]

lol

[coral gorge]

sadge

that said

for the longest time they couldn't actually create new templates

since AI cannot duplicate locked temps

and breakaways only had the locked temp

[heavy vigil]

itd prob be fun to have like some ahist larp with the breakaways with them being able to fight back a bit without intervention, tho i havent been able to make the ai do that

[fair horizon]

eat them

[coral gorge]

wait

how do you even force the breakaway event chain

it has soviet civil war as the check

[heavy vigil]

ill get the events for you one sec

[heavy vigil]

set_var SOV_nationalist_country KAR
then
event NSB_soviet_nationalist.001

[coral gorge]

why tf does it even matter to me

I am on ironman

[heavy vigil]

KAR can be any tag

[coral gorge]

I can use the console for that just fine

[heavy vigil]

idk ive had some fun with it the past days because i like silly things

i dont think you can force it in ironman? i could be wrong

[coral gorge]

you can't

you need soviet civil war to be active to initiate the first event

well, it can work if like

you kill both Soviet/Russian splinters during their civil war in one go

so they can't clear the flag for civil war

but I don't think the soviet is exile check is satisfied anyhow

not simply through flipping their ideologies

[dusky burrow]

Breakaway?

[steel zephyr]

murmansk method reused on vologda

hi @dusky burrow, guess what

another finland game as usual

no faction

[heavy vigil]

russian fascist/monarchist civil war allows nations like kazakhstan, belarus, ukraine, komi, chechnya, armenia to break free

[coral gorge]

this is sad

[heavy vigil]

i havent tested but it might just be any tag SOV owns

it works on FER which ive never seen break away naturally (because they core Chita)

[rapid furnace]

what to build in civil war

[coral gorge]

on-going or for preparation?

[rapid furnace]

prep

[heavy vigil]

land facility is always good

[rapid furnace]

do i do these fouces

[heavy vigil]

you have to do the top one to get enough support if you wanna go fascist

[rapid furnace]

trying to rush black 100s

[heavy vigil]

the rest is fine after civwar

[rapid furnace]

doing this

is concentrated or dispersed better

[coral gorge]

you can build supply hubs if you want to slug it through the traditional way (no changing div to cheese)

[cursive flint]

how to get high compliance?

[steel zephyr]

3way faction war in europe

anything for the supply

🤤

[coral gorge]

lmao

[steel zephyr]

rail

[tepid ginkgo]

Who actually did the tutorials?

[rapid furnace]

the first moscow trial

[steel zephyr]

w front

[normal mortar]

where are u from

[steel zephyr]

the people i give millitary accesss to just fighting each other 🌹

very nice

[prime totem]

WHAT AM I SEEING

...

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-better-call-saul-saul-goodman-saul-sweep-titans-gif-21970301

[steel zephyr]

now we just got to wait for the states to fall 😢

[rapid furnace]

do i kill chang

@steel zephyr

[woven gate]

probably not

[rapid furnace]

oops

[steel zephyr]

british landing, hopefully they kill america soon

so that i can annex soviet

[prime totem]

yo does anyone here play among us

[blazing nova]

🇳🇺

Manchukuo if it was British

[steel zephyr]

finns in vinland...

[vivid juniper]

This was painful, but worth it

[finite plume]

🙏

[trail gate]

is this cool

they dont want me to take paris

[tender stump]

I be liking that trade

[trim lotus]

I can't be the only one to have an ahistorical war spiral out into a "and then somebody hands me a cheese sandwich" moment. I just wanted to stop communist Mexico from conquering central America, and now I'm with France, India, and multiple communist colonies fighting the USSR, communist Britain, Italy and Pakistan... and then Japan begins justifying against me.

[vivid juniper]

I was trying to do democratic Germany once and I ended up in faction with a bunch of fascists

[snow rain]

that's exactly what ahist truns into every game basically

[tender stump]

I have that in historical wars as well.
I am playing historical germany rn, should be rather basic but stalin decided to randomly declare war on free france and got his ass kicked by the US invading in krimea leading me to have to save the soviet union so I can invade them later without the allies with their suicide charges getting all the VPs

[steel zephyr]

crud

yeah ok

disaster save it is

[lost dawn]

What is a good template for paratroopers?

[tender stump]

depends on your paratrooper tactics

what you using them for?

[lost dawn]

I need them to hold supply depots while my army advances to their position

[tender stump]

I usually go with this however I have a mod that allows for more support units so idk how well their stats are if I only have one line

lemme see rq

[lost dawn]

Cost is not a problem

I just need them to hold no matter what

[tender stump]

I'd say this can work with 471 defense.
If you want more defense and are willing to have them have less piercing replace the AT with MP as that will increase defense by a hundred and will give them more recovery rate

If you expect them to take a lot of losses replace it with field hospital

[vital cove]

36 width block of paratroopers

[dusky burrow]

also make it more like 36 width

[gaunt narwhal]

anyone wanna duo kaisserredux

[lost dawn]

Can I use super heavy artillery instead of regular artillery?

[tender stump]

can't be dropped

[gaunt narwhal]

I'm looking for just a duo game

[lost dawn]

Sad

[lost dawn]

Can I add more paratroopers?

[tender stump]

ofc you can you will just need more planes and the supply consumption is gonna go up

[lost dawn]

Best combat width to use then?

Just 20?

[leaden wraith]

more releasables for the releasables god

[lost dawn]

I am looking to end China and need them to hold the supply depots

[tender stump]

I have them at 20 as that can fit pretty much anywhere comfortably but I was never that cracked at determining meta combat width so not sure maybe 36 is better as many people talked about that.

[finite plume]

I think I nuked bro too hard 😭

[amber zealot]

why china got so many divisions

this was at the very start of the war

[lost dawn]

I have had to deal with a lot of divisions aswell

can make for quite a satisfying clean up

[amber zealot]

bro😭

1961 bruh

[lost dawn]

It is 1963 now.

[tender stump]

meh

[lost dawn]

My fronts are bogged down

[tender stump]

I had games till 2076 and so on

[amber zealot]

what do you even do

[vital cove]

china starts with 80 divisions that have together enough equipment for 25 divisions

[tender stump]

I take about 10 years to finish one war as I micromanage everything

every single troop movement I micromanage and then I just wait months to observe and determine the best next move

[lost dawn]

I've had Germany, Great Britain (with France), a largely unified China, Soviet union, Japan, Sweden and Italy all in the Axis fighting me since the early 40s.

I am not that good..

It has just taken me some time to get the upper hand

[past fog]

Looks like TNO

[tender stump]

also there is this...

lvl 10 naval forts in every single tile of the atlantikwall all the way up to norway (had I taken it over which I didn't, instead I went for sweden which went smooth and gave me much more ressources)

[lethal ether]

once uk and soviets capped germany just feels boring to me

[amber zealot]

why dont you invade your remaining enemies

[tender stump]

building up a navy to cross the atlantic currently

[lethal ether]

what year is it

[tender stump]

meh I had the "luck" that stalin declared war on the allies and I thus had to not only pup cheap inter war infantry equipment en-mas into his army but also had to fight in the east much earlier than I would've liked. By now I pushed from crimea all the way to the border between india and burma and now have to go through china.

[lethal ether]

what year is it

[oak mantle]

Are you fr building up forts against the ai vro

[lethal ether]

i think u shouldve had a navy already

[tender stump]

for the fun of it

I had civs and no clue what to do with em (also allows me to not worry too much about accidentally tunnel-vision-ing)

[oak mantle]

Build more mils

Or switch back to civs

[lethal ether]

or more dockyards

[oak mantle]

Ew navy

[lethal ether]

how is he supposed to invade america

teleportation?

[oak mantle]

paradroopers or smth idk

[lost dawn]

That's a nice little encirclement

[sharp sierra]

dont worry the kuomintang government wont have a third research slot till 1941

chinas easier now

[lethal ether]

i think you have the worst unit icon

😔

[lost dawn]

What do you mean? The double rifle looks good!

[sharp sierra]

quirky rifleman icon

[rapid furnace]

all i have to say is he got to paranoid

[lost dawn]

Did not expect them to collapse to quickly

Not after everything

[icy lion]

Guys i was playing as france, and germany declared war, and its still 1936. We didnt even start fighting and then the gsme think i won

[amber zealot]

I think thats a result of the decision you get after they remilitarize the rhineland

you prolly chose the one that declared war

[rich valve]

Just don‘t Play as France

[icy lion]

Yeah i did but what caused the game to change there was no combat at all

[pseudo raven]

Navy actually is cool thing to learn

[iron bay]

I spam subs and pray

[pseudo raven]

Skibidi sanma is back?

[lost dawn]

They are the enemy

[pseudo raven]

That's re Ew

[pseudo raven]

Still skibidi san ma

[stoic dew]

https://tenor.com/view/diamond-sparkling-gem-precious-gif-14466898

[pseudo raven]

So little progress

[lost dawn]

I bet Hitler must be rather nervous in his bunker right about now

[pseudo raven]

Is your pc doing fine with game speed

[lost dawn]

It is slow... but not crashed yet

It is manageable

as if I had put it on 3 speed

[pseudo raven]

Oh that's why it feels like no progress

[pseudo raven]

Actually capp more countries to make game faster

[paper echo]

what kind of axis is this?

how are they still alive

[lost dawn]

Not for very long

[pseudo raven]

Less divs less focuses less calculations for game

[paper echo]

make sure to balkanise EVERY axis member

[pseudo raven]

So overall Siberia wasn't best option even for tech reasons

[lost dawn]

I will annex all lands

[paper echo]

giving freedom?

[lost dawn]

Global Manifest Destiny

[pseudo raven]

How about creating kosovo and giving it all balkans

[lost dawn]

I will puppet the Netherlands and give them the benelux and london

[pseudo raven]

Didn't get point of giving them London

But 100%yes

[lost dawn]

The Dutch and English have a historic rivalry

[paper echo]

how about you give the whole world to albania

[lost dawn]

4 Anglo-Dutch wars...

We stole the English flag ship

You know

[pseudo raven]

Basic thing in Europe

[lost dawn]

Yes

War

[pseudo raven]

To much of history

[pseudo raven]

Wars*

Probably

[lost dawn]

They have almost entirely abandoned the front in France

[pseudo raven]

Do not push encircle it

[lost dawn]

I have had too many encirclements

[pseudo raven]

To make easier life for your pc

[lost dawn]

I just want the war to end

Will still have to invade Japan though

[pseudo raven]

Do huge encirclement

[lost dawn]

[pseudo raven]

Like divide France on vertical

[lost dawn]

Once I have taken over Britain

I will make them brush their teeth

[torn rampart]

whats the best subdoctorine for infantry

[pseudo raven]

Large units or how it was called

Reducing combat width

[torn rampart]

ah

alr

[woven gate]

i heard large unit tactics but i like shock infantry or whatever it's called

assault infantry i think

idk i'm not a meta player

[paper echo]

i use fire concentration assault infantry and grand assault (or desperate defense depending on how much manpower ill have)

i basically use anything that buffs artillery and soft attack

[woven gate]

typa shit i do

but recently i find myself shifting from line arty to big infantry pushes with air

[paper echo]

now i also put line artillery and my units are buffed

and if you combine that with enough cas its a blender

[woven gate]

launch one massive offensive at a time and immediately redeploy reserves to defensible positions while planning another

this is gonna be my strat for Japan

[lost dawn]

@pseudo raven

They may have actually given up

[pseudo raven]

I guess 0 manpower make their divs dissappear at some point

[lost dawn]

True

[lost dawn]

That... and I am pushing from 5 fronts

[pseudo raven]

Focus on caucas and Romania

To get axis suffer even more

[lost dawn]

HOW

how did Belgium have so many rifles

[pseudo raven]

Basic minor nations

Their ai produce crap divs but lots of equipment

[rapid furnace]

GG

[pseudo raven]

Where is Vladivostok?

[rapid furnace]

gave it to japan cus i misclicked

[pseudo raven]

Kekw

That's why u should read decisions

Atleast twice sometimes

[rapid furnace]

i mean i did know it will give it to japan i just accdendentally clicked it

[worn coral]

prc op

[dusky burrow]

Probably because they don't have the people to use them

[violet hedge]

Someone should add an option for the Ottomans to core the Caucasus/get a puppet on it

They used to control it for a long time and even occupied it during WW1

It would be cool

[lost dawn]

I may be in deep trouble

the middle east...

bane of the USA

[dusky burrow]

Yeah true

[dusky burrow]

btw what's the infantry template

[violet hedge]

Also someone should do something about that one island off the coast of Qatar

Is it Bahrain?

Or Manama

You can NEVER get that

[worn coral]

i made a small navy for prc

[violet hedge]

Please add a land bridge or something to kt

[lost dawn]

It is not the best I geuss

[worn coral]

usa has small navy

prc reigns superior

[lost dawn]

But it has allowed me to wint the game .... for the most part

[lost dawn]

I just hope this is in game

[worn coral]

look

[lost dawn]

1936..... no ironman

I see

[worn coral]

yes

prc>literally everyone

[lost dawn]

I am more of a USA fan myself

[worn coral]

does usa have 1050 nuclear submarines?

and 225 super heavy battleships?

[lost dawn]

Did the US cheat in their fleet?

[worn coral]

in late 1936?

[lost dawn]

[worn coral]

how dare you accuse of prc cheat

[lost dawn]

No lies at my table

[tepid crown]

Yeah. Line artillery 🤮

[lost dawn]

And anti-tank

Idk

this template has helped me conquer most of the axis during this game

[meager valley]

What doctrines did you use

[lost dawn]

Idk

[meager valley]

Mad important for line arty.

Some buff them a lot

[lost dawn]

Look... it is time for me to sleep

Perhaps I will continue beating the axis tomorrow

[ember vine]

My favorite HoI4 feature is that you can exit game

[viscid sleet]

hey question for yall

when you arent in war or in war, does high levels of attrition consume equipment?

[oak mantle]

yes

[viscid sleet]

how do you limit that?

[oak mantle]

not attrition

[viscid sleet]

so spread out troops further whilst in the east parts of russia? upgrade rails to get equipment there quicker?

[oak mantle]

or just dont put divisions in siberia

[viscid sleet]

i have to

[oak mantle]

why

[viscid sleet]

japan and chian declare war with me straight away

[oak mantle]

motorise your supply hubs

[coral gorge]

I sent so many shjt to Russia

they actually held

[viscid sleet]

so ill finish this in a couple of days then they declare on me, maybe give up territory so they suffer attrition?

yeah i motorise hubs and the armies

[coral gorge]

☠️

[oak mantle]

sheep whens the mod getting updated vro

[coral gorge]

well whenever I think the test version is good enough

[oak mantle]

fair

[coral gorge]

oh Russian counteroffensive is working

[viscid sleet]

so i got russia, and japan and china will attack, should i let them take most of eastern russia and set up a defencive live closer to all the infrastructure?

[coral gorge]

lmao all the remaining fascist countries are supporting commie Russia fight against Allies

just because they hate Allies ig

[oak mantle]

well youll eventually have to fight in siberia again so why not just attack rn and try reach some supply hubs in manchuko

[viscid sleet]

i could set up a line like this, upgrade all the rails, let the japs and chinese come it then surround them?

then murder all their troops and have a easy walk to japan?

[coral gorge]

3 years have passed by...

millions have perished

😢

[worn coral]

the world shall be painted red.

long live mao zedong the founder of our nation!

[vital trellis]

Early game 1936-1937
How can i improve this division?

[dusky burrow]

russia with no astrakhan

hmmmm

[dusky burrow]

You have a port in Nenetsia?

[heavy vigil]

liv whats your fav country and fav releasable?

[vital trellis]

Guys?

[surreal mist]

Remove 4 inf

[vital trellis]

You sure? I heard 30-36 width is better

[surreal mist]

for attacking

[vital trellis]

Yeah, which is what i'll do as the USSR no?

[surreal mist]

then add 9 more and do large unit tactics doctrine

[vital trellis]

Should i also add support anti-air and tank recon?

@surreal mist

[worn coral]

oh my god

what am i looking at 😭

[dusky burrow]

It's 40 width which is a problem

and yes add aa and tank recon

[worn coral]

why recon?

its not worth it

[dusky burrow]

in this case breakthrough

[worn coral]

hes only using support arty

[dusky burrow]

guy has 66.6 breakthrough which means they will get critted by infantry

[worn coral]

and he prob doesnt havem much equipment since hes playing sov un

[dusky burrow]

Soviet Union can definitely afford it

[worn coral]

depends

[dusky burrow]

Of course depends on the date

[worn coral]

maybe he didnt build industry

[dusky burrow]

Yeah definitely a problem

[worn coral]

exactly

[dusky burrow]

but yeah the biggest problem with div is that it's 40 width

[worn coral]

@vital trellis how many mils you have?

also

[vital trellis]

34

[dusky burrow]

Soviet Union has a lot of forests, and with 40 width you'd be attacking/defending with only one division in each battle

[worn coral]

only keep a 3x3 square of infantry

[worn coral]

what date

[vital trellis]

As of now late 1938, but i just began spam building factories

[dusky burrow]

Okay that makes sense

[vital trellis]

I usually build civs in 1936-1937 and build mils in 1938-1941

[worn coral]

are you playing historical?

[vital trellis]

Yeah

[worn coral]

dude

[vital trellis]

?

[worn coral]

change the infantry into a 3x3 square

[dusky burrow]

Nah

[worn coral]

the one u made is too expensive and inneficient

[dusky burrow]

They have 3 years to build factories

[worn coral]

still

not worth it

[vital trellis]

Why is it inefficient?

[worn coral]

too much width

[vital trellis]

Ok

[worn coral]

get it to 18

[vital trellis]

Are you sure the normal 3x3 which i start with is good?

[worn coral]

make a offensive mountaineer for him

[worn coral]

yes

perfect for holding

ur gonna make another thing for offensives

livadeia is gonna help you

[dusky burrow]

Also precisely

[worn coral]

dont rely reavily on tanks

by the time he gets his industry ready barbarossa will be too close or already started

[dusky burrow]

I mean you can definitely do a lot with tanks

[worn coral]

rush stalin line focus

[dusky burrow]

that's a thoroughly bad idea

[worn coral]

why not?

[dusky burrow]

the level 5? forts in like 2 tiles out of every 10 along a frontline is... meh

[worn coral]

idk

i dont play soviets very often

[dusky burrow]

And if things do go badly, you'd get bypassed all the way to the Dnipro and Daugava

Which is a very solid defensive line

[worn coral]

just guide him through and help him make the budget mountaineer offensive

[dusky burrow]

And then there's still quite a way until the Soviets are truly desperate (this happens when they take Kharkiv or Donetsk)

[worn coral]

also

remind him to research desperate measure asap

[dusky burrow]

Absolutely

[worn coral]

i once forgot about that and only research it mid 1942

it was painful

also

remember to stop offensives on exhaustion period

or youll just lose equipment and mp

ok i gtg now

[vital trellis]

I'll go sleep in about 5-10 minutes, just wanted to go from 1936 to 1939

I managed to go through the purge with minimum casualties

[oak mantle]

Impossible

[vital trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[dusky burrow]

Also Soviets are very research constrained

[heavy vigil]

soviets are easily beaten by airpower

[dusky burrow]

We're playing as the soviets tbh

[heavy vigil]

then you should make AA and cry about no air

or license uk air

[dusky burrow]

Yeah UK air is quite great to license

air also has a licensing exploit which allows you to basically steal airframes

In any case I don't think you even need air to beat vanilla AI, but you do have the research to do at one of air and tanks

[dusky burrow]

Nice

[dusky burrow]

You want to see something funny btw

[vital trellis]

Weak air power

[surreal mist]

wasting 11 mils on garbage

[vital trellis]

Bruh

[heavy vigil]

yes

[heavy vigil]

no BBA ussr can do fighters

not whatever the rest of that is tho

[surreal mist]

so 6 mils on garbage

nah still 11, fighter 1 is still garbage without bba

[heavy vigil]

naval bombers for the romanian navy

[dusky burrow]

favorite country... oof that's a bit difficult a lot of countries have downsides and upsides... India can be nice, honestly I like countries that are slightly outside the European thunderdome more (which is why you see me playing a lot of Iran and Iraq)

Releaseable... the only one I've actually played before is Kumul if that even counts, but if I had to choose something else then probably Taiwan

[vital trellis]

I did this

[dusky burrow]

Hearts of Iron game in 3 screenshots

@remote quarry might not like this one

[vital trellis]

URA
URA
URA
URAAAAA

[opal nymph]

237/24

Muh stats

[vital trellis]

@dusky burrow

[dusky burrow]

good for defense but you'd lose a lot on offense

[dusky burrow]

Yeah the infantry isn't good

[heavy vigil]

liv encircled??

[dusky burrow]

Yeah true

[warped flint]

Able to refit a few things a day

just a little

[dusky burrow]

I was actually losing back in January 1942 to a German push in the Balkans and got even more units encircled, but then my game froze and I had to go to sleep

Germany sent 90% of their tank force to take Thessaloniki and bypass both Belgrade and Podgorica

And the shocking thing is they were literally one tile away

[vital trellis]

Should i remove the anti-air then?

[dusky burrow]

No the AA is very much necessary

[warped flint]

YOOO

[dusky burrow]

For the times your air goes red and the enemy starts CAS against you, and for the piercing it provides against enemy tanks

(we don't recommend AT for this purpose is because vanilla AI tank templates don't have a lot of armor, so AA works against both CAS and tanks while AT only works against tanks, and those tanks aren't that hard)

[warped flint]

This IS tuff

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-idk-this-person-questioning-random-person-this-who-gif-5295285761881556675

[warped flint]

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-speed-tried-not-to-laugh-ishowspeed-tiktok-gif-10902436083761798311

[dusky burrow]

I think I overproduced on light tanks tbh

[dusky burrow]

Basically we make a larger template, either with normal infantry or, as pembobro alluded to, with special forces

also what dlcs do you have since we forgot to ask

[worn coral]

why so many light tanks

when did you stop producing them?

[dusky burrow]

I continuously had like 5 factories on them for the entire of the game and then I added some along the way

[vital trellis]

None

[dusky burrow]

Keep in mind I had 180 factories on heavy tanks by the end of this

Yeah then might not be the best idea to do special forces

so yeah you might want to do 36 or 38 width infantry with light tank recon, aa, artillery, assault engineers, and hospitals for the offensive unit

[sudden thistle]

guh

[vital trellis]

lol

Wtf

[warped flint]

bro what are these divison names 💔

I did NOT, name them that

[dusky burrow]

larper divs i guess

[worn coral]

how did they even get in the allies

[warped flint]

hopefully my airforce can help the soviets not die...

[worn coral]

i tought u couldnt get in as fascist nation

[worn coral]

holy 28 kills

[warped flint]

They probably were monarchist when they joined

Well non aligned

[rugged nova]

I have a question

[pallid slate]

bro what are your plane templates?

[rugged nova]

what are yalls hours on this game

[pallid slate]

2012

[rugged nova]

I have 2.2k

[eternal palm]

Ouch

This hurts

U have range designer

[rugged nova]

sorry

2,343.4 hours

[eternal palm]

Why not double armor plate

[warped flint]

I dont play usa is that one bad?

[rugged nova]

holy shit

[pallid slate]

how stupid must be the ai to lose 28:1 to this

[eternal palm]

No Range designer is really good, u just got the wrong design

[eternal palm]

You'd be surprised

[warped flint]

Ohhh

[eternal palm]

Replace extra fuel with armor plate

[eternal palm]

Much better

[heavy vigil]

hours? like at least 6-7

[hushed pond]

hello

[warped flint]

67

so tuff

[heavy vigil]

yep thats my hours

[warped flint]

bro my airforce is getting its ahh kicked 💔

I am helping them in the north

[bitter nexus]

why my game lagging?

[worn coral]

bug

you dont have enough divisions

[bitter nexus]

probably

i dont think i can invade luxemburg with this little

[worn coral]

maybe liechstein if ur lucky

[bitter nexus]

maybe vatican city

[worn coral]

no

vatican city is the ultimate enemy

the second u declare war

u will become a chinese puppet

[bitter nexus]

maybe the about 15500 divisions are lagging my game a bit

[worn coral]

not really

[bitter nexus]

how do i see how many I have'

[worn coral]

the game only starts lagging when u have like 900k

[bitter nexus]

hmmmm

maybe I should try 11 mil

[worn coral]

maybe its the supply?

[bitter nexus]

none of them are at all supplied

[worn coral]

900k divisions not mp

[bitter nexus]

this is hell

[worn coral]

dont overstack

put only 100 per tile

[bitter nexus]

oh yeah maybe thats ut

you wanna see my production and logistics

[worn coral]

yea sure

[bitter nexus]

not the best but could be a bit better

[warped flint]

holy shit max buffed axis is op asf

I have destroyed thousands of their planes but they just keep making more and more

[worn coral]

thats nothing

[worn coral]

dont worry

they are losing manpower

they can have infinite planes but not infinite manpower

[worn coral]

meh

fixable in a year

[bitter nexus]

your right, I should be at a 100 mil inf eq deficit

1.9 is too little

[worn coral]

ae 1000000000 Infantry Equipment I

[bitter nexus]

how have i not capped riga