hoi4-general

[wary sparrow]

their factories are dead

[fair horizon]

oh are they still bugged?

[wary sparrow]

sweden joined stresa front

[wary sparrow]

ye german ai is dead

[toxic cypress]

why r u in stresa as england

[wary sparrow]

they asked and i thought it'd be funny

plus im about to take over faction

[toxic cypress]

yeah but u need to annex em for eu

[wary sparrow]

i aint trying to form eu

[toxic cypress]

alr

[inland falcon]

The military junta still? Good lord

[wary sparrow]

german ai has been broken

[inland falcon]

Rip

[wary sparrow]

they've not been able to push the soviets past memel in current historical runs

[light tendon]

yo why cant i do ts

[inland falcon]

Btw is there anyone who doesn't just outright hang the nazi leadership after the Civil war

[light tendon]

i have everything i even annexed poland for this

[wary sparrow]

anyone who wants to go fascist again

cause of the volksreich

[inland falcon]

Alsace and Luxembourg

[wary sparrow]

wish there was a secret path

[light tendon]

huh

[wary sparrow]

he controls them

[inland falcon]

Yeah but if they're cores and not owned he can't do the decision

[wary sparrow]

it says states controlled

[inland falcon]

Has anyone formed the EU as Strasser

[wary sparrow]

not states owned

[inland falcon]

Fully controlled means owned and controlled

It's stupid but that's just the way it is

[coral gorge]

horsie stronk

[barren coyote]

Finally.... no longer in defecit

[barren coyote]

Bro ain't no way

[wary sparrow]

after i beat usa, all chineese warlords joined the commenwealth of nations rahhhhhhh

at least mexico is almost dead

bruh

peru formed this after peace deal

what is this worlddddd

[fair horizon]

gran colombia and bolivian empire time

[wary sparrow]

nah look at this mess

most important war in human history

[calm plank]

IVE FINALLY LEARNED THE BASICS OF NAVAL

RAHHHHHH

[jovial kite]

i looked at the dev corner and finally austrailia is getting a new focus tree

[woven gate]

i ragebaited a chinese communist by saying me and him were married

[calm plank]

guys i’m gonna dewit, im gonna use patton as a PURE INFANTRY commander (im kidding, don’t jump me)

[woven gate]

never did i think i'd say this

[woven gate]

viable because as the US you can pump out some OVERPOWERED inf

[calm plank]

ok

how do i ragebait them…

what is something that you would never do in hoi4…

I GOT IT

IM GOING TO PLAY BRITAIN AND DECOLONIZE

[restive sable]

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[woven gate]

yeah

[inland falcon]

why do you do the things you do

I don't even think the provisional government can demand eastern Poland. They just gave that shit up for the hell of it

[restive sable]

WHY does what i assume poland do this randomly

[inland falcon]

Wait wtf, neither of them took a focus for it

Is it tied to the peasant rebellion?

[native pewter]

hoi4 geoguesser

[sharp sierra]

i found it

[wary sparrow]

mwahahah i rule the americas

[calm plank]

northern soviet union

since antarctica don’t exist

[native pewter]

it is soviet union yes

more central siberia though i think

[wary sparrow]

ottomans are so bad they losing to greece

greece without aid

smh

lol danube confederation (besides yugo) united

[wary sparrow]

faction update

yugo joined co-prosperity sphere

armenia created faction with lithuania

turkey almost dead to greece alone

[vivid juniper]

Not too shabby Argentina

My communist, Argentina game

I ended it after conquering the continent, but I’m stuck at war with the US

[wary sparrow]

ngl italian empire color is so smooth

[glad sun]

how is this a loss

[wary sparrow]

herman is not happy about losing his plans hmph

[sharp laurel]

what is the id of cas aircraft

[wary sparrow]

urahhh

[vast briar]

I'm starting a movement. Spread the word #Addjosephlyonstohoi4

[past cedar]

Есть русскоговорящие люди? Можете мне в личку написать

[cunning hill]

What this stuff people have been saying about the ai lately?

[slim nexus]

What

[cunning hill]

Like some have been saying it’s been buffed to the point it glitches

[terse skiff]

it's not buffed

naval ai is so stupid now

[grim epoch]

Is it possible to change your capital?

Like if I form Siberia can I move my capital to Irkutsk, Novosibirsk, Tyumen, or Krasnoyarsk?

[quasi shoal]

only through decisions

[drifting sun]

Okay ive played nations that suffer. But my god... North Korea why...

[heavy vigil]

thats normal in mildawn

[drifting sun]

I dont play it much so makes sense that I dont know

How do I make it faster lol

[heavy vigil]

its quite easy if you just ignore the eco system because it doesnt matter

you dont construct new stuff anyway just use your mils and research ahead of time on equipment you want (inf stuff) and its pretty fun

and because research times are so long even without bonuses you get techs like 3 years ahead of time or more

pretty peak

[drifting sun]

Funny you say that lol north Korea has a -51% research speed its 2001 and I haven't researched a single thing

[heavy vigil]

then fix it?

its prob in your laws/tree

thats one of those things you do care about

[drifting sun]

Its mainly because it has a national spirit totalitarian government that alone is -20% research speed and idk how to get rid of it because you cant flip the nation as far as I can tell

[heavy vigil]

i played palestine a few times and had some fun tho i did cheat to yk be free

[heavy vigil]

usually mildawn laws are like

you spend pp on them

a lot of it

but you can also get like 5 pp daily so it doesnt matter

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[silver fable]

God I love the wojtek route

Getting better enough to unlock him is rough but its just hilarious you can get a monarchist Poland so desperate they

Elect a bear

[cedar lance]

alr

[silver fable]

How you doing

[cedar lance]

im doing good Lord hbu?

[silver fable]

How many hours you got and what's your biggest accomplishment

Good for me

[cedar lance]

i have 91.6 hrs on hoi4

[silver fable]

Just about 200 hours myself and I defeated the Japanese and communists as china

[silver fable]

Got a favorite nation so far?

[fervent minnow]

i've got 700 and ig my biggest achivement is probably this one:

[cedar lance]

estonia

since im estonian

[silver fable]

Nice

Might try that but I am playing modded right now

[cedar lance]

alr

[silver fable]

Always good to learn with minor nations

[warped flint]

I really hate how my playthroughs never go as the ones in the guide

always some weird shit happens that messes me up

[silver fable]

Yeah

[cedar lance]

yes

i do like building a LOT of tanks etc

[silver fable]

Aww its a swear filter

I was wondering what was wrong with what I said

[warped flint]

no naughty words

those are naughty

[silver fable]

Oh come on no H either?

[warped flint]

hell

😈

[silver fable]

Or how a random playthrough at like midnight goes leagues better and you forget to save so now you are scrambling the next day to figure out how on earth you won a war like 1.5 years early on a messed up save

I had a playthrough where I beat Japan in 1939

Took me a week of spam playing to get a save like that again

[cedar lance]

alr

[silver fable]

Ethiopia has to be my proudest save like that

Held so much land til volunteers were allowed

Then messed up 2 rebel nations formed and joined the allies

Somalia formed

[cedar lance]

alr

[silver fable]

And then a other African resistance nation formed on my other coast

So I got relandlocked

By a focus I did to give italy minimal compliance maximum resistance in africa

[silver fable]

Might try Estonia

They hold on alot longer their neighbor when I invade

[cedar lance]

alr nice

[silver fable]

I wonder how goods the focus tree

[cedar lance]

imo its nice

even tho i dont do em

[tawdry nebula]

Good morning guys.

[pastel olive]

Please give feedback on its performance!! 😅👍

[coral gorge]

ok this was pretty pita

Nat China losing so quickly, forcing me to help them

[quasi shoal]

yikes 👀

[quasi shoal]

yoo khotan ma

now you can become a moderately successful hoi4 youtuber

[cedar lance]

hello gamer

[tawdry nebula]

Hi.

Today I will restart my Japan run.

[signal oracle]

Japan pmo

Too much waiting for Naval invasion

[cedar lance]

alr

@tawdry nebula should i buy get lend lease and get production licenses as Estonia?

[tawdry nebula]

Sure.

[cedar lance]

alr nice

[coral gorge]

that's kind of them

MonSoc achieved

[pseudo raven]

World ablaze is so bad...

[tawdry nebula]

World ablaze? What is it?

[ripe slate]

Idea is like BICE but more gameplay-focused

[tulip thorn]

Did they do it better or worse

[ripe slate]

My first impression of both was rather negative

[tulip thorn]

Thats how it goes, I really didnt like bice

[neat kayak]

Can someone explain to me why this buffon gets the capp of britain ?

why does Britain caps to italy

and not to me

[tawdry nebula]

Oh, ok I see and thanks marijn2.

[inland falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/dillom-rage-dog-angry-dog-gif-17954176246139200797

where is it

where is new zealand

[pseudo raven]

No gameplay

All historical part ends when bots start cheating to not die until choosed by german glazer developer date

Mannerheim line lvl6 forts

Very historical

Also take vipuri in 90 days or -all ws and some debufs

[inland falcon]

im calling it now the next dlc is gonna suck

[pseudo raven]

Idk i want some Siam focuses

[inland falcon]

like, actually suck

[tawdry nebula]

I don't think so tbh.

[inland falcon]

not just NCNS suck, GOE suck

maybe even BFB suck

[tawdry nebula]

Honestly saying I like NCNS.

[inland falcon]

i do too but people hate it

[pseudo raven]

Idk i pretty liked them

[pseudo raven]

That's their opinion

[tawdry nebula]

Same for me.

As I bought them yesterday.

[inland falcon]

GOE sucks icl

[pseudo raven]

U have your own

[inland falcon]

britain is the ultimate anti-fun machine

[pseudo raven]

I waited for germany and usa overhaul

Because usa is boring rn

[inland falcon]

USA is really boring yeag, canada prolly needs a rework too

[pseudo raven]

Only for rp

[signal oracle]

No

[pseudo raven]

Churchill path is fine

[inland falcon]

tfym no. invading britain and potentially the US as iraq is not fun

[pseudo raven]

Oh in this way antifun

Than yes it is

I thought u meant focuses

[inland falcon]

nah, they just kill any fun to be had as a minor nation

[tawdry nebula]

Just curious guys.

[cedar lance]

im gonna buy stuff from international market get lend lease and get production licenses as Estonia

[tawdry nebula]

How many dlc you guys have in total?

[cedar lance]

32

[pseudo raven]

All

[tawdry nebula]

Nice.

I also have right now 32 dlc.

[cedar lance]

nice

im gonna buy and get whatever techs equipments and licenes as i want

and whatever lend lease aswell

since i NEED em ALL

so i can be very modern army navy and airforce

[hushed chasm]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/singapore-naval-supply-base-is-not-working-after-taking-control-of-the-province-from-siam.1889720/

Newly acquired or built Naval supply hubs appear to not work until you reload your game

[tawdry nebula]

Probably the next two I will buy a part the Thunder at Our Gates would be the Graveyard of Empires, Trial of Allegiance and some other.

[cedar lance]

i do also use ALL Special projects as estonia

[inland falcon]

TOA is at least passible

GOE you might play one or two nations and then forget about it

[neat kayak]

Sniped these two out of the way

[tawdry nebula]

I see.

If well those are the dlc I miss still Apollyon.

[cedar lance]

are jets good

[tawdry nebula]

If you want the Me 262 and the Japan Kikka that is a Me 262 sure.

[cedar lance]

alr

estonia shall and will become a SUPERPOWER

[cedar lance]

@tawdry nebula

[tawdry nebula]

If you can do that yeah.

[cedar lance]

alr

[signal oracle]

Just win

[pseudo raven]

Deepest answer

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

[lost dawn]

How is it going?

I know. The Amazon part of Brazil is a painful part of the game.

I was stuck in northern Brazil for.... 8 years?

The grind continues

[pseudo raven]

Just do marines

[lost dawn]

I use marines.

But there is only so much amph tanks and marines can do against 40+ units per tile

[pseudo raven]

Amph tanks with howitzers?

Do u use flamethrower meds?

Do u have air

Not like cas

Just green

[lost dawn]

The state of the world now that I start again today

[pseudo raven]

Than do airbases

[lost dawn]

I have too many fronts to manage

[lost dawn]

I do.

[pseudo raven]

And do cas damage

[lost dawn]

I do use cas

[pseudo raven]

Enemy has supply in area?

[lost dawn]

Yup

Somehow

[pseudo raven]

Destroy it with med bombers than

Supply hubs naval bases rails and civs

[lost dawn]

I have also put a fleet to work on a full blockade of Great Britain

[pseudo raven]

Atleast royal fleet isn't a problem

[lost dawn]

I already sank every major fleet

[pseudo raven]

Than why invading from Siberia?

[lost dawn]

I am the undisputed master on the seas

[pseudo raven]

Not western Europe

[lost dawn]

Because the Axis still has 4000 units

[pseudo raven]

Who are majors?

[pseudo raven]

And u have op marines with docs

[lost dawn]

Japan, Great Britain, Germany, Italy, Soviet Union, Turkey, Soviet hungary, Sweden, China and Chile

France is long dead

[pseudo raven]

Kill chili last one

Do not waste time

[lost dawn]

Chile is not in the Axis

gonna kill them first

[pseudo raven]

Than naval invade

No axis garrison probably

[lost dawn]

I do not have any naval bases close to Chile at this time

[pseudo raven]

U are usa

[lost dawn]

Actually

I can just about reach them

[pseudo raven]

Did u assigned fleet to the naval bases in south America

[lost dawn]

My fleets are mostly repairing

they have been the only thing keeping me in this game for as long as now

[pseudo raven]

They are calculating their distance from San Francisco

[drowsy arrow]

Oh

[pseudo raven]

Change it to something closer to chili

Giant blunder and waste of time

[lost dawn]

Not how that works...

I could put any fleet in the area and it would give the same results

My fleets are all heavily damaged anyways

[pseudo raven]

Yes fleet calculates it's range from naval base assigned to

[lost dawn]

I need to continue with my invasion of Siberia first

[fleet sable]

what country is the best to play when i want to quickly conquer the uk in 1936?

[pseudo raven]

Hello fleet revork

[pseudo raven]

Waste people at ural mountains

[lost dawn]

I did get Man the guns but not the latest one yet

[pseudo raven]

Just try to change it

[lost dawn]

It is not that fleet that I will use anyways

I need to find another fleet to use for Chile

[pseudo raven]

Left one is auto assigne

[pseudo raven]

Enough to invade supplied areas of chilli

[lost dawn]

The blue fleet is assigned to the naval blockade of Europe

I suppose I could use the White fleet once it is repaired

[lost dawn]

But that is still a ways off

[pseudo raven]

At some point every fleet

Bcs u wrote that everyone's else fleet is destroyed

[pseudo raven]

Any not every

[lost dawn]

The Japanese have 2-3 ships, Soviets have 150 at most, Great Britian at most 96, Germany 50, Italy 45

I have 649 ships

[pseudo raven]

Actually if u want to do something silly try paratroop supply in south America

[heavy vigil]

hiiii :3

[lost dawn]

Going to nuke them first

I have a 212 supply of shells

[pseudo raven]

Not like actuall supply hubs near front

[lost dawn]

I am nuking them to kill their troops and push into occupied Argentina

[pseudo raven]

But deep one's which connect front supply with capital

[pseudo raven]

Cool

Never used nukes actually

[pseudo raven]

Should do it for achievement

[lost dawn]

I also need to take back Australia at some point

[signal oracle]

Idk how this is new information to you all, if you are losing the war the just win it

[tulip thorn]

Because I always lose trust

I am the worst hoi4 player

I cant ever win anything

idk what it means to win

[signal oracle]

Just win

[lost dawn]

Reason why I chose Siberia is also because supply is low there. So whatever I build.... the Axis does not have

It means I have a supply advantage over the Axis

and when up against a superior number of troops.... that helps

[tulip thorn]

I dont know how to win

[pseudo raven]

Actually med bombers would be op in this region

[tulip thorn]

Im like really really really bad at hoi4

[lost dawn]

I do have a production line of those

Too few in number though

[pseudo raven]

As everyone else here

[tulip thorn]

Truth nuke

But im the worst trust

Im worse than a 0 hour player

[pseudo raven]

Why so low on mils in 1954

[pseudo raven]

Wow

[lost dawn]

Nuh uh.... I am the best player ofcourse fr fr

[pseudo raven]

Actually impressive

[pseudo raven]

I am second after the worst one

[eternal palm]

Or you could just go somewhere you don't have to build supply 😭

Who fights willingly in fking siberia

U could just go to france

[pseudo raven]

I offered him west europe

[lost dawn]

Very few placed to build left

[eternal palm]

HOW ARE YOU NOT SLOT CAPPED ALREADY

[lost dawn]

I built like 19 nuclear reactors

[eternal palm]

What the fk

USA is capped in like 42

[pseudo raven]

Holy civ greed or no research on industry?

[tulip thorn]

I always cap in 41

[eternal palm]

Bro..... Those ports arent gonna do shit

Level doesn't increase supply

[pseudo raven]

I have 0 stab and 0 ws but control Japan in 1937 or when there's an event with war

[lost dawn]

When getting them to level 8 or higher... you can build a supply depot for your ships

[eternal palm]

So?

[lost dawn]

so you can deploy your ships from those ports

[eternal palm]

Why would you park your ships in siberia

Japan is right there

[eternal palm]

You can do that already.....

[lost dawn]

I should nuke Japan agian....

[pseudo raven]

Sanfrancisko, pacific islands

Alot of planes

And why not invade Vladivostok

[eternal palm]

Bro just has a boner for fighting in siberia

[lost dawn]

Who cares. My civ economy is large enough that I am never going to run out of factories to build stuff with

[eternal palm]

Well u could have more milsls

[lost dawn]

Mils are overrated

[pseudo raven]

He decided it is easier to fight 4k axis division in Siberia

[eternal palm]

As long as you aren't slop capped you need to build mils

[tulip thorn]

Damn

[eternal palm]

And here you are wondering why AI outnumbered you clueless

[pseudo raven]

Where 100% of time is deep snow penalties

[tulip thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1357845146816741416/1432008293961961733/giphy.gif

[eternal palm]

Right.

[pseudo raven]

U literally can't do a shit without them rn

[lost dawn]

I already have too much equipment

[eternal palm]

Gotta give it to the guy, that cte has hit hard

[lost dawn]

Plenty of stuff in storage

[pseudo raven]

10 mils on planes isn't enough

[tulip thorn]

Lets see the planes

[eternal palm]

7 on fighter 2 in 1954

Jesus christ

[pseudo raven]

Why not deploying

CAS

[eternal palm]

I have these stockpiles in 1941 lil bro 😭

What are you doing

[pseudo raven]

Spies doctrines research slots

Every notification

[tulip thorn]

Small stock pile

[pseudo raven]

Showing

That u are not even trying win it atleast

Sorry if it's sounds rude

[lost dawn]

?

[lost dawn]

I have nothing left to research

[pseudo raven]

Use spies

[lost dawn]

I have everything

[pseudo raven]

They reduce entranchment give Intel bonuses

[pseudo raven]

Every research done in 1954?

[oak mantle]

I just seen this division in a tiktok comment section

Genuienly might be the worst thing ive ever seen

[pseudo raven]

Not worse scenario

[lost dawn]

Yes

[tulip thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190430460120154274/1462686903512862823/Screenshot_20260107_170326_Instagram.gif

Thats actually

So bad

[pseudo raven]

No country for old man achievement

[oak mantle]

Dont forget the anti tank and anti air battallions

[pseudo raven]

If u choose right docs it will be even useful

[oak mantle]

It really wouldnt

[lost dawn]

I can always invade Africa and Europe later

to spread their troops even thinner

[oak mantle]

28 org and you get pushed by shitters

[pseudo raven]

As push divisions not like holding

[oak mantle]

Yeah still

[pseudo raven]

There are docs wich make line art less shit

[pseudo raven]

U need only Europe

Kill Germany and axis fell apart

Even if there's is a ussr and japan

They would drain them self before u even reach them

Wile conquering germany

It is ai

[lost dawn]

Germany is already on scraping the barrel with 0 manpower

I need to kill the divisions they have in South America and go from there

[pseudo raven]

Just naval invade and push with modern tanks

No problemo

Or heavies

[lost dawn]

Gimme a good tanks template

I do not really use tanks that often

I prefer inf

[pseudo raven]

Slopp soft attack and armor against ai

Would be enough

[lost dawn]

If I did not care about winning anymore I would have given up two days ago.

[lost dawn]

I am actually winning right now

[pseudo raven]

And make a template with mechs

[lost dawn]

The Axis is on the back foot

[drowsy arrow]

Hihi

[pseudo raven]

In support companies add everything what reduce terrain penalties

[pseudo raven]

Because u are not using your fleet advance

[lost dawn]

I am

Fleets need repairs

[eternal palm]

That's all I got

[tulip thorn]

Is 38 better than 36 for spgs now?

[pseudo raven]

Looks great

[eternal palm]

39 is technically the best. We got so much stats now that width penalty basically is irrelevant

And you can go up to 33% over width

And still get in the battle

[tulip thorn]

Makes sense

[eternal palm]

People did just go for 36 cuz scared of losing stockpile

While having 20k tanks in stock like

[pseudo raven]

I do 32 because ai sacks anyway

[tulip thorn]

Lmao

[pseudo raven]

Oh it's was about tanks

[eternal palm]

Works for rough terrain so whatever

[pseudo raven]

Yes

[eternal palm]

No no 32w is good for marshes

But like, maybe dont park your tanks in marshes lmao

[oak mantle]

Whyve you made your flame tanks so expensive

[eternal palm]

Because break is important

And less common now

As in, we need more break than before

Stats have been inflated and without break u can't crit

[pseudo raven]

They are normal

Why u need crap in production

[oak mantle]

Wait flame tanks dont have breakthrough debuffed?

[eternal palm]

Yea but it's the only stat you can stack on a tank

Any other stat has the same penalty

[pseudo raven]

Also some armor

[eternal palm]

Tanks just happen to have a lot more break modules

[eternal palm]

Nah piercing has been bloated

Armor is functionally irrelevant now

[oak mantle]

Because why would you want to spend ic for no reason

[eternal palm]

You can keep 3 mils on flame tanks and fill 50 tanks

Just don't be dumb

[oak mantle]

You dont just use flame tanks for tanks

You can use them with inf

[pseudo raven]

Yes but still broken shield allows deal only 80% damage instead of 100% if i understood it correctly

[eternal palm]

Yea but then you have 50 mils on them anyhow

[eternal palm]

As I said, you fully pierce anyway

[oak mantle]

Youd never need 50 mils on flame tanks

[eternal palm]

It's not worth the investment

20% damage reduction is not worth the Ic

[pseudo raven]

Fair enough

[eternal palm]

You do

If you have them in your inf

[oak mantle]

You really dont

[eternal palm]

Wait fk that

Just put it in your inf and don't produce, disable equipment

[oak mantle]

If you have them in inf you can have like 10 unless you do the bullshit 10 ic flame tanks u have

[eternal palm]

That gives you the buff without having the tank

[oak mantle]

U could

[eternal palm]

Right right

Sure whatever you say man

[pseudo raven]

Kekw

[eternal palm]

"oh no Muh IC"

That's what you sound like

[oak mantle]

Because ic doenst matter right

According to you at least

[tawdry nebula]

Hey CreepAgeDE.

[eternal palm]

Never said it doesn't

You clearly can't read

[oak mantle]

So why waste ic?

[eternal palm]

Otherwise you would agree with me

[eternal palm]

It's not wasted.

[oak mantle]

I can read and youre talking total shit

[eternal palm]

You invest into break

[eternal palm]

Right right

[oak mantle]

Not wasted but unnecessary of course

[eternal palm]

It also isn't that

But sure

[oak mantle]

You could add wet ammonia storage to tanks and its not a waste

Its just unnecessary

[eternal palm]

🥱

Are ya done

[oak mantle]

Ig if u are

[pseudo raven]

Against ai yes

[oak mantle]

Im responding to your questions

[pseudo raven]

In mp it's not

[lost dawn]

Anything for modern tanks?

[eternal palm]

Nope. Moderns are bad

Like really bad

[oak mantle]

Especially in mp it is, why waste ic in mp?

[eternal palm]

Less stats than inter war

[oak mantle]

Youd be better off wasting ic in sp than mp

[pseudo raven]

Aren't heavy better then modern?

[inland falcon]

I do not do flame tanks. I do not do space marines. I do 7'2s. And if it doesn't work, I quit the game

[pseudo raven]

I always thought like that

[eternal palm]

As I said

[eternal palm]

[pseudo raven]

Missed it in flow of chat

[eternal palm]

The modern chassis simply sucks because it can't use extra turrets

Hence any other chassis has more stats

[inland falcon]

I mean, I don't think 7'2s are even the best option anymore but wtv

[eternal palm]

Even the gun isn't good

Too expensive for what it does

So just use basic or improved and be done

[pseudo raven]

I heard that they were crap from no step back

But idk

[eternal palm]

20w has been shit for what 4 years now?

The future is now old man

[oak mantle]

Do you have the lighter thingy on your cas that makes the production cheaper

[eternal palm]

And arty is still shit

But less so

[inland falcon]

I mostly just shit out 9 inf battalion infantry with support arty

[pseudo raven]

Yes

[inland falcon]

It does the trick against the ai

[eternal palm]

Yea inf isn't complicated

Dont use arty and that's like 90% of it

[pseudo raven]

I have feeling that cas became much more affordable

[eternal palm]

Has it?

[pseudo raven]

Because of mio

[oak mantle]

Knew hed avoid the question lol

[eternal palm]

..... So it has been for 3 years now

Great

[pseudo raven]

Ah yes

No step back

[eternal palm]

AAT*

Close

NSB was the tank designer

[pseudo raven]

Oh

Missed some dates because of playing on bad version of game

[lost dawn]

Does adding radio navigation II for -20% night penalty do anything?

Seems like a good thing to add

[eternal palm]

Not for fighters

Night penalty exclusively applies to strats

[pseudo raven]

For cas bombers yes I guess

[eternal palm]

Since it's a penalty to strat bombers

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[eternal palm]

Uh no

[pseudo raven]

Not for cas?

[eternal palm]

Nope

Strat bombing penalty

[pseudo raven]

Oh

Actually never read what penalties do

Like when they are small numbers

[eternal palm]

The game doesn't explain it either

[pseudo raven]

Yep

Hard to learn

Game

[eternal palm]

I had fking pydgin tell me that night penalty was the mission efficiency penalty for fighters like

[pseudo raven]

Still i love radars

Pretty cheap to build

[eternal palm]

Radars are good

[pseudo raven]

And gives some green numbers

[cedar lance]

are all supersonic and modern aircraft planes and helis good?

[pseudo raven]

Idk never research them

For me interest in campaigns ends after killing every major

[cedar lance]

alr

i like em A LOT

[pseudo raven]

So no point in researching it when there is no majors

[cedar lance]

i research them all as ESTONIA

[pseudo raven]

Probably I should give them a try

[cedar lance]

alr

[pseudo raven]

Least hard-core Estonia enjoyer

[cedar lance]

yes

[pseudo raven]

Space marine baltics were funny for me at some point

[cedar lance]

alr

XD

take a look in #modding

and tell me whatcu think bout em

[tawdry nebula]

What happened?

[cedar lance]

wdym

[lost dawn]

Anything I can do with the fact that the germans only have 46 stability and 39 war support left?

due to me raiding them with my fleets

[pseudo raven]

Do spies to reduce it even more

Ws impact core territory defense bonuses

And give strikes

@eternal palm do ai get strike events?

[eternal palm]

Yes?

[pseudo raven]

K

Thanks

[eternal palm]

And decreases surrender limit below 50%

Pretty useful

[pseudo raven]

Forgot about it

Always doing colab

[pseudo raven]

Have Germany reached autarky?

If not then their economy is already dead

[lost dawn]

I do not see the national spirit

[tawdry nebula]

I saw the huge discussion of before and was wondering at what was releated.

[pseudo raven]

Send a screenshot

[lost dawn]

Btw should I build these ice carriers?

And should I build fleet submarine instead of advanced submarines?

[pseudo raven]

Nah

U are usa

Do normal ships

[pseudo raven]

Usa in 195x

Already should done everything

U have opportunity to deploy several super heavy ships in 1942 if u decide to do them

[prime totem]

oh i forgot estonia you are right 😭

[lost dawn]

They did do the focus

But I do not see the national spirit

[prime totem]

good morning guys btw

(its 2pm here dont judge)

my sleep schedule is cooked

[pseudo raven]

I have seen trotsky world conquest speedrun

[prime totem]

damn

[pseudo raven]

Same

[prime totem]

ayyy my man

nice i guess

[lost dawn]

What should I use helicopters for btw

[prime totem]

new plan,imma invade estonia,finland and all of the balkans and finally invade the uk

[pseudo raven]

Dealing with UK first?

[prime totem]

i dont got a navy :((

gimme some time first

[cedar lance]

XD

sorry

[pseudo raven]

Do rain of soviet Ivans

[cedar lance]

i also didnt have a good navy as Estonia

[pseudo raven]

Paratroop

Like soviet are MASSIVE on production buffs

But idk can OKMO buff plane production or not

[lost dawn]

BRAZIL WHY

[prime totem]

hmmm i do got a airforce so i might try it

btw should i do the paratrooper divs. 20 bit or?

[pseudo raven]

It's easier to build

[pseudo raven]

I guess should find meta template first

[lost dawn]

Brazil is trying to throw this game

[prime totem]

what happened this time dawg

[prime totem]

alr lemme make a template and send a pic of it

[eternal palm]

My bother in christ, you're playing the game

[lost dawn]

True. I did not expect I would need to garrison all of my allies aswell

[eternal palm]

Maybe kill axis navy?

You're the US

[lost dawn]

They do not have a navy

not anymore

[eternal palm]

How can they invade then

[lost dawn]

It is already resting at the bottom of the sea

[eternal palm]

Then strike force?

[prime totem]

wait btw can i put art. in the paratrooper divs?

[eternal palm]

Like bruh

[eternal palm]

Not line

Only support

[prime totem]

alr

[lost dawn]

Can you deploy your navy from friendly ports btw?

How

[prime totem]

what do you guys think (ADDRESS ME)

20 bit paratrooper

[lost dawn]

I suppose it was not that dangerous afterall

Just the Axis throwing away troops

[prime totem]

free encirclement

[eternal palm]

Yes you can?

Just Park your navy there?

[lost dawn]

In my experience it then does not give me the option to deploy the navy inside of the sea zone located next to the port if it is outside of the operational range of one of my own ports

[prime totem]

OH NO USA JOINED THE WAR

goddamn it

[lost dawn]

Still win-able

You should have a large army

[prime totem]

4 million i think

[lost dawn]

Build yourself a fleet

[eternal palm]

Oh no 1k factories in 39 whatever shall u do

[lost dawn]

and invade africa

[eternal palm]

You basically won already

[prime totem]

finally addressed the elephant in the room

thanks

[eternal palm]

I shall not

[prime totem]

no need for a fleet,i can just invade turkey and than move south

[prime totem]

lol

[pseudo raven]

There's enough people who uses console for their runs

So nothing special

[eternal palm]

😭

[pseudo raven]

Only if he is ultimate beast

[eternal palm]

Highly unfortunate

[prime totem]

(nah)

[prime totem]

NICE

[opaque mulch]

i think they're hinting something

[mental mantle]

Where is Taured ingame?

[prime totem]

fr

perfect world for my pc ngl

here goes nothing guys

[opaque mulch]

nvm they were faster

[prime totem]

DAMN

[prime totem]

snowwwww

[normal mortar]

this snow is like a month old

[prime totem]

damn snow here lasted 2 days

and its gone now.

[rapid pebble]

How do I edit the designer files

like

edit the armor and engine modifiers

[sudden thistle]

Didn’t start yet

[lost dawn]

As for my progress

South America has almost entirely been retaken

I managed to clear a large enriclement in Australia

and I am pushing into northern China

With plans to invade China from the south via a naval invasion

[eternal palm]

😭

[lost dawn]

This is solid progress

[eternal palm]

Bro is doing anything BUT finishing the fight

[eternal palm]

You could've ended this 15 years ago!

You're walking backwards on purpose and calling walking forward progress

[lost dawn]

How is continuing to take territory slowly while fighting off the old world walking backwards?

[arctic nest]

i think yoi shold rather land in europe than push in sibiera

[lost dawn]

Yes... It has taken me some time

[eternal palm]

You couldve invaded France

But no

You're fighting in fking siberia

[lost dawn]

What

[eternal palm]

U know u can island hop to Europe right

[lost dawn]

I know.

[eternal palm]

Like, Africa is right there

[eternal palm]

And why are you not doing it

[coral gorge]

shjt, the Soviets are still dying

[lost dawn]

Because my naval invasions on Great Britain bounced

So I am drawing away troops before I try again

[finite plume]

Tis' a bad day for Kazakhstan

[pseudo raven]

Not worst

Atleast turkey is doing smth

[spiral sphinx]

1957 ?!

[pseudo raven]

I was curious about this too

[finite plume]

Idk man it could be worse

[pseudo raven]

And who u are playing

Turkey or Germany

[finite plume]

Aussa/Africa

[pseudo raven]

Good choice

Is it a proper alt hist game?

[finite plume]

I set every available nation to fascism

[pseudo raven]

Where ai basically unites when player is playing minor

[finite plume]

While I went Communist

[pseudo raven]

Good choice

[finite plume]

Countries like Italy and the UK aren't in the axis because I couped them

As true communist players should

[pseudo raven]

https://tenor.com/view/comrade-to-you-comrade-drink-cheers-smile-gif-16389985

[finite plume]

I couped Japan too but uh

I don't think they'll be much help

[pseudo raven]

If they got fleet

Probably would

[lost dawn]

I will finally win the war! Liberia joined my faction!

[clever shuttle]

i was playing commie czeckoslovakia: before i had invaded hungary and after i defeeated them i puppeted them. Then later germany wanted sudetenland so i denied and went to war without my puppet. And then a couple months in germany invaded my hungarian puppet. How is this possible? Can ai do that? Can democratic allies also do that?

[coral gorge]

probably one of the foci somewhere

could be their focus that gives wargoal on all commie countries

but probably not that one

do you have the save game?

[kind vale]

Negative 46k guns is amazing in 1936

[cedar lance]

is the cold war iron curtain mod a good cold war mod?

[clever shuttle]

yea thought so too but then they would have wargoal on all the other commies

[coral gorge]

well vanilla AI is capable of manually justifying war on a target

[eternal palm]

If you are at war with an overlord you can instantly declare war on any puppets they have. Maybe AI is able to do that?

[coral gorge]

if they think that target is weak and is blocking the way

that actually happens

[coral gorge]

nah they actually don't have that button

only players have the UI for it

[eternal palm]

Wait what?

It's the same UI as the war declaration

It's not a UI thing

[fathom oyster]

i did it

[eternal palm]

That's honestly impressive

[fathom oyster]

i did as austro EU i made a faction with east till west

[coral gorge]

nah it is the same as MIO,

you and AI can all see it but only players can actually interact with it in any way

AI directly interacts with the mechanics behind it

so like AI can declare war on the puppet, but they don't have any factor for it because it doesn't exist as an "option" or like something AI has to do in the first place

so they will never do it

[eternal palm]

So how does AI declare war then?

If it can't see the button?

[coral gorge]

normal declare war is part of the action that they have the code for, more so

[eternal palm]

They use the war goal?

[coral gorge]

yeah

[eternal palm]

But if they don't have one, but are able to, they won't

[molten forge]

any way to convince an AI to join a faction if i aint the leader

[eternal palm]

Oh ok

[coral gorge]

they need an actual wargoal to do it

[eternal palm]

Interesting

[coral gorge]

otherwise the if then just doesn't work for them

even standard diplomatic actions by AI must be scripted/hardcoded for them to use

[lyric sigil]

hello im new who can help me pls dm

[coral gorge]

like they need to have it as a valid option in a checklist or sth

[coral gorge]

nah just ask here

@eternal palm AI directly interacts with a lot of things,

they can also de-license equipment that players can't

[clever shuttle]

damnnn because romania was at war with me too agai8nst germany

[coral gorge]

such as tanks

like if AI gets normal tank license and want a TD

they can directly change chassis class and therefore delicense the tank

only players get blocked because it is part of the UI

[fathom oyster]

But it took me multiple times to get the trophy

[molten forge]

so umm, portugal is in a civil war with a dead version of itself

[fathom oyster]

It took me 10 Times

[clever shuttle]

@coral gorge what makes the ai attack puppets of urs? can democraccies also do it?

[quasi osprey]

[clever shuttle]

hej min granne

[coral gorge]

they can't do it without a wargoal or an scripted effect that specifically makes them declare war immediately

they can however justify on any country that is blocking the way, sometimes

I am not too sure if other ideologies do it

[quasi osprey]

its 1942

[coral gorge]

but fascist can

[clever shuttle]

wdym blocking the way?

[clever shuttle]

nice

[coral gorge]

if they think attacking that nation will give them a better path to the actual intended target that it is at war with

[clever shuttle]

i had to join cominterm so romania joined me as one

[coral gorge]

but normally they only do it if they are vastly stronger than the nation that is blocking them

it is not very common

the code for it is pretty old

[clever shuttle]

germany was at war with me czehckoslovakia and romania, we both did not have an faction so i think that was the problem because it usualllly does not happen

[finite plume]

Do y'all understand this map

[opal nymph]

Poor Canada cant get Newfoundland

Poland-Belarus is kinda cursed along with Germany directly owning Oceania

[coral gorge]

Polish-Belorussian Commonwealth

☠️

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[opal nymph]

Malaya standing perfectly still to not get eaten

[cedar lance]

is the cold war iron curtain mod a good cold war mod?

[opal nymph]

It is one of the better ones

Lots of feature bloat though

Go play the nationalist Chinese and rip your hair out

[cedar lance]

alr

i did play US in the mod and got involved with the chinese civil war

[spiral sphinx]

What are you doing in siberia

[opal nymph]

You will need to save scum a lot to not die

Holding Shanghai is the worst think ive ever done in this game

I never successfully did it

[cedar lance]

alr

[quasi osprey]

oh mu

the german endsieg

[cedar lance]

damn man

[patent thistle]

seriously yugo? you "really" want to fight this? sure.

[fleet sable]

graveyard of slop ❤️

nah jk this is kinda funny

[cedar lance]

should i build Mbt and modern tanks

[quasi osprey]

this hurts my brain

[opal nymph]

You playing CW:IC?

Or vanilla

[cedar lance]

cwic

[opal nymph]

Well, who would win in a fight, a T-34 or a Patton

[cedar lance]

patton

[opal nymph]

And the Patton is a what

[cedar lance]

a main battle tank

[opal nymph]

There you go

[slim nexus]

I love this game so much, ive found the perfect game for me even failing miserably is incredibly fun, and then you just start a new game, i love it 😀 ❤️

[opal nymph]

Just wait until you start winning

[cedar lance]

i love CW IC

[slim nexus]

[cedar lance]

@opal nymph should i declare war against ALL communist nations in CW IC?

like as USA?

[slim nexus]

Can anyone suggest which nation to play im fairly new

[sharp sierra]

how many hours

prob just germany or something

[slim nexus]

My second day playing

[slim nexus]

But its so hard

[sharp sierra]

but youre thrown right in the mix of everything

like you build factories then make your army try to get poland then france

you can improve rapidly with what playing germany requires you to do

[slim nexus]

I played germany, i beat poland but then i lost to france

[slim nexus]

Ok thanks

[pseudo raven]

What is CWIC

[frank parcel]

How an i get argentina and Chile to leave the allies? like i dont want to fight half the globe as brazil

[swift osprey]

What is your favorite division template?

[pseudo raven]

32width inf with recon companies

[lost dawn]

Eating troops

Don't worry. It is not my only front with the Axis.

And yes. I know. It is very late.

Already 1959

But I will see the peace talks

I believe in final victory

[eternal palm]

Do u still have a save from like 1950? I wanna play this myself

[lost dawn]

Do not think I have

[eternal palm]

Iron-man?

[lost dawn]

Yes

[mental mantle]

How do I play as Democratic UK?

[eternal palm]

Then just send me the save as it is rn

This looks fun

And I wanna see how bad your build is

[eternal palm]

You click on the nation in the selection screen.

[lost dawn]

115 million dead on the Axis side

[eternal palm]

10 mil losses 💀

[lost dawn]

I may have lost a few armies

Yes

And a few botched naval invasions

But victory is in sight!

[mental mantle]

Can I naval invade antarctica?

[eternal palm]

Have you played the game yet?

Lol

[lost dawn]

Just put Italy, Germany, Great Britian (with france), the Soviet union, Japan, a mostly unified China and Sweden in the Axis in 1940

and you can have the same experience

[mental mantle]

No, I just have 600 hours

Oh wait a

[eternal palm]

Nah u see, I need your messed up build. Otherwise it's too easy

[mental mantle]

This isnt red flood discord serv

[eternal palm]

Gimme your save

[mental mantle]

No

[eternal palm]

And is Antarctica in the game lol?

[lost dawn]

I can only give you the most recent save

[eternal palm]

That's fine

[mental mantle]

In red flood submod

[eternal palm]

Gib

[lost dawn]

How do I actually send it though

[eternal palm]

U go into documents, paradox interactive, hoi, save games then u make the file into a zip and send it to me in dms

[steel zephyr]

is this alright for Finland? (a few of these, but I got the equipment for it)

I'm just not certain whether all the support units I'm using are really necesary

[opal nymph]

Cold War Iron Curtain

[opal nymph]

Do you even have the manpower for that

[pseudo raven]

Oh that's good mod

[opal nymph]

Also 27 is a very weird combat width

Ive literally gotten away using 6 widths as Finland for line fillers

[pseudo raven]

32 is excellent for every terrain

Isn't it?

[opal nymph]

It allows you to fit in mountains

32 is alright

36 is useful for non rough terrain

[molten forge]

hey so quick question

am doing historical

but germany winning a little bit too much

[pseudo raven]

Hi Albanian player

[molten forge]

Hi

[steel zephyr]

enough for a few divs in the south, I really only need these around Petrozavodsk and Petrograd

[pseudo raven]

That's hoi4 basic hist

[steel zephyr]

2 more of those divisions being created

[molten forge]

am in the allies bruv

[opal nymph]

German AI has been eating rocks in the recent patch

[pseudo raven]

As wich country?

[molten forge]

south africa

[pseudo raven]

Build few really good tank divisions and leave allies to fill the gaps

[molten forge]

the issue is

i went the support the policy of appeasement to see how strong it is

[steel zephyr]

oh peak

[pseudo raven]

Idk about SA

Is it like hist path or what

[crisp wyvern]

Hello hoi4ders

[molten forge]

its the path youre forced to remain puppet

[lost dawn]

Ok this is now, by far, the largest encirclement I have made.

[crisp wyvern]

I love and hate having to play in an older version of hoi4 (1.16.8)

[pseudo raven]

So what is the problem in tank production