hoi4-general

[remote quarry]

that focus is a waste of time and blitz is bad in general

[umbral agate]

why?

[remote quarry]

blitz is the same stat diff as breakthrough

but it gets countered by elastic defense

which is a very common tactic

also blitz can only be rolled on division with hardness

if you have focus time do SMERSH

it gives you do not blab which is actually op

[obtuse lodge]

how do i unhighlight that

[polar beacon]

question big brain people - you rushing nukes or iran+turkey+afganistan as soviets?

stalin can kill few generals and admirals meanwhile, thats ok

[sharp sierra]

i never get nukes anymore

[terse skiff]

Don't get war goals via comintern branch

That's a waste of focus

It costs you 35 days and 10 pp to get a war goal on Baltic states after you sign Molotov yet you want to waste 70 days and 225 pp to do it?

And you can just get Iraq/Iran/Afghan by justifying on them, you don't need to waste 105 days of focus to get them, spend that 105 days of focus on something useful like completing your third 5yp or some military buff

[sharp sierra]

fart year plan

[prisma saddle]

....

[supple summit]

yo lads question should I annex everything I can as france or should I also make puppets?

[frail kite]

It’s going very bad or wrong I’m not killing a lot of their armies

[simple citrus]

rate my attacking temp

[potent tapir]

why my ships have no fuel ?

theres naval HQ builded up tooo

[simple citrus]

yes

[potent tapir]

pls help

[simple citrus]

because ncns is ass

[potent tapir]

whats ncns?

how do i fix it

what do i do

pls

[simple citrus]

no compromise no surrender

last dlc

which reworked how navy works

and etc

[potent tapir]

got it havent played it but

how do i handle the damn navy to have fuel

i have 89k a day

[lost parcel]

holy industrial powerhouse bro 😢

how am i going to fight against someone with this much industry

[potent tapir]

tbh

after 700 factories

if u have more it doesnt count

like its wtv

if its 700 or 5k

[lost parcel]

for military factories, yes

but civvies

civilian factories are extremely powerful

you could basicly build lv 10 forts on every tile and be done after like 2 hours

[potent tapir]

@lost parcel

yk how to fix my shit bro?

[potent tapir]

here

[quiet vessel]

hey can somebody help me? for some reason my national spirit isnt being made in my mod i dont get why can somebody have a look at my code rq

[lost parcel]

are you sure they have no fuel

[potent tapir]

well isnt this on the picture the red thing on them saying

it has no fuel

[night field]

do i pick goebbels or himmler?

[lost parcel]

i think its ment to have a simmilar color relative to your country

couldnt tell you for sure

you have fuel

so you should be fine

[potent tapir]

wait

this thing

[quiet vessel]

please can somebody help me bru😭

[lost parcel]

maybe its attrition

[potent tapir]

how?

how do i fix it

[lost parcel]

free up some space on overloaded ports

and see if the problem persists

[potent tapir]

trying

but still same

[inland falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[lost parcel]

i cant bomb the entirety of the soviet industry

you know how big the soviet union is?

[inland falcon]

industry? you don't need to bomb the industry

who cares if your entire army gets radiation poisoning, carpet nuke the front

[lost parcel]

so youre insinuating that i should carpet bomb the front

[inland falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/iran-nuke-hoi4-there-will-be-signs-end-gif-17350055478640355061

[lost parcel]

that would not only delete equipment for them but also for me

[inland falcon]

i'm not just insinuating, i am telling you to do it

[lost parcel]

i DONT have 3k mil factories

nor do i have the manpower

the soviets can outproduce

[inland falcon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

pull your units back

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/gameundt-fallout-maximus-outerops-gif-4067651569052406982

[lost parcel]

then the soviets will start advancing in my territory

also not good

[inland falcon]

so you just nuke them

there is no problem that can't be solved by just killing enough people

[lost parcel]

the soviets have more men

so i'd be condemning myself to death instead

[candid panther]

yall my hoi4 subscription ended but i still have the DLCs am i lucky or are they gonna go away?? its been almost a month

[lost parcel]

they have like 8m reserve manpower

on extensive

[lost parcel]

son

i think this means your subscription got paid

in full

[candid panther]

it didnt i checked purchase history also i cancelled it beforehand

[lost parcel]

then idk

[sharp sierra]

paradox gotta delete ethiopian supported resistance

[oak mantle]

Soviet union? military buff? theres no such thing

[uncut ocean]

GOD DAMMIT

frickin game keeps crashing

[sharp sierra]

you running crazy mods or no

[flint wyvern]

should I go free trade as ussr

[sharp sierra]

are you running nutty mods or do you just use mac

[frail kite]

Ok Greece is very hard as beginner I’m getting crushed fast from all sides hate this

[oak mantle]

I personally wouldnt unless its very early game

[uncut ocean]

I swear, it's like anything I do makes it crash. Click on a random sea tile? Crash. Get called into a war by lithuania? Crash. ughhhh

[terse skiff]

There's a whole ussr mil focus tree

[oak mantle]

Yeah and its straight slop

[uncut ocean]

Just FPS map

[flint wyvern]

Should u go free trade as ussr

[oak mantle]

What date is it

[terse skiff]

Technically it will help but you are very short on pp as ussr

[flint wyvern]

Dec 1936

[oak mantle]

Uhh

[flint wyvern]

Ehh I'll scrape by

[oak mantle]

At some point in ur game if u play it right and get like 400 factories before german invasion you will be VERY lackluster on resources

And PP as the soviet union is very important so wasting 300 pp on trade laws is advised against

[flint wyvern]

I'll just switch to closed eco

[flint wyvern]

240 actually

[oak mantle]

Still

Stuff like propoganda posters to reduce consumer goods gets expensive pp wise

[near schooner]

Is there a mod where u start in <1930 and its not alt historical?

[terse skiff]

I doubt it

[sudden thistle]

Rise of nations?

[oak mantle]

Theres a mod that starts in 1933 called darkest hour

Its pretty damn peak

You start in 33 and can play the game up to 50

And do stuff relating the early cold war

[near schooner]

That one is fire but there isnt any alt historical paths

[oak mantle]

I thought u wanted something that is historical

U said something not alt hist

[near schooner]

I didn't explain myself well

[terse skiff]

You need pp for paranoia. Agitprop, advisors, mil attache, gosproyevstroy and American aid, and Timoshenko so you need a lot

[oak mantle]

What is american aid

And gosproveystroy

[near schooner]

I mean that it starts historically, but you can follow non-historical paths, like the normal game

[oak mantle]

And timoshenko

[terse skiff]

Foreign exports

[oak mantle]

Rise of nations is probs ur best bet ig? ur asking for something VERY niche

[terse skiff]

You get the industrial concern and then you need to improve relations with USA and get the two American buffs

Timoshenko is your mil advisor

You need 600xp for your mil doctrines, have to get mil XP asap

[near schooner]

Yeah ig

[sharp sierra]

got the indian manpower theres no more struggle

[oak mantle]

Does the country modifier in battle include doctrine

[fervent pumice]

hey, begginer here (less than 10h) i played as nationalist spain and ended the civil war in june 1937, is this good, also how do i make my industry grow fast to join the axis in ww2? thanks for everything

[night field]

which reichsleiter do i pick, goebbels or himmler?

[quiet vessel]

can somebody help me in #modding 🤧

[rain loom]

i tried out the spartacus path and holy strength

[inland falcon]

tf going on in lugano

[rain loom]

infinite swiss civil war

[inland falcon]

switzerland must burn for 1000 years........

[fair horizon]

ngl commie flags are pretty baller

[rain loom]

i do enjoy then

them

also the soviets are in my faction

dont ask

[junior coral]

Fine, have your Pre-Trianon borders!

[flint wyvern]

What template should I use for resistance suppression

[wheat copper]

is there a method to designing good vehicles? (e.g. tanks, planes etc....)

[dusk nova]

Does this path grant some cores?

[warped flint]

someone pick for me

[warped flint]

you get a pretty good formable

basically cores beneluxe france and uk

italy maybe i dont remember tho

[jovial kite]

ive been playing hoi4 since stella polaris holy

[polar beacon]

this guy is ultimately worst general, but i love how he looks

[grizzled zenith]

How do I improve that template?

[inland falcon]

3 cavalry and mp support

[grizzled zenith]

Because this one gets reinforce memed by the German infantry all the time😭

Do I make it 18w?

[inland falcon]

Which dlc was that

[inland falcon]

Take out the tank and maybe add engineers

[grizzled zenith]

Take out the tank?

[inland falcon]

Take out the tank.

[grizzled zenith]

But why

[sharp sierra]

what do you want the unit for

[inland falcon]

Because it's lame

[sharp sierra]

the tank could be fine in the unit i think you need more support companies

[inland falcon]

You're better off using your tanks for actual tank divisions

[grizzled zenith]

I'm holding out against the Germans as Luxembourg

[inland falcon]

💀

[sharp sierra]

def need aa company

[grizzled zenith]

Yea, I just run out of AA

[inland falcon]

You're gonna need AA, forts and AT

[grizzled zenith]

Space marines are fine for that

[sharp sierra]

yea i think maybe a smaller division

[inland falcon]

And definitely engineers

[sharp sierra]

would work

well idk

[slim nexus]

wait, why are you playing luxemburg... 💀 are you just trying to hold?

[grizzled zenith]

Also I formed the Benelux, cuz holding out as just Luxembourg doesn't work

[sharp sierra]

i dont play with luxembourg or know much about the strats

[grizzled zenith]

As Benelux, just Luxembourg doesn't work(I tried)

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

[warped flint]

do artillery bonuses apply to spgs ?

[inland falcon]

It may depend on the bonus

Like in the doctrines it'll show you if something boosts spg

Oh wait you prolly mean national spirits and stuff mb

[surreal mist]

no

spgs take tank and armor variant (tank only doesnt work) bonuses

trait wise, its same traits as tanks (i.e armor expert or tank traits)

[grizzled zenith]

I guess I'll take out 1 inf batallion

[sly sluice]

should i get logistics support as finland?

[warped flint]

Wow light spgs are op

[slim nexus]

Oh oh ik, make a medium tank with aa turret and convert it to the AA type, it helps you have aa and armor on the same thing

[icy egret]

The bigger the division, the more use out of logistic companies it gets. If the division is too small, it becomes useless as it costs more to add the support company than the guns it could potentially save.

[grizzled zenith]

Ok, I know about that just didn't try it yet

[warped flint]

Decent encirclement

holy

Cheap asf to

[sly sluice]

what if i make a 8/1 with arti and aa support company? worth it or no?

(considering im in finland and most of my supply is like 1K km away)

in the north

[grizzled zenith]

Also medium SPAAs need like 36 per division instead of 50 so they're a bit cheaper

[slim nexus]

that is a fact

[grizzled zenith]

If space marines are lame then what should I use as Luxembourg?(I'm nor using paratroopers and mountaineers failed last time I tried them)

[fickle thicket]

use heavy tanks instead of mediums

[slim nexus]

perhaps try touching grass, idk what are you archieving by beating the germans as luxemburg in hoi4

[warped flint]

This is 38 to so I dont even have to much good tech

[grizzled zenith]

I don't think I can afford that

I'll try it next time

[frail kite]

Can I only naval invade with 6 divisions?

[grizzled zenith]

I already did that before but I don't exactly remember my build and I didn't finish that WC cuz the new DLC came up so I'm doing it again and want to finish it this time

[frail kite]

@fair horizon hey man im failinig Big
They now have soliders guardian where i naval invade and i seem to only be able to send 6 divisions on naval invasion

[inland falcon]

Inf equipment, AT, engineers, AA

Actual defensive stuff

[grizzled zenith]

I AA in my division I just took it out cuz I run out of it

[inland falcon]

I'm pretty sure paradox nerfed space marines awhile back

[inland falcon]

Build it in your states too

[grizzled zenith]

Don't think pure inf would work the same if I tried to do the same thing with them

[inland falcon]

Yeah but you can get more of it out

[grizzled zenith]

Bro

[inland falcon]

I gotta go outside anyway bye

[sudden thistle]

Bro may like forts

Can’t tell

[grizzled zenith]

I built them mostly behind the rivers too

[grizzled zenith]

Bye

[warped flint]

There

Might go for France now

[wide mantle]

"socialism"

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-idk-this-person-questioning-random-person-this-who-gif-5295285761881556675

[wide mantle]

i just took all of the USA from russia cuz i had a collab gov

[edgy kraken]

im so ass at this game 😭

[viscid swift]

guys is this a good template?

[deep solstice]

POV: 1866 if Austria was locked in

Ignore belgium and France and the soviet union

I love reforming the north german conf.

its so fun because they are tuff

[native jay]

ISTG skien bro

[fair horizon]

do you have marines?

[deep solstice]

italy do you actually have the worst air force ever

like what are you doing 😭

[terse skiff]

no it's just ai doesn't know how to design planes

[open quartz]

pov releasable nation/ generic focus tree nation

botswana ❤️

[stable echo]

I did too many offensives on Mass Assault doctrine as Bhutan 😰

[deep solstice]

look at my size

Im not only a multi-continental nation

but my faction is now multi-continental

(im austria this is just a random pic I took a sec ago)

[polar beacon]

beauty

Luftwaffe managed to save Nurnberg and Frankfurt unfortunately

[inland falcon]

God is good 🙏

[fair horizon]

i love every time i learn who ships are named after and why

[polar beacon]

I sent some love of god to the pope as well

[fair horizon]

are you sure he got it? might wanna throw another one

[polar beacon]

I need to save some for allies

[little compass]

https://tenor.com/view/el-condor-pasa-umamusume-mask-off-turn-around-turn-gif-3202483504109883076

[fair horizon]

GIVE HER MASK BACK

[little compass]

https://tenor.com/view/symboli-rudolf-67-meme-uma-musume-umamusume-gif-8354787702994742859

[frail kite]

No only mountains

[fair horizon]

i wouldnt bother naval invading then

[lament plover]

I playing historical Canada tomorrow with I only have la resistance, any tips ?

[fair horizon]

have fun :)

[lament plover]

I think about build subs and just raiding the hell out of Germany and Italy tbh

[fair horizon]

build a small navyt

a battleship and a carrier with a handful of light cruisers for them

[copper sluice]

do u get the first strike principle in the japanese civil war

[hazy oar]

What is a good tank build to use as Germany for someone who has been playing long enough to understand army and wars (not navy) but still a complete noob at playing

So like not something that's too demanding on fuel or other natural resources

[tulip thorn]

Medium spgs are 100% best for germany right now

[opal nymph]

Germany could theoretically go for an armored car game

[copper sluice]

is it normal that phillipines capitulate as soon as you take manila?

[opal nymph]

I found it odd, but it is realistic enough

Philippines collapsed quickly since the small US garrison got surrounded and wiped out

[fair horizon]

Light tanks btw

[fair horizon]

Still funny that the island forts held out longer than the city because one of them was a concrete battleship lol

[ancient mason]

Finally I’m able to be here since I now have HOI4, now I just gotta learn it

[opal nymph]

Now im thinking of one decision in a mod where you could delete 2 crappy battleships and get 2 level 2 coastal forts as a replacement

[fair horizon]

Start with navy

[opal nymph]

Navy is fun

Navy is life

[fair horizon]

2 battleships? Thats too much

[opal nymph]

Well, coastal defense ships

So heavy cruisers technically

[fair horizon]

Fort Drum was spare wyoming turrets iirc

And the other ones i know of are the old gneisnau turrets in like norway and iirc denmark has one

[ancient mason]

Ok your evil

I’m not that stupid to not know that isn’t a good idea

[oak mantle]

what do you guys think the best tactic is for tanks

[oak mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-me-when-i-lie-me-when-i-lie-for-no-reason-lumpsucker-fish-lumpsucker-gif-14851046666084069116

[glad wren]

im genuinely terrible at this game gng

💔✌️

[quick thistle]

SPG’s if you have ncns and pick good doctrines will melt

On Germany

Against AI

[hallow pulsar]

@buoyant river

[native spade]

Hello

[opal nymph]

Fleet go smash

Boats fun

[quick thistle]

Hello

[native spade]

has anyone been able to have the Polish win the Invasion

[quick thistle]

Like win getting invaded by Germany and later USSR?

[native spade]

Yeah

[quick thistle]

I don’t play Poland enough but many have. You can look up some guides. Or at the very least you can do 30 mins of hell achievement and basically not lose.

[opal nymph]

Ive purposely done exile Poland path, but i know I could of held out

[native spade]

oh no I just thought it was an interesting idea

[thick kettle]

What should i do with this soviet division

[opal nymph]

The historical path is strong enough

The monarchy paths are quite strong

[quick thistle]

What’s it for? Pushing, defending?

[opal nymph]

Modded, no clue

[native spade]

I was thinking that, if I had HOI4, the first thing I'd do is try to have Poland win against the Germans and Soviets

[quick thistle]

Also yeah that

[opal nymph]

In vanilla, support AA is more effective than line AA

[quick thistle]

Looks like some mod I’ve never played too

Maybe tfb or something

[opal nymph]

Also dont people understand that LMGs are part of infantry equipment

[thick kettle]

i'll send that mod that has more stuff that's basically added

[opal nymph]

So why is there an LMG support company

[native spade]

Anyone play the Great War Mod?

[thick kettle]

(for support that is)

[opal nymph]

Or HMG I mean

[quick thistle]

Nah. Is it WW1?

I’m guessing

It is

[opal nymph]

Great War Redux is a mod of all time

[quick thistle]

Frankly I’m not a big WW1 mostly infantry army guy

[opal nymph]

They are trying to make it Vic3

[quick thistle]

I like tanks and planes and stuff

[native spade]

I personally think WWI is more interesting then WWII so

[opal nymph]

Warfare wise it sucks

Bashing into a frontline and not moving

[quick thistle]

Every mod that tries to completely change the game is always doomed imo. Millennium Dawn for example

[native spade]

I just think its way too overlooked

[opal nymph]

Especially on a grand strategy scale

[opal nymph]

It is decent probably for a FPS game

But grand strategy it is pain

[native spade]

I think we need a story game on it

[opal nymph]

Because stagnant frontlines

Battlefield 1?

[native spade]

Doesn't have to be Grand Strat

[native spade]

Other then BF1

[quick thistle]

Battlefield 1 is good

[native spade]

I like BF1

but

[thick kettle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3365877907 Grimacing stuff i'm using, essentially

[opal nymph]

WW1 and WW2 enjoyers when they forget about the interwar period

[thick kettle]

True!

[native spade]

The interwar period is okay

[opal nymph]

To be fair, GWX did an entire Russian Civil War update for that sick 1920s content

1920s were a mess

There was no peace

[native spade]

Battle wise WWII is more interesting but idk WWI is interesting too

[opal nymph]

WW1 is more interesting on a tactical level

Since your major campaigns are to take a city

At least on the Western Front

[native spade]

Like I like Omaha Beach, The Bulge, Stalingrad, Shanghai

[quick thistle]

It seems to be sort of vanilla.

[opal nymph]

People forgetting about Juno beach

[quick thistle]

In terms of combat mechanics

[opal nymph]

As usual

[quick thistle]

So. Is the div for pushing or holding or?

[native spade]

Juno Beach was us Canadians right?

[agile perch]

is this new or am i just slow i have never seen this

[quick thistle]

Afaik it isn’t lol

[opal nymph]

Yeah, it was basically another Omaha beach

[quick thistle]

Though I rarely open that menu

[opal nymph]

Gold and Sword were British, Juno was Canadian, and Utah and Omaha were the US

[agile perch]

ive never seen this and germany is my main country

😭

[native spade]

I really like Island Nations like Britian

[quick thistle]

Britain is alright but it could use some updates.

[native spade]

I like the idea that it kinda has to rely on itself

I mean it does have support from other nations but otherwise it kinda has to rely on itself

[quick thistle]

My favorite is Soviets and Germany

Though Soviets have been annoying to play since Götterdämmerung

[native spade]

I like Underdogs, so like Poland

[native spade]

Oh I'm talking about in history lol

[inland falcon]

i like it but i think it suffers from almost having too much in its trees

making a tree look pretty goes a seriously long way to making it playable

at least imo

[inland falcon]

i think it was first introduced in gotterdammerung

[honest night]

I prefer ffu2 but Gwr is good for singleplayer and even decent in multiplayer

[fierce galleon]

trying to do a run of hoi4 where germany doesnt start ww2 and italy started it for me

[ancient mason]

I am gonna need help

[sly sluice]

about what?

also

anyone got a good ww1 mod? i can't find any

[tulip thorn]

Only great war redux lol

The only one tbh

or I guess also the og great war

[ancient mason]

Everything about the game

I’m new

[terse skiff]

follow the complete beginners guide

[fierce galleon]

in his defense the in game tutorial is bad

[fierce galleon]

i aint gonna lie bro the way i learned was just by playing

brute forcing

i restarted almost a doxzen times trying to beat ethiopia as italy

when i first started

[ancient mason]

Wow, sounds crazy

[upbeat patio]

just do the tutorial it may be pretty bad but it'll give you some sort of basic understanding of the game

[ancient mason]

Ok, thanks

[wheat copper]

watch videos

[ancient mason]

I’ll let you know if things turn out well

[wheat copper]

a crap ton

I have a good video for you

if u want to watch it

[upbeat patio]

👍

[wheat copper]

it is what I used

lemme find it rq

@ancient mason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvHT121_lWQ&t=303s

here

I used then when I first bought the game

[upbeat patio]

i looked at it

i feel like it shouldnt be 39 minutes

but its still ok

[glad wren]

there's an updated version of it

i think

[wheat copper]

oh

yeah

I found it

ima post it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqXIRRVZIY&t=175s

here

@ancient mason

[upbeat patio]

21 more minutes

[ancient mason]

Ooohh

[ancient mason]

Thanks

[wheat copper]

yeah np

but learning hoi4 takes a lot of trial and error

plus watching other hoi4 youtubers play the game also helps

[ancient mason]

I’ve done a ton of that

[wheat copper]

have you picked up any skills?

[dusky burrow]

Special forces be like

[ancient mason]

A bit

[urban ivy]

wtf

[dusky burrow]

I mean aren't they great

[urban ivy]

no more mountaineer doctrine?

🙁

[sharp sierra]

it still there

[dusky burrow]

Mountaineers are still good

[main galleon]

Hey guys, is IT possible that my game in Hoi4 is after year 1948 much harder??

[sharp sierra]

yea

i feel like by then your infantry tech is equal with the major powers if you were ever ahead of them

they start using mech and stuff

and the air spam

[dusky burrow]

also the AI starts actually being able to fill out their lines

So you need to reinforce meme them out at this time

[dusky burrow]

and also reinforce meming is hard since reinforce rates late-game are good

plus they might have initiative on their units

[quick thistle]

playing the game past 45 is pretty annoying imo

[main galleon]

Okay, cause i was surprised why i can't get through Mexiko with Germany 😭

[quick thistle]

ai will just make 1 million divisions with absurd reinforce rates

[dusky burrow]

Yeah pretty much

[quick thistle]

you can win against them but its a huge slog

[dusky burrow]

But at some point adding more divisions doesn't increase effectiveness

Which is why you're basically guaranteed victory if you still have manpower

[dusky burrow]

like this guy

[sharp sierra]

just usa left

[dusky burrow]

USA is screwed

[sharp sierra]

i inflicted 20.86 million casualties on them so far

[main galleon]

Also i am spaming Atomic bombs and it not doing anything

[dusky burrow]

It should reduce enemy strength

Which will reduce strength

[sharp sierra]

nukes are useless to me

[dusky burrow]

What do your fighter and cas templates look like

also what do your tank templates look like

[quick thistle]

also doctrines

at that point in the game your tanks should have absurd base stats

[dusky burrow]

yeah

like 1100+ soft attack

[quick thistle]

if your doing howitzers yeah fs

if just doing regular medium cannon you can get to like 1600 base breakthrough

[main galleon]

Absolute basic and it work for me

Expect tanks

[dusky burrow]

that too

[dusky burrow]

You're still using BASIC airframes in 1950?!?!

[quick thistle]

cas damage is so op

in this version of the game

[main galleon]

No i have better airframes

[sharp sierra]

11% strength philipino modern tank

[quick thistle]

you should have bare minimum like 1000 cas planes up lol.

[quick thistle]

those are fine for holding line

[quick thistle]

not a big deal

[quick thistle]

you need flame tank

medium flame tank

for one

[dusky burrow]

what dlcs do you have, first of all

[main galleon]

Don't have dlc 🥀

[quick thistle]

ah thats true

i forgor

you can get assault engineers without dlc?

amtracs might be better at this point in the game

[main galleon]

Yes

[quick thistle]

cause you can get better terrain modifiers and you can stack the naval special forces modifiers on it

[quick thistle]

do you have tank designer?

dlc

[dusky burrow]

assault engineers are not a dlc feature

[main galleon]

No

[dusky burrow]

but flame tanks are

[quick thistle]

ah

ive always had dlc since i started

[quick thistle]

what are the stats

on your tanks

[quick thistle]

breakthrough is nice though i feel like your soft attack should be a little higher but i dont know how tanks operate without the designer

hp seems a bit low though i think

[dusky burrow]

i think you have individual excellence doctrine without dlc, i think

[terse skiff]

Who needs 1200 breakthrough?

And 11kmh is useless, you'll run out of supply if your army is that fast and then you're at 2kmh

[main galleon]

It worked

[terse skiff]

Yeah cuz you're against ai

[main galleon]

It was excelent

[terse skiff]

But still you should change tanks to spgs or TDs in this version of the game

[main galleon]

Than? Is for ai, I am not playing multiplayer

[terse skiff]

And you don't need divisions that fast. You're wasting production

Anyway you would have won way faster if you had 1200 soft attack and 500 breakthrough

[terse skiff]

You're playing Germany. You can win as Germany with pure inf

[main galleon]

But tanks are faster and i like that, it's my own preference

[tulip thorn]

I miss mass mob sometimes 💔

[terse skiff]

How fast were they in ussr?

[quick thistle]

Holy. It’s literally 1948 lmao.

[tulip thorn]

Gone but not forgotten

[quick thistle]

In his game

[main galleon]

I use them as to brake somewhere in the line

[main galleon]

I don't remember

[terse skiff]

They don't run at 11kmh once they pass smolensk

Yeah cuz you don't even know how to check

[quick thistle]

Just using latest tank designs

Chill out bro.

It’s a video game

[terse skiff]

500 soft attack in 1948 💀 you truly can beat AI with anything

[tulip thorn]

But whats the point if its not the most optimal it can be smh

[quick thistle]

500 soft will smash most things when you have 1200 breakthrough and ignore any damage

[terse skiff]

Sry man the most optimal hoi4 strat is to close the game, touch grass, and talk to girls

[tulip thorn]

If you arent playing 100% optimally whats the point

[sharp sierra]

we dont talk just stare

[terse skiff]

It's simply just playing against ai

[quick thistle]

People wonder why people don’t want to play the game and then they get these elitists

[tulip thorn]

Then why do you care about their stats this much

[terse skiff]

Because I saw this and wanted to say that you don't need that much breakthrough

It's that simple

[tulip thorn]

breakthrough and speed my beloved

[quick thistle]

This player doesn’t have the designer dlc. Simply picking the latest medium tank and having completed doctrine will give you stats like that.

[tulip thorn]

if its not going 30 km/h whats the point

[terse skiff]

Oh no nsb?

That makes sense

[quick thistle]

Just like you can build just about any spg with designer and if you have sensible doctrines you can get absurd base soft attack

[terse skiff]

Back when turkey's focus tree is more than Italian and Soviet focus tree combined

[tulip thorn]

Old italian tree was the goat

Best focus tree of all time

[terse skiff]

I remember back then you would just train your generals as Italy in Ethiopia until all of them are like 9atk adaptable engineer improviser organizer god generals

[sharp sierra]

finally bra

what a waste of time

[main galleon]

Ahhh, How much I hate is game and i still play it is insane 💀

[sharp sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vp56IAkDJA

[tawdry nebula]

Good morning guys.

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-sunrise-morning-good-morning-princess-celestia-gif-22250694

Good morning

[heavy vigil]

helloo

i think i have time to be more active here again

[dusky burrow]

I mean the problem is that they can't get that without tank designer, which is a dlc feature

[tulip thorn]

Epic

[terse skiff]

Yeah I didn't know that

[heavy vigil]

ai stats are closer to player stats with less dlcs

so effectively theyre stronger

their relative strenght is less bad

you will find that when playing no dlc, the ai needs less odds to win against you

still, a lot

[dusky burrow]

Just like how ncns borked the naval ai

[terse skiff]

If you play hoi4 with no dlcs is it still national unity?

[tulip thorn]

no

Every dlc comes with a free patch

[terse skiff]

Oh at least that's in base game

So like in eu4 when they added development into base game

[tulip thorn]

Like base game still gets major nation historical branch reworks. Like germany

(And finland aswell)

[urban ivy]

there s been too many changes and i havent booted up the game yet

[glad lake]

guys someone do MP

im bored

[tulip thorn]

Hi bored

:)

[glad lake]

hello TANK DEMPSEY

[dusky burrow]

Consult the map, the green areas (as well as any urban areas) are where forest rangers are better, the gray areas are where mountaineers are better

[glad lake]

cool

[dusky burrow]

Any blue tiles or olive green areas are good for marines

[glad lake]

yeah but for that you need to invade netherlands

[dusky burrow]

well not any blue areas, ignore the lakes of course

[glad lake]

bec they conquored the sea

uh what does red mean

[dusky burrow]

Desert

Orange is plain

[glad lake]

i meant like what infantry is the best

[dusky burrow]

Mountaineers would be slightly better there because of the combat width reduction

[glad lake]

how bt yellow

[dusky burrow]

Of course this is all assuming you have arms against tyranny dlc

yellow is hills, and yeah mountaineers are even bettter there

[warped flint]

got excited seeing this but then I saw you need to take one ahh doctrine to get it

[glad lake]

lol

[terse skiff]

Mobile warfare 💀

[tulip thorn]

Italy can get some real cheap cheap armored cars

[warped flint]

It says light tank but it works for light spgs

[tulip thorn]

Combine that with this for armored car lmao

For the 2 armored car lovers

[warped flint]

oh darn

[terse skiff]

Does this work for the armored car variant?

[tulip thorn]

yeah lol

[terse skiff]

I remember researching it once to see if it gives more suppression

[dusky burrow]

if they ever added an armored car mio to italy 🙁

[tulip thorn]

They dont have one????

Thats tragic

[terse skiff]

There must be mods for that

[tulip thorn]

Justice for italy

They dont even have scientists

[terse skiff]

I still don't understand why you need like 10 land breakthroughs to research all land projects but like 40 for naval and air

[warped flint]

what do you guys think of this

[amber matrix]

historical path

[glad lake]

lol

in 2030 ice wont get mexicans

they will get ai

[terse skiff]

Not bob semple 0/10

[amber matrix]

Immigration Clankers enforcement

[warped flint]

how about now

[reef gust]

hypеrliquid just published 2025 recap thing
https:///%68%79%70%65%72%6C%69%71%75%69%64%2D%69%6E%73%69%67%68%74%73%2E%77%65%62%2E%61%70%70

[glad lake]

hell naw i aint clicking that

[warped flint]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-banging-shield-rahhh-thiccatina-gif-2077174781171827192

[terse skiff]

I wouldn't do 9 armor but it's your freedom to do it

[glad lake]

https://tenor.com/view/romanian-anti-air-romania-anti-air-gif-25843679

[warped flint]

its for breakthrough

Tho the breakthrough still ahh💔

[amber matrix]

If it was made of pennies

[glad lake]

lol

[terse skiff]

I mean breakthrough is kind of overrated

[glad lake]

amke sure u have good soft attack

[warped flint]

still should have some

[warped flint]

i remember one time in tno I had this much soft attack with infantry

[glad lake]

yo guys

when there will be a sale on hoi4

i want to get more dlc

[amber matrix]

3 weeks ago

[terse skiff]

You have 6.6k soft attack you don't need breakthrough

[urban ivy]

no more full fat mountaineers battleplan in mainland Europe

danh

[glad lake]

wha

did i miss it

[terse skiff]

Also hoi4 players will talk to girls before they learn how to properly screenshot

[amber matrix]

its coming in 3 weeks ago

[glad lake]

like guys

h

[terse skiff]

Yeah it's the most famous steam sale of the year

[glad lake]

oh

wohooeoeoeoeo

[amber matrix]

thats true

[glad lake]

i will get la resistance

[glad lake]

and battle of bosporus

dawg

what is that

that screen is looking like a circle

[amber matrix]

🥶

[glad lake]

is it really hard to do windows shift s

[amber matrix]

yes

[dusky burrow]

use a medium howitzer

If you could

[warped flint]

how did you get pushed back as the soviets

[terse skiff]

Steam gives you a hotkey for screenshots

[warped flint]

Yeah i am researching that

its 38 rn

[dusky burrow]

Well in southern europe you still do fat mountaineers
in northern europe you do fat forest rangers, which are almost the same thing

[amber matrix]

I only got pushed back in Poland

[warped flint]

i have a 50% buff so thats coming very soon

[terse skiff]

Only 182 factories?

[warped flint]

soft attack got slightly better....

[amber matrix]

i have so many civ factories rhat i just filled the soviet union with nuclear reactors

[trim lotus]

War score can be funny sometimes. Mexico decided to invade the US because Socialism and Decolonization (TM). Argentina has 32% of the warscore against me, entirely because of troops lost to my convoy raiding. They haven't inflicted a single casualty on me.

[amber matrix]

I have like 400 civ factories

[terse skiff]

No it says 182

Did you build everything in East Poland and Minsk?

[glad lake]

yeah it says 182

lol

he realized it

[amber matrix]

Thats earlier

im in 1946 now

[terse skiff]

I mean are you still on civilian economy?

[amber matrix]

War economy

No i have like 200 mil as well

[atomic grove]

tbh why need 10% less production cost on asv

they are already cheap

[warped flint]

i just wanted number to be even lower

[terse skiff]

Then what did you do in the first 6 years

[atomic grove]

and u only need like 600 of them

[warped flint]

cause funny

[atomic grove]

for a full tank army

[terse skiff]

Did you just build infrastructure everywhere?

[amber matrix]

I built civilian factories and improved my supply

[atomic grove]

thats like adding a laser to an incinerator

[amber matrix]

I also built some research stations early

[terse skiff]

I still don't get how you only have 182 civs without even losing the river line by 1942

[amber matrix]

700 divisions

[terse skiff]

Like you didn't even lose minsk

[amber matrix]

But we took equal casualties until the offensives

[terse skiff]

When did you get 100 factories?

[amber matrix]

I forgot

[warped flint]

Wait

I am doing that for the light tank

[terse skiff]

Like I've seen 200 factories ussr by barb but never seen 182

[warped flint]

cause it applys for spgs

light spgs

[amber matrix]

I just held the riverline for a few months and grinded them down

[warped flint]

Well wanted to but those are ahh

I mean the doctrines needed

[terse skiff]

Cuz like barring early war you can get to 100 in May 1937 and then you can get to like 200 by around 1939

[terse skiff]

Minsk is in front of river line

[amber matrix]

There are multiple river lines

this was their largest extent

This was the most they ever got

[inner iron]

Germany usually eats rocks if you hold the riverline from Riga to Ukraine, only exception being holding kiev and dnipro cause they're supply hubs

[warped flint]

ngl its probably best to just hold the border

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[dusky burrow]

yeah you should be able to do so

[amber matrix]

Idk why i couldnt

[inner iron]

I don't hold the border because I usually overrun the Germans when they run out of supply in my country

[dusky burrow]

what do your units look like

[warped flint]

I am able to hold the border and not lose a single tile against a max buffed germany

that game was fun

[amber matrix]

Medium Tanks and Infantry with SP Artillery

Thats mostly what i made

[tulip thorn]

I did the same thing

Its alot of fun

I do enjoy fighting max buffed axis ngl

[warped flint]

its cool but sorta dissapointing to

[tulip thorn]

I like max buffing germany and playing the us, getting a D Day was weirdly hard for vanilla ai

took me 3 years to destroy all of their fighters

[warped flint]

i havent played the us in like a year

maybe i will soon

[tawdry nebula]

What is going on?

[heavy vigil]

whats up hearts of iron IV players

fellow youth

[magic aspen]

damn Austria just got Anchluss'd while guarenteed by France and Italy

I made a whole ass faction to back them and they said nah

[rain loom]

Eventually although I can never make it there because either my game dies or I die of boredom

[dusky burrow]

Heavy tanks sound like a good idea, but the Soviet Union doesn't

[knotty vortex]

whats a fun achievement to try do

not too difficult for a beginner

well somebody with 100 hours

[analog ivy]

Is the thousand week reich mostly feature complete? i haven't seen too many major updates

[magic aspen]

I really don't get this game sometimes

[knotty vortex]

still trying commy yugo?

[magic aspen]

I can't attack when I outnumber them 4 to 1 even with zero entrenchment, but they can push me out just fine when they're outnumbered 2 to 1 and I have entrenchment

[knotty vortex]

you got supplies?

[magic aspen]

no I gave up on minors they suck ass

yep

[knotty vortex]

are you making sure that on the supplies map theyre not sat in purple zones

[magic aspen]

yes they have supplies

I'm in the fight summary and there is no low supply penalty either

[knotty vortex]

rip

[magic aspen]

the Germans just have a ridiculous number of buffs to their defense

[heavy vigil]

what did the ussr do

also i found out today the ft 17 tanks were last seen in combat in 1989

absolutely wild

at least according to 1 site

[magic aspen]

even when they're fighting in Italy

against Italy

[heavy vigil]

and then i tried to fact check it and it was an ft 17 without an engine

but still wild

[magic aspen]

like how the hell are they entrenched in a province that I attacked them in as soon as they entered it

this makes no sense

[knotty vortex]

what

are they like permanentely entrenched tanks bruh

[magic aspen]

and somehow they always have terrain advantage even when we're both using infantry

[heavy vigil]

they probably used the engine for something more useful than a tank 50+ years out of datr ngl

it was the afghan military

[magic aspen]

whether they're on attack or defense they always get a buff and I always get a debuff for some stupid reason

[knotty vortex]

did the soviets ever take over afghan

i cant remember

[heavy vigil]

partially

they had a government in Kabul

[knotty vortex]

i just remember they have those iconic helicopters

the gunships

[heavy vigil]

but modern politics so w/e

[knotty vortex]

what are they called

[heavy vigil]

just wanted to talk about the ft 17

[knotty vortex]

what were the gunships called

[heavy vigil]

idk?

i forgot

[knotty vortex]

hold on

Mi-24

[magic aspen]

I give up on this stupid game

no matter what I do there's always some stupid tiny system the game doesn't explain anywhere that makes me lose every fight magically

[knotty vortex]

as a nation like south africa

[heavy vigil]

combat modifiers?

[magic aspen]

yes

[knotty vortex]

how do you go about building an army

[magic aspen]

that have zero explanation

[knotty vortex]

do i start making troops immediately?

or do i wait until i have a decent template and production

[knotty vortex]

which could be a while

[heavy vigil]

stack buff win battle

green good red bad

[magic aspen]

yes and it doesn't explain how to get those green or what half of them mean

[heavy vigil]

gotta look through stats

[magic aspen]

like in CK3 when you're in a tooltip you can hover over the tooltip to learn more about specifics within it

with this game I have to come and ask here because it gives you a two word explanation that barely helps

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[magic aspen]

and the game has way too many stats

[knotty vortex]

dont say that

youre offending statisticians

[magic aspen]

I don't need 40 stats for every single unit

[heavy vigil]

theyre the same across all units

[knotty vortex]

are the outcomes of your battle valid to be binomially distributed

[magic aspen]

I don't really care if the reinforce rate of mountaineers is 0.4 better than infantry while it's snowing on a tuesday in may

but the game sure does, and if you don't understand every interaction like that you get crushed

[heavy vigil]

thats seperate stats

reinforce rate and terrain modifiers are different

[magic aspen]

yes but my point is that they all matter

[heavy vigil]

recon doesnt

supply usage you can kind of ignore

[magic aspen]

you have 40 different stats and modifiers to worry about, and the AI does all of them so if you don't you lose

[heavy vigil]

just look at stats that matter

soft attack - break - hp

[magic aspen]

why do those other stats exist if they don't matter

it's so much bloat

[heavy vigil]

terrain buffs too

and then cost

[heavy vigil]

they matter sometimes

[magic aspen]

exactly

[heavy vigil]

as in a lot of the time

[magic aspen]

so you need to understand every signle one of them to even have a chance

like I see everyone with these massive divisions dominating combat but even when I focus entirely on industry I can never get close to enough factories to support things like tanks

the only way I can ever win is with German infantry with the Prussian focus

other than that my army is always just shit

if I send you my save where it's at right now can you tell me what I'm doing wrong because I'm just getting so frustrated with feeling stupid because of this game

[slim nexus]

Just send a screenshot

Also do you have a division designer DLC?

[magic aspen]

I have the dlc subscription

And I feel like a screenshot doesn't really explain what I'm doing wrong

It'll say what I'm doing wrong in one specific battle, but not the underlying issues and how to fix them

[neat kayak]

SUCK IT BRITAIN

Second time sunking the hood

[opaque zinc]

thats more than 3

[copper sluice]

It feels so good to win the naval battle man

[untold sphinx]

templates?

[heavy vigil]

who cares?

work on combat modifiers

any template can work

[copper sluice]

what do I do when my savefile is broken so that the game always crashes

[untold sphinx]

idk how to make tds

[fair horizon]

what flag is that?

[ruby rover]

Is there an Cold War mod which is playable and you could recommend?

[fair horizon]

use the right gun and select them in the dropdown when you make your tank

[buoyant lodge]

how do u

win naval battles

[fair horizon]

out navy the enemy navy

[molten forge]

any advice to quickly turn puppets into annexed land

[buoyant lodge]

if i were to play italy

[molten forge]

and no i dont got sea access

[buoyant lodge]

what should i produce

[frank estuary]

Haven't picked any focuses to put me closer to a civil war, yet. Picking just this one shouldn't do it, right?

[fair horizon]

light cruisers and carriers

[coral gorge]

26K losses and I already fell depleted

[fair horizon]

probably just convert some of the zara classes into carriers

[molten forge]

should i go fascist or commie czech (germany did oppose hitler)

[coral gorge]

probably fascist

[molten forge]

i just want my ability to justify wars

[coral gorge]

I don't like commie Czech name much

well it doesn't matter that much really

there are only so many countries to declare on

[molten forge]

yugo austria

switz

snipe france with para

already puppeted hungary and 3/4 states of bulgaria (didnt have enough war points for 4th)

[coral gorge]

well the only relevance of fascist fast war justification is that you are still at war with a major, and you need to be able to snipe a whole faction to keep as much manpower as possible

otherwise you are just going to sit on tons of resistance

[molten forge]

oh wait fascist allows me to attack poland

[coral gorge]

even with AUH cores

they both do

[molten forge]

may i ask

if i annex a puppet

[coral gorge]

no

[molten forge]

it doesnt have resistance?

[coral gorge]

it does

you reset it to 0% but it will go up normally

[molten forge]

like i have puppet hungary

once i get it to be annexed it starts with 0 and increases resistance

[coral gorge]

yeah

so tbh ideally with Czech you just annex Hungary and Austria in the first place

then snipe Yugoslavia, get Romania into the war since they guarantee Yugoslavia

then click decision to core AUH immediately

[buoyant lodge]

subs are unimportant?

[coral gorge]

the faster you do that, the more manpower you keep

[buoyant lodge]

i just started an italy playthrough, first time italy

[molten forge]

alr alr, any advice to like make then less independent

[buoyant lodge]

and i also have noi clue how the navy works, but i don't want to get absolutely obliterated by britain

[coral gorge]

not really you can build on them or send them stuffs like guns anti-air etc

but that's kinda it

[coral gorge]

as Germany?

[buoyant lodge]

italia

[coral gorge]

as Italy you can just deathstack in Med and kill British fleet

then convoy raid with surface fleets

so yeah, subs are not needed

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[fair horizon]

subs are only good for starving britian tbh

[buoyant lodge]

so i should scrap sub production entirely?

[fair horizon]

its a valid playstyle but i dont bother

nah you can keep it if you want

[buoyant lodge]

also how do i quickly filter out all subs from my main fleet

instead of manually selecting each one

[molten forge]

maybe the intelligence agency can do something about it?

[fair horizon]

right click the sub stack

[coral gorge]

hmm

[fair horizon]

so i have extra music mods and the moment i loaded up an italy playthough it starts playing funiculi funicula

[cedar lance]

as Germany i mostly build ALL subs classes and variants aswell as SP subs

i just keep building ALL Subs

[fair horizon]

italy's admirals SUCK

[cedar lance]

alr

[fair horizon]

fleet protector and old guard? 😡

why give the best admiral -xp

[cedar lance]

i do also build ALL Special project Subs

[fair horizon]

oh well angelo iachino time

i personally only bother with 1940 subs

all the other ones suck too bad in one way or another

[pseudo raven]

i forgot where i can check MIO's

[pseudo raven]

thanks

always used notification icon

[cedar lance]

how many subs should i build and produce as Germany?

[fair horizon]

i hate this template so much

[pseudo raven]

why u need subs if u can do normal fleet

[fair horizon]

as many as you want, hope you plan on using paratroopers to get into britian

[cedar lance]

alr

[cedar lance]

becus IRL Germany did that

[pseudo raven]

SO U GOING HISTORICAL

sory for caps

accident after alttab

so u going hist

[pseudo raven]

actually if get convoy raid effiecent enough

he can drain all british oil

[cedar lance]

yes

[pseudo raven]

and invade with starting ships

naval invade

[cedar lance]

i do also always build ALL other ships crafts and vessels

like CVs

[atomic ingot]

guys, no one its going to care, but I finally bought the game, it was boring playing the game cracked so I finally decided to buy it

[coral gorge]

[fair horizon]

you can still get supremacy without oil

[coral gorge]

🔥

[pseudo raven]

it's easier to reduce it

without oil patrols give less supremacy

[steel silo]

im playing on non historical, fighting wars on 3 froonts and its going good but at an exact date every time my game crashes. Why? (no mods ,all dlc)

[pseudo raven]

do u have error log or just crash

[buoyant lodge]

what focuses are good as italy

first time playing not quite sure which waY TO GO

[fair horizon]

yo the reggia marina is kinda stacked by default

[steel silo]

crash report but where do i find the log?

[coral gorge]

go in blind

[buoyant lodge]

where do i

[coral gorge]

trial and error

[buoyant lodge]

right click the subs