#hoi4-general
lilac glen
limber jackal
i dont know the name, thats why im searchig for it
its
this soviet song
that plays in hoi4
oak mantle
Which one
oak mantle
Does it not like show u in the music player
inland falcon
The one during zhukovs speech? I don't think that's an actual song
lilac glen
Are you supposed to have 5 production lines per warship type?
limber jackal
Does it not like show u in the music player
is that a real thing
oak mantle
is that a real thing
Look at the 3 buttons under the date and look to the left, you see a music symblom thingy
Click it
oak mantle
YEah well go to the music station and go through every song
And see if you can recognise it
limber jackal
oh wait
oak mantle
Hoi music is top tier tho i agree
lilac glen
Why is radar even a special project, bruh
oak mantle
Better than some spotify artists
inland falcon
There's like 6 soviet songs, mother russia, the red army, Russian victory (best imo), the might of the soviet union, comintern theme and tgpw
Radar is really useful and I wish I figured that out way sooner
oak mantle
Ive never tried radar
Is radar going to be the moment of realisation i had when i first tried cas
inland falcon
It helped a lot with securing the channel, I think anyway
oak mantle
Does it just help your planes and stuff
inland falcon
Is radar going to be the moment of realisation i had when i first tried cas
Nah Cas is still definitely better
inland falcon
Yeah it helps with air battles, naval spotting and even seeing troops over the channel
oak mantle
Ah okay
limber jackal
wow
inland falcon
Cas is lwk the most useful thing in the game imo
oak mantle
it wasnt even in the sound track apparently
Maybe youre just schizo
limber jackal
i swear ive heard it in hoi4 before
oak mantle
It might not be a soviet song?
limber jackal
it definitely is
oak mantle
It could be in the hoi4 classic station
lilac glen
It helped a lot with securing the channel, I think anyway
What does it do?
Like
I know what it does
But how much it actually do?
inland falcon
"Radar also provides the state with better detection of enemy air forces, giving your planes a better chance to engage them"
fair horizon
why am i not getting naval dominance here?
i have a patrol fleet with 500 dominance so thats not the issue
eternal palm
But how much it actually do?
Quite a lot
it is essential to winning the airwar if you are massively outnumbered
Air detection is important because it lets you see more enemy planes making you able to shoot down more enemy planes
So in any given instance with high detection, you shoot down more planes than without it
craggy belfry
Yo people I need help
lilac glen
Quite a lot
Nice
craggy belfry
Im playing a multiplayer with my friend I’m Mexico hes the soviet union
Does anyone know which focus of the SU leads to trotsky being exiled?
lilac glen
Is it possible to invade the UK without air superiority?
inland falcon
Does anyone know which focus of the SU leads to trotsky being exiled?
He starts exiled
inland falcon
Is it possible to invade the UK without air superiority?
Yeah but it's much worse
inland falcon
What about the Russians?
craggy belfry
He starts exiled
So if he doesnt do any focus only industry ill get trotsky right
lilac glen
What about the Russians?
We don't hurt the comrades
Actually, let me see if I can even declare war lol
inland falcon
So if he doesnt do any focus only industry ill get trotsky right
You really have to go out of your way to kill Trotsky. As long as he doesn't do the operation for it you'll be fine
eternal palm
Does anyone know which focus of the SU leads to trotsky being exiled?
That's not through a focus. So he starts the game in Norway and then gets exiled to Mexico via Event from Norway. Then when he arrives Mexico gets the choice to either take him in or extradite him
For his sanity you should extradite him
inland falcon
The Russians have to do "behead the snake" before they can do the assassination anyway
inland falcon
We don't hurt the comrades
They will eventually attack you
eternal palm
So if he doesnt do any focus only industry ill get trotsky right
Doesn't matter. As long as the Soviets don't take him as leader he should arrive in Mexico if AI is on historical
If Norway has a civil war though he just kinda disappears
lilac glen
They will eventually attack you
Nvm, it's 40
For some reason, I have 30 mils to an outdated fighter as well
I have 70 Mils now
craggy belfry
For some reason I got the event but I dont see trotsky as a political advisor, anyone knows why?
eternal palm
For some reason I got the event but I dont see trotsky as a political advisor, a...
What option did you click
And did Stalin already kill him
craggy belfry
What option did you click
The one to make him enter the government
eternal palm
The one to make him enter the government
Mhm and he doesn't appear at all in the advisor screen
craggy belfry
No, Even weirder is that the focus says that Trotsky will lead the communist party when I do the revolution
eternal palm
No, Even weirder is that the focus says that Trotsky will lead the communist par...
... Yea so u clicked the option to make him leader lol?
Not advisor
craggy belfry
... Yea so u clicked the option to make him leader lol?
Theres no option to make him leader though?
eternal palm
Theres no option to make him leader though?
What does the event say exactly?
fair horizon
is there a way to find if you're counted as a major?
craggy belfry
Like I can extraditate him, give him refuge or make him enter the government
eternal palm
Does it make him an advisor or does it make him leader of the communist Party
craggy belfry
Does it make him an advisor or does it make him leader of the communist Party
Only advisor normally
Hes not the leader of the communist party right now
eternal palm
Hes not the leader of the communist party right now
But he will become prob
Anyway doesn't really matter cuz u should extradite him
craggy belfry
Yeah when I do the focus it says
oak mantle
Is 109 mils on germany pre ww2 good
eternal palm
Is 109 mils on germany pre ww2 good
That's fine
fair horizon
prolly
eternal palm
How many refs you got
oak mantle
Only a couple rn
Ive researched some refinery tech
Ive got like 3 rn i think
Ill build more soon when im closer to having planes researched
eternal palm
Ill build more soon when im closer to having planes researched
What year is it
oak mantle
Jul 39
eternal palm
And get engine 3 from jagdwaffe focus
oak mantle
So i should prolly start making refineries
Ive been doing day 1 mils cause i wanted to test that out
On germany
eternal palm
Ive been doing day 1 mils cause i wanted to test that out
That's what you're supposed to do lol
U don't build civs on ger
oak mantle
I done play germany really ever anymore
Ive got 90% collab on france and 75 on poland
eternal palm
Ive got 90% collab on france and 75 on poland
Don't need that many lol
1 on Poland and 2 on france is enough
Make one on Belgium aswell
oak mantle
Bit late
eternal palm
For next time
oak mantle
Ok
fair horizon
why the heck cant 20 of these find a single sub?
eternal palm
why the heck cant 20 of these find a single sub?
Because they barely have detection
lilac glen
Why can't I build radars in France?
eternal palm
Do u have radar, green air and so on?
fair horizon
22.5 detection is bad?
eternal palm
Why can't I build radars in France?
Because France doesn't have the tech
eternal palm
22.5 detection is bad?
Either it's not enough or there aren't any subs in the sea zone
Or they have cracked visibility
Subs aren't exactly balanced in vanilla
Also killing with dds is kinda slow
fair horizon
i mean there definitely is subs but i cant seem to find them
eternal palm
Navs are better at this
eternal palm
i mean there definitely is subs but i cant seem to find them
So u get them into battles but u can't kill them
Yea need more damage then
remote quarry
i mean there definitely is subs but i cant seem to find them
because subs are invincible when they are undetected
because the game is coded such that the detection chance when subs are in-combat is very very low
remote quarry
why the heck cant 20 of these find a single sub?
you want to put this ship on patrol
so that when it engages an enemy submarine, it is an offensive combat
then the submarines are forced to be revealed for 20 hours
which allow you to kill all of them
also remove the capitals
the sub detection is taken as the average of the fleet
fair horizon
i repositioned some destroyers from another fleet that did work
eternal palm
And the subs are on the attack
oak mantle
Is 15 days to kill poland good
eternal palm
Look you are killing them
eternal palm
Is 15 days to kill poland good
I just noticed your pfp 💀
fair horizon
they were on the attack both times but i think like topaz said it was averaging the rest of the fleet
eternal palm
You dont like it?
I will leave my thoughts at the above 💀
nimble prism
g
fair horizon
hehe
oak mantle
I will leave my thoughts at the above 💀
Should i establish vichy france even if i have collabs on france
eternal palm
Should i establish vichy france even if i have collabs on france
Absolutley not
oak mantle
Ok
eternal palm
Even without, creating Vichy is dumb
Just cap France, don't release the collab and go harsh quota
oak mantle
Seize all of the benelux gold reserves right
eternal palm
Seize all of the benelux gold reserves right
Yea
Maybe take Norway too to get Swedish Resources to get autarky faster
eternal palm
Wont i lose most of my compliance if i go to harsh quotas
Well yea but you will have it long enough
It takes like 2 years to fully tick down
oak mantle
Ok
eternal palm
And even then, harsh quota is just that good
oak mantle
do i do it with poland
eternal palm
do i do it with poland
Only on a few states
Check states with a lot of factories
And then apply it to those states
oak mantle
So plaxes like warsaw and krakow
eternal palm
So plaxes like warsaw and krakow
Katowice ye
oak mantle
Do i do the same with the benelux
eternal palm
Do i do the same with the benelux
Yea
Any place with a lot of factories
Just harsh quota
oak mantle
Is it good to just do it for the entirety of belgium cause belgiums got a lot of factories
In basically every state
eternal palm
Is it good to just do it for the entirety of belgium cause belgiums got a lot of...
I guess so
Ardennes are empty but oh well
oak mantle
Yeaht ahts the only place
fair horizon
the defense of australia is going good
raven owl
oak mantle
WHO is this guy and where is that one king dude
fair horizon
did they make convoys slower or something?
oak mantle
sudden thistle
Don’t we love the shitty AI
oak mantle
Hell yeah
eternal palm
so if you leave an area with a patrol fleet it instantly drops your dominance
Because that's how it works
U need both now
eternal palm
Strike force by itself doesnt give supremacy
eternal palm
Why are you surprised then?
fair horizon
the moment it left to go north it instantly dropped my dominance to zero
eternal palm
the moment it left to go north it instantly dropped my dominance to zero
..... So
vital cove
the moment it left to go north it instantly dropped my dominance to zero
yes that's how it works?
you don't have ships in the sea
why would you have dominance
eternal palm
Kek
eternal palm
DO YOU SEE THE PICTURE I POSTED?
Yes we can read
fair horizon
another patrol moved in
eternal palm
And I frankly don't get why you are surprised
fair horizon
in the second that it moved i lost ALL dominance
eternal palm
another patrol moved in
Then micro your patrol fleets
Make seperate task forces
Fleets
So they don't leave the sea zone
fringe shell
if i would go to war with soviets which provinces should i hold
lilac glen
Because France doesn't have the tech
Can I share it?
eternal palm
Can I share it?
Nope
That's why u don't release France as a collab
Just don't create Vichy and keep the compliance
Go harsh quota and boom
You spawn in more factories from thin air
lilac glen
I thought puppets were good :<
vital cove
I thought puppets were good :<
they're not
vital cove
its almost always better to just annex
vital cove
and if you have collabs its always better
lilac glen
they're not
I have been lied to
fair horizon
this is just dumb
sudden thistle
that later
This is my best guess
vital trellis
Guys, i need help with logistics
fringe shell
they will attack my lvl 5 forts?
vital cove
if i would go to war with soviets which provinces should i hold
did you get yourself a puppet france or something before going to war with the soviets
fringe shell
did you get yourself a puppet france or something before going to war with the s...
bro im tannu tuva
vital trellis
Does building more railways solve problems like this?
fringe shell
fym puppet
vital trellis
Bottlenecks
vital cove
fym puppet
you can paradrop france and get a free puppet as any nation
sudden thistle
Does building more railways solve problems like this?
Not rlly
sudden thistle
you can paradrop france and get a free puppet as any nation
He is Tannu Tuva
vital cove
He is Tannu Tuva
yes and?
you have access to the Soviet union
you can get to the sea
eternal palm
Does building more railways solve problems like this?
No that's not how that works
vital cove
justify on Ethiopia and get military access from italy
then paradrop france from there
eternal palm
It'll only pick the rail with the highest lvl
U need only 1 connection
Make that lvl5
sudden thistle
Bro does not have a vision 🥀
fringe shell
then paradrop france from there
i can paradrop from neutral nations?
vital cove
i can paradrop from neutral nations?
yes if you have mutual war with them
eternal palm
i can paradrop from neutral nations?
Don't think you can
vital cove
war with exlied countries count
eternal palm
yes if you have mutual war with them
Then they are not neutral??
vital cove
Then they are not neutral??
no i mean
if you and italy are at war with Ethiopia
but italy is not at war with france
you can paradrop france
oak mantle
Yo how many transport planes do i need to paradrop
eternal palm
no i mean
if you and italy are at war with Ethiopia
Yea that means Italy is not neutral since u are allied in that war
vital cove
they're neutral in the france war
eternal palm
Neutral in this context means a country that is not at war and not in a faction with you
Neutral towards the country you're attacking oh nvm
lilac glen
I think I will take a break from HOI4
eternal palm
Yes right
lilac glen
War is annoying and exhausting 😔
oak mantle
Im almost at full autarky
eternal palm
War is annoying and exhausting 😔
That's what the game is about 
vital trellis
No that's not how that works
How does it work then?
lilac glen
Im almost at full autarky
One of the reasons I am MAD
eternal palm
How does it work then?
I explained right below that
eternal palm
It'll only pick the rail with the highest lvl
.
lilac glen
All I need is 150 oil
eternal palm
All I need is 150 oil
Trade with the Soviets
lilac glen
But my neighbors don't have oil lol
oak mantle
Since im close to autarky im gonna try paradrop the UK before america joins
lilac glen
But my neighbors don't have oil lol
Already did lol
lilac glen
That's what the game is about <:KEKW:751015759257272391>
I wish I could just meatgrind my way to victory
oak mantle
Are 10 of these good enough to paradrop the uk
vital cove
Are 10 of these good enough to paradrop the uk
more than enough
eternal palm
Are 10 of these good enough to paradrop the uk
If you could drop them yes
But you can't lmao
fair horizon
since when does the ai take ships?
oak mantle
But you can't lmao
How not
eternal palm
Take out the flame tank
oak mantle
Oh
vital cove
remove them
oak mantle
True
oak mantle
I mean
You could just like
Drop it ou tht eback of a plane at 10 feet
And pray for the best
lilac glen
Like what are u doing rn
Taking heavy losses from meatgrinding through Norway and Sweden
eternal palm
Drop it ou tht eback of a plane at 10 feet
Yea that's not how that works
vital cove
you can paradrop light tanks recon
eternal palm
It 100% is
Uh no
oak mantle
You can achieve anything
eternal palm
Medium tanks are too heavy
oak mantle
No i have a better idea
eternal palm
They did drop light tanks though
lilac glen
Sweden, not Finland
oak mantle
Sit it at the back side of the plane and open the back door and shoot flames out of it at like 10 feet
oak mantle
Medium tanks are too heavy
Get better engines
lilac glen
Is it because it's cold? That's why?
oak mantle
Problem solved
lilac glen
Can I give my guys blankets?
eternal palm
Maybe don't fight when you're only getting red battles
eternal palm
Can I give my guys blankets?
Bro...
oak mantle
Should i seize french gold reserves
lilac glen
Maybe don't fight when you're only getting red battles
In my defense, battleplanning is being stupid
eternal palm
Should i seize french gold reserves
Yes
eternal palm
In my defense, battleplanning is being stupid
My brother in christ, you Are clicking the plan!
vital cove
Medium tanks are too heavy
just do this :true:
oak mantle
Oh i thought it removes 10 compliance only 5
oak mantle
just do this :true:
Whoever invented this needs promoted asap
oak mantle
Ofc its soviet
vital cove
That's a light tank?
make the wings bigger
lilac glen
My brother in christ, you Are clicking the plan!
The battleplan will send a single div to attack, while it can win instantly by just attacking from three sides
vital cove
(not how that works)
oak mantle
wIngs bigger anmd slap another 2 engines onto those wings
eternal palm
The battleplan will send a single div to attack, while it can win instantly by j...
Yea then maybe do that??????
fringe shell
i believe im cooked
eternal palm
Like bro
vital cove
its funny
eternal palm
You are playing the game!
fringe shell
i believe im cooked
there is china and usa in allies
eternal palm
Yea?
oak mantle
Should i put todt in charge and get rid of hitler
eternal palm
Should i put todt in charge and get rid of hitler
You wanna keep Hitler...
fair horizon
chat this isnt the phillipines
eternal palm
Noooo Todt final focus
oak mantle
But todt is so much tougher
lilac glen
It's almost like the game detects you are not looking at the rest of the map when it does D day
eternal palm
chat this isnt the phillipines
It's Japan
lilac glen
It's funny
eternal palm
But todt is so much tougher
How?
lilac glen
They never attempt D Day when I am looking
oak mantle
He likes factories
eternal palm
He likes factories
Jfc
lilac glen
When I micromanage a war, suddenly Free France captured most of Spain already
oak mantle
That's busted no
Who cares about stats its about the mentality
eternal palm
Yea yall can miss me with the larp
eternal palm
Who cares about stats its about the mentality
Yea whatever you say man
oak mantle
Im sensing that you dont agree with me
Would i be right in saying thatr
Should i wait for the partatroopers to fully train or do i just drop them rn
Theyre fully equipped its just taking ages to train
vital trellis
I explained right below that
Where
oak mantle
Im capping the uk before barb
gentle briar
yall think i can get eastern poland (they declined)
lilac glen
yall think i can get eastern poland (they declined)
Good luck
eternal palm
Where
Okay whatever, no it always only needs one connection and it will only pick the one with a higher level
eternal palm
Okay whatever, no it always only needs one connection and it will only pick the ...
Having multiple connections of the same level does nothing
fringe shell
i mean im still alive
vital trellis
Okay whatever, no it always only needs one connection and it will only pick the ...
I see
Does higher level = less bottleneck?
bold yew
i mean im still alive
Defeat the soviet union
oak mantle
im genuienly invading italy for this
fair horizon
this bug is also angering me, i have a strike force, i have a battlecruiser on patrol and my dominance is staying at zero
fair horizon
apparently having ships in the area means nothing btw
umbral agate
if i promote a general to a field martial, but still use that general as a general do i get any debuffs?
lilac glen
Nice uk capitulation
How did you capitulate the UK? I wanna know
sudden thistle
if i promote a general to a field martial, but still use that general as a gener...
Look for a red trait
Like if ur looking through red glasses
At the trait part of the general screen
fervent minnow
Who cares about stats its about the mentality
yeah exactly
woven gate
i mean im still alive
tannu what?
woven gate
im genuienly invading italy for this
eternal palm
if i promote a general to a field martial, but still use that general as a gener...
Nope. You just can't use any fm traits while they are used as a general
fair horizon
I AM THE SEA
vocal stump
How?
umbral agate
Nope. You just can't use any fm traits while they are used as a general
k i was just asking cuz i promoted a general for the extra trait
and i didt know if he would have half stats cuz he is a field martial
vague lion
I need Beta Testers for a new mod i'm making. Dm me so i can add you on steam (it's a closed alpha)
coral gorge
lmao I saw SOV AI with like 40 tank divs, so I thought I would just do TD for once
still have no ideas where their tanks are
trail spear
ITALY | GIAMPIERX3 whats the mod
coral gorge
I need Beta Testers for a new mod i'm making. Dm me so i can add you on steam (i...
what is the mod about
vague lion
what is the mod about <:nicebro:1054028891968253963>
NON HIST
WW2 MP/SP mod
Basically A Better Vanilla
west owl
Console announcement?
fair horizon
bit ridiculous
coral gorge
45% terrain bonus
urban tile is even worse to defend than plains tile in mid-late game
fervent minnow
I need Beta Testers for a new mod i'm making. Dm me so i can add you on steam (i...
whats the mod about
inland falcon
piss
worst war goal i've ever used
this isn't an invasion, it's merely putting down a rebellion in a colony that totally belongs to me
frank parcel
How do i allocate more resources to HOI4? Like i am in 1946 and the game stutters to an unplayable level. It only uses max 67% of my ram and 30% of CPU
craggy belfry
Hey people, what leads Trotsky to come back to Moscow ? Is it a focus or something?
Like why is he going to moscow instead of Mexico
patent thistle
thanks germany i need this-
coral gorge
Nov 36 he gets into trouble with the fascist
Norway gets to decide what to do with Trotsky after that
craggy belfry
Damn
coral gorge
He goes to Mexico later in all event options except the one where Norway just sends him back to Moscow
craggy belfry
Is it common that they send him back to Moscow?
coral gorge
Nah
craggy belfry
Two saves and they do that
finite nacelle
Poor Poland got partitioned again
craggy belfry
Alright thanks
coral gorge
I think only stalinist commie Norway always sends Trotsky to Moscow
sudden thistle
Md eco makes no sense bro
oak mantle
facts cant u literally go into infinite debt and have no reprocussions whatsoever
sudden thistle
Like I was building office parks for 3 years straight
And I still was losing money
oak mantle
Md sounds fun until you play it
Hell yeah i wanna play modern day usa but then you realize its total slop
sudden thistle
The political power and how much u need sucks
amber matrix
finland is so nice that their authoritarian regimes have elections
oak mantle
I turned the hoi4 music back on after muting it so i can listen to spotify and my life improved drastically
icy crescent
finland is so nice that their authoritarian regimes have elections
Yes.
split bane
finland is so nice that their authoritarian regimes have elections
Yk, I think the only reason why Finland is Nonaligned instead of Democratic is so the British AI doesn't guarantee them
woven gate
Yk, I think the only reason why Finland is Nonaligned instead of Democratic is s...
it can't be THAT hard for paradox to code finland not to be guaranteed
bronze mango
Md is just total slop
Yes
split bane
it can't be THAT hard for paradox to code finland not to be guaranteed
I think it's an older issue, but I am surprised by the fact that PDX never changed Finland back to democratic in AAT, they changed Japan to nonaligned in NCNS
bronze mango
Yk, I think the only reason why Finland is Nonaligned instead of Democratic is s...
And also because they cooperate with the nazis probably
woven gate
paradox is autistic i wouldn't be surprised
bronze mango
For a "lore reason"
patent thistle
YES PLEASE- I AM DROWNING IN DEPT-
JUST CUT IT DOWN BY 50% HELL YEAH
thanks china too ig?
fervent minnow
YES PLEASE- I AM DROWNING IN DEPT-
what mod is this
patent thistle
millenium dawn
wind meteor
fervent minnow
millenium dawn
oof millenium dawn
isnt that mod like
dead
i thought that was novus vexillum thats why i asked
frozen lion
Bruh what? This is a communist faction. It's name is kinda deceiving but still
amber matrix
sonic prism
Yk, I think the only reason why Finland is Nonaligned instead of Democratic is s...
In my current game with Finland I took out soviet union with Germany, and both Britain and Usa are guaranteeing me (I chose lone wolf focus)
hushed loom
chat is this a bug it shows i got naval invasions but i dont have any
wind meteor
fervent minnow
what tf
wind meteor
They would never give away stuff for free
XD
frozen lion
Literally unplayable
dusky burrow
fuh i forgot about this
How is Germany?
dusky burrow
Ah I see
frozen lion
I'm in october 1939 and I can research the final industry tech in 150 days
all thanks to germany ''Sharing'' its tech with me
This is the sole reason why I use intelligence agencies
fringe shell
so now there is fuhing batle royale
knotty vortex
as an nation like afghanistan should i build civs early on?
fair horizon
I'm in october 1939 and I can research the final industry tech in 150 days
I didnt know this was possible
fair horizon
as an nation like afghanistan should i build civs early on?
Might as well, you dont have any industry anyways
vague sedge
next jolt
YES PLEASE- I AM DROWNING IN DEPT-
blazing nova
we NEED NEEED A university course that teaches people how to play major countries in hoi4 mp
sudden thistle
we NEED NEEED A university course that teaches people how to play major countrie...
what major
i can prob find u a guide
rq
blazing nova
tannu tuva
soft tendon
how the mods.paradoxplaza feels like:
dawn marlin
whos got any good mp discord servers?
neat kayak
let's try to survive with historical latvia
fair horizon
we NEED NEEED A university course that teaches people how to play major countrie...
Play britian and naval invade like crazy while having your faction do all the work 👍
blazing nova
Play britian and naval invade like crazy while having your faction do all the wo...
isnt that banned in most rulesets
neat kayak
And lose over 5 mil men and then delete your army to 30 units
fair horizon
Idk multiplayer is for losers
fair horizon
Ah yeah you cant do that specific thing because i cant counter it so its against the rules
Omg your infantry got a single armor from a truck or something you broke the rules
You cant use so and so ships because id have to counter your navy and i didnt wanna build dockyards
Lame stuff like that
neat kayak
Where are the decisions to fight the fascists?
fair horizon
Probably not going into a civil war if i had to guess
Ive only ever played lithuania of the baltics
woven dragon
neat kayak
i am trying to see if it's possible to survive as latvia
Using these focuses
and the desperate defense subdoctrine
inland falcon
Tfdym they made Italy even weaker at game start 😭
terse skiff
don't send volunteers to ethiopia then
inland falcon
I'm talking about the coal
inland falcon
It's pretty bleak
neat kayak
Compared to someone
mhmmm
Italy is my fav major
and the more new content is added to the game the weaker italy gets
fair horizon
I'm talking about the coal
coal is a non-issue
terse skiff
i mean italy now does conquer cairo more often
inland falcon
Anyway now that Ethiopia is dealt with its time to take mussolini round the back of the barn
terse skiff
that gives italy a chance to occupy all of africa
last cave
i once used 50+ atomic bombs on brasil bcs i became extremly mad that they became an major
fair horizon
Compared to someone
the funniest part about america is that iowa has no resources
which is entirely accurate
fair horizon
did you make a billion forts?
neat kayak
Yes
also aa tanks
it's latvia
with no way of expansion
and barely any bonuses for mp
Yes these suck
but it's the first push ( which is the hardest ofc)
Oh yeah they are also starving :))))))
rich nacelle
I remember hearing about a pure AA division being used in combat to just delete enemy CAS. Am I schizomaxxing or is that an actual meta?
normal yoke
it's june 43, managed to cap the allies before the US joined, then did operation Alaric, managed to have some pretty realistic borders, also did operation felix on spain and then invaded portugal to get the sweet tungsten. Now i'm completing the autarky.
the US and japan are fighting on their own
closer look at europe
neat kayak
And the soviet offensive is gone 🙂
lethal ether
closer look at europe
using any mods?
lethal ether
nice
normal yoke
time to invade the ussr
coral gorge
lmao PRC can get +60% resistance target on core territories
normal yoke
bruh all those puppet troops that auto spawn
supple summit
bruh all those puppet troops that auto spawn
just delete them
when you do it gets returned to them
normal yoke
just delete them
i just put them in another theater and keep them in one big arm
just in case
supple summit
fair
toxic cypress
soviet naval invasion in pomerania or some shit
i have not seen such a interesting character in ages
normal yoke
i have not seen such a interesting character in ages
wdym
normal yoke
soviet naval invasions are surprisingly common
normal yoke
pain
wow the frontlines haven't moved much, surely both sides have suffered few losses
agile perch
woah how u get that flag
normal yoke
what flag
neat kayak
YESS F YEAH
neat kayak
Ignore the shape i wasn't paying attention and forced a unit out
neat kayak
how are u alive lmao
space marines :)))
agile perch
space marines :)))
damnn
toxic cypress
It is possible to survive as latvia
yes
normal yoke
and believe me i'm not one of those that just want an excuse to wave it, it's just annoying how mentionning real things that happened is considered as bad even tho we see more and more people acting like if it never happened
toxic cypress
its possible for every nation
if ur small go commie build forts afk
if ur big go facist spam units build forts afk
if your a major what r u doing
neat kayak
I am aiming to get the baltic formable , capp the soviets and call it a day
or night cuz it's 12:27
am
bold yew
Damm bro, you deserve a trophy for that
toxic cypress
but some people do things much more spectacular than this
i conquered china as greece
neat kayak
i conquered china as greece
LET HIM COOK 🔥
neat kayak
Before steroids britain
toxic cypress
Before steroids britain
no
uk always strong
the whole troop placement shit did nothing
felt like it did nothing
neat kayak
uk always strong
I love killing Britain
knotty vortex
Cannot wait to play hoi4 on this beast
neat kayak
gg 🙂
bold yew
Only 19% ?
That game is broken
neat kayak
tbh idrc
End of the campaign
Focuses and the template i used
i removed arty at some point but added it back
shouldn't used arty from the beggining but it is what it is
hard grove
dusk nova
Why is file for focus tree of Communist China called china_communist_sea? What does sea stand for?
fair horizon
lmao
neat kayak
This was painful
fair horizon
ah yes the USS Prinz Eugen
neat kayak
But very fun nonetheless
I should probably build compliance
In moscow and leningrad
Get 120 divs
Kick Britain of europe
And put an end
But that will be very very late game
And I need an airforce
The soviet war ended in 1942
crisp wyvern
guys
am i missing a lot by still playing in version 1.16.8?
its the version i find the most stable for the mods im using lmao
eternal aspen
man hoi4 feels so boring ngl
need new ways to make it fun, since all mods are under 3 catagories
either story like TNO, the same as vanilla, like rt56, or chaos like any "low quality" mods (stuff like NAD)
some mods like KR/X fall inbetween, like how KR/X both fall under story/similar to vanilla, since it's partially guided by story but you at least can do stuff freely
crisp wyvern
i lowkey just bombard my vanilla hoi4 with improvement mods that make the gun a little more fun, and create my own scenarios in my head
kinda like how swinceball does
crisp wyvern
i lowkey just bombard my vanilla hoi4 with improvement mods that make the gun a ...
non related image but this is how i feel after having to deal with the UK kicking out of the faction everytime
eternal aspen
non related image but this is how i feel after having to deal with the UK kickin...
Tahts the other issue, 90% of the gameplay is the exact same and you run into the same issues as vanilla
Either factions kick and reinvite, or its total war like the 1937 mod
crisp wyvern
Either factions kick and reinvite, or its total war like the 1937 mod
i lowkey enjoy bleeding the enemy dry of its manpower
like that one game where i killed 300,000k costa ricans as el salvador in a central america playthrough
thats like half of the costa rican population in 1940
neat kayak
bro 😭 how
Defended like there is no tomorrow and when Germany came , the USSR collapsed
crisp wyvern
or that time where i killed 1.68M peruvians (gran colombia playthrough)while trying to reclaim pastaza, or was it loreto? idk
neat kayak
This has to be the hardest challenge I ever did in my 1000+ hours of hoi4
Surviving as military dictatorship latvia , with barely any mp industry and no resources
crisp wyvern
Surviving as military dictatorship latvia , with barely any mp industry and no r...
i remember playing as non dlc austria once
fought a bloody war against italy, germany and hungary
i won lmao
thank you allies for not being useless
neat kayak
i remember playing as non dlc austria once
That was garbage
💀💀
Austria with no dlc was hell
I never played it
crisp wyvern
i did
neat kayak
Cuz i was very noob
crisp wyvern
it was fun until germany tried to anschluss me
neat kayak
I am still a noob but with more knowledge now
crisp wyvern
i set up defenses alongside the german border and retreated near the mountain range to deal with italy
neat kayak
1000+ hours is not enough to master the game
crisp wyvern
i have 500 hours on this game and fought and won against the entire balkans
neat kayak
Austria has the most beautiful and overpowered focus tree in the whole game ( minors)
crisp wyvern
neat kayak
In February 2024
I defeated the reichpackt as russia
In kr
Then in march I did a wc with Britain
It went very deep
Cuz I was dumbass and didn't know the faction stuff
thorny igloo
distant hollow
sharp sierra
i hope they adjust naval invasions soon
ornate wigeon
What carrier planes should I put on my carriers?
keen igloo
is sealion even doable on the latest patch? if so how on earth
keen igloo
is sealion even doable on the latest patch? if so how on earth
landed 30 divisions, cas, 2000 fighters, tanks and couldnt even get a chance to break out before i got reinforced memed off the port
sharp sierra
are you a good player
keen igloo
I mean I've been playing since 2018 I'd hope so
Haven't played Germany in a while, don't know the meta
I could get supply and naval supremacy too
sharp sierra
i guess the division spam they got just caught you wrong
keen igloo
That might be it
They had nothing in Africa so must've kept it all in the home isles, though was surprised to see anti tank divisions from the UK
sharp sierra
when all that new uk ai stuff came i started invading in the mountains of scotland so theyd have to push me out of snowy mountain and river adjacent tiles
then just invade behind them again
keen igloo
Oh that's smart
coral gorge
landed 30 divisions, cas, 2000 fighters, tanks and couldnt even get a chance to ...
Force attack when you land
Attack the tile behind your intended target, it will let you bypass being attacked by enemies from that very tile
Burning HP first is fine because if they fail without burning HP, they die anyway
But you keep org
On naval invasions you can’t be counterattacked so force attack increases chance of winning more than burning org first
My principle regarding Sealion is that if I can’t break the British where they are the strongest, then I don’t deserve a victory
Always land south
opal nymph
The channel is also where you can readily give air support
maiden verge
Essentially, destroy everyone
opal nymph
And it is only 1 sea zone to build dominance in
keen igloo
I could always get the landing I'd just run out of org from cycle attacks before I broke out
opal nymph
I could always get the landing I'd just run out of org from cycle attacks before...
CAS solves all problems
keen igloo
I remember the days of just invading hull cause there was no garrisons
opal nymph
I remember the days of just invading hull cause there was no garrisons
Well, the UK garrisons everything now and gets spawn ins
keen igloo
Yeah that’s why you attack the tiles behind
Yeah to attack while defending
keen igloo
Well, the UK garrisons everything now and gets spawn ins
Wait I didn't know about the spawn ins that's interesting
coral gorge
they get trash spawnins
opal nymph
Wait I didn't know about the spawn ins that's interesting
Home Defense path gives like 12 12 widths
coral gorge
Don’t do anything if you are familiar with sealion process
opal nymph
That they have to spend something on
coral gorge
Just inf yeah
opal nymph
Also more buffs to British stoicism
keen igloo
I just didn't know that but that makes sense
coral gorge
But tbh I like invading south because the instant you click off the main bulge
They just die
If you click them off, you instantly win
keen igloo
But tbh I like invading south because the instant you click off the main bulge
Dover still work for that?
opal nymph
The South also has 3-4 ports readily available
opal nymph
Dover, east of London, Portsmouth and the one on the eastern most part if you stretch it
keen igloo
I'll give it another shot and see what happens, I'll build a lot more cas next time just to make the ai miserable
opal nymph
Dover usually holds well
coral gorge
i always invade south
With my strongest, I shall conquer their strongest 
opal nymph
Just make sure not to send 48 divisions when there is only 1 port
That is being convoy raided
And you have red air
coral gorge
Bomb the seas ig
When I played my last game as China I invaded UK with just inf
Couldn’t even afford CAS cuz I forgot
sharp sierra
i invaded uk as sweden norway and denmark formables with just inf in like 1940
keen igloo
Funnily enough I never got convoy raided and had naval supremacy with the starting ships
sharp sierra
probably not possible anymore with the new naval stuff
keen igloo
That was on this patch
sharp sierra
for the blip of supremacy
opal nymph
Oh it's easy
coral gorge
Yeah it is harder to get convoy raided by AI now
opal nymph
You put the entire surface fleet on patrol and you win
keen igloo
The ai is incompetent with navy, absolutely dumpstered the us and UK navies as Japan yesterday it wasn't even a challenge
opal nymph
Who is there to fight back? 8 destroyers and a cruiser?
sharp sierra
is it really that bad i only just started playing the game again yesterday
keen igloo
There's a lot of problems with the new navy changes yeah
opal nymph
New navy is fun, but a shame the ai cant use it
sharp sierra
i hate the naval invasions
keen igloo
It's great for multiplayer
sharp sierra
45 days for any invasion at all
keen igloo
You can get decently large ones off at least
But might be a return to paratroopers if u need speed
sharp sierra
its somehow more tedious than selecting 2 at one time
opal nymph
72 division landings with 1940 tech and marine doctrine
opal nymph
its somehow more tedious than selecting 2 at one time
Not more tedious, just more waiting
keen igloo
You can get decently large ones off at least
But might be a return to paratroope...
I also could try an air lion I suppose
sharp sierra
well im playing japan and i hate how i cant just send 2 divisions everywhere on all these islands
opal nymph
I like being able to select 6 divisions, do an order, and wait
opal nymph
well im playing japan and i hate how i cant just send 2 divisions everywhere on ...
You can, just takes up the cap
keen igloo
Which is 6 invasions with 1940 tech
opal nymph
I think you can do 4 landings with 1940 tech and an additional 2 with marine doctrine?
And 12 divs per order with the above criteria
10 or 8 otherwise
I forgot
opal nymph
Eh, it would be nice
But you know the greatest thing
You can naval invade with 0 tech
Im pretty sure
keen igloo
It's 4
opal nymph
Great War Redux levels of naval invading lol
keen igloo
Great War Redux levels of naval invading lol
That's a whole other conversation there lol
Hoi4 modding is often its own shitshow
opal nymph
That's a whole other conversation there lol
Hoi4 modding is often its own shitsh...
Yeah, I started playing Germany and went "bruh"
Then I stopped playing it
I want WW1, not Vic 3
opal nymph
Talking about Vic 3, if I could mod, id try to somehow figure out how to do an American Civil War mod despite the combat being more set up for Vic/EU than hoi4
sharp sierra
i havent played any mods at all actually
opal nymph
i havent played any mods at all actually
The purest vanilla gamer
sharp sierra
cause im like wanting to experience all of the vanilla game first
opal nymph
Fair
sharp sierra
i need the vijoplays everything is translated 100 times mod
opal nymph
Peak hoi4 mod, never got updated
keen igloo
I've not done enough of the vanilla game with 3k hours
Been playing a lot of mp lately
icy bone
Ah yes, the United States joined the United Kingdom
opal nymph
Ah yes, the United States joined the United Kingdom
Weird it never says Allies
icy bone
out of all countries it was syria lol
keen igloo
I've not done enough of the vanilla game with 3k hours
Been playing a lot of mp ...
Though there's something really great about making your own mod and seeing it get thousands of players
remote quarry
I remember the days of just invading hull cause there was no garrisons
unfortunate that the ai is actually trying to play the game
now
keen igloo
It is sad that the AI is guarding it's ports
I appreciate the challenge I'm kidding of course
opal nymph
I liked it when they made the GCW harder and Sealion harder
I like it when they made the game slightly harder
I dont like sheep's mod
It was fun playtesting, but it is a slog
sharp sierra
sheeps mod is like being gay because im dealign with an equal
opal nymph
I hate playing optimally
sharp sierra
vanilla is like liking girls cause i can mostly handle it at all times
keen igloo
I want to lose because of my own skill issue not cause the ai decided to randomly dec on me ya know?
opal nymph
I want to lose because of my own skill issue not cause the ai decided to randoml...
So, sheep's mod
Sheeps Mod makes the AI play optimally to the best of its ability and any buffs they get, you get
keen igloo
I also don't appreciate that level of grinding and needing to optimize
I'll try sheep's mod one of these days but I'm not good enough for regular mp games I'd be destroyed
opal nymph
You know what
Screw playing optimally
Im playing semi optimally if I do sheep's mod
Ive watched a guy who never plays vanilla try it and he won... with a lot of struggles
keen igloo
Who?
opal nymph
He can in fact micro the side of a barn
keen igloo
Despite the lies of the snake of denmark
opal nymph
ignore the time the ai encircled him after pinning him
And the time he got encircled in Ethiopia that one mp game
I watched that live and chuckled
keen igloo
I was watching today's game, I feel a little bad for the Spain played
coral gorge
I'll try sheep's mod one of these days but I'm not good enough for regular mp ga...
You will be fine
At least rn
Cuz I haven’t fully updated it to 1.17 standards
AI performance drops every version
PDX likes breaking the AI
Last time they improved was like in 1.5.4
8 years ago
coral gorge
PDX likes introducing mechanics that give more advantages to players
keen igloo
I've never once seen the ai paradrop, or build nukes, or send an attache
sharp sierra
i think they use nukes
maiden verge
They use nukes
coral gorge
Yeah they do
I once got nuked by the US as Hungary
It angered me so much
Never again were they ever able to nuke me
Now I have air on guard every game
Even in 1942
They shall not bomb me
keen igloo
I recently did the Philippines nuke achievement, played until 1956 and was the only country I saw use nukes despite fighting every major
maiden verge
AI when it sees a country fighting against the entire world of allies with its economy collapsing, stability and war support at 0% but decides to nuke a rural town anyway
maiden verge
Congrats
crisp wyvern
sharp sierra
press n on your keyboard
inland falcon
losing out on dalmatia and getting switzerland in return is sure to please all parties involved :clueless:
restive sable
Does the AI even use collab governments?
ive seen it happen
crisp wyvern
losing out on dalmatia and getting switzerland in return is sure to please all p...
I got Mexico as a colony and Venezuela as an ally in the American continent lmao, I also got the Dutch east indies and the Congo as colonies too
The French are my puppet as well
vivid juniper
I low-key want a Allied Expansion.
Picture this
USA , UK and France get updated focus trees
All of them feel pretty dated and got incremental improvements with Le resistance man the guns but they could use a Germany or Japan treatment
inland falcon
holy shit mussolini must be seething
crisp wyvern
holy shit mussolini must be seething
he couldn't get past El Alamein and couldn't invade Greece and Switzerland successfully and competently
I just gave him more colonies and Switzerland out of pure pity
sharp sierra
even just 2 dumb ass little light cruisers convoy raiding nukes the ai why havent they been sunk yet
woven gate
bro i was so tired that i forgot logistics in china a sjapan
crisp wyvern
bro i was so tired that i forgot logistics in china a sjapan
Minor strategic error, will fix it later (whole front collapses)
maiden verge
I got Mexico as a colony and Venezuela as an ally in the American continent lmao...
alsace lorraine friend
crisp wyvern
alsace lorraine friend
Why have alsaice Lorraine when you have a shit ton of colonies and allies
inland falcon
he couldn't get past El Alamein and couldn't invade Greece and Switzerland succe...
in all fairness, those are really crappy places to fight
crisp wyvern
in all fairness, those are really crappy places to fight
It was easier for me to batch the Swiss and Greeks around with non supplied units
And for spain
maiden verge
Why have alsaice Lorraine when you have a shit ton of colonies and allies
You can have both
crisp wyvern
They have 108 divisions on field
They crumbled the second my motorized and armor came in
inland falcon
spains easy
crisp wyvern
They crumbled the second my motorized and armor came in
Poland lasted longer than Spain lmao
opaque zinc
Man I fr gotta find a different game to play ts so difficult
crisp wyvern
It took me more war effort to defeat Poland than France and Belgium combined
sharp sierra
Man I fr gotta find a different game to play ts so difficult
who u playing & how many hours u got
crisp wyvern
Man I fr gotta find a different game to play ts so difficult
it's not tbh, the game is just overwhelming at first, it gets easier overtime
crisp wyvern
who u playing & how many hours u got
playing as minor nations is the best way to improve in hoi4
opaque zinc
who u playing & how many hours u got
I usually play minor countries like Czech, Netherlands, Hungary, pretty much all of the baltics, and yeah that’s it
crisp wyvern
and btw, the first nation I ever played in hoi4 was manchukuo
opaque zinc
I only have like 20 hours but only like 7 is actual playing
sharp sierra
I usually play minor countries like Czech, Netherlands, Hungary, pretty much all...
yea just play germany