hoi4-general

[reef blaze]

?

[tulip thorn]

What the hell are you asking for

[reef blaze]

.

[warped flint]

huh

[fair horizon]

wat

how does 36 = 51

why is the game lying?

[sudden thistle]

Taxes

[fair horizon]

oh that makes sense

carry on then

[warped flint]

2 achievements

[terse skiff]

https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Fuel#Ships because the nominal fuel usage is never your actual fuel usage

[fair horizon]

well that makes it even worse because it was on the training job

which should be 0.6x

so like 18 fuel

eh w/e it wasnt trickling enough xp anyways

[terse skiff]

do you have any other fuel consumption modifiers

or other task forces doing something

[fair horizon]

not to my knowledge

i hate civil war mechanics

WHY CANT I MOVE MY TROOPS TO THE OTHER ISLAND WHERE THEY SHOULD HAVE SPAWNED PARADOX?

now i have to hope they win because i cant influence it at all

[dry kayak]

did you buy the "transport troop" DLC?

Only 69.99$

[fair horizon]

doing a whole hell of a lot in balikpapan when java is where all the fighting is

[lament swan]

anyone know what is going on i am not training any of my troops but its not giving them any infantry equipment even though its giving support equipment

[sly elm]

''how would you like your soviet union sir?''
me: and i took that personally

[terse skiff]

you have shortages, check your stockpile

[fair horizon]

so im just unable to do anything here right?

[terse skiff]

do you have enough convoys?

[fair horizon]

im a voluenteer

i cant move my troops to java or sumatra

oh thank god they managed to accidentally move one of their units onto java

wait is japan not fascist anymore?

[proud widget]

is this normal?

[fair horizon]

what happened to hirihito?

[terse skiff]

japan was changed to make it more historic

[fair horizon]

so when do they become fascist?

[terse skiff]

no, in historic, republican spain is programmed to lose

[terse skiff]

when they do their political focus and purge the kodoha

[fair horizon]

because i want to do this

[proud widget]

it has no portrait?

is that normal

[terse skiff]

yeah, he's the guy that becomes leader of republican spain when it becomes socialist

and that guy has no portrait

[proud widget]

okay

thanks

[heavy vigil]

indonesia has no convoys

[fair horizon]

they had around 30 actually

[heavy vigil]

well not enough for the troops

and probably used up for trade/supply

[fair horizon]

still kinda dumb for it to switch where my troops deploy

[heavy vigil]

try clicking only 1 div

yeah

[foggy dune]

when will italy join my faction

[fair horizon]

since they used to deploy in the lesser sumatra islands

or sudna islands

[foggy dune]

what do I do in this situation

[sudden thistle]

Decisions

Price controls focus

And autarky

[foggy dune]

do I have to get the autarky achieved national focus or what

theres not really much about the mefo bills in decisions tho

[sudden thistle]

To completely remove it, yes

[sudden thistle]

When ur at war and capitulate a country u can lower consumer goods

[candid axle]

hello

[deft lava]

ghaltida ghaltida

[warped flint]

Saved germany cause they got themselves into a war with the soviets

and lost half their country

[trim lotus]

So, this is the first game I've been really happy with and carried past 1941. Playing the US, losses are currently at 138K. I'm deep into the Japanese home islands, kicked the Axis out of North Africa, prepping for Operation Overlord, and...

Like 50K of my casualties occurred in the first couple weeks trying to ram my army headfirst into the Peruvian mountains. Went much smoother after a naval landing into Lima.

[heavy vigil]

ignore it

conquer stuff

price controls focus

then decisions after focus

[dusky burrow]

Yeah Peru is just like that

[stuck nymph]

free france is gonna get absolutely cooked

[wicked glacier]

fr

[dusky burrow]

<@&846894118219022336>

[heavy vigil]

6 7

[molten forge]

love it when hoi4 doesnt wanna open up

[misty fossil]

Restart honestly

[crude spear]

Guys one questions, with these new updates militia looks kinda strong, but how do i get militas as the soviets for example?

[misty fossil]

PRC gets strong militias because they have country-specific buffs for militias

for soviets normal inf is still better

[crude spear]

Even if i choose the doctrines for the buffs, like the reeinforcerate is crazy i saw

[fair horizon]

romania why do you want to dock in australia

[misty fossil]

@grave phoenix yo dude is militia ussr viable

[trim lotus]

... I have just found the most beautiful power move.

The UK decided "hey, because we're democratic and all, let's invade Iraq. For reasons."

Iraq then decided to join the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, right as I was halfway through the Home Islands.

The UK has no power in this peace conference. I can just annex Iraq, despite frowning very deeply at the UK's invasion thereof.

[crude spear]

@misty fossil but like how do i even get militias haha?

[misty fossil]

dont know

I never bothered to try

now that you said it i dont think you can

[grave phoenix]

u cant edit it so no

its good if u can edit it

commy china can

[true nacelle]

why is germany in this game isn't that offensive?

[light nova]

because you never wanted chocolate

and what you really wanted was raw liver

[light nova]

you playing hist?

[true nacelle]

yeah

[light nova]

what year is it for you

[true nacelle]

1942

[light nova]

Hmmm

I guess Hitler decided to be a good boy

[true nacelle]

HITLER!! 😍

[warped flint]

is germoney cooked

[true nacelle]

no steiner will attack

[fair horizon]

the usa hasnt even joined the war italy

italy is fumbling the bag 🥀

[magic aspen]

me: barely holding on fighting America as Germany
my faction members who are supposed to be part of the war: damn bro that's crazy, Europe is great tho

[fickle thicket]

then fix it

[fair horizon]

not my faction not my problem

[vapid cradle]

whats the most fun run in yalls opinion? i did a classic germany run and holy it was boring

ran thru poland and france

uk aswell

and soviet union was fun for 2 minutes but i encirceled the entire army

even thop heavy attrition

[fair horizon]

commie brazil

[vapid cradle]

i played poland a fwe years ago and it was fun asf

icl building for 3 years and to fight very small is kinda unrewarding

[magic aspen]

this is actually so frustrating

like my faction starts sending their forces across the Atlantic, and then they just turn around and go back

like I don't understand why they refuse to do anything

screw it I'm using cheats since my allies refuse to work properly

[vapid cradle]

do people look at online focus tree guides or freestyle them? if they look at it anyone have a link or smt?

[magic aspen]

I generally freestyle it

just look for what I want to do diplomatically, focus economy and go from there

[vapid cradle]

i have no idea how to do bizantine

[fickle thicket]

austria restoring the austro hungarian empire

so peak

[mild hazel]

whats up gang

[mild hazel]

what do you feel about cheese strats

[magic aspen]

being mad at the AI you?

[mild hazel]

theres a pretty well known way of getting a byzantine game going

[vapid cradle]

mis

mid

great if im losing

[vapid cradle]

how

i played a year ago i had like byzantine and macedonian empire too but i alwtas followed step by step gameplays

[mild hazel]

ah, well when you fail the megali idea and go to war with turkey, you just put line filler near the edirne front and a couple around the port of athens but not on the port

you let them naval invade athens

then you just keep killing their units when they reinforce

its called port strats

[mild hazel]

since they should only have the 1 tile in athens

and turkey will run out of troops quite fast

then you just grab all the victory points in turkey

[vapid cradle]

i entrenched at rhw only acailable botder with turkey

and it was a huge meatgrinder

[mild hazel]

yeah, squeezing your troops through istanbul isnt a good idea

[fair horizon]

yeah let them grind themselves to dust and then push

encircle a few units if you feel like it

[mild hazel]

you only need good enough units to hold the line

[vapid cradle]

i want a fun ganeolay tho

[mild hazel]

cuz turkey is pretty similar to you in strength, just a better navy

[vapid cradle]

3 year of preperston on germany was lowk rxhaysting

[fair horizon]

they really buffed the allies in the latest dlc :/

[mild hazel]

try british empire

[fair horizon]

either that or i just got braindead japan

[mild hazel]

its my favourite chill one

[steep forge]

Guys what planes should I use for fighting Poland

[warped flint]

how can I get these to actually work idk how to fix this

[vapid cradle]

polish conmonwealth was so peak

[vapid cradle]

is it active

[fair horizon]

which sea is that? they're based in scapa flow

[mild hazel]

what are you trying to do

[pseudo raven]

i just wanted to do navy

[mild hazel]

hit the little cog wheel next to the scapa flow button

[noble venture]

Anyone got some good tips to learn how to play

[mild hazel]

why it isnt on by default stuns me

[warped flint]

Thank you

[pseudo raven]

they lost 1 million people on me and than abandoned fronts

[steep forge]

Guys what planes should I use for fighting Poland

[mild hazel]

this is a paradox game, im afraid youll have to be more specific

[fair horizon]

cas planes

[vapid cradle]

i had 600 fleets after capitulating allies it was phenomenal

[noble venture]

😭

[vapid cradle]

i followed just gameplay or one by one tutoeial

helped me

im still mid ash tho

[noble venture]

Ty

[vapid cradle]

polish commonwealth eas lowkey such a peak run

[noble venture]

My attention span is to short to watch anything longer than 2 seconds

[vapid cradle]

i had mobilized infantry template and shredded aoviets because i couldnt afford tanks

[mild hazel]

just play some games as italy and learn how to do the war side of things since hoi4 diplomacy is about as useful as a pile of crap. its all about war

[vapid cradle]

im talm avr watching loke hour long gameplays or step bt step guides and kinda flllowing what they do

worked for me

[noble venture]

K ty

[mild hazel]

yeah so this is probably why you arent having fun then lol

who are you watching

[noble venture]

😭

[vapid cradle]

noo this was like when i first first strated

years ago

[noble venture]

The only game ive played remotley similar is roblox ron

[mild hazel]

ohhh

[vapid cradle]

yeah i liked it

but they removed electeonics trick

havent playf in a whiile

[noble venture]

And the lobbys are straight up milking hoi4

[noble venture]

Its kinda buns tbh

U spend 20mins trying to get US

[vapid cradle]

i took a big ass break like yesr idk i was buns back then i was more reliant on videos and now i freestyled germany

[buoyant flume]

yeah a deafeat

[vapid cradle]

just followed some guys focus tree

[noble venture]

Js to get nuked by cyprus

[buoyant flume]

im the ussr

[mild hazel]

i recommend machiavellian strategist, my favourite hoi4 guide youtuber

he helped me alot when i started out

[vapid cradle]

i watched bittersteel

[warped flint]

I have never seen this event before

[vapid cradle]

i followed his germany focus teer and always followd him in the past aswell

[mild hazel]

its a british empire event

[warped flint]

ohhh

[mild hazel]

i got it for the first time the other day

[warped flint]

I think im going to try to do my first world conquer

[mild hazel]

as british empire its probably the easiest

so gl

[vapid cradle]

/annex all

[vapid cradle]

it gets ely boring

no?

[warped flint]

I basically own everything already but the axis

[agile mauve]

Man those are the important news, i mean running out of bananas is quite the crisis

[warped flint]

I am in the axis but ill just invade them after japan is defeated

[vapid cradle]

becomes a walk in the park or a tedius long process of justifying wars

[mild hazel]

eh, i mean most world conquests are boring once all majors are down

[vague lion]

I need Beta Testers for a new mod i'm making. Dm me so i can add you on steam (it's a closed alpha)

[fair horizon]

Anyone feel like its difficult to do naval invasion support now? Like if you dont start with at least one capital you might as well just not be able to do it the entire game because of the requirement to do naval invasions now

Or am i just stupid and you can still do naval invasion while patroling or strike forcing?

[vapid cradle]

u do navak invasion by patroling gng

u get superiority from pateoling

and u incade by getting superiority

98% sure

[warped flint]

guys how can I recover from this naval battle ?

[fair horizon]

Nah its over

[warped flint]

I lost 8 planes

I am cooked

[fair horizon]

All of britian's aluminum

[magic aspen]

well I finally beat america

I just had to add manpower through debug to replace the glitched divisions from my faction and it was enough

[foggy dune]

How do I decrease resistance in occupied nations permanently

as germany

[sterile nacelle]

Reichscomisoriate them

[velvet trail]

building_landmark_big_ben_destroyed_02

[icy wyvern]

someone name an random hoi4 country

[velvet trail]

nepal

[heavy vigil]

nepal

[warped flint]

kinda wanna betray the axis right now but im...

kinda scared...

[noble venture]

Better start praying

[buoyant flume]

do u own all british puppets

[warped flint]

yeah

[buoyant flume]

send a ss on what you own

[warped flint]

I turned the game off for today

[buoyant flume]

k dm it when your on it

[snow rain]

mfw ~300 ships win against 13

[molten forge]

Is it a good idea to use subs if I don't know shit about navy

[snow rain]

in singleplayer either use subs (1940 or cruiser subs, ideally get snorkel) and engage in all seazones but shallow seas
OR use light cruisers with loads of light attack and doomstack your navy to destroy anything

[molten forge]

Alr

[stark pebble]

now this is a good hoi4 save

[copper sluice]

do general traits on a field marshall actually do anything

[cosmic spoke]

hello

[ripe slate]

Welcome

[steep forge]

How do I peace with a country and make all borders return to pre war using cheats

[warped flint]

I actually have 2 million manpower

[long pendant]

Lmao

I once command lined annex for entire world just to see what would happen

[viscid sleet]

Hey question for yall

[steep forge]

How do I peace with a country and make all borders return to pre war using cheats

Someone please help

[long pendant]

whitepeace

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[steep forge]

It’s saying failed to whitepeace with any of specified country’s

[viscid sleet]

I have mexico in the axis, my German troops on the both usa boarders and at war with both usa during their civil war.
Why can't I enter the territory of America when I attack?

[long pendant]

Did you add the country tags?

[steep forge]

Yes Ï did

[long pendant]

Hmm

[steep forge]

whitepeace GER FRA

[long pendant]

That should work, maybe try this: make them yesmen

[steep forge]

Will that return borders to pre war

[long pendant]

As well as allowdiplo

Then there might be

An option for white peace

When looking at diplomacy tab

[steep forge]

Ok tell me the command to type

[long pendant]

Alr

Type this

allowdiplo

yesmen

Then go to their diplomacy menu where you can interact with them and there might be an option

[steep forge]

It says unknown command

[long pendant]

yesman

Men vs man might be a difference

[steep forge]

Worked

[long pendant]

Alr

[steep forge]

Now what do I do to regain pre war land and end war

[long pendant]

You did allowdoplo right?

[steep forge]

Yup

[long pendant]

*allowdiplo

So click on the country

Like france

[steep forge]

K

[long pendant]

And there should be a whitepeace option

[steep forge]

Don’t see any

[long pendant]

Sorry, I'm also new

Hopefully someone else can help

Maybe try na pact?

[dusky burrow]

Yes

You get half the terrain penalty reduction that you would if they were acting as a general

[stuck inlet]

Guys how do I now take Transylvania, Austria, South Tyrol and South Polish cities from former Austro-Hungarian Empire if my situation is Allies are allied with half of the world

(I'm new)

[long pendant]

Oof uhh let me look at that rq

[steep forge]

How do I get whitepeace in diplo menu someone please help

[long pendant]

Wait a minute

Are you fighting allies

[steep forge]

No

I don’t think the Germans are friend with the allies

[long pendant]

No like

Is France part of allies

[steep forge]

Yes

[long pendant]

And England leads allies

[steep forge]

Yes?

[long pendant]

So you should try with them

Because they are leading the war

That should end the war

[steep forge]

Nope see nothin

[long pendant]

Wb the command?

[steep forge]

Tell me what I should type

[long pendant]

Are you defending or attacking

[steep forge]

Attacking cuz I first attacked Poland

[long pendant]

Ahh alr

So it would be

[steep forge]

But now I’m on defense since I’m getting assaulted

[long pendant]

Hm

Show me ss of the war menu

[long pendant]

Huh on the bar it should be red and blue

[steep forge]

It says summary screen doesnt show progress and to click on specific war

[long pendant]

Try this: whitepeace FRA GER instead

Because the game is rally specific on order

[steep forge]

Failed

[long pendant]

Oh

Uh

Here's the whitepeace command guide ig sorry https://hoi4cheats.com/command/whitepeace

[stuck inlet]

Ts how my state looks btw

croatia my puppet

[steep forge]

I did it

Turned out I needed to do whitepeace GER POL

Cuz that’s how it all started

[long pendant]

lol

[long pendant]

1944 is a little late soooo

[stuck inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094298161297768601/1437769914004799548/resize.gif

[long pendant]

also is that the german repub what now?

[stuck inlet]

Yes Nazi germany has gone at war with Soviets

I was at war with both

they got defeated

[long pendant]

hmm

alright well

[stuck inlet]

Also you are NOT going to get off that easy

[long pendant]

show me war menu

[long pendant]

zamn\

[long pendant]

im being so honest right now

i dont know how you can hold up right now

[stuck inlet]

Uh

You got me wrong

I'm not at war with the allies

I'm allied to them, but I want to leave the faction later and get the stuff done

[long pendant]

Ohhhhh

alr

so

request garrisons first off

[stuck inlet]

how do i do that 😭

[long pendant]

you may not have many troops but you can push from your side

[long pendant]

alr click on an ally and at the very botton it should say request garrison but wait

if it has an x then find another country

especially one that you have the best relations with

[stuck inlet]

you mean ask for control of a state?

[long pendant]

no

anythin glike this?\

[long pendant]

if you dont find it its okay it imght a dlc issue

but

set like 8 of your troops to attack

do u know how to attack?

[stuck inlet]

Yeah, right click on land if that's what you mean

or through a battle plan

[long pendant]

yeah a bttle plan

because hear me out

while you may have less troops

they are gonna have to use troops on you

rather than defending from idk flipping japan

[stuck inlet]

Brochacho, I can't stretch my army over all the territories i have

[long pendant]

hmm

[stuck inlet]

except if I'll have to do something like when i did against Soviets and Yugoslavs

Resorting to 6 tiles

[long pendant]

lol

alr

i have an idea

go to recruit and deploy

[crude spear]

Can someone tell me how i can convert my tank converts from "normal tanks" to TDs?

[long pendant]

do you have a custom template or smth?

[long pendant]

LOL

[crude spear]

@long pendant im meaning like im building a cheap tank with the heavy mg to later convert it to Tank destroyers

[long pendant]

alr

so

[woven slate]

this is wild you did a comeback?

[stuck inlet]

then?

[stuck inlet]

yeah

twice actually

[long pendant]

click on this button if its red

[stuck inlet]

First time I was beating them up but at the same time i overstretched my army

[stuck inlet]

So I had to go back to defending

then I started liberating western Hungary

and the Balkans slowly

even Austrians

[long pendant]

you click on those tanks

[woven slate]

oh bro thats wild.. i would probably alt+f4

[long pendant]

@crude spear

then that

[crude spear]

Convert these to TD, because if i try to just remodel this one i cant convert these chassis to td´s

[long pendant]

ohh

i got confused

[crude spear]

🚬

[long pendant]

lol

i dont know

[crude spear]

okay thanks

[long pendant]

im new too lol

[crude spear]

hahahah all g!

[woven slate]

how many hours you got?

[long pendant]

uhhh

lemme check

[woven slate]

alrightyy

[long pendant]

30 hours

[woven slate]

oh my god

[long pendant]

not including accidental overnight afks

[woven slate]

i see i see

your knowledge is pretty fine tho when i was at 30th hour i was still justfying against austria

as germany

[long pendant]

lol i got into hoi4 by those what if videos

@stuck inlet i just got this

[woven slate]

i have never watched any videos about hoi4 i actually saw hoi4 because it suggested me

[stuck inlet]

😭

With 1 tile it would be way harder even if you had max forts

[long pendant]

lol

[stuck inlet]

due to combat width

[woven slate]

world conquests are really getting you out of your mind bro

[long pendant]

im saying

the game is hardcoded ot ALWAYS have two superpowers fighting

[woven slate]

LMAO thats so true

[long pendant]

i will bomb your tea britfish bums

[woven slate]

i sometimes try to do templates but then i remember that i gotta do researches and stuff and im like hell no im too lazy for this shit

[drowsy bronze]

these monsters have been holding it together for 2 years

[woven slate]

cursed image

[drowsy bronze]

how

africa?

[woven slate]

yea and soviet japan alliance then india

[drowsy bronze]

well not an alliance

soviets puppeted japan

its 1947

[woven slate]

okay then thats pretty normal

[drowsy bronze]

japanese and british teamed up and got crushed

alt hist.....

wait it actually isnt

idk why japan wound up at war with me

[drowsy bronze]

india is my doing

[woven slate]

but thats kinda ironic tho.. how come soviet onion naval invaded japan and british

[drowsy bronze]

i puppet/decolonize everything when i beat the allies

[dusky burrow]

RIP nuclear reactor

[flat pawn]

who wants to play hoi4 with me

[drowsy bronze]

nah i invaded the brits i just forgot to get them in the treaty and they became a soviet puppet

[dusky burrow]

what do your tanks look like

[drowsy bronze]

i only use amphibious tanks

[dusky burrow]

divisional template i mean

[drowsy bronze]

kidding

[dusky burrow]

amphibious tanks are fine

[dusky burrow]

doctrines

[woven slate]

thats wild

[dusky burrow]

rough

[dusky burrow]

where are the flame tanks and assault engineers

[drowsy bronze]

yo lowkey

everyone tells me here to use flame tanks

but i think they are dlc

[dusky burrow]

Oh right

[drowsy bronze]

cause i cant find them

im playing no dlc only rt56

[lethal tapir]

Hey guys i know i said id return in 3 years

[drowsy bronze]

its only a stalemate because i have no fuel and horrible supplies

half my units cant even advance

[lethal tapir]

But i had to come say hey

[woven slate]

hey

[long pendant]

id imagine a meal would be biriyani, with a side of alcohol matcha tea with roasted spiders

[delicate prism]

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡STUPD GAME BUGGED MY SAVE AGAIN😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[lethal tapir]

Ok ill return in a week-4 months from now

[lethal tapir]

Calm down man

Its just a game

[woven slate]

what the actual hell this shit is so true LMFAO

[delicate prism]

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡STUPID GAME

[long pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-4-looksmax-sigma-sigma-face-gif-232308269668432623

[dusky burrow]

no step back i believe

[dusky burrow]

the supply should be good enough in ukraine and belarus to push

[woven slate]

USA IS WITH SOVIET

[drowsy bronze]

no equipment

yea usa went commie 😭

[dusky burrow]

Lmao

But that division is too large

[dusky burrow]

Stay under 40 width at almost all times

[lethal tapir]

This is what you wanna use in barbarossa

[woven slate]

the best template someone can have be like

[lethal tapir]

Idk what youre on about

[drowsy bronze]

mexico lowkey stood up to the US for like 2 years
they still havnt capitualted but they lost mexico city

[dusky burrow]

Barbarossa is half forests

[lethal tapir]

This is most efficient division

[lethal tapir]

Yes my camels are trained in iwnter warfare

[dusky burrow]

Camels can survive in cold, harsh weather indeed

[lethal tapir]

They are proud italian-libyan

[dusky burrow]

That said

[lethal tapir]

With italian-libyan riders

[woven slate]

then you can just ally them and then pushing to america

[drowsy bronze]

i am allied

i dont have enough units to send any to mexico

[woven slate]

ow

[dusky burrow]

mechanically, forests are a 60 combat width tile, but with any tile you can exceed combat width by 33%

Thus you can get a total of 79.8 cw worth of units into a forest tile

[lethal tapir]

And with how big my stack is they can easily overpower any evil russian army

[drowsy bronze]

they had 90 divs when war started

[dusky burrow]

Thus why you need to be below 40

[lethal tapir]

No no trust me they are prepared for russia

[woven slate]

72 divisions?? is this even enough for soviet??

[lethal tapir]

They even ate all the allied divisions at dday

[drowsy bronze]

thats mexico not me

[woven slate]

oh i got scared

[lethal tapir]

No one beats my camels

[drowsy bronze]

i have 500 divisions

[lethal tapir]

Infact i stopped producing tanks to make camels instead

[dusky burrow]

They are not

[lethal tapir]

They are

The russians saw my army of camelry and instantly surrendered

[drowsy bronze]

im fighting in eastern europe, finland, afghanistan, iran, africa, ireland, south america, and central asia

[dusky burrow]

that didn't happen

[lethal tapir]

Yes it did

[dusky burrow]

You were probably pushed all the way to Rome

[lethal tapir]

Are you accusing me of lies

[drowsy bronze]

wtm here

[woven slate]

how did you end up like this

[dusky burrow]

that one tile is a mountain tile

[stuck inlet]

Soviet war

I contributed a lot

[dusky burrow]

also supply issue

[woven slate]

oohh so it concluded i see

[drowsy bronze]

if i have naval dominance will they just starve

[lethal tapir]

My camel divisions marched to moscow without any russian resistance

[dusky burrow]

No

[drowsy bronze]

im not pushing 30 divs in 3 tiles bro 😭

[dusky burrow]

Because Belfast is their capital hub

[lethal tapir]

I had 48 of them

I had to abandon kenya to make my camels

But it was worth it

[dusky burrow]

Just naval land on Belfast if you can

[woven slate]

huge encircle

[lethal tapir]

To destroy the russian menace

[leaden lance]

E

[dusky burrow]

You really can do anything in singleplayer

[copper sluice]

how do I get a second state as luxembourg

[winged field]

Go fascist take Belgium and Netherlands or go communism and defend against Germans till they bleed out

[copper sluice]

why can I not go communist and take belgium

[drowsy bronze]

persia has fallen

[winged field]

You can but then you will not have Germans as allies.

Then you gonna fight against allies and axis

[drowsy bronze]

soviets r cooked

[copper sluice]

they are also communist and I am in their faction

but how do I make sure I get enough war support to have at least 1 state?

[winged field]

Wait for ear tension to ride or check if you can't ride it via pp decisions

[copper sluice]

ah fk netherlands is in the faction as well now

[copper sluice]

I meant war score

[winged field]

Take cities, if you click on tile with city u can see how much points you get from capturing it

The bigger the better

[copper sluice]

its not looking good

[long pendant]

yo how do i fix ts 🥀

[viscid sleet]

I have mexico in the axis, my German troops on the both usa boarders and at war with both usa during their civil war.
Why can't I enter the territory of America when I attack?

[heavy vigil]

it doesnt mobilize instantly

[midnight galleon]

Maybe you havent called mexico to the war

[long pendant]

bro it flashbangs me with 7k troops randomly

[viscid sleet]

i am calling them in but nothing happens, they dont agree or disagree to join

well shit, mexico has a non agression pact

[long pendant]

where can i get more manpower

[inner hemlock]

legal status of women and conscription law

[long pendant]

lol alr

also another thing

how do i successfully win the civil war against the nazis at the very beginning of 1936 nazi germany

"mein furryher the antifurs attacked"

[ornate marlin]

whats the most efficient way to get mastery for armour and support doctrines

light tank spam and train for armour?

[opal nymph]

Honestly no idea.

Battleplanning though gets you a lot of mastery for support

But it's pre war I assume

[ornate marlin]

yea

i use the convert trick to prep my veteran tanks right before ww2 starts

[opal nymph]

There is this whole strategy to train with empty divisions basically

[ornate marlin]

esp as ussr when you just about get your tank destroyers before barbarossa

[opal nymph]

But it is so convoluted

[ornate marlin]

empty as in equipment disabled?

[opal nymph]

Well there is this whole thing

Where you swap between divisions that have equipment and equipment that is disabled

And it confuses the game where you can train with empty divisions without taking penalties

Or something like that

[ornate marlin]

um

putting that aside how best to get armour doctrine then

light tank spam?

[opal nymph]

Probably

[terse skiff]

Don't spam light tanks

[magic aspen]

everyone's favorite faction, the bolivia coalition between Bolivia and Turkey

[terse skiff]

You can spam light spgs but that's only for early game, from 1942 onwards you want medium spgs

[ornate marlin]

wdym

im building medium spg and heavy td

but im making a base chassis then converting

so wont actually have any armour to train until 39

so i can just make light tanks in the mean time for xp?

[terse skiff]

you can but germany starts with medium tanks right?

i can't remember the exact details but germany has tank research buffs

[ornate marlin]

no?

germany only starts with light tanks

interwar medium and basic heavy

[sly sluice]

can someone please explain to me why engeneer are not worth it? or did i made a false thinking because of the country i was playing with? (poland)

[heavy vigil]

30 support equipment is a lot

120 IC

simplifying logistics is also good

[sly sluice]

yes they do. they spawn in with 1934 heavy tank which is kind of a good head start knowing most devellopped country(atleast the ones i play) don't

[heavy vigil]

engineers are better if your unit is larger, 9/0 and smaller dont tlly benefit

[heavy vigil]

they start with interwar mediums

which is fine

[sly sluice]

whats all about that 9/0 6/0 bs?

[heavy vigil]

tank research buffs are mostly irrelevant

[heavy vigil]

its how many infantry batallions you have

[sly sluice]

its not a buff tho. you spawn in with them

[terse skiff]

9 inf 0 art, 6 inf 0 art

[sly sluice]

oh

[ornate marlin]

what if i use armour cars to get armour doctrine

[sly sluice]

that makes it alot easyer

[ornate marlin]

it has lower ic than light tanks even

[terse skiff]

don't build armor cars

you're wasting your ic

[ornate marlin]

what if i just spam armoured cars

[heavy vigil]

its a strat yes

[sly sluice]

build mechanized instead

[terse skiff]

just build light tanks if you don't plan to build medium tanks soon

[sly sluice]

well if you can

[heavy vigil]

relying on speed of AC 3

[ornate marlin]

yeah but im gonna use my light tanks for armour recon

i dont wanna lose them to attrition

[opal nymph]

Not just AC 3

[ornate marlin]

armoured cars idc about so i can just spam to train

[opal nymph]

AT AC

[terse skiff]

you don't need armor recon

[opal nymph]

AT AC gets that even FASTER speed

[ornate marlin]

lol ok

[opal nymph]

Why use it as recon when you can use it as frontline

20 km/h divisions that overrun everything

[sly sluice]

the hell even is that? armored recon support?

[opal nymph]

Unless it is winter

[terse skiff]

yeah light tank recon support company

[sly sluice]

oh

[ornate marlin]

so how should i get armour doctrine

[terse skiff]

you send your tanks to spain

and then use tanks in war

you don't need doctrines to beat all the way to france

[ornate marlin]

no i send my converts to spain

so i have 7 vet tanks for ww2

[ornate marlin]

i am playing sheeps mod

[sly sluice]

because most of the time you can't follow up. to over run you gotta make them retreat. and well im not an expert but i don't think armored cars soft attack is really the deal

[coral gorge]

they have enough soft attack

[sly sluice]

if you wanna overrun make it a secondary line that you bring up to the front when attacking

[coral gorge]

AC1 sucks though

[opal nymph]

I completely vaporized a 1945 Soviet frontline

[coral gorge]

AC1 has the same soft attack stat as 1936 inf

[opal nymph]

By overrunning and encircling

[sly sluice]

that way you can overrun and deal the real damage

[coral gorge]

AC3 divs have like 450 soft attack at this point

[opal nymph]

36 with armored car divisions pack a punch

Especially with mechanized helping them

[sly sluice]

who's still fighting ussr in 1945? unless you're democratic

[coral gorge]

this was a 1.16 AT AC div

[opal nymph]

UK

Germany died in 40

[sly sluice]

well yeah but how much does it costs you? with that you could make an attack speciallized div and one small armoured car div behind to over run when the ennem retreats

[coral gorge]

1.17 AC has a bit less org but more attack values

[opal nymph]

And I couldn't get a war goal

[opal nymph]

I built my entire army around speed

And armored cars

[coral gorge]

well an advantage to AC build is that it streamlines your tech priority

[opal nymph]

Oh yeah it did

I didn't even need to research tanks

[coral gorge]

no tank, no maintenance company

no inf tech

[ornate marlin]

if im using teefee strat whats best way to get armour doctrine before ww2

[sly sluice]

idk man. i play more on casualitties

[opal nymph]

Oh I did inf tech

[coral gorge]

you don't need flame tanks either

[sly sluice]

i stay in defence until its time

[opal nymph]

I only took 300k casualties to the Soviets 7.2 mil

[coral gorge]

just attack when you can

[opal nymph]

And I was constantly on the offensive

[sly sluice]

well if you're overrunning them it kinda makes sense

[opal nymph]

I never went above extensive conscription as the UK

[coral gorge]

this was my Habsburg Poland game that I did yesterday

offence is the best defence

[opal nymph]

My 19 armored car divisions (I had like 7k ACs in stockpile lmao) rolled everything over

I also had an army of mechanized troops

That is why i couldn't field more ACs

[coral gorge]

tbh key issue with AC build is that

very few countries can actually commit to it

like only UK GER SWE ITA can probably bother enough with it

[opal nymph]

I had an army of mechanized, army of motorized i think, the armored car army, and 2 armies of inf to help fill the frontline

China has an AC designer

As its only armor designer

But it's also china

[coral gorge]

terrains suck and theres just no supply so well

[opal nymph]

But dude, armored cavalry subdoctrine is quite nice

[fresh dust]

[opal nymph]

I managed to get a lot of mech buffs

[sly sluice]

i don't make defenses. i make walls. i stop my ennemy in a good spot. get them fighting for like 2/3 month without pushing through because i prepared and the reason i play that way is usually because of the KD ratio. it also means i need less war effort and so i can sell stuff mid war. no problem

[coral gorge]

then win

[opal nymph]

You know what also works well? 3000 CAS and vaporizing the enemy

[coral gorge]

win the war as Habsburg Poland somehow then

[opal nymph]

By overruning and encircling

[sly sluice]

well thats why i struggle with poland XD its kind of the nemesis of my playstyle

[opal nymph]

Defending wins battles

Offensive battles win wars

[sly sluice]

both works🤷‍♂️

[opal nymph]

My Poland strategy is to hunker down until I am strong enough to push

[coral gorge]

poor excuse

there is little difference

[neat kayak]

Sad that i have two achvs related to austria

only one specific

[coral gorge]

you can do either thing and should arrive at the same place eventually

[neat kayak]

and the other one is generic

[coral gorge]

eventually

[sly sluice]

dude i won against germany playing netherlands.

[coral gorge]

so?

do it as Poland then

[neat kayak]

Great now do it as austria 🙂

[opal nymph]

I won against Germany as Exile Poland

[neat kayak]

i capped to germany as poland

[sly sluice]

its like the easyest thing...

[neat kayak]

i am better than anyone else

:))

[opal nymph]

I took out 5 mil Germans before I let them take Warsaw because I ran out of manpower after not going past limited conscription

[neat kayak]

wait no

i capped to poland as Germany

ha beat this

[opal nymph]

And then I Warsaw Uprising and killed them

[neat kayak]

i should prob shoot myself or touch some grass

[opal nymph]

Easy achievement

[coral gorge]

last I played Exile Poland I just committed sudoku asap then fought through Italy

[sly sluice]

just be for real

[coral gorge]

turned out it was actually easy

[neat kayak]

my first game ever of hoi4 :))

[coral gorge]

easier to farm kills than fighting in Poland

[neat kayak]

back in jan 2023

i made a frontline

[coral gorge]

and you get a cool Italian puppet in 1940

[neat kayak]

and focused more on the French

and poland had free reign over me

[opal nymph]

My Warsaw Uprising video was one of the first videos I was quite proud of

[sly sluice]

i don't getif you're just out of context or of you're trying to ragebait me

[neat kayak]

Bro it's a joke

not meant to ragebait anyone

[coral gorge]

[opal nymph]

Rare moment where someone forgets to guard the polish border instead of the French border lmao

[neat kayak]

man 2025 really left some scars of war 😭 🙏

[neat kayak]

Fr

i realised when i got the event that Berlin fell

then ragequited and played AoH2

[opal nymph]

The Polish juggernaut cannot be stopped

[neat kayak]

Goated game ngl

Fr

[drowsy bronze]

aoh2 mentioned

[neat kayak]

900 spent on this game

W

[drowsy bronze]

yessir

[neat kayak]

i wanna turn back time

[drowsy bronze]

im a rookie

[neat kayak]

me too dw

[coral gorge]

hmm

[opal nymph]

How did you do the magic school bus achievement btw

[neat kayak]

wait let me send some images real quick

Do this focus first

to send volunteers

[sly sluice]

nah its not that. i had a convo with la sheep and he was kinda getting on my nerves saying i was just making excuses when poland and my playstyle just doesn't works out and you came along saying "i lost to pgermany as poland i am the best player" and i was like why's this guy on my back too?

[neat kayak]

then estimated that ww2 start

Do this one

send volunteers to South africa

the bus

then just drive it to cape town

via strategic railway (B)

[neat kayak]

I just made a general joke dude

[coral gorge]

well, first

you tried to call me a troll at one point while I were explaining how it worked

you didn't seem to like listening even though you were the one to ask how to get it to work

you were getting on your own nerves

[neat kayak]

.

[coral gorge]

not my problem

[opal nymph]

Neat

[neat kayak]

it's not that hard to read man

[coral gorge]

I am just here to answer questions

now

lemme get my role back

just so I have a different colour

[neat kayak]

Btw how can someone main France in this game

[sly sluice]

trust me i was listening. 2 i called you a troll cause saying "get rid of engeneer" sounded weird to someone who has had it confirmed to be good and pretty much a must

[coral gorge]

I even attempted to properly explain why and how Armored Cars would work

[neat kayak]

Engineers are good

line artilerry is meh

[coral gorge]

line arty is better than one may assume it to be

it just doesn't help sometimes

[sly sluice]

i didn't see that text man idk what to tell ya

[neat kayak]

i use it when i play countries with no people

and i need divs to hold and bite back at the enemy

such as in my latvia run

yesterday

i used arty

also anti aa tanks 🙂

and it worked flawlessly

[opal nymph]

I remember using field concentration 9/2s as the US and completely rolled Germany

It also didn't help I did a 72 division d day

[coral gorge]

good stuffs may not actually help sometimes

like tanks are good but kek

[winter fulcrum]

is ts tuff 🥹 (the lion doesnt care about political power)

[neat kayak]

I miss the old nav invasion system

[opal nymph]

I like the new one. It is slower, but I can send more divisions

[neat kayak]

How do you send more divs?

[opal nymph]

Makes me have to research 1940 tech though

[neat kayak]

i need to know this forbidden knowledge

[opal nymph]

1936 tech gives 2 invasions, 6 each

[sly sluice]

and also. when i ask questions i prefer knowing the why rather then just being told do this. thats why it can seem like im not listening or that im arguing but i really am not. i just want to know how things work and the way they work

[coral gorge]

because I have explained

[opal nymph]

1940 I believe allows you 4 invasions of 10

[coral gorge]

you just didn't seem to read

[neat kayak]

wait you can put more than 5 divs in a single nav insaion?

[coral gorge]

[neat kayak]

i usually do 2 nav invasions of 5 divs each

[opal nymph]

1940 tech + marine doctrine gives 6 invasions of 12 divisions each

[opal nymph]

6 divisions per invasion

2 invasions

12 total can be landed at once

[neat kayak]

oh true

forgot about that

[opal nymph]

Buff compared to last update

The only nerf is no 7 day invasions

[neat kayak]

That sucks

[opal nymph]

72 division d day with 1940 tech is peak though

[neat kayak]

i suppose you play a lot of mp?

[opal nymph]

No

I never played MP

Except with friends rarely

[neat kayak]

what mods are you playing?

[opal nymph]

Vanilla

[neat kayak]

same here

only vanilla?

bro i ran out of ideeas

and everytime i see myself selecting Austria

[opal nymph]

I like kaiserreich, Red Dusk, twr, and kx

[sly sluice]

i was. idk if you know about that but in western europe disagreeing with someones sayings is not to be a douchebag and mess up the convo. its to see if your sayings have solid ground to hold on to or not

@coral gorge (and by the way im sorry if you think i talk a lot about stuff that doesn't matter but to me it does)

[neat kayak]

Tbh i kinda lost the love i had for vanilla

since GoE came out

and saw how bad it was

[sly sluice]

idk vanilla feels like you already know what you're gonna have to do base on the country you're playing

like

[neat kayak]

i tried so many times to have fun as a goe nation

and managed only one time as commie afghanistan

the rest

deadzone

[sly sluice]

what's goe btw? isn't it that mod where bots are actually good?

[neat kayak]

Graveyard of Empires

[sly sluice]

oh

[neat kayak]

a dlc that had so much potential

[sly sluice]

its the dlc

[neat kayak]

and it sucks

yes that dlc

[sly sluice]

i mean

[neat kayak]

that came in the same pack as Gotterdammerung

i bought them separately

yeah

but Gotterdammerung carried that pack

[sly sluice]

i play with it and the dlc itslef lacks content yeah but it doesn't make everything else just bad does it?

[neat kayak]

idk

it made me lost the sense for the game

cuz then i saw how other focuses are bad

Greek one

ethiopia

iceland ( even though i am an aat glazer)

[sly sluice]

well yeah but thats gonna be fixed sooner or later

[neat kayak]

No it won't

there are bugs

since NSB

NSB came in nov 2021

[sly sluice]

well yeah but bugs and new content are 2 completely different thing

look at the new japanese focus tree

[neat kayak]

tbh i didn't even played oit

[sly sluice]

its not that good but its better

[neat kayak]

it*

i don't feel comfy with it

it's too much

i played China and Commie China

i had good fun with them true

the Phillies suck

[sly sluice]

australia is basically idle and send

[neat kayak]

Even with australia i had fun

back in nov 2024 before GGR

i did a fascist run

and capped Britain , USA and Japan

[sly sluice]

i mean. if you're looking to fight for the sake of it without really risking anything

democratic australia feels like a fun country

[neat kayak]

it is

especially if you full navy

and go ham with the Japanese

[sly sluice]

don't talk navy to me

it hurts my head

i have ptsd

[neat kayak]

it's easy ngl

but i suck at it cuz i am lazy to dedicate resources to it

[sly sluice]

no its not. you're basically doomed with getting a single ship out per line of production every year or so

[neat kayak]

well

when i play navy

i usually go Bittersteel strat

cheap destroyers

[sly sluice]

ship building gives me ptsd

[neat kayak]

cruisers that shred screens but count as capitals

and carriers

[sly sluice]

and the orders are so goddam messy

and whats up with my boats can't go somewhere if its red even tho its like 2 meters away from my land

and how tf am i supposed to get my hands on a navy playing switserland man

or even germany

most people get a navy by stealing the navy of other countries

what if you just can't do that

like

[neat kayak]

i do it

everytime

i said i know navy

not that i build one

:))

[sly sluice]

hoi4 navy is crushing my head

like i feel how you feel at the very start when you don't know how things work

dude im out here patrolling submarines in the hope of getting supremacy for one half second so i can invade the UK

i mean

if someone can explain it simply without breaking my head like a coconut go for it but i doubt thats possible

i've tried

really

[drowsy bronze]

u cant invade uk until the 2030s

like mathematically

germany cant build up that much navy until the 2030s

thats a lie

btw

what year is it

in ur game

[sly sluice]

well i guess if you do it the best way they best boats designs could pretty much rip their navy open in a few like 3 years but thats crazy

[sly sluice]

oh im not in game rn

[drowsy bronze]

oh

i thought u were askinmg for help on how to invade uk

[sly sluice]

it was just an exemple on why i suck at navy

[drowsy bronze]

lowkey i just be building up my navy and keeping them in port

atleast

the navy i intend to use for the english channel

then i deploy it when i have my invasion force ready

and if it doesnt start building dominance i retreat'

and keep building

[sly sluice]

dude ngl i don't even understand what orders to what

[drowsy bronze]

cause otherwise the uk shreds ur navy

[drowsy bronze]

do u understand the menus and shit

[sly sluice]

i only know "patrol gives naval supremacy"

[drowsy bronze]

i only use patrol ngl

also

a good tip

[sly sluice]

menus of the game? yes. menu of navy. yes. orders of navy no

like

[drowsy bronze]

even if u have a 10/10 admiral there could be multiple task forces that just have like 3 submarines

[sly sluice]

sounds like

https://tenor.com/view/goat-tongue-out-lick-licking-gif-15804782

to me

[brittle oasis]

I just bought the new hoi4 dlc, you know paradox dropped the ball with their sponsors because they kept saying "I've been given sponsored early access" well into november = ie 4-6 weeks after the dlc dropped

[sly sluice]

dude

wtf

i know how orders work now but only towards dominence