hoi4-general

[coral gorge]

that's fine then

can stay with inf arty

[inner hemlock]

tanks are too easy

[coral gorge]

well you can do mech + rocket arty truck too

[inner hemlock]

war is hell and it should stay that way

[coral gorge]

[inner hemlock]

so if anyone declares on me they will have artillery firing down on their capital

[random delta]

son im crine

[coral gorge]

@eternal palm ok its kinda working now

I think a very small piece of paper or sth

slipped underneath the key

causing it to fail to register when pressed, and the key would stick if registered at all

[eternal palm]

Lmao

[coral gorge]

I need to open Word

shouldn't send gibberish here

oh fk I lost the key cap

it has to be in the room with me

I just can't see it

hmm

commie Polen is still the strongest Polen even with the existence of Desperate Defense

maybe I should do a Morges Pact Polen game

[toxic cypress]

shiit

im gonna have to somehow shit out enough good units to handle this

[trim lotus]

I don't get the AI. The UK reclaimed the Suez Canal, only to immediately destroy it.

[rustic sinew]

why does turkey join the allies every game now? its rl annoying, and killing them makes africa and killing russia so easy, can they not stay neutral somehow ?

[coral gorge]

[dusky burrow]

luxembourg isn't in their faction, the miedzymorze are doomed

[dusky burrow]

around 1943 or 1945?

[rustic sinew]

yup it just adds a unfun front, and if u decide to kill them early, it makes the soviets and africa super easy to kill, just a lose lose

[coral gorge]

this is ridiculous

[dusky burrow]

well if you're the allies it's your fault for not shoring up the literal most defendable land routes to the middle east and north africa

[coral gorge]

faction merging is stupid

[rustic sinew]

im talking about playing as axis country

its rl easy to defend as allies and super easy to push from there too

[dusky burrow]

tricky but not insurmountable for axis tbh

it's mostly hills

[toxic cypress]

holy

[dusky burrow]

which yeah makes this an easy way to get into the caucasus and the middle east

[toxic cypress]

maybe i push the war to 1960

[rustic sinew]

yea my main gripe is if u do kill them the soviets break down completely

[distant knoll]

Tbh if it really is a big problem just like annex them into the Swiss

[rustic sinew]

yea ig i can do that

[coral gorge]

united and ready

[dusky burrow]

axis lmao

and yeah stalin is scared

[coral gorge]

lmao

[trim lotus]

So: what are the conditions for encirclement? I thought I should have a fairly large army encircled: they have me on north and south, a neutral country to the east, and the sea to the west. Granted, at least they're short on supplies because they're now cut off from their capital.

[ripe slate]

This vanilla?

[coral gorge]

it is

[ripe slate]

Ive heard the same happens when Czechoslovakia refuses to be integrated into Germany

[coral gorge]

just inaccurate loc string

[ripe slate]

wdym?

[coral gorge]

actually no,

I think the effect has an if limit to check if target is in faction with ROOT

it just doesn't have the localisation to correspond to that case

so like instead of a separate event option altogether,

they just fire it directly

lmao 0% war support moment

happy ending

[vapid cradle]

where do i go from here, what do i atach

[coral gorge]

🔥

[coral gorge]

if possible, add easy maintenance

unlocked from 1939 maintenance company tech

[vapid cradle]

i dont have it for some reason

[coral gorge]

yeah, cuz

[vapid cradle]

what else tho

[coral gorge]

you can add 2x HMG secondary

[vapid cradle]

wet ammunition works for reliability aswell

smt like this?

damn its slow tho

[coral gorge]

yeah, sth like that is fine for the time being

[inland rapids]

ion think its necessary if u are in the range of a supply hub

[coral gorge]

well its basic tank

[inland rapids]

like just stay near good supply

[coral gorge]

you can add more engine upgrades to make it faster

[vapid cradle]

do i do this for now?

[vapid cradle]

gotta research it aswell

[inland rapids]

what are u planning to attack with it?

[vapid cradle]

poland, france

and ussr

encirlement stuff

[inland rapids]

yeah u need hard attack

[vapid cradle]

im on single player tho

is it relevant?

[inland rapids]

i mean kinda

cus AI isnt like players

but idk which u need more in this case

lemme do some research

@vapid cradle look go for soft attack when you are fightng poland and france

and then when going against the USSR go for more hard attack

[ripe slate]

💀 I never knew that useless company unlocked that strong module

[inland rapids]

because i think USSR has more tanks

which need hard attack

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[inland rapids]

hello

[cedar lance]

ive been watching unit org vids

[inland rapids]

idk anything about what that is

because ion even play HOI4

i just joined cus i can

[cedar lance]

alr

[inland rapids]

and all this is what i gained from watching that many HOI4 videos

[cedar lance]

i wanna add a lot of new hoi4 units sub units templates and sub templates

[stark pebble]

its not looking good
the only saving graces are taht were not at war with the soviets, and that weve actually beaten back completely one of the allied naval invasions

[cedar lance]

jesus

[stark pebble]

also wait theres an invasion of portugal

uhhhh

i cant defend it through republican spain

sorry salazar

[snow rain]

no hard attack is needed in singleplayer
@vapid cradle

hard attack only affect units with hardness. AI divs will never exceed 45% hardness until late 1946/47 where they start using crappy modern tanks with mech
until then all you need is soft attack since hard attack would only affect half of the damage dealt to the crappy tank divs the ai has which is so little divs that it's best to only use soft atk and never touch hard atk

[stark pebble]

nevermind

ggs

[slim nexus]

As Russia you can send Volunteer to Ethiopia in 1936.

[snow rain]

yes

you can game ruin italy

[slim nexus]

If you go Historical Italy would not still go fascist?

[slim nexus]

Also I can't defend against Germany I am gonna use every exploit possible

[snow rain]

they should but I think they can have a civil war and be locked out of some focuses

[snow rain]

my guess is no air or anti air ?

[slim nexus]

My Air sucks

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-15530372636024879885

I will defend river and AA exploit

[vapid cradle]

what do i do.

[stark pebble]

decrease the consumer goods factor thing

by like a lot

[vapid cradle]

how

1 time i tought i was doing good dawg

[snow rain]

conquer nations and click the pillage gold decision
do the price cotrol focus and then its decisions

[vapid cradle]

for now theres nothing i xcan do for consumer goods?

already did porice control

[snow rain]

you're supposed to do price control focus quite quickly to prevent rapid growth too

[vapid cradle]

war economy

[vapid cradle]

i did it early on

[snow rain]

you're supposed to go to war and pillage countries then

until you can do the achieve autarky focus

[vapid cradle]

did thta sweklk

how has it gone this high up

its scary

[snow rain]

because you didn't conquer enough countries fast enough

[coral gorge]

power of friendship

[snow rain]

conquer more, pillage their gold

[vapid cradle]

its 1939 march

[coral gorge]

[snow rain]

go to war already

[vapid cradle]

wait im constructing, i can decrease it by 40

[snow rain]

except if you did all the focuses that increase the consumer goods by 10/15% each you shouldn't be using this much CG

[snow rain]

?

[vapid cradle]

i made some decisions

yeaap

going down by alooot

[snow rain]

yeah so you didn't do the price control decision, that was the issue

[vapid cradle]

yea

how long does the construction last

[quasi osprey]

yugoslavia preparing for the worst😂

[crisp scroll]

Another day of making my parents disappointed

[quasi osprey]

[raven owl]

hey anyone here heard of hoi4?

[quasi osprey]

noo

[raven owl]

ah dang it

[quasi osprey]

when the axis attack the soviets they are cooked

[raven owl]

i thought you did not play hoi4

[quasi osprey]

🤦

[raven owl]

what?

[quasi osprey]

ever heard of sarcasm

[raven owl]

no

have you?

lol

[quasi osprey]

no never

[raven owl]

hotdog

[quasi osprey]

pizza

[raven owl]

hamburber

[quasi osprey]

burber

[raven owl]

meow

[quasi osprey]

[raven owl]

[crisp scroll]

[raven owl]

anyways good to know that this server does not play hoi4

[quasi osprey]

what should I choose as italy not in the axis

[sudden thistle]

Accept

Commie bad

[molten forge]

time for a stupid idea

rt56 liberia

[quasi osprey]

just my idea is that if germany is alone they will get defeated by the soviets and I can claim a large chunk of germany

they dont even have the help of romanians

[slim nexus]

How do I put HoI4 tag

[quasi osprey]

very historical🤣

[atomic grove]

dont

assuming that u want to kill germany

[quasi osprey]

yes

I didnt accept

[atomic grove]

ok

[quasi osprey]

I have the better allies

[atomic grove]

what year is it

[quasi osprey]

1940 end

december 1940

[atomic grove]

oh

[quasi osprey]

why?

[atomic grove]

barbarossa in around 6 months

[quasi osprey]

yes

thats good

[atomic grove]

u should get vichy france before the british steal the vichy fleet

while still being in the axis

[quasi osprey]

I want to attack the germans when they are busy trying to win over the soviets

and probably failing to win over the soviets

as they dont have me or the romanians

[charred yew]

hello

i desperately need help with the spanish civil war

[quasi osprey]

bruh this happens when I try to play the game a- historicly

even though they are my allies

[eternal palm]

Just ignore them. They're a nothing burger anyhow

[sage plover]

ello lads

[sage plover]

ignore musolini

when playing italy, mussolini is similar to dragging a kid around a shop and they keep asking you for stuff

"gimmi chocolate!! i want cereal! oooh give me 3k airplanes!!"

you just gotta ignore em

[inner tide]

Thats next level hatred

Comparing mussolini to kid and shi

[sage plover]

only when your playing italy

[eternal palm]

It's entirely correct though

Just get rid of him

[sage plover]

italo balbo my man

[eternal palm]

Dino grandi is so much better

[sage plover]

D:

[eternal palm]

Who gives a fk about balbo

[sage plover]

ME

his name is legit italo

and it rhymes

pure swag

[bold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-shield-gif-4723149553822545077

[sage plover]

RAHHHH

atleast neither balbo or grandi pester you like musolini

[mystic creek]

hello everyone i am quite new here myself and to the game

[sage plover]

fair

welcome!!

good luck

[eternal palm]

Those squiggly lines in your name look like SS lightnings 💀

[mystic creek]

Well i certainly will need that regarding learning the new mechanics and controls ; )

[sage plover]

o_o

[sage plover]

yeahhh dw, ask for help is proper usefull

[mystic creek]

not now just wanted to say hi to everyone

[sage plover]

what do you mean not now? O_O

[eternal palm]

I just wanted to point that out

Carry on

[sage plover]

"oooh thats in my freetime!!"

[mystic creek]

and you did indeed

certainly

[sage plover]

not now is mad tho </3

[mystic creek]

man i just want to get into another fruitless arguement

[sage plover]

oh dw you'll find alotta that here

just say line artillery is nice

or you like it

[mystic creek]

whats the point that we all have 70% in common yet we still could kill eachover for the remaining 30% i dont get the point

[sage plover]

idk man </3

[mystic creek]

its ok to disagree on politics but in the end of the day well i said why

[sage plover]

dont mention politics here, then you'll be fine

i made that mistake once before

[mystic creek]

like a random server member DM'd me and started to attack me for no reasson i tried to be civil and he sent well hmmph lets say explicit content which led to me immediatly blocking him and deleting his DM

[sage plover]

mate, i was playing a multiplayer private game with this guy i met

he seemed chill

[quasi osprey]

[sage plover]

we were talking, it got into politics

but then i disagreed with him on a few points

like i said we shouldnt dehumanise people and we should accept them for their beliefs

he called me a facist nazi dogwhistler </3

[mystic creek]

lol

[sage plover]

despite their beliefs*

[mystic creek]

yes indeed

[sage plover]

accept them despite their beliefs*

[mystic creek]

far left?

[sage plover]

anarchist

so yes

[mystic creek]

"love the sinner not the sin"

[eternal palm]

Dudes. Wrong time and place.

[mystic creek]

how so?

[sage plover]

?

we aint even talking politics, just chatting about crazy ppl

[mystic creek]

fr

[eternal palm]

It's fking hoi4 general and you're talking about the core of your world views and kinda about politics?

Maybe keep it to the game though

[sage plover]

not really,

[mystic creek]

no need for the vulgarities

[eternal palm]

You can argue that with the moderation, I'm just saying

[eternal palm]

Oh yea?

[mystic creek]

and thet responsibility is mine to carry but thank you for caring

dear sir

[sage plover]

but yeah nah, ppl can get abit heated here

i love the kingdom of hungary pre-trianon borders

[quasi osprey]

will the germans be able to attack through the red line?

[sage plover]

no

[quasi osprey]

then its easy

[sage plover]

that red line shows uncrossable tiles

[quasi osprey]

I outnumber the germans 4 to 1

[sage plover]

same with the stuff in africa or the amazon rainforest

[mighty ruin]

Hoi5 in 2030 yall

[quasi osprey]

germans cooked?

its 1941

[sage plover]

u germany?

[quasi osprey]

italy

[sage plover]

oooh

[quasi osprey]

[sage plover]

what path are you going for?

greater italy?

[frail bolt]

Turkish empire seems historical

[quasi osprey]

basically just making the italian league the greatest alliance

[sage plover]

fair play

[quasi osprey]

hopefully I dont get destroyed

hey at least the romanians are competent

they almost took back their territory

[waxen mango]

Can someone give me a hard challenge cus idk what to do

[coral gorge]

[quasi osprey]

withstand germany as belgium

[vital cove]

Greenland world conquest

[waxen mango]

I still have sanity and shower so not like that

[vital cove]

that's not a hard one

[coral gorge]

win the Greco-Turkish war that is caused by a successful Megali Idea convention

[waxen mango]

Already did it

[quasi osprey]

well idk for some it is hard

[coral gorge]

dafuq,

I suggested it mostly because it has very low chance of happening in the first place

usually Megali just fails

[waxen mango]

I did it as the greeks I just did a fallback line to tessaloniki and enerciled them till they didnt have any manpower

[coral gorge]

oh wait

sorry

I meant

as Turkey

[waxen mango]

I can do that but i need rng for the greeks to do that

[coral gorge]

yeah and you need a successful Megali too

[vital cove]

what happens if it succeeds

[coral gorge]

you fight Greece Italy France UK

and anyone allied with them

[vital cove]

oh

[waxen mango]

Its kinda annoying for the turks

[coral gorge]

it is actually just Turkish War of Independence part II

[urban ivy]

form byzantium

[waxen mango]

Did that

[urban ivy]

and have it lead by adolfos I

[coral gorge]

actually much harder now

but it does get pretty funni

and enjoyable

[waxen mango]

I like to play the greeks is fun cus I really like byzantum

[urban ivy]

get adolf hitler as the ruler of byzantium

[heavy vigil]

have fun as switzerland/iceland

[urban ivy]

here goes ur challenge

[vital cove]

Switzerland is not that bad

Iceland however

[coral gorge]

Iceland is giga

don't challenge me

[waxen mango]

Is this still considered hard?

[coral gorge]

nah

[waxen mango]

Fr?

[coral gorge]

well cuz too many people attempted it

[vital cove]

if u do it without copying strats

it's pretty good

[waxen mango]

Atleast this?

Really annoying to do

[heavy vigil]

iceland is cool you should play it

its just hard as a new player to take advantage of it

[waxen mango]

I will need to play tall

[heavy vigil]

or intermediate

[vital cove]

that's not really hard

[waxen mango]

Damn

[vital cove]

just form hre

and conquer the US

[waxen mango]

Did form hre in a campain but didnt bother with the us

[cedar lance]

hello i already made a couple Few ranger templates like fireteam squad section platoon company regiment and battalion

[waxen mango]

Tbh I tried to form the qing china with the manchuko failed miserably because of the japanese being silly and starting a trench warfer in korea

[vital cove]

if you form it while having eva Braun as leader

now that's probably harder

[waxen mango]

Im rusted havent played this game in months

[vital cove]

not sure what are thr conditions to get her

[waxen mango]

Still annoyed that they changed my beloved port strike sub spam

[waxen mango]

Id interest

[coral gorge]

[waxen mango]

But tbh id rather cut my balls then play anything in asia

Its just like sending men armed with sticks to fight some fancy modern samurai with guns

Feels like shiroyama if someone gets the reference

[sudden thistle]

It’s fun

[heavy vigil]

me w/ europe usually

[coral gorge]

I like playing Japan and just...

do barely anything

I won't even conquer China

I just sit there and build an economy

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[waxen mango]

Man in europe Id play as my fav country romania and just go for it and wakeup owing estern europe and fighting the germans

[waxen mango]

Are you masochist by any chance?

[eternal palm]

No he's just not a pssy

Asia is fine wdym

[waxen mango]

Nah Tbh I hate to play in asia its just annoying the most I can do in asia is play as japan id rather play in africa

[heavy vigil]

its oceania thats bleak

[waxen mango]

Yk what. What if I uninstall hoi4 and get my soul back from buying dlc instead of cracking them like at ck3

[sudden thistle]

Africa isn’t better

At all

[eternal palm]

Yea maybe don't mention that 💀

Server rules

[sudden thistle]

This will be really bad out of context

[waxen mango]

Ok appreanty steam decided to open cs2 to sell my soul to valve no thanks id rather sell it to paradox

[waxen mango]

Not the first time

[waxen mango]

Who cares its in my blood to stuff like that Im Romanian after all

[candid forge]

Eternal War?

[waxen mango]

Remindes me of my eternal war

[finite plume]

I like the lighting of your playset

[waxen mango]

The agony of fighing brazil and south africa at the same time with little to no supply

[candid forge]

pain

[finite plume]

🥀

[waxen mango]

Won with 10mil casualites worth it it was the last war before world conquest

[waxen mango]

Did tibet wipe all of their population?

The soviets gonna pull another 30mil

[finite plume]

Tibet definitely helped cause they were just doing a huge attrition war in Asia

[waxen mango]

And after that the 3 people that lived in tibet would enjoy that

[candid forge]

[waxen mango]

Hoi4 enjoyers Im gonna go touch snow and get outside something rare

Wish me luck I can manage the eastern front but no a conversation with a girl

[hidden oak]

I love playing as Saddam Hussein in MD

[proud tapir]

what bro no, dont push in winter you will just waste manpower and equipment

[lapis sun]

😫

[hidden oak]

Me when I jus raid Israel with cruise missiles

[waxen mango]

To late hard pushing in the urals

[pure hawk]

yo hello guys

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262839689023590420/1420095593749155910/skeleton-by-axe-skeleton-twerk.gif

[neat kayak]

Bruh the monarchist path for portugal is broken

you can't core Brazil

[craggy trail]

Hello hello!

Welcome!

[azure dagger]

why romania has fascist flag even tho they are soviet

[finite plume]

🤷‍♂️

I'm guessing they flipped Fascist while being a USSR puppet

[crisp wyvern]

I remember that time where as El Salvador, I tried to form Central America

Costa Rica fought so hard that they ended up getting 276,000-300,000 casualties

And in the most recent playthrough, Honduras lost 201,000 men

Literally that one attempt to reunify central America back in the 1880's

[vapid cradle]

i literally cant reachg uk what can i do

[crisp wyvern]

the powerful sea lion focus

[vapid cradle]

did it

no help

[crisp wyvern]

para troop then

[crisp wyvern]

try making a good airplane design and wear off the royal air force

[vapid cradle]

whats my paras doing dawg

mfs aint crossing it

[crisp wyvern]

you have green air

unless the coast is more defended than the border with the two koreas

[vapid cradle]

i sent 8 paratroopers they gone

imma get more

[buoyant lodge]

never betray the molotov ribbentrop pact, russia

[crisp wyvern]

they landed in Birmingham and instantly got obliterated

[vapid cradle]

imma get 10 more

is it enough\

[crisp wyvern]

the Berlin Moscow pact basically assures that the entire world gangs up against you and russia

[buoyant lodge]

well

[crisp wyvern]

w italy

❤️‍🩹

[sudden thistle]

How do u get in this situation

[buoyant lodge]

i formed the moscow-berlin axis

then tsarist russia refuses to hand over poland after the war

and well then we got to this

oops i forgor the flag

[sudden thistle]

Where is the Moscow part of that alliance

[buoyant lodge]

i removed russia after they stole poland from me lmfao

[crisp wyvern]

mfs changed their capital to st Petersburg, there is no more Moscow 😭 /joke

[buoyant lodge]

might be cooked here tbf

we have 1/3 of their industrial power

[crisp wyvern]

don't worry, Steiner will counter attack

or just release a bio weapon that cleanses all of europe

https://tenor.com/view/cod-zombies-gif-25653854

[buoyant lodge]

lmfao for every tile i conquer, i'll cleanse the local pop

lore accurate fr

[patent thistle]

i might have forgotten to turn of my laptop over a few days-

[sudden thistle]

Bro 😭

[toxic cypress]

blud pretending like he prolly doesnt have a longer streak

[sudden thistle]

My streak is like 10 hours

[crisp wyvern]

my longest streak is 4 hours

I developed nuclear weapons and fighter jets as central america once

I may as well change my name to central America nationalist because of the amount of times I keep mentioning it

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-geometry-dash-skeletal-shenanigans-skeletal-shenanigans-gif-3088646063111746606

[patent thistle]

image you are loosing against litteral pre-dreadnoughts italy

[craggy trail]

I will say the ai does make competent tanks and mechanizes the entire army lategame

[crisp wyvern]

I wiped out millions of south Koreans by launching a nuke at Seoul during a Monarchist China playthrough

[buoyant lodge]

hm

seems very beneficial

[crisp wyvern]

I was planning an invasion to reclaim manchuria because they fell into the Soviet sphere of influence jslwajskw

so, had to create a new flank by brute force

new flank = nuke south koreans

[buoyant lodge]

LOL nuking the civ pop just for a way in is based af

[patent thistle]

they had litterally zero screening italy how did you only do so little damage-

[buoyant lodge]

i don't think i've ever launched a nuke in my 110 hours of playing the game

[buoyant star]

anyone noticed how german AI get dumber if anschluss didn't happen?

[buoyant lodge]

it is that time of the year gentlemen

[patent thistle]

lol

[patent thistle]

.

[crisp wyvern]

lowkey did the same to Indochina just to get free rubber and more resources

late game resource crisis is horrid

[patent thistle]

yep, i think the italian navy is out for a while

[crisp wyvern]

so bad I had to install a mod that overhauls the amount of resources on the map

[buoyant lodge]

deadass i'm always in a massive coal deficit at the end

[crisp wyvern]

You guys have coal?

[buoyant lodge]

my industry runs at 1/3 of what it could

[crisp wyvern]

I'm still playing on version 1.16.8

[buoyant lodge]

lmfao smart

[crisp wyvern]

So no coal for me

[craggy trail]

Sometimes they do just keep infantry, but usually their tanks modernize first before infantry becomes mechanized

[crisp wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/hetalia-aphitaly-italy-hwsitaly-gif-27066535

hetalia Italy is the closest we have to a personification of how useless Italy was during ww2

[crisp wyvern]

not really, most mods are incompatible because they are made for the recent version but

I refuse to play the latest version

it's trash

[craggy trail]

Subdoctrines 👻

[crisp wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-meme-black-guy-crying-to-playboi-carti-cedrick66-black-guy-crying-gif-27275751

[craggy trail]

Naval headquarters, fleet home bases

Naval Dominance

[sharp sierra]

same

[patent thistle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3610052424&searchtext=coal+farm

[crisp wyvern]

I don't play navy that much anyways

I rather have my troops to learn how to swim and carry huge cannons around on the water than building shitty destroyers

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[patent thistle]

they litterally lost against some refit pre-dreadnoughts-

[crisp wyvern]

Italia moment

[patent thistle]

2 of the kilkis and one brandenburg class

[craggy trail]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3796250/Hearts_of_Iron_IV_Seaplane_Tenders/?curator_clanid=9948323

Steam

Hearts of Iron IV: Seaplane Tenders

Dominate the Pacific Ocean with the Instant Unlock Bonus Seaplane Tenders; adding unit art for three new ships - Japanese, Australian and American seaplane tenders.

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$48.77

[wind meteor]

without using tanks btw

[fair horizon]

chat big paradox doesnt want you to know this but hoi4 navy is a psyop to get people into azur lane

[fair horizon]

even more proof smh

[crisp wyvern]

lowkey, I love hoi4 just for the fact that I feel like national hero leading it's nation to greatness

I love making my civilian population stable and happy

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[fair horizon]

i like making boats

[crisp wyvern]

I love planes

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/akagi-azur-lane-my-beloved-meme-my-beloved-heart-gif-25042513

[fair horizon]

get this new age tech out of my ww2 simulator smh

missiles were never designed to be on boats

boats were never designed to be airfields

return to tradition

return to ships of the line

[crisp wyvern]

we'll eventually reach wolfenstein levels of tech in hoi4

[fair horizon]

wait a minute is that OWB?

[craggy trail]

These models are pretty nice

[craggy trail]

Yes

[patent thistle]

i think the italians found my main fleet

and found out its not a good idea to engage it

[fair horizon]

anime mod spotted

[patent thistle]

road to anime

[patent thistle]

(the lost heavy cruiser is legit just some greek ship i stole and couldnt refit)

[crisp wyvern]

Furino D Rumin

FDR if he was an anime girl

[craggy trail]

Old World Blue's not necessarily needed Navy, but it's still there

[patent thistle]

LEAVE MY BOATS ALONE

[fair horizon]

ngl owb navy kinda sucks

unless you're playing mirelurks

and only for naval invading sanfranciso

[slender kernel]

what do yall think are some of thje best mods? (and what countries)

[distant knoll]

tfr

[fair horizon]

rt56 is pretty good

[slender kernel]

ehhh... i want mods with a little less content

if that makes sense

like

not better turkey+ type of stuff

[distant knoll]

?

its not alot of content

[slender kernel]

like if i open a focus tree it freezes a milisecond

[slender kernel]

ik but its modern day

[fair horizon]

fire rises is lame usa just wins all the time

[slender kernel]

i dont like that type of stuff

[distant knoll]

why

[slender kernel]

idk, i feel like if i play hoi4 i want to play something in the past

[distant knoll]

ok

[sudden thistle]

Empire into the orient

Or whichever one is updated

[slender kernel]

imma check it out

what is it about?

[sudden thistle]

The year 1700

[slender kernel]

ohhhh empire

i played that before

[fair horizon]

EAW is very well made but theres the issue with it...

[slender kernel]

eaw?

ohh

equestria at war

never played though

lowk imma play it

[fair horizon]

yeah me neither but everything ive seen from it is 10/10

[patent thistle]

and there goes the italian navy

thats a loss you cant recover from-

[fair horizon]

where carrier?

[patent thistle]

i just build them now and didnt have time to intergrate them

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

[patent thistle]

only have had an auxillery by that time

[patent thistle]

calm down its now in the fleet i just couldnt put it by the time the battle had started

[fair horizon]

i bet you didnt even go base strike

[patent thistle]

i am late to the carrier thing here. mostly intended to use them as a support until i build the pride here (fleet in being cause i am used to battleships more then carriers)

the age of the dreadnought shall only die when i dont feel like it anymore.-

[fair horizon]

ngl not sure how i feel about fleet in being vs base strike now that i choose my buffs

[patent thistle]

can we atleast all agree that the trade intrediction path sucks for surface warfare?

[fair horizon]

always has

[patent thistle]

lowkey might have to switch the doctrine

forgot i have this guy

@fair horizon this or the other?

[mild musk]

how do we feel about the faction rework in NCNS

[fair horizon]

i went with massed i think

idr

[slender kernel]

hey uhh

didnt equestria at war have hitler somewhere?

[sudden thistle]

That was another mod

It got banned

[slender kernel]

bruh

[distant knoll]

well no

[slender kernel]

then what country should i play

idk my little poney lore

i js wanted to do war crimes with the big h

😢

[distant knoll]

its a mod

its still there

[sudden thistle]

Whenever I looked for it like a year ago it was banned

[distant knoll]

it isnt

i literally played it last month

[sudden thistle]

Ok

[distant knoll]

mankind's valhalla

[inner tide]

Tuff

[fair horizon]

anyone know where the 2% recruitable is? called like irregulars or something like that

[brittle mantle]

Hi there! Are there any mods that actually give achievements?

[fair horizon]

turkey stomping italy isnt impressive smh

should have been byzantines

[patent thistle]

more like stomping the entire axis

[steel summit]

who should i play today?

[molten forge]

Any advice if I play Czech (basic focus tree)

[steel summit]

i did germany n brazil yesterday n the day before that

[brittle cypress]

Like vanilla hoi4 steam achievements?

[steel summit]

defend

[brittle cypress]

Yeah there’s Ironman compatible ones

[molten forge]

What if I wanna expand

[steel summit]

germany is very weak without czech industry

[brittle cypress]

Some map mods, colored buttons, etc

Search Ironman compatible on steam

[steel summit]

u would have to go fascist n it isnt worth it at all, coz uk will guarantee

[molten forge]

Time to join za Germanian civil war

[steel summit]

who should i play today?

[brittle cypress]

As many guns as possible, make sure to do anything you can for manpower

[molten forge]

Greece

[brittle cypress]

Wait

[molten forge]

That would mean going for communism

[brittle cypress]

Basic focus tree?

like the non dlc one?

[molten forge]

Like no dlc that affects czech

[brittle cypress]

Oh

Ok

no idea

Never played it

[molten forge]

The shitty one that allows you to give lands to germany

[brittle cypress]

I only know dlc

[patent thistle]

aw musolini collapsed. wanted to bully them for longer

[fair horizon]

fight the uk too

[patent thistle]

maybe after the axis decided to fall over finally

[molten forge]

The non-dlc has a focus to give Germany lands and become a puppet to it

[brittle cypress]

That’s with dlc

yes

[molten forge]

Dlc-less

[brittle cypress]

With no dlc you have the generic focus tree

what

[molten forge]

What

No

[patent thistle]

also rip my hungarian puppet state

[brittle cypress]

Huh ???

[molten forge]

Does le resistance affect Czech?

[brittle cypress]

I thought you needed death or dishonor

[molten forge]

No?

I only have le resistance and battle for the bospho idk the god damn word

[brittle cypress]

That’s literally the

Features List

Four New Focus Trees: Experience the war from the difficult perspectives of Hungary, Romania, Czechoslovakia, and Yugoslavia.

I’m so confused

That’s the dlc that adds it

Unless they integrated it into basegame and I forgot

Whatever

[fair horizon]

paradox pls i need it now

[molten forge]

That REWORKS the focus trees

Or adds new options for the focus tree

[brittle cypress]

ok send a picture of the focus tree without dlc right now

[molten forge]

Am not even home bro

[brittle cypress]

bruh

[molten forge]

Ima dm you it when am home

@brittle cypress can you show a photo of the focus tree you have for czech

[brittle cypress]

Uh lemme see if I can find one online

[patent thistle]

uk, sure lose as many ships as you physically can

makes it later easier

[molten forge]

I don't even understand navy, I plan to use submarines

[brittle cypress]

This one

Ignore the red

[molten forge]

Looks different in politics

But I will fully confirm soon

[heavy vigil]

until they update it you can be a german axis puppet and go communist

which is kinda fun

[brittle cypress]

What

is this for the new Czech dlc

[heavy vigil]

no

for rn

you can

[fluid dome]

What do i even here

[molten forge]

So rn Czech has unique dlc but later on will have basic?

[heavy vigil]

no

itll get updated

[molten forge]

Alr

[brittle cypress]

Casey with no DLC Czech has basic tree right?

[patent thistle]

crazy how this ship is still floating, havent even refit it fully

[split bane]

It has the tree you have rn since that tree was integrated into the base game

[brittle cypress]

Oh

Ok

So I did forget

[heavy vigil]

isnt it free?

[dry kayak]

i want to do a new ironman run but with Japs, i never played them, any pro tips for that faction?

[patent thistle]

i have a feeling germany is done for, scraping the barrel and almost no more manpower-

[brittle cypress]

I forgot

[heavy vigil]

japan is fun but tricky

youll need to use your resources wisely

[patent thistle]

pump everything into the construction of super heavy battleships totally didnt go wrong irl fr

[dry kayak]

WE NEED BIGGER BATTLESHIPS

[untold sigil]

lol

I am so funny

[heavy vigil]

ships are useless

[dry kayak]

oh god, did you play another game? ahhahah

[patent thistle]

DONT YOU DARE TO INSULT MY NAVY

[untold sigil]

HELLO WHERE IS MEMES CHANNEL

[heavy vigil]

i say as a japan main basically

[untold sigil]

or was there any at all?

I wanna post it somewhere

[fair horizon]

very cringe of you casey

[dry kayak]

no trading cover fleets? no naval supremacy for naval invasions?

[fair horizon]

honestly cant believe you would say that smh

[dry kayak]

i just discovered the spaghetti metal slug

[heavy vigil]

trade cover you do with air

ASW

for naval invasions you do need it

[fair horizon]

casey didnt fall for the azur lane psyop

[heavy vigil]

but thats it

[dry kayak]

"Guns, gore & cannoli" on steam

[heavy vigil]

only naval invasions

which

you only need to do on indonesia

[fair horizon]

planemaxxers smh

we dockyardmaxxing in this discord casey

[dry kayak]

i suppose you invade once indonesia and china then you play only the land battles to the west?

[heavy vigil]

china no

i just land invade

its genuinely just indonesia

and maybe australia/africa if you get to that point

[dry kayak]

so AI doesnt try to invade you?

[heavy vigil]

even against players

[celest zenith]

reddit funnies

[heavy vigil]

just have a few home guards all the pacific islands are useless

genuinely they give no benefit

[dry kayak]

cause when i did the world conquest with italy AI always tried to invade the italian penisula many times

[untold sigil]

posted it on reddit lol

[dry kayak]

i dont get why it shouldnt happen with japan

[warped flint]

is monarchist uk fun

[heavy vigil]

just have port guards

italy sucks cuz your eco sucks and you have a million ports

japan only really has like idk 8

[patent thistle]

can we talk about the classical UK moment in which they have like 300 divs and dont do shit the entire war?

[dry kayak]

Yep, i tried several times before making the great italy

it's like starting with 3yrs of disadvantage from every country

you have horses when other nations have carriers and medium tanks, but winning the game was 100x more satisying hahah

[fair horizon]

what no navy does to a country

[patent thistle]

what a shit navy does to a country*

[dry kayak]

that's why i was a bit surprised of his "useless navy" statement hahah

btw, italy is placed in the middle of mediterrain sorrounded by aggressive AI naval factions like UK and France

[fair horizon]

tbf it was more useful than the german capital ships

[dry kayak]

so it's quite mandatory to spam navy

[fair horizon]

though so were any planes the axis had over the med

[vapid cradle]

i got hte new mod but the navy system just seems just bad, i cant get naval superiority, i cant invade britain

[patent thistle]

i always refit them and do the naming trick for ships gained through the focustree

[dry kayak]

capital ships are useless compare to a big fleet of good cruisers

[fair horizon]

cheating smh

[dry kayak]

nooo, it's that a thing? hahahah

[fair horizon]

me when my 15 inch guns smash through the side of his stupid little tinfoil ships

[dry kayak]

nah, if you eat 58731531 torpedoes

[fair horizon]

ngl capital ships should be way more deadly to smaller ships

its pretty much what they were designed to do

[dry kayak]

capitals in HoI4 are only good to do the naval support from the coast

[fair horizon]

and protect carriers

[dry kayak]

i never produce capitals, i steal them from the enemy and then i keep producing cruisers and destroyers

[fair horizon]

i produce carriers to park them next to other countries and bomb the crap out of their ships in port

[dry kayak]

yep also

btw naval bombers in the fleets are very nasty if you have good screens

[fair horizon]

yeah thats why i use base strike doctrine

i love my flat tops

[dry kayak]

once i did a run with italy and reserved a tech tab only to develop all the carrier stuff ahhahah

[terse skiff]

Carriers are always meta

[dry kayak]

painful

[terse skiff]

Especially now since you can stack so much sortie efficiency

[dry kayak]

i'll launch the game, let's see if i can remember how to play it lol

the coal resource management is painful?

[fair horizon]

i didnt even notice it as australia

so yeah

[dry kayak]

ok, first trip: invade australia

her coal was promised to japan 3000yrs ago

[terse skiff]

As long as usa doesn't embargo you, you're fine

[fringe shell]

yep ts is fuhed up

bro they are neutral🙏 😭

[foggy dune]

guys!!

how do I improve this

[fringe shell]

soi hate this dlc

[dry kayak]

if USA tries i'm gonna bomb Pearl Harbour in 1941

[fringe shell]

russia just removed faction

while there were like 3 countries and joined fuhing aliance with US

i just wanted a achievement

fuh i unpaused

[terse skiff]

Do it, it worked out well for Japan irl

[dry kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/mira004-mira-miraszalma-gif-14997089267692053545

[foggy dune]

guys..?

[dry kayak]

it depends on the purpose

offensive? devensive? AT? AA?

[fringe shell]

this is a real plot twist

[fringe shell]

what are playing?

[foggy dune]

Germany

[fringe shell]

\

ts will do anything

[foggy dune]

Also my dumb sister turned off my pc

Noe i gotta restatt

[fringe shell]

but in '30 use 1 artilerry

[foggy dune]

Ok

The game autosaves

Where are the autosaves found

[fair horizon]

take the shovels off and give it aa

[foggy dune]

Ok

[sudden thistle]

Double AA is crazy

[fringe shell]

aint that bad

[fair horizon]

and then make a division for attacking instead of slapping more expensive stuff on a unit you're probs gonna make 100 of

[eternal palm]

Yea this is ass

[fringe shell]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-meme-testicles-testicular-torsion-jarvis-twist-this-guys-testicles-gif-11491098292183663284

[eternal palm]

Recon does nothing

line AA is mostly unecesssary

and line artillery suck

[foggy dune]

im gonna beat the shih out of my sister, I started before the anschluss

[weary lagoon]

18 infantry, mass assault

[eternal palm]

Dont 💀

[weary lagoon]

boom, you win

[eternal palm]

Mass assault isnt a thing anymore

At least not in the version in which it is good

mass assault sucks now

[fair horizon]

guys will i hate myself if i play nz?

[foggy dune]

Im going insane

[weary lagoon]

i don't feel the difference tho, yet

[eternal palm]

What?
You are literally missing all of the good things

u dont have reinforce rate, u dont have guerilla

its so much weaker now

[fair horizon]

the answer is yes

casey i thought you said NZ was fun

[dry kayak]

arty is not useless.

[sudden thistle]

Casey is Casey

[fair horizon]

bro nz is so crap

[fair horizon]

i think he said he was playing germany, just make tanks at that point

[foggy dune]

isnt it kinda bad tho

[dry kayak]

yep, if you are germany and spam mediums yes

[eternal palm]

It is lol. U have double HP without arty

[fair horizon]

shovels is useless and wastes support equipment

[foggy dune]

ok

[terse skiff]

So did the person compare it with inf + armor templates?

[dry kayak]

it's a cheap boost for inf divisions

[terse skiff]

Not even SPG + mech, just basic tank + inf

[fair horizon]

bro what is nz 😭

[heavy vigil]

i said i like it i didnt say its fun to you

you can core taiwan tho

so thats core pop

[terse skiff]

Something something turn fascist, get mil access with Germany, parachute paris

[heavy vigil]

your formable cores it

[fair horizon]

wait how

[dry kayak]

the guy in the video tested a simple 9/4 on a miscellaneous frontline

[heavy vigil]

also change your occupation law

[fair horizon]

it doesnt say it does

[heavy vigil]

you start with samoa non core

[terse skiff]

And in actual gameplay we just use spgs

[heavy vigil]

it does cuz ive formed it like 5 times before

[terse skiff]

Since they do everything much better than art

[eternal palm]

Light spgs are cheaper and better

[heavy vigil]

probably more actually

[eternal palm]

ARty has no use

[heavy vigil]

its just you dont need taiwan to form it

but it does core the state

[fair horizon]

ah i see

[dry kayak]

require fuel

[heavy vigil]

and taiwan is more core pop than the rest of the formable combined lol

[fair horizon]

what is this crap 😭

[heavy vigil]

make a land facility

theyre good

or air

[fair horizon]

rural region

[eternal palm]

So?

[heavy vigil]

oh yeah first focus is always air

then

either go for frame buffs

or go eco tree

[fair horizon]

why air first? i always go land first

[eternal palm]

its not hard to come by

There's rarely a case where you literally have 0 fuel

[heavy vigil]

cuz you get engine 3

its a good plane

bristol blenheim

[weary lagoon]

actually mb it wasn't the mass assault per se that i like

[heavy vigil]

i mean the plane sucks

but the engine is good

[weary lagoon]

it's the large unit tactics

[eternal palm]

See that makes sense

its good yea

[weary lagoon]

any doctrines + large unit tactics

[eternal palm]

Yea

[fair horizon]

wait does nz get 6 research slots?

[heavy vigil]

also you get 116 unrelated tactical bombers

which is nice if youre somehow fighting no air ai

[fair horizon]

i are confuse

[heavy vigil]

you get 6 after being independent yeah

[fair horizon]

how does an air facility get me level 3 engine?

[heavy vigil]

it doesnt

you get that from your first air focus

70 days into the game

you have that design available

no need to research anything

[fair horizon]

wait thats busted lmao

[heavy vigil]

you just get it

[dry kayak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBIGQIZ-gM

[heavy vigil]

me when i learn to read

[foggy dune]

guys concentrated industry or dispersed for germany

[heavy vigil]

like imo nzl is just a better australia

[fair horizon]

no

[heavy vigil]

it isnt perfect, it isnt OP

[fair horizon]

but also mabye

[heavy vigil]

but more potential core pop, more research

eco similar enough

no debuffs

[fair horizon]

does this get me my formable?

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[sudden thistle]

Conc

[heavy vigil]

i mean

you have the formable decision from day 1

that just lets you get land easier

[fair horizon]

right but i cant really fight the usa for hawaii

[arctic nest]

line arty is perfect

[heavy vigil]

ai always accepts brw

[arctic nest]

@light nova will agree

[fair horizon]

beautiful

[heavy vigil]

theyre good

[dry kayak]

it's literally a boost: more offensive damage and less casualities received

[foggy dune]

is it fine if I did dispersed?

[heavy vigil]

they have armor 2 and CL gun 2

[fair horizon]

based af

[heavy vigil]

which you can exploit as tech

navy sucks compared to eco/air

but its like fine

[dry kayak]

as i've read it seems that in earlier version of the game arty was very nerfed

[heavy vigil]

oh this is funny btw

because the planes it gives are the british starting bristol blenheims

[arctic nest]

crime

[heavy vigil]

which are 1 bomb bay and engine 2 iirx

iirc*

maybe 2 bomb bays

but it still gives you the unrelated design

[fair horizon]

i will play a nz game

but for rn i want to play australia so

i had ideas

[dry kayak]

me invading it

LOL

[foggy dune]

by 1937 I have checoslovakia and austria and 138 factories, is that good?

[fair horizon]

MORE

[foggy dune]

poland nexxt

[dry kayak]

138 factories? daaang

try with italy: half factories, 2 mules and a battleship ahhahah

[foggy dune]

I tried, gave up a year into the game

[dry kayak]

i understand, it took me some runs to make a world conquest, it's very hard

buyt nuking los angeles was worth the achievement ahahhaha

[sly elm]

boutta call in the calvary

[reef blaze]

i need a pron mods for hoi4

give me someone pls

[tulip thorn]

What