hoi4-general

[sudden thistle]

as a pure blooded american with big mac's in my veins is support this statemtn

[hollow shoal]

i love hoi4 so much

[toxic cypress]

blasting this rn

[hollow shoal]

iran joined axis

idk if thats good for us

[toxic cypress]

ITS FREEDOM TIME

[hollow shoal]

or ass

THEY ADVANCIN

MOTHER OF PEARL

THE RUSSIANS ARE ADVANCIN

what am i supposed to do in this situation

do i just send my 250k manpower on field 3 lines into the soviets

js throw em at them

[fair horizon]

chat i get a fleet now

[toxic cypress]

peak

[rapid jay]

https://snapchat.com/t/5qiPce4y

Join

Group

[hollow shoal]

chat

i might have to scrape the barrel.

[fair horizon]

do it

[pseudo raven]

because of complicity?

[fair horizon]

cutie patootie

[hollow shoal]

no bc i conquer

and maybe complicity too

this is the state im in

do i js launch an all out attack

[pseudo raven]

map is your colour good

[fair horizon]

not with zero manpower

[pseudo raven]

it's already launched

[hollow shoal]

ye but its getting colored red

[pseudo raven]

and bad news

[hollow shoal]

it isnt im at 2 lines

on the arrows

[pseudo raven]

get rady for a new run

redy*

[hollow shoal]

Im close to scraping the barrel bro😭

[pseudo raven]

f

feady*

xD

[toxic cypress]

its ready

[hollow shoal]

do i just launch the 3 arrow attack n scrape the barrel

[pseudo raven]

brain not braining GG

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/murica-merica-america-usa-us-gif-4163007710547964960

[hollow shoal]

lol

[pseudo raven]

stop all attacks

and wait for manpower to fill up

u can see how much do u need

here

not only equipment

[hollow shoal]

its not doing that its gaining 2k and losing it

[pseudo raven]

because it is instantly refiling divisions

[lean walrus]

britain has lost 1.3m to the italians - that's embaressing

[hollow shoal]

ye ik

[pseudo raven]

day of pride for Italian ai

[fair horizon]

it took austria beating france and italy for them to lose in mine, britian is kinda sucking recently

[toxic cypress]

its a party in the usa baby

[fair horizon]

USA USA USA

[toxic cypress]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6etwirSInfuJrSOlogS6Sh?si=ea7429cdfd9849be

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/george-washington-delaware-delaware-double-monument-mythos-alexkansas-gif-24137712

[pseudo raven]

at navy control especialy

[toxic cypress]

i gave the ai smart ai

so i hope they better

[steel zephyr]

colours oughta be switched

[toxic cypress]

@sudden thistle is this actually smt that matters

[pseudo raven]

https://open.spotify.com/track/20I8RduZC2PWMWTDCZuuAN?si=5c57ab5e829540f2

[toxic cypress]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2tudvzsrR56uom6smgOcSf?si=b21f912dedc842cb

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/akagi-azur-lane-my-beloved-meme-my-beloved-heart-gif-25042513

BASE STRIKE BEST DOCTRINE

CARRIER SUPREMACY

[toxic cypress]

yall know where im goin

[toxic cypress]

SUPREME FIREPOWER FOREVER

https://tenor.com/view/night-at-the-museum-gif-6172953085158329531

[hollow shoal]

i got oblitirated by the ussr there goes the romania run

[fair horizon]

AINT THAT A GROUND DOCTRINE? WE PLAYIN NAVY IN THIS

[hollow shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/chad-chad-knight-nobleknightadventures-noble-knight-chad-knight-walk-gif-15891693334941513276

[weary estuary]

Sweet holy industrial projects

[toxic cypress]

why not both

[warped flint]

hmmmmm

[weary estuary]

Give me all the coal

All of it

[fair horizon]

because i spent all my build slots on dockyards

[toxic cypress]

yummers

[frank estuary]

Nice

[toxic cypress]

all i see is manifest destiny

[stark pebble]

if i was in charge of conducting D-Day

[toxic cypress]

i know you know we all know

[lean walrus]

My strike force was in LA when it should have been in North Africa, my head's gone

[weary estuary]

Should I use console commands to reform the Ottoman Empire fellas

My Germany needs more allies

[toxic cypress]

gon go a lil off historical just for this

[lean walrus]

at war with China for reasons unknown

[marble patio]

i had a dream last night that i was doing kaiser germany run and i got to the part where u do the junta and i was like "thank god my trained units are ready to deploy" and they had like scrap metal armour and miniguns

they looked like they were in t-51b

like rusty t-51b

[lean walrus]

no idea what focus they did to declare war on the allies

[marble patio]

and i was like "phew good thing i researched the unintelligable armor"

[lean walrus]

but why

[marble patio]

like it sounded like i thought it was a normal occurance

and they were on the map with the other normal units

i could like zoom in and out

it was a very realistic dream

[pseudo raven]

Blessed line in sweden democracy war cabinet path

[marble patio]

yo man got any tips for non aligned germany run

i wanna get the kaiser achievement

but i always get to berlin and then my frontlines die

[pseudo raven]

kaiser germany?

[marble patio]

like the

bring back kaiser

and then kill mussolini

[dusky burrow]

Joined the Axis?

[pseudo raven]

so u struggle with civil war?

[marble patio]

yea

[lean walrus]

nope

stll united front

[marble patio]

it goes good at first but my units get used up taking berlin and then i lose all my ground

[pseudo raven]

find kaiser germany vid on yt i am too lazy to answer nr sorry

[dusky burrow]

Huh

[pseudo raven]

this civ war is prety short

[marble patio]

bro i tried but he said all this shit about tank divisions and manpower and i cant be bothered

im a casual player man i dont think past 1940

[pseudo raven]

than just sort your divisions all normal divisions to one general, divisions which just hold front

than push south with normal divisions

[vital cove]

if you really wanna make it braindead, you can justify on Poland manually in game start, conquer them, and only after that start the civil war. then don't have troops on Poland, and you can just battle plan the other side while half their troops conquer irrelevant Poland

[pseudo raven]

meanwhile using airplanes for green air atleast

[marble patio]

maybe

i might just organize my lines better

and change the unit templates

[pseudo raven]

no need in this

[marble patio]

for some of them 100%

the units u get at the start of the junta suck ass

they cant hold lines for shit

[pseudo raven]

they will be deleted after civ war

[marble patio]

ur better dismantling them and using the manpower and equipment

[marble patio]

still they suck

[pseudo raven]

too long u will be caped by ai

[marble patio]

ig

[toxic cypress]

yeaaaah

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/murica-merica-america-usa-us-gif-4163007710547964960

[pseudo raven]

so u get this divs on civ war time

they cant be changed

and deleted

and u have basic inf

give inf plan to capture all of south

crap divs just sty on frontline without push

for holding divs get general with defens stat

for normal divs attacking stat

than batleplan south

braindead strat in its finest

guess what

they done fine

[pseudo raven]

there is nothing complex

[toxic cypress]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6WdcvzQADmrL8nucimUV6r?si=70295f2a8ccf4614

cant wait for nukes

i have realistic nuke mod and i gave germany and the uk tech and core bonuses

[pseudo raven]

than attack from south to north with good infantry

just replace your planes over regions where infantry fights

and thats it

[real galleon]

Hello guys its me or the germany AI is broken?, I played some games and they cant even push to belarus

[pseudo raven]

after taking berlin battle plan all front

their divisions are just empty in some tiles

manualy send divisions to atack this tiles

[toxic cypress]

isnt it beautiful

[warped flint]

bro

[toxic cypress]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2tudvzsrR56uom6smgOcSf?si=4c863ce65a8148ed

[warped flint]

I am going to take a break from this game for a few days

yugoslavia isnt even fascist

[toxic cypress]

they need freedom

you can feel them get freer already

[pseudo raven]

Why TNO omsk is so popular?

[safe wing]

because its edgy

[pseudo raven]

I heard of some grate tribunal or court

Should I try this mod?

[safe wing]

1 no

2 Omsk is basically we are willing to start nuclear war to defeat Germany

its a bad mod

[pseudo raven]

Mechanical side bad or just content and topics in it?

I am not acknowledged about timeline of this mod

[toxic cypress]

fools

[safe wing]

Both

[toxic cypress]

they spelt it wrong

https://open.spotify.com/track/1JO1xLtVc8mWhIoE3YaCL0?si=bb53028e87eb40a6

[wraith mauve]

Is Sweden more fun fascist or non aligned

???

[tulip thorn]

Both are mid

[toxic cypress]

https://open.spotify.com/track/63T7DJ1AFDD6Bn8VzG6JE8?si=55daf8764cb2423e

[tulip thorn]

Forgot how much I love this song

[toxic cypress]

its perfect to blast for us playthrough

[tulip thorn]

Perfect for a tyrant playthrough

[tulip thorn]

Enclave

One of those guys destroyed my power armor and made me waste all my ammo

[toxic cypress]

i aint a big fan of enclave

but they got aura

https://tenor.com/view/enclave-fallout-propaganda-76-gif-1832661275352466615

save your future today join the enclave

[tulip thorn]

Cant deny that

I wanted to take their power armor

But didnt have the space to take it with me

[toxic cypress]

the enclave has too much aura to hate

[toxic cypress]

they started adding enclave npcs to fallout 4

they keep adding stuff to fallout4

im waiting for them to just drop a massive enclave dlc

thats like the enclave having a giant base in the east coast

they keep avoiding fallout 5

so my guess is they gon work on 4 and 76

[tulip thorn]

It was an ambush during the final part of the quest where you locate the old missing brotherhood of steel patrol

[toxic cypress]

🤷‍♂️ i just wanna see more enclave shit

in 76 we learn enclave still has pockets

boston is near new york too so

[tulip thorn]

Same tbh

[toxic cypress]

aye?

cmon bethesda give us smt

give us a new region

[tulip thorn]

I want denver tbh

Not biased or anything

[toxic cypress]

i really wanna see new york cause fallout is in essense americana

and the pinnacle of americana is new york

[tulip thorn]

Didnt they say that new york doesnt exist anymore

Or am I remembering wrong

[toxic cypress]

🤷‍♂️ still could be used as a location for giant enclave pocket

can you imagine a dlc that added a whole new new york aesthetic enclave base

[polar path]

Well prolly like what happened to Washington DC it's mostly a crater but the outskirts would be there

[tulip thorn]

That would be so tuff

[toxic cypress]

i really want it

the pinnacle of americana with the final strongest enclave base

[tulip thorn]

Yeah the power armor is still there

[toxic cypress]

ashes

😭

[tulip thorn]

Might have got a crit with a lazer gun

[calm delta]

Not even hoi4 lol

[toxic cypress]

silencio

[tulip thorn]

Shhhhh

[calm delta]

Nein

I just found it funny

[tulip thorn]

Some would prefer fallout in general over ponies

and most would prefer both or neither in offtopic

[steel zephyr]

uh oh

[calm delta]

People join my hoi4 game

[undone grotto]

shalom goys

[coral gorge]

they r doing bit too well

the Soviets would have died if not for my chinese production power

[heavy vigil]

you should have an ai nation like china in ahist if they dont have natural enemies focus on selling shit on the market / lend lease to losing faction

thatd be fun

[opal dust]

Are yall talking about fallout

[dusky burrow]

china making bank

are the singlehandedly keeping the world balanced?

well not singlehandedly but you know what I mean

[heavy vigil]

sometimes its the US

rarely its the USSR

[dusky burrow]

btw can i share something controversial

[heavy vigil]

possibly

[simple vine]

any good space marine build for ruining mp lobby's

[opal nymph]

Space marines arent good

[simple vine]

then why are they banned in mp

[winged field]

They are only good for the early game because later you can' just pierce them with better AA. But are there really lobbies still banning them?

Cuz they won't really have a bigger impact for the game anyway.

[simple vine]

huh so what would be a solid template that is also cheap

had some anti air, field hospital and recon recommendations but there is also so much more to pick from

[surreal mist]

spacemarine definition in mp is more nuanced. Most interpretations is leg inf + tank. They ban that because its one of the most effective ways to make a tank div (mountaineer + tank)

[simple vine]

so mountenairs plus tanks should do the job for mid to late game?

in my case of picking mediocer nations

ridiculous i don't understand anything of this game also the outdated yt videos i get on my fyp ain''t helping either

[winged field]

That's your best chance just keep in mind sooner or later u will get pierced most of the time anyway

[steep forge]

What should I do when it says low supply’s in my Soviet theater

[winged field]

Don't even watch the new ones. Half of those guys put line artillery in their template 😆

[winged field]

Do you have supply hubs?

[steep forge]

Yes I’m user

Ussr*

[winged field]

Click on that icon then shift+ click on the hubs that are the closest to red regions

It will automatically upgrade railways to that region. Or just try to motorize more hubs

[steep forge]

The supply icon?

[winged field]

You don't need to upgrade to lvl 5 . Lvl 3 should be enough

[winged field]

Yeah that tiny one and then shift click on the hubs near red zones

Or you can just manually upgrade railways

And motorize the hubs to draw more supplies

[steep forge]

Ok Ï did it to double truck now Whay

What

[winged field]

Oh also while you are still in that supply hubs icon click on supply hub and the icon above it in middle upgrades the railways to that supply hub

Only use double motorization if it's still not drawing max supplies

One is usually enough

[naive obsidian]

can you imagine a free dlc?

[steep forge]

Yeah I still have the supply problem

Even with double moter and spam clicking the upgrade bottleneck thing Ï have a supply problem

[winged field]

You might need to build a new supply hub then. Just make sure you grab that pp decisions to get boost for construction

[steep forge]

What

[steep forge]

Wait how do I check the time for supply hub to build

[winged field]

Just start construction and it will say

[steep forge]

This is all it shows

[winged field]

In normal construction menu. Where you build factoriees and etc

And hover your mouse over that progression line

[steep forge]

Still shows nothing

It went to low and back to very low

[steep forge]

It still didn’t build even after the end date came

[winged field]

It will take time to build up. It's the most expensive construction from all

[steep forge]

Why is it still not working

[winged field]

If you only have some spots without supplies it's not really that big of an issue

[winged field]

It's in construction

[steep forge]

Yeah but it showed in the area it would be finished already

[winged field]

If it was finished it wouldn't have those 2 hammer icons

[steep forge]

Why isn’t it building then

[winged field]

It is 😭

[steep forge]

How do you know

[winged field]

Nvm it's not actually building cuz it's at bottom of your production put it up

[steep forge]

It’s been at the top

[winged field]

Just wait for it to finish then

[steep forge]

Is there anyway to stop all wars

[winged field]

By wining or losing.

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-berlin-ussr-cccp-russia-gif-10439551540140366942

[magic cliff]

hey buddy wanna play hoi 4 MP with me and some other dudes

we're looking for a noob to teach

[steep forge]

I need help

[magic cliff]

wsp

what do you need help with

[steep forge]

Everything

lol

[magic cliff]

I can help you

[plain isle]

i was carrying the germans here as romania, this is only my third time playing though

[steep forge]

Do I join you or smth?

[magic cliff]

add me ill make a GC

[steep forge]

I don’t have mic

[dusky burrow]

Yeah hoi4 tends to reward early conquests as long as you have enough manpower and equipment

[steep forge]

Only my iPad mic works

[magic cliff]

thats fine

[plain isle]

i didnt have either there💔

[magic cliff]

u can type or talk with that

[steep forge]

Kk

[plain isle]

11k manpower

[steep forge]

I sent friend request

[dusky burrow]

even if you can fulfill like 90% of garrison requirements and can maintain that you should be fine

[plain isle]

bet

[toxic cypress]

battleships v carriers

which shld i get

[dusky burrow]

I think battleships would be better here but I'd have to check

[violet quartz]

map painting my beloved

[toxic cypress]

Im going battleships

i checked carrier and its kinda ass

[opal nymph]

Bruh moment.

Carriers totally weren't known for changing naval warfare or anything. Guess the buffs for that path suck sadly

[toxic cypress]

its all range

which is useless

cause once i get nuclear engines

[opal nymph]

That is in fact quite useless

[toxic cypress]

its useless

[opal nymph]

Couldn't even give sorite efficiency or extra naval damage from carrier planes

Or less night penalty

[toxic cypress]

i also gave the uk cores in all of its african colonies and a tech bonus (one tech ahead for everything)

so realistically

its pretty cooked

@opal nymph i just checked its all cooked

i buffed germany too much they got basic nuclear tech

i gave em hre cores and a tech research bonus

and now the ai somehow almost got nukes

[opal nymph]

1940 tech is the only thing that limits nukes

Once you have it, you have nukes in 2-3 years

Less than perhaps

[toxic cypress]

its 1941

[toxic cypress]

i got smart ai and realistic nukes

[digital aurora]

I love it when you have enough divisons to do full on encirclements and exploitations of breakthroughs

[wary sparrow]

RAHHHH

my barbarossa gonna be hell

[coral gorge]

even then, it doesn't have to be hell for you

never falter

AI is always AI

[kind vale]

Im going to make the best bombers as japan then bomb every

Single

Country

[wary sparrow]

what did guatamala do to bro

[kind vale]

They existed

[finite plume]

Y'all did I go a bit too overboard with the provinces

[wary sparrow]

WHY DOES THE SOVIETS HAVE A 4 TIMES LARGER AIRFROCE RAHHH

[wary sparrow]

where is this

[kind vale]

What is this

[finite plume]

Why is this

🥀 🥀

[kind vale]

Who is this

[finite plume]

My wrist hurts from makin' all of them

[warped flint]

what one should I do

Democracy, Fascist, Monarchist

[coral gorge]

it just means their air isn't good

just number

beat them

[pale flare]

Monarchist

[green lodge]

Yo liva

[dusky burrow]

Nah, they have 50 medium tank divisions, it's so gemranyover

Oh hello there

[green lodge]

Slavic Union .. 5th restart I think 🥀

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

[green lodge]

I've taken over most of eastern europe

[dusky burrow]

Problem is that you have no manpower again?

[green lodge]

Yugo, Romania, Czech

[green lodge]

No 340k

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

[green lodge]

But do I just wait for soviet war now ?

Or go for germania

[dusky burrow]

What time is it?

[green lodge]

1937

[dusky burrow]

Also how are the Allies doing

Oh wow that's unusually quick

[green lodge]

Yeah I use instant wargoals

[dusky burrow]

How many divisions do you have btw

[green lodge]

50

[dusky burrow]

You can gamble

It's possible to take Germany down right now

[green lodge]

So for infantry, I use 9 men 38 divs

2 mountaineers

10 artillery

I should probably build light SPGs right ?

[lilac glen]

Ngl

Battle width is more confusing than the Navy

[green lodge]

Nah i have like 60 ships from annexing country and I have no clue what they're doing 🥀

[winter fulcrum]

What do yall think of my hoi4 run rn?

Its 1940

[green lodge]

What country is bro ?🥀

[winter fulcrum]

Imperial japan

My pc discord isnt working

[green lodge]

Oh why didn't you go west

Why'd you go north 🥀

Yum yum yum raj 🥀

[winter fulcrum]

Bc i had the chance, ussr is in civil war and war with germany

[coral gorge]

will be west once they reach Europe

[winter fulcrum]

But then germ money got invaded by the allies

[green lodge]

How good is railway gun ?

Should build in 37 ?

[coral gorge]

very funni vs forts

though not very useful in particular

[pale flare]

No

[toxic cypress]

erm

idk if i wanna betray my faction anymore

[heavy vigil]

axis would lose

theyre up against finland

[toxic cypress]

😭

[heavy vigil]

theyre allied with turkiye too? GG

[toxic cypress]

eitherway i buffed my allies a shit ton

so idk if i can even fight em

i think germany is close to getting a nuke

[green lodge]

Uh

What the

2 Italian puppets

[toxic cypress]

maybe ima push invading germany to 1950s

[inland falcon]

yugoslavia 🔥

[inland falcon]

im ending it all

[toxic cypress]

😭

[green lodge]

Uh yeah 1.2m manpower before Slavic Union sure

.. uhh switzerland took a few months to kill but now I can encircle germany and eat their carcass

Should probably train a few 40 divs before that

Uh should I take out france, spain and portugal or Germany first 🥀

Question

[tranquil lion]

How is this for an infantry template?

Is 20.4 combat width acceptable?

[magic aspen]

HAHAHA I have finally done something I can be happy with in this damn game

[steep forge]

How do I defend my country from air raids

[magic aspen]

increase air control, or use intercept missions

[steep forge]

How do I get air control

[lone sail]

Any tips for invading china? My naval invasions and offensives are usually destroyed

What template should I use

[magic aspen]

assign your air wings to air superiority

[lone sail]

What else

[worn hollow]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExODUwOGVmYnNhYW56aTdrbW5nZ3F5bnBqM3d2emZ0dm9zZnIyZHhwZiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/mwkVQupWZ74isvDvWE/giphy.gif

[shrewd scaffold]

Bro what tf is happening in your game. You bet the ally’s and the first thing you do is puppet Brittany? You attacked Italy but didn’t even bother to attack the Balkan’s or the Middle East? AND TURKEY AND FINLAND ARE IN AN ALLIANCE
Like at that point watch a hoi4 run of a decent player playing “historical” Germany and you’ll have more fun playing that style of game.

You attacked Italy but kept Italian east Africa? And puppeted or invited Siam to your faction?
And Eritrea got independence??

Like what the hell

[tulip thorn]

This has got to be either a joke, or ragebait. Maybe both.

[tulip thorn]

anthill

[toxic cypress]

i buffed the shit outa the uk and germany

like

alot

germany is like 80% to a nuke

i only have one puppet

and its china

[shrewd scaffold]

Brittany?

(West France)

And Yemen joined your faction?

[split bane]

I NEED the context for this

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/context-context-hat-i-require-context-soyjak-wojak-gif-11496174374422496290

[split bane]

Me:

[toxic cypress]

its not mine

i just joined

so i could get free shit

i got south america by joining em

i also got like 400 chinese troops on the russian border by spamming units from china

so its not like i think ima lose

[steep forge]

How do I do a naval raid

[magic aspen]

turns out Britain is a bit of a cakewalk if you can land your forces

[sly sluice]

why tf is playing as poland so goddamn hard?

[magic aspen]

they are small and have much land wanted by big boys

[sly sluice]

yeah but the hasburg pretty much gets you chseckslovakia

also

they have quite the huge devolopment potential in their focus tree

[magic aspen]

I haven't really played as them so I don't know much, I was just making a guess lol

[marsh ravine]

are you building mils early enough? are you making the correct divs? have you produced enough equipment?

[sly sluice]

i don't really use militia in my defense

[rough oracle]

are there way to make the Baltics ai do the Soviet puppet path instead of independent communism?

[marsh ravine]

you dont need militia?

just infantry will do

but like what are you making

just infantry

also air? tanks?

if so dont

[sly sluice]

oh well i play kinda defensively so 20 width infantry with engeneer logitics support artillery and support AA

[marsh ravine]

should be fine?

[sly sluice]

for air i use moslty anti air

[marsh ravine]

yeh dont bother with planes

when do you start with mils?

like building them

[sly sluice]

i pretty much get them of the focus. building mils is painfully slow with poland

[marsh ravine]

BUILD THEM

from day1

[sly sluice]

you don't really have the time

[marsh ravine]

or at the latest

jan 1937

[marsh ravine]

yes you do.

thats why you are not winning

you dont have equipment

[green lodge]

Would you recommend annexing turkey or puppet 🥀
I'm poland

[sly sluice]

i did when they steamrolled me

[marsh ravine]

not enough

if you arent building mils

i know for a fact you do not have enough deployed

[sly sluice]

every div was full wdym not enough?

[marsh ravine]

ie a lack of equipment

[marsh ravine]

not enough divs

you didnt have enough divs cos a) manpower b) ic

ic is fixed by building mils early

[sly sluice]

bro im not the ussr i can't just pump out units i don't have the manpower for that

[marsh ravine]

manpower is fixed by going desperate defense

[marsh ravine]

how much manpower did you have

left over

[sly sluice]

idk i didn't looked at it but at the start of the war i had like 200K mens in division or smthing like that and 150k free mp ig

[marsh ravine]

150k free?

guh

deploy them

[magic aspen]

holy moly

[marsh ravine]

you can always mobilise once at war to deal with casulties

but you need to fill width everywhere

[magic aspen]

you know it's a good peace deal when it lags out for like 10 seconds

[marsh ravine]

you are not doing that with 200k manpower

[sly sluice]

can't. i've already tried. if i do the cas is just gonna kill em all. meaning i either need more AA which is rough considering i've been building aa defense for most of the game...

[marsh ravine]

how many divs do you have a tile actually

that probably explains stuff

[magic aspen]

I just capitulated Britain as Germany in 1941 lmao

[sly sluice]

idk around 2/3 maybe 4

[marsh ravine]

id have 4 as a minimum

shorten your front so you can do that and deploy more

cas is op yes

but they need 3x the cas they did pre dlc

and aa does kill their cas

so if you can cycle

(able to cos more divs per tile)

you will hold for longer

if not indefinitely

[sly sluice]

hummm... shoretening the poland front is not easy... i can't push them so i have to retreat and the soviets are not gonna help on that

[marsh ravine]

also if you want go like 3? or 4 on aa and do 1 line aa as well

[marsh ravine]

you are holding bohemia right?

give it up

wayy too long a front

you can probably hold at least half of slovakia

but bohemia is difficult to hold im guessing

off of how much you have deployed

[sly sluice]

nope. the ai was too stupid and made a big unit ball right before i got bohemia

[marsh ravine]

?

[sly sluice]

so it went away

[coral gorge]

hmm just ditch engineers next time

no logistics either

cost too much

not worth it

[sly sluice]

be fr

[marsh ravine]

oh new dlc u can still be a little rat with your divs?

[coral gorge]

more inf gives more stats than engineers

[marsh ravine]

nice

i havent played much of new dlc sp so idk how ratty u can be with div templates

[sly sluice]

you're either trolling. a noob. or blind.

[coral gorge]

engineers are very much useless for Poland until they defend vs Soviets

hmm

[marsh ravine]

hes v good at the game

id listen to shep

[coral gorge]

do you wnt me to get my role back?

[marsh ravine]

sheep

sheep>me

[coral gorge]

engineers cost 2.3 of infntry bttlions

but give less stats during eaaarly-mid gme

sry my a key is broken

[sly sluice]

well he might be but ditching engeneer is like ditching 20% of my defense

[marsh ravine]

ditching engineer also means more inf

[coral gorge]

yeah nd more inf give you more def + atk too

and more org

more HP

tbh more org is the most importnt here

do you not hve ny DLC ?

I can do a game to demonstrate the gap between us

[sly sluice]

well yeah but an infanrty without engeneer also means its gonna lose health faster.

[marsh ravine]

no?

cos u can then put more battalions in the inf

[coral gorge]

more inf will ctully hold better for Polnd yeh

[marsh ravine]

so you have more of everything

[marsh ravine]

howd u break it 😭

[coral gorge]

I think dust got in somehow

[marsh ravine]

😭

[coral gorge]

membrne keybord

[sly sluice]

what i mean by that is. with engeneer i don't lose too many mp. without it my death count goes to the moon

[coral gorge]

sth sth

you lose less if you just ditch engineer nd hve more inf divisions in total

[marsh ravine]

just put more infantry in the divs?

[coral gorge]

since it boosts up the HP the quickiest

and you get the same total defense nywy

since 1 engi = 2.3 inf

[sly sluice]

what about fighting space?

[coral gorge]

width?

[marsh ravine]

you can go overwidth

20w alr isnt perfect

[sly sluice]

well the 2 are connected

[coral gorge]

lol unless you build mil day 1, I don't see you hving enough inf in the first place

not you

do u not hve any DLC?

I can do a game to demonstrate, tho not rn

cuz I need to mke dinner

[sly sluice]

huh... i didn't and i had inf materials all the way throught the end of the war...

[marsh ravine]

dinner is fake

[marsh ravine]

but you didnt have enough inf

200k is not enough

[sly sluice]

i have all of em

[marsh ravine]

the divs you had were equipped yes

[sly sluice]

i was talking about inf eq

[marsh ravine]

but you did not have enough divs deployed

[marsh ravine]

well its related to divs

[coral gorge]

by the end of war, you meant by when you struggled?

sry, but my end of war means Berlin

[marsh ravine]

you had "enough" inf equipment cos you only had 200k deployed

[coral gorge]

but is ok, Habsburg Polen yes?

is ok,

I will send you savegme l8ter

[sly sluice]

well firsot of all. my puppet did no shit. and i misstimed my focus so i annexed it after the war started which did't help. and when i finally got them they capituled almost at the same time which pretty much gave open space for the reich to march in the south for a while

[coral gorge]

can u just not call them into the war?

[marsh ravine]

id leave the puppet there then

and not call in

[sly sluice]

the reich attacks them not you

[marsh ravine]

oh

[coral gorge]

whos your puppet?

Hungary?

[marsh ravine]

do you not get czechs as puppet?

[sly sluice]

chekoslovakia. the reich declared and then only i finished my focus to annex them

[coral gorge]

ah, so you integrted them late

hmmm

[sly sluice]

yep

[coral gorge]

well that's something to improve on then

but w/e the c8se, I will send you a s8veg@me l8ter

hmm need to fix the aaaaaaaaaaaa key

[sly sluice]

i mean i kinda got messed up caus the anchluss hapenned way too soon

[coral gorge]

[marsh ravine]

when did it happen

[sly sluice]

i'd say like december 1937

[marsh ravine]

i tihnk ive seen that happen

[sly sluice]

yeah i've seen it once or twice but that on my first poland playtrhough messed with my mind

[marsh ravine]

well js build mils day1

id see what changes

[coral gorge]

well then just repeat it couple of times then I guess you will get through this

[marsh ravine]

id think u get alot more

cos from what u said earlier i think you said u made 0 mils?

like built 0

only got them from focus

[sly sluice]

yeah. idk how but build mils and prepare my AA at the same time. i just don't have the time for that. and don't bother trying to outproduce 1939 german air

[marsh ravine]

dont build state aa

doesnt matter

at all

fake

[coral gorge]

it doesn't contribute in combat

[marsh ravine]

build the equipment aa

not the state aa

[coral gorge]

and as long as there is land combat, AI won't logistrike you

[marsh ravine]

js day1 mils

[sly sluice]

what does state AA really do?

[marsh ravine]

bombing?

so logistrike

[coral gorge]

resist bombing vs buildings

only Soviets would ever bomb building specificlly over troops

[sly sluice]

so it only affects CAS and strategic bombing?

[coral gorge]

it only ffects CAS while they bomb railways/truck/train - so logistic strike

it does not ffect CAS bombing troops in lnd combt

[sly sluice]

bruh

how do i shoot those damn fighters then? can i at the very least?

cause it doesn't feel like aa equipment would do that unless a fight is happening and even then i see CAS getting shot but not fighters

[coral gorge]

If you build fighters then yes

[sly sluice]

honestly

[coral gorge]

But otherwise just

Ignore it

[marsh ravine]

ignore the fighters right?

yeh

[coral gorge]

Focus on what actually helps most - more units

So you can hold

[marsh ravine]

#ifyoucantbeatitpretenditdoesntexist

[coral gorge]

1938 war leaves you too little time for a good airforce

[sly sluice]

alright so i can just be on my way let air superiority be under enemy control and be fine if i've prepared enough AA?

[marsh ravine]

yes

support aa

1 line aa IF NEEDED

[coral gorge]

yeah, because you won’t produce enough to contest anyway

And your land force is already dying

So might as well not waste time on makinmg a weak airforce

[marsh ravine]

worst thing to do is invest in an airforce that will die

[sly sluice]

the goal i usually tend to go with is just get rid of their man power

[marsh ravine]

its like pouring your life savings into a well

[raw shale]

are the any mods that take place in the russian civil war?

[steep forge]

Why isn’t my army going when I do a naval invasion

[marsh ravine]

supremacy

convoys

there u go

or you are not at war with whoever you are fighting

[raw shale]

make sure to assign them to the plan

maybe uve reached the naval invasion cap

[marsh ravine]

oh i see ur vid in ask for help

they need to plan

it does say that

0/58? days or whatever it says

60?

idk i cant read

[sly sluice]

or your game crashed

[marsh ravine]

i feel like theyd notice that eventually 😭

[sly sluice]

naaahhh👀

[marsh ravine]

(i mentioned that cos ive genuinely seen someone js nto realise they r not at war with someone when trying to naval invade something)

[sly sluice]

which support is complementary to artillery again? is it recon? idk anymore

[marsh ravine]

dont bother

too expensive

arty aa

[coral gorge]

Tbh best defense for Habsburg Polen is probably still lotta 6/0 with support arty and support aa

[marsh ravine]

would bricks not work better?

or too risk of reinforce meme

/dont fill width

[coral gorge]

Most players can rarely brick AI GER with just inf now

Cuz AIFC

And they have tanks

You can likely only brick them over Sudeten forts

Which is the only place engineers actually matter for Polen lmao

[marsh ravine]

😭

[sly sluice]

tf

[tranquil lion]

How can I make sure the Benelux countries accept this?

I want to try it with the Netherlands.

[sly sluice]

BRO

wtf?

reich declares on me more then half his troops are in koningsbreg

[tranquil lion]

Is this okay for heavy fighters?

[brittle cypress]

as long as one of your fighters costs less than 3x their fighter you should be outtrading them

assuming that ratio holds

[heavy vigil]

uk ai does like

double armor plate improved with range module + hmgs

as spitfire, when they have the tech

like 4x hmgs

if no hmg they do 4x lmg

[tranquil lion]

Got way better 💀

Turns out I had a few shitty old planes fighting with my heavy fighters.

[heavy vigil]

get more fighters

[tranquil lion]

Working on it

[heavy vigil]

your detection sucks

[tranquil lion]

Also working on radar

How is this for a design?

[heavy vigil]

no

terrible

[tranquil lion]

^^^ Worst kind of feedback btw

[heavy vigil]

its gen chat i can give unhelpful advice here smh

also i was looking for HF designs

[tranquil lion]

So is it just too expensive?

Your design seems to just have less stuff as far as extra modules go.

[heavy vigil]

speed

and cost

[tranquil lion]

I'm not exactly sure how all those stats play in. Like "speed" and "agility".

[heavy vigil]

you should never sacrifice a lot of speed or add more than minimum amount of engines

agility isnt big

speed is the amount of times your planes attack afaik

[tranquil lion]

I do always go for the minimum engines

I'm going to need to watch a deep dive into how air combat works.

[magic aspen]

bro my game crashed

I hope I was only a few days into the month

[noble venture]

ts game is hella complex

low kirkenuinly it gets kinda glazed from roblox ron

[celest zenith]

100 IC

[tranquil lion]

Yeah

[celest zenith]

L ecos

[tulip thorn]

Ron is nothing and will never be anything like hoi4

[noble venture]

ik

[celest zenith]

what?

[tulip thorn]

That one weird roblox game

Not talking about the pc game rise of kingdoms or the mod for hoi4

[magic aspen]

I love when my allies just refuse to help in my war

like we should outnumber them 2-1 but my faction is just sitting there doing nothing

[celest zenith]

It is what it is

You need to solo carry

[tranquil lion]

Worked out in the end. I destroyed the entire British airforce and only lost 100 of the 600 heavy fighters I made with that design.

[neat kayak]

Bleed them dry

[coral gorge]

@sly sluice so? how did it go?

have you been doing another game yet?

[celest zenith]

#hoi4-general message

[tranquil lion]

You're judging my single player plane, so I provided you with the single player results it was intended for.

Simple

[celest zenith]

Main problem with new players is after winning with sub optimal strategies they think they actually achieved something.

You should instead ask yourself how big of a troll build can I do and still win.

[eternal palm]

Doesn't mean it cant be improved, yes? It works, but hoi4 isn't exactly hard either.

[tranquil lion]

Mate, first of all I am not new to the game. I just couldn't be bothered to go out of my way to play meta against single player ai.

[eternal palm]

At some point you're gonna face a situation where "it works" ain't enough

[eternal palm]

See that makes more sense

[tranquil lion]

I'm already doing a troll build with only heavy fighters.

[eternal palm]

Disregard what I said carry on

[eternal palm]

It's only trolling if you're losing

[tranquil lion]

Losin so hard rn

[tulip thorn]

Ok what if you are trolling yourself by making the most expensive everything

[neat kayak]

Clean k/d

[eternal palm]

😭

America gameplay

IC is infinite

[tulip thorn]

Germany, Ussr and america gameplay tbh

[eternal palm]

Nah USSR is actually strapped for IC

Can't even get 300 mils by 41

Unless you don't have any efficiency

[tulip thorn]

True ish

Idk ussr is pretty sandbox in sp

[eternal palm]

Is it? You only have good tank and inf MIOs

Everything else sucks

Ger and USA are sandbox

Got good MIOs all around

[celest zenith]

You posted your design here for the rating then retreated to "not being bothered" when you got conforted.

What is the point of ts? L baits?

#hoi4-general message

[tulip thorn]

The true sandbox was the friends we made along the way

[tranquil lion]

I asked for improvement advice because at that point in my game, I hadn't tested it yet and was wondering if it would fail.

[eternal palm]

Why are you tweaking cus someone doesn't give a shit about optimising? Let a brother play lmao

[eternal palm]

Fk around and find out I guess

[tulip thorn]

Who needs optimization in singleplayer

[eternal palm]

@celest zenith

Apparently

🤷‍♂️

I mean I do too

[tulip thorn]

People way to lazy to swap from mobile warfare as germany stand up

Just me... Damn

[eternal palm]

But if you don't care there's no point in me giving advice so

[tranquil lion]

Done that too many times I'm afraid. I play on ironman for... some reason. So I tend to be more careful due to the amount of runs that have ended due to random bullshit.

[eternal palm]

I play iron-man exclusively lol

Too lazy to save manually

Save scumming is cheating

[tranquil lion]

Similar opinion here. Feels less war-like.

[tulip thorn]

Making good templates it cheating

Crap templates for the win

[eternal palm]

🤯

[icy crescent]

Creep is an achievement hunter.
Reapectful and cold.

[eternal palm]

I am literally not

[icy crescent]

Wat.

[eternal palm]

I cba to do stuff that isn't fun

I have like half of thrm

[celest zenith]

You now know you won't lose regardless of your build because AI isn't meant to punish you.

[eternal palm]

Yea I play on iron-man because I'm too lazy to save manually

That's it

[icy crescent]

You can enable auto-saving without Ironmode.

[tranquil lion]

That's a bit of an... interesting reason.

[eternal palm]

Cba

[tranquil lion]

cba?

[eternal palm]

Same reason you do shit templates

[eternal palm]

Can't be asked

Or can't be arsed

[tranquil lion]

Define "shit"

[eternal palm]

U don't care to optimise

Resulting in bad templates

And that's fine

[tulip thorn]

2 width infantry

[eternal palm]

Because you don't care

So do whatever

Same reason I'm too lazy to click 2 buttons

I just don't care

[tranquil lion]

I would argue templates aren't shit just because they're not optimized. There's a middleground.

[tranquil lion]

Isn't there a strat where you spam millions of those as the USSR?

[icy crescent]

I believe I would go mad when the game saves every week.
Given that my hardware ain't running fast by any means.

[pseudo raven]

0/2's are actuall meta

[tulip thorn]

Meat wall

[tranquil lion]

Yeah

[tulip thorn]

idk, im someone who is dumb trying to act smart. While still being really dumb

[icy crescent]

Same.

[tulip thorn]

I should just get chatgpt and reddit to design everything for me in hoi4.

[eternal palm]

Not really. If there's room for improvement that means they are prone to losing to better templates, purely on the basis of design. You don't wanna lose because were too lazy to make optimal templates. This only applies to multiplayer because it matters there, but like, don't fool yourself into thinking that your templates are "good" because they work against AI. They work because you design templates that are better than AI and that's a really low bar to clear

[tranquil lion]

My brother in Christ, I'm not playing against people making op templates.

[eternal palm]

What harddrive do you have hoi on

[eternal palm]

See and that's the difference between us

[icy crescent]

Some SSD.

[eternal palm]

As I said, in sp do whatever

But remember there's Stil a ceiling to be reached

[eternal palm]

Then it should be fine

[tulip thorn]

I have hoi4 downloaded to a floppy disc trust

[eternal palm]

I had hoi4 on an old shit ssd

[eternal palm]

Ouch

[tranquil lion]

You make multiplayer sound like HoI4 without the fun.

[eternal palm]

If you don't like competition then mp won't be fun

I don't really get the appeal of using different templates though

They all do the same

They all work the same

What's fun for me is the micro

[tranquil lion]

There's a difference between fun competition and just pure spreadsheet min-maxing.

[icy crescent]

Yeah, rule 1: Have fun.
And Multiplayer doesn't mean playing against each other.
Try to get 'opens dictionary' friends and plan like a little fun campaign against the AI with not too major nations.

[eternal palm]

I'm not saying follow the spreadsheet, even though you should do thaz

[tranquil lion]

That's what I tend to do.

[icy crescent]

Nice.

[eternal palm]

Honestly theory crafting iin your head vs spreadsheet is the same thing

If you wanna be the best at something you better write it down

[tranquil lion]

I played one game against my friend (France vs Germany), and neither of us really liked it.

[eternal palm]

I don't get the aversion to comp

[eternal palm]

Then mp isn't for you, that's fine

[icy crescent]

PvP in MP is exhausting.
COOP chill.

[tranquil lion]

Because with HoI4, most of the time someone will be losing decently hard, and that's just less fun for the player losing.

[eternal palm]

See if you did that a hundred times already and AI doesn't pose a challenge what do u do

We play comp

We do spreadsheets

[tranquil lion]

Like I just held out as France, and there was nothing he could do.

[eternal palm]

Because all templates do the same. The gameplay doesn't change with different templates

Mostly

[icy crescent]

But it poses a challenge.
I am a bloody casual.
Thus is fun.

[eternal palm]

And that's the difference between us

Alr I get it

Yall just wanna play the game

[icy crescent]

And you wanna stop us from it.

[eternal palm]

No 😭

Pls dawg

I just wanna help

[coral gorge]

@sly sluice this is how it looks at sudeten crisis

as you may see, I m attacking

[icy crescent]

Big Poland.

[eternal palm]

Habsburg Poland my beloved

Kill ger in 39

[opaque mulch]

least cursed post-war moment

[icy crescent]

Austria is forbidden to be part of Germany.
So Austria makes Germany part of Austria instead.

[opaque mulch]

in the end germany put the democratic party in power which was already in power so nothing happened basically

[quasi osprey]

pov if italy was a chill guy in ww2

only yugoslavia romania and spain left

[coral gorge]

yeh this is tad too ez

[eternal palm]

Are u gonna update sheep mod to 1.17?

Or is it too much work?

[coral gorge]

there is a comptibility updte

[eternal palm]

Oh right

[coral gorge]

i hvent' optimized it tho

genuinely too much work

n I wish to get some fun first

[quasi osprey]

very historical

[coral gorge]

hmm, the need to type without using key "a" left me with few options

[toxic cypress]

just gotta build up till im so strong the ai cant nuke me to ashes

kinda regret adding a smarter ai mod and giving em tech n cores

[coral gorge]

ok this is enough of Polen

hmm I require some different choice of word to describe the system of government in which kings or queens govern

for my key is broken

rendering it impossible to type the first letter in the set of letters in english

[quasi osprey]

I dont think germany will conquer the soviets without romanians or me 🤣

[coral gorge]

you never know

trust

[quasi osprey]

they are completely alone

except for slovakia and denmark

I think that if I attacked germany right now we would win

[coral gorge]

there were previously multiple records of the Deutsch holding, if not even pushing, versus the stronger west despite being entirely by themselves

I need to fix the a key

this is getting progressively tedious

there is no doubt whether or not I will, in due course, find myself depleted in options or choices of words

[eternal palm]

Jesus christ

How do keys even break

My keyboard is crusty as fk

Has been smashed a couple times and is 6 years old

All keys still work

[coral gorge]

I wouldn't know, honestly,

might just be dust

well I am trying to get it fixed

the asian way

you know, ancient, traditional art

[quasi osprey]

the better axis

[coral gorge]

of repairing damage through the use of violence

[quasi osprey]

now I have spain

[coral gorge]

I need the a key to work, ngl

[random delta]

finally got the us in my faction as demo germany

[coral gorge]

I really can't think of any alternative to "and" that doesn't use "a" while conveying the same meaning

if I can't fix key "a", I am doomed

[inner hemlock]

is ts a good template for hungary

[coral gorge]

I can't use phone forever

no

which hungary anyway

[inner hemlock]

i think its good but idk if ive got enoguh manpower for it

[coral gorge]

like which path

[inner hemlock]

fascist

[coral gorge]

Axis-aligned?

[quasi osprey]

why are the soviets justifying against me

[inner hemlock]

yes

[random delta]

plus

[coral gorge]

Axis Hungary should just do tanks

other members will do inf for you

[inner hemlock]

ion like tanks