hoi4-general

[fair horizon]

amtracs ❤️

[sudden thistle]

Mech is fun

[celest zenith]

vro u have the same stats as inf only hardness and armor (is it worth 8x IC?)

[fair horizon]

yeah

[fair horizon]

because i dont have the manpower to waste on grinding my infantry away

[sudden thistle]

All as Hungary with mech inf

[fair horizon]

vro doesnt play minors 🥀

[celest zenith]

U know you can do this with SPAAs too

vanilla SP isn't benchmark for anything

[celest zenith]

use tanks then?

[vital cove]

that's not the issue, the issue is that it just doesn't work in places without supply

[sudden thistle]

It’s not vanilla sp??

[fair horizon]

like any unit works without supply

[fair horizon]

you do both 👍

WHERES MY OIL

[celest zenith]

bulgaria mech for dday>

[hollow narwhal]

who needs supply when u have 5000 CAS

[fair horizon]

I COULD HAVE SWORN AUSTRALIA HAD OIL

[sudden thistle]

It’s literally sheep’s mod anyway 🥀

But Bulgaria doesn’t do shit in sheep’s I never see them do anything

Except mech rush

[celest zenith]

L baits #hoi4-general message #hoi4-general message

[vital cove]

units that need more supply have a bigger problem than units that need less

pushing in Africa with units that need fuel

is just pointless

[fair horizon]

believe it or not with flame tanks any division works

[patent thistle]

rip the axis

[fair horizon]

australia oil is gone 😭

[heavy vigil]

australia is just a worse nzl

[fair horizon]

also tbf pushing in africa is pointless anyways

[fair horizon]

they're basically the same country anyways

[heavy vigil]

yeah its similar gameplay

[deep reef]

someone name a country

[heavy vigil]

but nzl gets more tech and formable

[deep reef]

in europe

[fair horizon]

latvia

[heavy vigil]

jan mayen

[deep reef]

no

[deep reef]

?

[heavy vigil]

JAN tag

iirc

or JNM

[patent thistle]

i just like the warscore i get from murdering the entire italian army

also joinked tunesia from france now

[fair horizon]

i may have sold all my convoys like an idiot...

[patent thistle]

sucks to be you

[fair horizon]

OH NO I HAVE ELECTIONS

democracy sucks 👎

[patent thistle]

turkish navy, i am lacking carriers

(also yes i did get in a engagement with the italian navy so dont question the damages)

[fair horizon]

im building a navy

[hollow narwhal]

for some reason i can create the eu so thats why im still playing 💀 🤣

[patent thistle]

i have like 3 pre-dreadnoughts (one i started with and 2 greek)

[fair horizon]

i start with 2 heavy cruisers

[patent thistle]

my pride of the fleet (a battlecruiser)

i am more of a secondary sucker then anti air

[hollow narwhal]

"what war crimes"

[fair horizon]

chat how do i get 5% recruitable from this crap

[tender stump]

does anyone know where the fortification research went?
I recently got myself götterdämmerung and have been searching for it ever since. Now I spotted where it SHOULD be in a youtube video.

I don't have any mods active that should influence that part of the tech tree

(playing as germany currently)

[patent thistle]

respect for my hungarian puppet still holding out (demanded subjegation after the war started why is why they are even involved rn)

i just realised now that franco joined the allies- welcome?

[eternal palm]

Are you sure you have the DLC enabled and are on the newest version?

[fair horizon]

chat does anyone know if any doctrine gives recruitable in the new system? im either stupid or its hard to read

[eternal palm]

Desperate defense and irregular

They give 5% and 2% respectively

[tender stump]

yes to both

[fair horizon]

and how do i get that with the new system?

[eternal palm]

Hmm weird. maybe its part of a different dlc? I see you are missing LR for example

[fair horizon]

am i forced to go a specific overall doctrine?

[ripe slate]

Wdym by that

[tender stump]

well considering my forts are nevertheless capped at very low levels I assume it isn't

[eternal palm]

hmm, did you start this save, then got the dlc and reopened the game?

[tender stump]

no I started a completely new save with the dlc

[patent thistle]

bruh franco joined, stole morroco and gibraltar and left the faction-

[fair horizon]

oh wait i see how it works

ty creep

[eternal palm]

Verify game files. This is weird

[patent thistle]

atleast north africa is now complete

[neat kayak]

🙂

i hate playing in 3 speed

map of europe

[tender stump]

it is apperently one of my mods as I tested launching it in no-mod mode and it showed up, however none of my mods should touch that part of the tech tree, nor the way how forts work so I have no clue what and why the issue is

guess only way to find out is trial and error .-.

[fair horizon]

democracy is weird

your people expect you to put their intrests first or something like that smh

like can you believe the audacity of them to ask me to demobilize? smh

[opal dust]

So how’s everyone’s day going

[trim lotus]

Apparently in the world of HOI 4, autonomous cargo ships have been perfected. Just started a war, first actual combat was me sinking a couple convoys: and zero manpower lost.

[old lake]

I always think it's so funny when there's a "this guy just died" event and accepting it gives you -1 manpower

[vague lion]

I need Beta Testers for a new mod i'm making. Dm me so i can add you on steam (it's a closed alpha)

[flint wyvern]

How long till the luftwaffe ceases to exist

[kind vale]

Never

[patent thistle]

dont think the italians are going to survive this boys

[pseudo raven]

omg

how bot done this

so now i will do second run on navy sweden

[sand heath]

guys

what's the problem

why are my troops not paratrooping

guys?

[pseudo raven]

u need all regions control

lamanch air too

[sand heath]

wdym?

[pseudo raven]

u need to control air in all tiles from now

[sand heath]

oh alr

[pseudo raven]

move cursor here and read

[sand heath]

i fricking hate invading britain

[pseudo raven]

there will be shown everything required

[sand heath]

yo

why am i not getting mission efficiency?

[pseudo raven]

intel

wether penalty

interception

no radar or radio

i guess lots of stuff inpacts

day night also

[sand heath]

wait

so radio's

help in air attacks?

[fair horizon]

yes

[sand heath]

is this bad?

why am i not getting air superiority

i sent 2.4 k fighters to the english channel

oh

[pseudo raven]

u are on non hist?

[sand heath]

i put

like

4 k planes

in one airport

[pseudo raven]

XD

[sand heath]

yh

[pseudo raven]

havent noticed on screen sorry

[sand heath]

the soviets are at war with america and uk

[pseudo raven]

i guess u know but u can fastly split divisions or plains in half by pressing S

[sand heath]

yh

how many hours do you have in HOI4?

[pseudo raven]

recently got steam version after playing bad version of game for 5 years probably

was in game before no step back if i remember coractly

[sand heath]

since when is that?

im quite new

[pseudo raven]

late 2021

[sand heath]

oh

well

i've been playing HOI4 for a year

since like december

[pseudo raven]

not bad

[sand heath]

2025

[pseudo raven]

yeah

not bad

already knowing how to paratroop

[sand heath]

i saw a vid

[pseudo raven]

grate

[sand heath]

i understand air a bit

and

i don't understand naval at all

[pseudo raven]

actually some ytubers do more guides "accidentally" in their regular games

[sand heath]

uhm i sent all my paratroopers to london and they got obliterated 😭

[pseudo raven]

and their more useful then boring numbers and other stuf in guides

[pseudo raven]

pocket mechanic
when your division is surrounded by enemy division it gets penalties to basicly most of it's stats

try to partroop ports

[sand heath]

it wasn't surrounded

my 5 divisions were frontally atacked by 2 british infantry divisions

[pseudo raven]

how they died than

[sand heath]

idk

[pseudo raven]

what is the tamplate

[sand heath]

i'd say not bad for 1942

but idk

[pseudo raven]

replace logistics with signal company

[ripe slate]

Logistics is very strong with the right doctrine I think?\

🤔

[sand heath]

i don't rlly understand doctrines

i just pick one

[pseudo raven]

and military police with poaratroop lt

[sand heath]

with good stats

like soft attack

[pseudo raven]

not necesery for capturing naval base

[sand heath]

how to open this menu?

[pseudo raven]

aa is much better

idk is it dlc locked

and is this even a thing without dlc

paratrooping light tanks

[sand heath]

I don't have any dlcs

🙁

[pseudo raven]

oh

[pseudo raven]

can u send me a screen of tank research tree

[sand heath]

ok

[pseudo raven]

i thought there would be an icon of paratroop on light tank

but there no such a thing

[sand heath]

i added light tanks

to template

and see the x

[pseudo raven]

not to template

as recon light tanks

instead of military police

[pseudo raven]

indicator showing that it's imposible to drop

[sand heath]

yeah

[pseudo raven]

in both ways

[sand heath]

yo

what's the best way to get manpower fast?

without using scraping the barrel

or smth

[pseudo raven]

compliance gain

[celest zenith]

You can only add Airborne Light Armor battalion if you have the DLC: Arms Against Tyranny and have unlocked the paratrooper doctrine

[pseudo raven]

Omg

sad

[sand heath]

I dont like this dlc stuff

[pseudo raven]

yep

[brave steeple]

i play kr for the first time in ages and the game bugs out so i have to solo germany

[pseudo raven]

there is like subscription

but eventualy from some point in time u will overpay

[sand heath]

im already using

service by requirement

[sudden thistle]

DLC is paradox’s way of business

[sand heath]

yh but

the game isn't free

[pseudo raven]

yeah all of their games are like constructor

[sand heath]

itself without dlcs

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

I know

[sand heath]

so uhm

how do i get manpower?

[pseudo raven]

love sweden for civ gridy stuff opportunity

[bronze mango]

Change garrison law and template to a less costly option

[sand heath]

whats a garrison law?

[pseudo raven]

occupation law

[sand heath]

and what's that?

[pseudo raven]

this menu

[bronze mango]

On your country screen there is a tab called occupied territories, which has options for occupied territories ranging from more costly to cheaper

[pseudo raven]

opens in country menu

To many words hopefully reading none of them

[sand heath]

guys

a divison landed

so

now

can i send troops

to the port?

[pseudo raven]

u nedd them to win a fight for a tile

if they win tile becomes your

[sand heath]

i gtg

cya

[pseudo raven]

cas can help

and that's why i adviced dlc locked tanks

to get some armor on divisions

[fair horizon]

how the heck do i get this as democratic australia?

[pseudo raven]

being independent

[fair horizon]

right

theres no focus to make it go up

[pseudo raven]

doing land lease

[fair horizon]

alright so in other words i dont

because i dont have the industry for thatr

[pseudo raven]

build convoys

[pseudo raven]

how many mills

?

[fair horizon]

12

[lilac glen]

Am I underpowered?

[pseudo raven]

what is your template and doctrine choice

[arctic nest]

what happend in smolensk

[pseudo raven]

send screens if u can

[arctic nest]

also you have way to less diviosn

[pseudo raven]

maybe they are 32 width

with doctrines

need screenshots of template

[arctic nest]

looks more like he got lost the half of them

[fair horizon]

smh ive been cheated by dirty italian subs

[arctic nest]

you playing austraila navy

[fair horizon]

im playing australia yes

honestly hate democratic australia

[arctic nest]

play as emu empire

[fair horizon]

the new naval dominance system is kinda cringe ngl

[arctic nest]

nah

its perfect

[lilac glen]

I added the line artillery recently tho

[fair horizon]

i mean i get it wants you to build spotting cruisers but the whole strike force thing is kinda useless now

[lilac glen]

We dont talk about Smolensk

[fair horizon]

why bother strike forcing if im just gonna use patrol now anyways

[pseudo raven]

make it 32 width infantry without art bataliuons

[lilac glen]

Actually I didn't, I just don't have a lot of guys lol

[pseudo raven]

and support art and aa

and other support equip

[lilac glen]

Idk my doutrine tbh

[arctic nest]

it multiplies your nabal supremavy and patrol only gives up to 320 (iam not sure) sueprmacy

[lilac glen]

I just click the ones that sound cooler

[fair horizon]

yeah but if you dont have ships to patrol like basically any non-major its pointless

[pseudo raven]

for 32 width tamplate u can choose doctrine wich reduce combat width

so u can fit more 32 width divs in one combat

with new doctrines works fien

fine*

[lilac glen]

9/3 isn't good?

[arctic nest]

not great but you can still use it in mp

uh

not mp

[lilac glen]

I don't play MP lol

[arctic nest]

dont mp

[lilac glen]

I am afraid of people

lol

[arctic nest]

against like ai soviet it should work

[pseudo raven]

still just doing 32width inf with 2 line arts

would be much better

[arctic nest]

as finland🤑

[pseudo raven]

they sometimes are not people

[pseudo raven]

i done it

than had no manpower

reduced it to 6 0's

with buffed from maxed support companies doctrine

and some how got warscore on war with ussr

teto enchants u to be greedy civ builder

[arctic nest]

do as finland

i think 4 diviosn are enough

for winter war

[lilac glen]

@pseudo raven

This?

[light nova]

well well well

look who we have here

[arctic nest]

do you have áir?

[arctic nest]

i gotta defend 9/3 line arty

and NOT talk about middel east

[light nova]

I think lebanon is a great starting nation

[arctic nest]

i hope it gets annex by france

[light nova]

what you know about Lebanon and Syria

[light nova]

that's just cancer

is that even effective

[arctic nest]

yes

[light nova]

damn

[arctic nest]

peak level of effectines

like peak peak

[sudden thistle]

A nuclear bomb is effective too

[pseudo raven]

not for achievment

[light nova]

I was told line arty destroys your divisions

[pseudo raven]

or u advice rush for med flathrowers

and rush Leningrad

[arctic nest]

uh syria had a civil war that ahy all the sryian guys are in germany

[hollow shoal]

yo i got an already created army and i wanna add a division to it how do i do that

[pseudo raven]

yes

i use this

[light nova]

shift click the red icon

[arctic nest]

destryes enemy diviosn the person probaly hat no idea

[light nova]

if you're training

[lilac glen]

Isn't it a bit expensive?

[arctic nest]

for the finland files?

[light nova]

if you aren't

click U

[pseudo raven]

somethimes one art battalion replacing with aa

[light nova]

click on your division

[hollow shoal]

what red icon

[lilac glen]

I just don't know how to make divisions fit my production

[light nova]

and start training a bunch

[pseudo raven]

you are germany

[light nova]

are you training any troops?

[arctic nest]

bro line aa in the big 26 and sp

[light nova]

if not

[hollow shoal]

nope im pretty new at the game

[pseudo raven]

I am lazy building planes as ussr

[light nova]

click u

[hollow shoal]

im still getting a hang of it

[light nova]

and then you should see your templates

[hollow shoal]

alright

[light nova]

click on the template you wanna make more of

[arctic nest]

32 with as ussr? iam doing 2 with workers

[light nova]

click add unit

[pseudo raven]

not loosing any of ur cores

[arctic nest]

trust

[light nova]

set it from ∞ to 1

[pseudo raven]

U know i am lore accurate soviet general

[arctic nest]

bruh you didnt get the refernce

[light nova]

and train as many as you can before it shows you an exclamation mark

[pseudo raven]

human waves

[pseudo raven]

yes

[light nova]

if you want to the troops immediately you can force deploy once they're at 20% training

[hollow shoal]

idk how this is connected to me adding a division in an already created army w a general

[hollow shoal]

ye ik that

[light nova]

oh you want to add troops to an army

there should be a red manpower icon at the top

[hollow shoal]

yee

[hollow shoal]

like 3 troops and it saying unassigned divisions?

[light nova]

yes

then you wanna take those troops

and right click them on the army you want to put them on

[hollow shoal]

Thank you

im trying to spam cavalry to invade hungary or bulgaria as romania

[light nova]

oh no

no don't

as Romania first of all

you don't need to invade Bulgaria

they just submit like the good boys they are

second

[lilac glen]

I literally don't know how to measure my production capability well

[light nova]

I don't think you're gonna have a fun time using calvary

[light nova]

so what you can do

[pseudo raven]

majors even france can afford this template

[light nova]

is if you have the required manpower

[fair horizon]

thanks for calling me in britian, i needed this war

[light nova]

turn all your divisions

[hollow shoal]

ohh alright

[light nova]

into infantry

[hollow shoal]

ye i was abt to ask that but how do i do that

[pseudo raven]

if playing against ai

[light nova]

you can do this by clicking on your field marshall

and clicking on the little arrow in the top left

[hollow shoal]

i did it

thank you very much kind stranger

[light nova]

yw

now if you went down Balkans dominance

you get Bulgaria for free

you will 93% have to invade Hungary tho

[opaque mulch]

guys are working overtime for me

get out

[light nova]

mods

[pseudo raven]

<@&846894118219022336>

[light nova]

force him to play tannu Tuva

[pseudo raven]

yes

[hollow shoal]

i got 38 infantry divisions i can throw at hungary i js dont know how to get my manpower on the field up

[light nova]

ok click on your field marshall

[flint wyvern]

Is there a way to hide enemy division cos I misclicked a random button and now I can't see the enemy divisions

[opaque mulch]

train more guys if u mean more fielded manpower

[pseudo raven]

just for being fine guy to them(when u have 100%percent compliance, do a harsh quote )

[light nova]

click Z then Shift click on the border of the Nation you want to attack

[light nova]

yeah

yk where all the map modes are

at the bottom of it

there's a little player symbol

click it

[hollow shoal]

ye i got a frontline on hungary

[light nova]

now look for the Offensive line feature

idk what button that is

it's right next to Frontline

[flint wyvern]

Ok ty it works now

[light nova]

click on offensive line and draw it at like Gyór

[hollow shoal]

yup ik that too

[hollow shoal]

i grew it there

drew*

[light nova]

did you do the Align Bulgaria focus first

do that first

Bulgaria will always say yes

after that

align Hungary

they almost always say no

when they say no

you can invade

[hollow shoal]

i did it

i js made more cavalry

transfered into infantry

[hollow shoal]

i got dominate balkans

[light nova]

alright

do puppet Bulgaria

once they say yes

align Hungary

once they say no

click on the arrow and just start microing your way to Budapest

[hollow shoal]

alright do i call bulgarian divisions too?

[light nova]

like

there really is no need

because that's extra war score for Bulgaria

[hollow shoal]

okay do i pick aggresive attack like send everything into hungary

[light nova]

but no you should not

[hollow shoal]

or do i yk do 2 lines

instead of 3

[light nova]

stay on 2

[hollow shoal]

alr alr ima invade now

[light nova]

and then you should micro

don't leave it running

[hollow shoal]

micro?

[light nova]

you will lose if you click the arrow and sit back

[lilac glen]

Oooooo okay

[light nova]

basically tell each division what you want them to do

encircle Hungarians whenever you get the chance

[light nova]

you do this

by clicking on a division

then right clicking on where you have to go

[hollow shoal]

yup ik that

[light nova]

to win you need to capture the 3 cities

[hollow shoal]

i got 47 divisions

[light nova]

Budapest

Gyór

[pseudo raven]

worthy or mid?

[light nova]

Debrecen

and maybe Sopron

[pseudo raven]

finaly

[hollow shoal]

ima try to invade them now

[reef blaze]

Helol

[pseudo raven]

Hi

[reef blaze]

Y

[light nova]

finally indeed

far too long Sweden has not been known as Sweden

[hollow shoal]

i joined the axis and now italy wanted to help me i also steamrolled most of hungary its just gyor now and some cornered cities

[pseudo raven]

YES

[light nova]

uh

[pseudo raven]

no manpower

[light nova]

who has more war score?

[light nova]

none of this Sverige bullshit

[crisp wyvern]

Me seeing how the navy I've been working and building on for 4 years in hoi4 gets instantly obliterated by the US Navy:

[fair horizon]

skill issue

[light nova]

that just happens

[crisp wyvern]

Italian navy moment

[pseudo raven]

but i want to join axis

[crisp wyvern]

fr

[hollow shoal]

idk it says i got some stuff and germany got some land not alot and we deleted hungary off the map

[pseudo raven]

and steal warscore by using fleet

[crisp wyvern]

never focus that much on ship technology and I rather focus more on economy upgrades

[hollow shoal]

do i secure greece? @light nova

[light nova]

did you puppet Hungary

[crisp wyvern]

Whatever you see the best, Mussolini

[light nova]

focus on your industry

[pseudo raven]

not storm not trooper

just unit

bad unit

[crisp wyvern]

Is not even a stormtrooper that's just John hoi4 and his friends acting as tough ass divisions

[hollow shoal]

I dont really have it puppeted i got its land so ig i dont have it as a puppet

[light nova]

oh

[hollow shoal]

So like make mils?

[light nova]

that's not good

[light nova]

yeah

[hollow shoal]

Im romania bro

[hollow shoal]

deal

[light nova]

when you do divide Yugoslavia

[pseudo raven]

is org necesary for destroyers and cruisers

[light nova]

you can either share it with Hungary or Italy

[pseudo raven]

i will do them as sweden

[light nova]

since Hungary could've been your puppet

[crisp wyvern]

Good luck then Carol II

[light nova]

you could've had all of Yugoslavia to yourself

[hollow shoal]

i got 60 divisions should i divide yugo now?

[pseudo raven]

or do focus on light attack

[light nova]

yeah but it's a very weird focus

[hollow shoal]

Corneliu Codreanu actually

[fair horizon]

my one battleship hasnt got the chance to fire its guns in anger yet

[light nova]

it opens decisions for you

[hollow shoal]

what does that mean

[light nova]

to split Yugo with Italy

[fair horizon]

and shes angry

[light nova]

you spent pol power making your claims on Yugo

when they're done

Yugo either accepts

or declines

[hollow shoal]

so what i attack yugo gain their lands and then split w italy?

or do i have no attacking to do

[light nova]

you could've had it all to yourself if you puppeted Hungary

[light nova]

you attack if they say no

snd Italy gets the land they wanted

[hollow shoal]

ill try

[fair horizon]

hehehe shes angry lads

[crisp wyvern]

I love making my digital population in hoi4 happy as whatever country whenever I got democratic

Reject expansionism, embrace being a wholesome leader

[light nova]

Bulgaria democracy is broken

[light nova]

you can core Balkans without needing to invade anyone

[pseudo raven]

Hey

[light nova]

so true

[crisp wyvern]

I have 0.05¢ on my steam wallet, I got no dlcs.

[crisp wyvern]

That should tell you the kind of hoi4 player I am

[pseudo raven]

light attack or hard for cruisers

[light nova]

the subscription is 5$ a month

[pseudo raven]

?

[light nova]

for all Dlcs

[hollow shoal]

btw i have not researched anything in infantry.

[crisp wyvern]

I don't buy dlcs, I get them from the workshop

[hollow shoal]

only industry n the other thing

[light nova]

do you want light or heavy cruisers

[fair horizon]

border gore india 🤮

[crisp wyvern]

aw hell naw they got afghanistan

[crisp wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-meme-black-guy-crying-to-playboi-carti-cedrick66-black-guy-crying-gif-27275751

[pseudo raven]

is there any major diff I can't build both as sweden ?

[light nova]

you could

light cruisers are like

faster but have less guns

[fair horizon]

smaller guns

[light nova]

imagine like a destroyer with more guns

[light nova]

and less

and Smaller

[fair horizon]

depends on the design

[light nova]

some treaty defines Light cruisers as 6 gun cruisers

and heavy as 8

heavy cruisers are like weaker battleships

[pseudo raven]

i done this last try

[light nova]

but battleships suck

[fair horizon]

so whats the definition for american light cruisers then?

[hollow shoal]

i see some german and soviet border action near bessarabia.

[crisp wyvern]

I just throw whatever trash design I have for ships and pray that they are good

That's what peak navy gameplay is about

[light nova]

ig like Ticonderoga class

[fair horizon]

building heavy cruisers 🤮

[pseudo raven]

with bunch oh destroyers with aa torpedos and deapth bo,bs

[crisp wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-high-jfk-crying-mourning-grief-gif-5010867055321933586

[fair horizon]

like the clevelands or the atlanta

[pseudo raven]

why not

[fair horizon]

cause you could build a battleship for slightly more and it actually has armor

[light nova]

light cruisers are just like stronger destroyers why not make good destroyers

and heavy cruisers are wanna be battleships

[fair horizon]

easy answer destroyers are made of paper

[pseudo raven]

bad even if i play against ai

[light nova]

true but they're so mass produceable

[fair horizon]

yeah because you expect to lose them

[light nova]

yeah

but like

[pseudo raven]

i got once dead like 50 destroyers because of usa naval bomber

[light nova]

what's 50 Destroyers when you have like 500

[fair horizon]

aa battleships help with that btw

[pseudo raven]

played sheep mod for ai

[fair horizon]

enough ic to build 10 good cruisers

[light nova]

yeah

I think light cruisers are a decent main ship

[pseudo raven]

like placing aa only on them instead of little bit of aa to every ship?

[light nova]

battleships to me are all propaganda value

[light nova]

I don't like them

[fair horizon]

like this, all ships have their own designated slot for aa but battleships have high surface vis so stuff targets them more

[pseudo raven]

and other ships i can do without aa

[fair horizon]

yay

[pseudo raven]

jsut must have this aa moncter in stack with them?

[light nova]

you should be 4:1

[fair horizon]

i usually make all my battleships be aa battleships

[pseudo raven]

4 normal 1 aa?

[light nova]

for every battleship

4 destroyers or cruisers

that covers it

[pseudo raven]

yes i already know that

[light nova]

it covers AA I think

[hollow shoal]

i accidentaly gave bassarabia to ussr.

[light nova]

as well

[pseudo raven]

just trying to understand templates

[light nova]

does the AA have a radius stat

or sum

I never use ships as I play Lebanon

[pseudo raven]

now u can get wargoal faster smart move

[light nova]

accidentally

[light nova]

part of carol IIs genius

[pseudo raven]

tank romania

[hollow shoal]

It said it is hopeless and i didnt read it well n i thought like its hopeless of them to ask

[hollow shoal]

So its not my fault i lost it

[hollow shoal]

Lol

[light nova]

crazy

[fair horizon]

to my knowledge only the ship being attacked by planes actually can shoot them down

[hollow shoal]

Teto?

[fair horizon]

so thats why aa battleships are good

[pseudo raven]

yeah

[fair horizon]

TETO SWEEP

[hollow shoal]

Love the music

[pseudo raven]

and I enchant @hollow shoal to dockyard greed

[fair horizon]

NAVY GREED ❤️

[pseudo raven]

its like hope core

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/akagi-azur-lane-my-beloved-meme-my-beloved-heart-gif-25042513

[pseudo raven]

that's why i want to join axis

to get focused for fleet more

than should

also lots of resources would help

[mellow jetty]

deez ships tho

[pseudo raven]

what if i do only havy attack cruisers

and torpedo atack destroyers

[mellow jetty]

oh i misread

torpedo destroyers are not very efficient vs screens

[remote quarry]

that's the worst type of ship you could build

[mellow jetty]

i would consider light attack cruisers

to melt screening line

[pseudo raven]

but why

[remote quarry]

because it has a bunch of heavy attack with no piercing

and heavy cruiser doesn't have armor

[pseudo raven]

mio isn't providing it

?

[remote quarry]

cruiser armor is 12 max

which = 0 for a capital ship

[pseudo raven]

but i will do destroyers as screens

[mellow jetty]

yea you need heavy piercing since Capitals often have armor

[remote quarry]

you don't want that either

[mellow jetty]

CL's for screening

[remote quarry]

it has nothing to do with screens

[mellow jetty]

can even have a bit of armor on CL

[remote quarry]

heavy cruiser has the worst survivability amongst capital ships

[pseudo raven]

i remember torpedo attack was brain dead strat like year and half ago

[mellow jetty]

cause heavy cruiser is built on regular cruiser hull

[lean walrus]

navy is bugged right?

[mellow jetty]

just with heavy batteries

[pseudo raven]

does it get changed?

[mellow jetty]

thats the difference

[fair horizon]

i mean you can its just not as good as battleships

cruiser armor is cruiser armor

[remote quarry]

it has never been good

[fair horizon]

level 2 is 8 armor which is easy for even light cruisers to do good damage through

[remote quarry]

especially against ai

[pseudo raven]

like spaming first subs with 3lvl torpedos

[remote quarry]

I think torp dd is the meta navy if both sides build it and have full doctrine, but it's definitely not good against ai

[remote quarry]

that's a different thing

has nothing to do with what we are talking about

[pseudo raven]

i thought with destroyers it same

[remote quarry]

subs kill navy because they can't be hit until they are revealted

it's completely different

destroyer is just a surface ship

[pseudo raven]

early destroyer with high level torpedo

[pseudo raven]

got it

[remote quarry]

remember that the main characteristic of ai navy is a large amount of low piercing ligth attack(read: effective against destroyers), quite a lot of torps, some heavy attack, and on average more HP on the capital line relative to an ideal composition

[pseudo raven]

so deaph bombs and that's all?

[remote quarry]

you don't build destroyers

[pseudo raven]

but screens are necesery

[remote quarry]

you build light cruisers

[pseudo raven]

as screens?

[remote quarry]

yes

[pseudo raven]

for battle ships

[hollow shoal]

is this good?

[remote quarry]

you don't need battleships either

but yeah

[hollow shoal]

like for a beginner

[pseudo raven]

scary asf to see this at 41

where are all your man disappeared

[remote quarry]

military governor in budapest

[hollow shoal]

Uh well

i kinda threw them all at hungary and yugoslavia

[pseudo raven]

and what is your occupation laws

and template for occupation

[lean walrus]

fighting Japan, they are nearly out of convoys. I love unrestricted submarine warfare

[hollow shoal]

limited conscription and im making i think 6 divisions of cavalry

[lean walrus]

Proper OP focus

[lilac glen]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

Guys, I think I am going to lose historically

[pseudo raven]

press on this icon and send screen of opened menu

[eternal palm]

Barb looks green

Whats the problem

[hollow shoal]

i genuenly have no idea what this is

[pseudo raven]

red is bad

remember it

less percent on resistence good

[hollow shoal]

okay how do i make it be good

[pseudo raven]

first change occupation template from infantry

atleast to tamplate like this

this tamplate suppresion

[hollow shoal]

wait wait wait

[hollow shoal]

do i click there and change it to cavalry?

[pseudo raven]

suppresion of prety expensive infantry

[lilac glen]

I am losing territory

[pseudo raven]

first change or create new tamplate here

[hollow shoal]

ill create a new one

[pseudo raven]

than change from infatry to it here

[lilac glen]

I never win attacks, only attacks

And when I lose territory, I cant get it back

[pseudo raven]

go ahead

[lilac glen]

I tried changing my templates

Encircling, air superiority

But those soviets just wont bulge

[hollow shoal]

ill pick inf and what do i set the template as

[pseudo raven]

than place garnisons on high priority

[hollow shoal]

main soviet tactic is sending endless waves of enemies at u irl and in game

[pseudo raven]

so they are refiled with guns

[pseudo raven]

no infantry

[hollow shoal]

so cavalry?

[pseudo raven]

yes

[hollow shoal]

alright and i use this template

[pseudo raven]

more suppresion

[pseudo raven]

atleast it would work better than infantry

[hollow shoal]

wth is on the 3rd thingy

is it a light tank

[hollow shoal]

do i switch them to infantry or keep cavalry?

[pseudo raven]

armored car

[neat kayak]

i have a dumb ideea and i want to try it

[lilac glen]

The problem: Its working

[pseudo raven]

cavalry is only for poland and occupation

[hollow shoal]

like this?

[hollow shoal]

so i switch them to infantry when they spawn?

[pseudo raven]

it's motorized not armored car

[neat kayak]

just us cav for garrisons

[lilac glen]

I can barely keep the line with the soviets

[hollow shoal]

we dont have the budget for that.

[pseudo raven]

u do not need to train them

[pseudo raven]

than only pony

and military police suport company

[hollow shoal]

ill research that

my supression is 16

[fair horizon]

anyone else like convoy raiding with surface ships?

[pseudo raven]

u need just choose them in occupation menu as occupation template, set garnisons on high priority and thats it

[pseudo raven]

torpedo destroyers are cool ❤️

[lilac glen]

How do I defeat the soviets? 😔

What am I missing?

[pseudo raven]

do not train them

[hollow shoal]

and switch like this here right?

[hollow shoal]

so js spawn?

[pseudo raven]

no

they already are used without spawning

here

no need in deployment

[hollow shoal]

alright so change template dont train them and js cancel that

[pseudo raven]

and any training

[lean walrus]

all of japan's convoys have gone, gg

[hollow shoal]

and change it here like this

[pseudo raven]

just change and thast it

[hollow shoal]

like thus?

[pseudo raven]

yes press "Yes" option here

[sudden thistle]

best mod ofc

[pseudo raven]

yes

[hollow shoal]

so what does that do for me now

[pseudo raven]

replace military police

oh

military goverment law

sorry

[hollow shoal]

im gonna tweak.

what is happening

[pseudo raven]

change this

[hollow shoal]

to what?

[pseudo raven]

one of those

[hollow shoal]

gestapo

[pseudo raven]

for first time secret police

[pseudo raven]

oh

percents ar growing

than need to set

for some time

[pseudo raven]

to explain local that farming tools are not effective against guns

https://tenor.com/view/pearto-kasane-teto-teto-kasane-hatsune-miku-miku-hatsune-gif-12678903292755170183

[hollow shoal]

where the hell is even that

[hollow shoal]

german focus..

[hollow shoal]

ah aight

[remote quarry]

the reason your resistance explodes is this law

[remote quarry]

you need to change it to local police force

[remote quarry]

it's pretty much the first thing you do every game

[hollow shoal]

my brain is gonna fry

[remote quarry]

yes

[pseudo raven]

he already has above 50% he needs to reduce it first

[remote quarry]

because you need to fulfill garrison requirement

[pseudo raven]

or nah?

[remote quarry]

no

he is over 50% because garrison requirement are not fulfilled

[hollow shoal]

what percent we talking about.

[remote quarry]

first thing you do every game is to swap the default occupation law to a usable one like civilian oversight

[pseudo raven]

he used main infantry equipment for avail

[remote quarry]

and ALWAYS ensure that garrison requirement is fulfilled

[pseudo raven]

now switched to cav

[hollow shoal]

ah okay

[pseudo raven]

should be fine

[remote quarry]

go to your deployment tab and give garrison high priority

[hollow shoal]

i did

[remote quarry]

which is why you do local police

has the least garrison requirement

[pseudo raven]

Best thing ever

[remote quarry]

if you want to play correctly, you would always want to make collaboration government using the spy mission on any land you would occupy

it's essential

[pseudo raven]

but only democrats

[remote quarry]

or, put it on harsh quota

[hollow shoal]

HELLL NAH

[remote quarry]

using miltiary governor means you get nothing out of the land

[hollow shoal]

IM IN WAR WITH THE SOVIETS

WHAT HAS THE AXIS GAVE UPON ME

[pseudo raven]

get besarabia back

[hollow shoal]

imagine i get ukraine.

[pseudo raven]

if u get caucas to

u will be a oil monopoly for axis

if arab countries join allies

[hollow shoal]

Its my first time playing this game

I DONT KNOW HOW TO GET TO THE CAUCAS

[pseudo raven]

conquer soviets.

be like cratos killing gods

kill sovieats as Romania

pure balkan dominance

over the world

[hollow shoal]

I GOT BASARABIA BACK

[pseudo raven]

see german ai can push

u must secure suply hubs for bot

[hollow shoal]

ykw im turning into tsar nicholas vs the ottomans

do i push to kiev next?

[pseudo raven]

yes

[hollow shoal]

wait can u get in vc?

[pseudo raven]

press f4 and u will see suply network

[pseudo raven]

nah

[hollow shoal]

oke oke

[pseudo raven]

move cursor on sovie lanf

land

grey squares are suply hubs

[pseudo raven]

u must secure them so ai do not starve to death

[hollow shoal]

oh well

ima try

[pseudo raven]

because until moscow ai can get

after it is pure hell for it

and rush stalingrad

would be helpfull to

do smaller frontline

[meager valley]

Vanilla btw

[fair horizon]

love the overkill of using escort carriers to convoy raid

[pseudo raven]

only for ukrain territory

[hollow shoal]

welp trotsky is dead

idk if my troops are advancing

[pseudo raven]

this button

not this

[hollow shoal]

but i have a frontline

do i need to make a new one?

[pseudo raven]

make existing one shortet

shorter

[hollow shoal]

kk

[pseudo raven]

covering only your border with ussr

[hollow shoal]

honestly

idk wth is happening

[pseudo raven]

i can explain in short terms

[hollow shoal]

i literally dont know how to make a frontline while having an existing one

i got an offensive line my troosp supposed to attack

BUT THEY AINT BUDGIN

[pseudo raven]

Map is your colour-good
Map isn't your colour-isn't good

[hollow shoal]

yup ik i have a multicontinental country at my border

Superpower btw

IM HORRIFIED

do i get a doctrine

[pseudo raven]

activate the plan

[hollow shoal]

i got enough of them green starts?

[hollow shoal]

i did

[pseudo raven]

execute the order 66

[pseudo raven]

sent screen

[pseudo raven]

1. make frontline shorter so all your divisions will concentrate here

[hollow shoal]

thats the point idk how to

NV

NVM

I GOT IT

[pseudo raven]

2.via clicking this button draw a battle plan,example on second screen

[pseudo raven]

yes

[pseudo raven]

now do this

[hollow shoal]

yup offensive like

line

not too big

[hollow shoal]

why the hell does it look like that here

well its basically along the river

[hollow shoal]

bud

[hollow shoal]

im gon get evaporated

pal im gonna get sent to the gulag

yk when u said kratos vs zeus

[toxic cypress]

hehe 69

[hollow shoal]

THIS TIME HE GON END ME

[toxic cypress]

romania v soviet u shldnt push

u shlda done a protective line

[pseudo raven]

why u need those horses

[toxic cypress]

and just make em melt

[hollow shoal]

Out of every single number on the screen u catch 69 u got a keen eye

[pseudo raven]

soldiers have legs for only reason

to not share food with horses

[toxic cypress]

i love 69

[hollow shoal]

No mp to make em into infantry

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/stole-that-69-tekashi-69-vladtv-gif-7345130708083409143

[pseudo raven]

delete to get mp into actual infantry

[hollow shoal]

alright

[toxic cypress]

its too late

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[pseudo raven]

than time for cozak poland

[hollow shoal]

i deleted 18 divisions of horses to still have 0 mp

[pseudo raven]

peak 1 game expirience

increse conscription law

[hollow shoal]

u told me to delete em

[hollow shoal]

all adults serve?

[toxic cypress]

cant wait

https://tenor.com/view/enclave-fallout-propaganda-76-gif-1832661275352466615

[pseudo raven]

nah i am about fighting war with ussr without manpower

sand me screen of this

move cursor on manpower

[hollow shoal]

but do i change laws to all adults serve?

[sudden thistle]

omg

mobilize

civ eco in 1942

[toxic cypress]

i broke my game

[sudden thistle]

not that far

[pseudo raven]

do extensive consription

[toxic cypress]

its spelling usa wrong

[hollow shoal]

ive played this game for 2 days

[hollow shoal]

okay

[sudden thistle]

🔥

[pseudo raven]

and war economy

[hollow shoal]

if all of em die gonna have to scrape the barrel

[hollow shoal]

Alright

and do i get a doctrine?

[toxic cypress]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3E7dfMvvCLUddWissuqMwr?si=5bff4527fa0c4f2d

[pseudo raven]

idk i am getting a brake

for 12 mins atleast

[hollow shoal]

im gettin nukes