hoi4-general

[amber matrix]

What does this even mean

[tulip thorn]

I have no idea

Been forever since I did the path

Im not one to play spain

[copper sluice]

might be the most fun one spain has

considering its the only one that actually does anything

[tulip thorn]

The non franco fascist path is decent and monarchist does some things while also getting a pretty good buff

The anarchist one is the most unique

[copper sluice]

I cant move on athens for some reason lol

the arrow is full but I cant attack them or move there

ok it finally worked

[vagrant dagger]

thats fun

1940 america entrance

truly a game

[copper sluice]

it looks like neighbouring states are cheaper tho

[tulip thorn]

Yeah because some states are more expensive than others

[amber matrix]

Guys The whole world just declared war on me for poland

EVEN THE USA

[terse skiff]

maybe people just really liked poland

[copper sluice]

can I see the total casualties I have inflicted somewhere

[terse skiff]

yes, in your army theater tab click the records button

[amber matrix]

SWITZERLAND

😭

I AM AT WAR WITH SWITZERLAND

[copper sluice]

fk its 6 am and I rly want to keep playing

how do I get rid of the question marks

[amber matrix]

Those are divisions

You cant

[brave steeple]

they will arrange a coup

[magic aspen]

I think they mean how do they see the division numbers

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314432842356228115/1434311705697058888/tenor.gif

[amber matrix]

Switzerland

[vagrant dagger]

oh well no duh

[amber matrix]

The funny part is im actually winning

[vagrant dagger]

bermoscow invites literally everyone

[amber matrix]

ik

i didnt know that

but now i do

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1357506524724986006/1431684199462473801/togif.gif

[amber matrix]

Allies have 1.2k Factories

What am i supposed to
do

[magic aspen]

Berlin-Moscow axis would be too stronk

[amber matrix]

😭

[magic aspen]

So the game send everyone against you lol

[amber matrix]

Here are my stats lol

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1357506524724986006/1431684199462473801/togif.gif

use the key

its not that hard

[amber matrix]

im too lazy

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314432842356228115/1434311705697058888/tenor.gif

[magic aspen]

I think taking the picture might be more effort lol

[amber matrix]

i thi no

[magic aspen]

Listen here

I fixed it lol

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179626157876977705/1449523872016896223/snaplytics_converted_gif_4.gif

[amber matrix]

Okay thi

[brave steeple]

can we talk more about hoi4

and how kx is better than kr

except for 4 nations

[opal nymph]

KX is wacky funny
KR is more grounded and chill

[dusky burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225597737681031282/1297872029776613386/caption.gif

[brave steeple]

kr has better germany, ottomans,random chinese warlord
kx has better japan,canada,usa (like 6 nations) mongolia a debably better russia and ukraine better union of brit better sweden better france better south africa better argentinas

[opal nymph]

Why did you separate everything

[dusky burrow]

Increased precision is always nice

[opal nymph]

Did you know you can select 1 troops in an army and give an order for just that one guy?

Or did NCNS change something

[brave steeple]

also the being 'kr is more grounded' is somewhat true however we are talking about germany winning ww1 and france nd uk falling to syndicalism

also you can make nations not go via wacky focus trees

the uk ai will NEVER go exile path unless forced to via game rules

germany kr focus tree is better tho

[opal nymph]

I think KX has the better US tree

KR is more known as Chinareich to be fair

[brave steeple]

result: vic 3 better

[brave steeple]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

oh wait kx

yea

[dusky burrow]

chinareich lmao

[brave steeple]

japan kx is better in general

[dusky burrow]

No

[brave steeple]

japan kx has 3 paths not 2 has more content and better faction paths

[brave steeple]

kr has 2 which kx has built on

[opal nymph]

Japan in KR is lacking

[brave steeple]

yea

canada

is also

pain

[opal nymph]

Transamur in KR got taken to the back of the barn

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[brave steeple]

yuyyan having a better focus tree than canada is absurd

also kx mongolia is actually amazing

[opal nymph]

They gave Canada NEW content in latest update

[brave steeple]

a real historical guy who said he was the reincarnation of gengis khan

hes historical

[opal nymph]

You can now be paternal autocrat now

That's it

[brave steeple]

oh yea these FOUR WHOLE FOCUSES

[opal nymph]

Wdym 4

[brave steeple]

yea 4

[opal nymph]

They added only 1

Silly

[brave steeple]

pretty sur eits 4

i havent oplayed kr in ages tho

[opal nymph]

That path already existed

[brave steeple]

since i play kx

[opal nymph]

They changed the lore a bit

Now instead of royal prerogatives, it is a union government or exiles take control

[brave steeple]

idk why kr cares about the lore so much

its cool

but also

[opal nymph]

L O R E

Muh story

[brave steeple]

you want lore

suzerain

every company has lore

[opal nymph]

Suzerain is alright

[brave steeple]

must kill every BFF insurgency agent funded by rumberg

[opal nymph]

I did everything well, except I blew up the economy because I thought debt was fake

[brave steeple]

i need to take pales

[opal nymph]

And I died to Rumberg

I gambled in an offensive and died

Peak gaming

[brave steeple]

which is pronounced 'pal-a' rhymes with ballet

this is a line

from the rizian eco minister

when the leader of sordland calls the rizian eco minister a old hag

[opal nymph]

I should have went free market eco

I might have been in less debt

[brave steeple]

i went planned

[opal nymph]

So did i

But i thought debt was a myth

[brave steeple]

also

i went to parliament

[opal nymph]

I only have base game

[brave steeple]

and titus arrested me

[brave steeple]

get rizia

its SO MUHC BETTER

sordland is kinda mid

but rizia you get to do stuff

[opal nymph]

But I made an epic democracy

[brave steeple]

like build a factory

[opal nymph]

That crashed the economy

[opal nymph]

I learned i cannot economy to save my life

[brave steeple]

monarchy to democracy

[opal nymph]

Based

[brave steeple]

i know how to eco

[opal nymph]

But I can politic to save my life

[opal nymph]

I was a very passive reformist

Like a ton of compromises

But democracy

[brave steeple]

i will admit i am not great at passing reforms

and my party kinda screwed me up

for doing that

[opal nymph]

I accepted gradual reform and everyone liked me (except the nationalists)

[brave steeple]

i tried removing article 6 and 7*

not adding it

i also went full radical so final straw

[amber matrix]

Real life is free btw

[brave steeple]

i still got the location of ALL of the BFF

[brave steeple]

yes it lets you play suzerain

[opal nymph]

I gave them autonomy

[brave steeple]

arrested everyone

[silk gust]

The Russian empire can’t counter my full artillery divisions

[opal nymph]

They liked me

Until I died

[brave steeple]

????

is this a mod

[brave steeple]

how

[opal nymph]

Yes

[brave steeple]

oh yea rumbberg

[silk gust]

Yes

[brave steeple]

oh

[silk gust]

The Great War redux

[opal nymph]

I crashed the economy as well

[amber matrix]

Guys i finally went around 16 maginots

[opal nymph]

I am a diplomat not an economist

[brave steeple]

i also ended up having this happen

[opal nymph]

I felt bad for not picking Lucian as VP

[amber matrix]

France meat grinder

[opal nymph]

I tried to get the reformist wing of the party on my side

Lucian is the GOAT

[brave steeple]

if you beat him at chess he doesnt oust you

[silk gust]

How am I able to push this dawg

[opal nymph]

I dont remember ever playing chess with him

[brave steeple]

you can decline it btw

rizian achievements

[copper sluice]

damn

[amber matrix]

Reverse Schlieffen

[brave steeple]

i think we should talk about hoi4

[silk gust]

But for some reason the UK never joined the war after I killed Belgium so I might naval invade France

[opal nymph]

Yeah

[brave steeple]

suzerain is peak

tho

[opal nymph]

Suzerain mod when lmao

[amber matrix]

He thinks hes tuff

Guys are war bonds good?

[brave steeple]

i mean he IS about to reinstate THE soviet russia

[opal nymph]

Until they give debuffs by repeating the decision, yeah

[silk gust]

My divisions are so good I’m just battle planning this

[opal nymph]

Might as well if you have 2000 pp

[opal nymph]

Muh democracy

[amber matrix]

Its 10 oct 1939 and im already going around the maginot

🥹

[opal nymph]

Nice

[amber matrix]

(Everyone is at war with me)

[opal nymph]

Get that Pure Blitzkrieg achievement

[silk gust]

Damn

[winter fulcrum]

thats alot of red bubbles...

[amber matrix]

Switzerlnad

Is at war with me

[opal nymph]

Berlin Mosxow Axis is so lame

[silk gust]

That will turn green

[fair horizon]

chat does anyone here build battlecruisers?

[opal nymph]

Heavy ship hull, battlecruiser armor

Not worth it

[silk gust]

It’s only 1914 too

[amber matrix]

The real question is if ANYONE at all knows Navy

🥰

[silk gust]

Nah

[opal nymph]

Just build battleships if you want heavy ships

Battlecruisers dont gain any benefits basically from the weaker armor

[amber matrix]

Submarines are by far the best but ur choice

[fair horizon]

i know that but i was wondering if anyone does it

[brave steeple]

build ships

sink enemy ships

[fair horizon]

i do, spam cruiser

[opal nymph]

Me when I have my ASW task force wipe you off the face of the planet

[fair horizon]

also carriers because carriers ❤️

[brave steeple]

i think i know better tho

you spam

thats it

[amber matrix]

Against ai

[brave steeple]

thats all you do

[amber matrix]

I meant

[fair horizon]

british destroyers in question:

[opal nymph]

I had 8 task forces of an escort carrier, spotting heavy cruiser, some destroyers, and seaplane tenders and they SMOKED the Japanese navy

Because they could also deal with screens as well

[fair horizon]

i always turn my heavy cruisers into spotting cruisers

waste of a ship tbh

no clue why anyone built them smh

[opal nymph]

They provided a screen for my carrier

Heavy Cruisers are supposed to be cruiser killers

[amber matrix]

I dont even know what navy is

[opal nymph]

But they can't in this game because heavies are capitals and lights are screens

[opal dust]

No on does

[amber matrix]

Im bad

[fair horizon]

good thing they are basically worthless at that

[amber matrix]

How many hours do you guys have

[opal nymph]

Watch some documentaries on the pacific theater and become a naval expert in a few episodes in

[opal nymph]

Over 2k, but i understood navy before 1k

[opal dust]

Eh about 187

[tawny lake]

671 hours

[amber matrix]

Oh yeah? I have much better

[fair horizon]

around 1k but navy is the only thing i really do in the game

[amber matrix]

50 hours 🔥🔥🔥

[opal dust]

I really like this game

[opal nymph]

Navy is fun

Fleet go smash

[tawny lake]

the true lion does not care about navy

[opal nymph]

Just because you have a skill issue doesn't mean you cant find enjoyment from boats sinking each other

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314432842356228115/1434311705697058888/tenor.gif

[fair horizon]

sure green bubbles are nice and all but seeing an enemy navy sink? thats pure bliss right there

[opal nymph]

I like to see pictures of the enemy boats go from the top half of the screen to the bottom half

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179626157876977705/1449523872016896223/snaplytics_converted_gif_4.gif

can we talk about hoi4

[opal dust]

I don’t even know how I got the Persian dlc

[brave steeple]

in the hoi4 general

[opal dust]

It just appeared on my screen

[opal nymph]

Expansion Pass 1

[brave steeple]

wish u could refund dlcs with less than 2 hours with the new dlc

[silk gust]

THE RUSSIAN CAPITAL IS GERMAN

[opal nymph]

I got the crap DLC for free

I spent 30 some dollars on Ride of the Valkyries

[brave steeple]

would let you test out how bad the new dlc is so you dont get scammed by a horrid dlc

[opal dust]

I just use the google playback

Google music is better

[tawny lake]

they are taking it

defend it with yo whole life

[silk gust]

Yea

[opal nymph]

Main reason i got the first expansion pass https://youtu.be/31Yn-Uacb5M

[silk gust]

State of Europe in 1915

[opal nymph]

It isnt self promo if it relates to the discussion

[opal dust]

If it’s an option I always form the German empire rather then the greater German Reich

[silk gust]

I don’t think the Russians are gonna have a good time

[opal dust]

The Kaiserreich will *alwahs£ be better then the Nazis

[opal nymph]

What is that guy going to do

[fair horizon]

im stealing this idea and you cant stop me

[opal nymph]

The US government stole my idea

[silk gust]

He is the reason Soviet Union exists

[amber matrix]

Are the Reichkommisarats worth it

[opal nymph]

Like literally, ish

[fair horizon]

also im 1k hours into hoi4 and cant figure out paratroopers 😭

[opal dust]

Nein

[opal nymph]

Those troops cant paradrop

[amber matrix]

Im 50 hours in and i can

[opal nymph]

You cant paradrop with helicopters

[amber matrix]

😭

[silk gust]

You just get transport planes and green air

[fair horizon]

yeah but i cant figure them out either

like real ones

[opal dust]

I just like making puppets because idk it’s a thing I like

[fair horizon]

me when i naval

i had that crap figured out in my first game

[opal dust]

I learned hoi4 from YouTubers

[opal nymph]

Like putting helicopters in divisions makes them unable to be paradropped

[fair horizon]

lame

[opal nymph]

This

Also fun fact, helicopters without the speed upgrade go 10 km/h

My mechanized and armored cars went 20 km/h

[opal dust]

Did you guys know

That in ww2

The Italians lost to Greece

[silk gust]

Pretty accurate in hoi4 too

[opal nymph]

Well, they stalemated after losing ground

Close enough

[opal dust]

Does anyone even play as Greece or turkey in hoi4

I tried it and it sucks

[opal nymph]

I have played Greece

Historical Greece

Good enough survival challenge 4/10

[opal dust]

I played historical Hungary and had fun

[opal nymph]

Hungary with GDR tree is PEAK

Except horthy monarchy path

That path SUCKS

But the portrait is funny

[opal dust]

I wonder if any devs are watching us

[opal nymph]

Hoi4 focus trees peaked at GDR

[opal dust]

Whenever I play as France I do Napoleon path

AY

MR DEV PERSON

ADD LIECHTENSTEIN

AND MY 50 DOLLARS SHALL BE YOURS

[silk gust]

Now that’s beautiful

[opal dust]

There is always pride before the fall

[silk gust]

The Russians gave up

[restive sable]

agreed

hungary especially is so fun

[warped flint]

Okay im gonna give this 1 more shot, I need to remember to defend hamedan this time, I will make sure to nuke iraq as much as I can to get revenge

[fair horizon]

which country?

[warped flint]

Poland

im trying to get wojtek

I wasted like 4 hours

cause iraq took hamadan as I was taking toscany

[amber matrix]

Bro is America

[warped flint]

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-speed-tried-not-to-laugh-ishowspeed-tiktok-gif-10902436083761798311

[amber matrix]

who is this (i dont have the meme so just imagine it)

[warped flint]

I got you bro

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1287305664925798493/1451842360605671557/convert.gif

Is this what you mean

[silk gust]

Poor Romania doesn’t know what’s gonna happen when he joins the entente

[warped flint]

how do you intend on defendingagainst romania?

Romania will steal your industry

and guns

[silk gust]

Idk

[dusky burrow]

finish the russians

oh never mind

[silk gust]

How tf am I supposed to break this?

[dusky burrow]

Can you naval invade Britain?

[copper sluice]

bro how tf do I have no war score in all of these wars I am literally fighting alone

[dusky burrow]

If no then what do your divisions look like

[dusky burrow]

clearly the US was also involved

[silk gust]

Yes but I’m waiting for transport tech to be finished

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

When will it be done

[silk gust]

107days

[dusky burrow]

What date is it

[silk gust]

I can massed produce these things

[dusky burrow]

You need org

[silk gust]

Also it’s 1916

[dusky burrow]

Replace half of the field guns with infantry

[silk gust]

These are just my arty diva

[dusky burrow]

If you're naval invading Britain, you will be counterattacked

[silk gust]

This is my man

Main

[dusky burrow]

That'd work in southern Britain

[silk gust]

Alright

[dusky burrow]

So you'd stop south of Newcastle and then send in your mountain divisions

Also what ww1 mod is this

[silk gust]

This is my navy

The Great War redux

And the expanded Great War

[dusky burrow]

What's this then?

[silk gust]

Light infantry

[dusky burrow]

Also add flamethrowers and stormtroopers

[silk gust]

Okay

[dusky burrow]

Plus probably some super-heavy artillery if you got that

[silk gust]

Alright thanks

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[copper sluice]

idk why I cant have allies in this campaign

everyone hates me

[dusky burrow]

Oh that's rough

Still doable

[tulip thorn]

Thats just what happens when you play anarchist spain

Your not meant to have allies

[dusky burrow]

spain has not allies, but interests

[cedar lance]

hello

[dusky burrow]

hello

[winter fulcrum]

im gonna have to micro-manage ALOT

[copper sluice]

I am also fighting the soviets tho

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[dusky burrow]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[winter fulcrum]

im quitting this run

i had to carry the germans and mexicans into america because they were so horrible at holding it, and then after i start getting into main america, germany declares war

[copper cobalt]

That's why you always take the germs out as the Soviets before going against any other major

Also you could just defend a mexican port and leave to sort out the axis

Then return

[digital aurora]

I have almost kicked the allies out of Africa fully! I just need to push them back out of asia

Or i could declare war on them to puppet them at this point but that could end badly, i have also run out of generals and field marshals

Except there is just one task force in the Med Harassing my convoys that i have been striking constantly, They can't leave either since i have Gibraltar and the Suez Canal

[fair horizon]

MORE PLANES

[misty fossil]

bro forgot to navy

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that can help

This is ww1 mod though so your planes have like 2 cas damage

[quasi osprey]

If germany takes over the soviets do they usually win over the other countries like Britain and usa?

Considering its 1944 and usa isn't in the allies

And the British d day failed

[dusky burrow]

It'd take a long time, but probably yes

[quasi osprey]

And africa is controlled by the axis

[dusky burrow]

actually 50/50

[quasi osprey]

Why where does it usually fail

[viscid stirrup]

Yo yo yo wassup chat

[viscid stirrup]

No

[quasi osprey]

Why

[viscid stirrup]

Theyll always lose their navy

If its ai

[fair horizon]

oh so no real pushing then

[viscid stirrup]

Better backstab them

[fair horizon]

trench warfare

[quasi osprey]

Well firstly the British don't have access to the Mediterranean and India is axis

And canada is almost axis

It's in a civil war

[viscid stirrup]

How do you think the ai is going to destroy the allied navy

[quasi osprey]

Well idk about that but britain now doesn't have that much manpower

Without canada and india

And africa

[viscid stirrup]

Uk can scrape the barrel

And they will once they run out of manpower

[quasi osprey]

🤷 true

[viscid stirrup]

So no, axis wont win

Backstab germany

[quasi osprey]

Only when I see its failing

I have only 80 divs

[viscid stirrup]

Bro bootlicking the germans wont get you anywhere

[quasi osprey]

40 of wich are in europe

[dusky burrow]

well then they're bust

[viscid stirrup]

Backstabbing them will give you all of afro-eurasia

[dusky burrow]

germany will die if they don't push, its hardcodede in gwr

[viscid stirrup]

Only?

I once defeated germany as tanna tuva with 40 divisions

[dusky burrow]

If you have 80 high quality special forces divisions as Britain, Germany's toast

[viscid stirrup]

If you have 2 divisions and a short enough front you can defeat germany

Just backstab

Anything works against clankers

[dusky burrow]

The Danish front would be ideal for that

As Britain you should probably stop France from falling, but if that fails you naval invade their protectorate and then enter Germany through the north

[quasi osprey]

Well I am spain with 80 quite bad divisions and tonnes of german divisions in my territory and next to me

And a weak industry

[dusky burrow]

what do your divisions look like

[supple summit]

left on read

[viscid stirrup]

Attack

Backstab

[quasi osprey]

Standart

😕

Germany has more forces on my land than I do

[dusky burrow]

what do you mean by standart? can you give me a screenshot?

[supple summit]

probably means the spanish divisions right after the spanish civil war untouched

[quasi osprey]

I cant rn but just 6 or 9 infantry in 1 div

[dusky burrow]

Oh

Oof

[quasi osprey]

Yes I am quite new at the game so I forget to make them better and well my industry doesn't really allow me to make it much better

[dusky burrow]

The Pyrenees are a relatively defensive border, you can afford stronger infantry divisions I think

[supple summit]

easily yes

[dusky burrow]

If you have 35 21/0s instead of 80 6/0s that might be enough to hold the Germans

80 6/0s could probably also hold off the germans too

[quasi osprey]

Well I will make a save and try to be allied with the Germans if that fails I will just retry and attack the Germans instead

[supple summit]

attacking germany is not a good idea

but if you are

then dont attack them when you declare war

let them attack you and let them drain manpower and equipment on you

when you see their little orange bar (equipment bar or whatever) go down to like half or lower then thats a good time to attack

[quasi osprey]

Well for now idk why the axis look way more stronger than the allies

[supple summit]

thats normal

[quasi osprey]

And its 1944

[dusky burrow]

What?!

[supple summit]

are you on historical?

[quasi osprey]

Yes

[dusky burrow]

Are the Soviets defeated?

[quasi osprey]

Yes

[supple summit]

bruh

[quasi osprey]

And india

And almost canada

[dusky burrow]

who's defeating Canada

[quasi osprey]

Civil war fascists

[supple summit]

then its not historical

lol

[quasi osprey]

No I just increased their support

[supple summit]

oh?

then mb

[quasi osprey]

And organised the civil war

[supple summit]

well if thats the case for germany

take over port

[quasi osprey]

For canada and turkey who is already fascist rn

[supple summit]

wait no

actually ignore what i was about to say for portugal

[tulip thorn]

Good old pre la resistance party boosting and coups

[quasi osprey]

Portugal is gone already

It's controlled by me

[supple summit]

alright thats atleast good to hear

also i recommend disbanding a few of your 6 inf divisions and then turn them all into your 9 inf ones

its optional but i recommend it

[quasi osprey]

The Mediterranean and africa are completely controlled by axis except for cyprus

[supple summit]

huh

idk what you did but it just caused the thousand week reich lol

[quasi osprey]

Also peru and Venezuela are axis

But thats quite normal

[supple summit]

they never really join the axis

i actually dont think ive ever seen them join the axis

[quasi osprey]

Bruh I didn't do that much why did this happen

Well I sent 11 divs to africa and
6 divs to the soviets and organised coups in turkey and canada

And took gibraltar

[supple summit]

very nice

[quasi osprey]

Probably an important factor was that italy somehow was very powerful in africa

Oh and also japan just rolling over the soviets in siberia

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-sparkle-wave-cute-mlp-my-little-pony-gif-8814149759150757043

[cedar lance]

i need to buy a new Better BIGGER hard drive

maybe like between 5tb 10tb or more

@tulip thorn

[tulip thorn]

yeah?

[cedar lance]

which hard drive is better?

[tulip thorn]

Idk

[cedar lance]

alr

[crude schooner]

Equestria at war reference???

[tulip thorn]

yes

[viscid stirrup]

eaw is so peak

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-winter-clothes-marshmallow-my-little-pony-cozy-glow-gif-15682607

[viscid stirrup]

it should be integrated into the base game

[limpid field]

partition of romania during the ww2

sadly forgot dobrudja andsouthern bessarabia

[cedar lance]

im gonna build a massive GRAND Army navy and airforce as estonia

im gonna use and utilise the Special projects i want do

[light nova]

ahh partition

[cedar lance]

i always annex the Baltics finland and sweden as Estonia

[tulip thorn]

So little manpower at extensive. How sad.

[opaque mulch]

i think they're pretending they have democracy

[tulip thorn]

Looks democratic to me

[opaque mulch]

well they chose fascism themselves soo

[tulip thorn]

Finland might just be the most fun nation in hoi4

[opaque mulch]

why

[tulip thorn]

Causing 4m casualties to the soviets is so satisfying

The soviets have 0 manpower on extensive

Only 270 divisions

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[inland zealot]

how much air did u have tho

[cedar lance]

🇪🇪 tore down what took CENTURIES To BUILD

[tulip thorn]

0

Im finland gng

Not making an airforce by the winter war

[inland zealot]

okay

js asking bc soviets didnt have air and i found it weird

[cedar lance]

i always build ALL land navy and airforce techs and equipments as Estonia

[cedar lance]

@tulip thorn whatcu think?

[tulip thorn]

idk

[cedar lance]

alr

[weary estuary]

Can someone explain to me why I cannot trade with Germany as Slovakia? I am not a puppet, but it says Germany has its trade routes blocked which is weird cause I share a border with them

I am confused

[eternal palm]

Where is Germanys capital located

[weary estuary]

Berlin

[eternal palm]

And your capital and Germanys capital have a connection via land border?

Show screenshot

[weary estuary]

It shows no connection to anywhere at all

[eternal palm]

Maybe they embargo you?

[eternal palm]

No no show me a screenshot of your map

You cant really see land connections via trade

[weary estuary]

Is the problem that I’m landlocked or smth

I can’t really screenshot I’m on my phone

[eternal palm]

Do it when you're in game

[eternal palm]

Landlocked nations are able to trade with other nations over land

🤷‍♂️

Hence I asked if you are embargoed

Or the nation the trade is supposed to go through has embargoed Germany

That's the only reason I can think of

[sharp ginkgo]

i think i did pretty good this run all things considered

i fought off the japanese long enough for the US to join the war and naval invade japan, then got dragged into a war with the comintern and got over 50% of the war effort

5m+ soviets killed 🔥

[cedar lance]

jesus nice

[sharp ginkgo]

best i've ever done

i love this game

[opaque mulch]

why do i need convoys? my country doesnt even have sea access, or do the convoys have wheels?

[eternal palm]

For supply, apparently

Your units are sitting on a port and wanna use convoys instead of rails

I love this mechanic

[opaque mulch]

ikr, thats why my 4 research facilities dont work at 101% efficiency

[lethal ether]

can anyone give me good navy templates

[tulip thorn]

I love that you own all of the soviet union, but not all of china

[opaque mulch]

they didnt leave switzerland bro 😭 \

[lethal ether]

thank you

[agile trellis]

I havent played this game in months

Why cant i access sea regions ?

I asked for naval rights in saudi tho i cant raid convoys because i have no access to the sea ?

Nvm i did it

Ffs why did they f up the navy

[eternal palm]

Oh yea so there's a new mechanic with home bases, where you only get range from a single port instead of all of them

So you have to set your home base every time you want to go to a spot that's out of range of your current base

[agile trellis]

And the audacity THEY REMOVED HIROHITO PICTURE FRON JAPAN

[eternal palm]

Naval range actually matters now yaaaay

[eternal palm]

Oh shit its you

[supple summit]

theres a mod that adds it back

its peak

[eternal palm]

I didn't even realise

[agile trellis]

Name?

[agile trellis]

Who?

[supple summit]

shit i needa find it

[agile trellis]

Oh yea the bittersteel guy

[supple summit]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3609499220&searchtext=old+horihito

bruh

this looks like an ip grabber

💔

[eternal palm]

Makes it sounds like I know him

[supple summit]

but to put it simple its called Old Horihito

[eternal palm]

I think I talked to him like once 5 years ago

But he definitely doesn't know me

[opaque mulch]

jit forgot to research the bolt size

[eternal palm]

Why would you ever research these 😭

[opaque mulch]

i wanna see how much i can defend switzerland so range doesnt matter for me

also i forgor to research any airframes

[jaunty delta]

wunderwaffe 🥺

[eternal palm]

Nazi larp 🥱

[atomic grove]

it feels strange to see xibei san ma and sinkiang have their old borders in vanilla

[sharp ginkgo]

lol

[agile trellis]

It was last year bruh 😭

[sharp ginkgo]

i was thinking about trying to do one china policy and the stuff but for some reason the US is planning a nuclear raid on moscow and puppeted japan is trying to invade australia

[eternal palm]

Wdym?

I meant bittersteel

Not you

[agile trellis]

Nah i already knew u but i thought u already knew me

[agile trellis]

Ah

[eternal palm]

I know you

[agile trellis]

Nice

[eternal palm]

Nuh uh

😠

[agile trellis]

[quasi osprey]

is this good for 1945?

[swift egret]

Can anybody play with me im kinda new and want my
first world conquest

[quasi osprey]

I am new as well but I somehow managed to help establish the thousand week reich😂

[swift egret]

Could we maybe play togeter im good in micro just not good in doing everything at once

[quasi osprey]

I never played in multiplayer but I can try

[swift egret]

I can play in 10 min or so

[quasi osprey]

ok

[swift egret]

Also got any dlcs or mods enabled i dont

[quasi osprey]

how to disable them just I got about 4 dlc s

[swift egret]

Go privaye chat

[opaque mulch]

the heck is this poland

[sudden thistle]

Keep in mind, whatever DLC’s the host has, are the dlc that will be used for the game

[lilac glen]

Is it normal for the Germany vs USSR war to be a huge drag?

[tulip thorn]

yes

[lilac glen]

What do you do in the mean time?

Just wait?

I will probably wait a lot

I am really freaking underpowered rn

Barely 2 units by state

[toxic cypress]

someone with mega brain please help

how do i get manchuria

no molre nations have war goals

and world tension is in negative

germany and russia both declared war on allies again and it still 0

i can only declare on siam but my navy is like 20 ships so its not like i can take em

[gentle briar]

should i join i dont know if we will win tbh

[quasi osprey]

btw its 1946

is the uk cooked

[orchid vine]

gk

gl

[mild musk]

bro get rid of this "expansion pass 2" pfp on the server it's been a month and pissing me off bruh let it go, switch back to default

[quasi osprey]

The best kind of ireland

😂

[snow rain]

yeah it's so bad as a logo

[rose rain]

wassup guys

[quasi osprey]

Greater german ireland

[mild musk]

fr

[queen bronze]

ngl. its screwed up that you cant attack from a neutral country. i planned to go thru russia with my german troops, thru iran and iraq into africa.
but noooo i waste all that friggin time moving troops, i declare war. boom. nope cant attack thru russia cause its neutral. as if hitler wouldve given a single flip about that

[snow rain]

no it's not. This is a great thing that you can't attack from neutral land.
It used to be possible and it was just a pure pain in the ass with the AI getting military access on anyone and everyone and you just couldn't leave any border open
Busy microing barb front ? Too bad you didn't keep a 6 divs on sweden border, now the entire uk army is in denmark
Want to attack malaya as japan ? I hope you like having to garrison the whole soviet border because US and RAJ will go through it

It was an horrific mechanic and they rightfully removed it

[queen bronze]

i understand from a gameplay perspective.
but from a strategy perspective, its mid asf.
in reality, theres no reason that couldnt happen. im not looking to play the game to abuse mechanics and "exploits" im playing to use strategy to win.

and no, USA wouldnt go thru the soviet border most likely at least when the soviets were neutral, as they didnt like eachother. so soviets just wouldnt let the US in (historically speaking)

so like, yea in some ways it could be a problem but theres numerous ways it wouldnt.

if denmark never lets the brits thru, then youre fine. if they realistically would, you better be careful

[snow rain]

in reality, armies couldn't just deploy in irak from germany to invade UK egypt without Uk noticing and putting troops on the iraki border. Irl, Uk would also simply delcare war on irak if that happened. Irl no country would just let a foreingn army wage war on their soil if they're not even in that war to begin with

in the end, it's a funny map game made to be fun to play. And I guarantee that having AI using mil access to open endless front is NOT FUN
As we usually say, been there, done that, didn't work

[queen bronze]

they wouldnt have to let them wage war on their soil tho. im attacking from russia. not defending.

and yes. the UK would notice thats the point. it doesnt change what i think

[vital cove]

yeah that won't happen irl

if an enemy is attacking a country through another country

they will consider the country they're attacked from as an enemy

[queen bronze]

its iraq. there would be no iraq to view russia as the enemy in a week.

[vital cove]

Russia would not let Germany attack through it if it didn't want to be at war with iraq. if it did want to be in war, it'd declare war on iraq and then you wouldn't have that issue

[queen bronze]

russia cares nothing of iraq or not. if they want to allow my troops to go thru their country, why do they care if i go into iraq

[vital cove]

because that would count as declaration of war? and it would get them at war with anyone affected?

[queen bronze]

how. russia didnt fire a single shot

[vital cove]

if china sent soldiers to Canada and attacked the US, do you think the US would just let Canada keep existing like nothing happened

[queen bronze]

why would canada let chinese soldiers in

also thats hardly an iraq/USSR comparison

[vital cove]

do you know what an example is

[queen bronze]

yes. and im asking you. in your example. why would canada allow that

are they compromised somehow? allied with china? etc

[vital cove]

they decided to ally china for whatever reason

[queen bronze]

then canada is an enemy to the US regardless of chinese troops in canada or not

[vital cove]

the world does not work in hoi4 mechanics bro

[queen bronze]

... thats literally my point

[vital cove]

no that's clearly not clear enough

[snow rain]

then if soviet troops go into irak to invade brittish egypt it makes iraq an enemy of uk so uk would declare war
same as if canada allowed chinese troops to attack us through them

in the end it's a funny map game made to have fun and as I said, attacking from neutral country is NOT FUN

[queen bronze]

soviet troops arent going anywhere... what part of "the soviets are neutral" did you miss

oh i see youre using a different example. my bad

[snow rain]

soviets, german it doesn't matter, the situation's the same

[queen bronze]

if soviets go into iraq because iraq lets them, and the soviets invade egypt, assuming egypt is gone, then tf are the brits gonna do to iraq. go thru india ig for that specific case but that would be an issue for iraq regardless of if the soviets just declared war on them for that goal anyway

if you dont want to be attacked by someone whos enemies of your ally, dont be allies with the ally.

you dont see the US letting troops in willy nilly. and we dont have the issue of people getting mad that we did. same with like. most 1st world countries tbh.

[toxic cypress]

if america joins

its good

[snow rain]

they'd declare war on irak the second soviets cross the border from there

Imagine the situation where UK pushes soviet back to the border, what are they gonna do ? just wait while the soviets can freely retreat and reorganize ? Aren't they gonna bomb the enemy's airfield and supply lines while the soviet do ?
that's just plain stupid

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/murica-merica-america-usa-us-gif-4163007710547964960

[vital cove]

if you need an irl example of a similar case. Greece in ww2 was neutral most of the war, there were allied forces there, but they didn't attack through there because Greece is neutral

you don't attack through neutral country

that counts as that country participating in the war

[queen bronze]

as my very first point states, in the case of germany going thru russia, im literally hitler in that case. he wouldnt care

[vital cove]

yeah bro that's not how that works

this is a game

ypu can't follow that logic

and

if Hitler didn't care

then he'd get into trouble with Russia

[queen bronze]

yes. that doesnt change the fact that it wouldnt stop him most likely

[vital cove]

they wouldn't just let him do whatever he wants in their territory

[snow rain]

but uk would
and iraq would go to war
and if iraq doesn't want to go to war, they wouldn't let you attack from there

simple as

[vital cove]

Russia irl would not really let Germany move troops through them in most cases so

[queen bronze]

im saying that its dumb to make that a non option because its not really not one

[queen bronze]

all the more to my point

[vital cove]

the whole discussion doesn't even start

[snow rain]

also yeah, as pointed out, neither soviets, nor iran nor iraq in their right mind would let a massive army march into their territory without an active threat of invasion or the need for foreign military support

[queen bronze]

i already made that exact point too

[snow rain]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-i-will-not-interact-gif-9380134741995340701

[viscid stirrup]

that is NOT true

[vital cove]

1. Hitler didn't ignore diplomatics and did whatever ge wanted.
2. if he did do that, the game would be just dumb, because you would just do anything in justification of "hitler wouldn't care" and then you would need to implement similar rules for other leaders who wouldn't care? and decide who care and who can't? start having psychological profile for each leader? yeah no

[vapid cradle]

been a while since i last played, i played germany and i freestyled everything, last times i played i always followed tutorials side by side, uk made my entire navy dissapear, and i cant even get air superiority for paratroopers, whats the play i actually dont know

[queen bronze]

its literally not ragebait. if its a strat that can happen irl, then i dont see why it shouldnt be accessible within a strategy game
within reason ofc but like this is a fairly big one that isnt that weird
i mean u can literally nuke everywhere. hardly realistic there right?

[vital cove]

we gave you both the reasons it doesn't make sense neither irl nor in game

[queen bronze]

hitler literally did go wherever he wanted before the war started. thats whtat started the war.

as for the 2nd point it doesnt require anything character game side as its the player deciding it

[queen bronze]

and i countered all those reasons

[vital cove]

if he did whatever he wanted, he would do anchluss, sudetenland, and annex Czechoslovakia on 1933

but he didn't, he used diplomatics

[queen bronze]

til he didnt get what he wanted handed to him on a silver plater

[vital cove]

he didn't simply just completely ignore anything and anyone, because that would get him into war with everyone

[queen bronze]

and. it literally did

[vital cove]

no it didn't. not everyone and not all at once

[queen bronze]

right. they just call it "world" war two for fun

[vital cove]

his allies were doing many things he wasn't happy with

[vital cove]

oh yes, they call it that because on 1939, every country in the world declared war on Germany

no? not what happened?

[queen bronze]

where did i ever say that was the case?

[vital cove]

they had allies? they had no aggression pacts?

they cooperated with the Soviet union?

[snow rain]

stalin, iran and iraq faces when they got asked to let 1 million german armed men go through their territory, use and requisition all infrastructure on the route for supply and set up logistical bases along the way to supply a war and definitely not overthow some countries on the way and while definitely not creating a diplomatic incident with the UK that has the power to completely blocade them from the sea and bomb them into the ground

Also live UK reaction when they aren't allowed to bomb german planes, airbases, logistical route and can't chase the running german army through the iraki border because irak's apparently neutral (they can't declare war since irak didn't generate any world tension)

realism my ass

[queen bronze]

i never asked for realism. i said the ability to use a strat that would actually exist. instead of some rule randomly showing up that says "no"

[snow rain]

no it couldn't exist, because it doesn't make sense for realism purposes and it doesn't make sense for game purposes as per my previous messages

[queen bronze]

and as per my response to such messages, i showed literally exactly how it makes sense. you even agreed to some of those ways

[vital cove]

yeah no this is bait

im done

[queen bronze]

if canada doesnt want to be accused of being an enemy of america, it wont let americas enemies (china) in.
if soviets dont want to be iraqs enemy (they literally wouldnt care as iraq is an ant) they wouldnt let germany in
its that simple

[snow rain]

the only thing that I agreed on is the fact that it's a map game in the end and so, since a game is supposed to be fun, reintroducing a mechanic that was removed because it is not fun is a downright stupid idea

and you didn't show how it make sense either. I agree with haafr, it must be bait at this point

[queen bronze]

right here. literally the 2nd message you agreed with me

"bait" you say, as you agreed with my point. but you dont want it in the game, so you pretend you disagree.

[vital cove]

this is a valid point, but the answer is that there's no way to program giving access only when necessary and realistic to give access

so it had to be simplified to yes/no military access

tho tbh when only historical game it wouldn't make a difference if you could only access faction members

[queen bronze]

i get that.
i somewhat disagree that thers "no way" but ofc im no game maker. so yknow

[snow rain]

you say there's no reason it couldn't happen
I say it can't happen because such an action would create a state of war with the country where the troops are coming from which would render this whole principle of attacking through neutral land inexistant since there would be war
This. Is. Bait

[vital cove]

ig it would matter for Germany and Finland?

but it for sure would make the game a whole let more annoying for anything but pure historical

[queen bronze]

germany says "hey russia. let me in"
russia says yes
germany attacks iraq
iraq gets angry at russia for letting us in
oh. wait. its literally a parking lot so it cant do anything

alternatively

china says "hey canada. let me in"
canada says yes
the US says. bruh wtf man. why you helping my enemy if youre neutral
it declares war on canada before a single chinese troop steps foot in canada

or

canada says no
china says. bruh wtf man. and invades canada so they can attack the US

either way, canada loses here.

well technically not as the US would help canada against china. but atp, canada isnt neutral. thats what i mean by "lose" in that sense

[misty fossil]

the existence of cisleithana and transleithana implies the existence of nonbinaryleithana

[vital cove]

i gave you the Greece in ww1 example

im sure you can find more

its not simple black and white

[queen bronze]

if greece had been any closer to germany, and germany hadnt been fighting on like 20 fronts, they wouldve been next tho.

[vital cove]

ah yes Germany was the only one on the central powers side in ww1

[snow rain]

I'm done, it's a stupid idea for a stupid mechanic that was rightfully removed from the game nearly 10 years ago
It shouldn't come back and there's no reason to even consider it, especially not in the ww2 simulator game that hoi4

[queen bronze]

ah my bad my brain was still in ww2.

[vital cove]

Greece was right between the ottomans and Austria Hungary

[queen bronze]

yea

thats my bad

[misty fossil]

20? they would only be fighting 6 fronts instead of 7

[lapis sun]

sa turk varmı

[hollow narwhal]

interesting decision

oh also 💀

[coral gorge]

lmao I am having an actual Taiwan problem

[ripe slate]

@wind robin#server-rules

[pale flare]

daz a lot of tanks

[coral gorge]

fk

I have like

no focus to go to war with Taiwan

and justification takes 10 days

someone will guarantee them

Japan is democratic ☠️

wtf is this

☠️

[green lodge]

UH i started a war with germany as poland, forgot about pomerania and now i'm getting fuccked from both sides
Reset ?

[cedar lance]

are Modern and mbt tanks good to use?

[green lodge]

mbt ?

[coral gorge]

main bttle tank

[cedar lance]

Main battle tank

[coral gorge]

well they re alright

you get high reliability so they break less

[green lodge]

uh dunno wat that is
i haven't gotten past 1940 yet

[coral gorge]

can equip big guns despite being "medium" by rchetype

main issue is probbly production

[cedar lance]

oh alr

[coral gorge]

otherwise they are fine

[cedar lance]

i do wanna add MBTs as its own tech equipment and sub unit and template

[coral gorge]

oh, I managed to take Taiwan

time to restore democracy

[pseudo raven]

which ships i should focus on as Sweden?

starting options

[coral gorge]

if you fight Britain then get either cruisers or submrines

[pseudo raven]

no havy ships?

[coral gorge]

nah

they cost too much nd you don't even hve enough screenships

[pseudo raven]

so destroyer and cruiser stack

[cedar lance]

what yalls think bout this idea?

[pseudo raven]

bcs this is nice

[sudden thistle]

Cruisers

Trust

[pseudo raven]

i will do torpedo destroyers and cruisers

aiming to steal warscore from axis

because sunk fleet gives really grate warscore

[grand bear]

i use ts is my templates✌️🥀

[pseudo raven]

is capital ships buff working on cruisers?

[sudden thistle]

No

Gets the screen buff though

[coral gorge]

for heavy cruisers, yes

[pseudo raven]

worth it or naval reformer for better ship template and oficer corp buffs

[coral gorge]

victory for democracy

Japan is so poor wow

[pseudo raven]

i done tactical bomber usa

joined comintern

and starved to death german troops

[pseudo raven]

i love this focus

[ripe slate]

I always found it odd that befriend Poland isnt first

pretty sure I swapped the two in Road

[jaunty delta]

brother what

why cant i paratroop

[jaunty delta]

i have 300 transport planes

[pseudo raven]

i guess it's mid but will do against ai

just sloped

everything i had

)

[keen terrace]

Guys I’m playing millennium dawn mod as turkey and AKP just got elected but I can’t seem to improve my economy, what do I do?

Why is the name of the leader banned from the server btw

[ripe slate]

Probably join the Millenium Dawn Discord

[keen terrace]

Current president of turkey

[ripe slate]

Cant discuss modern politics in this server

[jaunty delta]

oh i cant use scout tanks wtf for paratroopers?

[keen terrace]

Ohhh okay

[ripe slate]

scout and paradroppable tanks are separate IIRC?

[pseudo raven]

only use for lt

[sudden thistle]

They aren’t on the tile

[jaunty delta]

nah i cant use scout tanks

[sudden thistle]

What

[jaunty delta]

i had armored recon tanks in the support, it didn't let me

[jaunty delta]

i get u but nah

[pseudo raven]

Heavy Piercing or atack buffs in mio?

[jaunty delta]

Oh I didn't unlock them in the mio, makes sense now

[sudden thistle]

Attack

[pseudo raven]

k

thanks

[coral gorge]

lmao long austria

[pseudo raven]

does destroyers counts as screens?

can't see dedicated to them buff in mio

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[pale flare]

why coulnt they just separate that 💔

[pseudo raven]

forgot does mils count or only civ greed

[flint wyvern]

What focuses do u even do for UK

[pale flare]

it says civs there no?

[sudden thistle]

The one that’s gives buffs

The good buffs

That’s a very broad question though

[pseudo raven]

oh sory

forgot how to read somehow

[pale flare]

normandy

[pseudo raven]

are they good?

[pseudo raven]

what is heppening with colours

they are so good

[flint wyvern]

I mean like which path is the historical ones

[sudden thistle]

Bro 😭

[pale flare]

no idea what you mean but the purple one is fascist russia

[pseudo raven]

third rome?

[pale flare]

ye

theyre massive

war is ending in prob 1970s at the latest

oh hey

[flint wyvern]

What is this bro

[gleaming iron]

"I am no fool."

[pale flare]

an unchecked russia

[flint wyvern]

Chad

[pale flare]

Theyre the enemt but i admit they got main character energy lmao

[ornate marlin]

will the bonuses from this mio affect medium spgs?

[rugged oracle]

is this a good panzer division?

[ornate marlin]

no

[flint wyvern]

No

[rugged oracle]

ok how do i make it better

[jaunty delta]

add arty support, med station, 4 more trucks

[flint wyvern]

Make it 38 width 8 tank 8 trucks 2 aa if fighting in red air or 10 tank 8 truck

[spiral sphinx]

Is the negative casualties bug still working or did that get fixed

[grand bear]

is there a dlc for new content for spain?

[neat kayak]

give me a country to do a navy game

[sudden thistle]

One of the Nordics

Choose anyone u want

[lost notch]

luxemburg

[neat kayak]

I will choose my 3rd fav country in the game then

Norway

i will do a navy game

if i don't rush the uk

i will for sure pick a fight with them

[woven mist]

Hello a Ryzen 7 9800x3d can run hoi4 pretty fast in 1945 ?

[dapper pine]

Where have i seen this before 🥀

[vivid gust]

Did the guarantee rules get changed? I keep seeing guarantees happen below 25% world tension, and it's becoming a pain.

[celest zenith]

There is a faction rule that reduces guarantee tension limit and the UK AI tends to pick that

[deep reef]

someone pick a random country for me to play

[neat kayak]

What does japan have to do with this??

[deep reef]

whast country

[sudden thistle]

Latvia

[deep reef]

alr

[fair horizon]

YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID AUSTRALIA

[hollow narwhal]

have u ever seen this before?.. lool they dont own any states

[fair horizon]

chat someone choose what ideology i go

[hollow narwhal]

wait WHAT lmao
OPEC??

[woven mist]

Democracy

Country ?

[fair horizon]

australia

[hollow narwhal]

just dont play it

[woven mist]

Democracy australia very good choice for pain

[fair horizon]

i hope you run out of convoys and get stack wiped

telling me not to play australia smh

[hollow narwhal]

wtf?? LMAO

right after u said that syria peaced out and i got encircled

[woven mist]

How people can make heavy tank destroyers template with australia or canada ?

[hollow narwhal]

3000 cas save me~

[fair horizon]

oh thats a lot to lose lmao

does this matter or can i just go all in on carriers?

new systems make my brain hurt

[hollow narwhal]

ok i saved it lool

[fair horizon]

ive never played democratic australia btw

[hollow narwhal]

lost like 2000 mechanized tho 💀

[fair horizon]

serves you right for trashing on my dominion smh

[hollow narwhal]

now i can get this random academy

[vital cove]

why are you using mech inf

[fair horizon]

wait can i not cheese daddy britian to repair my ships anymore? 😭

[vital cove]

especially in Africa

[hollow narwhal]

its the best

tanks r too much work lol

[vital cove]

they're just way more expensive infantry that requires fuel

just use pure inf

[fair horizon]

with fast speed and better stats

plus they have the oil for it because they've conquered romania

[celest zenith]

mech inf is L larps

[sudden thistle]

Mech inf is goated

[sudden thistle]

I won’t accept any hate on it

[fair horizon]

time to put on british classics

[hollow narwhal]

got bored of historical lol