#hoi4-general
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im a monarchy stuck at 40% wt
i literally cannot do anything and cant justify either
its 1945

i am stuck in an eternal limbo
bro 10 oct 1936
Big ethiopia
Cant wait for them to be annoying with resistance in africa!
Heavy self propelled artillery my beloved
This was my France game with Extened Tech Tree 1960
Holy
Epic encirclement
lmao yeah i get the glaze, used it on my austria hungary run and had like 1.5k soft damage lmao
decline that
its so expensive, but its just so satisfying
finland is so tuff of a nation
Finland might be the most op nation in the game
Those military buffs
SO much green
if you love green fascist path for finland is the best
i love finland because its fun seeing so much green

You might be finnished
and dominating the soviets
rommel is hacking your pc
new doctorine
Fr
hacks your game
it's the only nation needed for the EU
He wants your pc
rip
He needs it for the african panzer campaign
I love having all my sub doctrine mastery maxed, except for armor
AGAIN
nah i am using console
F this bugged game
it's the 6th craash
in a row
ONLY WHEN I FIGHT GERMANY
He hacked your pc
nuh uh non aligned is best cause you can be an alpha lone wolf
you can still be alpha lone wolf as fascist
i have air
who are you playing as
better army
Just with alot more green
ive capped the soviets germany italy japan the uk
but i just wanna kill the germans
but im locked at 40% wt and i LITERALLY cannot do anything
fps map the goat
no more focus thatll give you war goals against other countries?
nope
(Darkest hour map still looks better)
ive killed basically everyone except the us
then i think youre pretty much soft locked, unless the chinese do their magic of having a war that will kill 200% of the population
almost had that happen to me so i just panic justify war goal anyone i see
is there literally nothing i can do? 😭
Lmao
FIX THIS GODDAMN GAME
i can't kill germany
Play nothing but hoi4 ripoffs
no matter who is the aggresor
i declare on them
nope
they get called cuz of ethiopia
nope
AHHHH
i will annex them via console
there is no way this game lets me do something
i killed japan 😭
pretty sure yeah
can i see the map
do you have puppets?
can i win this
who knows, but your screenshot reminds me of that game I had in hoi4 where the entire world became communist
and China and other minor nations became the last bastion of democracy
even developed nuclear weapons as China and fighter jets
manchuria fell into the Soviet sphere of influence so, no manchuria for now
Thats not a wargoal
isnt it the one
That just gives the usa a decision that can be activated during a war with canada to give them attack and defense bonuses
no
No
and gets wargoal
No
what does it do
That is not the focus
This
It does this
Nice sword
oh okay
bro what do i even do atp
I'm more surprised about France having 4.53M total manpower banked up
clean
HIV epidemic
L Larps
hoi4 is a larp game
best larp game of the larp games
Also best slop game
whats the must-buy dlc
No step back
communist hungary so underrated
the color is genuinely the best in the game aswell
thanks, does it give focus trees to spain?
Thats la resistance
Who's playing Albania
anyone knows a mod that lets me rename my puppets and change their borders
how many factories does germany start with
More casualties than I wanted but successful first 3 months
you know what microsoft windows and hoi4 have in common
with each new major patch it's worse and slower
Sounds about right
True
Wanna play albania
It freezes a lot cus of auto saving
FINALLY
@lusty river
I'd rather never play hoi4 again
what are you doing here 😭


@ebon blaze
spain carries
Still not Rome
How do you rush mech as bulgaria?
Researching it
check focus tree for a research bonus
i wish rein would be a river where u can place fleet
imagine pushing and than ai is like
nuh uh
i am blocking it with fleet
Paraguay has a river navy modifier giving it core defense
But who plays in South America amirite guys
no like real fleet
I know what you mean
How
Also you can cross the river even if there is a fleet blocking it
reaserch bonuses
Is it the reorganize the military industry focus?
Tech rushing I assume even with a focus
is there any millenium dawn mod optimization
or this rock would be enough to play it smoothly
I was thinking, which is better, the AT Armored Car or the Regular Armored Car?
Transnistria
where it is
Between Moldova and Ukraine
very big country how you miss it
oh i know it as prednistrovie
how much hrs in that mod i need to unferstand how EU sistem works?
yall have prob heard of green poland, but what about BLUE POLAND?
never seen that coming
so my pc death freezed after opening russian federation fovus tree
easy lmao
hell nah lag every single game day
What did I say, it is not a good mod
1940 or early 1941 btw
Feature bloat makes it lag
order 66 ?
?
did you do the strat ?
HOI4 gamer doesn't know Order 66
bro WHAT IS THIS???
It is where you station troops in a country's VPs, declare war, and instant cap
declare war on their allies/puppet*
play ayetollah 😭
How you doing
Just play rt56 Albania (peak gaming experience)
another day without a Lebanese focus tree
which doctrine is best for defense
fine probably
Theyre all optimised for specific things, what do you use
Just do assault infantry
Also what you playing
finland
Nvm do defensive posture for USSR
Any mods?
Idk the paths for Finland so I don't know
You streaming it or
I am bored so
nah
that was in a test ironman game
where I switched inf subdocs from large unit to assault inf to individual excellence
I clicked on allow volunteer work why can't I send volunteers to Spain as franxe
bro how tf are they still democratic
Finland is best
is this good for early 1938? 🤔
awww
END OF CAMPAIGN
(ignore japan)

i am not playing mp sorry
why tgho
too long
Hey can someone tell me? How do i get the anschluss
I dont understand
Like i have 30 infantry divisions and i cant do it
You need more
Ok
yes
chile american annexation with cores
no special forces if you want a challange
did they do a silent fix or something with the naval AI?
That would be nice and sad at the same time
why sad, this is very good ngl
can finally use my ships against opponnents that might be scary
yeah hes actually deploying DDs for convoy escort and patrolling
same deal with australia
It's sad because I might no longer be able to 80-0 the enemy and land where they didn't bother to put naval supremacy
daz fair
gone are the days where DDs with only depth charges are out and about
im at war with htem whyd they agree
european australia
yeah theyre defo doing naval invasions n shi
i still cant believe democratic china lost their civil war AFTER winning WW2
genuinely how the f did they do that?
The Soviets gave Mao Machuria
and loads of equipment
also china was bleed dry after the japanese war
so that's how it lost 🙂
Well I don’t want to break rule 2, but generally the nationalists were corrupt, having never really quelled the warlords and their systemic issues, vs the more organized communists who rallied support from the peasants who were fed up with nationalist rule
Nice!
thanks ❤️
Good luck on learning Hoi4, can be a bit much at first but you’ll realize that it isn’t so bad and you don’t rly need to memorize EVERYTHING.
Oof philippines
does anyone have an trick on how to know how many division you need on defense to be able to stand an war or how are you supposed to know
why are the frontlines so hollow
Against who
anyone g idk majors and the opposite
The amount depends on who you're fighting
they should make infinite focus trees with ai! 😲
Ye u use this template 1 infantry battalion and spam about 32 of these
Burn in hell
i hate trollers so much ngl
why
No I am not trolling it works every time
for example soviet union as poland
For that disgusting thing you said
supply tho?
isnt it the best idea ever?
No
Switch motorized priority and edit supply hubs
yeah but regardless how do people know
Trial and error
Give up eastern Poland and focus on Germany
like u see if this amount of divisions work and if they don’t you need more next game?
or you could give up danzig to germany and focus on ussr
if on historical
True
I swear the soviet and german ai made an agreement to not fight eachother so they could focus on players d day
Better to have more than enough than not enough, I do good with 120 def units as Germany
yeah but then you maybe overdoit and your tanks takes time to gain numbers
Nah
or just forts tho right?
And they'd both be doomed
if you have an low industry
I don't know of a single AI that is good at stopping D-Day
spain
1936 hungary
You could get like 8 inf 1 at for your mainline units and then aa and signals for the support companies, that should work
hey i wanted to ask if there is a mod or something like that which tells you what to do
This probably works too but IDK how good it will treat you
why not use youtube
beautiful
sorry that wasnt my question 
You can naval invade with 100+ divisions, the AI isn't stopping you
yeah naval invade hungary
goodluck
I thought you were talking about dealing with Hungarian divisions in the most normal D-Day sites like France, Denmark, and everything in between
The only way you get a good d-day defense is #1, if you do it yourself, or #2 you get another player to do it
Not even Sheep's is good
it isnt supposed to be good though righ
pretty sure thats how it was historically
Yeah Germany did send second-rate troops there
But in the case of multiplayer d-day walls the second-rate troops are 36-width mech divisions
Most AIs just stick a few 10-widths and call it done
i think they dont even defend naval bases
they send them to random tiles
Yeah
looks good, i'd replace the engineer with logistics, and remove the AT (piercing too low, sheep tanks dont get pierced by that) but it'll do fine as it is
tHANKS
Oh caps
And why the hell does it suck
use turret, dont use heavy cannon on medium td
happened again lmao
apparently if theres only one province in a country, thisll happen after a coupo
Use 3-man turret, use High Velocity Cannon 2, use Riveted armor, replace fuel drums with armored skirts
heavy cannon 1 is garbage, and especially so on a medium chassis
since you have to use stupid superstructure
cool
90279530107079684
i need hoi4 old world blues discord server limk
Lets just say sheep ai fupt me
Forgot to do molotov
pact
and soviet deaclered war on me
got dam it
the tanks are dooky and 5 support for a 16 width
is like putting a railway gun on a toyota carolla
I did afford it lol.
yeah i didnt have much on air 40 mils
cas is king
Is there anyone who want to make a deal that would benefit them?
Go on.
Can we talk on dm?
The player
hi
italy
i can vouch for this
actualy finland is good
last night italy was able to repel a d-day and stop the british invasion of italy alone
ai btw
so hard to naval invade fr
mussolni getting better
build up italy to like 50 mils and they can do a good job frr
i do that and then i can just not bother with the southern side of europe mostly
woah
You're in a mod?
hi
Just when I learn navy paradox changes everything😭
first time this has happened
Bro how? They never pick that option
what yr
well i'm cooked
Theres a 13.5% chance as long as its not a historical game
IIRC there is a 1/10.000 event somewhere in the code
Players: "AI makes such bad peace deals!"
Also players:
That's better, but not by much
Thats almost perfectly historical
No Australian Austria. :/
I like it :) (for vacation)
Though their food is overrated, the people seem underrated, and the landscape is beautiful in most places, climate too
france isnt real
has anybody ever sent volunteers to the wrong side
it always happens to me its so frustrating
sheep ai mod
Since i use sheep ai mod should i do heavy tds instead of medium
or just go medium tanks no tds?
Cursed out of date graphics card
😋
Hello my friends
Sink more
meow meow meow oorah
Yes do heavies
but also do mech
you can probably get a mech license from someone
Yeah ig
trying to do the impossible
I love squad lol
People be yapping about absoulte weird ass shit during voting
yo could anyone give good template for non aligned france (napolean) infantry?? im new
THREE?
fast...
go 32 inf
32 width?? sorry im new
and comapanies
aa
art
signal
engineer
yes
what is this bro
ok thx
and this doctrine
im not playing that update
i stayed at 1.16
i hated the coal
two fizzled out
yo @pseudo raven whats the best doctrine
idk which one is meta but i prefer superior firepower
k thx
just doing a game where I am completely sandboxing and given myself all tech
Just playing around with the nuclear submarines, nuclear torpedo are the most meme thing I've seen
u could use the mod that gives year 2000 tech like from 1936->2000
I think I saw that, I may give that a go
Honestly I enjoy these saves, it's like playing with irl toy soldiers
lets go
nooo he killed my bald pizza delivery guy
who is gonna deliver my pizza
oopsie
victor emmanuel
Looks completely OP, I love it
my rarest one
its so easy ngl
ima attempt this tmr
@cold wedge
i dont think it is that hard
justify on them instantly after ethiopia
my plan puppet austria join allies rush germany
please no one be home 🙏
@cold wedge this good plan?
yipee
war thunder at 1:23AM !
depends on country but usually grand battleplan
im gonna play china
first time seeing this
guys how did i lose to Abyssinia in the tutorial 😭
Anyone wanna play with us?
is it worth switching to gun 0 to 1 as china at the beginning?
Oh nice, but how quickly can you get the higher level techs
Why not, you have basically no production efficiency
unoptimal bruh
I think defeat Greece first, you're strong enough to defeat the Soviets
And also build as many mils as you can
Oh wait
Will they like attack Iran and Afghanistan as well
If they don't you're fine
nope
been doing that since earlygame
this greek stack 😢
youre in a very good position, you can baiscally just wait it out
what do your divisions look like?
Do you have no trucks?
Do you have desperate defense btw
i got this
Superior firepower is okay for defense, but defensive postures doesn't give anything at all surprisingly enough
Here's the thing, if the enemy doesn't have more attack than your defense (which the Soviets probably don't, and we're in mountains which cuts attack by half), then it's pointless
Also remove engineers except on the Aegean tiles
They barely give any entrenchment
They do however give amphibious bonuses, which you want when crossing a strait
And in general, with a population as low as Turkey, you want the manpower from the operations doctrine first
oh dear god
The force attack 😭
time to get the greeks out
Oh wow china is strong here
I took like 30 of my puppets divisions
and I just threw them on the line
its holding surprisengly well
You know, you can block off the strait so that you don't have to worry about the greek islands
You can try getting Alexandroupoli
And maybe a naval invasion if the Soviets didn't send troops
just took out like 10 japanese divs
My divisions are currently built on hopes and dreams right now
China moment
ah, how?
Move (using the hold mission)your ships onto the sea tile where the strait is
oh dear god]
I cant stop it
GSDFGSDF
NO
HEY TOOK SHANGHAI
i cant stop them
I sent 300K men but they just cant be stopped
barely got an airforce but got aa everywhere
might be able to get dominance over greece
BRUH
Oof that's rough
that's like the main direction of the Japanese advance
ima try again tommorow
im probably not playing to well since I got under 3 hours of sleep
cant even attempt a counterattack
they wont stopp attacking
yeah this is over
May 1913 Austria declares war on Serbia for literally no reason
soviet ai keeps dumping the same armoured unit onto kars and keeps losing
.....what?
Yeah
Horrifying
Check this out, as you can see if a surface ship lies on a strait units can't move through it
Strait cheese is real
any ideas how to breakthrough this, i was thinking naval landing but all of my convoys are taken for trade necause germany cant stop buying my chromium
Me ensuring everything in Sicily cant escape
YOOO
what 😭
yes WE 🤣 ✌️
Yo corrosive
S.I.R.T.B.A.S.M
say im ready to be a single mother
yoo he got that gassy sticker boiii
Incredibly gassius
🤫
🤣
nah corrosibe ur lowk sussy
yo how can i be admin of ts server
@every body
@eneryine
@todos
@ veryone
ok so uh i drew this up and got the navy for it @dusky burrow
can i only land on ports?
tf is ts build boiii
they banned my boi jabier for sain 1thing we all said 😭 😭
i might have a decent setup right here, but idk
bro just 1 advertince to da mods
unban my boi
or else
@sweet relic free my cuh
he js said the palabra N 😭
bomb peru
holy ragebait
I just finished sea of cobalt and nuclear sub and missile really is powerful, but whats the point if its only obtainable by 1958 if you dedicate your playthrough to it with a bunch of special projects and nuclear buffs
there is no point
you should not be playing the same save if its already 1958
usually
unless u want it to be immensely laggy
its made for people who just want to make a cold war without having cold war content
in vanilla
Is philiphines fun chat
are any of the new paths fun
silly soviets
Japan is fu
n
But im right now trying to get into mp by beating sheep ai mod
learning more
before i refunded the dlc i tried to play historical path japan and idk the buildup before fighting china felt kinda awful
its ok im just not playing the game anymore
i dont like the new mechanics
every new thing since gotterdung is like how they added copper to minecraft
amazing
after 542 hours on this game i got my first achievement
💔
snaked again
so obviously its a little dated by the 40s but when does america get their 2009 dodge challengers used during the revolutionary war?
Same strat, yeah
another victim of turk snake
most normal civil war be like
RIP soviets
everything beyond astrakhan (though germany got most of the states) has been snaked
not looking great for him though
halfway there
capitulated before i reach
yo do i head von naureths concerns or strengthen wehrmacht
hey
i was playing a netherland game and i put up a pretty good defence (1/200kd ration ro something like that) but i stilll lost. how do good people actually defend
?
ion know gang im buns
1 to 200 kill ratio?
That's better than my 1 to 20 kill ratio
Maybe you need signals companies but idk
Spies are La Resistance dlc
Form a intel agency and then recruit agents
Then proceed to forget about them all game
Alr, ion have any dlcs
Im pretty damn new
and i learn some stuff but 99% of the time i get bored and add_latest_equipment 🥀
im playing germany to see where ive been compared to the start and im doing pretty fine
mostly for me i do instant_construction
is hoi4 general edition worth or just buy base
concentrateds best
long turkey 🤮
1: idk usually large unit tactics or the excellence one
2: self propelled support
3: mobile defense I think
4: desperate defense or assault inf
and for main doctrine use grand battleplan
small nation: concentrated
large nation: dispersed
small nation but no airforce: dispersed
AA and radar in my experience are never enough to negate the bombing when playing a minor with little air
when on concentrated
- large infantry tactics
- concrentation thingy
- infantry destroyer things
- mission type tactics
What are some good plausible alt history paths for countries
hellas for greece?
Done that like 15 times already lmao
we were so close to greatness
imperial fed.
democratic third rome
?
Switzerland but the Alpine Federation where it just swallows the alps from everyone else
generally for infantry / special forces / tanks
large unit tactics / assault infantry / individual excellence
siege artillery / air cavalry / self-propelled support
armored infantry support / armored infantry support / streamlined deployment
grand assault (or desperate defense if you're short on manpower)
That one could be interesting
it's quite fun actually because the territory gained modifies the second world war to the point where you can tip the balance pretty seriously by joining either side since Germany loses Austria and Italy loses Savoy
it makes you a ticking time bomb
but Switzerland has that flexible foreign policy and you can go that path and still go neutral, fascist, or democratic
I do like the fact that you can just return to the original Swiss political system at the end after going through a coup
Switzerland got a lot of crap in BBA but I quite liked it
Idk how plausible Italy giving up the Alps is tho lol
plausible like the AI doing it or plausible like being historically accurate
When I say plausible I mean something like the better than maginot path for Belgium or surviving the anschluss but not reforming Austria hungary
so historical fiction?
Exactly
EU? Netherlands and Belgium have an EU formation path, although that might be too unrealistic since it happens too soon. Spain has a path where you can have the Second Republic survive or break free from Soviet rule if you went down the Soviet Aid path.
Italy has the alternate fascist options like Dino Grandi and Italo Balbo
You could also have Ferdinand return to Bulgaria
I was mulling doing an allied Italy path that could work
Ferdinand in Bulgaria is good too
Idk if I wanna throw hands with the entire balkans tho
the Third Bulgarian Empire is quite a neat little formable and it's quite realistic
anyone who walks in the balkans comes limping back out
Limping you say ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
if you want to come out limping that way you should go to Asia and not the Balkans
dino grandi is the lebron of hoi4
France, I just remembered, has an amazing alternate Allies path
The balkans, well known for not having gay femboys
BTW two people's republic of mas
where you form the Entente and you can merge with the Allies faction along with Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland, etc. and you can also do Foreign Guest-Workers
Probably should be people's republic of Ningxia and people's republic of Qinghai
i struggle to understand
I love that path lol
it’s such a good path
Ah yeah cool path
I wanna do something that doesnt just end ww2 super early
Foreign Guest-Workers is so overpowered because then you can do French Union
is that true? i'm an anthropologist and the only context i hear about the balkans is people being shot
very cool path but it is liable to end the game early since it's basically Vanilla Ragnarok
Slovenia's entire schtick is that theyre a femboy factory
Vanilla ragnarok is doable
you COULD play as France, do the Entente, then tag switch to Germany, that would be insane
Oof
they been at it for 3 years now haven't moved one inch 🥀
why is EVERYONE communist
i feel like everytime i play nonhistorical
every country goes one ideology
like it’s never mixed well
at all
Game rules i set everyone but the us to be commuist so rosevelt could save the world
he could never
alf landon
on the other hand
saviour of capitalism
Guys thank yall for being so helpful
trench warfare on the eastern front
who would you even go to war with
i assume you could join the
Btw for some RANDOM reason, italy is gettin g invaded by france, and britain france, and the usa have puppet wargoals on japan and italy
germans french weird faction and get a ton of warscore on soviets if you declared on them
Thats the neat thing
It's so over for both factions
ima declare on both of them once they run out of man power and on scraping the barrel
Yk what would be cool
You change all countries of one ideology to another
Like Commies become NA, NA become Fascist, Fascist becomes Democratic, Democratic becomes Commie
Or smth like that idk
It may legit get to 1 billion dead if i dont invade and keep it going
tho my 4070 ti would probably beg for me to stop
what about the countries in north america?
surely you’d be stretched to deal with mexico and canada
and all majors
that is if they
Nah
joined a faction
^
is this a focus or what
singleplayer space marine scumming 🙏
alf landon could get them to capitulate with just his words
Italy is getting jumped by britain and france for like no reason
what's the template for space marine i forgot
its 1938
im using the tech tree 1960s mod btw
it’s the infantry with like
basically infantry with
1 tank
that’s aa
literally nothing other than anti air sloped armour
and max the armour out
the ai can’t break your lines at all
they’ll just endlessly run into it
helppp
alr
Chat I turned Germany into a fuhuerbunker
Nice
anyone know why trotsky declared war on romania?
Besserabia
never seen him do that during the civil war
Battle for Bospherus vs Trial of Allegiance which one to get?
where are you going to play
I’d probably get Bospherus, mostly because it adds more historical stuff to the war, and most people play in Europe anyways
im actually bouta crash out. IM GOING DEMOCRATIC, AND BECAUSE OF STUPID JAPAN, EVERYONE DECLARES WAR ON JAPAN, AND SO EVERYONE JOINS ALLIES, AND SO EVERYONE DECLARES WAR ON ME
AND IM DEMOCRATICCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STUPID JAPAN
d day if it was stupid and italian
Alright thanks
PARADOX CAN SMD
you've gotten $400 from me and not a dollar more for your greedy bullshit
could you avoid this topic on the official servers? thank you kindly :)
I'll avoid this topic once they stop releasing half finished games at full prices
the criticism is fine, though the developers do not look at discord often
serious question, what's the easiest paradox game?
Hello
hi
reddit is quick
what the hell is america doing
oh my god
please refrain from this topic on this server, im sorry to have to say this but people do not behave well when it comes to modern politics
i just did
What is better renewed ethnic policy or un breakable free republics
which country?
rate my naval battle
23 dive bombers lost L
wait do you not have carriers?
look at all the damaged ships
I think it's because there's not enough space for cv since you already have everything else - dd cl ca bc bb bombers
The fleet is just what I got from Germany + France + Italy + Japan then divided into four battle groups
japan-ironman game
Anyone know a mod that just reworks the EU mechanic?
Holy shit war in venezuela
Why didn't menguko get new focus tree but they got new national spirits
Menguko is peak
I naval blockaded venezuala now I’m gonna invade
u gotta do the operation, capture the leader
No focus for it I’m afraid
Just gonna naval invade next
I think you gotta try a paradrop
Yeah but I’m on sheep’s so the AI is realistic they’ve just got division spams in their coastal cities
Including civilian militia
guerrila warfare will save venezuela from the imperialists
real life also, venezuela has forests in south
too much arty
okay
attack
i never use antiair tbh, not even produce it
i see the anti air has piercing
and piercing is good i think
thank you vendrip
for the tip
oh mah dawgs wassup
hello
wassup enrico
it is okay
nice
i need more bullets
how will we beat the eusr if we dont have 50% of the population in the army
@vague abyssNice music but blatantly political
austria carry
alpine dominance
do 36 width tanks still work i have no org
why wouldnt they work?
what is this garbage? why did they make doctrines horrible???
or is half the feature dlc gated for 30 bucks?
the dlc sucks
navy is now just who has more industry
and doctrines take hela long to unlock
lol and they also cut half the navy research
so they effectively made the game worse wow
navy isnt fun anymore
24% rating seems to high xD
its just how much tonnage can you shit out
what did they change in broad strokes?
im too nervous to do a war, how do I gain the confidence (I literally started yesterday so don't hate)
I know that sounds stupid
So it's realistic then
Never was
bro 😭😭
just pick germany in the 1939 start and try to get as much done as you can
Well what country are you going to war with?
theres no faster feedback loop than just playing
hm maybe I should just look up tutorials 😭 that'd be better no?
if you dont know how to direct armies the entire build up to get there is misguided
no
can someone help me with hoi
That is pretty much how america won in the Pacific no?
just declare war
see how it oges
just do it
you can no longer make extremely specialised navies or make hunting fun
now its just
shit out big ships
dont be a coward just from some countries on a map 
well yeah I shouldn't be nervous makes sense its not like it costs money 😭 and you have infinite attempts
then do it
