hoi4-general

[knotty vortex]

i think it might

im gonna try it

[spiral sphinx]

i saw that

but i tried that and they still hated me

[knotty vortex]

oh wow czech rejected the invite entirely

havent had that before

now trying to federalize poland#

they have +100 opinion of me

[spiral sphinx]

probably not same ideology tho

?

[knotty vortex]

ah crap theyre non aligned

[spiral sphinx]

ye

[knotty vortex]

yeah rejected

gonna try with denmark

theyre democratic

yeah they refused

that sucks

[bright sinew]

play japan
beat china without going to war with the soviets, allies, or axis
decide to build up the logistics of asia before attacking the allies or soviets next
its 1944
progress is pic related

this was a horrible idea

[wary tundra]

twin this isnt 4chan

[toxic lantern]

it's a culture that can be exported

[sharp sierra]

lets quarantine it

[arctic nest]

we should fix the supply ahhh

[neon elm]

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[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/wendys-hot-and-juicy-alber-gif-25765468

[neon elm]

https://tenor.com/view/estonia-rika-estonia-anime-estonian-anime-estonian-rika-gif-78433885424445052

[sharp sierra]

https://giphy.com/gifs/indie-animation-ongezellig-maya-cAHJANDMOxicrNhkl2

[supple summit]

yo lads are heavy fighters even worth considering

[sharp sierra]

no

[neon elm]

90279332051596295

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[supple summit]

why?

[sharp sierra]

what do you want them for

[supple summit]

I was considering of using heavy fighters just to protect my cas

[sharp sierra]

idk if theyd be better than normal fighters for that

use them for fun

[supple summit]

what about for cas?

fair

[bright sinew]

lmfao

i like how in the new japan dlc

[dapper orchid]

Who's winning this

[bright sinew]

japan gets all these foci that lets them attack whoever they want at their own discretion

and barely anyone has any real foci to initiate a war on japan

so i can just sit here now and nobody is going to declare war on me ever

ig

japan is the easiest nation now i think lmfao

[molten forge]

finna play albania

[ancient marsh]

does EVERY tile need a railway

[sharp sierra]

i think nothing is easier than playing usa

[dusky burrow]

China in the 2000s in a nutshell

[dusky burrow]

Russia probably

Problem is Japan is confined to the Baikal chokepoint

And so Russia can go and defeat Ukraine first

[molten forge]

game crashed nice

[worn zenith]

anybody tryna run hoi4 tg

[dusky burrow]

okay guess no one won

[worn zenith]

@neon portal dms

[slim nexus]

Anyone know some good plane design that can crush the ai ? I can handle the ic cost i just want to wreck the ai as bad as I can

[slim nexus]

Yeah they should move to UE5 instead

[sharp sierra]

ive been saying that for months actual;ly

[slim nexus]

I hope you are as serious as I am

Because I hate UE5

[sharp sierra]

every unreal engine game just has that soulless look that i hate

recognizing a triple a game that uses unreal game engine is like recognizing a dog shit unity game made by a russian teenager

pubg clones

the new stalker is terrible

[rose prawn]

How do you help paradox

Am curious

[safe wing]

I remember the old limited but reliable Rome total war engine

Great engine for editing maps but could only have 20 nations due to it becoming unstable

Better than the current warscape engine for total war

Creative assembly couldn’t even properly remaster the game too

At least they removed the faction limit but the ai is dumber

[sullen gust]

Is it possible anymore to sealion in 36-37?

[lethal birch]

theres some people on looking for mp1 says dont say the n word but says that help pls im very offended

[safe wing]

welcome to hoi4

Use the Paradox bot I guess

Anyways I need to show the Greek Cities and Macedon why Rome is superior

And I will definitely not be conquering Thrace Pontus, and Egypt too

[dusky burrow]

Paradox forums I think

[arctic nest]

doing kinda the same rn

but still fighting allies

[safe wing]

I’m playing Rome total war

As the Brutii

[arctic nest]

bruh

[molten forge]

how does naval invasion work

[dusky burrow]

In rome total war or in hoi4

[molten forge]

hoi4, cus i dont understand how to use destroyers

[latent laurel]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[dusky burrow]

put them on patrol

And if you're naval invading you probably want to build cruisers and battleships

[obtuse yew]

Spam carries

[heavy vigil]

then why ask the total war player..

[wraith mauve]

How do I get more production units in TNO

[molten forge]

cus i didnt know

[heavy vigil]

left click port right click destination enter

[molten forge]

thanks, can i ask for like a heavy tank template singleplayer

[fierce mist]

Chat i dont understand this,

If i buy this expansion pass will i get every new dlc getting relesed of those

[split bane]

It's basically a preorder
All the DLCs that are already out, you instantly get those
And when the rest of the DLCs come out you'll also get those

[winter storm]

I see on some YouTubers play throughs they talk about 'coring' an area, what do they mean by that?

[quaint kettle]

R/engrish

How do I reduce the pencil noise whenever I assign a general?

[arctic nest]

if you conquer a area you occupie it and need to garison it and get almost no manpower factories and resocres that increses via complaince and if you core it you get all manpower factories and rescoes

[molten forge]

tryna turn the germans communist rn

[orchid vine]

encircled 65 russian divisions ts boutta be sweet

[split bane]

A "core" is a state where you have access to 100% of the manpower, factories, resources, etc and doesn't have resistance

[mild plaza]

And you can get cores through your focus tree or decisions depending on what country you're playing. Some mods also let you get cores in other ways but in vanilla its only focusses and decisions

[quasi shoal]

coring makes occupied territory like starting territory

[quiet vessel]

lowk respect to ukraine for taking desperate defense and defensive postures

russia needs to stop trynna battle plan them cus ukraine fr only getting green bubbles

like turn off aggressive battle plan bro atleast get some org and equipment

and bros troops are still greens

these guys being force deployed

[digital aurora]

I didn’t even need a navy to take out Japan, smh I could have used the kurill islands

Oh well they were not beating my 5 super heavy battleships

[timid vigil]

how the hell are you supposed to win as Communist China if you play historic? after 1.17 somehow EVERY piece of land conquered, despite i literally pushed with tanks, still belonged to China. Also isn't Manchuria supposed to be PRC's?? You can't even infiltrate it

[wheat copper]

what are the best strats to sealion the uk? (im playing imperial germany btw)

[timid vigil]

also every single warlord work with chiang kai-shek wtf

i literally have only one choice which is to join comintern

the hell is this design, it is way worse than RT56

freaking CHI has 350 divisions

[digital aurora]

Atomic bomb

[wheat copper]

bet

but ima go after france

and take their navy

to stand a chance against the british

[timid vigil]

no ideas?

[sharp sierra]

how many times have you posted this

[ripe cedar]

idk

im too lazy to get new things

for now

[sharp sierra]

post this

https://giphy.com/gifs/love-chud-chudjak-oMN8zIKeQXK9HLxjkX

[digital aurora]

Join Comintern. ????. Last until 1945 when the Soviets should invade manchuria, profit!

[timid vigil]

my 100+ divs still have problem hodling against 500+ divisions, becoz i have no path for oil...

[slow crypt]

Hello @dull bobcat

[digital aurora]

Well don’t use anything that requires oil like trucks, tanks or aircraft

[slow crypt]

@dull bobcat Start a podcast pls

[digital aurora]

The one thing I hate about puppets is how many divisions they spam so I’m having to integrate them all

Like China you just won the civil war stop sending divisions to my European borders

[timid vigil]

then those are trash

how is that going to win a 100 : 500+

[digital aurora]

CAV spam

Idk

[timid vigil]

ridiculous update

[digital aurora]

You gotta embrace guerrilla warfare

[timid vigil]

I killed the majority of japanese only to get encircled bruh i am supposed to get manchuria ffs

[digital aurora]

Mao moved the movement to the mountains for a reason (it was because their enemies supply lines were weak there)

[timid vigil]

CHI made peace with japan

[sharp sierra]

how many hours u got

[timid vigil]

and ALL the land belonged to China, this is not how it works ffs

2000+

[digital aurora]

Why didn’t you join the united front?

[timid vigil]

I joined

[digital aurora]

What year is it?

[molten forge]

should i do japanese

[timid vigil]

China made peace with japan through the event after it got pushed out of the continent

and i got nothing

1943

[digital aurora]

Ah

[timid vigil]

i am supposed to get the entirety of Manchuria, at least part of it ffs

[digital aurora]

You would have if the Soviets invaded

Which they did in 45

But I guess they must be a little tied up rn

[timid vigil]

if i just wait wait wait until united states kill japan

[sharp sierra]

i havent loaded up the game once since the dlc but i bet its not that hard

[digital aurora]

You could but your already at peace right?

[timid vigil]

by then china literally have more factories then the british empire bruh

it's designed to be ridiculous, you get nothing for pushing out the japanese, i should've never done anything

ALL the occupation zone somehow all belongs to China

before 1.17 it is not this case

[digital aurora]

I assumed if you waited for 45 when the Soviets declared war on Japan you would have gotten Manchuria

Maybe

Depends if the AI is on coke or not

[timid vigil]

i guess I can load an earlier save to do so but it is way earlier. i killed too many japanese

[sharp sierra]

maybe the game is just booty ass and paradox forgot how to make anything worth paying for

[digital aurora]

Yeah the DLC is okayyy but not worth as much as it costs

[sharp sierra]

how is the coal thing mulling over

[digital aurora]

I have like 1k factories and I’m fine on coal, but I’m the Soviets so yk

[sharp sierra]

yea so what about south africa or hungary

or ethiopia

is it fine

i havent played

[digital aurora]

Idk

I guess you trade, but they fixed it so you can’t end up consuming infinite coal

[slow crypt]

@dull bobcat Thank you for sharing your thoughts

That was actually pretty cool!

[quasi shoal]

coal is not a problem unless you're a minor nation that's trying to build a large industry

[azure crescent]

"yeah ill play the soviets today" and its 1941 and this is my situation

5 million dead and im out 160k guns

but hey i doubled my military atleast

im going places it loosk liek

[quasi shoal]

kill the encirclements

[azure crescent]

my military is starving

It doesn’t have the strength to do anything

I’ve just left Central Asia and Siberia to die tbh

[clear dagger]

make a fallback line

[azure crescent]

The soviets never fall back

We just push

[clear dagger]

even the soviets made fallback lines during ww2

otherwise you will lose your entire army

[azure crescent]

I’m just having fun now I gave up on trying to really win

[clear dagger]

i know you wont win looking at that map

also how do you double your military while being 160k guns in debt

[azure crescent]

77 factories on rifles

more before

[clear dagger]

oh as in factories

thought you meant like army

divisions

[azure crescent]

no i did

[clear dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190430460120154274/1446258883352985802/dexter-dexter-morgan-stare-2367495577-13_dragged.gif

[azure crescent]

started with the 118 and now i have 333

[clear dagger]

you at least gave them shoes right?

[azure crescent]

i deplyed them half trained half equiped

what do you think

[clear dagger]

i hope they have at least 2 pairs of pants

[azure crescent]

i dont think have pants

i encircled em

[azure crescent]

@clear daggerthats berlin

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-shit-holy-fucking-shit-fucking-shit-wtf-gif-25185864

[azure crescent]

hell yeah

afghanistan killed persia

[clear dagger]

persians trying to get back home:

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-desert-patrick-bateman-desert-memes-bike-gif-14915528305895461600

[azure crescent]

17 more divisions to the front

holy shit

the allies declared war on me for no reason

how fun

[clear dagger]

how many have you lost?

[azure crescent]

7 million

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530

[winter storm]

How do you core an area, I do not see a button to push to do so.

[clear dagger]

you cant just core any state you want

its through focuses or decisions of the country you play as

there are a couple paths that do let you core any state you occupy like anarchist spain

[real tulip]

dayum im short on my navy

[azure crescent]

my navy is dead

[slender nest]

Dayum they just took Moscow

[azure crescent]

lock in twin

[slender nest]

stalingrad too..

oh and the Finnish took Leningrad at the start of the war

[azure crescent]

start vs current

just lock in

[slender nest]

gng i lost to Poland as Germany

i think locking in aint saving me 😭🤌

and i thought me and Adolf were buddies.. 😔

BUUTUTUUTTTT I DID TAKE THE BALTICS 🥳🥳🥳🥳😁😁😁😁😁😁✨✨🥳🥳🥳🤌😁😁🤌

[azure crescent]

dont believe in yourself, believe in the me that believes in you

[real tulip]

how cute

[quasi shoal]

HELL YEAH

[real tulip]

:D

[dusky burrow]

Sometimes it feels like good hoi4 gameplay is indistinguishable from magic

[dusky burrow]

You're in the Allies?

[real tulip]

nah bro

[azure crescent]

this is all i cant manage

[real tulip]

sure, why not

i already got troops over here

[tired lintel]

can someone send the link for the current sheeps mod? I can't find the current one.

[quasi shoal]

Who really wants to play good in hoi4 😂

[opal nymph]

Germany players dying to Poland

[real tulip]

lol

[quasi shoal]

How 😭

[dusky burrow]

Can you import more

[quasi shoal]

Import 2 more

[real tulip]

is this enough aircraft for my airforce?

[real tulip]

forgot

[winter storm]

I am still in learning phase of playing HOI4. I have mostly been playing Italy. What should I look at in the focus tree to see if an area can be considered a core area.

[real tulip]

nah, i'd take the nations themselves

nearly 500 divisions lol

[quasi shoal]

If it says state is now a core of ___ then that's it

[inner iron]

Defence goes hard

[dusky burrow]

Fighting worldwide be like

[real tulip]

tbh i think i can 1v2 earth, 2 earths, 1 america

[azure crescent]

ive really turned this around

im still 150k guns in debt

[dusky burrow]

Okay wow i didn't know there was a focus that could do that

[azure crescent]

250k actually

[real tulip]

sending 1/3 of my armed forces in the polish front

[quasi shoal]

Wtf

[azure crescent]

i havent had half my coutnry for 90% of this game

i just raclaimed all of my land before the urals like a year ago

[dusky burrow]

secret gandhi path for india

[quasi shoal]

😭

Time to stack up on heavy bombers and nuke the enemy

And then trap them in africa or west asia so they lose all their guns

[azure crescent]

who even needs an airforce

[sudden gulch]

How do I unify China as Shangdong clique?

[steep abyss]

how does everyone defeat communist china quickly in the new dlc

i can steamroll every other china but if you leave it too long then they annex shanxi but if you dont then you get messed up cus theyre whole country is mountain

i may be stupid

[azure crescent]

idk i dont have the dlc but just fall back

[steep abyss]

like thin them out?

[azure crescent]

yeah

[steep abyss]

alr

[azure crescent]

they dont have a big military or industry

[dim vine]

yo anyone wanna play?

[steep abyss]

australia?

[dim vine]

im usa

[steep abyss]

my internets too bad to play with anywhere else sorry

[dim vine]

ah alr nw

i was abt to say im on the west coast but i forget the pacific is massive sometimes lmfao

[steep abyss]

yeah lmao its like a quarter way across the world

here to perth is bad enough

[dim vine]

tbh i spam infantry for mountain terrain, river crossings, etc, and then medium/heavys for other terrains

[dim vine]

lol

[steep abyss]

yeah alright cheers

[dim vine]

cheers👌

[real tulip]

Invading the soviet union

[dim vine]

nice but just to lyk, defense division generals/marshals can hold up to 72

[quasi shoal]

Ill play

[dim vine]

they hold up to 3 times their limit

[quasi shoal]

Im us too

[dim vine]

bett

[quasi shoal]

I cant use vc tho

[dim vine]

ah np

[quasi shoal]

I can but i cant talk yk

[real tulip]

i know

[dim vine]

alr wanna dm so we can talk there with no distractions?

[quasi shoal]

Aight

[real tulip]

forgot to bring my airforce

[azure crescent]

everyone is dead

[real tulip]

i don't remember leningrad being this easy to cap

the rest of my forces haven't even arrived yet

i don't even have my airforce in here

here comes the parade

hehe

[opal nymph]

What year is it?

[real tulip]

1942

[opal nymph]

Fully equipped modern tanks and mech units

[real tulip]

i got cheats on

[opal nymph]

I noticed

[real tulip]

railway system is maxed out

[opal nymph]

Department of Defense?

Why is in its own category

[sudden gulch]

Any suggestion for the battle for China path?

[opal nymph]

And wasn't it the Department of War back then?

[opal nymph]

Huh, wdym

[real tulip]

This is my DOW

the US Armed Forces

[opal nymph]

The Department of Defense and War are the same thing

[sudden gulch]

Chinese warlord paths

[opal nymph]

It covers everything related to the military

But I understand what you mean

[opal nymph]

Are you playing vanilla?

[real tulip]

moscow has fallen

stalingrad has fallen

[dusky burrow]

mechanized?

[real tulip]

yup

and tanks

[cedar kite]

Youngest leader in hoi4

[quasi shoal]

ain't that the default portrait

[real tulip]

5 million soviets and 500k romanians fell to my mech wave

[cedar kite]

Yeah but Faisal the 2nd was born in May 1935

So he's like 7 months old

Younger than

Also I guess he is the 4th leader in hoi4 that was alive when hoi4 released

[quasi shoal]

I looked it up and faisal died in the 50s

[cedar kite]

Im talking about the rapa nui leader

[sharp sierra]

whos th first

[real tulip]

yay

[cedar kite]

Idk which leader came first

I think Michael of romania

[sharp sierra]

the chicken or the egg

[cedar kite]

If Elizabeth the 2nd was added in mtg then she be the 2nd leader

[quasi shoal]

I don't think she was?

also if she was she wasn't added as a leader

[cedar kite]

And then the only alive leader and if he released in bftb would be simeon would be the 3rd

[cedar kite]

I mean she's a leader in hoi4

Idk when she was added

[split bane]

So we got
Valentino Riroroko Tuki (died July 2017)
Michael I (died December 2017)
Queen Elizabeth II (died September 2022, I still remember the day she died bro)
Simeon II (still alive)

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-you-mean-gif-11537439475653946477

[cedar kite]

Actually I'm wrong youngest leader in hoi4 is rod hull

[modest shuttle]

Hey guys, how do you go monarchist as a Chinese warlord?

[misty fossil]

is that eaw

[dusky burrow]

No that's vanilla

It's an Indian secret path

[spiral prawn]

They need to remove the Ussr communist influence after they change governments

[spiral prawn]

I also see you got iran

https://tenor.com/view/dune-oil-gif-1490590963367136282

[peak mason]

The ai just went afk and I won the war by march 1940 not the Soviets yet

[misty fossil]

Oh

[nocturne garnet]

should i use light spg or medium spg im poaying with no dlc

[misty fossil]

lights are useless unless its breakthrough-maxed light tanks as armoured reconnaissance company

and if you dont have any dlcs might as well not play tbh

[sharp sierra]

the subcription

[misty fossil]

at the very least buy la resistance

NSB, BBA and AAT

[sudden gulch]

Yes

[prime edge]

Ain’t no way my boy Vlasov would betray me

Inconceivable

[neat kayak]

Finally found the video

and i found it in my pinned searches cuz i accidentally clicked it

[opal nymph]

Most loyal Stalinist award

[terse hemlock]

Damn finally

The battle royale achievement

[opal nymph]

How did you get it? Ahistorical?

[terse hemlock]

Nope i do it on historical with the united front

[opal nymph]

This achievement looks insanely painful

[terse hemlock]

Yes it is totally bud

[opal nymph]

Wait, how did you not get the rest of the United front to kill you

[stiff heart]

NEIN NEIN NEIN

STEINER DO SOMETHING

[opal nymph]

I assumed you formed it via your focus tree and kicked China?

[terse hemlock]

U have to align with the burning papers focus. That one makes u the one who creates the united front

[stiff heart]

Did you do this in 1945

[terse hemlock]

Nope, 1940 Usa will got tons off warscore

In 1945

I focus full on planes

I got a trick

U have to justify war on USA and UK but not declare we need the world tension reach 70

Then when u are on war u can ask for arms to the USSR and non aling countries like poland and Iran

Focus full planes and ask for some weapons

Everytime

Then u have to hold the line un Shanxi

[opal nymph]

So how did you declare war on both China and Japan near the same time?

[terse hemlock]

At the beginning i justify on china and i got the wargoal

[opal nymph]

Oh, that makes sense

[terse hemlock]

Then when the war start justify on Japan's home island (for the tension) and u got the wargoal in 40 days

U declare war on japan first

And 2 days after that u declare on china

And thats why we need the united front cause with that u have no borders with china

And u can focus all in Japan

[stiff heart]

Dang

[terse hemlock]

Fun fact of this game, lit i ask for too many weapons to Germany, and Germany never conquered France

[stiff heart]

I only got military support from Soviet Union

Right now I'm in a horrible state

I have no resources

The allies invaded me

The Soviet union is doing nothing

All I can do is hold out in Prussia until Soviet reinforcement arrives

[frozen sparrow]

i hate africa

germany moment

[stiff heart]

And now America joined the war

There NEEDS to be some god given miracle for me to win this

[misty fossil]

How?????

[opal nymph]

It is 1940, what did you do

Or not do

[hoary mortar]

He HOI4'd

[viscid swift]

guys imo silesia should've got a focus tree in gotterdammerung cuz like, the silesian uprising gets added and its not even playable on ironman? :/

[opal nymph]

That would have been the greatest unexpected focus tree since Iceland

[viscid swift]

but it could actually be pretty cool

[opal nymph]

A small tiny tree, or even just the ability to play them would be cool

[viscid swift]

fr like i just wanna sit there protecting my land for the whole game and watching the world burn

[real tulip]

adding divisions to guard my newly captured soviet union

[cedar lance]

alr

i do usually do Real life templates

[frosty wind]

aaaaah its fine

[viscid swift]

hope u have desperate defence 😭

[frosty wind]

ah its 6.1 mil now

[real tulip]

hmm

[dusky burrow]

how does this look like

[frosty wind]

i mean

i am beating the soviets

it jus thasnt moved for the last 8 years

the brits still exist

in maritania

and i have the facist brits in africa

[thick pollen]

does anyone know how to get the "I am the captain now" ribbon? ive tried 3 times and its never triggered

[frosty wind]

its been 10 minutes 💔

i hate this game

OH OH OH! THE CENTER FINALLY COLLAPSED

[stiff heart]

I invaded Poland

[frosty wind]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064411091318341642/1330783023607582741/togif-6-2.gif

[dusky burrow]

@patent cedar

Oh no

<@&846894118219022336>

[stiff heart]

And then the allies came after from behind

[dusky burrow]

Code red code red

[frosty wind]

i wonder how @marble gale feels after he said that

so thats 8 million

[dusky burrow]

What is going on RIP

[hoary mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/captainisaac-isaac-thevldlsquad-alan-vldl-gif-20229406

[frosty wind]

i have 490 divisions

they have 520

just like a real good time

[hoary mortar]

420

hiya kat

[mild plaza]

Got it thx

[mild plaza]

Hello

[dusky burrow]

who's got 490 and who's got 520?

[frosty wind]

germany (me)

has 490

and the soviets

have 520

💔

[dusky burrow]

How have you suffered so many losses

[frosty wind]

they attack then we attack then they attack then we attack. We just keep trading tiles 💔

[dusky burrow]

Are you being encircled, are the Soviets just bodying themselves into you, what's going on

You can concede ground if it is not important

[frosty wind]

they're bodying themselves into me, im bodying myself into them

[dusky burrow]

Select your divisions, press h to stop them from executing orders

[frosty wind]

nahhh

im enjoying this

[dusky burrow]

Also stop any arrows your generals are doing

[frosty wind]

nahhhh

im intrigued to see how many of my men can just

disappear

eventually one of us will run out of men

oh the child is incharge now

oh thats 9 million

WE TOOK MOSCOW

[real tulip]

over 1k divisions

[frosty wind]

thats cool and allb uttttt

oh the soviets are just like out of manpower

ITS OVER

ITS FINALLY OVER

[kind vale]

Whats a fun nation to play as?

[viscid swift]

guys will france turn into communists soon cuz like im trying to infuence them but they're kinda just.. sitting there

[viscid swift]

communist germany

[kind vale]

Ive already done that😔

[viscid swift]

iceland

[kind vale]

Already did that as well

Ill just do communist germany

[warped flint]

Genuinely just invade them

they are annoyin

last time I played commie germany they capped to britain causing me a 2 front war

[azure dagger]

Bulgaria fate of the Balkans path

[kind vale]

Alright ill do that after germany

[viscid swift]

inrease 🔥

[viscid swift]

(someone's gettin fired for it frfr)

[lethal birch]

no thanks i know 4 languages dont need to perfect one of them

[kind vale]

Which communist germany leader has the best mustache

[warped flint]

what is this bro

[wind fog]

I love modding

[dusky burrow]

ewww, not the united states

[azure dagger]

I saw it too

This game straight copied jimarkus thumbnail

Shame to them

[viscid swift]

1st of all, why is everything european.
2nd of all, why isnt the USA european

[fickle thicket]

decent tonk design (armor and speed will be adjusted)?

[heavy vigil]

:(

[fickle thicket]

how bad we talkin

[heavy vigil]

:(

:C

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-gif-23976170

[heavy vigil]

terrible gun, sloped armor is way worse than hmg, no armor clicks, wet ammo is bad but ok youcan use it, not using riveted armor is a crime and you have about as much attack both soft and hard as production cost

which is terrible

[fickle thicket]

so its ass?

[heavy vigil]

its also a medium tank you shouldnt care about its armor, you only do armor clicks because they add breakthrough

[heavy vigil]

ive seen worse

[fickle thicket]

christ

ay give me a break i js bought no step back like 2 days ag and by blood alone

[heavy vigil]

youre fine :3

[fickle thicket]

as long as it can pierce enemy divs idc

[heavy vigil]

just tanks are supposed to be high stat for the

and your gun is useless so

[fickle thicket]

so heavy canons it is

eh im playing against the ai it wont be that bad

[dusky burrow]

oil barrels guzzle guzzle guzzle guzzle guzzle

[quasi shoal]

I love naval bombers

those 6 ships are light cruisers btw

[opaque mulch]

hecc yeah carlist win (first one for me)

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[opaque mulch]

sup

[cedar lance]

not much hbu

[opaque mulch]

js won as carlist spain and im proud of myself

[cedar lance]

nice

ive used and utilised all SPs

as Estonia

@opaque mulch

[opaque mulch]

?

[cedar lance]

read above

[opaque mulch]

what SPs

[cedar lance]

Special projects

[opaque mulch]

why the actual heck did you do that instead of something normal

or did you already do a world conquest

[cedar lance]

no

atleast im using and utilising em

[kind vale]

Should I start using mechanized infantry in divisions without tanks and have those fight along side tanks

[rose siren]

yes

[kind vale]

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/officer-doofy-salute-doofy-gilmore-scary-movie-gif-7478485031813304189

[cedar lance]

are ALL of the SPs good to use?

🇪🇪 the ESTONIANS built an army

[dusky burrow]

Happens more often than you think

[pulsar gyro]

even as a puppet italy still shoots me in the foot

[dusky burrow]

I've had that happen most when I puppet spain

I was Brazil which had Portugal, and then the British constantly just entered Portugal from Spain

But some cleanup later and RIP

[pulsar gyro]

i was hoping that by making italy a puppet before starting a war with the allies i wouldnt have to defend the coastline on italy

common AI L though

[celest zenith]

are allies at war with the ussr?

[pulsar gyro]

they are

[celest zenith]

when AI has common enemy they tend to give each other military access

[pulsar gyro]

i have spain as a puppet and they didnt do that. makes a bit of sense though

[celest zenith]

If you don't want this to happen don't call italy to war next time

you can still request all puppet troops without calling it to war

[pulsar gyro]

yeah i made the mistake of accepting the continuation war, it seems like it pulled my puppets into it

[celest zenith]

That also happened to me

[marsh ravine]

me

[pulsar gyro]

ive noticed as germany if you just invade all of the balkans -greece and max infrastructure in muntenia and a couple in space after getting them as a puppet you can get autarky achieved

[cedar lance]

i hope 1 day in a future DLC expansion PDX gonna add escort carriers

[pulsar gyro]

i hope they can expand naval combat, its a little too easy

[cedar lance]

alr

if PDX dont add in a escort carrier ill just add it myself as a NEW SP

[pulsar gyro]

please bro im desperate for new naval content

[cedar lance]

alr

idk why PDX didnt add it in in NCNS

[cedar lance]

dw ill do it when ive learned

[pulsar gyro]

thanks bro

[cedar lance]

np

[wary tundra]

i have no idea how this shit works but i have 10 hrs a day on it

[cedar lance]

@pulsar gyro got any other naval ideas?

[pulsar gyro]

i want the carrier submarines back, i used to get so much value from them

[cedar lance]

alr

[ancient marsh]

tfr numbers be so ridiculous

[cedar lance]

@pulsar gyro alr

[pulsar gyro]

tysm

[cedar lance]

np

[misty fossil]

go back to riveted armour, get rid of sloped armour and replace that and HMG with two secondary cannons

[misty fossil]

research maintenance comp 2 and later replace one cannon with the easy maintenance module

[fickle thicket]

alr

[misty fossil]

and get either medium gun 2 or medium howitzer

i recommend the former

[torn copper]

Hello

Has anyone else went through the "i might actually have no brain" phase of hoi4?

I watch youtube videos and think "why would he even say that with such confidence, how does he know that at exactly this time you have to build 4 slots in Brejsjskibic"

[heavy vigil]

country buff skull

[torn copper]

I question my sanity

[heavy vigil]

and still low xp

[torn copper]

I have like 700h ironman

[heavy vigil]

most youtubers also suck its ok

[torn copper]

Is there anyone who knows how to play this game?

Or am i the only one who doesnt

[heavy vigil]

like most people

[misty fossil]

if i had veteran on that you would be looking at 30k soft attack

[heavy vigil]

theres a lot i dont know

[misty fossil]

lmao

i deployed those very late game

so they didnt get to see much action

[torn copper]

This game has taken every ounce of my soul

Wtf is a navy

[misty fossil]

fitting pfp

i dont enjoy vanilla navy so i play with a mod that overhauls it

unironically makes it easier for me to digest

[clever tendon]

what's the meta for historical USSR in SP

[heavy vigil]

battleplan build

[clever tendon]

gbp?

grand battleplan?

if so

left or right

also

is spamming mils day 1

as USSR good

[heavy vigil]

gbp is for tank

[pseudo raven]

I think it's not as good as spaming civs until 38

[clever tendon]

That's good

[clever tendon]

Makes sense

Also

When preparing for war against Germany

Should I put the 9/0s on the border or Dnieper

[pseudo raven]

I guess if u play against ai

Than even this would work

I done it on border

No fallback to Dnieper

[clever tendon]

Aren't tanks more fun

You must also have air then

If inf

[knotty vortex]

what is a core?

like what does that mean

[quasi shoal]

Border

[vital cove]

a state that fully yours. you'll get the full manpower and factories and resources from it. compared to non core territory, where the amount of factories and resources you get depends on the compliance, and you need to garrison it, and they can have resistance against your occupation

[quasi shoal]

Imagine if germany annexxed moscow rn irl
The population wouldn't feel very german right
A core is the opposite

[quasi shoal]

This too

[knotty vortex]

so a core means the population like the occupant?

just watching a video where a guy gets cores on us as facist uk

[quasi shoal]

Not necessarily

Ig i had a bad analogy

[snow rain]

Core means you get access to 100% of resources, manpower and factories

Unless another modifier is stacked on it. Also, no resistance

[vital cove]

cores don't really make sense irl, like you can get cores on all of the old roman empire as Italy, but obviously if Italy conquered france and spain they wouldn't suddenly feel roman

sometimes the game logic does make sense, some time it doesn't

[tulip thorn]

Im sure italy could use a dark magic spell

[knotty vortex]

i figured alot of the mechanics arent logical

[snow rain]

My funny map painting game is not 100% pure realism ???

[tulip thorn]

Hoi4 is the most historically accurate game, how dare you say other wise

[knotty vortex]

lol

[snow rain]

Reminds me of the stallaris debate if how much 1 pop represents irl

[vital cove]

of course the Philippines could offer to merge with mexico and Mexico would just say yes because spain colonized the Philippines 100 years ago

[tulip thorn]

1 pop is half a person trust

[vital cove]

perfect realism

[tulip thorn]

Sounds about right

[snow rain]

Some guy extrapolated UN pop numbers and calculated a whole lot to figure this out
And then a dev simply responded "nah""

[tulip thorn]

Lmao

https://tenor.com/view/fna-fnaf-scott-cawthon-all-your-theories-are-wrong-gif-14805434331413338057

[opaque mulch]

what the

[kind vale]

Doing early anschluss gave a good amount of factories

[arctic nest]

looks clean

[tulip thorn]

Thats why all decent hoi4 players do it

Why build civs when you can take from austria

lets you snowball so fast

[arctic nest]

you need only like 50 civs

[kind vale]

Im building a few civs

[cedar monolith]

Ai might be a little late asking for help

[tulip thorn]

Why

Dont

Germany just build mills

[kind vale]

It was only a few civs

[snow rain]

A few civs too many

[opaque mulch]

brotha there is:
german reich even tho there's 3 occupation zones (it's ruled by The Big Man himself still)
soviet union eating 1 tiny bit of slovakia
polish people choking when looking at the borders

[kind vale]

Never to many

[tulip thorn]

Spoken like a true civ greeder

[snow rain]

If you did so after anchuluss it definitely is

[kind vale]

Before

[kind vale]

I just wanted 45 making my mils

[tulip thorn]

How early did you do it

[kind vale]

1936

[snow rain]

As germany building civs is basically throwing ic away in most scenarios

But it's sp, who am i kidding

Do as you want, ai's dogshit anyway

[primal cobalt]

Soviet Union eating tiny bit of Slovakia is historically accurate

[tulip thorn]

Light tanks with 0 stats my beloved

[cedar monolith]

USA is almost all civs before 38 lol

[opaque mulch]

fair but i dont like it

[snow rain]

Light tank div with no tanks

[tulip thorn]

absolute cinema

[snow rain]

If you build civs as usa you're one greedy gus

[tulip thorn]

I always build civs as usa, I need the civ greed

Who needs mills

[kind vale]

1.5k civs in faction.

[opaque mulch]

"we'll build it in a second"

[tulip thorn]

Mills are for the weak

[kind vale]

"We will build 5000 in a second"*

[snow rain]

I only build strat bombers, subs and 36w pure, support-less, infantry

[cedar monolith]

Nothing like factory's building more factory's haha it's sp but I've got 300ish total as usa

[kind vale]

Soviet style infantry

[snow rain]

I build infra then refi

[quasi shoal]

There should be a focus for some country to increase civ amount on one line

Do it for switzerland so they can cap out on things to make quicker

[snow rain]

That would not serve any purpose

[quasi shoal]

It would late game

[tulip thorn]

I always build 1937 air frame fighters with 2x light gun and bomb, with 2 width infantry and 0 support companies and always make nothing but converted cruiser aircraft carriers

Its a fire strat

Trust

[kind vale]

Can't be a factory and a fortress in a small area

[quasi shoal]

2x light gun and bomb could be worse tbh

[snow rain]

Late game if you have civs sitting, you convert into mils

[quasi shoal]

You dont always have the resources to do so

[tulip thorn]

its very good

[kind vale]

I love making garbage tanks

[tulip thorn]

I love making tanks that cost over 50 ic

[snow rain]

You don't convert everything but so that you only have 15-20 civs doing nothing instead of 50

[quasi shoal]

Look at that ic 🤩

[kind vale]

The ones im making rn cost 4.50 ic

[snow rain]

What's that horror for ?

[quasi shoal]

I mean resources like actual resources

[tulip thorn]

1943

Its so good

[quasi shoal]

Wtf

[quasi shoal]

Mf making the gun and the engine 🔥

[snow rain]

I will not interact with ragebait

[kind vale]

Its purely for funds gain

[quasi shoal]

Good 😭

[tulip thorn]

and in 1944 ill replace the 2x gun with 4x light gun

[kind vale]

Its got 8 soft attack

[tulip thorn]

its really good

[snow rain]

If you don't have resources then you build infra
If you can't anymore and no more slots you convert and produce with penalities

[tulip thorn]

pls engage with my ragebait

Im begging

Please Francissaucisson I need this

[quasi shoal]

Imma be honest the main reason i want that is cuz late game i dont need mils or civs and it'd be nicer to not have to put as much shit in the queue

[kind vale]

What if I just make 500 divisions using the tank that costs 4.50 ic

[vital cove]

nah i think you need to remove the light machine gun

[quasi shoal]

Better than the average ai tank

[vital cove]

you might actually shoot something by mistake with that

[tulip thorn]

Then how is it going to do cas damage

[quasi shoal]

True...

[vocal hull]

which of asian countries u guys suggest to play after the new 1.17 update

[quasi shoal]

With the engine

[tulip thorn]

The bomb is for air attack, I need the 2x light gun to do cas damage

[vital cove]

kamikaze into the enemy tanks

[kind vale]

8 soft attack
2 hard attack
6 piercing
19 armor
10.3 breakthrough
1.9 defense

[quasi shoal]

No you drop everything but the engine, and use that to fly back home

[quasi shoal]

Honestly that might be better than ai tanks

[vital cove]

true

[vocal hull]

?

[snow rain]

At least use autocanon 2 jeez

[tulip thorn]

Lmao

[snow rain]

5.8ic, 20 sa

[tulip thorn]

yo how is my tank

[kind vale]

Its a medium tank with a light turret and heavy machine gun how can that be better😭

[quasi shoal]

It's a funds tank 😭

[tulip thorn]

for 1939

[quasi shoal]

Ai uses lights

[vocal hull]

is japan a good choice or china

[quasi shoal]

Add 4 or so ticks to engine

[snow rain]

.8 ic more for 2.4x the stat

[kind vale]

Lemme strap a glock with a switch on the tank rq

[vital cove]

few more engine clicks. looks too slow. except that seems fine

[quasi shoal]

Stats on the tanks they wont use?

[vocal hull]

na cafshi karin pra

[tulip thorn]

This will do

[snow rain]

1 man turret cheaper

[quasi shoal]

No 3 more

[kind vale]

Legit what i built but as a medium

[tulip thorn]

Way to much breakthrough

[snow rain]

Is it for garrison ?

[quasi shoal]

Oh my god bruh

It's for funds gain on mios

[snow rain]

Me when I waste ic

[kind vale]

Not a waste to me

[snow rain]

You gain funds proportional to the ic produced

[kind vale]

More tank = more funds

[tulip thorn]

Much better

[kind vale]

Plus I can sell them to the ai

Make bank

[snow rain]

If you produce low cost dogshit, you'll get same xp than if you produce high cost stuff

[quasi shoal]

And trick them into using shitholes of tanks

[kind vale]

So i can invade them later

[snow rain]

They also prioritize higher stats (armor mainly)

[kind vale]

I will force them down italys throat

[tulip thorn]

Time to force the ai to buy medium tanks with 0 stats but armor

[kind vale]

plus im just waiting to make good ones till I got the basic medium tank

[quasi shoal]

And then they make space marines you cant pierce ❤️‍🩹

[kind vale]

Italy wouldn't dare

[snow rain]

Build interwar mediums or useful equipment

[kind vale]

No

[tulip thorn]

My 2 width infantry will win trust

[quasi shoal]

😭

[snow rain]

Or good lights
Don't just waste ic :(

[kind vale]

No

[quasi shoal]

🍅

[kind vale]

Ill do what I want with my ic

Its sp

[quasi shoal]

Basic meds are good if you need reliability

Plus more armor

[snow rain]

When inamovible object meets unstoppable force

[kind vale]

As if the ai could stop me

Maybe Switzerland

[snow rain]

Reli is a myth. Don't trust big reli

[quasi shoal]

Used to think that then i studied up 😼

Still think it's not that important but i realized how bad super shitty reliability is

[kind vale]

Make speedy tanks

Speed is best stat trust

[quasi shoal]

Tanks are slow

[snow rain]

Gotta go, I'll leave you cookers get cooked in your newest generation of tommy cookers

[pale flare]

yall im trynna get the austria hungary achievement thing, i got to this far in the tree and the austrians accepted and became a puppet then a new focus tree showed up, rushing to get tothe a thousand year federation the right call

[quasi shoal]

I ran an armored car speed spam build on uk and i decimated germany

Meant to kill sovs but they joined my faction and jap declared on me

[kind vale]

Not if you put an afterburner on it

[quasi shoal]

And they had no org so i just retreated from china

[quasi shoal]

What's the fastest you can get with that

[kind vale]

Light speed

[quasi shoal]

Denied! 😂

[kind vale]

Faster than dark speed

[quasi shoal]

Light speed=dark speed

[kind vale]

Dark is actually faster than light

[quasi shoal]

No

[kind vale]

Yes

[quasi shoal]

Dark isn't really a thing

[kind vale]

Dark is infinite speed

[quasi shoal]

It's the absence of light

If you move light at light speed

[kind vale]

Tell that to dark matter

[quasi shoal]

The "dark" fills the gap at light speed

[quasi shoal]

Completely different thing

[kind vale]

No the dark was there before the light left

[quasi shoal]

And slower than light speed iirc

[quasi shoal]

What

[kind vale]

Yes

[ornate marlin]

whats the meta german tankdoctrine

[digital aurora]

Jesus Christ Spain became a naval super power with 259 ships in the Mediterranean

[quasi shoal]

If you running sp art

Iirc it's self propelled support and mobile defense

[ornate marlin]

yea

[quasi shoal]

Could be wrong tho

[ornate marlin]

ill give it a try now

[pseudo raven]

It's ai in early game, I rushed aa and then clicked auto plan

[digital aurora]

A lot of these are pretty bad designs so I might refit some into carriers and use the rest as a reserve for my Black Sea fleet

[ornate marlin]

so hold on

how do you actually gain mastery

[quasi shoal]

Training or fighting

[real tulip]

as you can see, 1,140 divisions are prepared for war on 1944, 360 more under training

[vital cove]

are you on scrapping the barrel or something how'd you have 80M manpower

[real tulip]

i used console 🤫

[vital cove]

lol

[real tulip]

you better not tell them.

[pale flare]

thats a lot lmao

[real tulip]

stalin's portrait seems unhappy lol

[pale flare]

i would be too if im in an all out civil war lmao

[molten forge]

how do i increase special forces cap

[gleaming iron]

you cant

[molten forge]

good joke

[green lodge]

Tip of the spear

And with more divs trained, more special forces can be deployed

[boreal star]

hello, i just started the game and watched couple tutorials, if im playing as italy does navy is really important? its the most confusing one

[gleaming iron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvHT121_lWQ

this is the best one

[boreal star]

i watched this one

[gleaming iron]

i recommend it

[gleaming iron]

watch it on 0.75 speed

[boreal star]

okay

[real tulip]

done my calculations, that should be enough divisions, right?

[molten forge]

btw it like doesnt let me train normal infantry even though its part of my division design

[knotty vortex]

why cant i click the war notification

like i cant see casulaties etc

[real tulip]

play the game, could lead to peace treaty, it happened to me

like 10 mins ago

[knotty vortex]

i mean

i dont want a peace treaty

[real tulip]

you're cooked

[kind vale]

How many factories should I have on fighters and cas as germany by 1939

[knotty vortex]

im not

[icy crescent]

Imagine a mod that adds more stars to the US flag after annexing countries.

[real tulip]

around like idk 25, i got 50 for my bombers and fighters

[kind vale]

So 5x what i got now.

[real tulip]

new division count

[real tulip]

you can keep it 5 factories

just be quick with the land forces

[kind vale]

Alright

I got 300 fighters rn

And 260 cas

[real tulip]

this will be good enough for the war

[kind vale]

[real tulip]

ignore my missles

[kind vale]

What year are you at

[real tulip]

1944 with cheats

i mean 1943

[kind vale]

😭

Makes sense

Usa do be cheating

[real tulip]

🦅

[kind vale]

Should be 20 billion in active service

[real tulip]

you sure?

[simple vine]

are space marines still a thing and what is the best cheap def template

[kind vale]

Yes

[kind vale]

Cheap sp aa

[simple vine]

uh

sp? aa?

[kind vale]

Spa

Light spa

Self propelled anti air

[pale flare]

amazing

[real tulip]

this could double my army size

[kind vale]

Ew basic icons

[gleaming iron]

would you rather:

[kind vale]

Destroy congress

They suck

[gleaming iron]

british raj

not usa

[real tulip]

2400 divisions 😭

[kind vale]

Go against congress

[kind vale]

Damnn

[gleaming iron]

thanks for the idea imma add to stay neutral and destroy congress under take direct actions

[kind vale]

[real tulip]

Respect, Power, Banana! Banana!

strong army

strong airforce

weak navy and garrisons

[gleaming iron]

let me guess. harsh quotas

[kind vale]

Bro who are you attacking??? God?

[real tulip]

earth

[kind vale]

Colonize space

There should be a mod for that

[real tulip]

UN soldier seeing 2400+ divisions taking over earth

[kind vale]

One that makes it to where you can colonize space

[simple vine]

huh wth is that

[kind vale]

Next we take the moon

[real tulip]

me vs earth

[real tulip]

in 1969

in 1985, we will send soldiers to mars to exterminate the aliens

[kind vale]

And in 1991 we will take over Jupiter

[real tulip]

every earth soldier regretting joining the military

[kind vale]

Ima have to invade the Spanish

Italy is weak

[real tulip]

anywyas, time to move on

[kind vale]

I need to secure the south

[molten forge]

so