hoi4-general

[knotty vortex]

coal screws me over

[molten forge]

Then screw coal over

[knotty vortex]

no

i wanna screw the dutch over

and the french for that matter

[viscid swift]

ngl i dont know about you but i love minors (IN HOI4)

[spiral sphinx]

majors aint so special

[terse skiff]

we actually need giraffes in the game

[viscid swift]

giraffe divisions in africa

or elefant divisions in\

my cat is eating my router brb

[viscid swift]

in india

[fickle thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274052083397562409/1287044807520419892/PoPivu.gif

[fallen vigil]

historically accurate

[quiet vessel]

paradox really picked coal over this gem

[terse skiff]

the giraffes stole all of the coal

[quiet vessel]

i formed roman empire and needed more coal than there was on earth😭✌️

i was in like a 1500 deficit

[terse skiff]

i think pdx fixed it?

[quiet vessel]

and could get abt 500 from trade

idk this was last month so

[gusty oracle]

I haven't played since coal update

is it bad

[terse skiff]

when i owned the world as ussr i had like 1500 coal surplus with like 4500 factories

[quiet vessel]

kind of

its just annoying

[terse skiff]

it was bad in the first week since you could never get enough coal but pdx threw a quickfix so now coal is a cheap resource at least if you're a major

[quiet vessel]

why isnt there an autotrade feature😭

[gusty oracle]

oh

[quiet vessel]

yo hear me out guys

what if

divisions had morale

[terse skiff]

because hoi4 trade code is broken so you're forced to dump 75% of your resources into the sea instead of stocking them

[quiet vessel]

good morale = bonuses, bad morale = negative modifiers

[terse skiff]

morale in hoi4 is just organization

[quiet vessel]

i think resources should be more like fuel

they can be stockpiled over time

i also think there should be more benefits to staying on civilian economy

i dont get how it wouldnt give stability

i'd think the country would be a bit more stable and have happier people if they have more factories makin stuff for em

[terse skiff]

strikes were supposed to simulate people resisting war economy but war support stays at 100% post ww2

[hexed furnace]

Germany attmepting to anchluss me did not go very well for them

[light tendon]

i did it

[quiet vessel]

i love it when i do one speech and suddenly all my nationwide strikes disappear

why dont they do this irl

[edgy vigil]

could someone explain air to me

[wicked glacier]

there something worng in this but i cant find it

[light tendon]

switzerland

[wicked glacier]

[light tendon]

im taking them out now

[wicked glacier]

good luck but may i ask my is poland still alive?

and how did you go in war with france but not with britan???????

[light tendon]

i released puppets bcs iwas in this situation i beat the allies sept 1939

[wicked glacier]

oh ok

why is romaina against you wtf? isnt it supposed to help you?

[quick trout]

What are the best divisions templates?

[wicked glacier]

wich exactly?

tanks, infantry... ?

[quick trout]

Infantry

[wicked glacier]

wich country?

[light tendon]

i declared war against multiple coutnries

for fun

[quick trout]

Ussr or Germany

[light tendon]

and yugoslavia was guaranteed by romania

ig

[wicked glacier]

nice

[wicked glacier]

this and you can make it cheaper in early game remove some art if you want

and if you want to make it cheaper then remove recon to

[quick trout]

What are some good tank templates

[wicked glacier]

early game? or late game?

[quick trout]

More early game

[wicked glacier]

oh and what i showed you aren't the best it depends on your situation @quick trout

[wicked glacier]

1m wtf when did they had many ppl?

[fickle thicket]

tf is this template

[wicked glacier]

?

[light tendon]

idk

[fickle thicket]

hella expensive

[wicked glacier]

...

[wicked glacier]

...

[fickle thicket]

go down to 1 arty

and add an inf battalion

perfect line holder and offensive unit

[wicked glacier]

you can use that in late game sorry didnt had a pic for early you can just switch them with improved tanks and remove logistic comapny a or replace it with flame tanks if you want but it will be expensiv you can remove some tanks to make it cheaper too

and dont make a lot of them if you dont have many res just make one div of them to attack

that for singel player but in multi you need to make them much cheaper i think i dont play multi much so i think its better to make it cheaper

[safe wing]

36 width infantry with aa, medium flame tanks, support arty and hopsitals

and add shovels if you can afford it

[icy wyvern]

how are u supposed to play communist portugal and join the civil war

you get 8 division and then have to defend against everyone

[safe wing]

short answer you don't

[icy wyvern]

have you played it?

[safe wing]

I have Portugal has better paths (fascist, Monarchist)

[icy wyvern]

but how did you do it then?

[sudden thistle]

shove out small under equipped divs

[safe wing]

it was tedious

[icy wyvern]

what do you mean,

[sudden thistle]

fight 1 spain at a time

[icy wyvern]

i’m only up against nationalist spain

[safe wing]

fight the most powerful reactionary faction first

[icy wyvern]

and the fascist portugal

[sudden thistle]

12w infantry with like 1 gun per 12 people

[safe wing]

you can go communist without a civil war

[sudden thistle]

kill the other portugal first

[safe wing]

I think

just keep your stability high

[icy wyvern]

hard tho because they have more divisons

[icy wyvern]

no i join the spanish civil war

[sudden thistle]

u gotta try it though

[icy wyvern]

yeah

[safe wing]

Monarchist Portugal is better because you can core Brazil

which gives you a insane amount of manpower

[icy wyvern]

yeah but i want to try the communist one

i will just watch an tutorial on the first civil war path and then play along alone

[hollow pulsar]

👀

[forest summit]

Combat width for tank division is 30?

[sudden thistle]

36

[forest summit]

Do you have a screenshot of a template ?

[vapid jackal]

does anyone have good knowledge of the new factions

[quasi shoal]

read pins of ask-for-help-here

[shrewd talon]

yall, everytime i play as historical germany and invaded poland and dutch, im stuck at belgium, i just cant push into them, do yall know any tips?

on how i can defeat them

[fair horizon]

modern tanks 🤮

[fickle thicket]

have 1 army on belgium and if ur having supply issues pull out ur tanks if u dont have air supremacy ramp up on fighter production

[wicked glacier]

Why do you think they are bad?

[fair horizon]

resource cost

costs chromium iirc

for negligible stats compared to the medium right before it

[wicked glacier]

I didnt say they are cheap you can replace them with improved medium Tanks

[fair horizon]

also no secondary turrets

[wicked glacier]

I Just Like Them BC they are Better

Yeah IT hard to get many but still IT much stronger

[fair horizon]

not really

armor wise mabye

but you have to build up another production line for a vehicle you cant stack as much soft attack on

[wicked glacier]

I am on Mobile so sadly i can't Show you the Stat dif but you can try your self

[fair horizon]

i have

improved better

improved can get secondary cannons and secondary mg

modern cant

[wicked glacier]

I can get max 1.4k Breaktrough max with IT and you say Not much..

[wicked glacier]

Still Not Better then modern Tanks

[fair horizon]

also by the time you get to modern tanks you'll have won the air war so it doesnt matter

it is better for soft attack

[wicked glacier]

...

Bro over all improved are Better but when it comes to pure Qualität modern are Better

ITS Just the fact that they are expensiv and you get them very late

But they are still much stronger

[fair horizon]

not by the time you can even get enough of them out

[wicked glacier]

By 1944-1945 i am Sure you would have many mil Factories

[fair horizon]

you still have to build up efficiency

you can have that with mediums for a while

[wicked glacier]

Bro Just Stop this this is pointless IT clear pure Qualität modern over all medium

[fair horizon]

alright bud ignore the extra soft attack you get from secondary turrets for rp

[fair horizon]

didnt even use secondary cannons lol

scuffed comparison

[wicked glacier]

your break trough is high but your soft attack is low as i said over all medium qualtiy modern

[fair horizon]

also medium has more breakthrough

you literally used the wrong secondary

[fair horizon]

told you moderns arent worth it

[wicked glacier]

😭

[fair horizon]

also why would you use a medium weapon on this heavy?

[wicked glacier]

i am talking about that pure quality is modern but over all this medium i never said they are better over all

[wicked glacier]

??

[wicked glacier]

oh didnt see its havy wait a sec

[fair horizon]

honestly i feel like moderns should get buffed ngl

[wicked glacier]

they are op but expensiv

got off my bed to turn o my pc just for this🥲

[fair horizon]

they're honestly not that op

[wicked glacier]

they have 2x the soft attack💀

[fair horizon]

you could have that medium tank at pretty full efficiency just to swap over to a modern which costs more to produce

they dont

look at the stats

[wicked glacier]

ok the break trough is much lower but its still better in pure qaultiy

[fair horizon]

same soft attack

[surreal mist]

modern tanks 💀

[fair horizon]

keep in mind if you dont have any of those mediums it will reflect that in your division template

[surreal mist]

useless garbage

[wicked glacier]

😭

[fair horizon]

17.94 vs 23.67 cost. might as well make heavies for that ic

[wicked glacier]

ok bro i just give up good night man

[surreal mist]

modern tanks not having the ability to mount extra turrets cooked it as a real unit

[fair horizon]

now ill give you one thing with moderns, they have maximum drip

[surreal mist]

they can mount super-heavy cannon iirc

but eh, heavies can do that too

so, why use the expensive garbage when there's a cheaper, better option

[fair horizon]

drip

also speed technically

[wicked glacier]

I Just Like Them 😭

[fair horizon]

based

as a naval enjoyer i respect that

[runic spoke]

anyone know why sheeps mod is delisted?

[wicked glacier]

Ok i Will give the medium Tank a try tomorrow and see how good they are comperd to modern

In the battelfield

(get ready USSR😈 )

[surreal mist]

sheep delisted until update because people kept asking and he got annoyed

[runic spoke]

lmao alright

[stiff heart]

Yo

Is Japan endsiege even possible

[lusty river]

this is awesome especially the kola encirclement

[stiff heart]

First time playing hoi4, kinda nervous

[old lake]

So basically to win the game you need to send Rudolph Hess across the English Channel to sign peace with England

[stiff heart]

Or I invade Luxembourg

[old lake]

Send like 5 soldiers

[sonic jacinth]

WHY DOES HE HAVE 10 ATTACK

??????

[stiff heart]

"Luxembourg has declared war"

[old lake]

I feel like someone has married a tank before

[ripe cedar]

gng i think my HOI4 title screen has problems

or is it jus me

[green plume]

swap that to artillery bro

92 soft attack ez

[fair horizon]

our hearts of iron

[old lake]

Thank you, hitler

[ripe cedar]

POV:me after being set on fire

[old lake]

I heard in Switzerland they fix broken things with cheese

[untold current]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYW94Z2h0d216a3BmZXI0c2JpaGRuczMzd294MzliMzQ4N2xhMHF1MyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/mclPCnEAhX2TxBsndj/giphy.gif

[sharp sierra]

im shishh and your rwong

[steady shale]

I know this has been asked to death, but I'm lazy and not willing to search in the server (lmao) but does anyone know a good way/mod to reduce fps drops late game?

Actually (for me) it happens early game as well, even tho I have a good pc

[sharp sierra]

hmmmmmm

[old lake]

What part

[rustic basalt]

Does defensive units need artillery

[old lake]

Adds 24 defence i think

[sharp sierra]

all

[rustic basalt]

Is that good I have played for 5 hours only

[sharp sierra]

you didnt hear that in switzerland, you were not there

they dont fix broken things

[old lake]

Why not

[sharp sierra]

and especially not with cheese

[old lake]

Are they stupid

Why not fix broken things

[sharp sierra]

theyre broke

like u

[old lake]

Nah i have the highest GDP Per capita in my entire town

[sharp sierra]

i said u not the people in ur town

[old lake]

Yeah me

I have it

[sharp sierra]

u have nothing

[rustic basalt]

Do I add tanks to defensive units

[old lake]

Who are you facing off with?

[sharp sierra]

it could help to have armor in the defensive unit to block some damage

[rustic basalt]

I'm playing Germany

[old lake]

Maybe against allies

But anti-tank artillery works the same

And is cheaper

[sharp sierra]

well if ur playing normal germany better to just use the tanks for attacking units

[rustic basalt]

Aight

[silk gust]

What does the x mark mean?

[sharp sierra]

it means its not fulfilled

show ethiopia

[sharp sierra]

hm

[split bane]

I don't think you can actually make Italian East Africa if Ethiopia does the Board the Train focus

[sharp sierra]

idk maybe its just bugged this game sucks clausewitz engine sucks

this game sucks ass dude i stopped playing

im jk

[silk gust]

Should I just realease Ethiopia then

[split bane]

Since Italy needs to own the states and if Ethiopia is a government in exile they still technically own the states

Italy just controls them

[silk gust]

Also for some reason on historical play through I went. Idk if it was the mods I was using but both India Egypt and a lot of British subjects were free for some reason

[warped flint]

its almost 38

[lusty river]

Guys i did funny Finland stuff in siberia

[dusky burrow]

Ah yes White Siberia

[lusty river]

Indeed

also i didnt get any achivement for this

i didnt have any since before either

[warped flint]

italy couldnt beat ethiopia fast enough

uh

Havent ever seen this before

Historical

[peak mason]

why are templates so complicated

[dusky burrow]

The Italian and German AIs RIP

[atomic grove]

how tf are those divs low strength already

its still 1940

what did germany even do to starve their divisions

[warped flint]

Click shift when making a field marshall frontline

[dusky burrow]

Cycle attacking after cycle attacking

So much cycle attacking and before you know it, no German division strength left

But they still took the Maginot

[spiral prawn]

Hello people

[green lodge]

Hallo 🥀

[woeful hinge]

I am in the process of the learning the game( just purchased off Steam). What are the most important DLC's to buy for a new player? I appreciate any help!

Sorry if I am posting in the wrong rooms...I want to take advantage of the Steam sales. I really do appreciate any help!

[craggy trail]

Hello! Welcome!

[kind vale]

Aat is a good one, and no step back

[craggy trail]

First DLC people usually get is No Step Back for tank designer

Followed by By Blood Alone, Arms Against Tyranny

[woeful hinge]

Thank you so much I really appreciate it

[craggy trail]

No problem 🦒

[terse hemlock]

Guys battle royale achievement works? Lit i try like 10 times

[errant remnant]

I need some advice peeps... currently germany but i feel like im about to collapse icl too many fronts and my divisions suck

[quasi shoal]

why is china in the allies

[errant remnant]

difk

[quasi shoal]

just go bum rush china and you win

[errant remnant]

Im tryna

[quasi shoal]

get good air and good supply

or go around and naval invade

[errant remnant]

i cant break tho

[quasi shoal]

do you have supply

and air

[errant remnant]

idk how to naval LMAOO

i rarley play HOI4 idk what supply even does

what air??

like CO2?

[quasi shoal]

oh my god bruh

[errant remnant]

and H2O

[quasi shoal]

have you taken a science class 😭

[errant remnant]

Not for a year

[quasi shoal]

have you ever clicked on the battle bubble buttons

and hovered over any of your stats

[errant remnant]

what

[quasi shoal]

h2o is water bruh

[errant remnant]

oh

I thought that was Oxygen

[quasi shoal]

oxygen is an element

the oxygen we breath is O2

[errant remnant]

Same thing blablabla

[quasi shoal]

anyways

air is planes

[errant remnant]

Oh yea

[quasi shoal]

yk the bubbles

[errant remnant]

i have got air sup

[quasi shoal]

when you attack smth

[quasi shoal]

do you have cas

good cas

[errant remnant]

likethe green and red shi

cats?

i like dogs more

[quasi shoal]

yes

[errant remnant]

oh hold on

[quasi shoal]

you can not be a real person bruh

[errant remnant]

you mean dis

?

[quasi shoal]

yes

hover over the stats of your divs

[quasi shoal]

oh my god are you pushing with inf

and why do you have the nato things on 😭

[errant remnant]

Yea?I DONT PLAY MUCH

WHAT NATO?!?!

[quasi shoal]

the symbols

[errant remnant]

RAHHH soo confusing

[quasi shoal]

for your divisions

ok so

[errant remnant]

i didnt pick em

does that matter or sm?

[quasi shoal]

your divisions are trying to push in mountains and jungles with no food, guns, or anything else

that's why you're not breaking

they're literally living off of the land cuz they have no supply

you need to build supply hubs and railways connected to your capital

[errant remnant]

No food? theres bugs n shi right?

[quasi shoal]

or use supply planes

[quasi shoal]

no good food

imagine trying to fight a war when you're living off of dirt and river water

maybe not even dirt cuz they're in the mountains

[errant remnant]

btw this who im fighting

easy

bruh

i sent that AGES AGO

only JUST sent

crazy

They just got my capital

i died

[quasi shoal]

oh my god bruh

[errant remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-crying-downfall-sad-tears-praying-gif-7785197299162436598

WTF IS THIS CURSED SHI

GODDAMNIT!!!!!-

[mystic zinc]

I know I shouldn'T be asking help from here but

Is there anyone who understands from 3d Unit Models assignment?

[mystic zinc]

Like,I have been asking repeatedly in #modding I couldn't get any help,I have made my models,etc but yet I can't just assign my country the target entity

[quasi shoal]

remove corsica

[vocal relic]

Corsica is part of italy now so its not france

[quasi shoal]

it's too french

remove belgium, luxembourg, and switzerland too to be safe

[vocal relic]

No not luxembourg please

[quasi shoal]

they're too french

[vocal relic]

😱

[buoyant fractal]

nice going bhutan

[vocal relic]

Wadiya Dlc Next

They should add big focus tree to wadiya

[midnight galleon]

why hoi4 stinky

[vocal relic]

Because no wadiya Focus Tree

Yo

[midnight galleon]

ok

[vocal relic]

What Nations Yall Want A Focus Tree For

[midnight galleon]

idk i just want liechtenstein

[vocal relic]

Your not gonna belive this...

[quasi shoal]

romania

the current focus tree sucks

[midnight galleon]

i do road to 56 a lot and liechtenstein is in it

i dont have any dlcs

[quasi shoal]

they should've saved czech focus tree for a little entente dlc

[vocal relic]

Oh

[vocal relic]

Fr that was what i thought too

[midnight galleon]

i joined this cus i only really play hoi4 with one friend

and he always tries to play with me when im bored with hoi4

so i joined this to get him to join and get OTHERS

TO PLAY

with him

(hes worse at hoi4 than me)

[vocal relic]

How many hours you got on hoi

[quasi shoal]

like 500

[midnight galleon]

589 hours

[vocal relic]

Noobs

[midnight galleon]

i only really play it with that one friend

[quasi shoal]

I almost beat a 2k hour germany in france as uk tho 😼

and france was ai 😼

[midnight galleon]

anyone wanna hoi4 with me?

road to 56

(i should not host btw)

[vocal relic]

My Life My Rules

[quasi shoal]

are you actually decent tho

[vocal relic]

Ig

Im okay at the game

[midnight galleon]

id say im okay

[vocal relic]

I play easy nations like el salvador and hungary

[midnight galleon]

but i dont really know

[midnight galleon]

definetly not 1.6 k hours good

or evenr eally 500 hours good

even tho i got 500 hours

[vocal relic]

Best nation in all of hoi4 is either brazil or chile

[quasi shoal]

I mean yeah

[vocal relic]

Maybe peru as well

[quasi shoal]

I don't have the south america dlc so i wouldn't know

[vocal relic]

Peru is not have focus tree still best south america early game

Late game is hard tho

[midnight galleon]

south america has focus trees?

[vocal relic]

Yes in dlcs

Dlc*

Actually very underated imo

But best focus tree is austria

[quasi shoal]

i've never tried it

[vocal relic]

You should

[quasi shoal]

I should soon yeah

[midnight galleon]

i play ck3 more

i like ck3

ck3 very fun

[vocal relic]

Try the liectenstein path

[midnight galleon]

got many dlcs for that

[vocal relic]

Very hard

[midnight galleon]

ck3 not hard

[vocal relic]

Coulfent understand it

Myself

[midnight galleon]

very simply

the friend i paly hoi4

hates ck3

he also think it complicated

and he just tries to murder me

and then refuses to play it

[vocal relic]

Hoi4 players dont understand royal inbreeding sim

[midnight galleon]

i have 1050 hours in ck3

[vocal relic]

But i heard its good

[midnight galleon]

its very good

[vocal relic]

Realpolitiks is also very goos

Good

And AOH3

Does Ck3 Have Religions?

[midnight galleon]

ye

[vocal relic]

Cool

Judasim?

[midnight galleon]

yes

[vocal relic]

Time To Kill The Goys

[midnight galleon]

several versions of it

and special formables for ppl of the diffrent jewish beliefs and cultures

theres one in india

[vocal relic]

Whoa

I might need to learn ck3

[midnight galleon]

new hedgemonies really making game more fun

[vocal relic]

Anyone knows why Paradox Dosent Reference Tragedies In Thier Games?

And National Catastorophy

[midnight galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[quasi shoal]

son

[midnight galleon]

in ck3 you can host smth called a bloody grand wedding

its basicly a huge wedding with diffrent events

but at the end

you kill the other sides whole family

😄

never used it personally tho

[vocal relic]

Dosent let me send messege

[midnight galleon]

but i do see the appeal

rip

you are still allied during bethrothial

so you can bethrothe with grand weddings during war time

and then just kill the other family

😄

after the war

especially with the clan goverment.....

[quasi shoal]

who's excited for the tannu tuvan/luxembourgish/sichuan clique dlcs

it's 30$ for 4 extra focuses

[vocal relic]

ALSO

WHY ISNT ANTARTICA

IN HOI4

ITS IMPORTANT TO WORLD HISTORY AND WW2

[quasi shoal]

ok

[midnight galleon]

MEMEMEME

I WANNA ANNEX SOVIETS AS TANNU TUVA (IT HAPPENED HISTORICALLY I SWEAR)

[vocal relic]

Sichuan Already Has Focus Tree And A Way For Them To Core Tibet

[quasi shoal]

possible

[quasi shoal]

notice the 4 extra focuses

[vocal relic]

Oh eait

[quasi shoal]

everyone has a focus tree

[vocal relic]

Anatrica Update pls

[quasi shoal]

fake

continent

[vocal relic]

https://tenor.com/view/love-you-lots-gif-23136365

Antartica is actually really important and could add new fun content for britian, Netherlands germany, Chile, Argentina, South Africa, Australia And New Zealand

And why arnt animals in hoi4?

[midnight galleon]

dont think antarctica should be added as a playable nation

just add a bunchhh of focuses about antarctica!

and decisions

that would be nice

[vocal relic]

Antartica should be carved like in real life

[midnight galleon]

like smth you can invest in yea

with random possible events and shit

[vocal relic]

Also Moon Landings And Sattelites Please

I think they should add "wildlife" to hoi4

[midnight galleon]

road to 56 is peak

[vocal relic]

With wildlife population in states

[midnight galleon]

and so is kaiserredux

[vocal relic]

Also why does anarchy count as non aligned

This games is T-T-TRASH 🔥🔥🔥🙏

[midnight galleon]

in road to 56 i think theres like communist anarchist

[vocal relic]

Still not enough

[midnight galleon]

ive never used it

[vocal relic]

Should be its own ideolgy with its own rules

Like monrachy whos also non alugned

[midnight galleon]

kaiserredux has many many more diffrent ideologies

😄

[vocal relic]

Yea kaisereich and redux is good

I like great war redux personaly

And rt56 but only one nation in that mod

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[vocal relic]

Also steiners counter attack mod is peak

[vocal relic]

Wassup

[cedar lance]

not much hbu

[vocal relic]

Life is living hell

[midnight galleon]

milenium dawn is fun!

[vocal relic]

Wadiya is now democracy

[vocal relic]

I cant run it

But i can run md classic

And novum vexeliumm which is peak as well

Bhutan nepal tiber dlc next leaked btw

Tibet*

[dusky burrow]

The Axis didn't even stand a chance

[vocal relic]

Ngga what

[midnight galleon]

tf

[vocal relic]

Did you hire godamn john cena as a general

How did you get so many mp dawg

[dusky burrow]

Also this is starting as the Netherlands

[dusky burrow]

MP?

[vocal relic]

Belgium, Austria Or Netherlands?

[quasi shoal]

there is in rt56

[quasi shoal]

67676767677676767676767676

[dusky burrow]

Oh apparently this exists too

[vocal relic]

Albert epstein nit in game

[quasi shoal]

manpower?

[dusky burrow]

Ah yes manpower

[quasi shoal]

it's cuz european union gets insane cores

[vocal relic]

2 years?!

[dusky burrow]

Nope

I was unable to get France

[vocal relic]

European president nit union

[quasi shoal]

61 provinces lost you're washed ❤️‍🩹

[quasi shoal]

they get the same cores right

[vocal relic]

Which is same but harder to get more land

Yea ig

[quasi shoal]

I highk forgot you can do coups

[dusky burrow]

But seriously the answer is the Benelux gives ~22 million core population

Taking 6% of that and you get 1.32 million manpower

But I also annexed the Dutch East Indies

[quasi shoal]

only 6%

?

[vocal relic]

Ninja couped portugal or some shi and called it a day 🥷

[dusky burrow]

That basically pushed me over the top

[dusky burrow]

Oh I couped Siam

[vocal relic]

Wtf

Why What Did They Do Dawg

[dusky burrow]

Well again the Dutch East Indies

[quasi shoal]

did you take malaysia tho

[dusky burrow]

Oh right I could coup them too

[vocal relic]

Play As Chile Next

[quasi shoal]

play as sichuan clique

[vocal relic]

No Nigixa ma is actuall y great tho

But qingahi is best because ma bufang 😍

[dusky burrow]

By the way neither Japan nor Germany took more than a year to defeat

Germany because they kept bashing at my units and lost 3/4 of their HP

[vocal relic]

You could unite ma easily then take over sinkang while doing focuses to gain cores on all of china +crazy cavelry

[dusky burrow]

Japan because it forgot to guard itself from naval invasion, and I actually almost capitulated Japan by like month 2

[vocal relic]

But no mil fac

[dusky burrow]

I was just farming war score

[vocal relic]

Japan is actually kinda weak

But germany is strong

[dusky burrow]

Yeah Japan kind of weak

[vocal relic]

They usually dont have many div on honshu

[midnight galleon]

is it just me that hates navy

and naval invading

ANYTHING

[dusky burrow]

Especially when I got - and this will explain why I suffered so little losses - 19/0s with hospitals, signal companies, assault engineers, anti-air, and support artillery

[vocal relic]

Welcome to hoi4

[midnight galleon]

i have a friend with uh pirate version ((so he cant multi at all)

who LOVES

navy

for some reason

hes a german

[dusky burrow]

It isn't that good of a template, but it is achieveable for 1940

[toxic cypress]

bluds so cooked

[lime peak]

Cost like 5 bucks for the game 💀

[quasi shoal]

19/0s

[dusky burrow]

Navy is somewhat cool tbh

[midnight galleon]

its a lot in european currencies

[quasi shoal]

cuz it's fun

[midnight galleon]

some atleast

[dusky burrow]

Yeah I didn't have all the manpower I wanted

[vocal relic]

Tf is "Earth" 🙏

[toxic cypress]

holy shit their winning

[toxic cypress]

me

[dusky burrow]

If you got a large enough fleet you can reliably just eviscerate the enemy

[vocal relic]

Ngga what mod is this

[dusky burrow]

And land where the enemy doesn't expect you

[toxic cypress]

i shldnt have given the soviets 3k factories

[dusky burrow]

That's when it's quite fun

[toxic cypress]

i was playing wit the map

[dusky burrow]

But you do have to wait 50 days to do that now

[toxic cypress]

and made this

[vocal relic]

Foramble nations?

[quasi shoal]

should've gone scraping the barrel desperate defense

[toxic cypress]

formables n r56

for tech extension

gave all the ai max tech

and sat back

[dusky burrow]

Close call

[vocal relic]

E is for eurasia right?

[toxic cypress]

sadly the soviets beat hungary already

[quasi shoal]

they're

[toxic cypress]

i gave em so much shit

[vocal relic]

Uesr

[dusky burrow]

speaking of desperate defense, that wouldn't have been a bad idea

[toxic cypress]

yep

[midnight galleon]

ima play ck3

[quasi shoal]

💔

[dusky burrow]

Scraping the Barrel is rarely a good idea

[midnight galleon]

any requests for smth to play

as

[quasi shoal]

why would you not do that if manpower was a problem 😭

[toxic cypress]

union of eurasian soviet republics

[quasi shoal]

yeah that was a joke

[dusky burrow]

And I was on limited conscription

[toxic cypress]

ok the soviets r losing now

[dusky burrow]

I forgot rip

I went grand assault, which isn't bad either

[elfin quail]

I just got the game is someone willing to teach

[quasi shoal]

I mean was manpower a problem early on

[dusky burrow]

I overestimated how much manpower I could get before Germany went to war with me, so yes

Ater that, no

[quasi shoal]

yeah the doctrines are dumb so if you switch it replaces all your mastery 💔

and if you switch grand doctrines all your sub doctrines get removed

[dusky burrow]

Yeah rip

[toxic cypress]

i may have made the axis too strong

[woven grove]

waiit guys are you playing rn?

[quasi shoal]

not me it's too late

[dusky burrow]

Also too late for me too

[dusky burrow]

Unfortunate

[dusky burrow]

At the same time I had free mastery because the Germans kept cycle charging me

And even when I was lacking manpower I could get like 10 mastery a month

So I could switch, and if I intend to continue I might just switch

[toxic cypress]

it was weaker but they linked up with 3 other facist factions

[quasi shoal]

actually I don't think it matters too much

[toxic cypress]

commies had strong start but broke up

[quasi shoal]

iirc most of the desperate defense stuff besides the recruitable pop is kinda mid

[toxic cypress]

commies dropped the ball

[vocal relic]

Earth

[dusky burrow]

Like if I did go desperate defense I would recruit everyone and then switch to grand assault later on

[toxic cypress]

earth 🌍

[dusky burrow]

And also if I would continue I would transition to a special forces build

[toxic cypress]

something cool is everytime the 2 democratic factions win a war

they give me the land

[vocal relic]

Just dowalnd steiners counter attack mod

[toxic cypress]

by liberating me

so its really fun to just watch

allies got encircled

ggs democracy

your cooked

[dusky burrow]

Speaking of two democratic factions going to war, do you think I can win if I go to war with the Allies with the Comintern

[cedar lance]

hello

[quasi shoal]

wdym with the cominterm

if you mean alongside then yeah

if you have enough divs

[dusky burrow]

Yeah alongside

I have like 52 divs right now, but I am recruiting more people

I can probably double it to 100 or more if I continued playing

[cedar lance]

wassup yalls

[toxic cypress]

allies evolved into nato and is now trashing the axis

[azure palm]

I am confident that the Japan Monarchist Tree is the strongest there is

[toxic cypress]

like completely trashing axis

i think axis prolly will lose now

[azure palm]

How does that work anyways?

[toxic cypress]

no idea but south america which i made super strong

joined in

rn brazil is the 3rd strongest in land and sea

[azure palm]

Wait, are you playing as the UN?

[green lodge]

Uh hallo

[toxic cypress]

yep

[green lodge]

I've taken over british burma as princely bs
Do I get to keep it during territorial concessions 🥀

[inner iron]

Democratic Japan trashes the world too

[dusky burrow]

Ah yes the UN (definitely)

[toxic cypress]

yeah their cooked

its actually insane

how strong i made the soviets

i think i did too much

they have almost 2x the british navy

[azure palm]

what is a UESR?

[inner iron]

Union of Eurasian/European Socialist Republics

[azure palm]

ahh

[azure palm]

Only English here

[toxic cypress]

eurasian ssr

they probably will win this whole thing

once the axis falls they can focus on china

and they have cores on china

so that speaks for it self

[green lodge]

Hallo is English, no ?

[azure palm]

Hello=English. Hallo=German.

[inner iron]

Oh nein, entschuldigen

Defo not sarcasm

[toxic cypress]

cooked

[azure palm]

Why... just why are there so many Germans in this server...

To be fair, your Discord name is Keusch. Kinda expectable.

[inner iron]

I'm not German tho

[azure palm]

You speak German though

[inner iron]

It's just a phrase I learned in Berlin

[azure palm]

Then from where are you?

[inner iron]

Estonia

[azure palm]

surely better than being from berlin

[inner iron]

No clue

It's like being from Finland made in China

[azure palm]

true. We are just Bavaria but better here.

[toxic cypress]

the peace deal

looks absolute dog shit

pretty sure the commies will win now doe

[azure palm]

that doesnt seem fair

[inner iron]

If only Vienna wasn't the type of place to suck the fun out of you

[azure palm]

depends on where you go

some places are fun, and some places are just residential areas

[inner iron]

It's the type of place where a cop walks up to you for speaking too loudly near a pub

[azure palm]

depends. On a sunday? Yes.

Anytime else? No.

[toxic cypress]

changed it a lil

[inner iron]

I guess Vienna got really bad rep then

Cause the stereotypes about it are wild

A lot of people describe it as a bland boomer central with loads of culture but no fun to speak of

[azure palm]

yes because we spit at tourists if they leave the tourism parts of vienna.

Its safe to say, we dont like tourists

But the Swiss dont like them either so its fine

[inner iron]

The swiss already got it handled with their monopoly prices

[inner iron]

Dunno who would if it inflates the beer prices

Me going to old town area in my capital just to see a pint of beer being 12-16 euros for no ungodly reason

[azure palm]

tourism in a nuttshell

[inner iron]

https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913

I remember the days when a pint was just 3-4 euros

[azure palm]

I dont know how much a pint is but it definitely was cheaper

[cedar lance]

hello @inner iron

im estonian aswell

[inner iron]

Bless your poor soul I guess

[cedar lance]

im in finland

[azure palm]

how is it on the NATO Ostflanke?

[inner iron]

As long as it's not Helsinki, good for you

[cedar lance]

im in lohja

[cedar lance]

idk

[inner iron]

I drove past it the last time I was in Finland

[cedar lance]

alr

[inner iron]

I have an agreement with my best friend to visit a football match in each country so we watched a match in Turku

[cedar lance]

btw my mom lives in espoo keskus

[midnight galleon]

anyone wanna play road to 56 MP with me and my friend

[molten forge]

What country is fun to play if I try to learn

[cedar lance]

well imo Germany

[molten forge]

Anything, less overwhelming if it's ok

[cedar lance]

alr

idk

[molten forge]

I've been playing the small nations like baltics,

[cedar lance]

alr

i mostly play Estonia

[molten forge]

Tho the Germans crush me

[cedar lance]

alr

[molten forge]

I play Albanja ig

[cedar lance]

alr

i did buy the new dlc expansion

[molten forge]

Which one?

[cedar lance]

the New one called NCNS

[molten forge]

And what does it add

[cedar lance]

well a NEW ranger unit

and some new SPs

[molten forge]

Is it 12 bucks

With discount

[cedar lance]

it costs

well

30 euros or dollars

[molten forge]

Makes sense

No extra focus trees? No extra stuff to create new tanks or planes or ships

[silk plover]

why does my spanish division wanna take a tour of africa instead of just invading into morocco

[molten forge]

Maybe they wanna have fun

[cedar lance]

i like the super heavy maus ratte and super heavy arty tanks

i like RPing in hoi4

tho not in MP

[molten forge]

I heard of space marines

[cedar lance]

alr

[molten forge]

Also do you have like all dlcs

[cedar lance]

yes i do

[molten forge]

I have just the resistance

[cedar lance]

alr

[molten forge]

Do you think I should get the rest of play the game more before getting them

[cedar lance]

idk

[molten forge]

I mean, what's a dlc you would reccomend

[cedar lance]

well imo the NCNS is good

[dusky burrow]

NCNS is not the worst tbh

Navy's finicky though

[copper cobalt]

No step back o.o

[tame copper]

Hello

Red flood is peak

[junior imp]

Arms Agaisnt Tyranny

Which ever DLC gets you Poland

No Step Back I think?

Not sure

and Götterdamerung

[paper echo]

Try out collapsing world

It's so peak

[tame copper]

I have

[paper echo]

I think non ally troops can't pass Gibraltar that's why

[sudden grotto]

You lack the relations with uk tò use the strait ig?

[tulip thorn]

Then they wouldnt be able to use the suez

Its because they dont have access through the north africa side of the strait

[sudden grotto]

True...a true paradox.

[sudden grotto]

Goated morocco iron

[tulip thorn]

Alot of people dont know that the strait of Gibraltar is 2 sides in game, Gibraltar and north africa

[molten forge]

Thanks man, btw do you customize planes a lot or not really

[tulip thorn]

Realistic resources mod my beloved

Africa is worth fighting for

and france has some oil

[sudden grotto]

"african resources were crucial tò europeans"
Average african hoi4 resource: 1 oil or 2 Rubber, take It or leave

[tulip thorn]

lol true

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-intensifies-freedom-murica-merica-america-gif-17137351183953435312

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-my-little-pony-derpy-derpy-hooves-1000-yards-stare-gif-7762550659989792279

[pseudo raven]

i thought it will be much harder

[tulip thorn]

Cant this literally be cheesed by playing non hist

or turning la resistance off

[pseudo raven]

idk

Germany can have alot of spies prety erly

[tulip thorn]

The new faction stuff has made getting 10+ spies so easy as every nation

[tulip thorn]

Still didnt make the spy stuff super useful sad, Collab govs and cipher my beloved

[pseudo raven]

sad true

[tulip thorn]

most of it is just useless

Most players dont even use it. And those who do use collabs and nothing else

[pseudo raven]

2 spy slots here also great

[tulip thorn]

Ciphers are nice aswell

[tulip thorn]

I did that side once and never again

[pseudo raven]

it's prety good for "peaceful Germany"

[tulip thorn]

Peaceful germany 💔

[pseudo raven]

every game as german ends like that at 1940 i guess

[tulip thorn]

not 39 smh

1937 roman empire

[pseudo raven]

paratroopers abuse?

[tulip thorn]

yes

Im not one who does it often. But forming rome in late 36 is fun

[pseudo raven]

eventualy i should do it for achivment

as a pope form roman empire

[tulip thorn]

How many achievements do you have

[pseudo raven]

not much

[tulip thorn]

more than 10

[pseudo raven]

15

[tulip thorn]

in how many hours

[pseudo raven]

i have bought game a week ago

abt 40hrs

[tulip thorn]

💀

new gen with more achievements than me

[pseudo raven]

i played several years on pirate version and now having achievements available giving new charm for game

[silk plover]

greece kills my dreams again by making their own shitty alliance that nobody else is gonna join

[tulip thorn]

Well congrats on getting the game

[cedar lance]

can someone pls join helping lounge 1 pls

[lethal ether]

question, when doing integrate czechoslovakia, do you core all of it?

[pseudo raven]

only sudets

[tulip thorn]

What do you need help with

[lethal ether]

ah i thought its better than that, thanks tho

[cedar lance]

estonia stuff in hoi4

[pseudo raven]

surviving ussr?

[cedar lance]

yes

[tulip thorn]

I'd assume very similar to finland, Never tried estonia tbh

[pseudo raven]

I have seen funny tik tok where dude is showing his Latvian game and telling "If u struggle to survive soviets

do early heavy tanks"

can't tell if it works today

[cedar lance]

i want to know what to do

i need to talk

[inner iron]

Achievements are tiring

[tulip thorn]

Thats why I only have 10

[cedar lance]

someone pls join

[pseudo raven]

https://tenor.com/view/sneaking-up-goblin-slayer-creeping-creepy-hoots-gif-13084136

[pseudo raven]

i already hate special projects

[tulip thorn]

I love them

Some of them are so nice

[pseudo raven]

yes

[tulip thorn]

and the 2 best ones are early game

[pseudo raven]

but waiting for this reaserch points

[pseudo raven]

https://youtu.be/X-Ec_d3tcuw?si=G5G6hW4U7tGNqfUk

[tulip thorn]

Flame tanks and military engineering vehicle are a must have

[pseudo raven]

probably can help u

[pseudo raven]

i need land cruisers for achievement

[tulip thorn]

go research land warfare stuff

it helps

Like just research all anti tank

[inner iron]

Who needs tryhard equipment when you have many nukes

[tulip thorn]

Nuking zombies lol

[pseudo raven]

"killing 99.9% of bacteria"

[tulip thorn]

Nuclear texas the walking dead

[inner iron]

Each strike counts as "ending the world" strike which nukes every single enemy province

[pseudo raven]

actualy why farance is alive

[inner iron]

And I have that queued multiple times

[silk plover]

so they wont join me because im yugoslavia and "distance"

but theyll join japan

[inner iron]

The zombies went from 5k divisions down to 30 divs

[tulip thorn]

The worst timeline

[pseudo raven]

cursed mechanic

[silk plover]

dawg

[inner iron]

I usually exploit it

[tulip thorn]

Rip

[cedar lance]

mothaquacka

[pseudo raven]

still can't figure it out

[pseudo raven]

what does it mean?

[cedar lance]

wdym

[pseudo raven]

great video about Estonia probably will be helpful for you

[cedar lance]

alr

[inner iron]

I usually produce cheap equipment and sell it on the market for a high price

Ifv's and planes are especially easy to sell

[pseudo raven]

so offices are useless?

[inner iron]

Plus I manipulate debt bailouts

[inner iron]

I never build them

I mostly build mils, civs and sometimes agriculture if I'm a low productivity hellhole

Cause agriculture gives you more fuel gain

If I start off as a democracy, I usually exploit unemployment to force civ factory investments into my country

Which is just free buildings

[pseudo raven]

what about influence?

isn't it growing like crazy because of foreign investments?

[inner iron]

It's a bunch of democracies fighting for that influence so I don't see that being a problem

It's only problematic as an emerging power where it's only Russia stacking investments

[cedar lance]

im watching the vid

[inner iron]

Pp is usually plentiful for me, especially with the generic focus tree

[pseudo raven]

and?

[swift egret]

Why are we talking about the millenium dawn mod

[cedar lance]

well

hmm

[inner iron]

Cause it's fun to cheese it

[swift egret]

True

[pseudo raven]

it's built on cheese

[inner iron]

The equipment selling is especially hilarious as North Korea because their tank MIO makes their vehicles cost nothing

[swift egret]

I have a question though did any of you guys ever did a world conquest as unita

[pseudo raven]

also bot countries love buying crap

[inner iron]

Every single country is usually starving for ifv's, especially Russia

Easiest thing to sell

[swift egret]

That is true

[swift egret]

But not all countries

[pseudo raven]

i guess i should try millenium India as ifv's merchant

[swift egret]

You could but its so easy

[swift egret]

Do a nation thats in a civil war like unita

[swift egret]

Or south sudan

[pseudo raven]

talking about modern timeline mods, is economic crysis still working?

[inner iron]

I won the Congo civil war in 2 months and then instantly snowballed from it

Cause I crapped out like 30 additional half equipped units and snaked around everywhere

[swift egret]

Hmmmm congo could be fun to play with

[swift egret]

But did you do a world conquest

.

?

[inner iron]

Congo scales really well when countries start starving for tech metals

[green lodge]

Indian civil war is cool

War elephants might be good

[inner iron]

I knocked out NATO and called it a day

Idc about conquering random minors