hoi4-general

[zealous spear]

hist

[heavy vigil]

i was trolling

[copper cobalt]

L

[quasi shoal]

Last time i had a sp loss was on purpose cuz i didn't know how one of the achievements worked

I was italy and i declared on germany and abandoned my main land

[young summit]

My favorite nation is communist china

its a gem

[azure palm]

I remember beating that one only with SS Divisions somehow. Gave up because invading south america was annoying.

[quasi shoal]

I tried holding them back with 3 sp arty divs and it actually worked but i wanted to lose so i pulled back

[heavy vigil]

i hate hoi4 because fiji has no resources and it ruins my immersion

[quasi shoal]

😭

I hate hoi4 cuz they didn't give my state every resource in the game

And 999 of it

[azure palm]

I think Germany is way too overpowerd to play

[quasi shoal]

You can just nerf the ai

Or play multiplayer lol

[heavy vigil]

im not from there wdym

[quasi shoal]

What

[heavy vigil]

i think thats a thing people can guess

[quasi shoal]

Huh?

[heavy vigil]

oh huh quite a lot of people live in fiji

[quasi shoal]

Im not following

Fiji is FAKE

[heavy vigil]

like 880,000?

[heavy vigil]

its rich

[quasi shoal]

only real state is delaware

[heavy vigil]

i know this from minecraft

[quasi shoal]

Delaware might be fake too idk

[quasi shoal]

😭

[heavy vigil]

because it has an earth map with relatively accurate resources (but mega buffed)

and now i know fiji has a lot of gold and minerals

[azure palm]

No, I mean Germany just cant lose if you play it

[quasi shoal]

Rush africa for diamonds

[heavy vigil]

so they should have steel or chromium in game but they DONT

game ruining

[quasi shoal]

I don't think those correlate

[heavy vigil]

chromium is all rare resources clumped together

[quasi shoal]

They should add gold that provides a slight consumer goods reduction 🔥 🥶

[quasi shoal]

Chromium is FAKE

[quasi shoal]

It can

If you are up against powerful opponents

[heavy vigil]

also the pacific ocean

very large

like you wont realize this fully ever

its massive

[quasi shoal]

Wait til you realize

The pacific ocean is just the atlantic ocean

🥶

All oceans are one and they are all FAKE

[azure palm]

Doesnt really happend against late game. The only 2 really powerfull opponents are the Soviets and the USA. And the Japanese and Chinese sometimes

[quasi shoal]

👀

[quasi shoal]

Only 4 really powerful opponents are all of the majors that are alive

🤯

[heavy vigil]

okay so russia is 1/8th of earth, largest country

the pacific ocean is 30% iirc

let me double check

[quasi shoal]

Crazy to think i own it all

[heavy vigil]

yeah about 30%

russia is 12%

[azure palm]

yes, but they arent always alive at that point. China is often gone. Japan is locked down in Asia. And the Soviets are often destroyed from a Civil War

[quasi shoal]

That's if you play ahist

And singleplayer

[heavy vigil]

ahist sp is peak

world goes to shit

[azure palm]

yes, but historical is so boring. You already know whats gonna happen

[quasi shoal]

No you don't 😭

[heavy vigil]

it is generally true

ahist sp is not predictable

[quasi shoal]

I've seen germany win and lose historical games in singleplayer often

[azure palm]

Germany take Austria. Germany take Czechoslowakia. Germany invade Poland. Germany invade Denmark and Norway. Germany invade BeNeLux. Germany invade France. And so on. Its predictable

[quasi shoal]

Never seen an ai germany invade norway tbh

[azure palm]

same, but its still often similar

[toxic cypress]

i hve

[azure palm]

How? They always do that

[quasi shoal]

Not for me

They like always skip that focus idk why

[azure palm]

weird

[heavy vigil]

thats booring

its not like cameroon takes over cambodian faction, becomes major type stuff

[quasi shoal]

I mean ahist is fun but hist is too

[copper cobalt]

ahist is more fun for the unpredictablity

[heavy vigil]

i genuinely dont enjoy hist hoi4 without sheeps mod

too boring

[quasi shoal]

The problem with ahist is nothing ever happens without you (in my experience)

[quasi shoal]

Fair

[copper cobalt]

wha

Not true

[heavy vigil]

ever played minor nations on ahist

[quasi shoal]

Only thing that happens is ussr exploding

[quasi shoal]

Yes

[heavy vigil]

no??

[quasi shoal]

For me

[heavy vigil]

usually every major power gets like mega nerfed

[untold current]

MEOW

[heavy vigil]

because ai cannot handle the ahist paths

and then they brawl it out

[copper cobalt]

For me Germany goes to war too early and stays barely surviving most of the time

[quasi shoal]

I always see:
France does nothing cuz all their focuses take too long
Uk sits there or maybe decolonizes
Ussr explodes
And germany either goes monarchist and does nothing or rushes declaring on the SSSR and then does nothing

[copper cobalt]

Till I save them or put them out of their misery

[little compass]

hi

[heavy vigil]

no dlcs?

on all dlcs like every minor nation does a lot

majors can be sluggish a bit but can do cool stuff

[untold current]

Triple T

[misty fossil]

Have they released any eaw updates

[quasi shoal]

Everything but the ones that are just focuses

[quasi shoal]

How new

[heavy vigil]

missing out

the focus dlcs are not that good for hist but are for ahist

they make the world explode more

[quasi shoal]

Why would i get the dlcs for countries i'll prolly never play 😔

[heavy vigil]

theyre funn

[quasi shoal]

Im not playing iraq😭

[heavy vigil]

but yh dont spend if you dont want to

im just saying

[heavy vigil]

afghanistan is peak

iraq is fun

iran sucks

raj is pretty good

[quasi shoal]

I've heard the whole dlc kinda sucks

[heavy vigil]

for hist yeah

[quasi shoal]

I might get it in the far future

But that future is very far

[heavy vigil]

its weird

the dlc kinda sucks as a concept but the individual nations imo are pretty well done

[misty fossil]

After 2.4

[quasi shoal]

What

[misty fossil]

cats and dogs update was the last one im aware of

[quasi shoal]

When is hoi67 dropping 😂

[quasi shoal]

Idk the update names

But most recent was 17.smth

[misty fossil]

the one that added abyssinia content

[quasi shoal]

Oh im blind

They have not, no

I thought you mispelled new lol

[misty fossil]

Huh

[quasi shoal]

No new eaw updates have released

I mistaked eaw for new

[misty fossil]

Thanks

[azure palm]

Super Heavy Battleships are great, but incredebly annoying to use.

[prisma zealot]

hoi4 players

which of you shower once a day

this is an important survey

[azure palm]

Hello

We exist

[prisma zealot]

do you

[azure palm]

I am literly here!

We might be a small group, but we exist!

[prisma zealot]

well yeah you are

[prisma zealot]

this doesnt answer to my very important question

do you guys shower more than once a year

[azure palm]

once a day. Sometimes twice.

If you want to find no one, go to the valorant or CS2 community

[prisma zealot]

🤨

[prisma zealot]

good idea

thanks

[zealous spear]

can someone give me a picture of a good dvision against ai that will beat all the ai

[azure palm]

there isnt a division that will beat all AI

it also depends on what nation youre playing and where you are fighting

Mountaineers will be better in the Mountains, Marines in the Jungle, etc.

[zealous spear]

am playing germany historical and i want to beat usa and ussr

everytime i get cooked by usa or ussr

[azure palm]

USSR you can use basicly anything, but for cold mountaineers are good.

For USA, use tanks, marines and airforce as well as infantry. You need to invade canada though.

[zealous spear]

i just want to defend against usa my plan isnt rlly to beat them my goal for now is to defend

[quasi shoal]

Rangers are better

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/timmytoughknuckles-gif-17877644769817608506

[azure palm]

I still dont know what they are

[quasi shoal]

New special force

[azure palm]

Those Armored Infantry things or something. Dont know the name

[azure palm]

but what is their use case?

[zealous spear]

mechanized?

[viscid stirrup]

im literally timmy tuff knuckles

[azure palm]

yes, that one

[zealous spear]

i dont know how to make a divison with them

[azure palm]

it has an incredebly high defense stat

[quasi shoal]

Forests and jungles

[azure palm]

just put those things on the shore and youre safe

[zealous spear]

alr

[azure palm]

ahhh makes sense

[kind vale]

The lack of rail roads in china annoys me

[azure palm]

The lack of supply in Africa tortures me

[prisma zealot]

which dlc is it for the rangers

aat ?

[quasi shoal]

If they're not in base game

They're in ncns

[prisma zealot]

they arent

[azure palm]

if not base game NCNS

[prisma zealot]

ok thx

wait

before NCNS released i bought the subscription

and they were there

[kind vale]

Im planning to help Germany invade the ussr so im just mass building infrastructure, airbase, and railroads

[azure palm]

good idea

[quasi shoal]

No

You're thinking of recon rangers

[kind vale]

Yes a great idea

[quasi shoal]

Those are in AAT

[prisma zealot]

ohhhh yeah right

[quasi shoal]

I think

[kind vale]

How many infantry units would i need

[azure palm]

ALL YOU CAN GET

[kind vale]

I got 120 rn😭

[azure palm]

as which nation?

[quasi shoal]

Plenty

[kind vale]

Japan

[quasi shoal]

120 is enough to beat the ussr as germany

[azure palm]

yeah thats gonna be enough. Still, recruit more if you can

[kind vale]

I will I got 100k guns

[quasi shoal]

That's maybe too much for japan cuz of supply issues

[prisma zealot]

which unit for siberia though

cavalry ?

[kind vale]

Im fixing that issue

Its 1939 rn ima wait till after germany invades to help

[kind vale]

Normal infantry

[azure palm]

I agree

Pure infantry should work.

[kind vale]

Im using 50 width cavalry for a garrison template

[patent thistle]

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY THIS ALWAYS HAPPENDS??

[prisma zealot]

okay thx

[azure palm]

I dont know what to say about that to be honest...

[ripe slate]

Probably conflicting/outdated mods

[azure palm]

Marijn just watching and being here for questions and technical problems

[slim nexus]

Hmm, do you use windows? 🤦

[kind vale]

Im doing collaboration governments in india

[azure palm]

why though?

More compliance?

[patent thistle]

yes? whats the problem with windows-

[azure palm]

Less resistance?

[kind vale]

Less invading i gotta do in that part of asia

[slim nexus]

2025 will be year of linux 🗿

[azure palm]

ahh makes sense

[kind vale]

Makes them capitulate faster

[azure palm]

Puuuhhhh.... I dont think so my guy..

[kind vale]

Da

[quasi shoal]

They say that every year 😭

[patent thistle]

shut up. not everyone has to use linux

[azure palm]

"To confuse your enemy, you must first confuse yourself"
-Sun Tzu, the art of War

[azure palm]

Another German?

[patent thistle]

yes

[fair horizon]

Terry Davis is that you?

[azure palm]

why are there so many germans here...

[kind vale]

"Dying is gay"
-Sun Tzu

[patent thistle]

i dont know-

[azure palm]

I dont think he said that...

[kind vale]

They got a history

[patent thistle]

"stop using me for random ass quotes i never said"
-Sun Tzu

[azure palm]

so do we, we always blame the germans

[kind vale]

If he didn't say it why would it be on Google

[kind vale]

[kind vale]

Yeah, they didn't even start that war

[azure palm]

Exactly! The Serbs started it!

[kind vale]

EXACTLY

[patent thistle]

that is actually slightly untrue, it was the collective central powers which were blamed if you looked at it, still wrong even in that case tho

[azure palm]

yeah, its just funny to say we blamed the Germans and they did nothing

[patent thistle]

both austria and serbia have their hand in it,

[kind vale]

They should pay 15,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.99 in war reparations

[azure palm]

Yes but the Serbs shot first. Thats why they are at fault and we were justified to do whatever we want in the war

[fair horizon]

australia dlc...

[quasi shoal]

[patent thistle]

it was the black hand mostly which we do not know how far they were involved in serbian politics

[azure palm]

yes, but they were serbs. Thats why we needed to find the one who shot the heir to the throne

[kind vale]

Let's just blame isreal

[azure palm]

Nah, lets blame Chak

[kind vale]

Who

[azure palm]

Chak shot Franz Ferdinand

Chak declared war on Serbia

Chak commited war crimes in France

[fair horizon]

blame canada because its funny

[kind vale]

Germany was innocent

[patent thistle]

nah blame the poles

[quasi shoal]

Blame everyone but latvia

[kind vale]

No blame the British

[azure palm]

Blame Latvia

[quasi shoal]

😱

[azure palm]

No! Blame Casey!

[fair horizon]

blame the netherlands because yeah

[kind vale]

no it was france

[azure palm]

then lets just blame Marijn

[patent thistle]

found it, its just the mod that gives me pre-dreadnought hulls and other hulls like panzerships

[kind vale]

Ima take that

[ripe slate]

Unbased quote, no using the word like that pls

[fair horizon]

blame marjin for taking my free 5% recuitable from mobile warfare

[quasi shoal]

What

[azure palm]

which one?

[kind vale]

😔

[kind vale]

Mine

[ripe slate]

It was totally me (it wasnt)

[ripe slate]

I did make Atatürk mortal again in HOI IV, sorry Turks 😔

[azure palm]

My favorite quote without context though. Post this in any other Discord Server and everyone will be confused.

[heavy vigil]

unrealistic

[kind vale]

Sir yes sir

[azure palm]

Marijn is at fault for WW1

Its fact.

[kind vale]

Yes

[quasi shoal]

Zany is at fault for the siege of rome

[azure palm]

And im proud of it!

[daring geyser]

invaded a neutral country and started the gas attacks are the biggest complaints about the germans

[kind vale]

They weren't neutral they were a speedbump

[azure palm]

Exactly! Just as Poland!

[daring geyser]

the war could have been easily de-escalated if not for the entry of germany in the war, but then again, they were imperial superpowers who wanted every excuse to shift the balance of power to their side

[heavy vigil]

tac invaded a neutral country when i looked away

[quasi shoal]

Tac started the persian empire

[kind vale]

The British should've stayed out and Germany should've won

[azure palm]

Heres the quote

[fair horizon]

chat i havent played since before the coal update

[quasi shoal]

Ok

[azure palm]

Lucky.

[heavy vigil]

coal is nothingburger now

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/outjolly-present-christmas-tf2-heavy-jolly-gif-7301013551103577973

[fair horizon]

yeah but i havent played since before it which means i didnt play for like whenever ncns came out

i want my aussie dlc

[heavy vigil]

did you have snow this christmas tac

/j

[daring geyser]

bro its summer in the southern hemisphere

[heavy vigil]

ik 😭

[daring geyser]

my room was bloody boiling

[heavy vigil]

how would i not know lmao

[azure palm]

Australian?

[quasi shoal]

Im in the northern hemisphere in a place sort of known for snow and i got nothing

[fair horizon]

santa doesnt love the southern hemisphere smh

[azure palm]

what is THAT

[fair horizon]

i bet you all got coal

[daring geyser]

there is a shocking number of people who don't know the fact the hemispheres have inverted seasons lol

[heavy vigil]

it must be summer everywhere now

[quasi shoal]

I got boxes

Now it's time for boxing day so i can go box all of my friends

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-alo-sniper-australia-gif-27334372

[heavy vigil]

one of the top brasil gifs

[patent thistle]

hohenzollern poland for live

[daring geyser]

i wish it was winter

[quasi shoal]

Translate that to freedom

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[azure palm]

would be funny to see an american say "thats so cold"

[heavy vigil]

just do the numbers x3

i think thats how it works idk

[quasi shoal]

No 😡 😡 😡

[fair horizon]

commie numbers arent real measurements

[quasi shoal]

It's not

[heavy vigil]

it is i just made it up

[daring geyser]

'bout 0.2 grilled burger temperature everyday

[quasi shoal]

I genuinely thought that for a split second

[azure palm]

exactly! Those "American" measurements are just commie measurements!

[daring geyser]

but na

for example

it's 86f rn

[quasi shoal]

Holy shit wait why is it cold there

[daring geyser]

i live on the second floor the sun shines directly on it

my room is an oven

[heavy vigil]

86 females? thats hot

[quasi shoal]

Isn't it summer for y'all

86f is nothing

[daring geyser]

ok chill i know you live in arizona

[heavy vigil]

olive just said theyre from south

[quasi shoal]

I dont

[heavy vigil]

so probably like aussie or something silly

[quasi shoal]

I was

[quasi shoal]

South of usa

The south

[azure palm]

new Casey lore. Lesbian.

[quasi shoal]

???

[heavy vigil]

southern hemisphere or no

im stupid

[quasi shoal]

No

I said summer for y'all

I mentioned freedom units

[daring geyser]

yeah the usa famously stretching from the cancer tropic to south of the equator

[heavy vigil]

stop being american

[heavy vigil]

dont they have american samoa

southern hemisphere

[daring geyser]

the greatest mightiest largest country in the world

[fair horizon]

no country gets the right to ask that of us

not since 1776

[azure palm]

EXACTLY! BE BRITISH!

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress-2-tf2-soldier-america-gif-12192941423611132354

[heavy vigil]

be brazillian please

[quasi shoal]

Oh yeah 😼

[azure palm]

No, sorry. Austria is better.

[quasi shoal]

America is better 😂

[fair horizon]

dont make us cross the delaware on christmas eve

[daring geyser]

be ukrainian instead tbf

[fair horizon]

we work on christmas smh

[daring geyser]

ukrainians are some of the kindest ppl i met online

[quasi shoal]

Who's we 😭

[azure palm]

no, too much war.

[quasi shoal]

Almost my whole family is off on christmas

[azure palm]

THE GERMAN REICH!

[fair horizon]

AMERICANS 🦅 🇺🇸

[azure palm]

DEUTSCHLAND!

[quasi shoal]

🛢️

[azure palm]

Oh? Is that Iraq?

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/memorial-day-america-eagle-usa-patriot-memorial-eagle-anerica-usa-gif-6514574613088641326

[daring geyser]

me when i say 30 meters but oops i actually meant 32.8084 god blessed american yards 🇺🇸 🦅

[quasi shoal]

👁️ raq

[fair horizon]

lmao

[quasi shoal]

30 meters is 33 yards what

[fair horizon]

commies cant do freedom units

[quasi shoal]

I dont think anyone in america uses yards besides yardsticks and american football

[quasi shoal]

😎

[daring geyser]

get with the program

[azure palm]

exactly! Americans cant use the Metric System!

[quasi shoal]

They never taught us conversions

[fair horizon]

we can use the metric system, you ever heard us work on a car?

[quasi shoal]

I use my fingers to measure things anyways so it doesn't matter

[azure palm]

yes, your cars are shit.

[fair horizon]

we complain about why a car uses both

[quasi shoal]

Bullets use mm 😼

[quasi shoal]

Your

[fair horizon]

i drive an italian car tbh

[daring geyser]

you know you ever heard of brazil? we are in south america thats good enough

[quasi shoal]

And most of them are good

[fair horizon]

you ever heard of jeep?

[azure palm]

Doesnt change the quality of your cars.

[azure palm]

No one drives those things here.

[quasi shoal]

Jeeps are good

[quasi shoal]

Cuz y'all aren't free enough

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/mopar-merica-dodge-challenger-washington-gif-7513218

[azure palm]

We have Skoda, VW, BMW, Fiat,

[quasi shoal]

Aren't you austrian

[fair horizon]

thats basically an italian anyways

[azure palm]

yes

[quasi shoal]

😭

[azure palm]

We own all of Europe

[fair horizon]

i mean i go a state over and they're still american!

well not the ones to the west

those are nebraskans

[quasi shoal]

Still less gdp than america 😂 😂 😂

[viscid stirrup]

what is george washingmachine doing in the car

[quasi shoal]

😼 😼

[azure palm]

Either Italian or German. Partly Yugoslavian

[daring geyser]

isn't italy and austria both states in europe? so yeah theyre from the same country actually

[azure palm]

still less gun crime than america. The only places in your country I feel save in are the airports.

[quasi shoal]

Ew you live next to nebraska

I might too actually idk

[fair horizon]

thankfully theres a river seperating my state from them

[azure palm]

Yes, we are all part of Germany

[lime crystal]

time to go to war with luxebourg hope im gonna win

[fair horizon]

ill pray for you 🙏

[lime crystal]

thank you

[azure palm]

I once just sent out 24 divisions for Luxembourg because I didnt want to split my army

[fair horizon]

paradox really messed up by giving them a second tile

[lime crystal]

only 24? aginst luxebourg? how fast did you lose?

[azure palm]

somehow I won after losing frankfurt! I nuked them thrice!

[lime crystal]

whats thrice😭

[azure palm]

thrice? Like three times?

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-s-patrick-patrick-star-bottle-dumb-gif-1741625486363070335

[lime crystal]

oh ok

[azure palm]

once, twice, thrice

[safe wing]

Its a car ad that was turned into a meme

[oak mantle]

Steam refunds take so long to stop pending bruh

Even for steam wallet

[fair horizon]

bro never picked up a history book 🥀

[oak mantle]

My source of history is hoi4 man

[safe wing]

Mine is Rome total war

And medieval 2

All I know is that Flavius Julius hated Gauls

And that the Brutii hated th Greeks

[quasi shoal]

Mine is wikipedia 😼

[safe wing]

I’m playing Rome total war on gog rn

I got it for 10 dollars the whole collection plus the 2 expansions

[fair horizon]

never played any total war besides the main menu of shogun and warhammer

[lime crystal]

anybody got tips on how to invade and win aginst biritin?

[fair horizon]

destroy their navy 👍

[lime crystal]

how?

[fair horizon]

with your navy

[safe wing]

Light Cruiser spam

[lime crystal]

ok thanks

[rain loom]

i only realise now how much i suck at hoi4

[atomic grove]

are u playing germany?

or italy

[lime crystal]

germany

[atomic grove]

build up some good light cruisers and heavy ships

[lime crystal]

you mean like basic cruisers?

[kind vale]

Are support ships good?

[atomic grove]

invade from the port tile right above amsterdam

and into the city of hull

so u only have to get supremacy in normal north sea

[atomic grove]

i mean u could

sure

[lime crystal]

ok thnks

thanks*

[lime crystal]

one basic cruiser takes almost a year to build tho

[oak mantle]

Annex is so peak

[azure palm]

One super heavy battleship takes almost 2 years to build.

[azure palm]

puppets?

[solemn hinge]

first time ive actually done this in a game

[azure palm]

Its OP

[oak mantle]

Stalin prefers annexing

[azure palm]

Oh you mean through peace deals

[oak mantle]

Yh

[azure palm]

I thought you meant through the puppet menu

[kind vale]

So does hirohito

[solemn hinge]

ye

[azure palm]

So does Schuscnigg

[oak mantle]

Mass mob soviets kiolled the germans using battleplan in 1942 lol

[solemn hinge]

holy factorys

[kind vale]

Its almost time for me to invade the soviets

[azure palm]

You can core most of europe like this. I think even all of it.

[azure palm]

Go Unknown!

[kind vale]

YESSS

All 240 of my infantry units

[solemn hinge]

ye and the good thing is that i already control all of europe so yay me

[kind vale]

And then my 12 marines

[lavish skiff]

Is it possible to involve Sweden in the Winter War?

[azure palm]

not all of it

[azure palm]

yes

[lavish skiff]

If I play USSR

[azure palm]

no

[solemn hinge]

except the swiss and northern greece. everything else is a puppet

[kind vale]

Can you get cores on china with historical japan?

[azure palm]

puppets dont matter. You need to control it directly.

[azure palm]

I dont think so

[lavish skiff]

I heard that Sweden might come if the USSR puts its aviation in some region

[azure palm]

Im not sure

[azure palm]

Thats probably a lie

[viscid stirrup]

its true

[azure palm]

They have a focus, but you cant guarantee it

[solemn hinge]

ik but you can do it through the decsions tab when doing mittleuropa

[kind vale]

💔

[viscid stirrup]

its a loophole thatll make ussr at war with sweden,thatll become a major power

and then ussr can fix their army before barbarossa operation

its only used in really sweaty mp games

[azure palm]

yes, just dont do the western duchys and eastern duchys things. You can only annex a nation once through mitteleuropa I think

[untold sphinx]

is it possible for anyone on multiplayer to survive this whitout space marines?

[azure palm]

Yes

[kind vale]

0 resistance in every non core state i have is nice

[untold sphinx]

how exactly

[azure palm]

More Manpower than you.

[lavish skiff]

Which region does aviation need?

[untold sphinx]

its soviets bro

[solemn hinge]

i did the peaceful agaisnt ussr tree so that isnt even possible

[azure palm]

Get the Chinese

[kind vale]

Yall the soviets left my border unmanned.

[untold sphinx]

chinese have zero tech

[lavish skiff]

which region does aviation need?

[azure palm]

You can research, you know

[viscid stirrup]

the northern one

you have to send in bombers

[lavish skiff]

a

[untold sphinx]

i mean in a barbarossa scenario

[lavish skiff]

thank you

[azure palm]

Germany in multiplayer might be able to defeat this I think

[untold sphinx]

the build is insane

300k guns in 4 months

[azure palm]

THATS ALMOST 100K GUNS A MONTH

[viscid stirrup]

nothings insane if its tested

[viscid stirrup]

thats almost 0.9 million guns a year

[kind vale]

Why did the soviets send their entire army to the west😭

[safe wing]

Germany first

[untold sphinx]

yea

93K guns a months

[kind vale]

Foolish soviets bouta lose the entire eastern front

[rose prawn]

Are there still nations that can buy ur guns

[untold sphinx]

probably

i didn't think of that

[rose prawn]

Try to sell 50K of them

[untold sphinx]

i can sell how many i want

i could try also perpetually expanding the army

[rose prawn]

Ok

Sell it all

[untold sphinx]

up to 25 or 30 million

i need to try this build in multiplayer

[rose prawn]

Let's see how much of it is going to help ur economy

[rose prawn]

Do itb

We must see it

[subtle cave]

hey guys

[daring geyser]

yes and pretty easily so

soviets are severely underpowered against an axis with full players in mp if the players are any good

[kind vale]

Is 2k fighters and 4k cas enough for the soviet union when invading from china?

[daring geyser]

in comp matches soviets usually lose in at the very most 4 years if the allies don't do anything

you can have the greatest build in the world but you will always die to a competent axis with full players lel

[honest night]

Quite easy

Tanks should be able to kill this quite easily

[wicked glacier]

🥹 🫡

i tried to be as fast as possible i think 1939 is a bit slow but ok it was kind hard to speedrun this bc getting manpower was pain✌️

[iron helm]

yoooo

[untold sphinx]

no the hard attack is decent on it

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/t59-tank-flying-tank-f22-raptor-gif-5201393405799029226

[iron helm]

PARADOX ADDED PEAK ⁉️

[misty fossil]

Yup

[iron helm]

finally

by blood alone with no compromise no surrender

[misty fossil]

Coming 16/7/2026

[untold sphinx]

manpower tho

[honest night]

Tds in mp have like 12k hard attack

[misty fossil]

Only?

[untold sphinx]

behind the kiev line this much divisions just become impossible to push

[honest night]

No you’ll get memed by tds

[olive hearth]

Graveyard of empires worth it with 20% discount?

[untold sphinx]

i have played against tds

[honest night]

Play in a comp multiplayer lobby

see real td divs

Which Germany can get at the least 40 of by Barb

with green air

With cas

With 1200 hard attack at the very minimum

you’ll just get reinforced of every tile

[olive hearth]

?

[untold sphinx]

only P.E.G germany players are a threat tbh

[honest night]

Normal soviet build has 600 inf by Barb and 60 tanks

[atomic grove]

no

[untold sphinx]

what i showed you is a mass mob build

[honest night]

Mefo is better

[atomic grove]

just dont buy goe

[honest night]

Massmob is dead in current update

[atomic grove]

i dont recommend it

[untold sphinx]

until 41 sure

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/t-28-1938-war-thunder-world-of-tanks-soviet-union-gif-18055800493735187467

[untold sphinx]

how come

[honest night]

Stats are to bloated now especially with cas and you don’t have enough reinforce rate

and that’s not even talking about spgs which are super busted now

[olive hearth]

Ok thx

[indigo elk]

How do I return volunteers? I sent some to Italy, and I'm now in war with the Allies myself, but they've still not returned?

[untold sphinx]

i get my air lend leased tho as sovs

[honest night]

Your airs not as good as axis due to your focuses

you have to do like tons of focuses to have decent air

and axis has way better mios

and focuses

[pale flare]

love it when enemies throw themselves at me one by one

[untold sphinx]

i mean personally i can deathstack like 25-30, 36 width inf per tile and even with shit reinforce rate they i cant get clicked out whatsoever unless im attritioning

[pale flare]

wouldve fallen by now but yeah

[honest night]

Well that’s probably just in singleplayer in mp that gets clicked in like 3 seconds

[untold sphinx]

against sheeps mod and also in multiplayer although i don't play big comp games but i've played against germanies with alot of hours

that was before the dlc tho

loo

i dont play mp since dlc

[olive hearth]

Is Eu4 worth buying? Especially since it has a 90% discount rn

[honest night]

Sheep’s mod isn’t that good I’m ngl

[olive hearth]

Yes 100% true

[untold sphinx]

sometimes it is

allies get guns 3 by like 39

idfk how they do that

[coral gorge]

no way

MEFO-cancelled 4YP is what gets banned

[honest night]

Not really the tank designs aren’t good that they make the air they make is bad and they build like 50 dockyards on uk it’s a challenge if you super buff them so they get like 50% core stats

[coral gorge]

oh of course they don't compare to players

[honest night]

It’s very good for ai standards

[coral gorge]

I don't even expect many players to compare to me

[honest night]

But not in comparison for players

[coral gorge]

let alone AI

well they hold in somewhat serious disc MP lobbies kinda alright

fully organised games like in RB are not fine though

most no disc players will just die

it is not like we never had MP players on it

[honest night]

What lobbies? I’m curious because whenever I’ve played against it wasn’t the most competent in comparison to actual players

like it would naval invade with 2 width tanks

[coral gorge]

never seen that, not my problem

[honest night]

Fair enough

[coral gorge]

there are issues that have very little to do with the mod,

sometimes its just conflicts with the MP mods they use too

sometimes it was just whatever PDX cooked with the latest patch

like when they removed some codes in GDR

[honest night]

Tbf when I tested it I mainly used hmm

[coral gorge]

it made AI unable to design templates like before

[honest night]

so that’s prob what messed it up

[coral gorge]

yeah they probably had conflicting template desire

so both get disabled, probably

but otherwise I can throw them into HammoTimme or TommyKay or other YTber's MP games and most players there will probably die

well that's not serious lobbies

[honest night]

Tommykay

[coral gorge]

but by somewhat serious I just meant that they would spend the time to organise the roster

ie not no-disc public

no-disc public players actually suck

like most of them play worse than AI

[honest night]

Yeah

[coral gorge]

ah larp games too

so I think the mod is fine

AI can't grind so like +50% combat bonus is needed to bring them closer to semi-comp player level anyway

but otherwise I think at peak the mod worked out just fine

like you would certainly prefer having them as AI allies than some noobs

[honest night]

It’s alright, what I’m saying is that if you live against sheep mod that doesn’t mean your gonna live against actual players which know what they’re doing

[coral gorge]

they probably do better

well most the stuffs that work out nice there will usually find some successes, just less

in MP with organised teams you have more production as well

and Germany can also forfeit inf and just make tanks

stuffs that you just can't coordinate with AI

nowadays we have more joke builds that are funni though

but yeah MP is weird ahh anyway

it was the only place where 22/0 was ever really good,

solely cuz Axis could be doing TD instead of SPG and didn't have enough inf

it would be slower than inf arty in sp

so successes never translate 1:1 from one to another

w/e anyway

MP sucks

people can be great to play with, but MP by itself is just a terrible place to be

[rain loom]

can anyone recommend a nation that isnt too dificult but fun?

[tight crypt]

20 players on one nation as coop sounds nice

[rain loom]

i dont know 20 people

max is maybe 2 and a half

[coral gorge]

vanilla?

[rain loom]

yes

[coral gorge]

well Poland is generally always fun? 🤔 Finland also is

Hungary can be nice

Brazil can be fun, and tedious at the same time

[rain loom]

i always have trouble defending against the soviets

as finland and poland

[coral gorge]

well it should get a bit easier now

since you can get a subdoc for 5% manpower

very quickly

[rain loom]

ah

[coral gorge]

it lets you mobilise sooner

which is important for starting strength at the outbreak of war

[honest night]

Usa if you want to be really strong and not have many threats,trying to hold Italy as Greece trying to hold Germany as France

[rain loom]

ok any path specifically for poland?

[coral gorge]

hmm I suppose most Poland path actually has very similar growth

monarchist Poland-Romania is quite nice, for sure, but fascist Bermontian commonwealth is fine too

there is always the secret Romanov path if you want late game vibe

there are puppet paths as well, and admittedly I enjoyed those

[rain loom]

i will try michael path and also form commonwealth (using the horrendous compliance decision) bc funny

[coral gorge]

the only one that is somewhat weak throughout the game is probably Morges Pact Poland

but they still get their bonuses

and they are otherwise very similar to other Polands on historical in terms of journey

you beat Germany, you beat the Soviets, you betray whatever allies in western europe

[rain loom]

i tried doing romanov yesterday but couldnt beat germany

[pale flare]

oh mah gah

[rain loom]

after they demand memel

[patent thistle]

polish navy be cooking the german navy-

[coral gorge]

as Romanov, most people prefer giving up on Danzig and Meel

and just fight the Soviet Union first

[rain loom]

ok

[coral gorge]

since you can core Slavic world

then you fight Germany

[rain loom]

so get pomerania after running over the soviets

[coral gorge]

well, Romanov Poland is like weaker than all Sanationist otherwise

you need to expand as Romanov first

[pale flare]

wait what hes wiped out of the map though

[coral gorge]

there is also the option to fight Czech -> Romania -> Yugoslavia, but that can be fairly difficult and taxing

[rain loom]

so like lithuania -> baltics -> slovakia -> yugoslavia if lucky

[coral gorge]

yeah, but Yugoslavia effectively never accepts to get annexed by you

so just Lithuania -> Baltics -> Slovakia

I actually don't recommend taking Slovakia that much if you are not confident

like if you get it

just release it back to Czech

cuz Germany can get claims on it

and they can attack you while you are at war with the Soviet Union

[rain loom]

ok thx

[coral gorge]

and it barely has any factories

[rain loom]

could i release slovakia however?

[coral gorge]

hmm, slovakia doesn't have any core until Germany does Fate of Czechoslovakia focus

I think?

[rain loom]

huh

[coral gorge]

🤔

do they now?

[rain loom]

they do

i just checks

[coral gorge]

ok, so that changed

cuz for the longest time Slovakia didn't have core

it only got added when they spawned from German focus

[rain loom]

strange, what about the slovakian uprising (which i presume is in there somewhere)

[coral gorge]

ah yeah

similar thing

it would only get added then

otherwise Slovakia wouldn't have any core at game start

it wasn't a releaseable by default

must have changed at some point

[open imp]

Hello, It's been a while I didn't played the game (I have most of dlc) and I would like to restart playing it with a minor/ middle "size" country. Do you have any recommandation?

[rain loom]

Ig free factories

[coral gorge]

well on low compliance you probably get only 1-2 factories

[rain loom]

I mean with puppet

[coral gorge]

at the risk of being attacked by Germany

so probably just checks if they get core on those lands

puppets without troops might make it even likelier that AI Germany will attack themn

dragging you into the war

[honest night]

Hungary,Austria, France China

[icy crescent]

Portugal.

[coral gorge]

so owning it is probably safer, and safest being just returning it altogether

[worthy rover]

Could try bulgari and make austria hungary, or UK is pretty good, germany is the easiest

[coral gorge]

Poland, Brazil, Hungary, ITALY

back when BBA released so many people fked up their Italy games

lost one core?

[open imp]

Italy is still accessible even with the new dlc?

[rain loom]

I’ve checked, only Hungary has something, and worse case scenario u lose Slovakia

[coral gorge]

they get claims after Fate of Czech event

not at the start

[rain loom]

Yeah

So it’s not too bad

[coral gorge]

well it might have changed too, so just play up til then

that's minor detail anyway

[rain loom]

Ok

[coral gorge]

other than that, for Poland, you can make try making planes early

[rain loom]

Yep

[coral gorge]

just 2 mils on it

can fk up soviet air

as long as you can hold against the Soviets for the first year, it will get easier

[rain loom]

I’ve been checking guides, so it shouldn’t be too bad

[rain loom]

2? That’s not too much

[coral gorge]

well 2 mils on it should get it 200 planes by 1940 at least

gradually you can increase it

[rain loom]

Maybe, since my last run I had large industry, i could try for more bc allegedly planes are cool

And maybe flame tanks?

[patent thistle]

germany has been beaten before italy was able to join-

[wet torrent]

rate my sinkiang yall

[kind vale]

I stole the Baku oil fields from Germany

[wicked glacier]

guys can anyone recommend a country to play with a hard country

[kind vale]

Do Austria

Reform Austria Hungary

[worthy rover]

Not very hard tho

[wicked glacier]

hmm

[noble timber]

Aim for the hardest achievement

[dense umbra]

Whats a great minor country in europe that i can form and become gud

[kind vale]

Do a world conquest as Luxembourg

[coral gorge]

maybe revanchist fascist Greece

not too hard but fun enough

[kind vale]

Luxembourg

[coral gorge]

not too tedious either

[wicked glacier]

i did one but as syria today

[wicked glacier]

...

[kind vale]

Do Luxembourg now

[dense umbra]

havent played it and i suck but i might try out

[wicked glacier]

👍

give me 30min and i will do it

[patent thistle]

tanna tuva is more fun

[dense umbra]

How do luxembourg not get chonped

Do they aign with ger

[patent thistle]

you dont get free cores

[kind vale]

A small country with big ambitions

[coral gorge]

Ottoman Empire is fun and can be just a bit hard too, depending on your timing

[worthy rover]

Isnt there achievement no one has

[kind vale]

Taking control of the comintern

[wicked glacier]

it was fun but a bit to easy

turkey has weak neighbours

[coral gorge]

but have you done communist Ottomans yet?

[wicked glacier]

i think

i did the ottomans 2 times

oh no the 2 were non aligend

mb

[coral gorge]

well that's the normal, real way to do it

commie Ottomans are just meme

you can get there but its hard

but tbh now I think Ottomans might get a bit more tedious overall?

🤔

I am not too sure

[wicked glacier]

there a away to do it in 5 sec but lets not reveal it

[coral gorge]

well there aren't many things that are too difficult

[wicked glacier]

fr

[coral gorge]

can be fun though

like this

I hate how they lose the Fourth Reich name

hmm

but tbh even this is pretty easy

it is mostly just time consuming

not difficult

difficult is probably doing Nordic alliance as non-aligned Finland, but you aren't the faction leader

you have to save weak ass allies

something like that maybe

[wicked glacier]

i dont think i tried to play a minior country in the americas

[coral gorge]

mechanically difficult

[coral gorge]

Chile is nice

Brazil is tad too strong

Argentina is alright

[craggy trail]

🐑

[wicked glacier]

i dont like american country bc they are far away from europa so i need to build an strong navy early

and i hate brazil

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/be-my-baby-daddy-gif-1304514228146340877

[wicked glacier]

hi

[rain loom]

I don’t own South America dlc

Idk if good

[coral gorge]

more reason to play minor in South America

so you can destroy Brazil

oh

if you don't have TOA then they have no content

might as well ignore themn

[rain loom]

I played Peru once

Wasn’t too bad

But died of no supply

And skill issue

[wicked glacier]

i hate war with brazil bc one time as ottoman empire europa took me 2 years to defeat and brazil took 4 years😭

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/pinkie-pie-wave-pinkie-pie-my-little-pony-mlp-friendship-is-magic-gif-2709430764465882024

Hello hello!

[wicked glacier]

hello...? i guess

[craggy trail]

Welcome!

[fair horizon]

chat how do i play more like tommykay?

[coral gorge]

baaaaaaaaaaah

[coral gorge]

learn how to rap

make bad pun

[honest night]

Complain about supply or smth

[craggy trail]

More Multiplayer

[coral gorge]

to play like somebody, you need to learn their character

actually, does he complain about supply much?

[fair horizon]

his new video just said something about supply so yeah

[honest night]

Idk that’s all I hear people say about him I haven’t watched his videos XD

[shrewd osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

@frozen flume

[wicked glacier]

i think i have gone to far with that

[sudden thistle]

Nearly every video he complains about it

[fair horizon]

thats a pretty small army just to take out luxembourg

[opal nymph]

What does he complain about

I hardly ever face issues with supply and I dont use logistic companies

[wicked glacier]

i think that so how even i am gona beat germany and ussr with that tiny army

[wicked glacier]

oh wait i am playing as luxembourg bro

[sudden thistle]

He fights in like Novgorod or Asia and then complain about supply

[opal nymph]

Wow, who could have seen this coming

No supply in the middle of Asia?

Has he thought of strategically falling back to where he has supply?

[regal raft]

enough for a tile

[untold current]

Are the one who made that mod?

[wicked glacier]

sure

[untold current]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-jumpscare-funny-meme-drift-gif-24951985

[regal raft]

what ideology btw

[untold current]

facist

[wicked glacier]

👍

[wicked glacier]

but how did you know?

name?

[untold current]

i recognise volksdeutsche luxemburg

its my love

[wicked glacier]

💀

[untold current]

i will isreal you

[wicked glacier]

nah

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

siberia my beloved

i hate the monarchists

[fair horizon]

clearly its the game's fault

[viscid stirrup]

guys my grandfather only lost russian roullete once hes so good at it

[noble turtle]

WTF

[wicked glacier]

what the???

when did they got to be freinds?

[fringe shell]

bro tannu tuva is holding

[wicked glacier]

🫡

[supple summit]

apparently you can get a -0.5 combat width reduction on all infantry which might actually be op

[wicked glacier]

i am playing historical what the

[supple summit]

its the prophecy

[wicked glacier]

💀

[sick knot]

guys why can't i naval invade as germany the uk?

i sent like 70 ships in the english channel, waited two months but nothing's happening

[willow swallow]

Guys I am stuck, this new update completely ruined combat for me. I play this game with console cheats and I was able to win everything before, but since NCNS I keep losing, WTF happened

I play this for the poltical fun and so on, so dont blame me for using console

2500K hours

[sick knot]

if you play with cheats why don't u just use modifier gui if u keep losing?

[willow swallow]

This update just made the game 1000 times harder to play, I just want to have fun

I use the console bro, just research all, manpower and latest equipment

that is all

I play infantry only

[pale flare]

prob not enough ships then or a possible bug, i find that removing the patrol in that area then patrolling again it suddenly gains naval dominance

whats the ship that you send on patrol looking like

[sick knot]

i mean it was 1939 in my game so there being not enough ships would be weird

[sick knot]

i sent a bunch of capital ships and submarines

[pale flare]

ah

theyre exactly the kinds of ship you dont wanna send lmao

[sick knot]

oh why

[pale flare]

delegate your subs purely for convoy raiding, the fleet with capital ships as strike and a separate task force for spotting

[willow swallow]

Anyways what am I even supposed to do now, I even started using planes, yet it still does not help as much

[sick knot]

what's a seperate task force?

[willow swallow]

Using CAS does not do much, Planes do not do much, what am I doing wrong

[pale flare]

task forces are these

here you can see i set two fleets to patrol and 3 to strike force

[sick knot]

oh yea alr

[pale flare]

set your spotting fleet to low engagement risk just to be safe

i can prob just afk this at this point

[slim nexus]

poland 🗿

[lethal ether]

holy

was it a pain

[wicked glacier]

💀

[fair horizon]

why not meatball?

[lethal ether]

naval bombers could work?

[sick knot]

how many hours do u have?

[pale flare]

Whats that mean

[fair horizon]

set it to not engage and use spotting cruisers if you're gonna do that, heavy cruisers work too

[fair horizon]

all fighting ships in one force

not really a reason to split them up

[wicked glacier]

it wasent untile now i dont love navy invade the stupid america

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/akagi-azur-lane-my-beloved-meme-my-beloved-heart-gif-25042513

i love navy

you cant make me stop building ships

[pale flare]

More navy = more tiles that i can naval dominate = more landings i can do

Im preparing for an eventual invasion to the british isles

[pale flare]

Low engagement better imo, this way they can clean up some weak enemies

[pale flare]

Like 180 idk

[fair horizon]

Just blow up the enemy fleet and then its not an issue

[pale flare]

I started at ncns

[sick knot]

kk

[pale flare]

They hide in ports and port strikes are slow

[safe wing]

I started at Waking the Tiger/Man the Guns

[fair horizon]

I like parking my fleet next to enemy ports and port striking them with my carriers :)

[celest zenith]

Is there any working strategy for 27 April Battle of the Seelow Heights in 1.17? With new doctrine rework you don't have stats day 1 and if you don't switch unlocked subdoctrines suck anyway.

[pale flare]

Barely invest in my carriers lmao

[safe wing]

brave of you playing that mod

[pale flare]

I only play as minor nations so dont have em from getgo

[fair horizon]

Dead to me smh

Base strike >

[pale flare]

Like in this run im playing as afghanistan and the only 3 carriers i have are from the ones i yoinked from japan lmao

[fair horizon]

Which ones did you get?

[safe wing]

as much as I would love to help my intrest in Hoi4 is going lately

[pale flare]

Ijn shinano onlh one i remember

[viscid stirrup]

i fully understand and respect your opinion

[fair horizon]

Same but thats because im waiting for the australia dlc

[viscid stirrup]

but your opinion is wrong

[safe wing]

how is it wrong its just a personal taste thing in which their is no right or wrong answer

[viscid stirrup]

there is a wrong answer in this case

[celest zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/man-indian-shhh-gif-14642725654883581518

[wicked glacier]

done

[honest night]

Don’t have Brazil annexed smh

[safe wing]

it doesn't intrest me anymore as much as it used too none of the new mechanics haven't added much