#hoi4-general
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ohh
I only made cruisers and im tryna mass produce fighters
i think you should also malr naval bombers
Naval bombers, light cruisers, and maybe carriers
I forgot about that
Yes
I forfot ahout naval bombers
Yeah im gonna try to redirect my production from tanks to planes and win the air war germany nevery achieved
how do i sort my navy
can somebody help me please
i wanna make 1 patrol group
and 1 strike force group
The buttons in the top right are for sorting
Hover over those
And figure it out
its from the top right lol
Btw all the ships you built are in reserve
Which one gives me more special forces cap? Currently at 24
Right one i think
like this?
Hover over it yourself
Yes
I assume right gives you more if you have a large army as its a multiplier and left gives you more with a smaller one?
Left means more mountaineers
Right means more of all special forces
Patrol
okay
@quasi shoal what focus do i need to reduce or remove economy of conques5 since im suffering over 80% consumer goods factor and not able to build a single building
and the other 1 on strike force
Price controls
and then my subs for what?
already done that years ago, im on 1940 and suffering heavily
Institute price controls reduces it
If not, I think the focus above or under it?
Total autarky removes it
Capture gold reserves
Yes
it does?
finished that all
i forgot what total atuarky needs
Show how much progress u have on autarky
Do i need to assign planes to my carrier
Like a TON of resources
Now i know why people choose total autarky and get excited
No but you need specific carrier planes
Yeah ive seen them
The default comp is carrier fighters and carrier naval bombers
idk im nkt playing yet
Use carrier airframe instead of normal one
does carrier heavily help you in navy superiority
Yes
How do carrier planes work
Like do they actually go on your carriers
Like i havent seen sm1 use it
bro what did serbia do
world je serbia
i think serbia is going to win
serbia strong
look at the sea
look better
okay can anyone help me
I assume since you're trying to trade with the indies, you still haven't taken out france
nope
Just build synthetic factories
i need rubber really bad too
long term solution
What happened to sea lion ?
ask siam
Soviets or siam
long term solution is to justify on netherland the moment you finish the focus "remilitarize the rhineland" which the justification is going to end in october 3 and the netherlands doesent join allies so you need to take the dutch east indies and add a spare army there to protect the indies and yojr rubber from the british malaya
I did infact do it, but i forgot to protect the indies so i had to send 2 armies over there
o
my
god
sp art
absolutely tears through the enemy
holy crap
i just absolutely smoked france
Still requires you to protect your trade routes
Just saves on civies
I just never do
Java always stays alive
Ggs
No
Im saying you're doing good
It's kinda late but you actually prepped so it doesn't matter
Your prepped navy can prolly beat them til like 45
i have 32 marines ready to go
Without updates
Can you even send them all?
unupgraded naval invasions lets you get like 12 marines in total iirc
12 in there I mean
the upgrades in that extra naval area
i set it to all 24
watch out your oil
Landing on London is actually one of the more easier places to swarm out from with cas
oh yeah @knotty vortex do you have cas
The port on London with side invasions breaks easily
like this?
his first plan is on london iirc
yes
okay
exactly what I was thinking lol
I usually plan that myself
im really hoping this works
And it always gets oneshotted for me
put a frontline
and then they'll move once you get a port
okay hold on
on england once you take any land
place them on a port for the time being
once you take land
that's your old navy
ohh
why do you have subs in there
idk
you didn't make any destroyers so that's the kriegsmarine getting destroyed
save your captured spy
how
lmao
dude
my patrol just arent in the english channe;
so i have no dominance
did you put the starting navy on patrol
go to navy, click on your fleet of new ships, and click the split in half button in the top left
the one next to the delete button
oh my reserves?
yes
the patrol fleet
no
still 1
oh wait it did
now ive split them into 8
navy armys confuse me so much
it says no accessible regions
nevermind
now theyre both repairing
bruh
bro im getting absolutely destroyed
this is genuinely impossible bro
gonna crashout
oh put your new reserves on the patrol fleet
i have
still getting destroyed
HOLD UP
HOLD UP BRO
@quasi shoal IM IN BRO
IM ON THE SHORES
do you have a port
GG
annex europe, puppet out of europe
huh?
yes
but do that after
puppet outside of europe
Puppet everything 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
this was all me
They throw men at the enemy
This is normal
ewwwww
does uk count as in europe
wait
lol
there we go
so i only wanna annex free france
belgium netherlands
luxembourg
and then try puppet the rest?
i cant puppet the UK its too expensive
@quasi shoal
how is this div?
Puppets are goated
Field hospital
you did it with naval invasion?
Just added
yes
how do i puppet the uk if i cant afford it
can you show me the template?
once im done with this yeah
what templates
Thats a world i def wouldnt want to be in bro-
of the division that naval invaded
Good god 😭
okay
thx
this one i guess
36 width better
too expensive though
its nice, what i like to do is just make it 36 width aswell
idek if its meta anymore
Just did
it is
i heard people saying that the best width for tanks is 34 width now so im a little confused lol
well the amount of stats you get for the etxra 2 width is a lot more valuable than avoiding a like 2% nerf to ur stats and going 34 width
its up to you but it doesnt matter too much
the penalty for being over combat width is negligible at that level
i guess if you wanna be max efficient with your equipment
i still use 10 tanks 8 cars anyway i dont care about what people say is meta i just use what works fr
the main difference between 34 and 36 width is that in plains tyles you get an extra 2 combat width across 2 divisions attacking into the tile cause you can fit 35 x 2 and youll get a penalty for being 2 width over
I have 35.7 width infantry as I can’t go to 36
thats good enough
is that from large unit tactics or what?
451.8 soft attack can’t lie
Yes
annex uk
i’m gonna have to give up some other land then
as i can’t afford it all
wait don’t i get more points as the conference thing goes on
ohhh
does it include their colonies
puppet it hopefully
do i puppet the colonies then
yes
yes
for denmark ho is better light tank or medium tank
What's more worth it? Buying the dlcs or getting the subscription?
Large infantry
Long live the Fuhrer
any particular strategy?
medium
infantry and tanks
I know bt for Tanks hoz better
okey
tank line small is for sov invasion
sure
Wdym tank line small
What is there
small is relative
and he doesn't have many tanks
Like the main country focus trees
basically saying don't have the tank frontline accross the whole border
all the majors
french and sov are kinda mid tho iirc
the base game ones
same with italy
Who wants to play with me?
my list is:
1: no step back
2: by blood alone
3: arms against tyranny
4: no compromise, no surrender
5: gotterdammerung
just did the shortest war ive ever had in hoi4 (like 6 days)
W profile pic, that was my wallpaper like 5 years ago lol
I've had a 1 day war against denmark
and a 2 day hungarian civil war
guys starting new save pick
fascist UK
roman empire
ottoman empire
Ottoman Empire
roman empire
Never see that one honestly
i have 10h in the game
Oh…
is fascist UK cool
Um
yea lol
Yeah do that
Whatever you do:
Puppet Oman.
Attack the Saudis and Yemen.
And give both to Oman.
Let them form Arabia just for Style Points.
italy is fun tho
👍
you can buff the uk and france too
im thinking roman empire or fascist UK
and you can just make everyone democratic or communist or sumn so you ahve to fight like a 50 front war
Ok
Just make sure you have good tanks
Also don’t join the axis
Go down the monarchy route
It’ll be better
my friwend is grmany so i kinda have to
Oh mulitplayer?
Won’t you guys fight over France?
Greater Italy is funny too.
Release Libya as puppet.
And allow them to form Maghreb by giving them the entire North West of Africa. 
Sorry, I am just a big fan of allowing puppets to form their formables.
uk also sounds fun thoo
Democratic germany civ greed until 1940
What do you do when you get to 1940?
Spam mils and slaughter anything in your way
ill remake the SPQR
I remade Austria Hungary here
Ok
Ohhhhh
Mutapa, Latin Africa and Arabia puppets as Portugal.
Style Points. ✨
Style points for sure
Oh this is my favorite pic
I am the German empire
Austria-Hungary really tried to get to the Black Sea. 
Yeah lol
Also Italy
i saw this cursed template online
AI lowk made a great iron curtain
lowk whatever floats their boat
peak
noo albaniaa
ngl i just wanna do a yugoslavia run
the other side of the curtain wont be red for too much longer though
what can go wrong
The endless swarms of today vs the endless swarms of history
facts
only 15% is that a lot?/
for some reason in road to 56, fascist china is lavender
i mean it does the job
holy shit
you got it up to 100%
true patience
Have y'all done .. princely breakways states vs British raj ?
How did y'all beat them
fallback line
Uh yes probably
How did you take peshawar and delhi
are you still in the allies?
I got to Lahore but got cut off
I did the look to the past path
oh that
No 🥀
wait why are you fighting against the princely states?
im trying to do 2 achievements
if your the mughals
No I am them, i need to fight the British raj and get the points for 255 days for them to broker peace and give me north east india
Peshawar, Delhi, etc.
More points is more land
I assume training and starting infra in Sind would make it easier
im genuinly so confused
I'll try again tomorrow so getting some tips
.
this made me so confused
but basically you dont fight the princely states
their your puppets
oh my god im so stupid
so basically
when I attack the raj
No I am them ( princely states), I am fighting the British raj and when you breakways theres a yeah
Yeah they have so many troops 🥀
fight the raj as soon as germany starts beefing with everyone and join their faction
italy and germany will send dudes over
oh and
use the elephants
trust me
their shit for rivers but they are amazing just bloody too good on plains, hills and sometimes mountains
Elephants??
Man what research tree is this
wait im so confused
Atp paratroop ! , much easier imo
no i defeated them
are you fighting the raj during your rebellion
omg bruh
or do you fight the raj when you do the focus
lmao
you don't need it
well i needa phrase it different
its fine
Yeah for 255 days and then peace treaty
but like it's free best navy in the world
i have so many subjects
so ignore the elephants
delete your entire army before the rebellion
Yeah I have like 1 military factory 🥀, how am I supposed to win
Ohhh
no with no british raj army you get it less
Oh ok
So i just breeze and then hold the front line ig
when you rebel immediately start just spamming out as many troops
Lots of micro 🙏
id probably do around 13
12w ??
you get it automatically
you dont need any sort of army xp
i forgot the exact name but it has 5 inf divisions or 6
one of those 2
So just spam them gotcha
6 has 12w yeah
keep like 3 on the coast because the british will naval invade you
thats basically all the british do apart from sending like 2 divisions over in mainland raj
but since the ai is stupid they will start training troops they cant supply so you basically have a long ass timer
and just encircle them and quickly just capture their victory points
sadly you cant capitulate them
Yeah 🥀
i really dislike that
and you wont get much
all i got was delhi and some other shitty land
You'll see it tomorrow in the lounge if i can get it to work 🥀
North East India but then you can get iran/ afghansitan
even if you dont do all this you can still make it work with the pakistan states
lowk i just attack and core afghanistan
Or British raj if the British become civil war 🔥🔥
What's core ?
tryna fight sinkiang is too big in an ass
Like lands that love you
Like London is a core of the uk
its basically just truly making it your territory where you get all the manpower and all the factories
But something like the suez isn’t
Ah gotcha
ye
So civilian oversight ?
Or local police force
Or forced labour 🔥
🔥
nah but
theres a focus which cores it for you
you cant ever core lands by yourself even if theres 100% compliance
Hmm can I annex the princely states later cuz I assume if I beat British raj, they get free for some reason
uh no
💢
Damn, why not ?
Can I declare war on em ?
when you do the focus to fight the raj again they will be released and fight as your puppets
But I don't want them as puppets 🥀
wait hold on
theres a focus which quickly drains their autonomy
and you can annex them
but sad news
you need a lot of politcal power
Hmm, interesting
like a lot
can i request resources from my puppets?
i mean yesn't?
Oh that's fine, last game I had like 900 stockpiled cuz I forgot about it
i want that rubber so bad
be careful though they will get autonomy
just make refineries
but yeah trade with your puppet temporarily
Tungsten
What the hell ??
how many hours do you even have lowk
Uh 6-10
Positively
It's been like.. 4 days ?
Last time I played as germany, I forgot to build medium tanks 💀
I had light tanks all of em
light tanks arent bad
And infantry 100 battalions
just not as strong for blitzkrieg
I didn't know what supply was btw 🥀
having tons of infantry is to be expected
I still don't get it
I put railways but why me no get supply 🥀
i mean the level of the railway matters as well as how many trains and trucks you have
as well as the terrain your on
and how close a supply hub is
I got poland,attacked Latvia, French did not like that, got to Luxembourg, and then impasse
Oh I didn't build trains or trucks probably
I thought they were useless
??????
I had railways though 👍
bros just using horses atp
but when you flank france through the benelux
YOU NEED TO GO QUICK
Wait they're used for supply ??
Uh no i sent 200 to beat Latvia
And then the French attacked
So..
I mean
🥀
Yeah I .. rage quit after that
number 2
They were just there
why did bro have no troops on the border with france
And I took lithuania
I was struggling against poland (supply 🥀)
I had 24 there but i must have gotten angry
alright then
Only those two btw 🥀
I didn't even get czech
MAKE TRAINS
It's not that bad 🥀
I consider myself a war expert
I've played territorial.io
And openfront.io
And .. risk
Open front's fun
im not hating on them
Nukes 🔥
Territorial.io is ass 🥀
ok
As well as risk (too many ads)
Nice
I have the risk with no ads
The other map is good too
Uh how's it ?
I played it before the .. ads came
Its sometimes fun
Before I had to pay for fog of wat
your pc is cooked
Yeah and it'll cost you 1000 🥀
give up now yall
RAM shortage
i added a mod and its rven worse
cha cha real smooth
Is the mod good for the swiss?
🥀
i cant even open the tech trees up
just get optimization mods
got no clue
Which is good for switzerland ??
why we talking abt ram bro its a desktop thing
i dont know sorry
everything uses ram
its not rven considered a pc
including laptops
Alright what ?
RAM makes processing faster 🥀
idk where the specs are
tragic
what type of plane is thaty
god damn
i need the wisdom of the bread for the plane desing
design
What
The MIO
That's a slur
ah
Uh full form?
👍
i just know what it is
What is it
Alright just wait 3 more years
might need to be put into a retirement home
So it’s just 3 heavy machine guns, 1 big fuel tank (idr the name) 1 heavy mg turret (TRUST) and after you complete most of the MIO you should be able to add armour
peak shit
How much ram ??
The heavy MG can be switched to light
wait im looking
And my goodness me, fighting shitty Soviet planes is so fun
i always use heavy MG on planes either way if i have a big industry
-100 like every day
pure massacre
Just make sure if you’re outnumbered severely, (1:2.5~) just use interception
@quasi shoal how do i beat the ussr
wish hoi4 was on console
Uh tanks
fair
Yeah Collab gov
how do i do that
collab government reduces surrender thingy
you need 2 spies
i have 3
No clue
Oh and also you want an INSANE strat bomber (works well for USA and UK)
in moscow
then get 55% intel then
I would lose my sanity learning how to play hoi 4 on ps5
okay
strat bomber?
damn
Yes
I mostly use them to destroy forts
but I destroyed 20% of the German industry w 1k of them but to be fair all their planes were destroyed by spitfires
well at least itd run for me
whats good cas for 1940/1941?
It’s just spam earth shaker and 6 engine w all electronics (this is probably not the best design but it works for me)
bruh
Just spam heavy bomb locks
yeah this
IF you have green air and good MIO
and heavy turret
Ram 🥀
bro im trying my best
🥀
what are all the parts here
I’m trying to do a naval invasion on Norway as Germany but it says I have insufficient naval dominance I put some ships in the zone to assist with the naval invasion and a strike force but I’m lost
ive deadass been sit here 5 minutes waiting
fockewulfe is so good bcz of the range, when you reach around the end and use meta design you could reach the urals whilst stationing in Berlin
Patrol
And that’s for fighters
tanks and inf
and cas
and fighters
yeah i wanna make cas
The middle child
yup
How many hours before I actually know what I’m doing?
they're for nerds tho
depends on the person
Go to search button
Task manager
Memory, you'll see the ram
(Atp I'm just annoying but I'm too far in)
Depends on you
bruh i keep getting random troops
500000
from my puppet areas
Nice 👍
do i just disband them
i've seen people with 1k hours do worse than me consistently and I have 400
6 or 7
1k hours in sp vs 400 hours in mp
Personally it took me like 30 tries to defeat France in 1939 start 🥹 ( I tried to go thru the maginot w majority of my divisions like 100 times)
mp always gonna win so no wonder
Go through naval invasions 🥀
I have like 20 in mp lol
Might be a strat
What’s multiplayer like
hell
MP is like genuinely going from elementary school to university in one click
Sweaty tankers
France is ez
and fucing nerds
okay ive got 8gb ram
Alright bub, that's not enough to run chrome these days
dude you ran head first into maginot
I took France Poland and Netherlands and Belgium with 10 hours, however I re loaded save before war about 3 times taking Poland. I found that so difficult but I found that being more aggresive with attacking and better offencive lines saved me about 2 months there
I had to get 16 gb to ensure smooth performance
well that was singe player
Yes 💯 windows eats up resources like a mf
Uh you're gonna have to pay up hard rn or double in the next few months
heavy's aren't meta for sp
I love you fortress buster ❤️
yeah they are when you’re too lazy to attempt to attack Belgium
i could buy a proper pc but
Even after ages of playing I still fear Belgium
im honestly not bothered abt gaming anymore
When should I invade Britain with Germany
I mean the ram's the costliest part atp
mediums can break maginot
I had to pay.. 30000₹ for a new laptop with 16 gb ram
Never tried tbh
3000?
oh wait
idk what currency
that
How do I stop loosing trains to enemy air strikes
380$
thats not bad??
Air sup/inteeception
Uh .. anti air infra
Last month
Prices have doubled.. maybe even tripled for ram 🥀
just bomb iraq
160$ for a stick of 16 gb ram in the big 25
Alr bro chill out
That was last to last decade
idk if i can open up my computer
no hear me out
That’s a distraction
Ram prices will drop bcz people will buy food and water to stock up
Nahhh bro wants the venezulan oil
For a nuclear war
Therefore
Ram prices go down
And we all live happily ever after
is 1941 a good year to fight soviets as germans
How do the allies take back France usualy, do they just do attack over the British channel
Nah they'll go higher cuz companies won't produce that much ram
As early possible
Stockpiles
Yeah, or around that
I’m just building coastal defences
Trust me bro it's only going up unless the bubble bursts
Garrison naval forts iirc
There’s one option left
Crash the market 🥀
ye i think my entire spec list is cooked
Should've updated last year, this bubble might cause the price of ram to go higher.. way higher
Crucial's diving out ie less ram ie higher prices
Yeshhhhhhahahahahhhh
Am playing Japan, no DLCs, I have captured China, parts of the USSR, South-East Asia (no islands) and Mongolia, Germany and the UK are at war, USA is neutral, Germany has around 500 divs I have around 350 divs, should I ally with the UK and beat Germany then turn on the UK, the USSR is alr gone or should I ally with Germany and wipe out the UK?
whats wrong witj the steam console
Nothing it's expensive.. but your choice 🥀👍
Do it
Sure
Eh research it and discuss it with your wife/gf/financial advisor
I'm not even a major
It's significantly cheaper than any full PC, and significantly more powerful and versatile than any console
I dont see any issues with it
Yeah, discuss it with your financial advisor/ family though
If you're in debt (student loans), pay them off first 🙏🙏
nah uni isnt the meta
Well that's just common financial credibility
Dont Take Out loans If you have loans, duh
I'm just sayin 🥀
Right, underwater welding is where it's at 💯
University no ? Nice 👍
level 6 apprenticeship
Or a car technician for any of the German premium brands
where can i find good carrier plane templates
To end up working at the assembly line for the rest of youf life
While you're making above than average Money, it's one of the worst and Most repetitive jobs Out there
Nice work
You don't work in an assembly line, you either end up at a dealership or you open your own shop
thought of making roman empire got stuck at ethiopia nicee
That is absolutely Not the main path for when you start at one of our luxury Car brands
Sure, you can eventually Go into sales
But that's a completely different field to mechatronics
It is the path when you see the ungodly repair bills just to service a beamer
Pretty much lmao
My coworker has some twin turbo beamer and she dreads the day the engine borks itself and gets slapped with potentially a 25k euro bill
I drove a Renault Clio
The Car was valued at 5.5k
It's Timing chain broke
That repair alone would've cost ke 3.5k
They simply told me "yeah we ain't repairing it, also If you get a new Car it's cheaper"
New cars sound fun
I will eventually try to get certified in my local college eventhough they only specialise in toyotas
Atleast it's a good ground to deal with ice, electric, hybrid and hydrogen cars
Since toyota covers it all
But realistically I would prefer to switch over to stellantis and deal with alfas and maseratis
Glad to be back at work after a week and a half of traveling and getting sick
I got a Twingo 3
Adorable lil' thang
The hell
French nuggets are cool but I personally have a bitter dislike for Peugeot because their garboleum crossovers are shared across all of Stellantis
That's the og twingo
Oh right
All the seats could be folded down so you could sleep inside it
Or well the french marketing was that you could woohoo in it
I've heard people say Switzerland can annex and core most of Eurasia without going to war but how is it even possible? Isn't its only expansionist path doing the Alpine Protectorate?
Should I play Fascist France for the achievements when I get home
Probably some stupid path exploit
Ok
Is this a normal Axis size for May 1939?
Like Portugal can core spain, and Anarchist spain can core all the world, so Portugal can core all the world
This template seems to melt the AI, but I want it to be as overkill as possible. Any suggestions?
Yes but how can Switzerland annex most of Africa and Eurasia peacefully?
Good luck achieving that considering anarchist Spains win rates
Coring isn't the most interesting part in there
Also what’s better Latin Bloc or Revise Versailles
As who
Fascist France
Neither
I have to win an achievement
For what
Conquer all of the UK as Fascist France
Napoleon is stronger for that
Can’t be Napoleon because non aligned
You get pretty early goals on the benelux and the uk
Umm I dont think this is normal for a historical run😅
Oh I didn't read the fascist bit
That happens when you don't go historical path, don't worry, Germany will still justify on Poland or WW2 will start in Yugoslavia
Speaking of Napoleonic and non aligned france in general get the fascist advisors added in gotterdamerung
I think I cheesed it by delaying my ideology swap outright and stayed as dem france
well playing as france I did become fascist in 1938......
All my focuses went into industry and army and I clapped Germany instead
One gives + 10% war support and the other -10% consumer goods
And then I turned on the UK
Oh btw you can delay the ideology swap and then defend against axis without joining the allies, beat the Axis and then form the EU
I did that as Napoleon, pretty neat
Pretty much
when I go historical run but non historical path the run becomes cursed(I am in the axis but germany is still doing this:)
I got the 150 destroyer achievement as Napoleon yesterday
Cause France is just fine not doing anything politically
Because most majors will want to kill it
Italy or Germany sooner or later
UK with their alt paths too
I always restart if Germany stays fascist and the uk goes monarchist
That's actually the perfect outcome for me
They both will be in the axis and I want to kill both of them anyway
France with fully completed industry focuses outscales Germany very easily
does anybody want too join a hoi mp server
And considering how stupid the new naval AI is
I'd be confident at the french navy clapping Britain
Just needs more light cruisers
Lol no
alr bro
Servers of those types have a bad reputation usually
its a very small one
Me and my friends got a small hoi4 multiplayer server and we are in desperate need of players to achieve games