hoi4-general

[knotty vortex]

so yeah

i may be cooked

germany left, italy south, russia west ;-;

am i cooked chat

[desert echo]

You play poles?

[knotty vortex]

first ever time

for fun

[desert echo]

History or non historical

[knotty vortex]

im still newbie

do they even have a historical path lol

[desert echo]

Lemme help you twin

[knotty vortex]

okay pleae

my friend is wayyy too powerful

[desert echo]

Historical Ai

[knotty vortex]

im scared

[knotty vortex]

yep

apart from italy

thats my friend

[desert echo]

What poles is this

[desert echo]

Why him?

Nvm

[knotty vortex]

im apart of the allies btw

[desert echo]

Hmmm

Lemme see your focus tree

[knotty vortex]

my screen sucks so its really difficult to show the whole thing

[desert echo]

Okay

[knotty vortex]

thats political

if you can even read it

i also have four year plan

[desert echo]

Military?

You need them too

[knotty vortex]

i suck at this btw lol

so tell me what i gotta do

[desert echo]

Plan west and plan east is kinda... not mandatory

Can I see your template?

[knotty vortex]

sure

[desert echo]

Or do you rather talk in helping longue, I'm going to check my game too

[knotty vortex]

i dont mind

[desert echo]

Where did you get this

[knotty vortex]

i made it

[desert echo]

Okay

[knotty vortex]

i just thought it looked good

[desert echo]

Im in helping longue one

[knotty vortex]

ahh sorry

im in vc with my friend

[desert echo]

Ahh ok

[knotty vortex]

i thought it was a text channe;

[desert echo]

Okay okay

Lemme show you my template

[knotty vortex]

okay

which one

[desert echo]

Superior firepower

[knotty vortex]

okay

theres justification of war goals against me

i think its the soviets

[knotty vortex]

what now

[desert echo]

Plan west

[knotty vortex]

okay

we gotta prepare

i need those templates fast

[desert echo]

Anyway I cant find template but I'll just type it here

Logistic support, Anti tank support, and anti air support

The divs are 2x4, yours already good

[strong umbra]

oh hell naw

polish peasant union

u fr?

[desert echo]

Why tho

[strong umbra]

we rly going communist Poland now?

[desert echo]

[unique comet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/802977594860503042/1112405984757944430/received_296216822652469.gif

[strong umbra]

I did not need this in my life

[knotty vortex]

i gave up danzig

[unique comet]

until now

[strong umbra]

and all of your resources

buddy

[knotty vortex]

bro

[strong umbra]

9/10 of yoir resources are in katowittz

[knotty vortex]

i have italy, germany and ussr up my ass

[strong umbra]

and now its a German core

[knotty vortex]

what do you want me to do

[strong umbra]

it aint that hard

just defend

[knotty vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[desert echo]

Tbf he is a newcomer

[knotty vortex]

i choose peace

[strong umbra]

ye and you choose Poland with 5 provinces

and no resources

no sea

and your smudged in between user and germany

[knotty vortex]

oh well

im playing for fun

[unique comet]

attack lithuania

[desert echo]

I'll run poles now

[knotty vortex]

not the end of the world if i lose

[strong umbra]

ussr is also gonna send u an ultimatum btw

[unique comet]

then you have sea access

[strong umbra]

and they'll send an ultimatum for that aswell

[desert echo]

That's the monarchy path I believe

[strong umbra]

plus memel germamy

[knotty vortex]

so whats the plan then chaps

[strong umbra]

just restart and build mills day one

jk jk

[unique comet]

Caucasus

[desert echo]

Defend ftom USSR only

[strong umbra]

wtf broski

[knotty vortex]

what about the axis

[strong umbra]

ima play hoi4 now

which country

which path?

[desert echo]

They are not chasing you anymore

[knotty vortex]

good

[desert echo]

Fuhrer only wants Danzig

[knotty vortex]

okay plan west is done

[unique comet]

you hav arms of tyrany?

if yes,choose sweden

if not, the idk

[strong umbra]

I have all dlc

[knotty vortex]

whats the next national focus

[strong umbra]

and gdynia

and katowittz

which is all your coal gone

[desert echo]

Plan east I guess

[strong umbra]

and other stuff

[knotty vortex]

ussr war with finland

[desert echo]

So sigma

[knotty vortex]

cant

[unique comet]

then choose sweden

you have steel

[strong umbra]

what if I go bolivarian alliance

is that fun?

[desert echo]

Try Uruguay

[unique comet]

never played

[strong umbra]

is that (s)pain

[desert echo]

[strong umbra]

Belgian Congo or Ethiopia

im feeling african

[desert echo]

Ethiopia

[strong umbra]

aight

[desert echo]

Try it

[strong umbra]

Hopefully mussolini does mussolini

oh no

2 mills

no steel

one free civ

might aswell trade with it

cant build anything with it anyways

[desert echo]

Nope

Embargo

[strong umbra]

no?

[desert echo]

Doesn't Eth have embargo?

[desert echo]

I forgor, probably for int trade only

[strong umbra]

who cares about mussolini enough to embargo Ethiopia

[desert echo]

Get mercenaries quick brother

[strong umbra]

why are the voicelines so goofy

[sudden thistle]

Hoi4 mercenaries?

[knotty vortex]

i think im cooked

france is gone

[desert echo]

Arab mercenaries

Eth path

[knotty vortex]

so basically

it didn’t go well

at all

why do i suck so bad

[inner iron]

When your only coal is in saf

Have fun

[timber shadow]

guyss

i wanna larp as fascist russia but they dont have generals or high command

what do i do???

[sudden thistle]

U can make generals

[knotty vortex]

anybody mind helping me?

@desert echo wanna vc?

in helping lounge

i can screenshare a new singleplayer

[timber shadow]

how

[timber shadow]

what do u need help with

[knotty vortex]

just general aspects of the game

i understand what i should be doing

just need help understanding and improving my skills

[sudden thistle]

Go to that general tab, and on the bottom left there should be a button

Field commanders or something

Another tab will open

Promote some of them

[timber shadow]

are those also historical

or just randomly generated

[sudden thistle]

Idk

[cedar kite]

Depends on the country

[timber shadow]

@knotty vortex i cant hear u bro

[knotty vortex]

uhh

maybe im speaking to quietly

[timber shadow]

pick italy

check off ironman

regular ig

doesnt really matter

[honest imp]

does ai just not build railways?

I'm watching Japan fight China and take supply hubs

and then just never connect them

so stupid

[knotty vortex]

@timber shadow i gtg

sorry bro

[timber shadow]

np

[knotty vortex]

thanks for the help though

i appreciate it

[timber shadow]

np

sorry for my english bro

i legit cant speak

[finite plume]

Yes, Bangladesh needs this much provinces

It's essential to the world map

[knotty vortex]

you did great bro

keep it up

the fact you spoke english to me was great too

[cedar kite]

Rt56?

[uneven drum]

Is the combat width meta still 18 width?

https://tenor.com/view/creature-entity-cute-silly-cat-petting-silly-creature-petting-sily-creature-gif-12583798057344398771

[merry sluice]

yall know this legend of a person?

[cedar kite]

Peak turkey

[merry sluice]

what are the conditions irl for this to occur?

[cedar kite]

Idk

I just typed set_cosmetic_tag TUR HET_neutrality in the console commands

[kind vale]

Nuclear Philippines

[fallen vigil]

prc is crazy OP

[paper echo]

🥀

[cedar kite]

1% pp gain 🥀

[strong umbra]

ban tarde if special goods

better in the long run

always pick that

[cedar kite]

Attagreek

[timber shadow]

guys

is china a major

in 1936

[solemn bay]

That is NOT Spain

[strong umbra]

yes

ot always is considered a major

by the game atleast

[timber shadow]

what if i declare on them as soviet union to get lessons of war

i start with 120 divs

[strong umbra]

still

[timber shadow]

i can beat them w japanese help

[strong umbra]

one of 8 base majors

one of the 8 starting majors

[neat kayak]

Back to the roots before turning 18

[queen bronze]

oh i see. am i supposed to not take as many of the price controls at once as i can. but more 1, wait for it to end then another one? for germany

[dusky burrow]

bangladesh is like the size of tunisia

It's quite large

[idle crystal]

Does anyone know if there's a mod that adds the countries of:
Francois Republic;
Russy Federation;
The Empire;
Allied Kingdom;
Walstatte Confederacy;
Magna Rumelia;
Kingdom of Ildoa;
Ispagna Collectives;
Akitsushima Dominion;
Turkmen Principalities;
Unified States;
and Dacia?

[dusky burrow]

myanmar is literally larger than france for reference

[cedar kite]

The empire is in vanilla

[idle crystal]

I want a mod that adds them all, and at game start.

[finite plume]

Population wise too, place has nearly 180M people

Now I gotta do the states and VPs

[queen bronze]

am i supposed to not take as many of the price controls at once as i can. but more 1, wait for it to end then another one? for germany

[heavy vigil]

6 7

[pastel dust]

ehhehehehehheheheh

truly one of the numbers of all time

that's all i joined for ngl

peace

[clear dagger]

The weight of your sins shall crush you.

[little compass]

Y'all how do I fix this new no accessible regions thing

[strong umbra]

for navy right?

just change naval headquarters

[wicked haven]

why is NCNS so negative on steam?

I do think they could make nuclear powerplants and hydrodams produce energy but it's not that bad overall

[cedar kite]

They made it so the reactors and dams make energy requirement are less

In a state

[wicked haven]

ye but they should be net producers of energy

[supple summit]

yo lads should I mass produce light tanks with as much breakthrough crammed in or should i focus on making medium tanks with as much breakthrough

[knotty vortex]

how do i do navy as italy

do i need a good navy?

i have no clue how to even begin using navy

[sudden thistle]

are u new to the game?

if so just ignore navy

[knotty vortex]

yeah i am

still getting to know army and air

took me until 1937 march to beat ethiopia lol

i did beat them in september before

dude why is everybody trade embargoing me

what did i do to piss everyone off

[sudden thistle]

go in decisions and look at "ethiopia war escalation"

should be the very top

[sudden thistle]

hover over the roman numerals

[sudden thistle]

it only happens during the actual war i forgot

mb

[knotty vortex]

everybody must just hate me

maybe cause i told austria i would protect them?

god damn it why is there always resistance

what do i do about that

im gonna try develop my african nations

good idea?

[vague sedge]

Do libya only if so

[knotty vortex]

oh i did ethiopia

why libya

[vague sedge]

Ethiopia is not worth it

[knotty vortex]

oh ok

[vague sedge]

Strategic location bro

[knotty vortex]

i see

im honestly completely ignoring going to war with people

create the best economy i can

will i regret that

[somber agate]

Why border gore

[pure rampart]

Playing the chaos mod, it's been very generous with research slots lmao. Started with 2, as mongolia

NOOO I LOST THEM ALL

[agile perch]

🔥

[spiral sphinx]

how long is your average session?!

[frank estuary]

How should I try and end this war? Send troops to Europe? Or push a tile and build a supply hub until I reach Moscow?

[spiral sphinx]

what happend in europe lmao

[frank estuary]

Non-Historical happened.

[spiral sphinx]

what war are you even fighting

[paper echo]

idk but the session number is not accurate

idk what makes the session go up

[spiral sphinx]

you can lwk just let the russias bleed out

[frank estuary]

That's gonna take a while.

[spiral sphinx]

you can fight

but just with some troops

[solemn hinge]

after 1.5k hours im finaly getting a hang for navy

[neat kayak]

Why game, why....?

[sudden thistle]

Better dead than red

Wait a second

[neat kayak]

There is a british mandate of russia in tannu tuva

and forget about east and west germany

no we have west and east mongolia

[upper shuttle]

Is there like a culture mod for hoi4?

[dapper orchid]

DO SOMETHING

[dapper orchid]

Acceptable terms

[fallen vigil]

ever since i got the new dlc this game has been MEGA slow

im thinking about upgrading my cpu due to how slow it is

[dapper orchid]

WHY ARENT THEY DOING SOMETHING

[sudden thistle]

Conflicting orders

Fuel?

[split bane]

Did you change your headquarter?

[dapper orchid]

Okay it worked

[upper shuttle]

.

[wispy knoll]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2007026732&searchtext=real+time

do it

[prime gull]

Why the instant loss?

[dusky burrow]

Those are historical Croatian borders at that atime

Thing is Hungary would also have Backa

[copper sluice]

pov netherlands

[frank estuary]

Wtf is this surrender limit? They were at 0%, and still didn't capitulate.

[serene breach]

this division is so cursed and bad but somehow it works

[copper sluice]

he bought the dlc, no compromise no surrender

[frank estuary]

Is it a bug, though? I've seen this happen with commie Germany multiple times.

[dusky burrow]

land cruiser moment

but your breakthrough is low and that's an issue

[serene breach]

i still didn't found out why breakthrough is so important

[vivid juniper]

Hie is anyone supposed to fight Britain?

[dusky burrow]

basically an enemy division deals damage to you via its attack stats

if you have no breakthrough each point of attack is 4 times as effective as usual

so for each point fo breakthrough a point of attack is reduced from 4 times effectiveness to 1 times effectiveness

[vivid juniper]

I literally can’t invade them because they always have overwhelming naval dominance, and they Erase any paratroopers you send them

[dusky burrow]

do they have like 17 divisions on each tile or something

[vivid juniper]

I only had one attempt and it was late game and it was bloody maddening

[vivid juniper]

Yes, but
they always have naval dominance

[dusky burrow]

Naval bomb their naval dominance

[vivid juniper]

But they always have air supremacy over the channel

[serene breach]

okay thanks but 290 breakthrough for infantry is very good no?

[fallen vigil]

how do i kick them out i dont understand the requirements

[serene breach]

or why it is low

[dusky burrow]

You can do better

If for instance you replaced the two motorized artillery with two medium tanks + 1 inf

[vivid juniper]

It’s literally unfair because they always have naval dominance and can always naval invade you no matter what

Line your coast, they will just go through it

[wicked haven]

yes because it's historical

you can defeat them though if you move in 1940

but you need a high light attack fleet

or cheap dd spam

with cas on the channel

[waxen cairn]

I wish we had the ability to get and offer peace deals during wat

war

[wicked haven]

if you are invading past 40 I would reccomend building a battlefleet that can sink the RN

[serene breach]

okay let me try it

[wicked haven]

but they will actually build good ships so it's quite hard compared to 40

[waxen cairn]

like maybe sometimes i shouldnt have to fight to the end

Anyone have a mod that allows offering peace treaties

[wicked haven]

you don't like having a total war with Sweden because they joined Comintern?

[vivid juniper]

Like literally , and that’s been my predicament with playing a historical ahistorical Germany because they can’t. I can’t invade them properly. The only time I did it was very late game and by surprise before they could move everything.

And they were already a factin so they could come back anytime

[wicked haven]

I think the RN is a lot stronger in NCNS if you have it

[waxen cairn]

No i just hate how if a war is basically in a stalemate I cant offer a peace treaty and have to surrender

[digital aurora]

i think i underestimed how many mills i need for my medium tanks, because i have a deficit that will last 400 days, though i do have like 96 tank divisions in the field

[wicked haven]

but as long as you have light cruisers with high light attack

[vivid juniper]

I don’t have the DLC, but I’m affected by the changes

[wicked haven]

they should add Percentages agreement mechanics

[serene breach]

what about this

[vivid juniper]

I’m trying to do a French empire restore game and Britain is literally hounding me and I don’t have the fighters or ships to keep them at bay and they can just naval invade me until I get tired

[waxen cairn]

Yeah i very much agree

Its annoying

[wicked haven]

you can build a pretty decent navy as France

[remote quarry]

without the superheavy, maybe

[vivid juniper]

Paratroopers are barely viable as you need air supremacy over the channel and South England, but they can’t stick around long enough

Even build out 24 combat width

[remote quarry]

use a proper breakthrough light tank & flame tank design

[dusky burrow]

What does your tank design look like

[wicked haven]

Ye I am not a big user of paras ngl

[serene breach]

trashy

[dusky burrow]

naval bomber

[wicked haven]

I just smash the RN

if you have air supremacy and a good fleet you can destroy their navy

[dusky burrow]

Yeah especially because they have to patrol now I imagine it'd be easier

[wicked haven]

ye you can attrit the screens a lot easier

[serene breach]

i have no idea how to make tanks or airplane but i just tried max out breakthrough without making it too expensive

[copper sluice]

successful game I think

[vivid juniper]

I actually tried the air supremacy approach with Germany and the closest I got was the beach and no further

[upper shuttle]

.

[wicked haven]

did you build any ships?

[vivid juniper]

I just didn’t with Germany and I’ve always ignored the Navy tree

Because I have other matters

[dusky burrow]

Use this as a cruiser

[wicked haven]

if you finish the queue the game gives you from the start and build a bunch of spam dds you can get domination

ye or CL

[serene breach]

bro I FORGOT ABOUT RADIO

[dusky burrow]

try something like this

Yeah I was wondering why breakthrough was so low

[vivid juniper]

So finish out the French shio they give and make some destroyers for spam and put whatever planes I have on supremacy then

[wicked haven]

or the CL Livadeia posted

CL is more meta but you have to research some stuff

[serene breach]

yeah

thanks

[wicked haven]

also concentrate and train the French navy into a strike force

[dusky burrow]

Research what in particular

[vivid juniper]

I just learned this, and I felt like a total moron that the reason my pilots keep crashing is having it on day and night and little training

[dusky burrow]

It occurs to me that the research needed for each class is relatively the same

[serene breach]

should i do same with flame tanks? i have lot of fuel drums bc cruisers cost lot of fuel

[dusky burrow]

You should stack breakthrough here too

so something like this

[wicked haven]

radar

[wicked haven]

I mean a trash screen spam

[dusky burrow]

I mean you research the best radar you can

[wicked haven]

to soak up screening losses

[dusky burrow]

You don't need the radar per se

[remote quarry]

radar actively make your ship worse

like literally worse

[heavy vigil]

fixed turret and fuel drums :(

[dusky burrow]

The cruiser design soaks up losses just as easily as the same amount of destroyers in terms of ic

[remote quarry]

despite the cost

[dusky burrow]

Wait what?!

[dusky burrow]

Yeah fixed turret is a travesty

[remote quarry]

per ic yes

everything up to radar 3

you can do the math and compare cost increase ^ 2 and hit chance increase

[tame granite]

Are mountaineers better than rangers

[serene breach]

yeah this should do

[wicked haven]

even scouting?

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see what you mean

Although I don't know how hit chance factors into accuracy calculations precisely

Whether it is additive or multiplicative

Even in the worst case it's 4.1% worse by your metric

So I stay safe with radar

[copper sluice]

if I do this, I wont take over the faction, right?

[dusky burrow]

I don't think it does anything to your faction rules or your faction influence

[digital aurora]

i was about to say something about the 4km/h speed but then remebered that Since its a support company it won't affect a division speed, so you could actually reduce the engine stat to 1

[dusky burrow]

so you should still be able to take over

[dusky burrow]

It will affect speed, but the infantry in the division is also 4 kmh so it doesn't matter

But everyone does get an operative slot which is awesome

[serene breach]

i cant reduce it under 4

[remote quarry]

except for scouting

but why would you need that

[digital aurora]

Ah fair enough than, im intrested to see what your tempate is for this

Also personally, i could be wrong but i would add a easy maintence module so you can get a little more reliability

[wicked haven]

I like to scout

[serene breach]

im just thinking about if i gonna be able to crush end game allies

bc they got everytime like 70M deployed manpower in the field and at every province like 30 division

[digital aurora]

also for some ungoldy reason, tunna Tuva, my puppet Bulgaria and Yugoslavia are fighting japan and the allies, they are also all in my faction

[digital aurora]

Honestly with enemies like that once you get a decent couple of encirclements their entire front starts to fail

Well now that im at peace (for now) i guess i can focus on recovering my tank units and expanding my forces

[safe wing]

Fun historical fact: The USSR recognized Manchuko as a country

[remote quarry]

use an actual div

if it's end game

fill it with half medium spg

you need more soft to nuke 30 div per tile

[wraith mauve]

I need help my soldiers keep advancing into germany when they shouldn’t or else germany will blow up world someone help

[sudden thistle]

battleplan off?

is a ally pushing into land?

[wraith mauve]

No

[pallid tendon]

Question, why does Britan own all of Iraq's oil in the game is that ever explained?

[wraith mauve]

Smart just turn off battle plan does that make npthem stop advancing

[sudden thistle]

lemme find the reason

one minute

no im thinking of iran

mb

no clue

[twin flint]

why does spain have helicopters in 1936?

[pallid tendon]

Wait is it Iran?

[sudden thistle]

i think UK has iraq oil

[sudden thistle]

bro

[devout trench]

Alt history Spanish armada

[sudden thistle]

they invented it

or something very close to it

[pallid tendon]

Yeah but why

[sudden thistle]

no clue

[heavy vigil]

same reason they have kuwait

colonialism

[misty fossil]

if you use armour meme use a heavy tank

[dusky burrow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Petroleum_Company

[cedar kite]

Yes it is explained cause anglo-iraqi oil company there's a whole branch about either more cooperation of nationalizing it

The only thing I don't get is why doesnt the uk start with resource rights in khuzestan in iran

[upper shuttle]

does road to 56 make greece a lot better in hoi4? compared to its vanilla + all dlcs version

[cedar kite]

I would just play that Greek focus tree mod

Huge tree

[quartz sigil]

this game is good

[heavy vigil]

why didnt ukraine just do this smh

[upper shuttle]

I’m basically trying to recreate the Byzantine empire

[cedar kite]

The byzantine path in that mod is pretty good

Is this for achievement?

[upper shuttle]

No

For fun

[cedar kite]

Why does the a have an arrow

[upper shuttle]

And is there a way to add more building slots with a mod beyond the maximum in vanilla?

[heavy vigil]

wdym

[cedar kite]

In ucrania

Like what is that

[balmy bridge]

took forever but its done now

[cedar kite]

How long?

[balmy bridge]

3 hours game time at max speed

1955 in game

[shell dagger]

the support ships are cool, but why not oilers?

especially now that the naval range system is reworked they would be a lot more useful than support ships

[tulip thorn]

Doesnt the support ship already give more range to your navy

Like doesnt it give a little bonus to range

[slim nexus]

I look forward to the improvement of the wiki on the new dlc factions

[shell dagger]

ya ur right actually

[tulip thorn]

United kingdom of cyprus and northern cyprus

[fallen vigil]

guys can someone help i dont understand the requiremenets to kick them out

[tulip thorn]

You cant kick them if they are in a war with you

[fallen vigil]

but im not at war rn

the japanese war ended

[split bane]

If they're in an offensive war that you aren't a part of you can kick them out
You can get rid of this rule by going under rules and just clicking on it, spending one faction point

[fallen vigil]

sorry i just bought the dlc i clicked on the faction button where do i get rid of the rule?

[split bane]

See the button that's the stack of paper? Click that, that's where you'll find the rules

[fallen vigil]

found it tysm!! sorry for disturbing you

[split bane]

Np

[vivid juniper]

I really hate the Carlist Spain AI they go to war with literally everyone in their tree

I can’t Ally with them if they’re going to create more problems

Trying to be at peace with the Americans in British impossible with Spain

So to summarize

Refused to join war when needed.

decides to go to war with Britain over Gibraltar

decides to go to war with the United States over Cuba

[tulip thorn]

All these poor brits got stuck in Cyprus

[fallen vigil]

bombers are uselessssss

cas and fighters ONLY in my household

[tulip thorn]

They even had quite a bit of navy stuck aswell

Very nice

[opal nymph]

o7 to the 1 naval bomber

That guy is going to be a propaganda hero

[tulip thorn]

fr

German public will eat that propaganda up

japanese ai has actually been doing things this game

and not dying

[opal nymph]

Poor US AI

It cant cope with the new naval system

To be fair, neither can any other AI it seems

[tulip thorn]

I only ever see the us struggle when England falls

The japanese took hawaii 5 months after I invaded england

[opal nymph]

Ah

[tulip thorn]

Every other game I see the us hold the Philippines

[opal nymph]

Maybe it is just that players are able to abuse the new navy better

[tulip thorn]

Or like the south of the Philippines

Never the north

[opal nymph]

And just vaporize every single screen

[opal nymph]

When I brought the US into the China war as China, japan immediately went after the Philippines

Also it resulted in the other warlords joining comintern, so the war became a quick mess

[tulip thorn]

Oh my

[opal nymph]

But the Philippines in all my experiences died or Japan died before they could really do anything

[tulip thorn]

The ai is not made for alot of the new features they add

[opal nymph]

Or I played Japan and played democratic

[tulip thorn]

Thats like half the games I play

Japan either does really good or really bad

This japan wanted to lock in

[opal nymph]

It is concerning that i was able to wipe enemy fleets with an escort carrier, a heavy cruiser that was majority float planes, and some destroyers/seaplane tenders

[tulip thorn]

I just noticed that they took new zealand

[opal nymph]

Multiplied by 8

Wonder how Mil HQs will work in the pacific

Because I assume they would be range based in its stats

[tulip thorn]

I cant wait for the ai to struggle with them

[opal nymph]

Imagine if you can capture generals by overruning HQs lmao

It would be peak comedy to paradrop on them

[tulip thorn]

That could actually be cool

[opal nymph]

If i ever played MP, I would just make paratroopers and drop them on supply hubs and military hqs

[fallen vigil]

wtf 640 days???

[tulip thorn]

98% of mp servers and hosts have them banned

I've only ever seen 1 host allow them

[fallen vigil]

this has to be the most pp gain in this game

[tulip thorn]

Pretty sure italy can get more

[alpine hare]

ngl no dlc has hit as hard as No Step Back

[fallen vigil]

i love the new dlc but holy shit this game is slow

[lethal linden]

Can somebody change my name to Nazi Germany

Thanks in advance

[split bane]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[lethal linden]

They don’t understand the things I say on twitter

It’s a privilege to be your guys fuhrer

Red army this

[kind vale]

Was Germany pushing the ussr before japan joined?

[tulip thorn]

I was playing germany

I used toolpack to give japan a eastern siberia puppet

[kind vale]

Ohhhhhhh

Will japan fight the ussr in historical if they own most of asia

[wicked haven]

What is that pfp

[kind vale]

A war criminal

[indigo elk]

What's the best doctrines pound for pound at the moment?

[brittle onyx]

This invasion is hell and I am having a blast

[random delta]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-fan-fan-cool-chat-cold-chat-gif-133443280791654714

[crisp wyvern]

I love playing as turkiye

[tawdry edge]

very strange historical game, carlist spain spawned, ethiopia managed the get the allies involved in the war, germany hasnt done anschluss

like what the hell is happening

[crisp wyvern]

non historical moment

[tawdry edge]

historical is on

everything else is the same

[crisp wyvern]

Hitler sat on a different chair a Thursday morning in 1938 and that's why everything went the other way

[round pivot]

🪳 💪🏻

[tawdry edge]

is it me or the game has been kinda weird since the last dlc?

[vapid bough]

The Philippines was what was holding the fabric of reality together

You changed ideology, now its broken

[tawdry edge]

https://tenor.com/view/tomboy-gif-8129542251720456015

[crisp wyvern]

All of my mods are useless since the new update and dlc came out, the new factions mechanics are broken last time I tried the latest update, it was so bad that I had to roll back to update 1.16.8

[tawdry edge]

i dindu nuffin

[tawdry edge]

the faction missions are so pointless

they are so non specific and bland

and the rewards suck

[crisp wyvern]

and the game is broken in patches from before and after the latest update, tried to play a Germany run and the options to form reichskommissariats or fix my economy were gone, even if I did their respective focus tree

and in the latest patch, Japan's and manchukuos portrait leaders were missing, only worked if I had all of my mods disabled because once I use one their portraits dissappear

but who cares, hoi4 is love, hoi4 is life

[crisp wyvern]

count your days

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-gif-25741420

[crisp wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-turkiye-kaan-ozdil-man-gif-19334490

[cedar kite]

Not American lol

[crisp wyvern]

sjskwjsksjs

Two of my best friends are Turkish, and they brainwashed me into thinking that turkiye is the best nation

but the best nation in reality is....

albania

https://tenor.com/view/flag-albanian-albania-gif-7347927199278907399

[lethal linden]

https://youtu.be/r2DZzyeni6I?si=56me8BCCIOzvJ0BH
@crisp wyvern

[broken sky]

Hey, guys

[crisp wyvern]

Sorry bro, I'm more fond of the German Empire

[broken sky]

What's the G option for the screens subdoctrine in navy rn?

[lethal linden]

😊

[broken sky]

I've been using New School for raw stats alone... so I'm wondering if there is a better option

[crisp wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/helo-chat-kaiser-hello-gif-18125785764661094265

[lethal linden]

It all went bad September 1st son

Nobody needed to die

[crisp wyvern]

If only did Gavrilo Princip keep himself from shooting Franz

[lethal linden]

Things were much better under the Kaiser

[indigo elk]

Paraguay has to be the most dumb nation to fight. I don't even know how I've just been set back 6 months. Completely surrounded, already taken their capital, complete air domination including CAS, almost full supply for my forces... Yet they just sit there 12 divisions on a tile sponging every attack.

I've bled so much equipment on them I cba to even continue. Everything was perfect up until that point, barring Chile accepting my ultimatum.

Discount Che Guerrera

[tulip thorn]

Paraguay is the 2nd most annoying nation in the game

Stupid river navy

I love casualties

I also love how several nations are just losing troops to unknown

[indigo elk]

Who is number one

[indigo elk]

The problem with casualties in this game is the AI have so much Manpower that playing for kills isnt particularly worth it

[maiden hornet]

just did this in a hour and a half

[pale flare]

yipeeee

[tulip thorn]

uk

Just because they guarantee everything

[tulip thorn]

Your goal most of the time isnt to kill off all manpower

its equipment

Kill off as many units as possible, destroy their supply and stock piles

and you win

[pale flare]

should i take shetland islands

[tulip thorn]

What even are they lmao

[pale flare]

no idea, im gonna make it mine though

[indigo elk]

The UK isn't that bad. They're pretty easy to knock out for their size. Every major can defeat them with relative ease.

[tulip thorn]

Its most likely not worth your peace deal points

[pale flare]

oh this apparently

[pale flare]

i got 12k its fine

[tulip thorn]

Like I said, their guaranties are the worst thing in the game

The uk is really easy to kill 98% of the time

You get a landing and its over

[indigo elk]

I often burn through my own equipment faster than the enemy burns through theirs

[tulip thorn]

Are you battle planning

Even as minor nations, I very rarely run out of equipment

[indigo elk]

Yeah

[tulip thorn]

Thats why

Micro even the smallest little bit

Dont battleplan with normal infantry either

Unless you have crazy air cover

[indigo elk]

So when you say don't battleplan. Do you still draw the front line and just no offense ordered or do you not even draw a front and manually move everything?

My holding infantry I just set to not attack or cautious tbf.

Its the stormtroopers which have the rough life.

[tulip thorn]

I battle plan when im either feeling lazy, have air or know my troops will melt the enemy

I more so like to micro tanks and special forces

Thats what I liked so much about mp

Unless the player your against is terrible at the game you cant really battle plan

[tulip thorn]

But yes I still draw the front

I will not micro every single infantry unit to the place where they need to hold

[indigo elk]

I will give it a try

I could do with advice on something... when playing Argentina, what order should I attack the South American factions in? I've been doing Uruguay, Chile, Bolivia, Peru Paraguay, and lesving Brazil until last, but I think I'm probably doing myself a disservice by not going for Brazil after Chile.

[tulip thorn]

Rush brazil asap

They start really really weak

Do not leave them last

[indigo elk]

So declare war immediately on them before Chile, after completing the old enemy?

[tulip thorn]

Like as soon as your ready invade brazil

If your going fascist

You will get a few free units

[indigo elk]

I am

[tulip thorn]

Get those free units and spam infantry

[pale flare]

daz a lot

[indigo elk]

So do I even use the nation focuses or just justify?

[pale flare]

oh hey theres a scroll thing

[misty fossil]

how

[pallid zephyr]

how

[pale flare]

peace conference, yoinked half the world's navy

[pallid zephyr]

🥀

[pale flare]

my navy is what got me to 50% war participation anyways so it all works out

[tulip thorn]

idk

[tulip thorn]

either or

[tulip thorn]

Like I actually dont know

It is 1944 frame with the tiles

But I only have torp 2s 💔

that reminds me

I should get torp 3s

[misty fossil]

8.3 sub visibility

have you tried fleet submarines

[tulip thorn]

Im unlocking them rn

[misty fossil]

and uh

try using AIP engines

lower reliability sure but does it matter if you dont get hit

do you set your wolfpacks to patrol & always engage

[tulip thorn]

I like range thank you very much

[tulip thorn]

no

I have them on conoy raid

[misty fossil]

weird

i mean

[indigo elk]

Hmmm... justifying is probably quicker tbf and bypasses the focus.

[misty fossil]

oh that brings me to another question

how do you use the replenishment ship with a sub task force? do you put it into the same sub TF

or does it go into a separate one

[tulip thorn]

I have no idea

You talking about the support ships right

[misty fossil]

yes

the other one is the repair ship

[tulip thorn]

I have no idea

[misty fossil]

im talking about the not-repair one

[tulip thorn]

I've used them twice, once as the us and once as italy

I didnt even see much of a difference with my task force range

[misty fossil]

hm

[tulip thorn]

I had 100 support ships and 100 repair ships

[misty fossil]

check what stats the support ship has

if it has like 20000km range then its a supply ship

idk

i play with VNR which has its own replenishment ship

[noble citrus]

jesus, I didn't expect Italy to tank all of northern Africa by themselves 😭 🙏

[maiden hornet]

huh thats a lot of planes

[noble citrus]

at this rate we'll win WW2 in 1942

[warped flint]

Trust me they will lose it as fast as they get it

[quasi shoal]

This screenshot hurts

[tulip thorn]

hey atleast they remembered to take a real screenshot

And not a phone camera

[noble citrus]

literally all of my playthroughs Italy were WRECKED like 3 months after invading British Egypt, but now it looks like Italy are doing a comeback

[warped flint]

Be carefull.... Italy does that almost everytime in my games but they get encircled in egypt and lose all of africa

[tulip thorn]

Funny enough

[quasi shoal]

Kill the allies

[tulip thorn]

My italy only needed help in northern africa

after I used tanks to take egypt

Italy marched down to south africa

[tulip thorn]

Im working on it

Im taking along time on purpose

[warped flint]

I remember I used tanks to take iraq and stuff and then the syrians joined the allies and encircled my tanks in iraq

[tulip thorn]

💔 🥀

[warped flint]

Should I do historical hungary or fascist hungary

[quasi shoal]

Why

[tulip thorn]

Here is country map

[tulip thorn]

Because I want to

[quasi shoal]

Monarchist

[warped flint]

no

[tulip thorn]

I like playing late game

[warped flint]

I hate it

it gets laggy

[tulip thorn]

fascist is stronger

[quasi shoal]

Why

[tulip thorn]

Because I do

[warped flint]

hmmmm

[quasi shoal]

It gets so laggy

[tulip thorn]

Most of my games go to 48 and later

[quasi shoal]

And it's either steamroll the allies or get slogged down in the middle of nowhere

[quasi shoal]

Hist hungary is boring imo

[tulip thorn]

Not really

[warped flint]

I have played them once like a year ago

[quasi shoal]

Imo

[warped flint]

I only do fascist hungary when I play them

[noble citrus]

aaaaaaaaand Italy are getting pushed back down south and are about to get 5 divisions encircled

sorry, 7 divisions

[quasi shoal]

Play that one democratic monarchist path

[warped flint]

no

thats not a option bro

fascist or historical

[quasi shoal]

Why

[warped flint]

I dont like playing monarchist hungary

its boring

[tulip thorn]

Because they dont want to

[quasi shoal]

Play communist

[warped flint]

bro, historical or fascist

[noble citrus]

never realised how easy it would be as Hungary if I just appointed a fascist king

[tulip thorn]

The communist path is like the same as historical

[quasi shoal]

Neither

[tulip thorn]

But your communist

[quasi shoal]

Exactly

[warped flint]

boring

[quasi shoal]

You're picking up what I'm putting down

[tulip thorn]

Why would you want to be communist

[warped flint]

This is like the only good thing here

besides coring the balkans

[tulip thorn]

Im ngl

I forgot that communist hungary forms balkan

Even though bulgaria does it better

[quasi shoal]

Do whatever path gives the most cavalry buffs and run cavalry only

[warped flint]

No

I am not doing communist hungary

[tulip thorn]

Artillery only

[quasi shoal]

Is communist the one with all the cavalry

I haven't checked the tree in a while

[warped flint]

monarchist one

democratic gets a little

[tulip thorn]

Do something like this

[quasi shoal]

Not art only

It needs to be all line art

[tulip thorn]

Sorry forgot support company

Its so peak

Fine fine

[quasi shoal]

No sp art

No motorized

Only line art

[olive hearth]

oh yeah i love having 3.9 org

beautiful

[warped flint]

You guys are worthless

ill just do historical

[quasi shoal]

So do i

[tulip thorn]

Peak

[tulip thorn]

The low hp is the worst part

That unit will just die

[olive hearth]

true

[quasi shoal]

You can lower the combat width

Iirc

[olive hearth]

I mean either it will win in 2 seconds and loose half the equipment or just instantly disintegrate

[tulip thorn]

I didnt do that part of the doctrine

[quasi shoal]

One of the doctrines lowers combat width for line art

[olive hearth]

do it

[tulip thorn]

Nvm I did

I forgot

I meant to replace it

But I forgot

Without it

The unit is 60 width

[indigo elk]

Anyone got a good starting tank template I can use while I build up the industry? I was thinking 3x medium and 6x motorised, then pushing it uo to 6x medium tanks and eventually fling it out

[olive hearth]

what nation are you playing

[tulip thorn]

If your not playing a major, dont even bother

Just do special forces

[olive hearth]

what is that atrocity

[tulip thorn]

A tank divison

[olive hearth]

yes true

[indigo elk]

Argentina.

[tulip thorn]

Its cheap and simple

[olive hearth]

with cavalry and field hospitals?

[tulip thorn]

If you did not know calv is better to use than moterized if you dont have camels or mech

[tulip thorn]

Field hospitals is good

[olive hearth]

dont know about that

[tulip thorn]

Atleast level 2 is

[warped flint]

They are

[olive hearth]

not for tank divisions

[warped flint]

experience

Stats

[tulip thorn]

yes for tank divisions

[warped flint]

They are good

[olive hearth]

tanks basically take no losses

[slim nexus]

Whats best cavalry

[tulip thorn]

HP bonus

[olive hearth]

so they dont losse the experience

[tulip thorn]

and exp loss

[olive hearth]

also they are expensive asf

[warped flint]

They do take losses

meh

[olive hearth]

basically none

[warped flint]

If you got tanks you can afford it

[indigo elk]

I cant get enkugh of them

[olive hearth]

thats true

[tulip thorn]

The hp bonus my guy

[olive hearth]

i would rather put the other company

how is it called

the thing that gives you more reliability

[warped flint]

uh

[tulip thorn]

Reliability is a fake stat

[warped flint]

I know what your talking about I think

but thats not good anyway

[tulip thorn]

Like its literally just a fake stat

[olive hearth]

yes but i mean the equipment gain ratio is good

[indigo elk]

Why?

[olive hearth]

especially for finishing pockets

[warped flint]

You dont need that

[tulip thorn]

its maintenance company

[olive hearth]

yes i meant that

or put signals

[tulip thorn]

Equipment gain ratio is so niche its not even worth

[warped flint]

Yeah its just mid

[olive hearth]

wdym?

[quasi shoal]

No

[olive hearth]

If you do big encirclements as germans

[warped flint]

and if you got tanks you probably got the industry to build some guns 🙏

[olive hearth]

you can get some equipment out of it

[tulip thorn]

Its literally a niche little mechanic that few use because its fairly pointless

[olive hearth]

hahahah

[tulip thorn]

It has a few uses ill give it that

[olive hearth]

yeah ok i guess

but still i dont think field hospitals belong on tanks

barely use them anyways

[tulip thorn]

and signal company is more of a defense thing

[tulip thorn]

HP bonus

Literally HP bonus

[warped flint]

?

[tulip thorn]

HP is everything

[olive hearth]

played bice as germany finishing the soviets in 1941 and i didnt uste them

[tulip thorn]

Bice 💔 💔 💔 🥀 🥀 🥀

[olive hearth]

Hahaha

[tulip thorn]

Darkest hour was better

[olive hearth]

yeah ok well its different mechanics still

[indigo elk]

Should I rush tip of the spear and mountain doctrine

[quasi shoal]

Bice prolly nerfs field hospitals ✌️

[olive hearth]

kind of

but that one was way too easy

[tulip thorn]

Bice nerfs fun

[olive hearth]

wouldnt play it again

[warped flint]

I hated darkest hour the first time I played it

its cool now

[olive hearth]

but playing it once was fun

like darkest hour

[tulip thorn]

I did aswell

I actually really like it

I also like how they did gdp mechanic

[olive hearth]

hahhahah i think it can be fun if you know what you are doing

[tulip thorn]

Bice, TNO, Md all nerf fun

[olive hearth]

sad that they dont add new content

[tulip thorn]

Unless your a nerd nerd

[olive hearth]

whats md

[tulip thorn]

Who want hoi4 to be super realistic

[quasi shoal]

Hoi4 nerfs fun

[olive hearth]

hahahah true

[tulip thorn]

Millennium dawn

[olive hearth]

also very true

[tulip thorn]

Worst total overhaul mod

[olive hearth]

ah ok never tried

[warped flint]

The thing I hate about darkest hour is I tryed to play the soviet union and I literally had no civillion factories

[olive hearth]

yeah i also tought that

[warped flint]

stopped playing 35 or 36 because of that

[quasi shoal]

Nothing ever happens simulator

[warped flint]

still had none by then

[tulip thorn]

Put tno and cold war iron curtain up there

[warped flint]

Dont you dare say anythng bad about TNO

Wait

TNO reqiuem ?

[tulip thorn]

The 3 horsemen of nothing ever happens

The new order
Millennium dawn
Cold war iron curtain

[tulip thorn]

What is that

A sub mod that does more stuff than base tno

[warped flint]

Its like

TNO but amazing

Russia has more content

uh

[tulip thorn]

Base TNO looks content packed on paper

[warped flint]

all I play is russia

[tulip thorn]

But has nothing

Like maybe a few nations do something

But thats like at most 10

Thank you america

[lethal linden]

Cook tank

[warped flint]

I sorta wanna do historical divisions

[lethal linden]

It was none of our business to begin with

[tulip thorn]

What

[quasi shoal]

Gateway into hating yourself

[warped flint]

I cant since idk where to find how they looked

[quasi shoal]

Wikipedia idfk

[tulip thorn]

💀

You'd be better off just battleplanning with infantry

[quasi shoal]

Not even that bad against ai

Esp now since manpower is kinda easy to get

[tulip thorn]

If you want to just use 18w infantry

You need like air cover to just battleplan

Thats it

Air and infantry wins

[quasi shoal]

I've battleplanned the soviets with no air and only infantry

You dont even need air cuz the ai is just so shit

[tulip thorn]

I've never had infantry just battleplan easily like that

[tulip thorn]

This is the historical german division for panzers in 1944 (according to someone on steam) Its so bad