#hoi4-general
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so coal increases factories? whats the difference wih the naval dominance compared to supremacy?
Iirc naval dominance builds up over time and decreases over time.
NEVERMIND ITS 5 AM
I've spent the past 6 hours on hoi4, with a crash an hour ago
it's cuz the rest of them suck ass
actually breakthrough isn't too bad
but defense is like 300
-# and combat width is 50
Better do flank attacks lol
Maybe fit 2 for an attack
im pretty sure I can make it do more soft attack
but I haven't researched everything yet
Yeah. TNO Reqium is it's own thing
if it somehow loses a fight I think it just vanishes
So you cannot have both TNO main and TNO Requiem in the same playlist
oh shit
I think I need a flame tank
the US still exists its not over yet
damn
this is me at 1947
peru is the only one not in my faction cuz I kicked them out to invade them
huh, right as i capitulate know what the german ai does?
just don't capitulate πΌ
thats what im trying to do but they wont go to war with the ussr if i dont
Im never gonna live down the fact that they didnt add a democratic russia path
there's actually no way the ai with fleets is this dumb
come on Britain
wait they have no ships anywhere around the island
huh
I think we can all agree we would all prefer a democratic russia tree over a fascist one
If u say u wouldnt then ur js lying idk what to tell u
I mean technically...
erm...
Blocked
where is that from?
Who even plays the fascist russia path
a lot of people
i'd rather play fascist russia than democratic π π
Yh ur just lying now
Third rome π€€
dude vichy france is just taking over all of ireland what the heck
dumbass ai could win the war rn
quickest hoi4 session
Just wondering, what's the difference between a democratic and monarchist path for Russia
Triple Entente is monarchist
kill the soviets
the difference is you get more nerfs
Democratic trees usually get the most research slots
they also get big tension limits tho so they can't declare war easily early game
I hardly ever use the justify wargoal button
So this really doesn't apply to me
I do but only in a handful of cases
most commonly just taking the netherlands early as germany
I never saw the need in this as Germany gets insane refinery bonuses and in the past it used to kill your MEFO bills. Now it is more viable since it becomes economy of conquest
Doesnt your rubber get convoy raided when the war starts anyways?
but not when the war has not started
and it's still a ton of rubber, so even if it gets convoy raided you still get a good chunk of it
it just eliminates the need to build refineries early game
or really at any point if you play your cards right
https://i.gyazo.com/0363194dc4a2a3e11e2e5bc7d5fc7402.png
Pain. All the Belgians feel, is pain.
I made the number bigger but also it has -110% attack in forests so it might need some reshuffling
https://i.gyazo.com/1a8ce56da0a30fbe13bbdcf506010e10.jpg
Defending Belgium is hard.
wtf is gyazo
i have 200 hrs pn this and never capped the allies cuz i rageqyit after failing at the navy. if i trynot to will i cap rhem,?
why
You could just use windows snip tool or the built in steam one
I hate how the ai goes unhistorical when I do
Windows key+Shift+S
or print screen
the uk went communist and poland gave the east to the soviet union
That aswell
default germany navy is usually good enough to sealion isn't it
bro the whole world is going communist
I forget about print screen because I dont use it
That requires effort, because then it'd save it to my computer, and then I'd click and drag, and I'd rather just hit a button and isntantly have a link.
And because most of the keyboards i've had didnt have it
Windows snip tool puts the screenshot in your clipboard instantly
Its just an instant paste
Point is I can't defend Belgium.
Keep trying, its bound to work eventually
Defending Finland was so much easier.
Finland has the craziest army buffs
Ofc its way easier
Especially if you go fascist
build a ton of sp artillery trust
With what industry? O_O
I got a 1-10 k/d ratio as germany against the us with basically only sp art pushing
really only sp art
any good templates for making Bulgaria great ?
Literally any good mechanized and infantry template
And if your feeling real fancy air
actually it's you're π€
no
I could care less about grammer when im online
he obv meant you in possesion of fancy
I know it's yemen but come on
like im going to be real
150 deaths on my side π
its not your war, its our war
what
Lol
guys german lithuania rejects my protection
they rejected
OUR, discord server
Peak hoi4 code
I rejected their rejection
Well I reject your rejection to their rejection
I reject your rejection to my rejection of their rejection
I would reply back again adding more to this, but im way to lazy
Im glad you said this since im to lazy to
Propaganda for everyone
Ill go with hoi4
Everyone but albania and norway accepted
Im so lazy I wont even finish this sente
hahaha im so funny
laugh
im
lmao
I love liberating countrys peacefully through civil wars then taking some of it
They get none of mine tho
Thats a lot of spgs
You need more
im talking 50000k
Maybe even get a full army of 120 of nothing but spg units
big number :steamhappy:
I remember I did that with tanks
As germany
I was so lazy force deployed those naval invaded china with them and killed them
this thing still has beefy soft attack π
I was generous enough to let them dream of having supplys
I have 2 full army groups of just sp artillery
This with planning bonus is about to go crazy
look at that avg reliability π
this thing just blows up the minute it goes outside
its not that bad
just stay away from low supply areas
reliability is a fake stat
it's 41.8% cuz of the support companies
it's like less than 30 on the actual tanks I think
Yeah thats fine
Most of my tanks have 30-40%
Its a fake stat anyway
organization π
cuh
I don't understand how to make a good tank battalion
soft attack
and how to do micro attacks
check pins
wdym
defense (this one is boring cuz it's just mech)
All of the tank divs u have shown can be so much better
Like so so so so so so so sos os os sos sos so much better
when I tried to make Bulgaria great again for 58 attempts after 50 attempts I slowly started to understand that artillery is pretty buffed in the Bulgarian army and actually is getting better when you put artillery in your army
it's cuz I don't have everything researched
but how much better
Which artillery tech do u have
all of them
I meant not everything as in most support equipments are lacking
yeah but they don't provide that much bonuses
these are the raw stats
in the division designer
ok im just asking cause ill make a tank using all the tech u have
not supposed to be practical
u have every radio tech?
ok 1 min
radio doesn't provide the stats im trying to get in most of these
ik
u dont need radios in ur MBT
do u want me to use bias doctrines that would make no sense in a game cause u have nothing for infantry and just pure tank doctrines
to get the most stats for tanks possible
wdym make no sense in a game
getting maxed doctrines is easy
no im saying like if u have all of ur doctrines for tanks then u wouldnt have any good defenses
unless u use mech for defense
nvm
you can't have all for tanks
whats the germany meta now?
just get them encircled
im almost done making the div
its kind of ridiculous but possible
Probably a way to make it better but idc
Ignore the hp
you know I wasn't going for geniune usefulness
I was going for the biggest numbers for their respective stats
I know how to make good divisions
I mean my soft attack is higher than urs and its only 36 width
Which country and mio are u using
was using worse ones when I took the screen shot
what meta do we use for germany heavy tanks medium or light?
medium for singleplayer, heavy for multiplayer
oh I didn't try heavy
im still configing those
there
I wanna go heavy just to fk the ai in the ass
a lot more sense actually
but you won't be able to make many
like a hell of a lot more sense actually
what about conversion strat?
honestly the game gets to a point where u will have too many tanks so why not spend more ic and get fewer tanks at better quality
as germany you can get like 16 good heavy tank divs
by ww2
fully trained
and you dont rlly need more than that
if u do conversion
aight
but can they
yes easily
also updated with heavy ones
cuz I also need division templates and what to do
read pins
is this the heavy division template?
haha these are better
hell no
those suck im just making them cuz big number
cause ur mio is superior βοΈ
Wait this could be fun battle.... Communist britain and soviet union vs communist france and communist germany
no it's cuz I get slightly more soft attack
no its cause ur mio is better
im using a bad one too lol
the only difference between ours is that u have advanced heavy tanks and i have basic which changes absolutely nothing to the soft attack
whats ur soft attack %
they barely lose to yours with no soft attack on the MIO
Guys I think italy is winning
yeah cause its superior
mine is 18% and stuck at 18%
cause evrything is picked
I barely lost to yours with no soft attack percentage
when I used 18% is when I got that ss
it's cuz the support guns I used give an extra 1 soft attack per
how come
oh
nvm
these
im stupid
with the new MIO
small cannon in sp might be the biggest waste of ic in the game barely above armored cars
wtf
u must have bonuses for spg cause i can only get 144 with small cannons
why did italy get half their couintry back
what doctrines
how much does he give
15% lol
rommel?
lemme check without it
with an 18% soft attack MIO
get advanced panzer research
its only bonuses for combat i jst checked
I got it before I even made any tanks
good
thats prolyl why then lol
ahh
okay
i see where mine and urs fluctuate
u have expeditionary warfare
and i have deep battle
yh thats why
should I switch from tanks to sp or nah?
feeeeeels goood
I just did world conquest with only infantry and sp art so why not
i'm still 7 ahead
with the 18% MIO
aight cuz whats the best way to max out medium tank production?
build them idfk
u obviously have a bonus because all of ur thiungs are exactly the same apart from small flcutuations in values
like fluctuations of 1
I dont got the dlc
oh well
eh ima buy it tmr during the steam sale
germany goes communist, it can take England and Franceβs cores
your MIO isn't 18%
no step back?
then I don't think you get sp artillery iirc
nah I got it
then what are you missing
i meant the arms against tryanny
that doesn't matter
and most 3
just take what I did but you don't choose an MIO
like the newest germany dlc and viva le ressistance
that doesn't matter
yeah gng this is the greatest thing I've ever seen fr
i think u can increase soft attack tho
the super heavy artillery sub doctrine gives +10% soft to all units iirc
I LOVE FREE NAVIES!!!!!!!!!!
since when was he a leader for demcoracy
first encirclement
huh
You can pick him, fdr or some other guy
I cant remember
I did it in my last usa game
it doesn't matter cuz soft attack is high
the org doesn't matter cuz the divisions just win
Every time you fight a battle, win or lose, you lose half of your division
just stock up
they d ont even border
do i not get any benifits from my puppet if im democratic? is it better to just annex them straight up
Lithuania makes most sense
Yeah like Lithuania-Belarus was an actual idea and the two countries have close historical and cultural ties
The soviets have made a grave mistake... my puppets divisions come in usefull now!
Wait what, Austronesian China? What nation do you play
philippines then masters of pacific national focus
OOOH
You like Philipine?
i did buy this game just for it yeah lmao
Ooh, you should try other paths too
The navy one for sure
No army, just navy, I did it last time it works as usual 
prob after i take a break, this save was just bugged for me a while ago, did other nations for a bit then for some reason its fine again
You took Manchukuo? You won the war already?
yeah i pretty much have all of east asia
By army or navy?
wdym?
Back when I used the army only where I put no navy (first time I played it) I'm basically landlocked and can't do anything except defending the mainland
But luckily I raised around 50 divs around 1940 with 10 divs on the way, the subsides are really broken when your ally is the USA 
how the map looks like right now, im currently beefing up my army more since recent peace deal injected a shitton of ships to my navy
Hm? What happened to China?
instead of going east they decided to go north
Actually idk how but china can actually lose in 1942
pretty much all of the warring states are there
In late 1941 too if I remember correctly
they allied with japan in this run i think
If Guandong+ Guangxi fell in 1941, just hope China ain't falling a second later
i cant tell if its my cat or not
Then it disappeared after making a mess with the laundry
I looked at that ghost from the back while she was making a mess out of it
wait i think its my fat sister making hot coco
bruh
made me have a panic attack for that
I lost track of her when I tried to look away, looking for my father
That's the first time I saw a ghost
this gonna be lot of waiting especally after i absorb china and manchuria
interesting
And I'd rather not go through lists of ghosts I've encountered when I was a child
Well lets see if a murdere goes up the stairs or my fat sister
You US people call it skin walker or something, but in my place there are bad spirits that can turn into anything, like a rabid dog for example...
Yeah Skinwalker it is
Chased by rabid dog at 1 a.m (after I rent a PS3 from someone, and walk back to my grandma's place)
Turns out it's a bad spirit
I really hate ghosts and bad spirits, they're scary and shocked me, sure... But those adrenaline are pumping when they disappeared darn it
all france had to do was not die
Did you have the full collab on china
yeah
If so, you only get the 100% compliance on the places that china owned
Not where they had cores
but i owned manchuria and got the compliance there lma o
Weird
i could release the collab government hten annex but nahh
speaking of Manchuria im currently playing Qing China as usual to take th enorthern area and unlike China with massive debuff on industry i able to build a fairly functioning one
theres one horse boi coming to Stalingrad
This looks so cursed imo
They should make a movie about him
And yeah, Manchukuo didn't come with tons of debuff like China
btw since japan going agrarian communist i get some generals
unfortunately i didnt get thier navies
since i purged the kwantung
the historical path is so much worse than this lool
i wanted the empress but π forgot how
Who this white boy?
Nvm
Prince Chichibu
well since i won i get the entire spanish fleets
gonna renamed them to make at least Sinification
I wonder how much easier the new subdoctrine "Defensive infantry" will make withstanding 1941 as the soviets
ok thanks, so how do we naval invade now?
Yes
I am going to do bhutan world conquest now
Do as Goldship say "Go to sleep"
Hello
Who thinks I can do this
Yo chat I've been fascinating with naval work rn.. is support ships actually good
It can help your fleets though
Just slap subs
And you good
Support ship takes time
And by time you're already conquering things
Building surface ships are somewhat my ADHD feeding
Holy crap the games so smooth
Then naval invade someone
oh yeah thats easy, the whole supremacy part with the navy had me stuck earlier
how does a division this small have that much soft attack lool
i guess doctrines really do add up
Gun tech probably
and doctrines
lol~
prolly the support art
Does your infantry have like 3 hp per div
Facts
the first 70 days on non historical decide the way the game plays out
bruh im not even close to winning
Why u have every dlc @frail bolt
2 width heavy tank
This is cursed
hoi4 gotta make battle plans more efficent
lmao what
historical is on
just win
I've got to say, italy really locked in
the only thing I helped them with was taking egypt
that's like the main challenge for africa
Yeah
I've had other games where I take egypt for them
and they lose it a few months later
because they dont put units there
So then I have to send some infantry to hold for them
Havent had to do that
I should maybe lend lease
Maybe
are all of your 495 factories civvies or smth?
I think you have too many divisions
whyd this game give me 3 cv generals in a row π
idk
your italy is evil I think
They locked in or something
evil italy
Goat italy
Im still going to invade them when the war is over
There is nothing they can do about it >:)
whats yall favorite mod?
Kaiserredux
Equestria at war
Kaiserreich
What templates do u recommend for Barbarossa ?
should i
i love sinking ships!!!
only if you have the convoy to back it up
5 task force can easily eat up 500+ when i tried it for a bit
what if 700 ship?
try it task force by task force and not the whole fleet at once
hi guys i need help
amazing
wdym
iβm non-aligned
iβm canβt make any decisions
i wanna be fascist
well about that...
???
if you dont see a decision or focus you might not be able to
bruh
despite party popularity
i tooo so long taking over spain omg
they're outdated af
wdym
the civil war mechanic and their focus tree is really old now
paradox locking you into a single party and path for the rest of the game is also kinda dumb
bruh
i feel like i should freely choose
or at least kick me out if its 100%
cause wth
mods keep the game afloat
it was such a piss take
i was fighting 4 wars at once
ππ
Any good division designs?
guys
anyone got some good fun mods
that have content for most of the nations
so I don't play Afghanistan in TGWR and cry b/c there is no content
Kaiseredux
What are some good division designs?
Well heres a good tank
basic infantry number 1
Basic infantry number 2, normally 18 width
if you have the newest doctrine you should use SPGs instead of tanks
I know
was just lazy
I can respect that
Isnt it good to have it 20 width?
Hasn't been since 2021
Also rip to 36 width infantry
Also how are tank destroyers?
15w is way more modular but has less HP
18w is good enough for average use
May 36w rest in piece
useless in singleplayer
essential in multiplayer
Heavy tds my beloved
How about artillary
Not worth it unless support
Even though in mp I normally play nations that do infantry
yo im completely new, how many civilian facotries should i build
italy
Just steal them from yugo
You could get away with building mills day 1
alr thx
Build mills and steal civs
it's better than it used to be but not optimal
you can create good battleplan divs with it with the new doctrines though, pick the infantry combat width/assault infantry as first doctrine, arty doc in the second and major offensive as 4th
After 105h of playtime in hoi4, i have finnally managed to capitulate france :D
Congrats
Military factories
thankies :3
Mills are military factories, civs are civilian factories
ok thanks
Are there any good light panzer division designs?
early war I'm guessing ? so no doctrine and budget build ?
Light tanks (except recon) become obsolete as soon as you get the medium chassis 1938 so by late 1937 there's no point building them except for funny speed
wtf what happened
I've used light tanks a total of 3 times
i've been running 36 width infantry
Is it better not to make light tanks?
yes
geniunely why are they not good anymore tho
I could have sworn that they changed the width to a point where you cant get 36w
except if you're going for extremely tight budget build to grind xp/traits or do 1936 war, no
and even in those cases, they're often not required (except for grinds)
Since mass mob doesnt exist anymore
there's still smth to lower infantry width
but they nerfed it so that now it's one less batallion if you want under 36 width
there is still a variant, but it's more CAS-based than inf-based now
CASfighters are mega broken, even more than before somehow
they nerfed them in the latest patch iirc
they did ? didn't see it
I havent really played much since the new dlc btw
good thing if they did
didn't nerf CASFighters though :(
does that not nerf both
gonna check smth real quick
no, CASfighters are fighters with 1 CAS weapon that logistike
they then abuse the mission efficiency for CAS to have incredible fighter stats and blow out to smitherine any fighter trying to intercept
I actually did not know this
ohhh
they still nerfed cas so doing that isn't as useful anymore tho
cuz like fighting isn't that good if cas isn't that good
they're countered by armored trains usually but since few people actually find out beforehand, they get blown to smitherine before
(it's still busted as hell tho)
you don't do it for the cas or logistrike stats, you do it for the modifiers to mission effi
I mean like if they make it so cas is nerfed
then blowing up their fighters doesn't mean as much
yk
80% mission efficiency (70% displayed + the 10% effi for all mission types)
does the ai do interceptions often tho
average soviet encirclement
they always try
but no need for this against AI, just use regular fighters
God I love that I still have this
Greatest mp game I ever played
that was what was left of it
that was in mp??!?!?!
Yes
cant remember too many details anymore
That was awhile ago
El salvador is just losing men to the shadow relm
El Salvador is fighting demons
hw to fix this cuh
Nuke it twin βοΈ
tfym cuh
don't assign this port as your big ass fleet's home base
π₯
how
assign each of them to another port
CTRL+Rclick
Can't you make new naval base
ok
And move them over to somewhere else
no,it at max
yea
Max naval base at every coastal?
Is there no nearby coastal that you can use to make new naval base
us but communist
do i need tanks to take on germany???
yuh
oof
exercise ur units
fun fact: Kim Il Sung was a partisan in Manchuko
And one of the South Korean prime ministers was an officer in the army of Manchuko
sending attaches gives xp
They were fighting each other before the cold war without realizing it

Any of you guys know rise of nations? Itβs just a temu version of this game i think
it's a genre
they are both RTS games
(real time strategy)
they are similar, but because one is a roblox game it appears lower quality
i mean like they have the exact same mechanics
not really
Idk that one
But I do know a game that's been bugging me for century now (I'm an unc)
Roblox π€’
Rise of Kingdom of whatever
Red alert 2?
Goated game
ron is goated
no
roblox kinda sucks
it's holding back the devs that work on it
Iβm not playing it due to the recent roblox drama
ofc that's cuz it's free
what drama
Try Natural disaster
I'm not playing it cuz the games on it are naturally bad
Pdf drama
I have
Goated game
The Roblox CEO said some pro PDF stuff
I still remember the zombies on the railroad idk the name
In a interview on the news no less
I love playing with my sister, I kinda... In a dorm far away from home
And Roblox is the only game I could play with her 
It is true that the drama isn't exaggerated
Some people in my country used it for something horrendous
i think its based on HOI
It might take inspiration since the hoi franchise is a very popular rts series
Popular
Because WoC IV is better suited for phone
Idk what that is
Roblox isn't exclusive to phone
World of Conquer
Yeah I know
Most of them kids are ipad kids in my mind
Rusted warfare is better even though i still dk what it is π
Ipad kids don't play rts games
Might as well teach them that nuking people is good when you're bored
Fair point
P2W rts... The IV series is the most P2W
The III one is peak imo
Rusted warfare wipes
Idk what that is but I must agree
And it's cheap asl on phone and pretty cheap on pc
Niche rts game with amazing modding community
horror
CoH also exists for Android
What in the gacha rarity
gimme large airframe template plz
Big boom
gold
like full large bombay?
I use 2
Gonna maintain the speed, you don't want it to be all heavy
is this work chat
Or just click the gear icon imo
The blue gear one below
Right next to reset
That should give you more ideas
@gaunt pawn which
Is that fuel extension?
Left, kill Chiang
can't
Ahh
it crashes the game if I open anything other than steam and the game
Whatever path that kills Chiang is good
Oh okay, it's fine
their convoy should really learn by now


is modern tank chassis better than heavy td
Nah
I think it has that stats of a medium
does basic guided missile can be intercepted
dawg
Yeah u need to do it on the blank template
Then it will make your old one obsolete, then just unobsolete it
no
don't modify an existing hull if you want 2 different ones
No what
just click it when you start designing and itll be fine
it doesnt need to be on an empty hull
yeah it just obsoletes them
What's to be the problem here
ships in the field dont magically change
ik this
You can save and load
Instead of erasing it completely yk
So in the future you can keep using it
I don't see any problem in the picture, except for the person who said that it can't be saved
Whose side are you on? The Japanese or US?
i took the us path, the japs are gone. Thbe current war is between commie britain and the democrats
I usually go claim on Oceania and Japan when playing as allies
How did you get DEI?
I thought you need to control it
they allied with britain then i invaded them
Ooh this is non historical ai
ye
I was so confused at first lmao
I thought you went on SEA path
Forming the SEA and then Maphilindo
i cant save the ship as a new design
Have you tried to use the latest armaments available?
By simply pressing the green arrow button
Basil II died 1000 years ago to the day on this day
yes but its not the point
i want to make a spotting ship
from my maun ship
but it ovverides
you don't need to do achievements
I have 3100 hours and only did half of them a year ago in a month
man i only sent 2k π₯
hi
i tested CAS build + plain infantry. It was good as germany against the invasion of poland and france. But as the USSR it did not perform very well against german ai
damn
Did you hold the Stalin line or your borders
my borders
It's suggested to hold the Stalin line while you get rid of army debuffs
okay
but if i do line art, i can just counter-attack germany right away
even with army debuffs
The Germans start eating rocks when they step into the marshes
If I wanted to counter attack as the Soviets, I'd be doing tanks instead
fair
around how many infantry divisions vs tank divisions do you have at the start of barb as ussr?
If I'm doing anti air Soviets, Usually a general army of tanks
how many can you afford to make??
If I cheese it and leave my entire inf army with guns 1, I can spit out 24 divs of 32w tank divisions
Inf leaves to defend and to finish encirclements only
They do nothing else
And usually my army is atleast 1 field marshal stack plus a few fallback line armies for reinforcements
I mean if u sweat rlly hard u can get like 40 or so heavy tanks by then
With like another few hundred infantry
how big is your inf army? 120?
Around 200-250
Majority are just with shovels and support anti air
I usually have my special forces cap filled out for mountaineers who just follows my tanks to cover encirclements
They get logi companies, rangers and support arty as extra
I implied at designs
My friend does heavies too but he sticks with interwars cause they cheaper
And he does a weird fort buster counterattack build with them
Builds lvl 1 forts across his border and clicks them
goofy ahh
Is there anyone relatively normal or even beginner at this game whoβd want to do vanilla RP?
Nobody is normal in hoi4
can you imagine how wack hoi5 is gonna be
it's gonna have like a tenth of the features lol
get back to school
get back to farm 
its cold
Add dlc "Submit to rome" which would grand Vatican crusade focus tree and allow to make knight orders like templars, Teutons etc
best hoi4 mod to play rhodesia
Does this apply to mech/mot inf?
have you ever heard of hp
you know, something that 18 inf has 80% more of compared to 10 inf 5 art
why arent my ships doing anything? I dont get the new naval system
they're just staying in 1 place
Did you know that you can form People's Republic of China as Manchuria?
i miss the old navy ;-;
Dawg look at communist taiwan's name
set their home base to be a nearby port. currently they have no range
how do i set a home base
i just sent them to a port
oh
putting it on automatic worked
1.5 bolsheviks on top
click this, then ctrl right click a port