hoi4-general

[feral hedge]

Guys if I unsubscribe to a mod on the steam workshop do I keep my saves with that mod?

I'm guessing that I will but just to be sure

[frosty solstice]

you keep the saves but it gets buggy unless you resubscribe to the mod

[feral hedge]

Thanks a lot

[runic wraith]

and how do i get the radar attachment for ships?

i hate the paradox devs for making mtg free and integrated

[wicked haven]

France is so terrible wow

5 70d focuses for a research slot, 2 factories and 5% stability

[runic wraith]

like ik about good templates ik about supply and all that

but still

i loose to franc

my tanks just seem to not do anything

[frosty solstice]

can i send a link here?

to youtube

its a nice video tutorial for germany

you can micro and cap benelux and france in like 14 days

poland in like 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbpWbSD6hEY&t=4594s&pp=ygUYaG93IHRvIHBsYXkgZ2VybWFueSBob2k0

this video literally taught me so much about this game lol

[runic wraith]

i heard about it in a reddit thread

but didnt watch it

[frosty solstice]

same lol

i mean i watched it

but i heard about it on reddit too

[runic wraith]

lol

gonna watch part of it tomorow

and finish after tomorow

and then gonna try cap the alliess

and nuke US

[frosty solstice]

you have to play while watching

thats how i did at least

that way you dont forget anything

[runic wraith]

ok

well gonna try

and if i dont succed im gonna download some simple strategy game that takes 2 secs to learn and do smth in there

[frosty solstice]

lol

[runic wraith]

i have downloaded one... and ive been stuck in there for 1 year so im now trying to get to know hoi

[worn hollow]

how do i annex puppets? (im austria

[azure palm]

What do you all think of my great partition of Iraq wich definitly wouldnt create any real life problems between people and nations?

[runic wraith]

def not

[azure palm]

And how does this partition of France look? Its compleatly fair, right?

[safe wing]

Manchuria strategy?

[frosty solstice]

europe lead by kaiser

nice

damn

[wraith mauve]

That path is broken

Anyone play Great War redux

[safe wing]

Hence why I don’t do it

[solid dirge]

sometimes

[solid dirge]

its not fair to you that germany stole alsace

[desert echo]

Nope you don't get that

And if you press the one below where you want to keep pushing...

You need to go to Italy

[lilac glen]

US declared war on me in 1941 as Germany

What do I do?

It's my first time getting this far lol

[vague abyss]

u should be playing as a minor nation

try spain

or romania to learn

[safe wing]

Manchuko time

[vague abyss]

hungary is also good

[safe wing]

for me

[lilac glen]

Hell nah

I got this far already

I am winning WW2 one way or another

Poland and France are gone

Most of Europe is gone

[frosty solstice]

spain is good for learning micro

romania is good for learning the basics of the game

[cosmic jay]

yo why I got SpongeBob as general

[vague abyss]

oh boy

[vague abyss]

yep

and then when ur ready to learn full trees etc hungary

[lilac glen]

How to not get my ass kicked by the US?

[frosty solstice]

yeah hungary with dlc has a very nice focus tree

[lilac glen]

That's all I wanna know?

[vague abyss]

yep

good to learn

[lilac glen]

Put guys in France to prevent D day?

[frosty solstice]

you cant really stop them unless you got a ton of infantry

[frosty solstice]

yeah

a lot of guys

[vague abyss]

WHO TF IS THIS

https://tenor.com/view/speed-kahoot-giga-gif-12430097431821085258

who the hells horthy junior

[lilac glen]

3 full armies of defense infantry, one army of tanks

[vague abyss]

Also a word of advice, use your low level admirals on HQ's to level up the ones you want while exercising

[safe wing]

its Horthys son

[vague abyss]

im aware but didn't know there was a son path

[safe wing]

there has been since GDR

[lilac glen]

I probably should invade the UK and get their navy soon...

[vague abyss]

if u are scared of USA goodluck with navy

[frosty solstice]

usa is easy to beat if you can either nuke the heck out of them or invade canada

[vague abyss]

nukes do nothing

[frosty solstice]

thermo nukes do

normal nukes are useless

actually they do destroy the anti air

so if you want to invade britain you can nuke them to disable their anti air

[lilac glen]

I don't want to invade them right now

I want to defend from them

My Europe is a bit of a mess

[azure palm]

yeah, they were greedy

[lilac glen]

Hungary got huge idk why

Some random ass event fired and they started taking a huge chunk of my territory in a war I wasn't part of

HOI shenanigans

[vague abyss]

pew

[wraith mauve]

How do I get more seats in the reichstag in Great War redux

[vague abyss]

get them on amazon

[solar tundra]

There is now croatian controlled turkey, indian turkey, American turkey, french turkey, Ukrainian turkey, and chinese turkey

[silk gust]

Dear god

[vague abyss]

theres ur problem

ur going in after 37

if u go in after jan 38 ur gonna find it hard

[silk gust]

Ok thanks

[vague abyss]

china has no equopment early

go by mid 37

[silk gust]

Ah ok

[vague abyss]

preferably by june 37

that seems to be the sweetspot

[frosty solstice]

should i go for england before or after the imperial conference?

[vague abyss]

yea

[frosty solstice]

wdym yea

[strong umbra]

be mesmerized

by the big white blob

paradox why?

why did you make an option for Italy to rename ulaan bataar to urga

and why does it give me 5 percent stability

why?

paradox

in what world does this make sense?

[frosty solstice]

DAMNNN

[vague abyss]

rip

[analog aspen]

With the new DLC, is it possible to form NATO in vanilla? Because it's possible to form the Warsaw Pact, logically it would be possible to found NATO

[sudden grotto]

i think it was already an option

before the dlc

after ww2 as a democracy faction leader you unlock "form NATO" or sum

and your faction disssolves

and the other members choose if be neutral or join your faction

kinda useless but good for rp

[sudden grotto]

me trying new japan 💔

[royal marten]

What year

[sudden grotto]

just sstarted '38

gg

[royal marten]

gg

[sudden thistle]

this is easy bro

[sudden thistle]

rip

[ancient marsh]

totally blunted japanese momentum

[worthy rover]

I just started playing and when I watch videos people have built 100s of civs by 1939 how do I do this

[ancient marsh]

depends on tag

what were they playing as

[worthy rover]

Britain I believe

[ancient marsh]

were they fascist

[worthy rover]

But it just seems to be that all the good players can do this with most big countries

[ancient marsh]

having hundreds of civs as most countries is not necessarily a good thing

[worthy rover]

Just united kingdom

[ancient marsh]

having civs is good but mils are more valuable

[worthy rover]

He had lots of those too

[ancient marsh]

send the video

[worthy rover]

Dms

[ancient marsh]

@worthy rover thats modded mp

notice how he starts with like 163 factories

[worthy rover]

Didnt realise thanks

Any tips for building a good industry unmodded though?

[ancient marsh]

realistically you only need/should have like

[worthy rover]

Playing france rn

[craggy trail]

[ancient marsh]

just civs/infra till early 38 then

[craggy trail]

Testing out some new ship models

[ancient marsh]

probably not infra

you start with 80% in a lot of places

you can make the flip from making civs to infra anytime after 36 for most countries and its probably fine

[worthy rover]

Ok

[ancient marsh]

only exceptions would be countries where you're better off not even building civs

ger, aus, fin, usa (for usa just build facilities and infra till great dep is gone)

[worthy rover]

Ah i see

[ancient marsh]

its not like you're gonna suffer if you do civ greed in most cases

but mils are infinitely more valuable than civs

[worthy rover]

Ok

Any tips for war with germany as francr

[ancient marsh]

red is harder orange is fallback

[viscid swift]

guys why is the gotterdammerung menu screen so fire

[ancient marsh]

you can also make forts and stronghold networks on susceptible provinces

dont forget about your colonies and italy border btw

[worthy rover]

I hate the damn colonies tbh

[ancient marsh]

if you want you can just release them all as puppets at gamestart

[worthy rover]

Wanted to play france, do NOT want to manage colonies

But I still lowk need the benfits

[ancient marsh]

its very good but

it nukes your pc

each of them have focuses which give them factories which you then get

arguably meta

[worthy rover]

Ye I think Im doing that

The upgrade such and such colony or whatever

[strong umbra]

whats yalls opinion about french army path which is the best?

[worthy rover]

Then after them its the one that gives factories to all the ones you invested in

[ancient marsh]

aggressive -> air

because air is the best thing in the game

[strong umbra]

cas Is king

cant deny that

what abt forts

[ancient marsh]

you can still make forts but if you want fort path then methodical battle

[strong umbra]

I did that for vive la france

but like is it good?

[ancient marsh]

if you know what your doing you shouldnt need forts

otherwise why not theyre good

you can even research stronghold networks and make some of those

germany can get so scared they dont even declare

[strong umbra]

dayum

actually happened once

[icy crescent]

Gotta make money somehow.

[strong umbra]

is attaturk best leader?

stat wise

or is it someone else?

[icy crescent]

Big wall of green text is nice.
He is for sure in the Top 5.

[strong umbra]

ik the Portuguese guys give weekly stab

but is weekly stab that good?

[icy crescent]

That's the Spirit and not the Leader, if I am not mistaken.

[strong umbra]

Orleans also gives weakly stab

[strong umbra]

no its the leafer

the spirits offset that

[icy crescent]

It appears I am mistaken then.

[strong umbra]

leader .50 stab plus

spirit -.50 stab

to balance it out

once u remove the spirit u can get stab

but Orleans path in France feels lile the only way to consistently get 100 stab on france

[icy crescent]

It's the only thing France has with the Leader.
Stability. While important, it's only that.

[ancient marsh]

and if they do declare

this is what happens

i didnt move a single tile in this screenshot btw

[strong umbra]

ye

[icy crescent]

Can't find the stats of the Leader rn.

[strong umbra]

I think its both

[strong umbra]

me neither

but ai knows it

[ancient marsh]

holy

[icy crescent]

That's the Salazar.
Not the Monarch path.
The kind of Neutrality Path.

[ancient marsh]

insane modifier

[strong umbra]

ah

I meant salazar

nobody does anything except for empire path tho

should've anticipated that

[icy crescent]

I mean, the 5th Empire is cool with the Non-Core Pop.
But it's really difficult to play.

[strong umbra]

im not sure but I think Dom Duarte nuno also gives weekly stab

[icy crescent]

Yeah, he does.

But dunno what other stats.

Don't have HOI4 installed rn.

[strong umbra]

btw dont make the mistake of doing Italy world conquest and doing papacy focus after roman empire

you'll be blinded by the big white blob

[molten pasture]

@strong umbra not very Freeman of you to reduce the Raj's autonomy

[strong umbra]

your a LIAR VICTORIA

u can restore hre

but ur neither holy

roman

or an empire

[icy crescent]

No, no.
His name is Freeman not Freemen.
He is free. The rest is not.

[strong umbra]

Danish santa

second best leader

[molten pasture]

You really repeat a Fr*nch person's words

Pathetic

[strong umbra]

what

[dawn mango]

WHAT does the tfr devs smoke to get these ideas for characters and history

[strong umbra]

I genuinely have no idea what ur talking about

[molten pasture]

That sentence is from a french philosopher

Voltaire iirc

[strong umbra]

ok ig

fool me once shame on you

fool me twice shame on me

foom the thrice shame on Danish santa

[icy crescent]

Installing rn just to check it.

[strong umbra]

fool me thrace shame on mussolini and tito

[icy crescent]

Isn't it thrice?

[strong umbra]

thrace

the tile

in hoi4

in Yugoslavia

[strong umbra]

thrice is said

[icy crescent]

Oh right. Ha.

[strong umbra]

https://youtube.com/@sovietstorieswithyuri?si=6_h6d28VqDSraCV0

rly fun

this guy

[slim nexus]

Loloöollolololl🤣

[wary slate]

haiiii

[wary slate]

this guy keeps popping up on my feed

for a communist he does really have good storys

[icy crescent]

Okay, on current patch it isn't scaling war support, it is 20% instantly.

[safe wing]

Yuri is master

[ancient marsh]

we won

[safe wing]

-Psychic infantry from Red Alert 2 Yuri’s revenge (released 2000)

[safe wing]

What flag is that

[ancient marsh]

new fengtian clique

[safe wing]

As that guy's son right (I forget his name)

[ancient marsh]

xhang xueliang yes

easy

[lilac glen]

I hate Japan

[royal marten]

same

[lilac glen]

I accept them into the Axis and not even 6 months in they drag the US into the war

[strong umbra]

were spreading the propaganda with this one

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/ra2-red-alert2-westwood-udo-kier-nicholas-worth-gif-19587447

[gleaming raven]

guys

i just owned the game

andi i want to play online

and know its community

[neat vine]

are there any meta players here?

[safe wing]

Bad idea

[gleaming raven]

why😂😂

[safe wing]

It's an extremist shouting match mp is

[gleaming raven]

i like that

actually

i do like history and diplo

tho

[vague abyss]

nyooom

[gleaming raven]

italy🤦🤦🤦

[quiet vessel]

italy is so fun to play wdym🤧

[gleaming raven]

idk

[vague abyss]

yea

[gleaming raven]

i dont like

it

tho

[tulip thorn]

Why

[vague abyss]

im doing navy

[gleaming raven]

i do like navy btw

[tulip thorn]

navy italy with air and special forces is peak

[quiet vessel]

italy can like take half of europe by 37 if played well

[gleaming raven]

mmm

maybe

[quiet vessel]

france, UK, greece, yugo, romania, (maybe bulgaria), turkey

[tulip thorn]

Italy is so powerful

[quiet vessel]

with some good timings and strategy

[tulip thorn]

Starts as the weakest major

[gleaming raven]

like?

[ripe slate]

Italy can form Rome in 1937 if youre really lucky

[tulip thorn]

But has a great focus tree and places to expand making you the largest and most powerful major really quick

[quiet vessel]

instantly justifying on france, getting the uk, greece and turkey wargoal asap, paradropping france asap, potentially justifying on bulgaria

after that u only have spain to deal with

and boom roman empire

[vague abyss]

wonder if its possible to now add the pearl harbour raid to other countries or if its hard coded

hmm

[quiet vessel]

from there you can also take USA easily through canada

[gleaming raven]

not that easy

[ripe slate]

Probably isnt

[quiet vessel]

ive done it before😭

by early 38 i was invading us

[tulip thorn]

It is that easy

[gleaming raven]

yeah but its not easy

[tulip thorn]

Its so easy I dont like doing it because it makes the rest of the game boring

[gleaming raven]

i mean in mulitplayer too??

[quiet vessel]

well france is a no brainer

just paradrop

[tulip thorn]

Ofc not in mp lmao

[quiet vessel]

you have a large enough navy to naval invade uk

[gleaming raven]

ofx

[tulip thorn]

Unless your against people who are really bad

[quiet vessel]

from there its a walk in the park cus they all in africa

[vague abyss]

execute order 99

[quiet vessel]

greece is guaranteed by romania

so u get both of them

[ripe slate]

Only 2 lines of code need to be edited

[vague abyss]

but don't you need to define the state ID?

/province

[icy crescent]

The formable got nerfed.
You really gotta deal with UK now.

[quiet vessel]

the UK when it comes to ruining fun playthroughs:

[vague abyss]

So what does it mean if my carrier overcrowding is lower

[candid lion]

my navy isnt going out dispite being in port right next to the sea tile whats happening

like i cant even select the tile

[solemn marlin]

if u have to many carriers in a single fleet they become overcrowed and loose efficiency so that allows u to have more carriers in a fleet before overcrowding become a problem

[icy crescent]

Why is the non-DLC China able to give Autonomy to Mongolia if it doesn't start out as a puppet?

[candid lion]

dude what is this new navy thing theyve done

[vague abyss]

uhh no carrier overcrowding was removed, I meant the plane carrier overcrowding

[candid lion]

anyone know how the new navy works?

[dusky burrow]

send one unit to take Corinth that way you don't have to deal with another bottleneck later

[heavy vigil]

thats been the case since WTT

and warlords can still do it

[digital aurora]

You know what, im gonna make germany go alt history so im not distracted in 1941, and im going to complete the Large fleet program by 1947!

15 SHBB's 16BC's, 2 Carriers, 16 CA's, 32 CL's and 252 destroyes and 442 submarines spread across 4 fleets

[dusky burrow]

that's so many ships

only 2 carriers?

[safe wing]

That's when it was planned to be complete historically

[digital aurora]

Im gonna make germany go communist and ally with me

[digital aurora]

Yes sirrr, i will most likely convert the old cruisers into carriers, but i might make more carriers, as 1 for the northern fleet and 1 for the pacific fleet is very low

[digital aurora]

That’s only really 1.8 SHBB’s 2 BC’s 2 CA’s 4 CL’s 31.5 destroyers and 55.25 submarines a year, and keep in mind I’m producing every type in 4 parallel lines

Also what are some good naval task force templates for the new DLC? I have a guide on steam but that hasn’t been updated to NCNS yet

[dusky burrow]

deathstack still works

[digital aurora]

Like a cruiser death stack or just a metric ton of ships in one task force?

[candid rain]

Just put everything

Navy is still dumb

[icy crescent]

Huh.
Must be something about history or sth.

[candid rain]

If anything they just made it dumber by somewhere making the ai dumber than it was before

[dusky burrow]

kalmyks are related to mongols

They basically fled western mongolia after the qing tried conquering the region

[icy crescent]

Oh right.
The Tatars.

[dusky burrow]

They aren't related to the golden horde actually

so idk why they decided to do this

I guess since both have mongol lineages?

[icy crescent]

Yeah, I guess so.

[dusky burrow]

the actual successors to the golden horde would be like Crimea, Kazan, and Astrakhan, among a few others

[finite plume]

Base game Australia's VPs are so depressing ngl 🥀

[dusky burrow]

You basically have to take all of them

Nightmarish for me because look at all that empty space

[digital aurora]

Hopefully it will be improved with the Thunder at our gates DLC next year

[dusky burrow]

And I was doing it as a volunteer army, so no naval invasions

I could do paratroopers though

[fallen vigil]

guys why cant i find bearer of artillery achievement on this achievement screen? (yes im playing as poland

[icy crescent]

Maybe it has a different name.
Check carefully the requirements.
If you cannot find it, congratulations.
You found a bug.

I'll check myself.
Even tho I should go sleep.

[split bane]

It's a secret achievement
It doesn't show up until you get it

[icy crescent]

That sounds extremely logical.

[digital aurora]

because for some reason the entire middle of Australia is impassible even though it was a pretty large military hub for the Northern Territory (Territory in this case referring to the subdivision)

[fallen vigil]

tyyy sorry for disturbing you 😭

[digital aurora]

Well alice springs was, which is in the middle of australia

[fallen vigil]

oh

deadss

ass

freak

[icy crescent]

Don't be sorry.
YOU ARE AN AWESOME HUMAN.
CHILL.
Blame is on me.

[indigo elk]

What divisions should I use when playing Argentina? Just loads of high width infantry?

[dusky burrow]

That'd get you far

[indigo elk]

I see that flame tanks are mentioned quite a bit, and obviously I want to reduce manpower usage, so is that viable?

[dusky burrow]

You should have more manpower than your enemies

Chile obviously doesn't have much manpower

Brazil has a lot of manpower but they don't make a lot of troops

[wicked haven]

You can use flame mediums and MEV in most offensive divisions

[dusky burrow]

Yeah definitely

[indigo elk]

I meant more for fighting in Europe and US tbh

[indigo elk]

What's MEV? should I just start researching and producing my own?

[dusky burrow]

I mean you should unite South America by that point

[dusky burrow]

military engineering vehicles

another special project

Basically both assault engineers from the military engineering vehicles project + medium flame tanks give some of the best terrain bonuses in the game

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-great-trial-yazov-tno-jolly-gif-11353184525894670164

[dusky burrow]

the jolly trial begins

[indigo elk]

So would you recommend dedicated tank divisions or just use them for support roles?

[quasi shoal]

damn sp artillery is good

may 1941 btw

[dusky burrow]

I'd recommend it on yes, tank divisions

But also on offensive infantry

Flame tanks and assault engineers are cheap for the value you get out of them

[quasi shoal]

I started the war in january 1941

[dusky burrow]

Yep Soviets are doomed

You can probably kill them in 6 months

[quasi shoal]

is sp art the meta now

[dusky burrow]

yeah probably

[woven sparrow]

what is this and how do i make it vanish

[quasi shoal]

that's the console for console commands

press the ~ button

[opal nymph]

That is the console, which is often used for cheats. Press ~ to open and close it

[woven sparrow]

ah thanks

mustve accidently pressed it earlier

[dusky burrow]

Yeah can be pretty easy to accidentally press it

[quasi shoal]

wait is using area defense offensively a good idea

since they can target vps

september 1941

[indigo elk]

What is this? Is it just standard cav recon?

[quasi shoal]

recon rangers

[indigo elk]

Ahh course it is!

[quasi shoal]

iirc it's slightly worse than regular cav recon but provides bonuses for terrain

[indigo elk]

Yeah it provides attack unlike cav recon it seems

[quasi shoal]

yahoo

[indigo elk]

Are they specifically for medium tanks?

Just so I don't waste research developing another type

[naive smelt]

Ah, I just got a 2k monitor does anyone know how to fix the UI?

[quasi shoal]

flame tanks can be any kind but medium is best in sp

[quasi shoal]

wdym

[naive smelt]

Like the UI is too small, and if I change the UI size to 1.2 all the textures become lower quality

[quasi shoal]

are you using borderless

[naive smelt]

Yeah

[quasi shoal]

try changing it

how small is the UI

send a ss

[naive smelt]

This is what it looks like

[waxen cairn]

how is my setup?

[quasi shoal]

you might just have to deal with it

[naive smelt]

Yeah

I will just have to get used to it

[quasi shoal]

it looks pretty similar to mine

[quasi shoal]

you're lacking in manpower

idk about that mod but that looks fine to me otherwise

[waxen cairn]

Im already at the highest i can go

Im going to war soon anyways

So ill get war econ

[waxen cairn]

Its just a ww1 mod

[fallen vigil]

1938 btw

[quasi shoal]

I know

I can see

[quasi shoal]

W

[waxen cairn]

Average Non Historical Player

[quasi shoal]

declare on estonia next

[heavy vigil]

hoi4

[quasi shoal]

😱

[waxen cairn]

Imagine Playing Hoi4 me and the boys are playing Hoi1

[quasi shoal]

it tells you when every naval unit reaches its destination

what

[waxen cairn]

Apparently

[heavy vigil]

how else would you know

[quasi shoal]

good point

[fallen vigil]

we need hoiV

this game is outdated

[waxen cairn]

I fear that might not happen

[undone vale]

how peculiar

[waxen cairn]

hoi5 is the Next GTA V

[heavy vigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/724031429234917386/1371943500563873852/togif.gif?width=704&height=940

[undone vale]

the engine mostly

[fallen vigil]

most normal and uneventful scw

[undone vale]

being single threaded is killing this game

[fallen vigil]

whats wrong with the engine

[undone vale]

its from like 1990 😭

well not really its like 2005 or smth but still

its hella old

i was so confused why EU5 was written on clausewitz aswell

[fallen vigil]

so

whats the downside

[undone vale]

such an odd choice

[undone vale]

shit performance

[fallen vigil]

oh

right

yeah we need that

[undone vale]

clausewitz is pretty nice for modding and such ngl

but the performance is atrocious on this engine

[ancient marsh]

god this is so stupid

this is like the third game i havent been able to actually unify china because i cant kick them from my faction

[dusky burrow]

You can change faction rules

[fallen vigil]

decided to go for round 2 rq

[ancient marsh]

only to kick based on

which none of these can even work

[indigo elk]

Is this a good flame tank design?

[quasi shoal]

does it keep up with your main tanks

[indigo elk]

I don't have any lmao

[quasi shoal]

also maybe lower the production cost a bit

[indigo elk]

It's for the infantry, so yes.

[quasi shoal]

make those first 😭

[ancient marsh]

good

depending on where your fighting you can drop the fuel tank

[indigo elk]

South America

[ancient marsh]

nevermind

hell add another fuel tank

[dusky burrow]

Nah not really needed

For South America you naval invade since most of the VPs are on the coast or next to the coast

[indigo elk]

What would improve this design then?

[quasi shoal]

cheaper i'd say

who are you playing as

[indigo elk]

By the time I have dominance and the invasion force is ready, I could push with land and air power

[indigo elk]

Argentina

[quasi shoal]

prep the naval invasions before starting the war

and get the dominance before starting too

[dusky burrow]

Yeah you can easily do that now

First strike advantage is so real

[kind vale]

Japan took a non historical path in non historical?

[quasi shoal]

I think you're a bit low on political power

[dusky burrow]

which non-historical path

[kind vale]

Monarchy

[quasi shoal]

they do that in like half of nonhist games

from what i've seen

[kind vale]

Nah in every non historical game ive played which is a lot they've always done historical

[dusky burrow]

Yeah this is GWR, there's a decision where signing a peace treaty with Yemen costs 20 pp but removes an additional 50

And then I did a focus after that, removing another 1 pp

Thus 51 pp lost

I also just moved up to partial mobilization, but you don't see that

[undone vale]

😭 what did i do lmao

[wintry drum]

Did AI Germany get a bunch of nerfs?

Cause they suck at Barbarossa lately.

https://i.gyazo.com/16053b7a2710053be44f0829dd19bd39.jpg
It's 1942 and they haven't made it anywhere near Leningrad.

[dusky burrow]

no

nor did the soviets get buffs

well

I think you know the answer

[wintry drum]

I'm used to Germany absolutely bulldozing soviet union until they get to Moscow.

[dusky burrow]

Look at the Baltics

But also Germany is underperforming this patch unless it's against Palestine

[wintry drum]

Why is it underperforming?

[quasi shoal]

sp artillery is so busted

[dusky burrow]

No clue

Must be because the mechanics are hard for the ai

[quasi shoal]

actually this might not even have been the sp art cuz i think it's still moving over from europe

[dusky burrow]

Yeah sinking transports will do that

[waxen cairn]

do you guys think that if i defeat serbia ww1 wont happen?

[dusky burrow]

if you're playing something like gwr germany will declare war on france anyways

like directly

[waxen cairn]

Im playing ottomans and its first balkan war

[dusky burrow]

ah that's a different wwi mod than I'm used to

[waxen cairn]

Yeah its spawn dates is 1910, 1914, and 1919

[dusky burrow]

Okay so here's what I'd do

[waxen cairn]

I chose 1910 and white peace the italo ottoman war and am winning the first balkan war

[dusky burrow]

Make a save roughly before you win the Balkan Wars

And then one branch will be where everything is annexed

The other branch will be where everything is annexed except for the least valuable part of Serbia

[waxen cairn]

Alright ill do that

[dusky burrow]

Then you can compare what happens between the two branches

[waxen cairn]

But honestly the war is taking a long time lol

Its already april 1913

[dusky burrow]

What are your division templates

[waxen cairn]

Bad

[dusky burrow]

Also some of your units in the east lack strength and supply

[waxen cairn]

I got guys on bicycle

[dusky burrow]

So maybe consolidate those once your offensive fully consolidates

[dusky burrow]

what is your operating system

[waxen cairn]

wdym?

[quasi shoal]

if I have a vanilla game would I be able to switch to fps map

[dusky burrow]

I may be telling you how to screenshot

[mystic mantle]

Is ai even worse with navies after rework? It seems so easy to sea lion (no early exploit)

[waxen cairn]

No i play on a shitty computer

It would be worse if i screenshotted

[quasi shoal]

?

[dusky burrow]

I can't see your stats

[dusky burrow]

Seems like it

[waxen cairn]

Nevermind

[dusky burrow]

But it's quite hard to sea lion if you're a minor now

[quasi shoal]

.

[dusky burrow]

btw bicycles don't give good stats to leg infantry divisions

they are fast and they do have good movement terrain bonuses

but they cost around twice as much as a normal leg infantry

and also your max speed value is stuck at the minimum of battalions, so 4 kmh

[wraith mauve]

How fix? I need to play tno

[quasi shoal]

have you tried just launching the game

it might work

[wraith mauve]

Ya i have

Tno is ass without requiem

[quasi shoal]

then you just can't play

the mod is outdated

[wraith mauve]

What if I go back to like 1.6.8

[quasi shoal]

I mean you can do that

I think

[wraith mauve]

Would it be compatible to both?

[dusky burrow]

Yeah some updates might just not affect anything

[lyric storm]

Hey guys how do I defeet Austria as France i cant in 1944 figure it out?!

[dusky burrow]

do you not have manpower

that's the true game over

if you do try your best to hold until I get a good idea on what your situation looks like

speaking of, what does it look like

[lyric storm]

I have a little manpower right now like but I thought since its Austria it would be easy

So I did only a little bit

[dusky burrow]

Okay so what does the map look like rn

[visual dawn]

This is probably stupid but if a mod says made for a different version does that mean it doesn’t work

[dusky burrow]

Not exactly

It means try at your own risk

It could very well work

[azure crescent]

Paradox i need this, my oil stockpiles are kinda empty, i cant naval invade the usa

[wraith mauve]

Oh requiem and og tno dont work together anymore

[dusky burrow]

Oof

What does your situation look like

But yeah that seems to be a big issue recently

[azure crescent]

its not horrid but i just have no more oil

or anyway yo invade the usa without going with my navy

[wintry drum]

https://i.gyazo.com/b68abe3b1a68bce1c454597dddb12619.png
I won the winter war.

[dusky burrow]

Are you trying to, say, invade across the atlantic or pacific, or are you trying to island hop essentially

[wintry drum]

I'm so proud of myself, thank you Jimarkus for teaching me.

[dusky burrow]

(like say from the caribbean)

[azure crescent]

im just tryna go right across the pacific

[dusky burrow]

i see

[azure crescent]

my stockpiles are filling back up

i stand corrected

they are empty again

[dusky burrow]

I guess you wait until you estimate you have enough fuel to continuously patrol for enough time and then you try it

[leaden mulch]

Is this the Soviet Union?

[dusky burrow]

also you may want to build refineries

[fallen vigil]

just as i was about to lose maybe in 5 months i finally got the achievement

[dusky burrow]

Nice

Also how did france breakthrough that badly

[fallen vigil]

they randomly declared war on me two weeks before this ss

they already controlled the rhine

[dusky burrow]

Oh

I don't think the French are that strong fortunately

[agile dirge]

So is the Italy ai 😔

[twilit field]

Please do something stupid allied ai

[agile dirge]

😭

[twilit field]

its 1942

germany hasnt even done the war with soviets focus

this game just wants me to suffer

[supple summit]

I cant tell if its just me or does kaiserredux have no naval invasion sound

because germany made it half way through india before i noticed

[sudden thistle]

because allies are in allied mainland

btw u dont know how to play this game

ur divs have nothing

at all

[twilit field]

they do they have uh most of their equipment

just like no manpower

ive consolidated a few of them

[supple summit]

make divisions from indonesia

they will be shit but they do the job ig

[twilit field]

thats what they all are

[supple summit]

bru

[twilit field]

i got like 100 divisions before the war started

[supple summit]

in my opinion i think thats a bit too much as the netherlands

[twilit field]

i dont know why indomesia's template troops arent reinforcing, indies have 1 Million manpower still

[supple summit]

pretty sure indonesia gives like 80% of their manpower to use in divisions

or maybe 90

then the 10% you fill up with your own

[twilit field]

oh that makes sense actually, because indomesia has like the last autonomy thing, so i think its more like 50/50 now

[supple summit]

yeah then bingo

you shouldnt let indonesia get too low of an autonomy

also make some forts

[desert echo]

Submarines are too busted, I stopped playing destroyer+cruiser and tried subs for today

[twilit field]

i do have level 7 forts, static anti air, anti air support

[supple summit]

their so good because ai dont put any anti sub shit on their ships

[supple summit]

and holy fix your camera quality

[supple summit]

thats good atleast

put them behind rivers aswell

[desert echo]

Dude

This is old phone

[supple summit]

ok

idk what to say about that

[desert echo]

Idk about that

[supple summit]

no the ai is dogshit at designing stuff

[twilit field]

i wish i could, these tiles are apparently the best though, also for holding all three states

[desert echo]

Does Ai always put bad ships? (Basic and early stuff)

[supple summit]

if they do it with everything else why not ships?

[desert echo]

Their destroyers do have depth charges, but they're shit bruh

[supple summit]

💔

[supple summit]

idk what to say then

im not too good at the game myself

[twilit field]

just gotta keep going and hope the ai allies get smart, and not get fricked over by the reinforce rng lol

[desert echo]

Back then, I tried putting cruisers and destroyers to do things like this, and I regretted them quickly

But yeah, I'll go back to cruiser and destroyers soon

[supple summit]

carriers are very good for supremacy so combine both ig?

[supple summit]

tbh theres also one more reason

Allied AI wont send troops over if you already have a ton of troops there

[desert echo]

Eh, I play Philipine so... I did try to make a battleship back then but it took me 3-4 years, my cruisers ended up on finishing the Japanese fleet

Before the Battleship even exist

[supple summit]

no like dont use the carriers for actual fighting

use a really cheap template for supremacy

for quick naval invasions

[desert echo]

OOH

Tf

[twilit field]

then i just hope they open a second front somehwere

[desert echo]

I never thought of that

I'll try lmao

[supple summit]

ong

[twilit field]

they have inVasion plans for italy but none for franCe yet

[supple summit]

it will be peak

[supple summit]

im sure it will be fine

[desert echo]

Same goes for Axis bruh

[supple summit]

rn just on my third try trying to beat germany as mongolia

[desert echo]

The logistic and transport gonna be hell

[supple summit]

nah

kaiserredux made mongolia op

[twilit field]

i recently did a run of forming the Chinese Empire as Shangdong, it was a bit of a pain figuring out the borderwar mechanics but i eventually got it and took over most of china without an actual war lol

[desert echo]

Ooh I thought you gonna play it on vanilla

[supple summit]

15% core mp just by doing focuses

[supple summit]

oh damn

lol

[twilit field]

Shangdong because i just liked it

um would not recommend either Shangdong or Hebei-Chahar in historical though

both just die instantly to Japan

[supple summit]

if only if i were that good 💔

[supple summit]

i mean not exactly instantly

[desert echo]

Mongolia ain't gonna get expansion for like... Forever dawg 😭 🙏

[supple summit]

if you actually put your cards right you can shit on them easily

[supple summit]

the past 2 dlcs are useless

i can get better in r56

[desert echo]

GoE is shit I'm telling you

[supple summit]

on god

pure money grab

[twilit field]

as hebei i can see it, especially with a recent Bittersteel video doing the Northease army which basically becomes Hebei

But Shangdong seems a bit impossible

[desert echo]

NCNS is good for Philipine tho, even though the others say it's boring... Well at least they have navy now

[supple summit]

any nation is possible

just need the right tactics

[twilit field]

true

[desert echo]

China is getting more confusing but uh... At least you can feel the difficulty is raised due to tons of new debuff, but the buffs are jacked too lmao, even better than the old one

[twilit field]

the things some people can do

[supple summit]

the old one was just a squiggle and they called it a day#

whatever floats the boat

[twilit field]

would be cool if there was a mod before the northern expedition, to include many more warlords before roc ate them

[twilit field]

havent found one though

[gusty oracle]

finally someone uses this gem

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[desert echo]

Nope

My printscreen don't work

It needs combination of two keys if I remember correctly

Alt and idk which one

[ancient marsh]

this hurts to look at

like

legitimately gives me pain

[desert echo]

My bad for the photo

[candid panther]

what core state do me/my subjects not fully control????

[desert echo]

Like dude

[ancient marsh]

its like wearing dirty glasses

[desert echo]

I forgot which combination 😭🙏

[ancient marsh]

its just windows + printscreen

[desert echo]

I'll try

[desert echo]

Unfortunately no

[azure crescent]

click the resistance map

[desert echo]

Wow

[azure crescent]

thats your cores

very china shaped

[candid panther]

and i fully control all of them so why didnt i get the achievment

[desert echo]

The yellow ones are the Soviet people revolting

[azure crescent]

you need that lil guy you have down there

[supple summit]

swear to god having ai allies is like a 3-12 job

[desert echo]

That's where the resistances are

Finally

[candid panther]

?

[azure crescent]

you're going for the its all coming together achievement?

[candid panther]

yes

[azure crescent]

you need the subject you have

i think so, because the requirements are own it all or with subjects

you have one so thats prolly why

[desert echo]

Oh yeah

[supple summit]

yo lads can any improvements be made here? Im playing as mongolia in the kaiserredux

[desert echo]

Claim Guandong too

[supple summit]

ik shit

[desert echo]

What is that soft attack bruh

[supple summit]

idk

[desert echo]

Is it fine with 37 width tho?

[supple summit]

wdym?

[desert echo]

Your width is 37

[supple summit]

ik but wdym

like wdym fine?

ik what the width is for but like im confused here

[desert echo]

No, I mean I don't think I'd like to play with 37 width

If horsey I usually go small

[supple summit]

fair

but the thing is

[silk gust]

France if it was the balkans

[supple summit]

i have 507 divisions of these btw

so i just want to just get good breakthrough

[desert echo]

Idk how you guys have kaiserredux so I can't really say anything since I've never played it

[supple summit]

its basically the same as base hoi4

the division designer has nothing changed

[desert echo]

Ooh

[twilit field]

i think you need a part of the Raj, make sure China doesnt have a claim on Arunachal Pradesh

[dusky burrow]

Just replace the two arty with 3 cavalry

[supple summit]

oh ight but why though?

[twilit field]

you can get it through a focus though

if they accept

[candid panther]

i dont i checked but now im cooked cus im gettng killed by uk so the game just scammed me

[dusky burrow]

Also since you're already motorizing AA you are using fuel, thus use medium flame tanks and assault engineers if you can

[desert echo]

Does NCNS allow you that

[dusky burrow]

artillery doesn't provide enough value to the division

[supple summit]

bruh its gonna take a while before i can get it across all 507 divisions

[desert echo]

Waking the tiger does allow you to claim the McMahon line

[dusky burrow]

oh my

[desert echo]

Idk with NCNS

[twilit field]

yeah the foreign powers focus tree did it

and its stayed the same

[supple summit]

i am going all in with the khan

[desert echo]

Ooh alright

[dusky burrow]

also probably use light tank recon

You barely have any breakthrough

[twilit field]

they did add one extra focus at the bottom to ask for the european port cities

[supple summit]

sadly

alright then

i gotta research tanks then

i dont even got that researched

and somehow conquered all of china and india and all of russia

life is good

until the germans came around

[desert echo]

Change all the horsey to tanks, that's how you get better breakthroughs

From meaty horsey

To steel horsey

[supple summit]

nuh uh

we are going the way of the horse

[dusky burrow]

do you have recon researched

[supple summit]

lemme see

[desert echo]

Khan approves

[supple summit]

no

💔

[desert echo]

Yeah that's gonna take time

[supple summit]

mb for the ping

[desert echo]

Seeing US perform less than the Philippines is just sad

[dusky burrow]

Oh no problem

[desert echo]

Oh I thought their flag would be using blue color and red

[supple summit]

fair

but we got genghis khan II

[dusky burrow]

artillery is basically only useful if you're struggling with manpower, and even then you generally lose more men per combat

[supple summit]

quite literally

[supple summit]

fair

[desert echo]

Nvm, it's Yuan Dynasty if I remember correctly, I think it was white and blue for Mongol? Idk anymore

[supple summit]

it was white and blue yeah

[dusky burrow]

the thing with artillery is that it decreases org, HP, and terrain bonuses while increasing soft attack, and these effects more or less cancel each other out

[desert echo]

True

[heavy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/katyusha-gif-18144996

[desert echo]

Line infantry is just kinda a problem with their terrain debuffs

[supple summit]

alright so full horse divisions

got it

[dusky burrow]

motorized rocket artillery (katyusha) ftw

if only they were good

[supple summit]

gotta waste the mp somehow

[desert echo]

I barely see them do any damage

[dusky burrow]

those trucks do look cool tbh

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[supple summit]

nvm no full horse divisions

going back to recon

[dusky burrow]

Partially because you barely see them, partially because they're still in this camp

[twilit field]

do you guys know if the soviets declare on germany themselves if germany doesnt do it?

[supple summit]

its even more sad without the arty

[supple summit]

no

[dusky burrow]

sometimes i get frustrated

[twilit field]

really i thought they did before

[supple summit]

you sure i shouldnt use arty?

[desert echo]

Tbf, Katyusha in WW2 is used for psychological weapons, idk about their effectiveness in creating casualties

[vivid juniper]

My game in 1950 I decided to do fascist Belgium. I’m just along for the ride and non aligned
Britain and Germany aligned and oh man

[supple summit]

i use motorized artillery instead of normal artillery

[dusky burrow]

I'm sure, but do make them like 32 width

Or 36 width even

[desert echo]

Line arty is just nah if you want it to be faster

[dusky burrow]

Also do replace your support companies

[supple summit]

to what?

[dusky burrow]

medium flame tank
assault engineers
hospitals
support artillery is fine until you get self-propelled super-heavy howitzer
wait no this is not a flex spot this is light tank recon

[supple summit]

hospitals??

[desert echo]

Field hospital

[supple summit]

no yeah

[dusky burrow]

yeah for the experience loss reduction

[supple summit]

but like

why

oh

fair

[desert echo]

Loss reduction

[supple summit]

should i replace all artillery production with super heavy howitzers

[desert echo]

But I probably won't think of casualties

Because of yk

509 divs

[dusky burrow]

normal super-heavy howitzers slow you down

So maybe not

[supple summit]

manpower is replacable

[desert echo]

I don't mind if some of them died

[dusky burrow]

that's why i specified the self-propelled version because that doesn't slow you down

[supple summit]

fair

i have super heavy howitzers but no option to actually make motorized versions of them

if you know what i mean

idk how to explain

[dusky burrow]

there's a special project

[supple summit]

oh

[dusky burrow]

typically it's a very late game thing

Since you need both super-heavy howitzer + military engineering vehicles unlocked and then another 2 breakthrough points

totalling 5 land breakthroughs

plus you probably want flame tanks as well

[supple summit]

gotta research the support vehicle thing

[dusky burrow]

and maybe super-heavy railway gun too

[supple summit]

i have flame tanks already

[supple summit]

is that even good?

[dusky burrow]

Especially if you're attacking into forts yes

But they also decrease the enemy's attack

So you suffer less damage in both attack and defense

[supple summit]

ah

fair

rn gotta just quickly do this

[desert echo]

How do I find the sneaky aircraft carriers of the Japanese, been patrolling the seas but I never found them

I found them and fought them once

And then I never saw them anymore, idk where they hide

[twilit field]

got german intelligence high enough to see focuses

they are doing all their navy focuses before the soviets 😭

[dusky burrow]

rip germany

[twilit field]

1942, as netherlands have killed 2.7 Million germans

[viscid sleet]

i havent played for a couple of months, whats with all the new energy stuff and naval invasion? and seas access

[twilit field]

oh my gosh the british are coming

finally my suffering is almost over

[wintry drum]

You need coal to power factories, naval supremacy replaced by dominance, you can close naval access.

[wary slate]

haii

[desert echo]

How

By navy or army

[desert echo]

Oranje boven

[twilit field]

yes

a lot of pain

yeah we have manpower

[warped flint]

who whould I play as rn

Wait ill do communist germany

[quasi shoal]

damn

and i'm fighting brazil with basically only sp artillery

scratch that I am fighting them with only sp artillery

[warped flint]

Wow that was a very fast civil war

ended in may

[desert echo]

Where did you get those manpower?

DEI?

[twilit field]

Yeah at the begining i trained like 120 or so troops from the DEI

(used int market to equip them

[desert echo]

No wonder

[twilit field]

after consolidating a bunch of them now (because dei raised autonomy and took its manpower back mostly) i still have about 100 divisions

[heavy vigil]

bad logistics moment..

[heavy vigil]

shouldve made a lot of 2 width, convert to larger to eat up all their manpower and then annex them

as in like edit to be larger

[twilit field]

oh thats what i did actually

dei has two templates one 3 battalion one and one 9 one

so i just built a ton of the three template and swothced them to the 9 inf one with support stuff

didnt annex them though

[quaint kettle]

Pro tip as Germany, don't invade the USSR during ww2, focus on the UK and France. I won ww2 in 1941 using that tactic