Yes ik
#hoi4-general
toxic cypress
also fighting in africa isnt worth it
fresh thorn
I was actually trying to help
fresh thorn
also fighting in africa isnt worth it
Noted
toxic cypress
its worth to hold what u own and benefit from
but dont push into africa
there is no supply for u
fresh thorn
But can’t I dock on Ethiopian Italy?
toxic cypress
so u will losse alot
fresh thorn
Since it’s technically Italian land
toxic cypress
But can’t I dock on Ethiopian Italy?
r u allied?
fresh thorn
Yes
toxic cypress
if ur at war with the uk
fresh thorn
I think
toxic cypress
u cant use it
toxic cypress
im sure someone can help
fresh thorn
@lilac glen yo
My plan as Germany for Africa rn is to like
Have ports
So I can easily access other parts of the world
lilac glen
My plan as Germany for Africa rn is to like
I am new, bro 😔
neat kayak
i am not recommending this
fresh thorn
Final look at my campaign
man chile wasent playing around
tropic lance
canonically germany won ww1 and the uk and france became socialist n they're supposed to ally with "white" russia (empire loyalists won the civil war but it became a republic/dictatorship under sankinov.) anyways, germany and allies are supposed to dramatically fall to the uk fra and rus signalling the end of a new era and the beginning of a worldwide revolution
fresh thorn
canonically germany won ww1 and the uk and france became socialist n they're sup...
hmmm
nice
tropic lance
like everything becomes socialist
fresh thorn
socialism is just super flexible
what can i say
in hoi 4
not
not irl
yikes...
lilac glen
Chat
How does "Conquer" casus belli affect the peace conference?
Does it only guarantee allies won't try to take these lands?
Do I need to select more than one state if I want to annex everything?
random delta
i have been able to keep myself on extensive conscription this entire democratic germany run. i am satisfied with myself.
wraith mauve
Playing red flood first time any recommendations?
lilac glen
this isnt EU4
*CK3
Anyway
Seriously, how the frick do I get this piece of land?
Czechoslovakia came from the Aether
I annexed this mf
And it suddenly popped into existence
I can't get rid of this little shit stain
Because the supply in this region is just awful
tropic lance
Because the supply in this region is just awful
one quick and easy solution is to remove divisions from the front to make the supply strain less, or just mass fabricate transport planes and hope for the best. or you coul also motorize your supply
or upgrade your rails
sudden grotto
Seriously, how the frick do I get this piece of land?
surely by not pouring a whole army in it and fk up the supplies
tropic lance
or disable supply for allies
sudden grotto
get air on
cas
take off the tanks, they drain the supplies
i suggest you to go via hungary or yugo tho, isee that romania is in so they will prob have a good defence
bright arrow
Seriously, how the frick do I get this piece of land?
Go through Yugoslavia into Romania, and they'll die
idle berry
Is 4 full field Marshalls behind the dniper river enough to stop the Germans
Don’t have SS Rn just know I made 4 fully trained
heavy vigil
Go through Yugoslavia into Romania, and they'll die
you have to be mindful of there being no yugo-romanian railway
idle berry
WITH guns
heavy vigil
480 divs is okay
bright arrow
you have to be mindful of there being no yugo-romanian railway
Better than trying to go through The czechs ahah
idle berry
480 divs is okay
ok thanks
bright arrow
480 divs isnt enough, make 956
idle berry
It’s 1940 I’m 99% sure, I can make 1 more
bright arrow
Btw what are those 480 div templates?
idle berry
Btw what are those 480 div templates?
Block of 9, engineers and AA
lilac glen
one quick and easy solution is to remove divisions from the front to make the su...
How do I motorize my supply?
lilac glen
surely by not pouring a whole army in it and fk up the supplies
Tbh, I have no idea how many divisions I need to win a battle
idle berry
I’m also making heavies but stockpiling
bright arrow
Do you have the things that can fly?
lilac glen
or disable supply for allies
There's no allies nearby tho? Or do you mean I passively send supplies to allies?
idle berry
Do you have the things that can fly?
nope
Hence the AA
might make inf divs with actual AA battalions just incase
To put behind lines
bright arrow
U should be fine regardless
lilac glen
Go through Yugoslavia into Romania, and they'll die
I am at war with Yugoslavia, if I leave Czech, this shit stain mf will take everything
bright arrow
I am at war with Yugoslavia, if I leave Czech, this shit stain mf will take ever...
Leave like 10 divs
lilac glen
Leave like 10 divs
Sure
idle berry
Should be fine when I play tmr?
lilac glen
I will try that, thanks
bright arrow
Should be fine when I play tmr?
Yeah i doubt the Germans will be able to break through you in any way
If they do its because the allies screwed up and they managed to get +20k planes
idle berry
Also stockpiling fighters but I remember production was dog poo
I had like 98 by 40’
Good fighters
bright arrow
Keep them as interceptors on your industrial regions since you wont be able to overwhelm them initially
idle berry
Alr
I had I’m pretty sure 130 covvies and 150 mils
If shit hits the fan I’ll just ramp up production on heavies
bright arrow
Don't worry, sounds like you have it in the bag
idle berry
Kk
Bcz I used to destroy th Germans but after thsi update idek I can’t anymore sooo
OVERestimating them
Severely
Also max
What’s it called
Collab on them
And a spy
warped flint
pick for me
bright arrow
Oh, the Belarus SSR
heavy vigil
baltic resources suck
bright arrow
The other one sounds boring
heavy vigil
The other one sounds boring
the real tech is to unite baltics before going ussr puppet
iirc it more than doubles your core pop
which is silly
because all the baltic states have a focus that adds 260K pop to all their states
bright arrow
Baltics are basically forest and nothing more
lilac glen
Chat
Do you need to add motorized infantry to tank divisions?
IRL tanks need infantry support to not be picked off
heavy vigil
Do you need to add motorized infantry to tank divisions?
tank batallions have like no hp
bright arrow
Org
heavy vigil
org isnt that relevant
org is what you want when defending so battle lasts longer
for attacking you dont wanna hit below 91% strenght as your stats decrease every 10%
but you could also just force attack if no org but you feel obligated to attack
lilac glen
for attacking you dont wanna hit below 91% strenght as your stats decrease every...
What is strength? It's how superior you are to enemy's offense?
remote quarry
Chat
you always need some sort of infantry in your tank(be it leg inf, calvary, motorized, mechanized, funny treeman...)
because otherwise you won't have any HP in the division
and going below half composition with infantry is extremely bad in any division
remote quarry
basically
bright arrow
What civil war?
warped flint
What civil war?
When I did that focus it said it would start a civil war in belarus
in like 160 days
and the decision area is gone but no civil war
heavy vigil
What is strength? It's how superior you are to enemy's offense?
its just your strenght bar, how much % of manpower and equipment your division has
lilac glen
basically
Is it true you only need a ratio of like 20 cheap infantry-based divisions to hold the line to every armored division for offense?
bright arrow
When I did that focus it said it would start a civil war in belarus
Ive never played Commie Baltics, but did the decision say the civil war was in the Soviet or in Belarus
warped flint
Ive never played Commie Baltics, but did the decision say the civil war was in t...
Belarus
lilac glen
its just your strenght bar, how much % of manpower and equipment your division h...
Oh, I just need to keep them with supplies
Btw
warped flint
(sorry i meant Poland)
Soviet union
lilac glen
What is the easiest way to destroy the Royal Navy?
warped flint
It had that like clicking game to get control of states
so I am gonna just restart since theres nothing I can do
woeful zealot
fresh thorn
Hey guys
Off topic from hoi4 and more into my irl
But still falls back to hoi4
I like hoi4 that’s obvious that’s why I’m here
But my dad is a MASSIVE history nerd
He watches today’s politics and everything
And like
I made my own idea to not get him into, but show him hoi4
Since he loves history
Only issue is that he’s old and yknow
Old people don’t really like gaming
Or even watching games
lilac glen
I made my own idea to not get him into, but show him hoi4
That's sweet
Good luck with that
🫂
warped flint
Hey didnt the baltic countrys own some more territory here
I believe the russians took it during the time they were in the soviet union
wraith mauve
Whats better kaiserdux or kaiserreich
bright arrow
Hey didnt the baltic countrys own some more territory here
Do you mean this?
warped flint
Do you mean this?
Yeah
bright arrow
Whats better kaiserdux or kaiserreich
Kaiserreich for logical, balanced game, Kaiserreidux for nonsense, crazy paths
But you'll have to be literate to play Kaiserreich
warped flint
Do you mean this?
Yk it does look like they control some, but it might just be that the borders are simplified
bright arrow
I wouldn't take Hoi4 borders too seriously
They do whatever they can with the tiles
fresh thorn
That's sweet
I showed it to him
He loved it
He was actually shocked by how accurate and well made it is
hushed flicker
Can anyone recommend good mods besides the popular ones like KR
lilac glen
He loved it
Aw, so cute
bright arrow
Thats the most annoying civil war in the world
heavy vigil
how do I win this
3 units bordering a 1 unit tile?
also opposite running out of org while attacking
warped flint
River
heavy vigil
I fell back to try to encircle them
you dont want to tho
warped flint
And of course that failed because they wont move into the 1 tile I want them too
heavy vigil
killing encirclements is your already small mp pool
heavy vigil
its not that hard
warped flint
Man I have had to restart 2 times now cause of just bullshit
lilac glen
Can anyone experienced here coach me on HOI4 combat? I need some questions answered 😭
warped flint
its not that hard
I cant push
heavy vigil
I cant push
just push where you have more divs than them
warped flint
I have like 30 strength in divisions
heavy vigil
youll be able to
heavy vigil
i told you that you had it
remote sentinel
yolo
heavy vigil
ofc youll take river penalty but its fine
warped flint
i told you that you had it
You did to late
heavy vigil
their units also suck
remote quarry
Is it true you only need a ratio of like 20 cheap infantry-based divisions to ho...
you need enough infantry to hold the line
usually not a useful way to think in terms of rati
just go higher on guns if you are not sure
more guns are always potentially useful
lilac glen
usually not a useful way to think in terms of rati
Rati?
warped flint
Ratio I think
lilac glen
Oh
Well
I get the gist of winning wars
But I don't think my current production is sustainable lol
lilac glen
you need enough infantry to hold the line
That's the thing
How much is that? Lol
How many divisions by state? How many infantry divisions?
Should I add every single type of support?
Weak = cheap
But they must be able to push and destroy otber divisions after you encircle enemies with your offense units, correct?
warped flint
Should I add every single type of support?
The amount per tile depends on the combat width of the tile
random delta
italy gets mutilated by the budget version of the EU and dies
lilac glen
The amount per tile depends on the combat width of the tile
Combat width is a mystery for me
remote quarry
How many divisions by state? How many infantry divisions?
if you think it's enough there's enough
put every mil on gun if you think it's not gonna be enough
warped flint
Combat width is a mystery for me
Basically how many of your divisions that can go into the combat width comfortabley
remote quarry
this kind of question is generally not very useful
better to think about how to get more stuff out in the first palce
warped flint
So if its 60 combat width 3 20 widths would fit
remote quarry
Should I add every single type of support?
only add support artillery
and support anti air, if you don't have air
but better do
warped flint
Now I dont think 20 width divisions are good but just an example
remote quarry
But they must be able to push and destroy otber divisions after you encircle ene...
it doesn't matter, there's not much of a distinction as this afterall, basic infantry can do anything
you just need to have more stuff out and have modifiers
remote quarry
How much is that? Lol
simply put, if you are not losing, it's enough
desert echo
But they must be able to push and destroy otber divisions after you encircle ene...
Nice pfp
desert echo
simply put, if you are not losing, it's enough
Nice pfp
heavy vigil
Should I add every single type of support?
no
desert echo
But scihub sometimes unable to crack some paper
desert echo
you can request it
Yeah I know
I ended up using books from 1952
Or when the theory was born
remote quarry
oh for books there might be a few other places to look for
lilac glen
put every mil on gun if you think it's not gonna be enough
I have 15 hours in this game, I feel like I am going to lose to Poland as Germany no matter what
remote quarry
What's your major
💀 something something 🧠
heavy vigil
💀 something something 🧠
phrenologist?
remote quarry
I have 15 hours in this game, I feel like I am going to lose to Poland as German...
if you put every mil on gun and deploy your stockpile you would 100% not lose
remote quarry
phrenologist?
that would be fun
desert echo
that would be fun
Biology?
desert echo
Oh
remote quarry
I'm majoring for future unemployed citizen
my future
desert echo
Biotechnology
remote quarry
not as cool as that sadly
lilac glen
Nice pfp
Thank you! The cat in the left is the most pitiful cat in the existence, ths cat in the right is the most awful and evil cat in existence
remote quarry
or ok i mostly use scihub now for some medical stuff
desert echo
Thank you! The cat in the left is the most pitiful cat in the existence, ths cat...
I only know the one on the right
remote quarry
that my institution have no access for
desert echo
It reminds me of bad stuff
lilac glen
if you put every mil on gun and deploy your stockpile you would 100% not lose
Fair, I just want to lower my IC use
desert echo
You can say that I was in fear and hunger when playing the game
warped flint
should I play free france
remote quarry
Fair, I just want to lower my IC use
gun ic is always useful
eventually
try to lower until you lose
basically
lilac glen
It reminds me of bad stuff
Pocketcat is a little shit, yeah
The left cat is Rocky Rickaby
desert echo
Pocketcat is a little shit, yeah
Since when he ain't shit? He high-key shit
lilac glen
The violinist from Lackadaisy
heavy vigil
Fair, I just want to lower my IC use
gun for less MIC per unit, tank for more MIC per unit
lilac glen
Since when he ain't shit? He high-key shit
I didn't say he wasn't 😭
desert echo
Lemme guess your major one more time
Chemistry or Psychology? That's my guess
warped flint
Wait Free france or Belgium
lilac glen
Nah you said that he's a little shit
Little shit is just a way of expression, it's not that deep 😔
desert echo
But psychology students rarely use scihub, they're usually yap all the way to the win
desert echo
PHARMACY!!!!!
Your major is pharmacy?
lilac glen
Your major is pharmacy?
When I am done, yeah!
desert echo
Holy shit, I hope you're still alive
lilac glen
Why? Big Pharma is gonna kill me?
desert echo
No
remote quarry
But psychology students rarely use scihub, they're usually yap all the way to th...
ok wrong guess but this is 100% truuuuu
lol
🧠
hint
desert echo
ok wrong guess but this is 100% truuuuu
My roommate is majoring in psychology
He yap till I want to bash my head to the wall
desert echo
Why? Big Pharma is gonna kill me?
You'll be dead before big pharma sees your face
It's the darn assignment or team assignments
I've seen one losing 5kg in one semester or gaining 10kg in just one semester
Either you eat a lot or you get sick
desert echo
oh no i meant neuro
Neuroscience?
remote quarry
y
desert echo
Neurology?
remote quarry
Neuroscience?
this
sudden thistle
Guys why am I losing
Can’t tell if this is genuine
desert echo
Yeah true, how did they cross the Maginot or the Ardennes
desert echo
Oh
sudden thistle
I only have 2.3 hours on this game
Ahh makes sense
desert echo
Did you stack all your units into one?
desert echo
I am just tryna play Free France
Not so free-france
desert echo
I only have 3.05 minutes in the game
Bruh
warped flint
I only have 3.05 minutes in the game
noob
desert echo
Only if they're controlled by bittersteel
north spoke
One must imagine
desert echo
https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-its-always-sunny-applaud-happy-cry-clapping-...
I mean, is it hard to use navy?
north spoke
I mean, is it hard to use navy?
Yes
desert echo
Nah
north spoke
Yes
desert echo
Just outgun your enemy
north spoke
Just outgun your enemy
The not so humble united kingdom
desert echo
Or just use Philipine fr
desert echo
The not so humble united kingdom
What UK gon do to something they can't even see
The not so humble U-Boat
north spoke
What UK gon do to something they can't even see
Naval invade it
desert echo
Naval invade it
Yeah right, as if the UK gonna cross that channel in 1941
north spoke
Yeah right, as if the UK gonna cross that channel in 1941
They sure as hell gonna try
lilac glen
I've seen one losing 5kg in one semester or gaining 10kg in just one semester
😭
Btw
How do I defeat the Royal Navy as Germany?
I fricked up
desert echo
Anyway, paradox please nerf Philipine, even though as much as I love it, the IJN and IJA's ai is too darn stupid 😭🙏
lilac glen
I have almost no navy while having no researched 1939 naval tech
😭
I will die if I don't invade England soon
desert echo
How do I defeat the Royal Navy as Germany?
U-Boat, and no you can't beat the royal navy, as much as I love the U-Boat and trade interdiction, the royal navy is just too big
Not to mention they'll eventually develop sonar
Me personally, I love cruiser
lilac glen
U-Boat, and no you can't beat the royal navy, as much as I love the U-Boat and t...
Naval bomber? :(
I want to get rid of their damn navy
remote quarry
How do I defeat the Royal Navy as Germany?
do the focus "raiding cruisers" or whatever that allow you to refit convoys to cruisers
make a design of interwar cruiser with the EXACT same name but most expensive(max light attack armor IV)
click the decision every month/whenever its available
boom you get a free navy
it has to be named exactly Hilfskreuzer
design it after you get armor IV
fit as many light cruiser gun and anything as possible
best part is that the focus doesn't actually take away convoys, so you just keep clicking it
desert echo
do the focus "raiding cruisers" or whatever that allow you to refit convoys to c...
This one good
lilac glen
do the focus "raiding cruisers" or whatever that allow you to refit convoys to c...
Damn
desert echo
Just don't make any battleship or Carrier imo
They're kinda pointless
Since Britania rules the wave
gentle cloak
Guys how the hell do i even invade Norway as Germany?
I’m not able to send my troops there
I also beat their entire navy
And I can’t send them through Finland
remote quarry
naval invade
remote quarry
Like marines?
basically select 6 divisions, click on the naval invasion button, left click on one of your port, then right click on norway's port and the tile adjacent to it
it takes 50 days to prepare
then you can launch it with naval supremacy
gentle cloak
then you can launch it with naval supremacy
So I can use any infantry? I don’t need to train marine infantry?
remote quarry
So I can use any infantry? I don’t need to train marine infantry?
anything can invade
gentle cloak
Tysm
remote quarry
it's just that you need to have amphibious attack to negate the malus(-50%) when invading
but normal infantry with support engineer is enough
even better if you have flame tank
gentle cloak
Cuz I invaded all of balkans except Romania and Hungary they joined my faction and I beat Denmark and Netherlands
But then I lost cuz I couldn’t invade Norway
Cuz I didn’t know how
gentle cloak
Cuz I invaded all of balkans except Romania and Hungary they joined my faction a...
Invaded Poland too
gentle cloak
even better if you have flame tank
Strong tanks you mean?
remote quarry
Strong tanks you mean?
it's a support company you unlock with special project
you need no step back dlc to have it
you get it from designing a medium tank with flamethrower and designate the role as flame
warped flint
never playing 1939 start date again
toxic cypress
british special forces rules the world
heady bison
How many ships are enough to patrol?
remote quarry
How many ships are enough to patrol?
1
toxic cypress
wow
atomic carbon
when should i annex when should i puppet
toxic cypress
i havent seen csa in a good while
warped flint
Yk what ima stick with this, I deceided to check how the soviets were doing, this looks cool
remote quarry
when should i annex when should i puppet
you should never puppet outside of a few specific situations
you should always try to make collaboration government on nations you will conquer, and directly annex them
if that's not possible, annex and put them on harsh quota
atomic carbon
thank you but when should i puppet?
remote quarry
never, outside a few specific situations
basically never if you really wonder
(this include focuses btw)
atomic carbon
but like what would an example of a situation be where i puppet
remote quarry
never ever do a puppet focus when you can go to war and annex
remote quarry
but like what would an example of a situation be where i puppet
you basically never benefit from puppet
im saying a few specific situation where you could benefit more from puppet
the situation is japan and china
atomic carbon
alright so i just annex and get compliance?
remote quarry
yes
remote quarry
ohhh makes sense
ok, this should not make sense to you
but just remember to always annex
atomic carbon
ok, this should not make sense to you
well a puppeted china is really good right?
remote quarry
well a puppeted china is really good right?
no
atomic carbon
oh
remote quarry
the thing about japan is that its special puppet type only have one level of compliance, so you still make collab but make a puppet from peacedeal and take war reparation, then annex them with autonomy mechanic
this way, you still annex them eventually but in the process you gain the war reparation factory for free
basically duplicates their civs
but it's a very specific situation
atomic carbon
oh yea they have that weird puppet stage
wary sparrow
I looked away for like 1 hour and forgot to pause, wth happened
atomic carbon
thank you
remote quarry
because obviously you won't have compliance and the horn of afirca puppets all have special focus trees
atomic carbon
because obviously you won't have compliance and the horn of afirca puppets all h...
isnt there only italian east africa
wary sparrow
well that would technically be all
atomic carbon
true
remote quarry
isnt there only italian east africa
you don't want to make that puppet
wary sparrow
real
remote quarry
there are more puppets you can create in the peacedeal
wary sparrow
there are more puppets you can create in the peacedeal
takes a long time for them to do industry
atomic carbon
oh and they get the focus tree?
wary sparrow
not really worth imo
remote quarry
not really worth imo
it's not like there's any other better method
wary sparrow
oh and they get the focus tree?
yeah all the ethopian warlords have a custom focus tree
remote quarry
oh and they get the focus tree?
they have a special focus tree yes
wary sparrow
it's not like there's any other better method
just annex
remote quarry
which spawns in a few factory(for you)
remote quarry
just annex
that's the worst method
means you would fail the mission, and you won't have supply there
wary sparrow
that's the worst method
atomic carbon
alright thank you for explaining
remote quarry
eventually yes, but it doesn't benefit you at all
wary sparrow
eventually yes, but it doesn't benefit you at all
theres 15 rubber
remote quarry
or if you hate puppets ofc
remote quarry
theres 15 rubber
rubber is spawned by the puppets doing their focus tree
wary sparrow
or if you hate puppets ofc
im part roleplayer
minmaxing is trash
i like good borders
atomic carbon
puppets are honestly ass cuz ill puppet germany or smth and 5 years later they have like 10 divisions like what happened to ur power
remote quarry
well never expect the ai to be able to do anythig
wary sparrow
well never expect the ai to be able to do anythig
they do some funny stuff
buoyant heath
puppets are honestly ass cuz ill puppet germany or smth and 5 years later they h...
me after demiliterizing my puppets, taking their resources and their factories and wondering why they do nothing:
wary sparrow
atomic carbon
me after demiliterizing my puppets, taking their resources and their factories a...
lmao 😭
wary sparrow
like italy beat france alone
toxic cypress
god i love facist uk games
buoyant heath
like italy beat france alone
how
wary sparrow
funky save im working on
buoyant heath
god i love facist uk games
I hate it everything declares independence after i conquer it TWICE
total garbage
atomic carbon
is mussolini in hoi4 lowkey a hear me out like yes i will do all the work for him
toxic cypress
I hate it everything declares independence after i conquer it TWICE
just always release canada as a little puppet
wary sparrow
they even took kergulen
toxic cypress
and after u annex it again u can form pan america
and just annex it from autonomy since u been lowering it the whole time
atomic carbon
they banished france to only french india
erm actually thats free france
buoyant heath
and after u annex it again u can form pan america
i kept having india declare independence
I dont wanna annex india 😭
atomic carbon
is the new dlc worth buying?
buoyant heath
no
wary sparrow
is the new dlc worth buying?
i mean if you are willing to spend 30 bucks i thought japan was fun
chinas hell but like
its china
ofc its hell
atomic carbon
😭 is it only reworked china and japan
buoyant heath
😭 is it only reworked china and japan
no. you get the philippines too!
wary sparrow
😭 is it only reworked china and japan
and op philipines
atomic carbon
no. you get the philippines too!
oh yea.. id love to play them
buoyant heath
release puppets
i turned them into puppet in peace conference cuz i dont wanna annex
toxic cypress
i turned them into puppet in peace conference cuz i dont wanna annex
bro u get non core bonuses
india is a gold mine
buoyant heath
let me do my larping
wary sparrow
let me do my larping
larp est tres bon
buoyant heath
i dont need some lame bonuses in single player
atomic carbon
lowkey i got an infinite gameplay glitch
buoyant heath
lowkey i got an infinite gameplay glitch
play germany
toxic cypress
why would u let the indians go
toxic cypress
having puppets
😭 then dont play facist
facist isnt the puppet route
go democratic or commie
buoyant heath
i dont care
toxic cypress
if u want puppets
atomic carbon
lowkey i got an infinite gameplay glitch
just do a world conquest then release everything and i mean EVERYTHING and do ANOTHER world conquest then repeat
buoyant heath
i will make puppets as any country i please
toxic cypress
i dont care
alr brah
remote quarry
to quite the opposite only fascist nations should ever consider puppeting as an option
buoyant heath
alr im leaving bye
remote quarry
since their puppet type is good
toxic cypress
mmmm ummers
toxic cypress
to quite the opposite only fascist nations should ever consider puppeting as an ...
u forget this is facist uk
u can just annex anything
and be fine
as facist uk
facist uk is the strongest path in the gamee
atomic carbon
mmmm ummers
this.. seems kinda broken
only for a year tho so ig it balances out with the civil war
toxic cypress
only country u shld puppet as uk
is canada
when u can core 3 continents
u dont need puppets
atomic carbon
only country u shld puppet as uk
why should you puppet canada?
dawn mango
2008 was closer to the fall of the soviet union than to today
toxic cypress
why should you puppet canada?
pan america
if u puppet canada u can make canada north america dominion
and if u annex it u can core it
wary sparrow
chat how is italy about to reform rome💀
toxic cypress
and u core north america
atomic carbon
ohhhh thsts crazy
atomic carbon
cant u core every state as anarchist spain(whos playing snarchist spain tho)
toxic cypress
u used to be able to get the region of south africa and all of oceania
but thats over
warped flint
toxic cypress
cant u core every state as anarchist spain(whos playing snarchist spain tho)
yeah with 100 years
warped flint
the ai didnt leave me in a good situation
toxic cypress
its possible but not feasible
atomic carbon
u used to be able to get the region of south africa and all of oceania
crazy honestly
toxic cypress
the uk is op cause u can get like 500mil easily
wary sparrow
did you try holding the river at kyiv?
atomic carbon
democratic sweden world conquest when?
warped flint
did you try holding the river at kyiv?
I attempted to but the romanians encircled like 30 of my divisons that were trying to go there
Btw this is me trying to save the ai
toxic cypress
crazy honestly
also uk can TECHNICALLY core the entire world
but thats impossible technically
atomic carbon
also uk can TECHNICALLY core the entire world
how?
toxic cypress
how?
u can get all french cores and imperial fed max
which is almost the entire world
its alot of technically
atomic carbon
damn so its the most powerful nation?
toxic cypress
france can get all spanish cores
spain can get all portugese cores
on and on again
u combine this all its basically everything except some parts of asia
toxic cypress
use the anarcho spain?
yes
but the other one
is spanish empire
that ones easier
more possible
wary sparrow
nah
toxic cypress
does that work
yes
wary sparrow
they do focuses at wrong times
wary sparrow
would have to be player driven
toxic cypress
if u get lucky enough
there is the method
of u annex stuff release to play
do that
annex the other thing
repeat
atomic carbon
kinda pmo how people who paid for dlcs added to the base game dont get compensated in any way
toxic cypress
till u can line it all up
leaden wraith
now i can run hoi4 console commands outside of the game, that means i can code a bot for others to run console commands in my game anywhere (discord, twitch, youtube, etc)
toxic cypress
thats why its technically all
toxic cypress
would have to be player driven
i meaaaan
its TECHNICALLY possible for a reason
its like the monkey type writer meme
remote quarry
now i can run hoi4 console commands outside of the game, that means i can code a...
does it actually get into the game's code
oh i see call stack analyzer
xd
wary sparrow
ngl my fallback and chill country is both italy and germany
you get so much land for free
lilac glen
Is convoy raiding + strategic bombing against the UK overkill? Lol
wary sparrow
and they are easy to win as
toxic cypress
ngl my fallback and chill country is both italy and germany
i think poland and uk is the shit
leaden wraith
does it actually get into the game's code
yea, right into the game's memory, and then it finds a slow enough function to hook into, because the previous trampoline one i hooked into was being called 30-70 thousand times a second, now the worst part of it was not the cpu usage, its the memory leak i could not fix, in fact its still not fixed, but the fact that its only called 70 times a second now instead of 1000 times faster is way better and negligible
wary sparrow
they are all centered around the commenwealth
wary sparrow
nah wojtek is peak
wary sparrow
romanov is wojtek
oh
toxic cypress
romanov is required for wojtk
toxic cypress
i havent played poland in so long
everytime i wanna do big world conquer for fun i go poland or uk
wary sparrow
and jan mayen
toxic cypress
uk is super op for good reason
wary sparrow
everytime i wanna do big world conquer for fun i go poland or uk
i go germany or italy
they are just peaceful
toxic cypress
i think papacy is overrated
its super op
45% non core max
is insane
if u minmax the focus tree
45% non core
literally peak
wary sparrow
if you dont mass assault the soviets you shouldnt have manpower problems
plus the color is trash
daring geyser
disable bba and release the papal states, play as it with generic focus tree 🙏
wary sparrow
i love green italy
daring geyser
then youll have some challenge
toxic cypress
if you dont mass assault the soviets you shouldnt have manpower problems
if u join japan u get south china with 45% non core u can forget about manpower
wary sparrow
disable bba and release the papal states, play as it with generic focus tree 🙏
boring ah game
wary sparrow
i only ever larp
toxic cypress
ur not running out with 20mil manpower
wary sparrow
i dont make ugly ah borders
warped flint
THE FASCIST PIGS ARE STOPPED! THE REVOLUTION WILL MARCH WEST AND LIBERATE THE GERMAN WORKERS
remote quarry
yea, right into the game's memory, and then it finds a slow enough function to h...
this is super interesting
wow
toxic cypress
THE FASCIST PIGS ARE STOPPED! THE REVOLUTION WILL MARCH WEST AND LIBERATE THE GE...
march east?
remote quarry
wonder what else you could do with it
toxic cypress
lmao
daring geyser
if u join japan u get south china with 45% non core u can forget about manpower
i remember before resistance and compliance were things im p sure a valid strategy was to just declare war on any chinese warlords
toxic cypress
soviets so op
daring geyser
before LAR youd get a lot of manpower for free
warped flint
also how did u lose
I picked up the AI game
toxic cypress
if u civ greed u can build the greatest wall of earth
daring geyser
before LAR youd get a lot of manpower for free
as any nation
warped flint
I picked up the AI game
When they were getting decimated by germany
So I uh sorta was getting destroyed at first cause of that
toxic cypress
i remember before resistance and compliance were things im p sure a valid strate...
i really like how op italy is
africa is a free manpower gold mine
colonial police + 45% non core
plus 10% recruitable pops
daring geyser
tbf every nation in this game is hella op against the ai if you play them right 😭
the ai of hoi4 is pathetically weak
toxic cypress
u literally get more manpower than if u cored em
toxic cypress
tbf every nation in this game is hella op against the ai if you play them right ...
nah bro what u on about
wary sparrow
tbf every nation in this game is hella op against the ai if you play them right ...
playing tannu tuva be like
toxic cypress
u cant convince me liberia is fun
toxic cypress
aint nobody ever has said liberia was fun
wary sparrow
every nation that isnt like albania
at least albania has A event
toxic cypress
at least albania has *A* event
albania can get more cores
wary sparrow
oh wait
toxic cypress
liberia cant
leaden wraith
this is super interesting
wary sparrow
poland
toxic cypress
liberia is so cooked
wary sparrow
albania can get more cores
only thru being italys little guy
wary sparrow
me waiting for 30 dollar liberia focus tree
viscid stirrup
THE FASCIST PIGS ARE STOPPED! THE REVOLUTION WILL MARCH WEST AND LIBERATE THE GE...
ideological fanaticism...
toxic cypress
me waiting for 30 dollar liberia focus tree
40 dollas u mean
daring geyser
ur never beating france as liberia
buddy there are people who did pre focus tree mengkukuo world conquest 🙏 and luxembourg world conquests are a thing
the ai in this game is absurdly exploitable
viscid stirrup
buddy there are people who did pre focus tree mengkukuo world conquest 🙏 and lu...
tank only luxembourg world conquest...
toxic cypress
buddy there are people who did pre focus tree mengkukuo world conquest 🙏 and lu...
bro 💔 but mengoku and luxembourg border more than 1 nation
liberia all u get is france
viscid stirrup
liberia all u get is france
just declare war on france in 38, rack up war participation, annex half of france in 1940
toxic cypress
technically also uk but their in allies anyway
viscid stirrup
then its easy
toxic cypress
and only france actually does shit in africa i feel
toxic cypress
just declare war on france in 38, rack up war participation, annex half of franc...
38 lil too soon
daring geyser
eh the ai usually just doesnt garrison your border during ww2, just turn on nonhist and hope that the UK goes offrails so france is alone and you hop on the war when they get capped
daring geyser
also ppl have managed to abuse the ai so much that they can cap france as algeria by 37
toxic cypress
has anyone ever played historical as a european minor nation and had fun
viscid stirrup
yes
toxic cypress
(not counting regional powers)
daring geyser
has anyone ever played historical as a european minor nation and had fun
yeah, on multiplayer
wraith mauve
Estonia fascist path is so fun
wraith mauve
estonia sucks lithuania ontop
They both fun gng
toxic cypress
bulgaria can be surprisingly fun
bulgaria is erm
shitholefocustree
mod ahh focus tree
daring geyser
bulgaria like 99% of countries is ridiculously overpowered
daring geyser
shitholefocustree
shit focus tree
you can get cores on like most of the balkans
toxic cypress
bulgaria like 99% of countries is ridiculously overpowered
for its era of dlc its pretty op
but now it isnt
daring geyser
it still is
toxic cypress
like its way better than yugoslavia and romania
but it aint beating hungary or austria
daring geyser
you can core yugo greece, alb and parts of romania
daring geyser
it still is
you can get up to 100 factories on historical multiplayer (by 42) where they don't even allow you to get that much land
and for a minor nation on MP that's crazy
like actually insane
toxic cypress
i only played mp in the past
and i almost only played portugal or argentina
cause they r fun
daring geyser
if your lobby allows these nations it usually isn't a good lobby btw, or not even an organized one
toxic cypress
if your lobby allows these nations it usually isn't a good lobby btw, or not eve...
its a 20 people mp
daring geyser
assuming it's a historical lobby
toxic cypress
not everyone gets to play majors
daring geyser
its a 20 people mp
from where?
toxic cypress
from where?
stak
daring geyser
not everyone gets to play majors
they don't even pick the good minors?
ive had games with 30 people
viscid stirrup
when everyone else is playing historical but im not doing focuses at all🗿
daring geyser
ive had games with 30 people
everyone picks the hist minors and coops the majors
daring geyser
also the majors always get sniped
you play nonhist mp?
toxic cypress
you play nonhist mp?
both
warped flint
NO SURRENDER TO THE FASCIST PIGS NO STEP BACK
toxic cypress
more nonhis
historical sucks
not enough random shit
i love it when the axis is germany russia and indonesia
broken pier
Guys is it bad that I often play at Civilian difficulty
daring geyser
nonhist mp is always an incoherent mess with people exploiting everything they can, if the average iq of the server is bigger than room temperature
toxic cypress
Guys is it bad that I often play at Civilian difficulty
i play at the medium all the time
broken pier
i play at the medium all the time
Regular?
daring geyser
nonhist mp is always an incoherent mess with people exploiting everything they c...
hist mp is the closest youll actually have to a fair game
toxic cypress
nonhist mp is always an incoherent mess with people exploiting everything they c...
i love playing non hisst with formables enabled
toxic cypress
hist mp is the closest youll actually have to a fair game
u never got to form western rome and eastern rome as greece and portugal wit a buncha randoms b4 and it shows
had a 4 way alliance wit greece italy portugal and mexico and we formed west and eastern rome together
sweet schooner
nonhist as the ccp really hurts
warped flint
THE FASCIST PIGS CONTINUE TO FAIL!
toxic cypress
nonhist as the ccp really hurts
its easier
toxic cypress
if japan doesnt intervene u can just eat up warlords and take on china
idk about now since i havent done commie china
daring geyser
u never got to form western rome and eastern rome as greece and portugal wit a b...
no cuz whenever i play nonhist mp it's on my usual server (they only do nonhist once in never), where people play good
like 99% of the nonhist matches can be shortened to "someone rushes imperial federation, bullies whole lobby
india does elephants bplan build and the game becomes aids"
sweet schooner
its easier
its easy till manchuria decides to declare war on all of china and all of the warlords decide to join the comintern or allies
toxic cypress
no cuz whenever i play nonhist mp it's on my usual server (they only do nonhist ...
we have mods enabled for rp rules so u cant rush wars unfairly
sweet schooner
everything immediately around you is fodder though
toxic cypress
so if ur a major pre 1940 u can just eat up everyone
like if ur germany in 1938 u cant just bum rush netherlands
daring geyser
we have mods enabled for rp rules so u cant rush wars unfairly
tho the UK can get to be literally the most powerful nation on earth without declaring a single war
if they simply go nonhist for imperial fed rush
toxic cypress
tho the UK can get to be literally the most powerful nation on earth without dec...
yeah but most mp games no one teams wit the uk
i did 1 uk game
only gxc allied wit me
we died together
warped flint
COWARDS!! COWARDS!!! HOW DARE YOU LET THE GERMANS BREAK THROUGH!!!
toxic cypress
if ur wondering japan germany france together
daring geyser
yeah but most mp games no one teams wit the uk
it usually doesnt matter cuz you can get like 700 factories and just kill everyone usually, that's mostly what happens unless players rush you before you scale
toxic cypress
cooked from the go
toxic cypress
it usually doesnt matter cuz you can get like 700 factories and just kill everyo...
u cant rush imperial fed very well cause
if someone plays ur puppet
u cant declare
and very often people will
when i did it india was a random guy who wasnt loyal
toxic cypress
imperial fed doesnt core india 🙏
yeah but to form it they can jump in
also the most common is canada
people keep picking canada
and often times usa player intervenes
daring geyser
just b them out of canada though
toxic cypress
ur thinking everyone just gon let u form the op ahh formabl for free
everyone will pull u down if u play a op major
daring geyser
ur thinking everyone just gon let u form the op ahh formabl for free
that's usually what happens in every single nonhist mp game i play 😭
toxic cypress
its so cancer to play uk
daring geyser
and i dont play in random lobbies
toxic cypress
when everyone of ur puppet
is a unloyal person
who u cant invade cause of rules
and if u do invadee
people gon jump in
daring geyser
idk why would you subject to playing a nonhist mp game where you cant control your own minors as the uk tho
toxic cypress
idk why would you subject to playing a nonhist mp game where you cant control yo...
it is the way it is
i usually do just play minors doe so
daring geyser
nonhist mp games will always end in an op formable or a mega faction bullying one guy if ppl play smart
viscid stirrup
COWARDS!! COWARDS!!! HOW DARE YOU LET THE GERMANS BREAK THROUGH!!!
bro youre the one whos unskilled. you have only 5 divisions per tile
toxic cypress
idk what majors think
viscid stirrup
at most
warped flint
bro youre the one whos unskilled. you have only 5 divisions per tile
bro
context
I am saving the ai
toxic cypress
nonhist mp games will always end in an op formable or a mega faction bullying on...
depends on the game and mods
if they have formable mods
warped flint
I am saving the ai in the 1939 start date
toxic cypress
its more equal
toxic cypress
its harder to dominate as op formables when everyonee has some god formable
daring geyser
then it sounds like you play a really bloated mod 😭
toxic cypress
then it sounds like you play a really bloated mod 😭
i dont have the mod set anymore
cause i stop playing
after i got packed
sweet schooner
you commit dishonor in this way, billions must perish thusly
toxic cypress
by india
warped flint
If I was doing 1936 start date with not even doing this I can hold the germans at the border no issue
toxic cypress
commie india bro
warped flint
with maxx buffed germany to
daring geyser
india is broken on nonhist mp
daring geyser
elephants india is one of the major reasons nonhist mp is cancer
toxic cypress
i was in soviets helping a ally indians arrived ggs
we all died
entire armored div
encircle
viscid stirrup
I am saving the ai in the 1939 start date
lil vro even 39 start date is easy
viscid stirrup
u need to build civs until 40
warped flint
lil vro even 39 start date is easy
are you not reading
Your acting like I am just doing 1939 start date
THIS IS THE AIS GAME UNTILL LIKE MID 41
warped flint
I CAN DO SHIT WITH ALL THE GARBAGE THEY DID
daring geyser
instantly
just play historical mp on a decent server
it's so much better
no elephants india, no megafactions, no broken ahh formables
toxic cypress
we rarely get mega faction
daring geyser
games where factions lose because of poor gameplan and actually not achieving what they should have
toxic cypress
cause of rules
its like
depending on year and number of majors
u only can have a few inside
like most ive been in was 2 majors
daring geyser
it really depends on who are the majors tho
warped flint
Casualties
toxic cypress
it really depends on who are the majors tho
true butttt
honestly whichever side has china
they prolly win
daring geyser
if you have germany which managed to cap france with italy and they control continental europe then unless the other fac is imperial fed with usa and sovs then the other side is cooked
toxic cypress
china is so op as 2nd major
warped flint
daring geyser
wait is japan in your server not able to do sino jap if china is a player
toxic cypress
wait is japan in your server not able to do sino jap if china is a player
🤷♂️
daring geyser
sino japanese war
toxic cypress
i havent played in awhile but ive seen quite a feew japan china alliances
if 2 good friends get china and japan its usually quite op
big chinese puppet isnt a major
so u get china japan and another major
really op
daring geyser
i mean is japan not allowed to attack china player in that server
before a certain date
toxic cypress
i mean is japan not allowed to attack china player in that server
that ones allowed i think
some exceptions
there is a google doc
for rules
i cannot remembeer
daring geyser
that ones allowed i think
damn then they should do it everytime
toxic cypress
its been 1 year since i took part in a real game
daring geyser
china should NOT be playable
toxic cypress
china should NOT be playable
bro china used to be funny
daring geyser
for the same reasons as austria and czechia usually not being playable unless germany allows it